1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Busting Your Welcome to another 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: episode of Busting with the Boys. I am your host 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Will Compton. My co host Heayoluwan. He is in training 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: camp right now. He just had a preseason game. He's 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: got a job on this week's episode of Busting with 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: the Boys. I sit down with my guys, Blake, Lawrence 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: and Audi Koalik. They are founders. They are entrepreneurs of 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: their company Open Doors, which we're gonna dive into. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: They talk. We talk all things n I L, which 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: is name image likeness. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: The reason this is a great episode is because I 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: they're great friends of mine. We banter, we cut back 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and forth. There are mentors of mine, great friends of mine. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Audi Kanalik, he was a kicker. We played on Nebraska together. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: He played in the league for a short period with 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. And by short period, I mean you know, 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I think preseason. Uh with Blake, my boy Blake. He 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: played linebacker in Nebraska with me, with myself and Lavonte, 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: and he had to tired because he had too many concussions. 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: That's not funny. That's not funny. That's just a buses 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: balls all the time. About that but this is a 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: great episode. Before we get into the episode, we need 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: to shout out, PBR. They took care of the boys. 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: Hey they did. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: They not take care of the boys this weekend first 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: class bro, I'm talking hosted the boys. Well, we got 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: to take different, can't. We got to do whatever we wanted. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: We got to see the bulls. We got to be 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: able close with the bulls. We got to shoot camera 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: angles from the shark cage which is out there in 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: We got to shoot when the bulls are taken off. 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: What do they call that, the shotgun the shotgun cage, 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. We got to be here, yeah it 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: sounds that sounds good. We got to be up top 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: the aerial view. But anyway, shout out PBR. Some other 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: house cleaning, not housekeeping, some house cleaning items. New merchandise flags. 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Get your flags ready to be in the stands, hanging 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: in your dorm rooms, hanging in your. 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Main caves, your lady caves. 41 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Because I know we got some Tier one We got 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: some Tier one chicks to watch the boys, dude, But 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: get your new flags, fly them all around the stadiums nationwide. 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: We also have new Hawaiian shirts that you guys have 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: seen a lot of cool stuff new those new row pads. 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: There's like over one hundred left. Get in there, Get in. 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: The store store dot barstool sports dot com and click 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: on brands. You'll see bus with the Boys. Click there 49 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: you'll find all of our merch. But continue to buy 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: our merch. Also, this weekend, Saturday, third preseason game the Boys, 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: we're having our only one and only preseason game, our 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: dress rehearsal. 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: We are throwing a tailgate and watch party at Acme 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Feed and Seed. 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: That is this Saturday, August twenty eighth. 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: The Boys versus the other Boys. 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can Yeah, we can say names. Well, 58 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: I just know we can't advertise with the logos. Yeah, 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the Boys versus the Bears. And so we're gonna be 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: at Acme Feed and Seed. The bus will be parked 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: on Broadway. We will be on the corner First and Broadway. 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: The bus will be on Broadway. So if your listen 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: to this right now, you might not even be going 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: to watch the preseason game, but you might be going 65 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: out downtown to Nashville on Saturday evening. 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There's nobody better than you. 102 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: I've truly been trying to invest though since Come on now. 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear you say it. 104 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: I would say, probably day one, Yeah, hey, let me 105 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: get in, let me get in. 106 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: You would never let me. 107 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: No, I didn't want to take like most of your salary. 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: Well that's probably what it is. Yeah, it probably was. 109 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: You probably felt bad, like at the beginning, did it 110 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: always was it always tough, like not allowing. 111 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: Like close friends and family. 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 4: I don't think it's about not allowing. It's just like 113 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: the timing has to work out the right way. It's 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: like it's not like as a company, you're not just 115 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: always taking on money. There's like periods of time when 116 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: you're taking on money, and then the your major investors 117 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: they have to like they have to be a part 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: of You have to find a lead investor, and then 119 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: it goes through the process. So when someone's like, hey, 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: let me invest, it's like, well, if you if you 121 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: ask the question at the right time, it might actually 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: happen right right. But if you don't, then it's like, hey, 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: I know you're interested, and we're going to come back 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 4: to it when it makes sense. 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Got you, So as we get started, because I'm actually 126 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to enter, do you guys, you know, because 127 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: you guys are like business guys. You guys aren't like 128 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, the superstar athletes where everybody knows who's gonna. 129 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: Be on the bus. 130 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna have to 131 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: sell my soul to get people to come and listen 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: to this podcast, Like, I know you guys aren't gonna 133 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: you guys don't understand right now, but if you click 134 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: the link and listen to the boys, you guys are 135 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot in this episode. 136 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: But we have these are the founders, is it? Are 137 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: you know? 138 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't I know you guys have an ego? Are 139 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: you guys both co founders? Is that what you guys say? 140 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: The founders of Open Doors Blake Lawrence and Audi Kannowik 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: ADDI you are from Bosnia? 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: Bosnia? Originally? Yes, Blake is from Kansas City, Missouri or 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: something like. 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: That, Kansas. And I played with these dudes in college. 145 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: So we were all at Nebraska together in two thousand 146 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: and eight when I was getting recruited. Blake was my 147 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: host on my recruiting trip. And uh so I've known 148 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: these dudes throughout Nebraska. We've done the GPPs, the workouts, 149 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: we've ground together, like I'm having bow on, I'm having 150 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Coach bow On, like we all played for Coach bo. 151 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: And these dudes are like real ass entrepreneurs. You guys 152 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: are running pioneering this whole nil market name image likeness 153 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: in college obviously, people see college for what NCAA. But 154 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys do stuff where open Doors is 155 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: partnered with who, NFL. 156 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: PA, NFL PA, MLBPA, NBPA, WNBPA, NHL, PJ Tour, LBCA, 157 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Team USA. Yeah, the majority of professional sports organizations use 158 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: open Doors in some way. 159 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: And you guys, your platform has essentially been built to 160 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: pioneer this NIL movement that is now happening and throughout 161 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: all the collegiate sports. We're like, I don't know when 162 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: this episode is dropping, but right now we are two 163 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: weeks removed from the announcement of this whole NIL, this 164 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: wild west of athletes being able to you know, get 165 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: sponsored and make money off the field. 166 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: Well, and that's something we always say, and Blake's said 167 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: this time and time again, like NIL is not new 168 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: to sports, and IL is new to college sports right 169 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: as it pertains to student athletes. 170 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: So this has been around for a long time. 171 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: We've been helping athletes, professional athletes monetize their name imaged 172 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: likeness since twenty twelve. So like it's it's in our DNA, 173 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: like foundationally, this is why we built the company. It 174 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: just happens to be that the market shifted in our 175 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: favor and now we get to continue to help even 176 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: more athletes. That what student athletes being involved? 177 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, explain what open doors is. 178 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, So open Doors's most innovative and compliant way that 179 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: athletes can monetize their name. Imagine likeness. So you see 180 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: an athlete promoting a product on Twitter, you see them 181 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: showing up and do an appearance like that whole experience. 182 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: Somebody had to reach out to that athlete, pitch them 183 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: an idea to promote their product, go through the contract negotiations, 184 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: pay the athlete the apthe had to do it, send 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: it out, measure it, sign the agreement, get paid, do 186 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: their taxes, and that whole process is very complicated. Open 187 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: doors is a software that automates all of that. Right, So, 188 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: if a brand or fan goes to open doors dot com, 189 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: they sign up, they'll find out like booking a deal 190 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: with any athlete is as easy as booking a trip 191 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: on Expedia. Right, Like you just you find the athlete. 192 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: There's fifty thousand of them in one place. You say, hey, 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: I want to send Will Compton an opportunity to do 194 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: an appearance for my business. You click Will, You click 195 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: appearance and say all off from ten dollars, because that'd 196 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: be that'd be market for you. Five bucks, yeah, five 197 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: bucks for an hour. 198 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: A lot of my shit's usually free. Like sometimes I 199 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: would text you like, yeah, when the fuck is Nebraska 200 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: gonna pay? 201 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah yeah yeah you're not no, you're not 202 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: pushing big dollars, but make it super easy. Like this 203 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: is you talk about student athletes starting to get paid, 204 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: you know, the student athlete. Let's say about pro athlete endorsements. 205 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: There's about five thousand pro athletes in North America that 206 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: move the needle with like athlete endorsements, right, and now 207 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: that NCAA student athletes are able to make money through endorsements, Like, 208 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: there's now five hundred thousand student athletes in the market. 209 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: So the market got one hundred times bigger two weeks ago, 210 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: and so open doors is getting a ton of ton 211 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: of traffic. Like every student athlete the country is signing 212 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: up for this tool because it's the easiest way for 213 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: them to make money. 214 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: But for allow the rules, Right, when did you guys 215 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: start to realize that because obviously compliance a lot of 216 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: legal shit, Like you guys will know being on the 217 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: business side of everything, But like when when did you 218 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: start to become aware that, Okay, you do this stuff 219 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: for all of like professional athletes and you're making the 220 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: seamless software program where you can go on the app 221 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and you can find the athletes. But when nil started 222 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: to come for college, Like, how did you guys have 223 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: to start to pivot and build your programming for the 224 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: NCAA like the collegiate level, because there's a lot of 225 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: fucking there's a lot of compliance issues. Like you know, 226 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: every coach in America right now is probably having a 227 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: team meeting about distractions and everybody, like you know, Dave 228 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: comes out and talks about barstool athlete in every athlete 229 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: in America essentially wants to throw their ass at barstool 230 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: for a T shirt. You know what I mean, They 231 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: got barstool athlete and anything like it's a wild wild West. 232 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: So what kind of pivot did you have to do 233 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: to start to build and prepare for this all happening 234 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: in college. 235 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: Well, here's like I'll take you back, like the twenty 236 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: thirteen we we had Prince and Ukumara. So we all 237 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: know Prince Prince all around the bus, right, it's one 238 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: of the boys. Yeah, and so Prince was back and 239 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: we had just launched like the very first version of 240 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: open Doors, and he was in our office in Lincoln, Nebraska, 241 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: and we paid him ten dollars to send out a 242 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: tweet like hey just signed out for open doors, right, 243 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: And he was like ten bucks, like he was making 244 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: a thousand dollars a tweet at the time, you know, yeah, 245 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: And so you know he did it, send it out. 246 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: In the very next day, the NFL Players Association called us, right, 247 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: So like the NFLPA, MLBPA, NBPA, like they're watching, they're listening, 248 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 3: Like every single business that any of these you know, 249 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 3: athletes promote, there's they got eyes on it, right. And 250 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: so from that day, like seriously, the second day the 251 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: thing was live, we started to think about how do 252 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: we build compliance and rules, like making sure that if 253 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: an athlete's going to use this thing to make money, 254 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: that they're not going to lose their eligibility, they're not 255 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: going to get in trouble with the union. So like 256 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: we've been doing the compliance thing for a long time. 257 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: It's just it's not sexy, right, But like athletes, for you, 258 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: you just hit a green button, you make money, right, 259 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: But open Doors our job is to make sure that 260 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: you're falling all the rules. 261 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we were championing athletes the entire time. 262 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: I think so, like people like when we look back 263 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: at especially now that nil is hot, it's trendy, everyone's like, hey, 264 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: how did you guys know that this was coming? 265 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: It's like truth be told, Like we didn't. There wasn't 266 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: like this magic time. 267 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: We were sitting there like, hey, the NCA is going 268 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: to change their rules one day and we'll stand a 269 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 4: benefit from that. 270 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: Like that was never the intent. 271 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: I think we knew that if the company is around 272 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: long enough, because at the core we've been always just 273 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 4: trying to help every athlete. 274 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: That's our vision statement. We've said that for like ten 275 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: years now. 276 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: Yea. 277 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: So we're like, if we're around when these rules change, man, 278 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: holy shit, Like we'll actually be able to help every athlete, 279 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: not just professional athletes, not just retired athletes, not just 280 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 4: alumni athletes, but like every athlete in student athletes. And 281 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 4: so we got a letter in the mail it was 282 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: like twenty nineteen, like that summer ish and Blake walks 283 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: up to the office and he's like he printed out right, 284 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: and he puts it on my desk. 285 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: And like, what is this? 286 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: And I look and there's a blue dot in the 287 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: top left corner. It was the NCAA And they're like, hey, uh, 288 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: it's basically like we're we are considering changing the rules 289 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: or the legislation, and we would love to invite you 290 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 4: to be part of the working group because we know 291 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 4: your extensive experience helping professional athletes with nam image likeness 292 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: for the last six years at the time, seven years 293 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: at a time. So they're inviting us to be sort 294 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: of the experts to help them navigate what is coming. 295 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: And when we saw that and blake'sitd in my office, 296 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, things are really going to change now. 297 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: Like it was like the most exciting day because. 298 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: We just when was this? 299 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: When was this like two years ago? Almost of the day. Yeah, 300 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: it was in July. 301 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you were you were in Lincoln and you 302 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: you just literally put I'm like wait, wait, wait, wait, 303 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: what is happening. 304 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: You're probably like, yo, do you fucking see it? Yeah, 305 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: he was. 306 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: Excited because like he's you know, I'll give him credit, 307 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: Blake's a visionary. So literally he he had that and 308 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: it was later that afternoon he comes in and he's 309 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: like here, here's the model, dude, here's how this is 310 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: going to work. 311 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: And I'm like, when did you do this? 312 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: You know? 313 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: And he like canceled all his meetings and he had 314 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: already like you know, he's he's got a freaking whiteboard 315 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: and whatnot. 316 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: But he's like he had already drawn up this. 317 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and like just like because because 318 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: it's we have we had all this institutional knowledge of 319 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: how this should work. And Blake's like, dude, if we 320 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: just do this, this, this, this, we already have compliant technology, 321 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: we already know the people in the space. And the 322 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: thing is, like Blake mentioned all the acronyms all different 323 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: sports organizations. What's what's interesting is they all have different rules, right, Like, 324 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: if you're a brand and you want to work with 325 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: NFL players, if you don't have an NFLPA license, you 326 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: can only work up with the five active players. Once 327 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: you go beyond that, you got to get a license. Well, 328 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: with the MLBPA, it's it's two right, it's only two players. 329 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: So if you're the guys who are not in the union, yeah, 330 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: exact exactly. So it's like you have to understand all 331 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: those rules. A lot of times we were educating brands 332 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: that were looking to spend money in sports on what 333 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: it's like to work with players. So then this whole 334 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: thing is like, of course the NCAA is going to 335 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: reach out to us and be like, hey, if we're 336 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: going to do this, what's the right way to do it? 337 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: Because there's gonna be a lot of compliance, There's gonna 338 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: be a lot of regulation. What are the rules that 339 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: should be in place? And so he's like, dude, it's 340 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: it's right here. So that was exciting, Like right there. Yeah, 341 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: So like that was the only compliment I'm going to 342 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: get them all day. For every compliment that I give 343 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: Blake he gets I just destroyed. 344 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh bro, while we've done nothing but. 345 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: Insult ratio. 346 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: So how when all of it finally got announced, Like obviously, 347 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: you guys are probably still living in the highest probably 348 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: some lows too. I know you've been in some phone 349 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: calls as well, like what's it been like since it's 350 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: all dropped, since it's all been announced? Like how many 351 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: how many athletes have actually started to benefit off of 352 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: open doors, like off of name, image likeness because everyone 353 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: everyone thinks like I think the same way is probably 354 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: going to be the best player on every team or 355 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: maybe the hottest. 356 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: Like, how many athletes have actually started to benefit from this? 357 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: Well, I mean there are Right now, there's forty thousand 358 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: student athletes that use open Doors and they are all 359 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: one click away from getting an endorsement deal. Like, we 360 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: have a brand partner, Go Puff. It's like, hey, we 361 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: will pay every single student afthe in the country. Like 362 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: because there's so many people, like, oh, only the quarterbacks 363 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: is going to get a deal, only the you know, 364 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: the starting port guard is gonna get a deal. But 365 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: we've got a brand that's like, no, we will offer 366 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: every single student athete in the country. Right, So as 367 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: soon as a student athete downloads the app and signs up, 368 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: they get their first endorsement deal. 369 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: So so what is go Puff? They must be like 370 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: they must have money, right. 371 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: It's a snack delivery app, right, Like it's like Postmates, 372 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: but for a college campus. It's open twenty four to seven. 373 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: You need snacks the middle of the night, man, Go Puff? 374 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: Is there no free shoutouts? 375 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 376 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no free shoutouts of Go Puff. You better spend 377 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: on open doors pay for this fucking shout out? Oh really, 378 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: So I'm just behind the time, I'm just not a yeah, okay. 379 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 4: So it's go for like college campuses, the audience because 380 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: you're like, you're you know, you're playing video games, you're 381 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: hanging out with the boys, and you're like, I just 382 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: need like some snacks, and we all had that moment 383 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: and you go on there app and it's it's right there. 384 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: So it's like it's naturally like this one of those 385 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 3: things that being in college. You know, you go back 386 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: to Nebraska, right, everyone knew that there was a Monster 387 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: Rep or a Red Bull Rep, or like the dude 388 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: that was working at the bar, you know, and everyone 389 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: knew that guy. And so these businesses have always tried 390 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: to find the most influential like fraternity sorority member to 391 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: be an ambassador. Right, But all these brands, the easiest 392 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: way to know who the most influential person is on 393 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: a campus is to pick a student athlete. But they've 394 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: never ever been able to actually pay a student athlete 395 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: to be an ambassador before, right, And so. 396 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: It's you in an envelope or right. Right, So if 397 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: your go puff, you'll go into open doors. And if 398 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: they want to pay every athlete, are they basically going 399 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: to Hey, the face value that's sitting on the athlete, 400 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Like based on what your guys's metrics are that have 401 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: curated like a price. 402 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 403 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: No, these guys have a flat rate offer for Anybody's 404 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 3: the same for everybody, right, So, and they're just like, hey, 405 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: if you're a student athlete and you turn on deals 406 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: and boomin, within seconds you get your first endorsement offer, 407 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: you say yes, and then open Doors automates like they 408 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: send out the tweet, they send it the payment we 409 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: had the tax preparation, Like, these kids are getting paid 410 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: within seconds of signing up. 411 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: It's why we have we have a bunch of partners 412 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 4: that are comparable to go pups that are lining up 413 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: for these h We call them like welcome off for 414 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: programs where what they want to do is they want 415 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: to be able to help every athlete. 416 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: So we're like, well, that aligns with what we want 417 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: to do. 418 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: So, like our idea for Open Doors in the future 419 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: is that as a student athlete, if you have the 420 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: app that every week there's a deal sitting there for 421 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: you from a different brand. Like every week you're like, oh, 422 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: I just went through the app and I'm able to 423 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: make fifty bucks. I'm able to make a hundred bucks. 424 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 4: And and I think the coolest part also from all 425 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: the brands that we've been like just everyone that's been 426 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: calling us inbound to really figure this out, is there's 427 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: just like where everyone's thinking that they're just going to 428 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: go off to the quarterback or the star volleyball player. 429 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: It's like most of the brands that want to do big, 430 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 4: big things at scale are like I want to help 431 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 4: every athlete. 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And in the last couple of weeks. 478 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: In the first couple of weeks, there's more than five 479 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: thousand endorsement deals been just facilitated through open doors. Really, yeah, 480 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: five thousand in the first two weeks. 481 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: And you have so you have forty thousand. You have 482 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: forty thousand athletes signed up right now. 483 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, student athletes. And each one of them like they 484 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: they're just gonna turn like flip the switch and get 485 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: the deal. So like every as we're sitting here, there's 486 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: probably one hundred new student athletes that are getting their 487 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: first deal. 488 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. That's I mean, what's what's it look 489 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: like if as. 490 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: People continue to sign up, like say you had say 491 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: every how many student athletes are there? 492 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: There's five or thousand student athletes. So if every student 493 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: athlete in the country made an average of uh, let's 494 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: say two hundred dollars a month, okay, that would be 495 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars a month in endorsements, right, that 496 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: is going to flow into this market, and somebody has 497 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: to manage it, you know, somebody has to make sure 498 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: that that dude is getting paid for that thing, and 499 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: it's not a recruiting inducement, is not a pay for 500 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: play scheme, like he's not getting paid by his coach, right, 501 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: So like unlike the professional athlete market, like this is 502 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: super regulated, you know. And then again in the ninety 503 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: percent of student athletes won't have an agent, but one 504 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: of them will have an app, right, and that's us, 505 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: Like we are the tool that they're using to monetize 506 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: their name, image of likeness. And what's wild is like 507 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 3: we started the same just to help one athlete, help 508 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: two athletes, help three athletes, but now we're on a 509 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: path here. It was like this should be the standard 510 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: for every student athlete, every pro athlete, like for the 511 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: rest of their career to do this, right, wild? 512 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: That is wild. 513 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking like you, you were bringing up 514 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: the agent stuff, like what do you see a lot 515 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: more agents now getting in this strategy getting in this 516 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: atmosphere of collegiate sports. 517 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: The economic model didn't make any sense, right, So you're you're. 518 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Essentially saying you can you can, like brands, why sit 519 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: there and negotiate with an agent when they're gonna try 520 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: to hold the leverage of a player, when you can 521 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: just go on this when you can essentially just go 522 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: on open door saying's like, we don't you guys are 523 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: the middle man yourself. 524 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: We don't replace agents, right, Yeah. 525 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, if you're a 526 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: brand wanting to spend like. 527 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: We we would repair like what an agent would do, 528 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: or like I just like there's so many of these Okay, 529 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: the economic model of being an agent. Imagine you're at 530 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: Nebraska and you're pulling in two hundred dollars a month, 531 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: Like for you, that's real money, oh, no question, But 532 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: an agent would what take ten twenty percent of that? 533 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: So what agent is gonna get out of bed and like, man, 534 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna workout tail off and make ten bucks this month. 535 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're saying like that, that makes sense because it started. 536 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: We're it all started was like two is eleven. Like 537 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: I had my short time in Carolina. I remember being 538 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: in the locker room and back in Nebraska, Blake and 539 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: I were helping athletes get deals, like some of our 540 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: former teammates, right, and I'm in the Panthers' locker room 541 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: and I know like my agent cared about me, but 542 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: it didn't make sense for him to go and find 543 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 4: a local Charlotte sponsor who would want to work with me. 544 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 4: It just didn't make sense because it was even if 545 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: it was a three hundred and four hundred dollars deal, 546 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: I had a small audience. What's he going to make 547 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 4: forty bucks on that when you can go spend the 548 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: same amount of time for starting linebacker and get a 549 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 4: fifteen thousand dollars deal. So I can't be mad at 550 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: the agent. The problem was access, So we're like, hey, 551 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: let's build a platform that addresses the access problem. Let's 552 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: let's let like why our only Peyton Manning and the 553 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: Tom Brady is getting all the endorsement dollars. It's not 554 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: that brands like don't want to work with the niche athletes. Like, 555 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: for you, you've got a really passionate did you have 556 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: a one hundred k yet? 557 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think we did. 558 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: Oh shit, norats Mans, You're now that that next year, right, 559 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, it's like, it's not. 560 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 561 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 562 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 4: It didn't feel fair that all the top athletes were 563 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: getting all the deals, and the brands really did want 564 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: to work even with the one hundred k athletes, actually 565 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: probably even more than that, but they just they had 566 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 4: the issue of access. How do I get a hold 567 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: of them? Do I don't want to negotiate this, like 568 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: because it's not really a big span, but it would 569 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: be advantageous for the athlete, And so we're like, we 570 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: need to solve that problem. So we started solving that 571 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: problem back in freaking twenty eleven, twenty twelve, And what 572 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: Blake was saying when the NFLPA called us, They're like, 573 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: we need this problem solved for all two thousand of 574 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: our active players. And then here we are ten years 575 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 4: later and we're trying to solve that problem for five 576 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: hundred thousand student athletes. 577 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah fuck man, yeah she yeah she not even only 578 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: the five hundred thousand student athletes, and also the ones 579 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: you still work with, like yeah, all the pro guys too, but. 580 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the cool part too. It's 581 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: like to know that, you know, you can log in anytime, 582 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: like to open to and you just you can see 583 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: the deal flow, right, and it's like, Okay, the largest 584 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: car company on the planet just send out five hundred 585 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: endorsement deals to every Olympic athlete, like every Team USA 586 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: Olympic athlete. You're like, that's cool, right, And then the 587 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: next thing you scroll down, it's like, oh, a food 588 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: truck and Lincoln Nebraska just paid the All American volleyball 589 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 3: player to be an ambassador for the year. Oh that's cool, 590 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: you know, and you just keep scrolling and you get 591 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: to a point where it's like, oh my gosh, like 592 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: that's Alex Morgan getting paid real, real money. Just drop 593 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: a post on Instagram and you know, you build this 594 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: tool with a dream like that, cool things can happen, 595 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: and then eventually you have a team around you and 596 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 3: you just get to see it kind of come to life. 597 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: It's like its own little thing. Yeah, it's like this bus, dude, 598 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: this bus at one point was a dream of yours, 599 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 3: you know, and like now you get to show up 600 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: and there's people here operating this thing and you're like, 601 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like this is bigger than me. 602 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: This is big. 603 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: It's it's it's a living, breathing thing. Now you just 604 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: got to like kind of guide it, coach, you know. 605 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 606 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's hard. 607 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: Like everybody would want to sponsor probably you know, a 608 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: niche of a team or like a group of a team, 609 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: or a position group or the entire team, but it's 610 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: hard when you got to work with probably you know, 611 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: all those different agents, all those different people, and you 612 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: have no clue of the guys who have like small 613 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: little followings, but they do some damage and it's not 614 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: worth it for that agent to be sticking out their 615 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: neck because like you were saying, your agent would only 616 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: make you know, twenty bucks off of like a four 617 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: hundred dollars deal. 618 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: That's right. 619 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 4: Well, and think about like the the nuance that exists. 620 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 4: Like so most of the time, even early on brands, 621 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 4: it's not about just working with one athlete, they want 622 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: to work with ten athletes, and if they're all represented 623 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: by different agents, that's ten different marketing reps or agents. 624 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so like its just different negotiating. 625 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, saw real quick, different contracts. So then it becomes 626 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: a headache. Now you're like, I don't even want to 627 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 4: do this because that's too much. Or let's say nine 628 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: athletes were miraculously easy to work with, but the one 629 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: agent is just being like it's tough. And again, it's 630 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: not the agent's fault. They're negotiating on behalf of their athlete, 631 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: and they may they might feel that the athlete is 632 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: worse than they should be or vice versa, right, and 633 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: it just slows down everything. So then a lot of 634 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: marketers just would just not want to do it because like, 635 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: I don't I don't understand athlete marketing. It's it's it's 636 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: too confusing. I don't want to go down the path 637 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: of having to negotiate way too much of this. And 638 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: so we're like, okay, we'll create a tool so that 639 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: all these parties can feel informed, they can do it quickly, 640 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: and when it's all said and done, it gets executed 641 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 4: and no one and the athlete literally just pulls their 642 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: phone out, they click approved, put their phone back in 643 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: their pocket. 644 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: Everyone's happy. 645 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 646 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: So to explain what essentially happens, like us at bus 647 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: and we use open doors like we use when we 648 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: get all of our content and gets strapped into open doors. 649 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: I get a text. 650 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Once the content all the boys get done making the content, 651 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: I get a text on my phone. Your folder's ready 652 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: for all the content we've made from us with the boys. 653 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: I click on that folder. It takes me to or 654 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: folder and it's got all the clips, all the photos, 655 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: anything I might want to post, and I can sit 656 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: there and click on a photo, or I can click 657 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: on a clip and I can hit tweet or Instagram 658 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: and I can make the caption right from there from 659 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the app and then it goes right out to the platform. 660 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: So that's how it helps us on busting. But how 661 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: it works for like the athletes, how what we're sitting 662 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: here talking about. They get a text and you can 663 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: hit approve. So if Busting with the Boys wanted to 664 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at Jack. Jack's a student athlete. 665 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: The Bust with the Boys wanted to sponsor Jack throwing 666 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: some merch throwing fifty bucks. We see we would go 667 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: into open doors dot com. We would see based on 668 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: what we want to get accomplished that Jack's are our 669 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: player or a group of players that we find like, 670 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: these are the guys who want to hit because this 671 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: is these are the metrics, is how well they do 672 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: in that city. 673 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: This is the reach we want to have. I click 674 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: on Jack, a couple other guys and send out this 675 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: deal to them. 676 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: It goes through. It filters through your guys of software. 677 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: The only thing that happens for the athlete. They get 678 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: a vibration in their pocket, just like a text message 679 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: they get. A text message comes from a Lincoln, it 680 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: comes from a Nebraska number four h two. You open 681 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: it up and it says open doors has a deal 682 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: for you. Go check it out. You click on the link, 683 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: it takes you. It takes you right to it. It 684 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: shows you the tweet that you're gonna have. It shows 685 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: you the caption that's going with it. It shows you 686 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: the graphic. It shows you everything you hit that it's 687 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: worth fifty dollars and some merchandise. You hit accept or decline. 688 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: If you hit accept, it says thank you, we will 689 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: take care of the rest. It goes out for busting 690 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: with the boys at the time stamp. We picked it 691 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: at the day, we chose the daytime. 692 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: All of it. It's seamless for both sides. 693 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: The athlete benefits and gets the money in their bank account, 694 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: and then obviously the merchandise gets shipped to them. If 695 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: they hit the cline, they hit the cline and nothing happens, 696 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: or you can edit it and make the caption your own. 697 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: But did I anything. 698 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm is there sitting here trying to think of I'm like, damn, 699 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: you want a job salesmooth it up? 700 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And every year in Nebraska, where the season starts 701 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: or a spring game happens, they target the alumni to 702 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: do a spring game post. It comes in as it's 703 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: for free, so we're always doing a sell it for 704 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: the boys, shouting the boys, and there's always a graphic 705 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: with like, you know, spring game is fifty one days away. 706 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: And I'll be like, oh, that's a corny caption, so 707 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: I'll edit the caption, hit accept, and then literally the tweet. 708 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: I could be chilling all the daylong and the tweet 709 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: would have been out there and you know, you just 710 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: did they take care of. 711 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: It for you, and you know What's Will was like, 712 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: I love how you say that. And there's a lot 713 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: of people that listen, they watch this show and they 714 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: see you Will, they see Taylor, and like, you are 715 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: the one percent of athletes that understand how to properly 716 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: market yourself. Like you're active, you're on social media, you're 717 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: saying the right things, right place, right time, and the 718 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: majority of athletes aren't natural marketers, you know what I'm saying. 719 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: Like that was one of the things that we had 720 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: to learn over those last decade too, was like you know, 721 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: the old thing like if you build it, they will 722 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: come right. Like every startup founder is like, oh, we're 723 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: gonna be billionaires in a day, you know, like you 724 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: no doubt this idea. 725 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: Let's figure it out. We're rich tomorrow's. 726 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: Getting a rocket shift, yeah, you know, And that's not 727 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: how like you got to go through fits and starts 728 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: and realize like that these athletes are like, hey, why 729 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: aren't these brands like jumping on these athletes? And then 730 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: you would go to the athletes feed and they haven't 731 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: like tweeted or posted on Instagram in a month, you know, 732 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: And like imagine you work at ESPN, You're trying to say, hey, man, 733 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: this is the best show. You should advertise in the show, 734 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: and like, oh, let me watch it. You turn it on, 735 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: it's static, Like no one's gonna buy advertising on a 736 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: static TV, right, So what we realized, like we had 737 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: to find a way to like help athletes figure it, 738 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: Like you got to market yourself, man, Like you gotta 739 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: you gotta photos, videos, content, Like you gotta be pushing 740 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: that stuff out all the time, and like that's the 741 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: secret that everyone that's listening here that behind the scenes 742 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: of your favorite athlete most likely is this open doors 743 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: app that's like hand delivering them photos, videos, content from 744 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: their team, their league, they're they're alma mater, so they 745 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: can be more active because nobody's going none of these 746 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: brands want to work with athletes unless they have something 747 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: to say and they're saying it. And like again, most 748 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: athletes aren't natural marketers, Like Will Compton is an anomaly, 749 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: he's a he's a he's a free wee. 750 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just hit one hundred k followers and. 751 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: He's this guy is the most natural marketer. 752 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Well I remember too, Like you're wanting to make content 753 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: for the athletes. So also, like in my open Doors folder, 754 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: I have all my Washington photos, all my Tennessee photos. 755 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: I did that for you. 756 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: You did all my Oakland Raider photos, all of it, 757 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: all those different folders, and then obviously all the bust 758 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: and assets that we have. 759 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: But well it is. 760 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: But like I'll just the last thing. I'll add on 761 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: on the common because I think it is important. It 762 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: is like we we realized that, like not all athletes 763 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: are marketers. But consistency is the one thing that you 764 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: you can't like. As long as you're sharing something, you're 765 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: going to be growing, right, So like the worst thing 766 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: you can do is not share anything. 767 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: And because you're worried about it, Yeah, about something, you 768 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: just post. 769 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: Exactly, just post a photo like I like I'm I 770 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 4: would say, I'm like social media introvert. Like I don't 771 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: share a lot. I know what my brand is. But like, 772 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: once I figured out, like the things that I like 773 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: to talk about is I like to champion other people. 774 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: I like to champion my teammates. I like to talk 775 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: about when other people are winning. I love that shit, right, 776 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: If our company is doing something exciting, I love that stuff, right, 777 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: And so you just double down on those things, and 778 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 4: like imagine if you had a folder. It was just 779 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 4: you and your teammates. You could literally, like every week 780 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 4: just post that, or go and and and make fun 781 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 4: of one of your teammates, right, or do something right. 782 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: That's content. 783 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 4: You're not talking about yourself for those for those athletes 784 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 4: who are again more on the introvert signs, like, dude, 785 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 4: social media is not for me. 786 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: It's like gues. It might not be for you, but 787 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: your fans they do care about what you're doing, and 788 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: this is the only window of opportunity. Yeah, exactly. You 789 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 3: think about this, like, man, I cannot believe that Will 790 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: Coff is still playing in the NFL. You know what 791 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying That isol day one recruiting trip, I said this, dude, Yeah, 792 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: that's this dude. Dude, remember when Callahan got fired. You 793 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 3: were committed before, Like you weren't committed to bo right, yeah, 794 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: correct was committed to Yes, And like then they're like, dude, 795 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: there's a beast to keep them. 796 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: We got to keep them. 797 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 5: Four star, four star, you know. And I'm like, yeah, 798 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 5: you came in the dorms me and were roominate. We 799 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 5: had that like that super double and then you came 800 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 5: in there. Yeah, that's super double and you're like, dude, 801 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 5: but mister Ai though, like I might go down to missoo. 802 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, stop o my god, yeah out stop 803 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 5: it the hometown state, you know, like will get that 804 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: raspy voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah you do, dude. He's like, 805 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, put them at teeth, Yeah, dude, 806 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 5: they were. They were a classic. You left those in 807 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 5: yeah down there, so we'll pick them teeth up. She's 808 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: but you know, like you imagine though you're still doing it. 809 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: And like we were. We were playing at the same time. Bro, 810 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: we started together and like I haven't been a football 811 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: player for twelve years, you know what I'm saying. But 812 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: because the concussions, well yeah, I mean I had some 813 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: concussion issues, right, you would have been in the league 814 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: a little oh first. Yeah, it was beasting you in practice. 815 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 3: I knows what I'm saying. Like this, guys, how. 816 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: Much could you bened one thirty five? How many times I. 817 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: Got it like to eleven one time? 818 00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: Dude? 819 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: I was so hey, I was so weak. 820 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake was like the only dude who had the 821 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: body were like the tight the tight fit shirt like 822 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: looked like a T shirt. 823 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: Right, That's what's the what's the strength coach that he's 824 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: at Tampa Bay. Now, uh wait coach wait away coach Wade? Yes, yeah, 825 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: waye dope. He he told me every day he say, hey, Lawrence, 826 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: you're skinny fat. I'm like, what is That's brutal, that's 827 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: pretty dadbod. Like that's like when dad bod was not 828 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: a thing yet, Like you had a dad bob when 829 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: you were like when you're like nineteen, I'm trendy and 830 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: you didn't have children or a wife. I was dad 831 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 3: bottom before dad was actually pretty cool. 832 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 833 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: No, just pounding the gatorade chicks trying to get big. 834 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we did. Used to pound some Gatoray chicks. 835 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: I used to put in my pockets. Uh when you 836 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: way in dude, if you were underweight, remember we underweight 837 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: to roll. 838 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 839 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 4: That's the most brutal about Dobson saying he's like, yeah, 840 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 4: we should have never made you guys do that. 841 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he does. He does. 842 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: He's like, but you guys are so like he talked 843 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: about how what the culture was like they got there 844 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: and they had to just do some extreme as ship. 845 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 846 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: Oh they did it right though. I Mean I gave 847 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 4: him a lot of compliments and like we needed to 848 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 4: get her ask kick. That's how you get people to 849 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 4: like fall in line and actually do things and commit. 850 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: And they met yesterday, did they really? 851 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 4: Man? 852 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 853 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: Y and dude he yeah, he liked you guys. Fuck. 854 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: I was a projects like this dude. I was like 855 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: just so little, but I don't know I did. I 856 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: would go in to get the chocolate milks. I get 857 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 3: him out of the fridge. You know, we had pockets 858 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: and shorts. I would go down there like mosey down 859 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 3: and I'd have two chocolate milks in my pockets and 860 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: we would weigh in the hawks. And then there was 861 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: that closet right there, so I would weigh in and 862 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: I'd make weight, and then I would duck into that closet, 863 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 3: take out the chocolate mousk and just chuck them into 864 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: that closet. I did it all summer, and then one 865 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: day the trainer was going in there to get like 866 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: the pads out, and she came out gagging, you know 867 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 3: because all the spoiled milk and hot closet down on 868 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: the facide. I made weight though, I never I never 869 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: never had a roll. Just made that trainer's day though. 870 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 6: Shout out Cigars International. No free shoutouts, shout out Will. 871 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 6: Right now, Cigars International is offering our listeners ten percent 872 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 6: off your order plus free shipping. Just go to cigars 873 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 6: at international dot com and use promo code. Boys at 874 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 6: checkout talk. 875 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: About a personalized story. 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Man, it's over before you know it. 927 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: Like so, you know, one day, I'm a starting linebacker 928 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: in Nebraska. The next day can never play football again, 929 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 3: you know, and my career is done in a day. 930 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 3: And like from that day to this moment, like I've 931 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: dedicated my whole professional career. Audio has two to make 932 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: sure athletes understand this doesn't last forever, Like you have 933 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 3: no idea how long your win of opportunity is. So 934 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: if we can give you a tool of technology, like 935 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 3: so you can make the most of it. Like these 936 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 3: eyeballs on you are not going to be there when 937 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 3: you're gone, So get as many as you can, like 938 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: collect them up, get them, like this is like a 939 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: supermarket frenzy. Get every fan in Nebraska in the cart 940 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: because you're out of there before you even know it, right, 941 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: And like if you do that for every athlete on 942 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: the plan, like then everyone's gonna win, you know. And 943 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 3: like you've done it. You found a way to trick 944 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: all these NFL teams and as sign and you the 945 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 3: play and then you get to one hundred k ten 946 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 3: years later. I mean, like it's a it's a Cinerella story, 947 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 3: c that is. But you're playing the long game, you know. 948 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 3: But we got to do that, and I think, I 949 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: know we're making the difference in a lot of kids lives. 950 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: They have to. 951 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 3: It's not and it's not like, yeah, like. 952 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: Audi, how long did you play? Did you only play 953 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: a year or two years? Audi was a kicker? Audi, 954 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: the unbelievable kicker. I mean kind of heard us big 955 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: to change. 956 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: We won't talk about that. 957 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 3: Oh you don't. 958 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 2: The Panthers. 959 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then. 960 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: Obviously you transition right away into being a. 961 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 4: Well we had well, so Blake and I had started 962 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: our first company. It was a social media agency in 963 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 4: twenty ten. 964 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 3: That yeah, I heard that. Where did you hear that? 965 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 3: I heard that? 966 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: Facebook? Yeah? 967 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 4: I don't know why we chose Actually I do know. 968 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 4: It's a very That company still exists. Yeah, bro, so 969 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: we sold the company in twenty fourteen, but it's alive 970 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 4: and well right now, Like it has probably like I 971 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 4: don't know, twenty employees and they carry on. It's kind 972 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 4: of weird to walk by like and see the office, 973 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: yes and not knowing start of that company. 974 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you started that. 975 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that that So we started that company. And 976 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 4: I had like a dilemma and I was telling you 977 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 4: about at this maybe at some point, but like I 978 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 4: think as an athlete, the one thing I think every 979 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 4: athlete is taught their entire life is to not quit, right, 980 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 4: So the transition from wanting to be an athlete and 981 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 4: and like making a decision to do something else is very, 982 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 4: very difficult because you feel like you're quitting something, and 983 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 4: then most people are forced into quitting things. 984 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 3: And I think this is why. 985 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 4: Also, like sometimes people just they hang on for too long, right, 986 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 4: Like if you don't make it in that first year 987 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 4: in the league, usually it's like, dude, you're probably not 988 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 4: going to make it, right or if you. 989 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: Haven't played, like it's like if bomb hanging on to 990 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: the dream and I don't and I don't get a 991 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: call for another year and it's still July, and I'm like, 992 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: I gotta be ready. 993 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you're like you're like doing like you know, 994 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 4: we've had teammates former teammates, but I think a lot 995 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 4: of athletes go through this where they're like, yeah, man, 996 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm just like trying to make a team right now, 997 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 4: Like I'm staying super busy. 998 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm like. 999 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 4: With what And they're like, well, you know, I'll just 1000 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 4: get I just got to work out in I'm like, 1001 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 4: and then what do you do the rest of the day, Like, well, nothing, 1002 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, what are you doing? 1003 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: Right? 1004 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 4: Like, it's not it's not coming back. And I think 1005 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: that that is a tough part because it's it's the 1006 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 4: quitting thing, and you're right, right right, and it's a 1007 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 4: psyche thing, right you like, I don't want to quit. 1008 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: And you find those rare examples of it working out, 1009 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: like for the majority, for the most part, ninety percent 1010 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: is done. After that happens exam, you have like a 1011 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, your invincible stories, and that's where guys get that. 1012 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: Opportunity because they only cover the success stories, dude. They 1013 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 4: only cover like the guys that that you know hung 1014 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 4: on and they freaking made a team, and it's great. 1015 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 4: I think that should exist in sports. But for the 1016 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 4: most part, I think when you're hanging on for that 1017 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 4: long and it's not like moving forward, you are not 1018 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 4: starting to transition into reality of life. Like being in 1019 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: the NFL is not a real thing. Like making twenty 1020 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 4: grand a week whatever it is minimum now, it's like 1021 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 4: that's not real life, right, So when you start to 1022 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 4: have a real job and you start realize how much 1023 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 4: it takes to make forty thousand dollars a year or 1024 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 4: fifty or sixty, like, you're like what So I'm I'm 1025 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 4: on the side of like you should start to realize 1026 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 4: that a little bit sooner than trying to hang on 1027 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 4: to something and whatnot. But that you know, that's kind 1028 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 4: of like beside the point. But like I had this 1029 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 4: dilemma where I got back My last workout trial was 1030 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 4: with the Buffalo Bills. 1031 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 3: It was in December, and uh going to kick in 1032 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 3: Buffalo in December? 1033 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, I literally I remember I 1034 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 4: called my my my wife now twenty twelve and I 1035 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 4: called Shannon my my wife and we're dating that and 1036 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even know if I want to 1037 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: make this team because I'm like, this place would sucked, 1038 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 4: you know. 1039 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 3: It was just like it's just you knowing buffalo and 1040 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, so sorry. 1041 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: You don't want to get jokes blamed on the table probably. 1042 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 1043 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: Now I'm when I get a bunch of people attacking me, 1044 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 4: but no, like I so, but I remember I came 1045 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 4: back and we had our business going at the time, 1046 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: and I had this like moment where I'm like, I'm 1047 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 4: done with these workouts, man, Like I'm done trying to 1048 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: make a team. It was becoming more and more difficult 1049 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 4: to try to lead people and a company when you 1050 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 4: had like a side thing when it was like, Okay, 1051 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm I'm trying to build a business, but also like 1052 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 4: if I get a call from somebody, then I might 1053 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 4: go and do that. And so me and him had 1054 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 4: the conversation and I was like it was but it 1055 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 4: felt good that like I made the decision to stop, right, 1056 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 4: And I don't know if I would have gotten a 1057 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 4: call again. I'm gonna call my agent and I was like, hey, 1058 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 4: if I get any more inbound calls, just let him know, 1059 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 4: like I'm done, right. 1060 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 3: He's like, well, what about Canada? I'm like, I'm not 1061 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,439 Speaker 3: doing Canada, Like it's just not my jam. 1062 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 4: And I'm super thankful looking back that I made that 1063 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 4: transition because one we had something, but two it felt 1064 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: more like I was in control of the situation, the 1065 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 4: story and I got to I got to kick in 1066 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 4: the league. Like it was like, first Bosnian player to 1067 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 4: ever play in the NFL, Like that was. That was 1068 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 4: a proud moment, right, And did. 1069 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: You're the first Bosnian player I ever played in the NFL. 1070 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 3: It's like a super fun fact, right, Yeah. Yeah, it's 1071 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 3: a dope thing. 1072 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 4: I mean, how many Bossians are can actually even have 1073 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 4: an opportunity to Ye, if there's ever another BOSSI of 1074 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 4: plays in the league, it will probably be a kicker. 1075 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like, yo, what's up? What's going on? First? 1076 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 3: So first? 1077 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 4: But yeah, that was but that was that was a 1078 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 4: kind of a cool thing looking back at it now. 1079 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 4: But like, and I was giving you some credit earlier, 1080 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 4: I think you've had the best. You're like in the 1081 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 4: middle of this transition from athlete to entrepreneur like business 1082 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 4: owner like podcast because it's like it is, you're like 1083 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 4: in it halfway, you're over here, but then you're doing 1084 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 4: things and like you're doing it like the way. Yeah, 1085 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 4: Like you've been investing in your own brand for a 1086 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 4: very long time to be able to do it, and 1087 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: it's very clear that you like there's a there is 1088 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: effort there, there's skill there, there's obviously like the actual 1089 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 4: like talent that you have there. So I think that's 1090 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 4: really cool and it's it's something that other people could 1091 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 4: look at as a playbook and actually try to do 1092 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 4: and replicate themselves. 1093 00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 1094 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to get better at accepting compliments and everything, 1095 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: but you know, you guys have I'm having too many, 1096 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: and I'm starting to get like. 1097 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 4: You know, a podcast like and it's so funny how 1098 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 4: you give someone a compliment and that you're just waiting 1099 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 4: for the next roast, Like. 1100 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: I know, like we do got to just be. 1101 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: Better, Like Taylor and I are trying to consciously be better, 1102 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: like when we're you know, we had to think yesterday 1103 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: like all right, let's hurry up. 1104 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 2: And stop talking about that. Yeah, yeah, I feel you though. 1105 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: Man, It's like it's always been tough because a lot 1106 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: of times guys don't like with all of it, everything 1107 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about right number one, it fires me up 1108 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: that you're like, it's gone in a day, Like your 1109 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: window of opportunity is so small. It's like athletes are 1110 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: brands too. That book, you guys know the book, Well 1111 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: read that book in. 1112 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 2: One day, the only time I've ever read a book 1113 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: in one day. 1114 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 3: Lots of colors. 1115 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's pop up book. 1116 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: Gives a pop up book, but phenomenal book, and it 1117 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: just breaks down the moment of time that you actually 1118 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: have as an athlete. It's like like, look, you got 1119 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: your unicorse, you got your you got your quarterbacks, you 1120 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: got your ones that they're always gonna make the big money, 1121 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: like the one percent of the one percent of the 1122 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: one percent, but everybody else, Like you got to find 1123 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: your niche. You gotta find your voice, like whether you 1124 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: want to be in it or not, like you're in 1125 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: the game of social media, you know, and yeah, you 1126 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: don't have to care about it. If you want to 1127 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: do other stuff, like you know you want to I 1128 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: don't know, but you want to do other stuff, it's fine. 1129 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: Or if you want to think like what am I 1130 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: trying to say here, Like if you're not about it, 1131 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: it's all good. 1132 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: Not everyone has to do this, right, but if you 1133 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 3: realize what you have you should consider like using sports 1134 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: as a springboard into whatever you want to do. 1135 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you have interest, you need to understand 1136 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: that this stuff is a tool, and you only have 1137 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: a finite window, the average window, Like it's not even 1138 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: the pro guys. It's like if you play in college 1139 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 1: or even high school, like you have a very small 1140 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: window to use it as an advance for you. 1141 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 4: This is something I like, Like I think LinkedIn is 1142 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 4: completely like under utilized or misunderstood. 1143 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: And I think I'm misunderstanding because I'm not I want 1144 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 2: to fou So imagine this. 1145 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 4: When you are at Nebraska, You've got that end on 1146 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 4: your helmet, on the side of your helmet. You have 1147 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 4: a lot of leverage, right, So like if you wanted 1148 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 4: to meet with anybody in town, they're gonna do it 1149 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 4: because you're a player, Like you have a frickin jersey on. 1150 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 3: You're one of one. There's no no one like you. 1151 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 4: So if I'm a student athlete, I'm getting a LinkedIn, 1152 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 4: I'm connecting with everybody in the community. And let's say 1153 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 4: I care about engineering or I'm big into advertising, I 1154 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 4: would connect with everybody in the community. Everyone that went 1155 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 4: to Nebraska who's an advertising and I'd be like, Hey, 1156 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 4: just want to connect with you. I'm a current student athlete. 1157 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 4: I would just love to connect with you on here. 1158 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 4: Maybe sometime I'd love to pick your brain on something. 1159 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 4: You're literally amassing this network and at any given point, 1160 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 4: let's say in the spring, you get some downtime, you 1161 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 4: can go and grab coffee with that person, and now 1162 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 4: you have you've been building your network. When you're done 1163 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 4: playing sports, they will remember you. And you got to 1164 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 4: literally almost build like a network and a resume of 1165 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 4: people that you can go and work with right away. Well, 1166 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 4: when you graduate and you don't have the leverage anymore, 1167 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 4: you don't have the helmet anymore, it's harder to get 1168 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 4: that coffee meeting. 1169 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 2: Oh it's different. 1170 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 4: It's different because it's not that I don't know. It's 1171 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 4: not that like people all of a sudden don't care 1172 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 4: about you. It's just like it's just different. 1173 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 3: We all know that. 1174 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just is what it is. 1175 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: Like you're playing a sport, like if I'm a fan 1176 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: right of the Titans, and I'm a diehard fan, like 1177 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: and you're watching the Titans and celebrate, and then you 1178 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 1: see one of them where. 1179 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 2: You get to have engagement with one of them, like. 1180 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: It just hypes you up, regardless if they're in an 1181 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: alumni it's just different. It's not that they don't, it's 1182 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 1: not that it's it's. 1183 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 3: Just it's just different. Yeah, I think that's one of 1184 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 3: the things like to what we're doing. Like a lot 1185 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 3: of these kids are signing up for open doors and 1186 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,479 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I'm gonna get money. I'm gonna get money, 1187 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 3: you know. It's like, yeah, it's right. If they use 1188 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 3: openers to get an endorsement deal, then that is so 1189 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: so awesome. Like in reality, they're gonna build audience so 1190 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 3: they can get a job offer, right, Like that's as good. 1191 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 3: And like if you're a kid and you walk out 1192 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 3: of Nebraska with twenty thousand followers, like one of those 1193 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: people was going to offer you a job, right, Like 1194 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 3: you're that that's how that should work. And that's again 1195 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 3: like trying to springboard off for that. And so we're 1196 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 3: we're it's fun like being what we're doing. But then 1197 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 3: anyone that's listening, like I think that you who was 1198 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 3: on the bus yesterday, I'm just gonna throw off you know, 1199 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 3: this is right? Dale Junior was on the bus. Dude, 1200 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 3: do you remember like the very first time that you 1201 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 3: had a Twitter exchange with him? 1202 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1203 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: I was gassed. I was geeked out. 1204 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 2: Man. 1205 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 3: I was running around screenshot and my dude, Will Compton's 1206 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: talking to somebody cool, you know, and like you're saying 1207 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 3: you were, I was hyped up for you because you 1208 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 3: in that moment you had to realize, bro, that you are, 1209 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: but you're talking to him. Why is not talking to you? No, 1210 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 3: but like that's a and then you at that moment 1211 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 3: you had to realize, oh, dang, like I can use 1212 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 3: this platform for this. He was on your bus, on 1213 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 3: your podcast in your city and it all started on 1214 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 3: some Twitter exchange. 1215 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1216 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 3: Like that's the power of an athlete actually leaning into 1217 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 3: this stuff. 1218 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 2: Dude. Yeah, no, no, weird. You're right, that is weird. 1219 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1220 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: And because I always go for like when you say 1221 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: it's just different, Like the thing I always say is 1222 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: you're better looking, your jokes are funnier. You can shake 1223 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: more hands when you're in the league, like or when 1224 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: you have a jersey on, or when you're wrapping something 1225 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: of like quote unquote status, right, and the minute you're 1226 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: out of it. It just it all goes the other way, 1227 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: that's right, whether it comes off as you trying harder, 1228 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,720 Speaker 1: a little more desperate. 1229 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 4: All that stuff like, yeah, you don't have that as much, 1230 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 4: right because like when you're in the league, like, you 1231 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 4: have leverage. So then whoever has the more more leverage 1232 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 4: can in the relationship can come off maybe a little 1233 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 4: bit more desperate or they have they have a motive 1234 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 4: to want something from you. When you are when you 1235 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 4: have all the leverage, and you show humility and that 1236 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 4: you're humble, that you're just grateful for people, remember that, 1237 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 4: and then later when you don't have the leverage, those 1238 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 4: people will remember how you treated them, how you made 1239 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 4: them feel, and you'll be able to work with them, ye, 1240 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 4: or you'll be able to do something. And that's I mean, 1241 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 4: if you think, I mean we like this is all 1242 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 4: about like at the end of the day, it's all 1243 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 4: about what Blake was saying. It is like hyping people up, 1244 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 4: helping people, and that's what it is. It's like if 1245 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 4: you are a just like a genuine authentic person when 1246 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 4: you have leverage, then even after it's gone, people will 1247 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 4: still want to do things with you. 1248 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're back with another ad Strap up, boys, This 1249 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 6: one is about to get long, strenuous, and we might 1250 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 6: face a little adversity. 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One tip he gave. 1302 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: Everybody was like when he was in the league, he 1303 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: at the end of every year, he'd get about fifty 1304 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: jerseys and any meeting, any conversation he wanted to have, 1305 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: he would whether you had the meeting already or one 1306 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: of one, he would send him a jersey with a 1307 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: written note on it. So that was like a memorable thing. 1308 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: So that way he always had them in their network. 1309 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: Because it is like if you want to relate it 1310 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: to anybody, like anybody in life, as they're going through stuff, 1311 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: everybody negotiates, like at some point or another, we're always negotiating, 1312 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 1: and it's all about having some kind of leverage or 1313 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: having some kind of want to fill some need and 1314 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: in this finite amount of time as an athlete, as 1315 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: a student. 1316 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 2: Athlete, whatever, you have that limited time to use it 1317 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: as much as a tool as you can because you're 1318 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 2: trending this way. 1319 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: And then when it's over, you hope you've built a 1320 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: network or an audience the way they're explaining athletes or 1321 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: brands suit to where even as it goes down because 1322 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: you're done playing, you're still able to keep it. 1323 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: You know, the old hockey stick whatever, it's fucking. 1324 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's it's it's scary, dude, like the whenever, 1325 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 4: like the last graph, the graph, real tough word, real. 1326 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 3: Tough rocky stick graph, whatever, graph. 1327 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 5: God damn it, Blake, you made me lose my train 1328 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 5: of thought here. But no, I was because then then 1329 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 5: when it's done, it it drops. If you have zero, 1330 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 5: if you have zero, it's like, uh, I think about 1331 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 5: it this way. It's like, it's scary. So you the 1332 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 5: last Bowl game happens, and it's it's so interesting whether 1333 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 5: you win the game or you lose the game. But uh, 1334 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 5: there is a ton of mixed emotions in the locker room. 1335 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 5: Everyone gets back in the locker room if you're a senior, right, 1336 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 5: so you're looking around, and there's some people that are 1337 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 5: crying because they're like, this is the last time they'll 1338 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 5: ever play the sport again. There's some people who like 1339 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 5: they know they're going to have a shot at the 1340 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 5: next level, so they're just kind of like it's just 1341 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 5: another playing with the boys. 1342 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's just kind of like that. 1343 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 4: There is then there's some people who are uncertain. There's 1344 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 4: some people who are like, man, this was the coolest 1345 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 4: thing that's ever going to happen in my life. That's 1346 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 4: a sad thing to say, but there's some people that 1347 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 4: have that mentality, right because whether you were at Nebraska 1348 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 4: or freaking Ohio State or Clemson, I don't know, but 1349 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 4: like those things are definitely going through people's minds. And 1350 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 4: so then whatever that feeling is, because it's it's almost 1351 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 4: like a timetable. After that bowl game happens, after that day, 1352 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 4: it's almost it's on the decline, right. The lead up 1353 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 4: to the draft is kind of like everyone still has 1354 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 4: hope because free agency happens, you might get drafted. 1355 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 2: Ohough. The whole the whole thought is usual need to 1356 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 2: get in camp. 1357 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, I just need to get in a camp and 1358 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 4: but it's just on this like slow, slight, like steady 1359 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 4: kind of decline and it's crazy. Then if you then 1360 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 4: run into people in the summer who nothing happened, it's 1361 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 4: like the leverage is completely gone, and that's when you 1362 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 4: want to be like, hey, but what else have you 1363 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 4: been doing to build your brand? 1364 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Right? And even that person, you'll feel the energy from 1365 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 2: them too that nothing's gone. 1366 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 3: It's gone. 1367 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: And when you haven't built blossom and I talk about it, 1368 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: but when you haven't built like a Plan B, it's 1369 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: like that whole mindset. Don't ever have a Plan B 1370 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: because of deters from Plan A, Like i hate personally 1371 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: hate that advice, just because I've always thought about like 1372 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: what's going to come next? So that way, whenever you transition, 1373 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: there's something like you're just not you just don't have 1374 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: that energy about you, that nothing's happening, that you're at 1375 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: the peak. 1376 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 4: And yes, it's not going to be there anymore, Yes dude, 1377 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 4: it's you are sad to say, but like you can 1378 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 4: be in the nile right, Like you're like, well, if 1379 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 4: I if I'm planning for a Plan B, then that 1380 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 4: means I'm not one hundred percent in for plan A. 1381 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 4: But it's almost scared. You're you're almost too scared to 1382 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 4: admit to yourself that a plan B is A is 1383 01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 4: a good decision. 1384 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 3: I just I guess I think that. 1385 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 2: You because you had to make that call. 1386 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 3: Well absolutely, I was building a Plan B, Plan C, 1387 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 3: Plan D. I'm like, yeah, I don't know what's going 1388 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 3: to happen, but yeah, I gotta be ready. 1389 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: When I was on. 1390 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Dressed and I had my poaz thought. But when I 1391 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: got my first house, I said it. My signing bust 1392 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: was five thousand dollars being drafted. Guy, I remember putting 1393 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: in my account. I'm like to talk with my mom. 1394 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,919 Speaker 2: She helps. We were like on the Stave Ramsey Kick. 1395 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 3: You go by a Bentley what you do? 1396 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm like, I got to make this 1397 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 2: last war. 1398 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeahs, yeah, I got this for three months and I'm 1399 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: like thinking, like what the next that's going to be 1400 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: like thing? 1401 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 2: But anyway, go ahead. 1402 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 1: No. 1403 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna make fun of Audie for being a kicker. 1404 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, the second he's never done that. 1405 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 2: He's never. 1406 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 4: If we're on if we're on a call together, he's 1407 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 4: bringing that up, and I'm like, dude, we've already talked 1408 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 4: to these people. 1409 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because oh, I played in the NFL. Is like, no, 1410 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 3: you kicked in the NFL. That's the difference. And then 1411 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 3: he'll be like, oo, what's the NFL stand for? Not 1412 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 3: for long? And I'm like, I, dude, already came the 1413 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 3: joke a joke. I came w on this bus to 1414 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 3: tell those jokes to the world. Okay, that's just that's 1415 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 3: you're taking the right jokes are great. 1416 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yo, I love seeing the authenticity from this too. 1417 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you having questions on that, Like, you 1418 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 1: guys have clearly been like best friends since the Links apartments. 1419 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: When we're at the Links and Blake can't come out 1420 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: and play video games with us because his girlfriend at 1421 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: the times pissed off at. 1422 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Him, you know, he's like, yeah, he's like, you know, 1423 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 2: you know, but my girlfriend likes dude. 1424 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 3: I would have beasted you in Halo though. Yeah true, 1425 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 3: I know, yeah you're a weak but. 1426 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: But you guys being best friends this long, like navigating 1427 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: your partnership and growing this business together, like what growing 1428 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: pains has or been? 1429 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 2: Like what advice would you have? Like make it a 1430 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 2: two part question too, because I have. 1431 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 1: Like questions for any young listeners or athletes listening that 1432 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: have like these inklings of interest on how to start. 1433 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 2: But let's start there. 1434 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 3: Hey, I would say, like anyone that's listening now obviously 1435 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 3: knows you and Taylor in your dynamics, right, and I 1436 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 3: think that sometimes you guys are your goop balls one 1437 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 3: hundredercent of the time, right, But like it is obvious, 1438 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 3: and he gases you up every once, and I'll give 1439 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 3: you a comment like that you balance him out, like 1440 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 3: you're running the show, right and you get to both 1441 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 3: get on the mic, but he probably shows up and 1442 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 3: you're doing a lot of work, you know what I'm saying, 1443 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 3: Like in this in this relationship, like I'm more the tailor, right, 1444 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 3: like I get to show up. Audi is the like 1445 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 3: we are a complete like yin Yang. You know, Audi 1446 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 3: is an absolute operator. And I'm over on the whiteboard 1447 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 3: like thinking about god knows what, like some crazy ass ideas. Yeah, 1448 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 3: I'm doodling like exactly that my job is not drawing, 1449 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 3: not doing any work. Yeah, I really don't. 1450 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 2: I really don't know. 1451 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Literally, I'm a senior in school and they're running heard 1452 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: that the first one they were alluding to earlier, the 1453 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: first business you guys, Wilt and uh. Blake is in 1454 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: my business law class, one of my business classes, and 1455 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Blake is like the guest speaker, and he's doodling the 1456 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: entire time to explain it throughout his speech. 1457 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 2: He like speeches and doodles. 1458 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 4: That's like, no, man, we're It's a balance though, Yeah, 1459 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 4: for sure. I think the early the biggest misconception is 1460 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 4: that we're actually friends. Like I don't know why, No, 1461 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 4: it's I think we've had We've had ups and downs. 1462 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 4: I think we had early in our journey. We had 1463 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 4: two businesses that we were running when we were two 1464 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 4: years in the herd that when we started Open Doors 1465 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 4: and Blake being the visionary and me being the integrator. Right, 1466 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 4: the traction thing is like I know how to execute 1467 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 4: build teams in scale, and he knows how to take 1468 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 4: things from like blank sheet of paper to something right. 1469 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 4: And so we had like a two year journey where 1470 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 4: we were running separate companies. We were sort of in 1471 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 4: the same office, kind of partitioned, and then we lived together. 1472 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 4: So he would come home at night and he would 1473 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 4: try to brag to me and he's like, dude, I 1474 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,479 Speaker 4: just closed you know a three hundred thousand dollars round 1475 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 4: or fund rains from friends and family, and I'd be like, yeah, man, 1476 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 4: but I closed one hundred thousand dollars contract. So I 1477 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 4: was like, making money is way harder than raising money, Okay, 1478 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 4: So chill like, yeah, you give me money, Yeah, make 1479 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 4: money create value. 1480 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 3: That's weird. You don't know anything about that. So so 1481 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 3: we would have this this competition took over revenue this quarter, 1482 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 3: and we were up one hundred and twenty percent of 1483 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 3: our audise numbers last quarter, so you. 1484 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 4: Know, and we know what he's competing. He's comparing those 1485 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 4: numbers to COVID last year. Dude, of course the numbers 1486 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 4: were down. Don't handicap me, bro Okay anyways, and you 1487 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 4: get like you. 1488 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 2: Got you got a lot of hype issue too. 1489 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 3: It's like being in ticket sales at the Titans, like yeah, dude, 1490 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 3: ticket sales are up this year. It's like, yeah, no 1491 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 3: one went there was the game last year. A lot 1492 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 3: more people in the games, the ticket sale guy, you know. 1493 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 4: And so I think, so I think that that to 1494 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 4: your journey where we were running separate businesses and uh, 1495 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 4: we we had like we both owned the business. So 1496 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 4: there was like it was mutually beneficial for us to 1497 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 4: succeed uh in in both areas. But then like when 1498 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 4: we came back and got to run openers together, like 1499 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 4: I got to use my strengths, Blake got to use 1500 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 4: his strengths, and we also got to see kind of like, hey, 1501 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 4: you're really good at those things and I'm really good 1502 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 4: at these things, and that's what we should do. So 1503 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 4: I think when when you can sort of understand and 1504 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 4: respect each other's strengths and then double down those things, 1505 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 4: that's when you can have a really good partnership or. 1506 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 3: A good like strength. Not everyone plays quarterback, right, yeah, 1507 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 3: like you got to have a kicker. Yeah, okay, when 1508 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 3: the kicker is making all the money. That's what's going 1509 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 3: on here. 1510 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 4: But we've had I mean we've had we've also I 1511 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 4: would say, I would also say we've had we've had our. 1512 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 2: Like give me, give me a. 1513 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Give me a moment in time you guys are probably 1514 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: both thinking about and Neil Nog and where it was 1515 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: like rough sledding between your guys' partnership and friendship to 1516 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: where it's like hey, who's doing this? Like I you know, 1517 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: you had to navigate waters and learn about yourself to 1518 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, now we're finding these strengths of 1519 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: each other, not like you were good at this over 1520 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: in your job. 1521 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm good at this. We both figured it out down 1522 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 2: our way. 1523 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 4: Like I think it was like early on it was 1524 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 4: just so as I tell the story, it feels clean 1525 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 4: like it all happened like that, but it didn't. It 1526 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 4: was like we have to go through the learning pains 1527 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 4: of understanding that and then you reflect and you kind 1528 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 4: of look back at it. But like, I don't know 1529 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 4: if there was like a moment in time where I'm 1530 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 4: just like me and him, will we definitely do get 1531 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 4: in arguments right where. 1532 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 2: You know we see the bantering. I can see yeah, no. 1533 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 4: We do like, yeah, fun this, you know, we'll we'll 1534 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 4: have that. But I think that's what that's what's good 1535 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 4: about it. I think I always tell Blake the best 1536 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 4: times are when he is not in the weeds of 1537 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 4: the business right because he likes to come in and 1538 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 4: disrupt and the ideas are good, but like sometimes you 1539 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 4: need to let things kind of flow and you let 1540 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 4: need to trust the team. We'll kind of get there. 1541 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 4: And then same thing like sometimes he can come in 1542 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 4: and like it can actually help that department or that team, 1543 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 4: so it works really well. I'm just saying, like, here's 1544 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 4: what happens. Like I have like twenty ideas a day, right, 1545 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 4: and like I go in, dude, go yeah, I go 1546 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 4: do it all. This is a good one. And like 1547 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 4: I walk out of there and like I'm like. 1548 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 3: Dang, dude, I think already liked that idea, and like 1549 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 3: you can like look over your shoulder and he's just 1550 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 3: ripping up the paper. You know, He's like okay, because 1551 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 3: I'll forget about it by the time I walk out 1552 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 3: the door. That's right. That's that's what it is to 1553 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 3: like have a balance, you know, because every person how 1554 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 3: many people since you had your first recording of a 1555 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 3: podcast have started a podcast? Well it's how many, dude, millions? Yea, 1556 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 3: and they don't get to episode three, right because you 1557 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 3: got there's the difference between people who have things and 1558 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 3: people who want things or people who do things. You 1559 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, You are doing this. I remember 1560 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 3: when you called and said I'm gonna do a podcast, right, 1561 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 3: and I was like, hell, yeah, Like when you get 1562 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 3: it going, let me know, because like, dude, everyone now 1563 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 3: being founders, you're a founder, entrepreneur, like people probably coming 1564 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 3: with you all to odd, I'm gonna do this. I'm 1565 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 3: gonna do this. I'm gonna do this, and like you 1566 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 3: check in out, I'm doing it. 1567 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:50,640 Speaker 2: You do this. 1568 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 3: Like I'll tell you when our very first company, we 1569 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 3: were having beers over it. Remember right was it Turtle Creek, 1570 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, all the turtle creaking Lincoln. And I'm over 1571 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 3: at Audi's and we're having a six pack and we're 1572 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 3: just you know, about to crush and go down O 1573 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 3: Street and Audie's like, yo, dude, going into senior year. 1574 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 3: He's sitting there, He's like, hey, man, I don't want 1575 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 3: to I don't want to work for anybody. Like what 1576 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 3: what should we do after I'm done playing ball? 1577 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 2: What should we do? 1578 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 3: Because we were always idea dudes, you know. And I'm 1579 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 3: like I don't know, man, I'm doing this like social 1580 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 3: media thing, like I was getting paid to tweet for 1581 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 3: a company, you know, like that was my job as 1582 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 3: an intern. And I was like I don't think I 1583 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 3: would do so not just for this one company, but 1584 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 3: for everybody. And like we started bullshit and going back 1585 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 3: and forth and like we just finished the six go 1586 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 3: down to the rail and forget the night. Right the 1587 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 3: next morning, I wake up groggy, and I checked my 1588 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 3: email and box and Audio sent me a one page 1589 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 3: business plan. He said, let's do it. That's why we started. 1590 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 3: Heard at if if if he doesn't exist, that's an idea. 1591 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 3: That's that's a six pack and the night on O 1592 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 3: Street and just and a rager at the rail. You're 1593 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 3: probably there, shirt off back of the club. Yeah, man, guy, 1594 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,719 Speaker 3: you would on the side, you would, you would. 1595 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 4: I am fully convinced that COVID started in the back 1596 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 4: of the rail like somewhere somewhere in there. 1597 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Just not not not a good place. 1598 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 7: Shout out Georgia Boot, the world's most comfortable boot. Georgia 1599 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 7: Butt is America's hardest working boot. 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So I'm I'm low key with 1621 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 1: my like young spirit as well, like always asking like hey, like. 1622 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 2: What are you doing? And he's talking about I remember 1623 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 2: when you brought up Twitter diaries. 1624 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, my Twitter diary. 1625 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you thought it was going to be a hitter too, 1626 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: A dude, You're like, you know, people could look back 1627 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: at their tweets like he's had idea like you do. 1628 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 3: You're like aary my Twitter diary dot com. I can't 1629 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 3: get access to the domain, but basically take your tweets 1630 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 3: and turn into a hard copy book, put it on 1631 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 3: your coffee table. 1632 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 1633 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 3: He was actually gonna do that fourteen ninety nine, my 1634 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 3: Twitter diary dot com, Uh just getting no shots. Yeah, 1635 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 3: don't go there, it's broken. Yeah, but no, that's what 1636 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,560 Speaker 3: you Everyone has ideas. Man, you got to go do it. 1637 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 3: You gotta go do it. And like right now we're 1638 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 3: sitting here, like we have sixty nine employees at Openers 1639 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 3: sixty nine and those are people like that their livelihood 1640 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 3: depends on like this. 1641 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good number. We're not hiring any same. Well, no, 1642 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying what he's saying. It's yeah, yeah, 1643 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 4: I would say, well, because so the way I think 1644 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 4: about it is like most like great businesses, like the 1645 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 4: idea initially sounds dumb at first. 1646 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 3: It just always how it is. Right, So, whether it's 1647 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 3: my Twitter diary or or when we. 1648 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Were bussing with the boys, felt dumb as ship. 1649 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that, but then it becomes really trendy. 1650 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 4: Like when we first started our company, I don't think 1651 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 4: we were ever saying, oh, we want to be entrepreneur. 1652 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 4: I don't think that the word entrepreneur was like a 1653 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 4: thing back then. It was like we're going to try 1654 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 4: to solve a problem. Yeah, and we're gonna run, We're 1655 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 4: gonna build a business exactly. Then you get another one, 1656 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 4: and then entrepreneurship as a word became trendy. Everybody wants 1657 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,839 Speaker 4: to be an entrepreneur, right, same thing, yeah, exactly. 1658 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 3: That that made it made everyone like, oh man, I'm 1659 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 3: just going to go in there, and you know, mister 1660 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 3: wonderful isn't give me all this money? Yeah, Like dude, 1661 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,839 Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Right? Same thing with podcasts. 1662 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 3: I think podcasts are super trendy right now. 1663 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 4: Everybody wants to start a podcast, but to actually have 1664 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 4: an operation to create true like engagement entertainment, the business 1665 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 4: model behind it, like the licensing the merchandise, like that 1666 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,799 Speaker 4: takes actual skill set and effort and strategy and planning. 1667 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 4: That's the whole thing that place is talking about. Like 1668 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 4: you have to go actually do it. But when we 1669 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,599 Speaker 4: were starting, we're like, hey, let's just solve a problem. Yeah, 1670 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 4: and see how many people have that problem? Is anyone? 1671 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Is anyone else doing anything about it already? And like 1672 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 3: like how can we get it going? 1673 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? What for you guys? 1674 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Like getting stuff going and off the floor, Like for 1675 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: people out there that like have ideas and they want 1676 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 1: to learn about like growing business like me in particular, 1677 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: like you guys have both mentored me Audi more so 1678 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,600 Speaker 1: than like. 1679 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 5: For you. 1680 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't, dude, bro, you always give me good ideas. 1681 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: But it is true the way you guys, the way 1682 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,799 Speaker 1: you guys do talk about your dynamic in the office 1683 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 1: is like I feel like the dynamic of mentoring I 1684 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: get as well, Like we have ideas and if I 1685 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: need to go to like execute and put operating stuff 1686 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,719 Speaker 1: into plays always. 1687 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,240 Speaker 3: If you want to actually make real money and like 1688 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 3: scale things, you come to me. If you want to 1689 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 3: get distracted teachings of Will I turn on television on 1690 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 3: Sundays and I say, taught him everything. 1691 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 2: He knows he does. He tries to ride that all 1692 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 2: the time. 1693 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 3: Well it's true, man, you're on the bench most of 1694 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 3: the time. 1695 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 2: Do you have that one photo? Mean on the bench? 1696 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 3: Hyeah, give that one photo? Man, I was really good 1697 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,840 Speaker 3: at standing on the sidelines too. Taught you everything you 1698 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 3: know with. 1699 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,719 Speaker 1: With uh starting getting all this stuff off the ground, 1700 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: like outside of schooling and education. Like me, a lot 1701 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: of my stuff that I get is through books or 1702 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: through like mentoring, like you guys, like asking people who 1703 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: are doing things that I would like to do or 1704 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 1: pick their brain? Like what types of uh tips or 1705 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 1: advice do you have for people like that? Like where 1706 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 1: did you figure out a lot of this operating stuff? 1707 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: Is it always through school or is there books? Is 1708 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 1: there philosophy? Like what are some of the learnings that 1709 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: you've had? 1710 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 2: Well? 1711 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 3: I think first you need to figure out whatever, what's 1712 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 3: your like learning vehicle? 1713 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 4: How do you learn? And what I mean by that 1714 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 4: is like do you learn by reading books? Do you 1715 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 4: learn by talking to people? Do you learn by doing? 1716 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 4: Do you learn by watching? 1717 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 6: Like? 1718 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 4: So once you figure that out, because some people are like, oh, well, 1719 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go read a bunch of books, I'm like, well, 1720 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 4: what do you do with that information? 1721 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,559 Speaker 3: Are you able to actually apply it or whatnot? 1722 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 4: Like I my most exciting times and still to this day, 1723 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,560 Speaker 4: is when we set very ambitious, aggressive goals for a 1724 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 4: quarter where I'm asked to do something that we've literally 1725 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 4: never done before, because I get to go through my 1726 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 4: learning process, which is I'll go dive in on a 1727 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 4: let's say we want to build a certain strategy that 1728 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 4: we've literally never done before. I like to go and 1729 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 4: read a bunch of material on that thing, and I 1730 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 4: might buy two or three books. I'm not going to 1731 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 4: read them from front to back, but just pattern matching 1732 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 4: that stuff, applying it, getting the right people to buy in. 1733 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,719 Speaker 3: Like I just enjoy that experience. 1734 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 4: And it's been like that, like even in the early 1735 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 4: days when we're like, hey, we don't have a we 1736 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 4: don't have an HR process, when we get like five employees, 1737 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 4: or hey we need to we need to go fire somebody. 1738 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,680 Speaker 4: And for me, I'm like, Okay, well I want to 1739 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 4: do it the right way. I want to be prepared 1740 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 4: so I can execute this the right way, so then 1741 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 4: I'll go through that process. 1742 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean no, I'm just saying, like, like 1743 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 3: today we're flying in Nashville and I asked all you 1744 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 3: a question, like and he pulls out a book that 1745 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 3: like looks like an old tattered like Bible, you know, 1746 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 3: and he's got writing in the columns, he's got highlighted, 1747 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 3: he's got posted notes in it, and like this dude 1748 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 3: ingests information, stores it and can pull it up like 1749 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 3: a like a you know, encyclopedia, like a Wikipedia page 1750 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 3: like and but he learns from reading and applying and 1751 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 3: then applying, you know. 1752 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, you were talking about pattern matching. What do 1753 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 2: you mean by pattern matching. 1754 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 4: It's it's like you're not supposed to For example, like 1755 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 4: if you want to become really good at investing, you're 1756 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 4: not going to go read a bunch of investment books 1757 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 4: because they're just going to have like principles. It's like 1758 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 4: just being back in school again. It's better for you 1759 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 4: to look at case studies of people that have done 1760 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 4: great investments, or companies that have gone through some or 1761 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 4: historical things that are maybe super niche or a specific 1762 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 4: subject like I don't know history on a certain vertical. 1763 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 4: That's way better than to go and just try to 1764 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 4: learn the fundamentals, because that's just that's so educational. That 1765 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 4: doesn't So when I say pattern matching, I'm like, okay, 1766 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,440 Speaker 4: we as a company right now, we have seventy employees 1767 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 4: and we sixty nine employees. 1768 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 3: He loves that. 1769 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,600 Speaker 4: He said we shouldn't hire anybody for a while, so 1770 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 4: we have sixty nine employees. I'm like, are you five 1771 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 4: years old or what? But anyways, so then I'm like, okay, 1772 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 4: I'll look at like where do we want to be, right, 1773 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 4: I'll look at where where do we want to be 1774 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 4: as a company? And then I will go and find 1775 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 4: and and talk sometimes to certain people who have literally 1776 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 4: gone through that process and done it before. So I 1777 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 4: just have validation in my thinking and I have way 1778 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 4: more confidence in all the decisions that we make. 1779 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 1: Like you're basically like a quote that you've actually told 1780 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 1: me two success leaves clues. 1781 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're just finding a blue that's right, and 1782 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 2: then you just have matching the. 1783 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 3: Pattern absolutely, and you have your own spin to it 1784 01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 3: and whatnot. 1785 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 4: But like, imagine every choice that you make, the more 1786 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,640 Speaker 4: confident that you can be in it, that you have 1787 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,679 Speaker 4: the self assurance, you're like way more decisive. That's speed, dude, 1788 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 4: because then you don't you're not hesitating like, oh, I 1789 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 4: don't know if we should do this. It's like it's 1790 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 4: all about speed, dude, And especially for us, like right now, 1791 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,720 Speaker 4: it's like you should choose speed over efficiency in the 1792 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 4: face of uncertainty. And that's literally what we're going through, 1793 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 4: which is like we got to go really fast. We 1794 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 4: want to win the market. We feel like we're a 1795 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,120 Speaker 4: leader and we want to own that, and so we 1796 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 4: don't really have time to be like, well, what if 1797 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 4: it doesn't work, or maybe we shouldn't do this it's 1798 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 4: about going. 1799 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,599 Speaker 3: To town for a perspective. Well, the first two months 1800 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 3: of July, we have tripled the amount of business in 1801 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 3: one of our products than all of last year in 1802 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 3: the first two weeks of this month. Like I'm telling 1803 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 3: like that's insane, right, Like I'm into Like a year ago, 1804 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 3: there was fifteen thousand athletes that use Now there's fifty thousand. 1805 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,639 Speaker 3: Were you go, dude, I love that? Man ya well 1806 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 3: god damn yeah, you know. 1807 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,759 Speaker 1: Me too, Well, yeah, you will just retaining the information 1808 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: And that's his reaction, mouth open fuck dude. 1809 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like that's that's the real deal. Hey, you 1810 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,839 Speaker 3: know me, Like we hired twenty seven Audi hired fifteen 1811 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 3: people in the last like sixty days, fifteen people. We 1812 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 3: got to hire eight more in the next thirty, right, 1813 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 3: and and like that that is all. That's a lot, right, 1814 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,559 Speaker 3: Like you think about that's a person. That's the life 1815 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 3: they get to get them to commit believe, breathe like 1816 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 3: and and like that's the type Like you move fast 1817 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 3: sometimes because market opportunities are market opportunities, and like we 1818 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 3: have a chance to help every athlete right now, that's 1819 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 3: what we do, you know, And you talk about learning 1820 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 3: behavior like, how do I want to Can I get 1821 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 3: my fair shake? 1822 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 5: Yes? 1823 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 1824 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1825 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, cool. Nod's talking about he's a philosopher. 1826 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,440 Speaker 3: It's like a LinkedIn advertisement. 1827 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 4: Man, Yeah he is alier. Dude, I love that that's 1828 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 4: a philosophier. Let's go geb Is. I don't know how 1829 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 4: you learn, Blake, Well, once you walk. I went through 1830 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:57,639 Speaker 4: that because I know I'm. 1831 01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Maybe he would benefit audio benefit. 1832 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna start talking and 1833 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 3: then I'll find my way to how I learned. Yeah. Yeah, 1834 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 3: I would say, like, will. 1835 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:07,719 Speaker 2: Do you have a book? 1836 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 3: Like have you written a book? 1837 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 2: I read a book? 1838 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 3: You have not written a book? 1839 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 2: Written a book? 1840 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 3: No, but you know you've learned a thing or two, right, 1841 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 3: and so like one of the things is if you 1842 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 3: think about your favorite people that have taught you so much, 1843 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 3: like have they written a book? 1844 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 1845 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 1: They have the favorite people who've taught me stuff like 1846 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 1: the thing about has has It's like I'm sitting here 1847 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: read Compton the second written a book. 1848 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, but you've learned a lot from 1849 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,640 Speaker 3: that man, right, Like what I'm trying to say here, yeah, right, 1850 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 3: And that would be the top seller. 1851 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeh, bous on the process. 1852 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 3: Compete every day, dude, That's that's the myma. 1853 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:44,639 Speaker 6: Nos. 1854 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,640 Speaker 2: You open it up and it's focused on the process. 1855 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,439 Speaker 3: And like a hundred slides of the same thing, same thing. No, 1856 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 3: But I like, so what I'm trying to say is 1857 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 3: that there's there's a lot of things that I learned 1858 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 3: from people. Right, I want to go find another founder 1859 01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 3: that has been in a similar situation where like maybe 1860 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,919 Speaker 3: they're running low on cash, they got a big market opportunity, 1861 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 3: They're head of marketing is about to quit, and they 1862 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 3: got to get a you know, five new people to 1863 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,560 Speaker 3: come in and try and fill his position, right, And like, 1864 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,519 Speaker 3: I don't know where you find that in a book, 1865 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 3: but if you go and like talk to five founders, 1866 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 3: like they're gonna three of them are going to have 1867 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 3: a situation that was at least similar, like you know, 1868 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:21,600 Speaker 3: and and most people have a similar experience. If you like, 1869 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,880 Speaker 3: strip away the industry, strip away the actual problems, and 1870 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 3: just say, hey, here's the emotion I'm feeling. Have you 1871 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 3: felt that emotion? Tell me about the time in which 1872 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 3: you felt that emotion. How did you get through it? 1873 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,680 Speaker 3: You know, because another part of this business stuff is like, yeah, 1874 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,719 Speaker 3: there's exce's and no's, but there's the like the Johnny's 1875 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 3: and Joe's. Right, that's that would be in's book too, right. 1876 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,120 Speaker 2: No solid, you should just stood on it. 1877 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 3: Actually yeah, but I'll take it. But there are there's 1878 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,680 Speaker 3: those things that a lot of building a business or 1879 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,640 Speaker 3: building anything is it's deeply emotional, right, like it is 1880 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 3: you're invested in this thing. It's a part of you. 1881 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 3: So you can go talk to people that can tell 1882 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,400 Speaker 3: you how they felt when they went through something similar. 1883 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 3: Then you can extract like that too, because a lot 1884 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 3: of it is like just reassurance like am I doing like? 1885 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 3: Am I doing this right? 1886 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 2: Like? 1887 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,240 Speaker 3: Am I am I think in the right way? Like 1888 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 3: are we treating people the right way? And like at 1889 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 3: least you can learn from other people's experience, which maybe 1890 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 3: you just can't extract that from a book, right, So you. 1891 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Do a good job of navigating finding the right people 1892 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 1: have probably been through a similar. 1893 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 3: Exp I love talking about you, look up to you. Yeah, 1894 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,639 Speaker 3: I love about man, and I audio knows that dude. 1895 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 3: I'll get on a call with somebody like and they're 1896 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 3: just just like one little tidbit saying oh, man, did 1897 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 3: you know what this dude did, Like he sold his 1898 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 3: company for twenty million, you know, and and here's what 1899 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 3: he did when they were in this situation. And like, dang, 1900 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 3: that's crazy because that dude's never going to write a 1901 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 3: book and put that story in there. But now I 1902 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 3: have that story that can like inspire me to try 1903 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 3: something like that too. 1904 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 2: That's right, that's good. 1905 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned it is. 1906 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like also like the things that 1907 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,799 Speaker 4: we really care about. Like so for me, for example, 1908 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,680 Speaker 4: we talked about hiring. So I think that building a 1909 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 4: team is more of an art than a science. 1910 01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 2: Right. 1911 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 4: But somebody who doesn't really care about hiring or recruiting, 1912 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 4: which is a very difficult thing to do, right, Like 1913 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,600 Speaker 4: you building a team, this is a very hard thing 1914 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 4: to do. These guys have to they have to give 1915 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 4: a shit. They have to have ownership mentality. They have 1916 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 4: to show up when you're not here, They have to 1917 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,640 Speaker 4: set things up, they have to care about what you 1918 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 4: guys are trying to build for it to look and 1919 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 4: feel and turn out great, that has to be the 1920 01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,680 Speaker 4: right team. And for me, that is an art, Like 1921 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 4: I can get on an interview Blake, Blake will be 1922 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 4: part of interviews with some people and he'll like, yeah, 1923 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 4: that person was great. 1924 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 3: I'm like no, like because to me, it's more of 1925 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 3: an art. 1926 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 4: I'm literally interpreting everything that's going on, how they're answering 1927 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 4: certain questions, how they showed up, like what they said 1928 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,560 Speaker 4: their background was. And that's because it's something that I 1929 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 4: care about. 1930 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:41,639 Speaker 2: Now. 1931 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,400 Speaker 4: There might be some other things that are a little 1932 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 4: bit more of a science where it is more about 1933 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 4: the principles or sort of the rules around and whatnot, 1934 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 4: But like, you are definitely more of a anybody. 1935 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1936 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like hell yeah, there's a five star you know. 1937 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 3: It's like that guy, he's a walk on you, but 1938 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,920 Speaker 3: you wanted to work here, you know, Like the vision 1939 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 3: like he sees it like higher him. He's like he 1940 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 3: wants to wear that in on his Yeah yeah yeah, 1941 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,720 Speaker 3: that's like yeah, you know for sure like that is. 1942 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 3: But to me, I that's what that's the balance though, 1943 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 3: you know, because for me, anybody that believes in a second, 1944 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 3: like in the Vision, I'm like, get on board, do 1945 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 3: let's go. You know, I want to win the game. 1946 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm saying, Like, you gotta you gotta 1947 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 3: build a team. Yeah, that's right, that's right. 1948 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for you, what's winning the game? 1949 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 3: Uh well, so I think about building a team, and 1950 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,760 Speaker 3: for him, like what's winning the game? Yeah that's a 1951 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 3: cool question. 1952 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he said that. I'm just saying I was. 1953 01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 4: I was more talking about in context of like building 1954 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 4: a team. But if you asked me what went in, 1955 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 4: that's that is a deep question. 1956 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: I know. We we'll say, we'll sit back and talk 1957 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: about this ship all the time. All of us will 1958 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 1: just kind of sit around because you just have different angles. 1959 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:50,960 Speaker 3: Like what's the game for you the most? 1960 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know fully yet. 1961 01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:01,960 Speaker 1: Like for me, it's all in like it's broken up, right, 1962 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: it's just broken up into different priorities. I feel like 1963 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 1: winning the game for me right now career wise, like 1964 01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: I'm currently getting to do that. And I guess seeing 1965 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,679 Speaker 1: this through and I guess what's seeing it through means 1966 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 1: to me is I don't know, Because every every year, 1967 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 1: probably every six months, we might see another level of potential. 1968 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 1: We're starting to get into our tap into that we 1969 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,760 Speaker 1: had no idea, that we had really no idea that 1970 01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 1: it was coming. And so then you fall in love 1971 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,880 Speaker 1: with something different that's going on with it. Man, that's 1972 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 1: such a good question, dude, it is. 1973 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 4: It's a great question because it's hard to answer because 1974 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 4: I think if you are way too set in what 1975 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,759 Speaker 4: your answer is, I don't know if you're trying hard enough. 1976 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 1: Right right, right right, because you feel like, oh, I 1977 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 1: won't know. 1978 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 4: You want it to be fluid, Like you know any 1979 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 4: entrepreneur that's or let's say you're running a business and 1980 01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, the end game is, don't want to 1981 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 4: sell this company. I'm like, dude, you're not going to succeed. 1982 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, right, because you're already thinking about an exit, right, 1983 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,120 Speaker 4: and there might be a time where you should think 1984 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 4: about that, but like you'll know when it's the right 1985 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 4: time to think about that. But like, if you start 1986 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,559 Speaker 4: something with an exit in mind, how are you supposed 1987 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 4: to actually make that thing great? 1988 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Hey? 1989 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 3: But here's right thing, hey yeah. 1990 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 4: Hey. 1991 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,880 Speaker 3: One of my favorite things is all advice is autobiographical. 1992 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 3: You're just talking to yourself in the past, because like 1993 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:25,639 Speaker 3: somebody's listening. 1994 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:26,559 Speaker 2: Like no, I started to slow down. 1995 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Autobiographic, Like all advice is autobiographicals and like you're just 1996 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 3: talking to yourself in the past, Like, if you ask 1997 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 3: me for advice, I'm all I can do is reflect 1998 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,639 Speaker 3: on my life, right, And it's as if I'm looking 1999 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 3: at myself in the past and myself asked me the 2000 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,519 Speaker 3: same question, Like I'm just talking to myself. Anyone you 2001 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,760 Speaker 3: ever ask for advice in the life, they're just talking 2002 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,879 Speaker 3: to themselves, right, and they're just trying to find something familiar. 2003 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 3: And if you're asking for advice from somebody that's never 2004 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 3: been in your position, like why are you asking them 2005 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 3: for advice anyways? Right, So all advice is autobiographical. So 2006 01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 3: somebody's listening, it's like you, no, I started a company 2007 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,559 Speaker 3: with the goal to sell it, and they sold it, right, 2008 01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,559 Speaker 3: And that person is always going to say, yeah, hey, 2009 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,599 Speaker 3: if you start something without a goal sell it, then 2010 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 3: what are you doing? 2011 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 1: You know? 2012 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 3: Like what we get to talk about and our our 2013 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,040 Speaker 3: journeys is we're in the middle of it, you know, 2014 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 3: and we'll be able to say what success is are 2015 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 3: the way to success will be in our eyes what 2016 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 3: we did right, But there's never the same path to 2017 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 3: the same outcome. And I just I just think about 2018 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,519 Speaker 3: that sometimes because like I know that you and I 2019 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 3: just you set a big hairy, audacious goal. Right, you 2020 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 3: say you want to help every athlete, And I was like, so, 2021 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,680 Speaker 3: what's what's success for you guys? You know it's like 2022 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,600 Speaker 3: we'll have has have we literally helped every athlete like 2023 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 3: has has every athlete in the planet downloaded open doors 2024 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,639 Speaker 3: and used this tool? Oh no, there's another one. Okay, 2025 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 3: not there yet, right, So like it's just like the 2026 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,120 Speaker 3: pursuit of an impossible goal is ultimately gonna Like that 2027 01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,800 Speaker 3: is to me that what this journey is, like whatrepreneurship is. 2028 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too, like the identity you build like 2029 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,679 Speaker 1: in it, like all the principles and stuff you've talked about, 2030 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Like even if that goal doesn't hit. So say my 2031 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 1: goal is you know, ten years in the NFL, and 2032 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 1: I don't get ten years in the NFL, it's like, 2033 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 1: well you lost the game. 2034 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 2: It's like, well, I mean I'm still in the game. 2035 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Like that's just the game has changed for me. 2036 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:19,280 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, you know. 2037 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,720 Speaker 1: What I mean. I feel like whatever you build from 2038 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 1: the inside, like going and working inside out, like all 2039 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: the why stuff, all the cliche why stuff that we 2040 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,559 Speaker 1: talk about, like who you are I guess as a person, 2041 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 1: like you just filtered to a different game every time. 2042 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,519 Speaker 2: I don't know what the fucking end game is. 2043 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think I don't think you need 2044 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 3: to have one. Man. 2045 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 4: I think life should be more fluid, it should be 2046 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,880 Speaker 4: just kind of you should enjoy it. You should strive 2047 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 4: for big things. You should surround yourself with great people 2048 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 4: and actually like and with family and enjoy life and 2049 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 4: enjoy the journey. I don't think you need to have 2050 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 4: an end goal. And maybe one day you wake up 2051 01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 4: or you have one, and that's great, good for you. 2052 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 4: It's like, that's that's maybe what the disclaimer, right. It's 2053 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:02,880 Speaker 4: like we're all like we're all sharing things about like 2054 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 4: what we have experienced or maybe heard from other people 2055 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 4: that have been appealing. When they share them with us, 2056 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh that's cool. You know, like I'll I'll 2057 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 4: have someone tell me a story, I will change my 2058 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,800 Speaker 4: mind about something. I'm like, okay, I'm like, oh great, 2059 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,920 Speaker 4: that's I'm not There's there's nothing that I'm completely set on. 2060 01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:18,600 Speaker 1: You know. 2061 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 4: Sometimes people will have convictions or whether it's like a 2062 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 4: political view or religion or I don't know, whatever it is, 2063 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,600 Speaker 4: and I'm like, damn, you're that's set on that. 2064 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:28,559 Speaker 3: Give us examples. 2065 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 6: What are you. 2066 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 3: That's craziest religious thought? Some clips really hurt you. No, 2067 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,680 Speaker 3: that's could you say some things we could blackmail you? 2068 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that's that is. 2069 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 4: I think that's a We should all have a disclaimer 2070 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 4: under everything we say or recommend, and it I mean that. 2071 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. You said, like, I'm just trying 2072 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:54,160 Speaker 2: to win the game. 2073 01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Obviously you were talking about it from the art standpoint 2074 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,479 Speaker 1: of hiring somebody in the process that you're seeing through 2075 01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,400 Speaker 1: because it's team building. 2076 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,680 Speaker 2: What is what is winning the game mean to you? 2077 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, then you threw it at me and I 2078 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:04,679 Speaker 2: had no fucking clue. 2079 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, got him, hey, let me Yeah, 2080 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,840 Speaker 3: there you go. It's realistic. 2081 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 1: A way. 2082 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah it man, that's that's your book you've been trying 2083 01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 2: to get me on. Yeah, that's the book. We've been 2084 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 2: giving him some love. 2085 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 1: Tim Grover winning the book winning because it's like when 2086 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 1: we're twenty three, Like when I'm twenty three, to. 2087 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,400 Speaker 2: Me, winning is like playing in the NFL. 2088 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I knew I wasn't going to be 2089 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 1: like a high rounder, it's like, oh, let me just 2090 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:35,679 Speaker 1: get a couple of years in the NFL. 2091 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, and that's like winning the game. 2092 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,439 Speaker 3: But like you no, it's not. 2093 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 2: I think that like the. 2094 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 3: Pursuit of some of those things, like you know, you're 2095 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 3: the same, like how much is enough? And the answers 2096 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 3: are just a little bit more, you know what I'm saying, 2097 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,599 Speaker 3: Like the answer like when you have that next thing, 2098 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 3: you want that next thing, and so like it's a 2099 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,479 Speaker 3: you spend so much time chasing something you don't realize 2100 01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 3: like when you have it because you keep going. Right, 2101 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,880 Speaker 3: Like again, we've raised twenty million dollars for this company, right, 2102 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 3: and I remember when we first raised our first like 2103 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 3: somebody wrote a twenty thousand oars check. I'm like, god dang, 2104 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 3: And I met I met at another founder that had 2105 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,160 Speaker 3: raised twenty million dollars. I'm like, good lord, Like we 2106 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 3: just got it all figured out, you know, figured it out, 2107 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,479 Speaker 3: all figured out. Then you're sitting there with twenty million 2108 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:20,720 Speaker 3: and you're like looking at the dude, thiss got two 2109 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,640 Speaker 3: hundred and you're like, to just got it all figured out. 2110 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,800 Speaker 3: Then you eventually realize it nobody hasn't figured out. 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Oh Rea, I've 2149 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,519 Speaker 2: always I've always tried getting in. 2150 01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,000 Speaker 3: I know you you've the time deserved to get in 2151 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:29,120 Speaker 3: and said, I've. 2152 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,599 Speaker 1: Been a guinea pig, Like you've tried making content for me. Hey, 2153 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,560 Speaker 1: let's do this, okay, Like when do I get to 2154 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:33,800 Speaker 1: get in? 2155 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Like you know you don't want to get in this. 2156 01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 3: Guzzy Yeah no, no, no, Hey, hey, here's the deal. 2157 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,120 Speaker 1: You know you don't want to get in this dang 2158 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 1: doggy And I'm just like, all right, I guess we 2159 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,680 Speaker 1: can't have a serious coming Doggy Yeah, that's the way 2160 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 1: to handle like this. It just starts getting Yeah, Doggy, 2161 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,679 Speaker 1: you don't want to get in this thang bag. Really, 2162 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,120 Speaker 1: you know the an emoji thing on iPhone. Will would 2163 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 1: only send me videos him as the Dinosaur and like, Doggy. 2164 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 3: Can I put money in? I'm like, dude, yeah, this 2165 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,960 Speaker 3: is the type of investor. Yea the Dinosaur man, No, 2166 01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,519 Speaker 3: I do. So you're in. You're an angel investor like 2167 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,040 Speaker 3: William Earle Compton, the third and angel in my life. 2168 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:17,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 2169 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 2: It sounds nice. 2170 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 3: It is, dude, it is nice, But like the reality is, like, hey, 2171 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 3: when you went to the league, you you said, hey, 2172 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,360 Speaker 3: that five thousand dollars got a stretch? Like I have 2173 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,840 Speaker 3: never ever wanted to take money out of your pocket, 2174 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,200 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, I always want to 2175 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,479 Speaker 3: put it in right and and like that's the thing 2176 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:34,760 Speaker 3: is that. 2177 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 2: You never did. 2178 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 3: But I know, I know you're here. 2179 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,479 Speaker 1: Are these guys are gonna start paying me for the tweets? 2180 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2181 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,559 Speaker 2: We are now, Yeah I get some money. 2182 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 3: No, But the truth is that you know, these athletes 2183 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,400 Speaker 3: they go through and they get to that next level, 2184 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,320 Speaker 3: they get that first paycheck and like oh man, you 2185 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,080 Speaker 3: should open up a subway franchise all clothing line time, 2186 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 3: Like everyone's trying to get in their pockets and like hey, yeah, 2187 01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,439 Speaker 3: let's do that, let's do that, let's do that, and 2188 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,800 Speaker 3: like none that stuff pans out right, So like I 2189 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 3: never felt comfortable saying like, hey, yeah, we should take 2190 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,800 Speaker 3: in like money from athletes that we know that our 2191 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,600 Speaker 3: entire mission is to help you, right, But what I 2192 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,760 Speaker 3: know to be true is that your investment open doors 2193 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,000 Speaker 3: is gonna pay dividends, Like you're gonna it's gonna be 2194 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,639 Speaker 3: worth it, like we but we have validated and works. 2195 01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of people that right now just 2196 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,880 Speaker 3: heard about open doors for the first time. O P 2197 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,719 Speaker 3: E N D O R s E dot com open Doors. Okay, 2198 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna hear for the first time right now, and 2199 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's a great idea, you know, and 2200 01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,839 Speaker 3: it's gonna be like, oh, it's a it's an overnight success. 2201 01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 3: We've been doing this for ten years, dude, We've been 2202 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,800 Speaker 3: doing this for ten years. And like anybody that says 2203 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,360 Speaker 3: that this is easy and it happened fast like that, 2204 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,760 Speaker 3: they're wrong, right, But now we have valid enough it's like, yeah, 2205 01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 3: you can give us some of your money because I'm 2206 01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,599 Speaker 3: gonna get you a twenty x thirty x fifty x return. 2207 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 2: Let's fucking go, let's code. 2208 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,360 Speaker 3: Let's go there, especially once you get that little intro 2209 01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 3: video of you explaining how to how open doorse works. 2210 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do need to meet make like a piece 2211 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: of cool content like how it works, like if there's 2212 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,280 Speaker 1: a way to like walk through and all you got 2213 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,720 Speaker 1: to do, We'll just saying but I'm saying visually too, 2214 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,400 Speaker 1: like you like you go something, Hey, We'll make something cool, 2215 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:11,400 Speaker 1: something cool. 2216 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,640 Speaker 3: If you don't, I mean, hey, like real quick, how 2217 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,559 Speaker 3: are we doing on time? Like I know that that's 2218 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 3: not my job to do any of this ship, but 2219 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 3: are we good? 2220 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 2: Like you guys, I mean we're he's just talking about 2221 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 2: time like on this podcast. 2222 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to make sure like if you 2223 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,880 Speaker 3: want to get stories out, like we've we've talked like 2224 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:32,160 Speaker 3: super hypothetical stuff, right, There's not been many tangible stories 2225 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,599 Speaker 3: about anything in this podcast. Yeah, I mean I'm sorry, 2226 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm just like, yeah, I just know what people 2227 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 3: listen to, Like I would listen to us talk about 2228 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,600 Speaker 3: hypotheticals of this and I don't know. I just know 2229 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:51,439 Speaker 3: that there's stories to be told too. All right, Cool, 2230 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,320 Speaker 3: that's the blood flowing down. I'll get it, dude, I 2231 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 3: get it. I'm just like a good filter. Yeah, I mean, 2232 01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:57,160 Speaker 3: this is what you do. 2233 01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:58,200 Speaker 1: You know. 2234 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,479 Speaker 3: So I'm on my front like, sorry, show, but it's 2235 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 3: obvious that be. 2236 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,880 Speaker 2: Like, hey, what do you know? It's the boy. Somebody 2237 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 2: said something? Uh Alex said urgent? Something urgent. 2238 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll respond after Yeah, yeah we got flag for 2239 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 1: that bullshit. 2240 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,320 Speaker 2: I'll telling about it earlier. 2241 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:27,280 Speaker 3: What I don't want to yeah yeah, yeah, on he explain. 2242 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 3: Please let's add more content to that. 2243 01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you guys have anything like you you guys, 2244 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys have any questions, whether it's 2245 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 1: a story or just anything that we've all talked about 2246 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 1: or they've all talked about. 2247 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 6: Deal you've seen for an athlete so far, Like what's 2248 01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,760 Speaker 6: the most amount of money a college kid has made? 2249 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 3: Or do you think what do you think? 2250 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:46,840 Speaker 2: Are you allowed to say that? 2251 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't talk about like specifics. 2252 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 2: Can you we just say player X? 2253 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2254 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,400 Speaker 1: Are we allowed to just bag what is a college 2255 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 1: player made? And you just say, like like something that's 2256 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 1: been crazy? 2257 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,519 Speaker 3: We can talk in aggregates, We can talk about. 2258 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,160 Speaker 2: You guys been doing a lot of Bullshiti word. 2259 01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,040 Speaker 5: You should just have a dictionary right next to you. 2260 01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,719 Speaker 5: And just like we can talk about aggregates. Hey, fuck 2261 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:20,439 Speaker 5: you man, don't talk about aggreg Yeah, this is Tennessee. Man, 2262 01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:21,760 Speaker 5: we don't say that, you. 2263 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 2: Racist motherfucker. 2264 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:31,640 Speaker 3: Jesus. But so, so what is here's the thing, Like 2265 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,880 Speaker 3: most people, I'm we're knee deep in athlete endorsements to 2266 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 3: this sort of thing. You give us something, all right, 2267 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,080 Speaker 3: all right, there's Hey, there's a gymnast. There's a gymnast 2268 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,800 Speaker 3: for L s U. Her name's Olivia Dunn. She's got 2269 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,799 Speaker 3: seven figures lined up already in endorsement deals. A gymnast 2270 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 3: at L s U. Right, So, like everyone listens like, oh, 2271 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 3: it's got to be Spencer Rattler bringing home the cash, right, 2272 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 3: It's gonna be Derek King making that money. Like the 2273 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 3: truth is that the the athletes that are making the 2274 01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 3: most right now are content creators to talkers, YouTubers that 2275 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 3: just got to flip the switch and they're making money 2276 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 3: right now, right because you know, the the dude that's 2277 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,439 Speaker 3: gonna get paid, you know, to sell a shirt for 2278 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,639 Speaker 3: twenty bucks. Maybe do an autograph for a one hundred bucks, 2279 01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 3: Like that's gonna stack up and rack up and be impactful. Right, 2280 01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,240 Speaker 3: But oh, for sure, the people that want to listen, 2281 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,679 Speaker 3: like who's making seven figures. It's a gymnast at LSU 2282 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:23,719 Speaker 3: that's got four million followers on TikTok. It's the Haley 2283 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,720 Speaker 3: and Hannah Cavender at Fresno State that are that you 2284 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,160 Speaker 3: have thousands of YouTube subscribers and three million TikTok followers, 2285 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,120 Speaker 3: Like those are the athletes that are winning, you know. 2286 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:34,800 Speaker 3: And that's the coolest thing is that these people you 2287 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 3: don't even know about it, but that those are the 2288 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,600 Speaker 3: and and for them there's not like a pro like 2289 01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,800 Speaker 3: this is their moment to make that money and they're 2290 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 3: doing that. That's the cool part of an ile. Yeah, 2291 01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:47,000 Speaker 3: especially people with people always. 2292 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,760 Speaker 1: Be curious about like the big like who's going to 2293 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,160 Speaker 1: be making like the seven figures of six figures of 2294 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,679 Speaker 1: you know, shit like that. Yeah, but people don't understand, 2295 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,400 Speaker 1: like you were saying it earlier, like I mean, two 2296 01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:00,400 Speaker 1: hundred bucks a month goes a long way, which imagine 2297 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 1: getting there, like, yes, we are on full right scholarships 2298 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 1: and people make that argument, oh, you get a full ride, 2299 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,880 Speaker 1: you get the you know, you get college paid for. 2300 01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 1: We're busting our ass doing this, like you should be grateful, 2301 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, like we get our scholarship check. 2302 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,080 Speaker 2: It was around what when I was a senior, is 2303 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,080 Speaker 2: around eight hundred. 2304 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, seven and eighty dollars, And that was to pay rent, 2305 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:26,840 Speaker 4: pay for rent as like after I pay for rent, utilities, phone, rent, 2306 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,960 Speaker 4: car insurance. I remember I would have like one hundred 2307 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,559 Speaker 4: maybe one hundred, one hundred, twenty bucks left a month, 2308 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,600 Speaker 4: so I needed twenty bucks to go downtown because you know, 2309 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 4: you knew everybody, right, so so like that was that's 2310 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,120 Speaker 4: that was what you did. But like I think that 2311 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 4: the Schollie checks now are like sixteen hundred or even more. 2312 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,120 Speaker 3: But it's like but the secret thing though, like that again, 2313 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,560 Speaker 3: I swear if you weren't a student athlete like this 2314 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,320 Speaker 3: stuff won't you'd be like, okay, I never thought about that, 2315 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 3: but remember that subway over by home depot, like where 2316 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 3: that you could go and like everyone knew like if 2317 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,559 Speaker 3: you said the right word, like you know, you might 2318 01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:00,600 Speaker 3: be able to get that five dollars foot long for 2319 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:05,840 Speaker 3: a little bit less right, and this is a hypothetical, 2320 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 3: Like Taylor the Wan was telling me a story of Michigan. 2321 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 3: Look at Michigan. What's true now is like for the 2322 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,599 Speaker 3: last two weeks, for the first time ever, like you've 2323 01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,000 Speaker 3: been able to take the burrito from Chipotle when the 2324 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,040 Speaker 3: dude's like, hey, you're a baller, like burritos on me, 2325 01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,120 Speaker 3: because like, no, you got to do something though, like 2326 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 3: you have to do something. It's got you. You can't 2327 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,120 Speaker 3: just take it because that's that's you have to have 2328 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 3: an inn ilativity. So like kids are doing like, oh, 2329 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,200 Speaker 3: it's an appearance, Like I made an appearance at Chipotle 2330 01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,720 Speaker 3: and I got an eight dollar burrito, and like that's 2331 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,840 Speaker 3: all good. Or they'll tweet out about Chipotle like Titus 2332 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:45,759 Speaker 3: roller in town like on O Street, you know whatever, 2333 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,240 Speaker 3: and but that that is what's happening, And that's the 2334 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 3: stuff that's like people, it's not gonna make headlines that 2335 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:54,680 Speaker 3: some do got an eight dollars burrito for free, But 2336 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,080 Speaker 3: for the like history of the NCA, you've never been 2337 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,719 Speaker 3: able to right, just to have the option is pretty 2338 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,639 Speaker 3: dang cool. And again it's not going to break headlines. 2339 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,160 Speaker 3: But that's the type of stuff that I'm excited about. 2340 01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,360 Speaker 3: But we got to get some busting ambassadors, dude, like 2341 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,120 Speaker 3: I think that we should. Right now, I'm gonna make 2342 01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,519 Speaker 3: you commit how much how much are you going to 2343 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 3: put towards building out the Busting with the Boys teams? Like, 2344 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,240 Speaker 3: we need some busting athletes? 2345 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:20,960 Speaker 2: You talking about how much right now? 2346 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:22,080 Speaker 5: Yes? 2347 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 3: Easy, man, No, let's talk about how many how what? 2348 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:27,680 Speaker 2: Hey? Decision like this takes time? 2349 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,800 Speaker 3: No, it's doesn't. It takes right now, not money. Let's 2350 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,800 Speaker 3: talk about what describe the perfect ambassador for Busting with 2351 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,479 Speaker 3: the Boys. You go out and build out the team, 2352 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,799 Speaker 3: the squad, You're like, yeah, those are all busting athletes. 2353 01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,640 Speaker 3: What do they tell me? What they look like? 2354 01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,439 Speaker 2: The obviously somebody for the boys? 2355 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, grid grit, the grid buddy, Yeah, lunch pale, 2356 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,600 Speaker 1: guys like wolves, people who are about like being for 2357 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:53,640 Speaker 1: the boys, that embodies being for the boys. It's not 2358 01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,640 Speaker 1: like you want people who are going to post, who 2359 01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,960 Speaker 1: are going to be afraid to get in an interview, 2360 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,880 Speaker 1: say we're all in a group at right, or say 2361 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,760 Speaker 1: we're talking back and forth and say hey, this week, 2362 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,000 Speaker 1: if you win, very barring that you win the game 2363 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,439 Speaker 1: and you feel good about it. Just shout out the 2364 01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,120 Speaker 1: boys and say, hey, subscribe to the boys and ray 2365 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,800 Speaker 1: five stars, you know what I mean? Or or you know, 2366 01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,680 Speaker 1: obviously you got stuff that we can give is up 2367 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,840 Speaker 1: in the air. But the ideal person I think Taylor 2368 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 1: and I immediately think of our alma maters, like, how 2369 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,840 Speaker 1: do you take care of those guys and get them 2370 01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 1: on the train and get them on a train. 2371 01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:30,320 Speaker 2: In a way to where they're not nervous about being 2372 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 2: for the boys. Yeah? 2373 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what I mean, that makes sense. You 2374 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:34,519 Speaker 3: want a lot you're trying. 2375 01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,439 Speaker 2: To have I don't know where we're trying to figure 2376 01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:36,760 Speaker 2: that out. 2377 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,280 Speaker 3: You trying to get like ten boys, see like yeah. 2378 01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,719 Speaker 1: There's there's there's thoughts where you get like a small 2379 01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,439 Speaker 1: group or you think, like Taylor being at the the 2380 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,280 Speaker 1: level he's at playing football, being a pro bowler, being 2381 01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 1: at the high peak of being an offensive lineman. A 2382 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of these young kids, especially in college, you know 2383 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 1: who Taylor want is so they want to be for 2384 01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:58,320 Speaker 1: the boys somehow, Like. 2385 01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 2: Hey, how can you be it? 2386 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 1: So you don't know, like you know, you create this 2387 01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,280 Speaker 1: hogs like you create anything, the big boy, any of. 2388 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 2: That's the big nasties whatever it is. Yeah, and you 2389 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:08,920 Speaker 2: think about that avenue. 2390 01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,679 Speaker 1: You think about, okay, if I worked with a certain 2391 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,880 Speaker 1: amount of linebackers, whether it be in a mentoring avenue. Like, 2392 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 1: there's so many different options that have gone through my head. 2393 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,519 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know what that is yet, but I 2394 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,240 Speaker 1: know like a lot of the athletes have already reached 2395 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:22,840 Speaker 1: out to us, like how do we be for the boys, 2396 01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,240 Speaker 1: And so those are obviously the types of guys who 2397 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,360 Speaker 1: want people who are taking initiative that know what's gonna 2398 01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,960 Speaker 1: come with, like they already know about how we go. 2399 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,160 Speaker 2: About things, you know what I mean? 2400 01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course, So you said one hundred 2401 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 3: grand that's what you said. Did I think I heard 2402 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,320 Speaker 3: that too hard too? 2403 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:41,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2404 01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,639 Speaker 3: I think that So Busting with the Boys is gonna 2405 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,080 Speaker 3: commit two hundred g's to building out the busting with 2406 01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:52,559 Speaker 3: the boys. And this is from Wills like personal cat. Wow, 2407 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,679 Speaker 3: your personal cat. You guys heard, See how that looks? 2408 01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see here. 2409 01:44:56,160 --> 01:45:00,800 Speaker 1: First, it does fire me up, like part of you 2410 01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,640 Speaker 1: guys visiting was we're gonna be talking about those thing. 2411 01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we should do that for sure tonight. 2412 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,840 Speaker 2: Man. It fires me up though, But that's a good question. 2413 01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:11,479 Speaker 3: I think it's not about the money. I'm not talking. 2414 01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 2: About the money part. 2415 01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about how you go about doing something like 2416 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,439 Speaker 1: that with a brand that we have, Like do you 2417 01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,280 Speaker 1: want to be selective and exclusive in things or do 2418 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 1: you want to be like you know, Dave puts out 2419 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:25,040 Speaker 1: the video and every athlete period you know, wants to 2420 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,160 Speaker 1: put barsel athlete as long as they get some merch 2421 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,639 Speaker 1: which is incredible branding, which. 2422 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,439 Speaker 3: Is a great interesting Yeah, but there's a lot of 2423 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:32,559 Speaker 3: compliance issues with that too. 2424 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, big stuff like what you know about we won't 2425 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,360 Speaker 1: get into because we you know, it's been an hour 2426 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:37,760 Speaker 1: and a half. 2427 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought you would skip over some of 2428 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 3: the stuff already was talking about and we just keep going. 2429 01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,160 Speaker 3: I thought I had a friend at the start of 2430 01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:48,639 Speaker 3: this podcast. I clearly don't. So you friends in my life. 2431 01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,599 Speaker 2: That's cool. Okay, what complaint compliance issues do you run 2432 01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:53,280 Speaker 2: into with all that? 2433 01:45:54,280 --> 01:46:00,519 Speaker 3: I like teaching kids that if you didn't you bum that. Yeah, 2434 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,280 Speaker 3: let's have a foot that's. 2435 01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,880 Speaker 1: Just making a huge fucking body moving back there. 2436 01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,640 Speaker 3: And then yeah, let's talk about the history of Uh. 2437 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to hire and fire our people? Sure? 2438 01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:24,360 Speaker 2: Get rid of Garrett. Yeah, okay, sorry to cut you off. 2439 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,320 Speaker 3: No you no, it's good dude. 2440 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 2: But open doors dot com here's your drop your look. 2441 01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,639 Speaker 3: This is like anyone listening. Like you can log into 2442 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,439 Speaker 3: open or stuck comcreene account. You could find whatever athlete 2443 01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:38,439 Speaker 3: you want and ask them to do whatever you want 2444 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,680 Speaker 3: for whatever amount of money and it will will go 2445 01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,920 Speaker 3: straight to their phone. Like you want them to tweet 2446 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,280 Speaker 3: about your your your small business. You want them to 2447 01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:48,920 Speaker 3: give you a shout out like it's it's like Cameo 2448 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:54,439 Speaker 3: meets five plus. Just asking an athlete directly, Hey do 2449 01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,400 Speaker 3: you want to support my business or say happy birthdays 2450 01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 3: my kid? Like open doors, It just makes athletes more 2451 01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 3: excit to the people that support them, Like it's super 2452 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,800 Speaker 3: easy and uh yeah, so do that, Like just do 2453 01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,439 Speaker 3: it and you're you were gonna will confidence on there. 2454 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,599 Speaker 1: You can just do your thing. Don't bring don't bring 2455 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,599 Speaker 1: this back to me. Open doors dot com. Follow at 2456 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,880 Speaker 1: open doors your Twitter handle. 2457 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,640 Speaker 3: Blake Underscore Lawrence, Yeah your Twitter U n A L. 2458 01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,960 Speaker 2: I see follow the boys. 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