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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I just wanted to give a four warning

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Speaker 1: to this week's episode of Horrible Decisions. It is like

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Speaker 1: none other that you have listened to before. We will

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Speaker 1: not be discussing kinks this week, nor will we be

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Speaker 1: discussing really freaky kicky ship um. In fact, as many

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Speaker 1: of you know, Weezy and I have been going through

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Speaker 1: been so open with our listeners about every step of

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Speaker 1: our lives, we decided let's not hide back from the truth.

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Speaker 1: So we actually sat with a therapist and kind of

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Speaker 1: worked out our issues with each other. We kind of

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Speaker 1: preach every episode the importance of communication, and communication has

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Speaker 1: not been one of the strong points between Weezy and I,

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Speaker 1: and so during this episode you will listen to a

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Speaker 1: lot of emotions. Um, there was tears, there was yelling.

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Speaker 1: This may be a difficult one to get through, but

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Speaker 1: I did want to let you know that we did

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Speaker 1: come out on top. Weezy and I have actually got

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Speaker 1: to our differences and made up and Horrible Decisions will continue,

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Speaker 1: So if you are ready, please buckle up and enjoy

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Speaker 1: this week's episode. Hey guys, um, welcome to yet another

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Speaker 1: episode of horrible decisions and as you guys know, UM,

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Speaker 1: we have been going through, UM, quite some turmoil over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. We might not know, UM,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people know. I think UM. There's been

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Speaker 1: other podcasts that have spoken on us as a duo

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Speaker 1: in this podcast. UM. There's also been quite some ster

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Speaker 1: in the social media around between Instagram and Twitter. UM.

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Speaker 1: We're very UM open. As you guys know, this has

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Speaker 1: been a podcast where we've opened up, UM about a

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Speaker 1: you guys sent some tension between us. UM. So with

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Speaker 1: what's been transpiring over the last two weeks, we did

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Speaker 1: I do want to say before we start this episode

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Speaker 1: that we are not going anywhere. Hopefully, UM. We are

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Speaker 1: want to continue doing that. UM. But unfortunately, before we

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Speaker 1: get to keep doing that, UM, there are some things

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Speaker 1: we decided since we are so open um with our

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Speaker 1: very intimate details within our life that we open it

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Speaker 1: have on Instagram live and our tweets and everything else,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. Um. I want to let

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Speaker 1: been something that we did. I do want to say

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Speaker 1: that I think that because me and you have talked

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Speaker 1: I'm only here because, like I said, you you want this,

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Speaker 1: but I really don't feel like it's any always been

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Speaker 1: as business at all. I'm appreciative that you're here, but

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Speaker 1: I feel I take therapy very serious, and to me,

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Speaker 1: this is a free therapy. And I'm more excited because

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Speaker 1: you're female, excuse me, a woman and black. But I

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Speaker 1: just think that I don't really care what anyone has

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Speaker 1: and something that's actually modeled, because from what I gather

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Speaker 1: there is so much conflict and others can learn from it.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to dig too deeply. I am here

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Speaker 1: for literally just another fifty seven minutes. Sure, So before

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Speaker 1: you know. I don't want to see a king behind you,

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Speaker 1: this is too personal. I didn't want it to be

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Speaker 1: because I didn't want that. For many I would have

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Speaker 1: It's not that serious, and this makes it. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: egos get into it when Mike's and other people are around. Well,

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Speaker 1: can we dispel with that that concept? I think that

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Speaker 1: you know the difference between arrogance and confidence. Arrogance is

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Speaker 1: what I perceive is going on here because it is

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Speaker 1: holy truthful with each other or your audience. However, there

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Speaker 1: don't know who that person, I don't know whatever it

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Speaker 1: and rather than one person calling the other, it gets

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Speaker 1: think that what you two have is a beautiful thing. However,

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Speaker 1: say that the problem that I have is the lack

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Speaker 1: I think that's the umbrella for everything. Okay, So can

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Speaker 1: we see say is the perceived lack of respect and

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Speaker 1: It's not perceived and it's been something. We talked about

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Speaker 1: one sentence, so please tell me, weezy, what in one

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Speaker 1: she's telling me that I don't respect her. She's like,

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Speaker 1: We're not doing that. All of it's from here and

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Speaker 1: I want you to know that I am going to

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Speaker 1: I hold you in high regard. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: because I gotta be honest with you. It was tortures

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Speaker 1: for me to listen to that only because this podcast

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Speaker 1: as someone who is a feminist, for her to be

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00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: in a group of men where they're insinuating that's fine,

428
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: that that I've fucked for our video, and for the

429
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: narrative to also be brought to another podcast that we

430
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: landed on loudspeaker because of who she may or may

431
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: not have fucked. As a woman who has worked hard

432
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: for this brand and who has not slept her way

433
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: to get anything and has busted her ass, I genuinely

434
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: felt disrespected. From a business standpoint, me and Weezy are

435
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: not friends, and that's fine. So the respect that I'm

436
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: talking about doesn't have to be from a personal friendship level,

437
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: but as your business partner. To laugh in a room

438
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: of people making that joke and to not stop that,

439
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: I felt like it was detrimental to me as a

440
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: person who's trying to build her brand and detrimental to

441
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: horrible decisions. Okay, so then you're you're you are contradicting yourself.

442
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: You're saying, on the one hand, you don't care on

443
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: a personal level, it's just business. But you're saying that

444
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: it does affect you on personal level. It affects me

445
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: on it affects me personally in my own brand. That's

446
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying me. I would like I would like

447
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: for you to own the fact that it does affect

448
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: you personally, because when people speak about us in a

449
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: disparaging manner, it's hurtful. Yes, yes, okay, so forget you too,

450
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: being BFF or whatever the terminology is. You go way back,

451
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: and so there's a bit of loyalty that is owed

452
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: to that history, and you don't feel as though that's

453
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: being honored. No, And I, given what I've heard, is

454
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: that you have some unresolved issues anger issues towards her,

455
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: and so you are more apt to allow those disparaging

456
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: comments to be made. I will say that yes or no,

457
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: but okay, fine, no, but yes absolutely. I feel like

458
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: the respect was me not entertaining it. And if I

459
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: was in a room privately with no not miked uff

460
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: with cameras, I wouldn't have This is the thing I

461
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: feel like if Mandy was in that room without if

462
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: guys were talking about me, she would join in with

463
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: that stuffs up, not miked up. This is how Let

464
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: me just get just just get let me let me

465
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: get this out. No, no no, no, no no. I would

466
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: never talk about Mandy without without phones, without cameras. I

467
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: would Their respect I gave her that day was the same.

468
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I would give you a private doing what you're doing.

469
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: It's called a rationalization. You're making an excuse for your behavior.

470
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: Right now you're talking. I still own that. I don't

471
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: feel like you deserved me to do anything else, not

472
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: the person you've been to me. Let me finish. You're

473
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: rationalizing your behavior by coming up with the hypothetical it

474
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's fine. What she does in my face,

475
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: then there's no rationality there. What she's done in my face?

476
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: What you do? You do? What you do? What you do?

477
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: With going on these podcasts, it's like shopping all over

478
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: the room. And you're not just shopping all over the room,

479
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: you're shopping all over your brand the podcasts, Yes you do.

480
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: How did I shoot on our brand? When she went

481
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: on talking all the about every single person, we didn't,

482
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: I said, I could not say you right now because

483
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: of the angel way finger that I felt to me,

484
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: I said, and the way that the way that I

485
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: know we speak and clearly you like this is. We

486
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: tried this on Sunday, which, by the way, was the

487
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: first time you called me since Thursday. Okay since Thursday,

488
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: I called you every day since day. I called you.

489
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: I asked, can I talk to you? Can I talk

490
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: to you? I called you on the phone on top

491
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: now you text stop talking now, so no, stop stop.

492
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: That is unnecessary. That is unnecessary. Excuse me. I didn't

493
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: go you until no, no, no, no, no stop stop.

494
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: You each want to be the queen of nothing. I

495
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to be over. I don't want to argue.

496
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Well then, well then you need to pause. You need

497
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: to be more mindful, and you need to take ownership

498
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: because you speak, in my observation, without thinking. You let

499
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: words come out of your mouth that contradict previous words,

500
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: and you're not You don't take accountability. I'm not saying

501
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: the accountability I need to take for what I did

502
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: I grant? What do? What did I do? What is

503
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: the accountability that everybody wants me to take? I should

504
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: have debt the joke, yes, and you should have also

505
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: owned with Mandy the fact that you're pissed from the

506
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: past and that I said that I was very really

507
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: trying to be honest in the moment, and now I

508
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: feel like your honesty is only half honest, how because

509
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: you're not speaking truthfully by saying situation in front of

510
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: saying that you would defend your girl, your partner, but

511
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: at the same time, you're okay when people disrespect her

512
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: because you have previous booth. See, here's the thing. I

513
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: don't know to ever disrespect and that's what I feel like.

514
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: I didn't know what's happening. I didn't feel like I

515
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: did that, and I still know. What I'm saying to

516
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: you and you're not listening is that you need to

517
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: think before you speak. You have a habit of just

518
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: defending yourself as though your life depended on it. So

519
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm humble enough to say what I'm wrong, and I

520
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: can understand again you're not. You have to pause because

521
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: you're not taking most of what I'm saying in because

522
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: you need to respond right away to defend yourself because

523
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: you need to be right and you're not always right.

524
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: And that's okay. I don't think. It's not about being right.

525
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: I just don't want it to be misconstrued. Okay, so

526
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: if you give pause for a second, allow yourself to

527
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: digest it, maybe the words that you say will not

528
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: be misconstrued. Okay, Well, what do you want me to speak?

529
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I want? I want, I want. This is an exercise

530
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: and your ability to just have some verbal chill, which

531
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: you don't have. And that's what I meant by you're

532
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: going on these other podcasts shipping all over the room.

533
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: It's a it's a clinical and not so clinical term,

534
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: which is that you're making a mess everywhere you go.

535
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: You create chaos. What other podcasts you're talking about that

536
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: moment when the prank was played, That and Van Show

537
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and if you have I asked Van if Mandy wanted

538
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: that cut out, to take it out, I'd asked him

539
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: if you discussed this, I didn't want to do that.

540
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: But this, this is the thing, This is a thing.

541
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: It didn't even need to be edited because it shouldn't

542
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: have been said as a professional, as a person who's

543
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: trying protect your brand and have some sense of loyalty

544
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: to your girl from back in the day, whether or

545
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: not you currently like her. You don't even answer the question.

546
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: You don't entertain it. You could ask me a million questions.

547
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: You can ask me a million questions. I can understand

548
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: that the onus is on me whether or not I

549
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: want to answer it. Okay, I will. I will agree

550
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: with you on that I could have dead it that

551
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: so by doing but I didn't want to. And that's

552
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: where the nastiness comes out. But I'll tell you why

553
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like it was because I said nothing

554
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: bad about Mandy. I wished her nothing but good. I said,

555
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: I wanted us to stay together. I said, we're stronger

556
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: together about what I did to her. You you, you're

557
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: constantly undermining any kind of positive regard that you want

558
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: to express to her on Van Show just now with

559
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: your words. I said to you, if you could not

560
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: have said it, would you have edited it? And you

561
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: said yes, And and you said, well no, I wouldn't

562
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: know because not that I was saying yes, I'm agreeing

563
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: with you that yes, I could have debd it. I

564
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: could have, but did I want to know because I

565
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: wanted people to know that I didn't have ill feelings

566
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: towards her. Mandy had been on live every night talking

567
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: about me going on Instagram. So I wanted people to

568
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: know that I didn't harbor those emotions for her. Fun people, person,

569
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I can't say people were here. I don't want to

570
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: be here. I'd rather be with you in private. Me

571
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: excuse me? Fuck people. You don't owe them an explanation.

572
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: You don't owe them an apology, and you don't know

573
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: if I don't know them an explanation, why are we here?

574
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: You owe it to her, And I wanted her to

575
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: hear me say that on a public platform. Excuse me.

576
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: The public platform is not someone else's podcast. It's right.

577
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: It was in the moment. It was a question, it's

578
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: not you want to. That's why I'm going back to

579
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: your ego being bigger than you can actually contain. Right now,

580
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: you need to be more thoughtful and meditative as opposed

581
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: to speaking quickly. Okay, can I so before we because

582
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: I've been real quiet. I know and I know you're

583
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna be in the hot seat soon. That's fine. What

584
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I need for you to do is to apologize to

585
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: her directly for what can I be honest? And that's

586
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: why I don't know. No, I don't want an apology

587
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: because I'll be honest with you. I don't. I'm sorry

588
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: you were hurt, but I'm not. I don't want that's

589
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: what I'm sorry for it? Then don't. I don't want.

590
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to give an apology. Wheezy. Let me

591
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: ask you a question. How many close friends do you

592
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: have in your life? And don't tell me the you

593
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: know the people that who are her cast and a

594
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: close first that person, no, be real with me. Someone

595
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: who is your writer die you call them when you're

596
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: feeling fucked up. My mom is one. Four Your mom

597
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: doesn't count. Okay, so three and you want to know

598
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: how they felt about this what happened? Absolutely not. I

599
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: just I don't care about what their thoughts are about

600
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: this interaction. I care about how it is that you

601
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: interact with them when there's conflict, not like I'm interacting

602
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: with many. I didn't ask you that when I don't

603
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: really have conflict with close friends because we're really communicative. Um,

604
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: we call each other a lot anytime there's an issue.

605
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: We don't really hold water with each other to make

606
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: sure that it's not spilled, and we have long length

607
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: conversations about our feelings. Okay, so how long have you

608
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: known these three people, one for twelve years, the other

609
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: for five five years, the other two for five years.

610
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: And so how is it that you can't utilize those

611
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: same communication skills with Mandy because she doesn't give them

612
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: to me? And I feel no, no, no no. I

613
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: asked you that you see what you do? You're so tricky.

614
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I would I would charge you double what i'd usually

615
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: pay because you're you just switch her out. I'm not

616
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: trying to switch it. I'm being honest with you. That's

617
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: how I feel. They don't. We don't talk to each

618
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: other like me, like Mandy talks to me. Why I

619
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: don't excuse me. What you're doing again is you're constantly

620
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: deflecting and making it about Mandy as opposed to you.

621
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: Just ask me, why don't I do it with her?

622
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: I said, why don't you do it with her? I

623
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: didn't say, what does she do? Because I'm giving the

624
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: same energy that she's giving me. My friends are very

625
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: sounds very lame, all right, That's what it is. My

626
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: friends are speak Do you take any responsibility for the

627
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: fact that that was one of the friends from five

628
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: years is a therapist as well? I don't like it's relevant.

629
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: My point My point is that the way in which

630
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: you just responded was so quick and immature. She doesn't

631
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: do it to me. What do we in middle school?

632
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you again talk about it from

633
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: your own person. It's not me trying to be immature.

634
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: If it's If it makes me immature, then I will

635
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: take that. I can't give Mandy that same communicative the

636
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: skills you're talking about, because I feel like when I

637
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: talked to her it turns into this. So why am

638
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: I going to talk to her like I talked to

639
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: my other friends. I've tried to get those long length

640
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: texts and be nice, asked for conversations, and they don't work.

641
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: So you feel like there's no reciprocity. Yes, you are

642
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: entitled to your feelings, Mandy. You can shake your head no,

643
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: but you can't. But you cannot take away from her

644
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: subjective feelings, just like you don't want her to do

645
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: the same for you, which is okay, that was probably

646
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: a better I couldn't get that out, but that's that's

647
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: what it is. If I do it, I feel like

648
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't get it back. Yes, it's not reciprocated. Um,

649
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: Mandy has even there was one conversation, and I don't

650
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: know if you know what I'm talking about. If you

651
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: can remember, Mandy was angry about something I said, and

652
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: I told her, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to

653
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: do this. Blah blah blah. She hung up the phone

654
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: on me. She called me back and she said, you

655
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: know what, I shouldn't have hung up on you. I

656
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: was like, I was really sorry. She's like, I think

657
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: when you're what you say is phony. I think the

658
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: things you're doing is phony. She's like, and I shouldn't

659
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: have done that. And I really, in the moment when

660
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: I apologized, her meant it. And I appreciated that so

661
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: much because I think that she assumes when I speak

662
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: to her this way, it's phony. But what would have

663
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: been phony is me saying sorry. Because I do still

664
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: feel like I can't understand, which is why I asked

665
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: Mandy to speak first, because I want to greet it. Sweetie,

666
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: you don't want to get it. That's that's for the thing,

667
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: that's for the therapist. You don't want to get it.

668
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I think that you why do you think I don't

669
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: want to get to think that you've dug a hole

670
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: for yourself so much and you have so much bravada

671
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: to defend, and that you are not allowing yourself. Are

672
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: you looking at me like that? She's not looking at you,

673
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: she's looking at the cry whatever. It's so hard to

674
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: look at you. You're talking about fighting me like stop, okay,

675
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: stops later the victim, imlay victim. She's talking to me.

676
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? Mandy? You wear the whole charade.

677
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: You're the reason we're sitting here, sitting here, I have

678
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: not I have not. Fucking God, bro, Okay, I can't.

679
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: I can't do this. Yes you can and you will.

680
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: All you do is ship on me, retweet all these

681
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: people that agree with you. It's so fucking cheesy. You

682
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: talking about Nicki Minaj. You are Nicki Minaj. Bro, you

683
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: dug this hole. You cried on the sea, you talk

684
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: about you. I can't believe you're doing this. Every time

685
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: you get mad, you talked about doing another show. That's

686
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: the only reason I said, get your own. You always

687
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: do it and wait wait wait wait, and so that's

688
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: woa wia woa. So but that's your issue, isn't it

689
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: that God that's so mad at me? I'm not using

690
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: you away. You fucking always talked about how you want

691
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: to do something else than do it. Don't be hearing me.

692
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: If you don't want to wheezy will be wheezy. So

693
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: the fact that she keeps threatening you, I'm not. I

694
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: don't threaten to leave. I say I want to create

695
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: another show, and I said that all the okay, I

696
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: want to do it. Stop stop stop stop when you're

697
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: mad you do that. No, I'm not. I came to

698
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: a king month way even look me in the face

699
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: the fucking day you told me that. Are you serious?

700
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: You were like you said, I hate working with her,

701
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I hate doing this. Your hilarious side is that is

702
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: that a verific can We didn't chifiable. You didn't know

703
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: that this is verifiable. We bring a king and that

704
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: and I can't have Alex not you do this to me?

705
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: All he not my best friend? This was okay, so

706
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: step a king, okay, would not stay here aside. So

707
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: I've been speaking to Yes, I've been speaking to multiple

708
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: pull of my friends as well as the network about

709
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: doing another show. Okay, we do that before we started,

710
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: way everone way before we started okay, so wait wait

711
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: wait wayforea okay, so this is this is another. Another

712
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: reason why there's so much tension and conflict is because

713
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: you feel betrayed. I can wait wait no, no, let

714
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: me finish. This is a this is a clinical interpretation. Okay,

715
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: you feel betrayed Wheezy that she's going to go on

716
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: her own and quite frankly, I heard you say on

717
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: the Fish on this podcast that either one of you

718
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: could be gone. It's about the brand. The brand, okay,

719
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: so stop stops up. So the reality is I don't

720
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: care what you all say. It's the brand is nothing

721
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: without the two of you. I agree with. That's magic.

722
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: It's for either of us if I left it, she said,

723
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: audition to replace me? So stop why not? It would

724
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: be fine love for horrible decisions, okay, okay, talking about you,

725
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave, You're okay, so okay we can so

726
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: I can't think of what I'm gonna do it, but

727
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: you can sit here and talk about that. Why we

728
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: can't talk? No, no, no, that's where it gets where.

729
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: And I can't plan. B when you were saying you

730
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: wanted to leave and talk, when you just called me

731
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: Sunday to sit here and say I called you and

732
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: I did call. Stop stop stop stop. Can you too,

733
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: just stop? You're so afraid that one is gonna leave

734
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: the other. God, can't you just admit that ship? You're

735
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: giving me a fucking headache? How does anyone anyone come

736
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: in here and enjoy themselves? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical.

737
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Both of you are like hurt sisters. That's the thing.

738
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: You're like sisters, and sisters fight all the time. You

739
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: cannot cannot cope with the fact that both of you

740
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: have talents that can go outside of this place, and

741
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: you're fearful that this, the core where you started, is

742
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna go to ship. You're afraid to be left. You're

743
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: afraid to be left. You keep saying, no, I disagree

744
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: with you. I disagree with you. So I haven't been

745
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: able to say anything about hey, how I felt at

746
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: all um and furthermore, when I spoke on bringing the show,

747
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: and this is where I also feel like there's an

748
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: agenda to make me okay, okay, okay. I won't go

749
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that route. I won't go that route on this post.

750
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm thinking, I'm gonna think this. This is

751
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: your time right now. It just needs you to listen.

752
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna be so mindful of your words. I will,

753
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: I will, I will do not be accusatory. No, that's fine,

754
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. UM, speak about your feelings. I don't want

755
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: to hear my news. Okay, So if we go back

756
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: to the feelings I think I shared on on how

757
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: I felt UM when I heard the joke which has

758
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: spared a lot of this. Okay, can I brought I

759
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: brought that to you. Can we can we fast forward

760
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: and we fast forward to that. UM. I shared my

761
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: feelings with both Wheezy and Alex in a text while

762
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: it was going on. I was called while this joke

763
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: was going on. UM. I was relayed by Andrew that hey,

764
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: we're saying a prank that you fucked Alex. Okay, can

765
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: you stop with that. I'm hearing you. I get it.

766
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: Your feelings were hurt. Yes, I gotta ask you, do

767
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: you think it is wise to lash out on social media?

768
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not asking you about what Wheezy does.

769
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: I'm asking you about this live snapchat. These tweets. Tell

770
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: me what was your intention? Answer the question? The intention

771
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: of me going on to social media, which the Twitter,

772
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: which is where I spewed UM, how I felt was

773
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: too I would say, essentially to clear my name. At

774
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: this point, this was UM about four or five o'clock

775
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, so the show had been aired and

776
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: my mentions on social media, my Instagram, Alex's name was

777
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: added up and down. Oh you smashed that you're using

778
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: that blue choo on that Alex tapped that all through

779
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: my comments. So when I went onto Twitter, I want

780
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: to clear my name and let it be known. At

781
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: A I did not funk that man B I did

782
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: definitely did not do it for for video time. And thirdly,

783
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was disrespectful that people who are a

784
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: part of the Horrible Decisions brand sat there and laughed

785
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: and let it and let it go on. That That's

786
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: what I did with social media, Okay, So can you

787
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: admit that it wasn't just about clearing your name. It

788
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: was also to say why I felt the way I felt.

789
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: So it wasn't only about clearing my name. The other

790
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: agenda was The other agenda was to sit here and

791
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: share how I did not think it was a joke.

792
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: I need for you to speak more truthfully. That's one

793
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: layer underneath that. What was your spewing, as you said

794
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: on social media about UM if are we going back

795
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: to are we going into the lives now or still

796
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Because that's all it was. And then me

797
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: and Alex went back and forth. I'm asking you, uh

798
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: you said social media. There's two points that she's brought up.

799
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: The Twitter, which is where I brought up, and then

800
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: the Instagram where I sat here and allegedly said I

801
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: would be her ass, which was not what I said.

802
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: I sat here and said because they asked have me

803
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: in her talk? Why don't you go to Wheezy? So

804
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: my response to that was at this point, she had

805
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: already responded with the funk you we don't like each

806
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: other anyway to get your own show. Okay, it's in

807
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: the texts. Stop stop stop stop? What was your agenda?

808
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Speak plainly? So my agenda was to sit here and

809
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: share why I spewed what I did. No, you're not

810
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: answering my question. Was it to say fuck you? Too easy?

811
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Was it was my agenda to say fuck you to Weezy? No?

812
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't. You can sit here and not think I

813
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: was truthful. But at this point I'm very upset with

814
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: how people who are a part of my brand just

815
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: treated me treated me on a public platform, and so

816
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: what my agenda was to do was to sit here

817
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: and actually show those emotions and sit here and say

818
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: that yes I wasn't, and to sit here and clear

819
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: my name and UM say no. So so say it

820
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: was retaliatory. Yeah, no, I don't. I would not say

821
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: it was retalent tory. She went on. She went on

822
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: to apply, we're not talking about her. We're not talking

823
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: about her, we don't. We don't have to talk about her.

824
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: That that show gets a quarter million listens. I gotta

825
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: tell you. That's fine if you don't care. But it wasn't.

826
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: But tell me it was any bit of what you

827
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: put out there to her her feelings to herr feelings. No,

828
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: she knows exactly how the funk I feel about her.

829
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: So then why didn't you text it to me? Why

830
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: did you do it? On? I absolutely texted to I

831
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: sent her to I have. I have screenshots here which

832
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: I can't pull out. That's fine. I did bring them

833
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: because I sat here and shared my thoughts about how

834
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: I did not think it was a joke. And her

835
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: response to me was no. Her response to me was,

836
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: let me finished. Can I finished? I let you talk.

837
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: Her response to me was it didn't even feel real.

838
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: Um and but okay, so wait wait wait, not only

839
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: did it not feel real, she said between Joe Button

840
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: and flagrant going on the Brilliant Idiots feed, this is

841
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: great week week and it was because to me, To me,

842
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: the fact that content and us getting numbers was weighed

843
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: above how I would have tell you that here it would?

844
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: I know? How about this? You never heard him? Maybe

845
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know you would be a podcast? So how

846
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: about you knew I would be mad because you asked Andrews.

847
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: I did, but I didn't know you were going to react.

848
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: And I did ask him to take it out. But

849
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: you still okay? So eazy? Didn't you know that she would?

850
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: She had a negative response that she her feelings would

851
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: be her Yeah, and he took things out. I asked

852
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: him to know, Yes he did. Don't tell me that

853
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: you are in the room. Yes he did. Let me

854
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: tell you something. If you had that much power about

855
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: what it is that he edits out? No, I don't

856
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: have that much power stop it. He wouldn't take the

857
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: stop it. I couldn't even get him to take out

858
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: something I said incriminating a guy that I past. So

859
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: how about this? I asked him to take out things

860
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: I thought would be hurt and he would not remove

861
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: the rest of it. He said, I'd have to take

862
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: out the old episode and it was going forward. Would

863
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: you do the same? There is no when Why did

864
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: she when she well, it's because can you say I

865
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: thought Mandy would be a jokingly funny like fuck y'all,

866
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I never thought she would do that

867
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: for cameras. It wasn't it. No, can I say? Can

868
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: I say to me? This is the analysis talk about

869
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: west on our show? We talk about fine. Everything we

870
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: talking about on my way and me fucking married men

871
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: has nothing to do. You talked about sucking for things.

872
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: That's fine. I will don't here if that's why I

873
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: didn't think she would be mad not letting me finish,

874
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: and why this is why I've sat here and gave

875
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: me I gave you the floor for good damn near

876
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: fucking twenty five minutes and didn't say a thing. You know,

877
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: this is what happens when this is why we cannot

878
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: talk and I tell her, she she listens to respond,

879
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: She doesn't listen to listen. She literally said she wanted

880
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: to call me to understand how she felt, why I

881
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: felt the way I felt about everything when you finished,

882
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: let me finish. As soon as I picked up her

883
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: call on Sunday, This air Thursday. This is our first

884
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: time talking. We spoke on Sunday three four days later,

885
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: but before I could get a word, she said, listen,

886
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: before you talk, I need to let you know. And

887
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: she goes on for about four minutes. So you did

888
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: not call to understand how I felt or why I

889
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: took everything away as you called me to clear clear

890
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: And I get right, I get it, I get it,

891
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: get it, weren't wrong. And I O, well that you

892
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: not wanting to know about my feelings. Bro no and

893
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: and and wheezy when you say, well, it's gonna be

894
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: a good week, our numbers are gonna be up. And

895
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: that's that's that also undermines the relationship professional and personal.

896
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: That's how I took it, because you're more concerned. And

897
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: actually I don't think you're more concerned with I think

898
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: you have difficulty owning when you suck up. You have

899
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: difficulty owning when you hurt people. You have difficulty owning

900
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: that your communication skills are not great and can be

901
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you Okay, so myr communications so

902
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: many are poor. Yeah, okay. So when you call her,

903
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: rather than to deal with the hard stuff her feelings,

904
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: what you say is to get around it, oh girl,

905
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: or nobody's gonna be up. No, no, no, what she's

906
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: saying when I called her, when I talked about me? Okay,

907
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: So that was just that was reaction. So how about this,

908
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: How about the fact that you didn't do what you

909
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: know needed to be done, Lawrence, an apology because when

910
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: you called her up, you didn't ask about her feelings.

911
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: You made it about you one thousands stop. Sorry, I

912
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: don't think that hard. I'm not trying to think hard

913
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 1: for you to take ownership and apologize for that. Don't

914
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: tell me you don't have any empathy about that. I'm

915
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: not going to not apologize for that. Say, okay, I

916
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: apologize for whoa whoa. Open your eyes m hm, open

917
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: your eyes and look at her, because she's actually making

918
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: a genuine apology. I apologize for that call because I

919
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: know when I called you, in my mind, I was

920
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: reading what you were thinking happened, what you saying that

921
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I was disrespecting you, And all I wanted to do

922
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: is let you know that's not what I meant. I

923
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: wanted you to know that. I asked Andrew to take

924
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: things out because I thought that would know and it

925
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: was wrong what I did. I should have asked you,

926
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: and I did that because I felt bade wheezy. You

927
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: talked too fast, you talked too much. Go back to

928
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: what you just said. I was sorry for that, absolutely,

929
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for that. You do not apologize to me,

930
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: because that would have never happened to me. Apologize to her.

931
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for calling you and talking about me first.

932
00:49:53,600 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Let us stick. It took minutes to get here. I

933
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: will tell you this, if I were running Ellison, you

934
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: both be gone. I can't. I would not entertain the shenanigans,

935
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: the buffoonery. It's unnecessary. There are other people out in there,

936
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: out in the world who are just as talented as you.

937
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: It is too much of a fucking headache to listen

938
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: to this because you cannot take ownership for something so simple.

939
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: This is about you talk about female empowerment. You can't

940
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: even look each other in the face and apologize for

941
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: something that you know you have done wrong. And it's

942
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: it's okay to be wrong. I'm not saying that I'm

943
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: not wrong, but you have such a hard time owning it,

944
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: and it would be so much easier if you could

945
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: just do that. I can't tell you I'm sorry. That's it.

946
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: That's it. It's not that I'm not saying that it's wrong,

947
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: but I felt like I would have been empathetic. If

948
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: that's all, we can't go on. I can't do it now,

949
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: not after what I've heard you say, so I don't

950
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: want an apologize to that you told me. I don't

951
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: see you can't even stick with something good for two

952
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: fucking minutes. How is that? This is really hard for me?

953
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: I know it's really hard for you because you're asking

954
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: because I've done so much apologizing. Are you fucking kidding me? All?

955
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: I dud what's easy? Wheezy, you get dead. You have

956
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: a hard time apologizing. It's like you always have a

957
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: problem with me, and that's why I'm feeling Mandy. You're

958
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: like me. I need you to chew with the faces

959
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: you Wheezy. Let me tell you something. You're not the

960
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: bad guy, even though it feels that way so frustrating

961
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: with this ship. I understand that, Mandy, I feel like

962
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: you think I hate you and I'm like, I feel

963
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: so bad because I don't hate you, and I really

964
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: feel sorry that you're feeling like this, but like, no, no, no,

965
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: don't cut it, don't but it don't. I can't not

966
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: but it because I know then you have to stop yourself.

967
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: You have to stop yourself. I'm just so frustrated. Okay,

968
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: then own that I don't want this to happen, but like, okay,

969
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: I just if you want to do your own thing,

970
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: because you can't do this. But you said it, but

971
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: you said it, but you've said it. I think I

972
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: have not. She has done a lot of I heard

973
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: you say no, no, no, and that stop. So I'm

974
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna allow us to go over maybe two seconds. I

975
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: need for you to take in the fact that she

976
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: has finally apologized. I didn't think it would take this way.

977
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: I didn't crying because I feel so bad that you

978
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: really feel like I just hate you, and the fact

979
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: that tears don't be unkind, I'm not. Yes, we spoke

980
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: last nights for this to be an agenda right now

981
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: to make me the victim or me the villain. I'm

982
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: feeling okay because now I will speak, Can I speak?

983
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: And and and no, you can't because I won't stay

984
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: here and I'm not digging a hole. I'm not sitting

985
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: here and say, who can we just pause for a second? Yes,

986
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: we can pause. When's the last time you saw her cry?

987
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: She cars all the time? What the funk? I cry

988
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: all the time? You fucking cry on Instagram? You're really

989
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: doing this. I'm crying because I feel Baddy, You're hurt

990
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: and I can't believe you don't know. Okay, Well you're

991
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: saying I don't crying for me. Empty minutes into this,

992
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: you called me like crying me because I really believe

993
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: that you really think I don't respect you. Okay, So

994
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: then tell her you do and you will, of course.

995
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: I okay, So stop, Mandy, And so going forward, are

996
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: you willing to make a commitment to demonstrate that every

997
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: single time you to interact, absolutely single time you to

998
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: have a show, every single time you tweet something, be

999
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: about it? Absolutely? Absolutely, of course I do. I will

1000
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: tell you I'm sorry if you felt like my reaction

1001
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: to you wasn't enough, but I was hurting that you

1002
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: did it on I'm okay, that's it was reactionary. I'm

1003
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: just trying to explain why I that's okay. I'm not

1004
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: trying to not take the ship, so listen, listen. I'm

1005
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: not trying to not take ownership like Mandy. Listen to

1006
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: what she said, She's trying to take ownership. Yeah, it's

1007
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: not that, of course. I don't want to sit here

1008
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: and make you think that it's fuck you. I said

1009
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: that to you because I was angry at your reaction, right,

1010
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: just like you said you did it because you were angry.

1011
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: But that's why I did that, And I'm sorry if

1012
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: it hurt your feelings. And I'm crying because I can't

1013
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: believe we're here. So I don't want to be on

1014
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: this fucking podcast doing this with you. I would rather

1015
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: be sitting in private, spending any fucking dollar I could

1016
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: to make it work. And I feel like there are

1017
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: things that are said on the mic. Okay, no, no,

1018
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: and that's fine, No, but I know this is true

1019
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: because what being said about me and what happened I

1020
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: about me is a lie. That I sat here, Me

1021
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: wanting to do another show, is not me wanting to

1022
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: leave poor decisions, me sitting here wanting to wanting to

1023
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: do Like I've sat here and we had a conversation

1024
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: and that's fine, and I'm not self righteous. But me

1025
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: sitting here knowing that she's sitting here and crying, I

1026
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: get that. But I told her last night, and I

1027
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: told you last night, And I'll sit here and I'll

1028
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: sit here and tell you I have I have UM,

1029
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: I had my ears done. I'm sorry, I speak loud.

1030
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: I have UM surgerin both my ears, have tubes in

1031
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: both of my ears, so I speak loud. UM. But

1032
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: I will sit here and say, we spoke last night,

1033
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: and I told you. No, I told you, Wheezy, my

1034
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: issues with you have been dealing with this podcast, and

1035
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: there are under Let me finish, there are underlying issues

1036
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: that you have with me. No, I know this, Let

1037
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: me finish. You brought it up to me last night.

1038
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: You brought it up to me during episode. Okay, so wait, wait, wait,

1039
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: you brought up I don't give a funk about ship

1040
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: before a start to show you only you know because

1041
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: she's rying right now on the show. It's fun. I

1042
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: didn't say that I have to spoke last night. We

1043
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: spoke last night. Bro, Yes, you know what I think.

1044
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: I think you can't tolerate the fact that she might

1045
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: actually care about She doesn't we we spoke last night,

1046
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: and she wanted to make sure that certain things were

1047
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: not brought up because she still feels ways about things that, Yes,

1048
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: you put me in a book. I didn't want to

1049
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: talk about it because you're talking shitty for that we weren't.

1050
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: And that's where I didn't want to bring up. I

1051
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to say that it doesn't here. You weren't us.

1052
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: We were not. That's why I want to bring up

1053
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: this bullshit because see that's what I'm saying. You can't

1054
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: sit here and tell me you feel one way on

1055
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: a mic and you're sitting here crying because you want

1056
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: to understand me when we ring, because I'm angry that

1057
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: we're here and I've tried she sat here and called.

1058
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: She hasn't cared about how I felt when I'm the

1059
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: one who called you. I want to called you last week.

1060
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: You've I don't want to ask to do there again.

1061
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't care about your reciprocity. How about this. If

1062
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: we cannot come to some kind of resolution within the

1063
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: next five minutes and is it five minutes or four

1064
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: minutes and seven seconds, then just throwing to tell what

1065
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: do you want for me to feel better? Like that's

1066
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: what I need to That's why I'm crying because when

1067
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I said sorry to you, you all you said is

1068
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't care. So what do you want me to do?

1069
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: What do you want for me? That's why I'm crying

1070
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: because I feel like I will never get anywhere with you,

1071
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm looking at the end because

1072
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here really telling you I'm sorry. You don't

1073
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: look me in the eye. You turn your face for

1074
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: me when I'm sorry, and tears come out because I'm

1075
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: seeing that it's over because you just don't. You don't

1076
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: believe me. Okay, so stop stop, Okay you don't. So

1077
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: why do we do it? What three things you need

1078
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: from her going forward in order for this relationship to continue?

1079
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: Because she's putting it in your lap. Now. You're the

1080
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: one who has this laundry list, your receipts as they

1081
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: call it, of things that she's how she's wrong you,

1082
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: and you want to stand behind that and you want

1083
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: to be the person who was right. So can we

1084
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: shed that for now and come up with three concrete

1085
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: things that you need from her in order for this

1086
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: relationship to be maintained, And please don't be accusatory. I

1087
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: don't have to be UM. For one, it would one

1088
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: thousand percent be the communication. UM, can you be more specific?

1089
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: So the communication as far as we've sat here in

1090
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: this room and when I talked before, I can sit

1091
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: here and say what I mean, she's responding to respond,

1092
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: So she's responding to what she's she's responding to respond

1093
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: or as I'm sorry, she's listening to respond, she's not

1094
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: listening to listen. And I genuinely feel over the last

1095
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: year and a half with this business, whether it's from ideas,

1096
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: whether it's from disagreements that we've had off air on air,

1097
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: I genuinely feel like she listens to me to respond.

1098
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: Do you think no, no, no, no, no, Mandy let

1099
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: her finish. And no, that's not why she doesn't believe

1100
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: that you cried. So what you're saying, I'm gonna reframe

1101
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: it is you want to be heard. That is why

1102
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: you yell so loudly in addition to drink. But right,

1103
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: you want to be heard by her. UM, just say okay,

1104
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: I'll say yes because you want to, but there's no

1105
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: way to. So you are really kind of so I

1106
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: imagine I kind of know what what what wheezy feels

1107
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to be kind to you. I'm I'm

1108
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: being thoughtful. I'm saying, I'm paraphrasing it that you want

1109
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: to be heard, and then you try to obliterate what

1110
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: I say. I actually can you might have something there?

1111
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Holy cow, I do I do get that? And I

1112
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: will say, in part it probably is from my bias

1113
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: because I don't believe a lot of things that she

1114
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: says to me when she does try to be kind.

1115
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: So I will say that that is something that I

1116
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: possibly do do and I will admit to that. Okay.

1117
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: So it seems to me that there is a lack

1118
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: of trust. Okay, So trust needs to be real built,

1119
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: which is difficult. But I have a feeling that trust

1120
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: overall is an issue in your life, or a lack

1121
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: of thereof. I would disagree with that, Okay. I have

1122
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: very long standing relationships with with friends, with family with

1123
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: like I would disagree with that. Okay. You can have

1124
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: very loyal people. Are you trusting of many? I'm okay?

1125
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 1: Maybe not? I mean, God, do you think I have I? Okay?

1126
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: I get that. Okay, So number one, yes, you want

1127
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: to be heard? What's number two? Um? Number two and

1128
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: it's something that has happened. Well, well we'll know whether long.

1129
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: If you said, what what I need from her in

1130
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: order to make this work? Okay? So can we we

1131
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: can we do this instead of telling me look at

1132
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: wheezy and tell out wheezy wheezy. This is something that

1133
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I've said before. I'm sorry, UM, I don't feel like,

1134
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: what do you need? Don't I need you to meet

1135
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: me halfway with this show? We have a partnership agreement

1136
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: and you do you have not so that's fine, all right,

1137
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: meet you halfway. What's the third thing? Okay? She said,

1138
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: we have fine menes. That's all I meant. I wasn't

1139
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: trying to demonstrate. I just felt like there was a

1140
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: lot to unpack because you and I can I can

1141
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: I be the okay? So I said I was gonna

1142
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: go over a couple of minutes, be present. So you said,

1143
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: meeting you halfway with the partnership, can you be just

1144
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more specific? I don't know. If this

1145
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: is something that you want to air out, that's fine.

1146
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: I will sit here and be honest. Do we want

1147
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: to go No, no, no, no, no no, no, there's

1148
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: not a it's not a problem I genuinely feel and

1149
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: with speaking to her with this partner, I need her

1150
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: to meet me fifty halfway in terms of the business. Okay,

1151
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: when this show, When you say the business of the show,

1152
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: can you give me an example in Layman's terms that

1153
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: I I genuinely feel as though she's great on this show.

1154
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: You're you're great on this show and what you bring

1155
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: to the show. No, I'm not saying, but I think

1156
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: you're great on this show as far as UM, what

1157
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: you say, your opinion, UM, the comedy that you bring

1158
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: to this show. UM, what I would need from you

1159
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: is more on the back end, and it's what I've

1160
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: told you multiple times. I feel like, as far as

1161
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I won't bring up that I've brought it

1162
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: up multiple times. I genuinely feel like, in my heart

1163
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: you have your talent. As far as the leg work

1164
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: to this show, can you say it in a less

1165
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: host I'm sorry, As far as the leg work to

1166
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: this show, I genuinely don't feel like you've put in

1167
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: even a quarter w Why would you say to the

1168
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: vice journalists that you appreciate me and that you're lucky

1169
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: to have someone that will pick up when you fall.

1170
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: You said that to him, and I remember you say

1171
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: that to him, and so wait now you rename Okay,

1172
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: so so what did I know the terms of our agreement,

1173
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: which is for you to say what you needed? And

1174
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: so no, you said, but she doesn't do You don't

1175
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: say what you need? You need for her to be

1176
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: more proactive and involved. Yes, okay, so clearly that is

1177
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: your four people say Forte is actually Ford. You know,

1178
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: teach her spell it out. That's what sisterhood and business

1179
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: partnerships are about. If if she's not doing it, perhaps

1180
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: it's because she doesn't think she has a skill, or

1181
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: maybe she doesn't think she has a time. You speak

1182
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: to her in a kind way to get it done.

1183
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: I did. I haven't. Can I say an example of it?

1184
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 1: Because I don't think you know you're you're you're sitting

1185
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: in there huffing and puffing. But it's very much true.

1186
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: So you at first you don't succeed. Try try again.

1187
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: Do you have any children? No? I don't want any. Okay,

1188
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: do you have any children? Minus sitting outside? Do you

1189
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: know how many times I have to repeat myself and

1190
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: lead by example and guide and show. Sometimes our peers

1191
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: require that you assume, because you're quite defensive and a perfectionists,

1192
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: that when people don't do their share it's because they

1193
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: are being dismissive of you. Perhaps there's another reason, and

1194
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: if you open your heart, not to sound cliche, but

1195
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: open your heart a bit more and try to explore it,

1196
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: maybe you'll get to the core as opposed to being accusatory. Okay,

1197
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: what's number three? Sorry? I in order for this to go,

1198
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: I need you too deep in your heart, truthfully and

1199
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: honestly the baggage that you're holding. No, that's that's accusatory,

1200
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: but it's no story. That's accusatory. I need for you

1201
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: to say what you need, not what is a deficit,

1202
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: a perceived deficit. Talk about what you need. Make it simple. Well,

1203
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: then I'll say I need respect, okay, because you know what,

1204
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: even with all of this fluff and all the she's

1205
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: you're a little runkin bumpkin. You both are. You're so sensitive.

1206
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: You think, but I think that you You don't even

1207
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: believe me, so I don't. Then why do you even ask? Yeah?

1208
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: Can I say something? So? Why am I here? You're

1209
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: just wasting money? You did it again, You did it

1210
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: again every time she makes an attempt. And I know

1211
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: past behavior informs present behavior perception. But you've got to

1212
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: give it a try. If you want even a modicum

1213
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: of this to work out, you've got to try. You

1214
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: just asked me to bag. You've got to have a

1215
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: sense of faith. Yes, yes, how hard is it for

1216
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: you to be soft? I this is the problem. When

1217
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: I sit here and actually do hurt, or actually do

1218
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: show my emotions, then I get, well, you're not even

1219
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: the imo. Ho. I didn't think he was gonna be mad.

1220
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: As a human being, I do hurt. I do get

1221
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: my emotions like bother So it bothers me that because

1222
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't see here and show emotions or or talk

1223
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: about the men that I love, or I don't have

1224
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 1: these emotions for men that people just assume that she's

1225
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: gonna get over it. She's gonna laugh it off, she's

1226
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: not gonna be hurt. And I think that's bullshit because

1227
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: I do do I see here and show my emotions

1228
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: as much as others know. But when I see here

1229
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: and and receive something in private and then in front

1230
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: of other people, I'm getting a different thing. Yes, I

1231
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: become frustrated. Yes, I can't take it in as genuine

1232
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: because behind closed doors and within our personal conversations, I'm

1233
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: over talked to or hung up on. We both hung

1234
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: up on each other. It goes to levels to where

1235
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: we're just trying to talk over each other and there

1236
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: is no resolution. So when I come into a place

1237
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: or I stay here and my feelings are actually hurt,

1238
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: for that to not be acknowledged, for for me to

1239
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: be told you're not getting an apology for me, and

1240
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: for me to get a long thread, Oh so now

1241
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: you want to be emotional, You're just overreacting, And it's like, yes,

1242
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm not the one that shows my emotions on this podcast,

1243
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: people bring it up all the time. I'm able to

1244
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: have sex without tying emotions to it, but I do

1245
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: still want a certain level of respect from people. And

1246
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: when my things are hurt, specifically from people that I

1247
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: do business with, specifically from people that I helped put

1248
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: money into their pockets, that we make money together, from

1249
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: someone that I'm building something strong with, I absolutely want

1250
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: them to know that I am still human. And if

1251
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to respond the way in a way that

1252
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: you knew I would respond, because you said you knew

1253
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: I would be upset, did you know, did you know

1254
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: I would be this upset? No, but the fact, but

1255
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: the fact that when I showed my emotions you came

1256
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: to me and was like, well, I think reacting. Okay,

1257
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: I did get it, but but you tribute to the problem. See,

1258
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: because I don't show my emotions I am I'm very

1259
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: cold and I don't show my emotions with a lot

1260
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: of people. My mom was that way. This is this

1261
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: is how I am. No, no, no, no, it is

1262
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: how you are. But it doesn't have to be the way.

1263
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to you don't always have to be

1264
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: that way. And what you're doing is you do yourself

1265
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: a great disservice by presenting yourself as unbreakable. I'll agree

1266
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: to that. Yes, that was my mom. And so this one,

1267
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: this one reezy who has a heart, take time taking

1268
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: responsibility for being hurtful. She's going to hide behind that. Oh,

1269
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: Mandy's tough. So you need to share and be more open.

1270
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: You're asking her to be more open. You need to

1271
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: do the same. And I don't know, maybe this whole

1272
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: podcast you two be in these like brazenly open sexually

1273
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: whatever it's it, it does you a disservice because it

1274
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: doesn't allow you to be who you truly are, and

1275
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: maybe that's something you two need to build upon with

1276
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: the podcast, is you can be brazen. You can have

1277
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: this open sexual energy and connect with people and stop

1278
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: bullshitting yourselves and saying that there's no emotion behind it,

1279
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: because that's not true. So how do you feel about

1280
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: the fact that she is crying in front of you?

1281
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't, of course. I mean, honestly, I'm surprised. I

1282
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: thought I would be the one and I did to cry.

1283
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: I I'm crying. Look at it, you crying. I feel

1284
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: so bad. You know. I feel really bad that you

1285
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: feel like this, okay, and no, no, I feel bad

1286
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: that you really think that. I feel badly that you

1287
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: think I hurt you. Yes, I feel badly that you

1288
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 1: think I hurt you, and I think I said. I

1289
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: feel badly that I did hurt you because you have done.

1290
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 1: Of course, I feel badly that I did hurt you.

1291
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: I feel badly that you know, you said because I'm

1292
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: not emotional, you knew I would react that way. No,

1293
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: I didn't. I feel badly that I responded with you

1294
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: that way. Sometimes I do have to be softer too,

1295
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: but I think I've just felt maybe I don't know

1296
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: what the word is. Maybe I didn't feel remorse because

1297
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: I was already harboring feelings for things that I feel

1298
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: like I went through on the show. For the most part,

1299
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: on the show, I feel like I'm the one who's

1300
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: super emotional. So when you reacted that way and went crazy, yes,

1301
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: I was like fuck you because I felt like you

1302
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: said suck me. I just the one thing that I

1303
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: could ever say that I want from you is just

1304
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: to call me first. And I feel like the reason

1305
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: I've been so upset with you is because when we talk,

1306
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: you bring up other people. A King said, my friends say,

1307
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: Van says, Mal says, I don't care. I want to

1308
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: know what you think. Are you taking in everything she's saying.

1309
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: I gotta say it appears quite genuine to me. Can

1310
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: you accept her apology? And I need for you to

1311
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: tap into the softer party yourself, not the cold mother

1312
01:11:48,640 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: pushing people away. This is your opportunity. There's a lot

1313
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: going on in my head right now. Why would I

1314
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: want to come on here and cry in front of

1315
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: you and all these people on there. I didn't mean it. Okay, stop, Mandy,

1316
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: It's hard it's hard, but I need for you to

1317
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: embrace the fact that Wheezy is actually being genuine and caring.

1318
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: I can acknowledge that, Okay, can you say it to her,

1319
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: not to me? I don't. I can see here and

1320
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: say I'm acknowledging what you're saying. And I'm going to

1321
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: stop there because I know that I'm not able to

1322
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: say it, but right which is so I want. I

1323
01:12:54,760 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: want to say, I do appreciate you acknowledging a us

1324
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: getting to where we are right now, because I feel

1325
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: like it's been a huge detriment to how we have

1326
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: been communicating over the last year and a half. We

1327
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: sat here at episode five ready to give in. We've

1328
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: sat here at episodes sixteen, seventeen ready to give it.

1329
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: We've sat here at episode thirty and try and and

1330
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: almost given in. So you sitting here and acknowledging that

1331
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate that and moving forward if this is something

1332
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: to where you can't sit here and look at me

1333
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: as a human being, even if it's someone that you

1334
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: don't like, look at me as that human being, knowing

1335
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: that I have feelings, knowing that I have emotions, and

1336
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: even if we're not friends, those three close friends to you,

1337
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: look at me and when you do things. I just

1338
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: want you to say, with my three best friends, like

1339
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: if I did this to them, because even though we're

1340
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: not friends, even though we're not friends, wheezy, this is

1341
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: this is a business and this is no. No, not

1342
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: only that, I feel like our relation and ship and

1343
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: the things that we go through are much more than

1344
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: a marriage. They're much more than a friendship, so much

1345
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: more than a lot of other types of relationships. Many Mandy,

1346
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: are you going to do the same Yes, yes, yes,

1347
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: because you've told you moving forward, moving moving. You said

1348
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: you're the only person we were in that meeting with Christmas.

1349
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: Yes we weren't. You told me we weren't treat you

1350
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: like this. You're the only thing I absolutely stand by

1351
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: that I had, Mandy, stop stop stop, you see she's

1352
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: throwing me under the bus. I said, you told me

1353
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: you can't do this for me to my face. I

1354
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: literally have one minute. Just did it. You just did it.

1355
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: You had to break through and then you can't touch

1356
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: ate the feel good emotions. You can't. What was said.

1357
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: I need for you to say that going forward, you're

1358
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 1: going to extend to her the same respect that you

1359
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: deserve and want and don't tell me you've always No. No,

1360
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: that's fine, but say, can I sit here and say

1361
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: that there was a misunderstanding and I want that has

1362
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: to be clear before we move forward. I sat here

1363
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: and said that that is something that I'm willing to do.

1364
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: What was misconstrued in what was said was that I

1365
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 1: don't have this energy or interaction or relationship with anyone

1366
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: the way that I do you in my life currently.

1367
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: That is what was said. That's why I treat you

1368
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: this way. I don't treat you a way. We have

1369
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: no way of communication. But we've gotten past that. So

1370
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: that's what I'm telling you that I'm sitting here telling

1371
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: you to your face that I'm willing to do that

1372
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: and I have. But in terms of but stop, I'm

1373
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: willing to do that and I have. Are you willing

1374
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: to work with her as well? Absolutely? Okay, So this

1375
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: guy's falling asleep. I have a headache. I've got to say.

1376
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: This is way past my bedtime mine too. Thank you

1377
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: for coming. Can I shake your hand now? I don't

1378
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: know why you didn't run again, because we tend not to.

1379
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: My therapist is uncomfortable and I hugg her after, so

1380
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: I get it. You go to therapy all the time.

1381
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: Holy cow, does this person listen to your podcast? Actually,

1382
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: I had a therapist. I found a black woman and

1383
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: I'd literally google to African American therapists. And she sent

1384
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 1: me a message and said that, so I had vented

1385
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: about many before about when we had our first argument,

1386
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: what should I do? And she said, after listening to

1387
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: your show, I feel biased and I can't help you anymore.

1388
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: She said that she started listening to our reactions with

1389
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: each other and now she felt like she would take

1390
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: a side because she's heard it instead of just being

1391
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: my therapist. That's very bizarre. It's all fodder. She let

1392
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: me go because she started listening to the show. All right,

1393
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: you each seemed to find someone to talk to. I

1394
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: think that there's a brilliance and the magic that can

1395
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: be developed and maintained if you allow yourselves to be

1396
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: more vulnerable, and you know all the sexual escapades as

1397
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: a clinician, it says to me that there's a fear

1398
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: of that communication vulnerability, especially with each other when we're well, yeah,

1399
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: that well, that's plain. It's not easy to be vulnerable

1400
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: and take ego out of something. When you have a

1401
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: camera and Mike's camera, I don't know, every every week.

1402
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: It's not easy for us to be vulnerable, I think

1403
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: with each other, which is I try, but it's not hard.

1404
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: You try harder because you're you're quite well defended. And

1405
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: it's like you could make my brain just like actually

1406
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: internally combust trying to keep up with you in your verbiage.

1407
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: And I say that because it's indicative of intelligence, and

1408
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: you can be kind of terrifying if one were to

1409
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: be scared. So I'm not gonna ask for a hug,

1410
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: but can you at least give each other handshake? No,

1411
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: of course, Like, okay, that's weird. So how about a hug. Yeah,

1412
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: that's fine. A hug, hug, hug, hug, a long overdue. Well,

1413
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: you guys can instagram miss for real, for real. And

1414
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to be called in again. And I

1415
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: adore the both of you. Thank you, and I need

1416
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: for you to call each other on the phone. No more,

1417
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: no more texting. It's so important. I think that's a

1418
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: good rule. Please, I'm gonna start crying. Yeah, oh this

1419
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: is like my number one rule. Oh god, this is

1420
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: so this is the last thank you? Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1421
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: So rod is gonna give each other hugs. I guess

1422
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: as many of you guys who listened to the show

1423
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: have picked up through the tension and the jabs and

1424
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: the shade that we throw on a weekly basis. Um,

1425
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: this has been a long time coming. Um for everyone

1426
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: who was writing to us saying that the demise of

1427
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: horrible Decisions was to an end and blaming Andrew and

1428
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: blaming guys for getting between us. I want you to

1429
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: guys to know that that has not happened. You know,

1430
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: we should ask for sorry to cut you off. But

1431
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this and you made it towards

1432
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: the end, and if you don't know how they made

1433
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: it to that, I think you can understand that Mean

1434
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: Mandy have been very influenced and I think you'd agree.

1435
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: By when someone writes us something, it's very hard not

1436
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: to respond. I'm feeling better right now. I don't know

1437
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: if you are. I feel like, do you understand that

1438
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: it was hard for me to get the sorry O

1439
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: I did? And um, I really want to say what

1440
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: I didn't think I would get that from you. And

1441
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: so while while I know like the energy with her

1442
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: here and you're not wanting other people in the room

1443
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: and genuinely the last two weeks and what has transpired.

1444
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 1: Not only did I come in here not wanting that apology,

1445
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't want the apology for what

1446
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: happened on Flagrant, but you really acknowledging that I'm sorry.

1447
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: You know I know, but you acknowledging that you know you,

1448
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: you understand now where I'm coming from, and that I

1449
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: am human, and that I was really more hurt, not

1450
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: even with the joke, but everything that transpired after. And yes,

1451
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm cold hearted, Yes I don't show emotions a lot,

1452
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: but you sitting here acknowledging the fact that I did,

1453
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you could have responded differently. I appreciate that.

1454
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: Now I know you and knowing you were upset, I

1455
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: feel like Mandy reacted, and I reacted like Mandy, like I.

1456
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: There are certain ways we should handle it, and actually

1457
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: is exactly how you you actually reacted, exactly how I

1458
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: would have reacted to anything. I didn't overreact. The only

1459
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: reason I called you is because I knew that hurt

1460
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: came from you thinking I didn't defend you, and I

1461
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: thought that if I brought up would happen after that

1462
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: you would know that. I genuinely felt like you would

1463
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: be hurt. I asked him, and I think Andrew not

1464
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: not to shade Andrew, but he started making me feel

1465
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: like you would think it wasn't a big deal, right,

1466
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: I said, Mandy's gonna be pissed? Can I can? I

1467
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: tell you real quick in your face, because but you

1468
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: have known me since I was fourteen fifteen years old,

1469
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: real quick, because I want to throw this out there

1470
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: real quick, because you've said often but you didn't know

1471
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: if it was true or not. My nigga, And I'll

1472
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: stay here and say, because my nigga, you've known me

1473
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: since I was sixteen? Did you see the way I

1474
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: don't give a fun the cameras were on Sarah. I

1475
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: really did thinking in the moment, even my nigga, let's

1476
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: go back to me being sixteen years old. I don't

1477
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you know, god damn well, real quick,

1478
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: I went and let that nigga suck on my titties.

1479
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: So for you to really sit here and say you

1480
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know goddamn well that I had, I

1481
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: would never did you think that when you saw the video?

1482
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: Did you did that? Did you think for a second

1483
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna tell you why. I was already too mad.

1484
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: Andrew was sitting I mean, Alex was sitting right there,

1485
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: and I looked at him like what and then Alex

1486
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: is doing this face like I get it. I get it,

1487
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: it's a joke. But my nigga, I'm talking to you

1488
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: as someone not in podcasting, as someone who's known me

1489
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: since I was sixteen years old. You know, God damn well,

1490
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: I would have never when Alex came to the first

1491
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: episode that we did with Anthony, we both were like, oh,

1492
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: he's cute. I thought maybe it happened. I don't know.

1493
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on in my head.

1494
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: It just felt so real, bro. How many times I

1495
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: talked about my height limit bro, like that nigga, not

1496
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: even six ft chill bro, no, but in real life.

1497
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: And I think that that's why when you came at

1498
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: me like it, didn't know if it was real. I

1499
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: went I went back to us being sixteen years old, wheezy,

1500
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: because you know, a whole bunch of niggas that I

1501
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: have fucked and not now one resembles looks is in

1502
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: the pay grade. Okay, pay grade, My bad my man,

1503
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: my bad. Alex, that's fine, that's fine. I just want

1504
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: to say, that's fine. Alex is really nice. Do you

1505
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: know what I started going through my head? We had

1506
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: argued about things without because we were deciding when we

1507
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: wanted to do a video, do we need this expense

1508
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: to we do this whatever? I was like, maybe this

1509
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: is why she'd be getting so mad at him and

1510
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: be talking to him so spicy because they fucked. You

1511
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: don't understand what I was thinking in my head. That

1512
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: is exactly why it towards the end, because they had

1513
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: me so convinced, I said to him, did you really

1514
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: me any And by the way they thought it was

1515
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: cut off? He said, we have to leave that in there,

1516
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: so it's it's in there. But here's what happened and

1517
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: why I think I. I was surprised at your reaction.

1518
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: When I was sitting with Andrew's like, dude, we gotta

1519
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: take it out. He's like, we would have to cut

1520
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,839
Speaker 1: out the whole episode. Trust me, this is a podcasting

1521
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: for me. This is gonna be great. People gonna click,

1522
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: this is gonna be okay. And you know how Andrew

1523
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: made you. Andrew diffused the situation with you and him,

1524
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: so you can understand how you did it with me.

1525
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: I did feel better, so I thought when I text

1526
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: you and said, Andrew got the gift to gap. Your

1527
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: gift to gap, Andrew got the whole as gift to gap.

1528
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: He when I text you that night and I said, hey,

1529
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: don't worry, this is gonna be okay. It was because

1530
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: it was right after I text I had got off

1531
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: the phone with Andrew, I think, right it when he

1532
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: got out of the car and I was saying we

1533
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't do this, blah blah blah. Um. It made me

1534
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: text you because I said, let me defuse this so

1535
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: she'll feel better. Because what would I think if I

1536
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: was sitting there when I got called twice? People said

1537
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: there was a prince. So I said, let me just

1538
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: make her feel better, right, let me just say this

1539
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: right now. And then when you heard it to have

1540
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: been so upset. I don't know if you would have

1541
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: called me. I know, and I mean I don't want

1542
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: to give any more shine than we have to to

1543
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: that situation. Oh wait, wait, no, I said this to

1544
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: say I don't want you guys to sit here and

1545
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: then listen to this and say who else was wrong?

1546
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: More like I think that that's gonna be worse to

1547
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: continue this conversation, and I want to try to make

1548
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: a commitment. I'm gonna say try because I feel like

1549
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: someone's gonna tell me, oh, well, you hate that bit,

1550
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to reply I really, but we're

1551
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it anyway. I don't want it to keep going.

1552
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is better and and it's good.

1553
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I think. And the only

1554
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: reason I got mad at you and I said that

1555
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 1: everyone thing is because I wanted you to feel like

1556
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: this is good between me and you, not because someone

1557
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: which is which is what I want. So moving forward, UM,

1558
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: please don't sit in talking. No, I mean, even in

1559
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: the comments, they're gonna say what they're gonna say. There's trolls, people,

1560
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: people feel the need to choose between us um and

1561
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: as everyone has reiterated to us, this show could not

1562
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: be this show without the two of us um and

1563
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: so whether you was about the audition, from my role,

1564
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: whether I was going to do anything else, UM, I

1565
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: do just want to reiterate that, more so than anything,

1566
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: what me and Wheezy have been able to bring to

1567
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 1: the culture, to the lives of our listeners, to the couples,

1568
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: to the single people, to the virgins. I think that

1569
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: that means way more to both Wheezy and I. Um.

1570
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: Then I think anything with with anything, it's literally the

1571
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: only reason um. And I've said it multiple times that

1572
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: our listeners and the emails and how we have touched

1573
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,879
Speaker 1: people all over the world because Jesus Christ, it's it's global.

1574
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Is why I stay and why I'm willing to sit

1575
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: here across from I'm not gonna say your government, but

1576
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: Wheezy w TF and and try to to get this

1577
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: this thing going. Um. Also, furthermore, UM, I do want

1578
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: to just give a quick shout out because they're really

1579
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: good friends of mine, Mall Rory and the Joe Button podcast.

1580
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: I listened to that episode before they got their Spotify deal,

1581
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: and Joe sat there and said that they didn't record

1582
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: one week because they yelled in a parking lot because

1583
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: they could not agree creativily. I reached out to other

1584
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: other podcasters too, UM, very very I talked to you

1585
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: as well. UM, this happens, but but you know what,

1586
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: I I liked that people could and even my friends

1587
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: the three closest ones I've talked to everyone was able

1588
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: to be unbiased with me and give me opinions. I

1589
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: had to take my ego out of a lot of

1590
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: things because, like I was saying, your reaction made me

1591
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: want to read. We made me go back and forth.

1592
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: And it's not easy with social media, you know, people

1593
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: saying things to you and getting in your head. And

1594
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad we have those friends that are doing bigger

1595
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: things than us that we can come to. We're lucky

1596
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: for that. And I think I only mentioned everyone because

1597
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't make me feel good when you

1598
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: would say everyone is telling me this is good and

1599
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't leave. I don't want people to have

1600
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,879
Speaker 1: to tell you that. But it's it's also the listeners,

1601
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 1: which is which is why I brought that up, like

1602
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: when when? And I'm not gonna dig into things that

1603
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: I've hated that were said between either of us, but

1604
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I will say that even starting this this podcast, in

1605
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: the very beginning, I was taking seven classes, I was

1606
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: working a lot of hours. I said, weely, I know

1607
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: you want to do this, but in six months, if

1608
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: we ain't getting money, I'm out. And I said that

1609
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: before that, we we were ready before that we weren't

1610
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: bringing in money, work we're She mentioned something about me

1611
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: not wanting you to go, and of course I want

1612
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: you to leave. But when I brought up the other show,

1613
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: I think that the first time you said it to

1614
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: me was when we were feeling heated after that New

1615
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: York Live show. That was the first time you said

1616
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: it to me. So even if you thought about it before,

1617
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: we weren't talking about it. And I only said what

1618
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 1: I said on Van not to make it seem dismissive,

1619
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: but because you are a bigger social media person than me,

1620
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: so I know that you will do more things than me.

1621
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 1: You've talked about wanting to do shows or BT or

1622
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: pilots or whatever, and I want you to know that

1623
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I you being great and you're doing great things doesn't

1624
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 1: hurt anything we do, and I want you to be great.

1625
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't want you to not do your own thing.

1626
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: And I I think when I was angry about it,

1627
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: it was because I felt like you were doing it

1628
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: to say, well, fuck it, maybe I could just kick

1629
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: this to the curb and do something else, because that's

1630
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: you never brought it up to me. Otherwise we were arguing,

1631
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: and then you brought it up like, And that's why

1632
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: when I said I would shout it out always. It's

1633
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: because when you said you were going to leave and

1634
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: then you mentioned another show and people were like, how

1635
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: could she do this? I was like, I would, to

1636
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: the death of me, be like, it wouldn't matter how

1637
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 1: you react to towards me, because people listen for me

1638
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 1: and you and both of us. I want you to win.

1639
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: You you're going to start this other podcast I wanted

1640
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: to do. Really, I want it because this ended so well.

1641
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't want this conversation to keep going the way

1642
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: it's going right now. No, I'm just saying that I

1643
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: want everything you do to be good, and I don't

1644
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 1: want you from listening to that. And I appreciate that

1645
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: I make it in a shitty way because I don't

1646
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: mean it in that way. That's that's the only thing

1647
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: I want to say. I'll take it at face value

1648
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: right now for what you're saying. And I appreciate that.

1649
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: Um again, because I don't I don't want to spiral

1650
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: this into a whole another fucking discussion or debate. UM.

1651
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: But again, whether um Wheezy goes and decides she wants

1652
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: to be creative in her own little space, or whether

1653
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: I want to go into the corner and my own

1654
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: little space and create more. Um. Again, I just want

1655
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: to say that horrible decisions. UM. We'll continue and we'll

1656
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: continue to bring the content, the kinks, UM and the

1657
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: guests that you guys love. So UM, I guess we're

1658
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and wrap that up. This is way

1659
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: longer than it needed to know. If you guys hear

1660
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: an episode, Mandy was in Chicago for a while and

1661
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: traveling a lot this summer. If you hear an episode

1662
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: of Me alone, it was prerecorded. It is not mean

1663
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: we're breaking up. We've just had it sitting there and

1664
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: now everything is blown up. So we've been worried about

1665
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: put it out because we're like, what they're gonna think

1666
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: they'll be episode soon to come where Mandy was out

1667
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: of town, so I recorded it. And if you guys

1668
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: do hear separate episodes ever, please understand that Mandy works

1669
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't even I used to work more

1670
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 1: than more hours in you now I don't well because

1671
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I was taking seven classes and working. It is Thursday,

1672
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm at fifty five hours. It's Thursdays, and I'm supposed

1673
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: to be working Saturday and Sunday though. It's just because

1674
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: we don't want to leave you guys with a day

1675
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: without content. And we've made commitments to do that. Something

1676
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: you complain about, Oh you've prerecorded ship. This is something

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Speaker 1: that we're doing just so every Monday you can still

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Speaker 1: have horrible decisions. We don't want to leave you out.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to be inconsistent. So one day you

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Speaker 1: hear Mandy without me, or you hear me without Mandy,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to trip freak ask why it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Like we don't only podcast most of the podcasts. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we all listen to that's all they do.

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Speaker 1: They're creatives. They don't have to work ninety five. We

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Speaker 1: still do. And so that's why sometimes schedules are conflicting.

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Speaker 1: That's why you can hear solo things. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to clear that up if you hear it soon enough.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna go ahead and UM say,

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Speaker 1: since turn our breaking up Patreon, you can give us

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Speaker 1: spotts a month to mobile bullshit. I guess both say.

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Speaker 1: This has been yet another episode of horrible decisions by