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Speaker 2: Tea and now herbal infusions. Well there's I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: Our guest knows.

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Speaker 2: Now, we've loved you forever. You were technically our miss cultuista.

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Speaker 1: Yes culture. People didn't see this on streaming peacock, But

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Speaker 2: Now, we didn't want to. It just happened when I

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Speaker 2: Our guest is out here beautifully expressing the right political takes.

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Speaker 2: She is a legend for all times. She's the Ellen Klatt,

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Speaker 2: with Moody Tea's her new collaboration. She's on season three

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Speaker 2: of Survival with the Thickest, with the one, the Only

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Speaker 2: Michelle Vissage Michelle Michelle but oh my god, in her day, Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's true taking my virginity.

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Speaker 1: And you brought the tea. I brought the tea.

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Speaker 2: Memories of that Traders moment, because that was that was

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Speaker 3: It was whatever to perform?

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Speaker 1: We'll get to show up whenever we want.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I showed up. Our time was not the same

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, y'all brought ways and no one can

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Speaker 4: How good you are dragging me the wings and she's

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Speaker 1: It's Monday night.

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Speaker 1: I missed barracouta most of all I do.

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Speaker 2: It's where we would go, especially if anything was playing

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Speaker 2: But I feel like Chelsea is like kind of desolate

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Speaker 3: I mean, I ain't been there. I have humble Weeds.

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Speaker 3: Is Jim Bar still there?

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Speaker 2: I think, don't.

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Speaker 1: I hope I do never know anymore, And like honestly

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Speaker 2: I know of the culture in general where it's all

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Speaker 2: keep it to America. But it's like the gay bars

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I decided to partner with Moody Tea Company,

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Speaker 3: I love it so much. Can we try so? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we go and wow, this is elegance.

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Speaker 3: Wow, this is my pot.

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Speaker 3: I travel with the teapot.

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Speaker 3: Is Wow.

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Speaker 1: This is gorgeous. Yeah, just the color of it, the elegance,

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Speaker 4: And so what makes it blue is the blue butterfly

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Speaker 3: And so if you drink, let me get myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we have to all do it together.

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Speaker 1: We are so happy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is the Collector's edition mug with the Collector's

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Speaker 1: It's fab Oh, this is exactly what you need.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: Now they.

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Speaker 2: It would have been like, did these lovely people at

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Speaker 1: And we'd love for it to be a peppermint tea.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it together.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there was lots of different options, you know,

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Speaker 1: No, darling, did this did it basically like make you

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Speaker 2: I was?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, snob.

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Speaker 1: Te mother you were? You were being mother earlier. You

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Speaker 1: know what tea at British tea? Shall I be mother?

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Speaker 2: And then?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I didn't even know that, But I learned a

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Speaker 4: I learned that tea, like the The reason tea is

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Speaker 4: to ingest sugar tea. So like that was what you

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Speaker 4: they would have with sugar, which was really really rare,

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Speaker 4: But then yeah, and so they're like, let's get you

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Speaker 2: But isn't this like such a crazy thing where like oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all like like let's go like invade these

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Speaker 2: Like it's crazy, like like but now we think of

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Speaker 2: like you're drinking hot water. You're China Mac saying you're

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Speaker 4: Yes, and your tea can be problematic, and tea can

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Speaker 4: be even transphobic. It is if it's not this tea,

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Speaker 4: because this tea, in addition to being delicious, also a

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Speaker 2: Incredible. So I'm throwing out all my celestial seasonings.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Definitely, then.

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Speaker 2: If you ever are in Boulder, Colorado, you must go

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Speaker 1: They have the mint room. Ah, the mid room.

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Speaker 2: It's where they keep all the mint.

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Speaker 1: It's a fresher dried it's like already it's dry.

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Speaker 2: And it's like a cold like meat locker situation.

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Speaker 3: But you in and it is.

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Speaker 2: I know it does vix vapor rub it's but it's

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Speaker 3: My favorite Fragrance VI.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing vix right now.

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Speaker 3: Wait that's she I mean that is a Gilder Radner

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Speaker 3: throw back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, you have to go to the

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Speaker 3: We have to check it out. I mean, I'm going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to know the competition.

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Speaker 2: What have you What have you learned about teas in

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Speaker 3: Things like that tea will have leaves in it. So

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Speaker 4: I mean I've learned a lot about tea. You know,

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Speaker 1: How do you wait for? How do you wait for

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Speaker 1: Are you clicking? I hope you're not watching the the

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Speaker 1: what do you call it the kettle? Did you hear

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Speaker 3: Enact austerity on New York City like talk about.

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Speaker 3: It's the federal budget that trickles down.

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Speaker 1: Now, drink sea. You know what I think is funny,

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Speaker 1: out if their bought a paid for it anyway. And

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Speaker 1: then you you get very tripped up because people get

447
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Speaker 1: called progressive. And I'm sorry, but I don't think that

448
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: you can call yourself progressive if you have a very

449
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: bad rating from organizations that track whether or not you've

450
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Speaker 1: taken corporate money and continue to do that. So don't

451
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Speaker 1: don't tell me who's progressive when you can do a

452
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Speaker 1: simple Google search.

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Speaker 3: There's none to say it is one hundred percent true.

454
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Speaker 1: It just is what it is.

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Speaker 2: But we're oh wait, I didn't know what's happening that

456
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Speaker 2: little hand toss like, oh yeah, I was like, what

457
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Speaker 2: you know?

458
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Speaker 1: Do you know what the what the what the key is?

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Speaker 1: Look at the elbow, oh for the.

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Speaker 2: For the high five connections and you know it's perfect

461
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Speaker 2: name every time.

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Speaker 3: So then you don't have a missed moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not like politicians are missing the moment every day,

464
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Speaker 1: every single line. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I asked you the simplest,

466
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Speaker 2: most like ninth grade Civics class question, Well, how.

467
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Speaker 4: Does the federal budget affect the municipal one. You know what,

468
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Speaker 4: that's fair because a lot of us don't take civics anymore.

469
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Speaker 4: They like removed it out of his education of course.

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Speaker 1: Growing up.

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Speaker 2: For for me at least, it was like I remember

472
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Speaker 2: our social studies teachers like trying to dance around certain

473
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Speaker 2: things about like teaching us the Constitution when like Bush W.

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Speaker 1: Bush was president and she.

475
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Speaker 2: Was like, now am I gonna explain this? And now

476
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Speaker 2: I'm like I can't imagine what these fucking like teachers

477
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Speaker 2: have to how they have to like sort of package

478
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Speaker 2: it without like getting without like one of the kids

479
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Speaker 2: going home being well missus Patrick said this, and this

480
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Speaker 2: about up or like suggests.

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Speaker 4: They just don't even teach it. I mean, like it's

482
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Speaker 4: not even in the curriculum anymore. And I think that's

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Speaker 4: just like you know, teach American exceptional exceptionalism, like we

484
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Speaker 4: are great and we are free, and you know, any

485
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Speaker 4: threat to us is just a threat to our freedom

486
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Speaker 4: and that's it. Meanwhile, you have Pallenteer. This video is

487
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Speaker 4: getting strike stricten instruct.

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Speaker 1: Getting strict injunk.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is this is the thing about about

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Speaker 2: things like Palenteer. They're now trying to like asceticize the

492
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Speaker 2: all of like the nefarious ship, where like it's all

493
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Speaker 2: like they are surveilling in us, but like let's let's

494
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Speaker 2: make a cool like rugby shirt with our logo on

495
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Speaker 2: it and that'll be great. Like that'll that that kind

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Speaker 2: of like stand it launders like the image in some

497
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Speaker 2: way where it's like, well, if people are gonna wear

498
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Speaker 2: our cool fun clothes, like they mertify like the fucking evil.

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Speaker 3: They yeah they want.

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Speaker 4: I think they really are are depending on people sort

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Speaker 4: of devolving into this like I only care about like

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Speaker 4: mine step yeah, like find little staff, little clips and

503
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Speaker 4: like whatever, like stuff that just makes them feel good

504
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Speaker 4: and shopping or whatever, without realizing that the material conditions

505
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Speaker 4: the need that they have are connected to all these

506
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Speaker 4: huge corporations that are taking money out of the pockets

507
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Speaker 4: and taking their their taking your actual freedoms away. It's

508
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Speaker 4: not a brown person or a transperson, It's a corporation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And that I think is leading to another thing,

510
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Speaker 1: which is we are becoming so numb to that because

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Speaker 1: I think the prevailing narrative from all of these corporations.

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Speaker 1: And I was actually watching Hacks and the Comeback last

513
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Speaker 1: night and they both spoke about AI and it's the same.

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Speaker 1: It's the same idea that the AI creators and the

515
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Speaker 1: people that are sort of you know, in power are saying,

516
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Speaker 1: this is happening whether you like it or not, or

517
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Speaker 1: or the future is happening, so join it. And this

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Speaker 1: idea of like there's a great monologue that kind of

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Speaker 1: Einbinder it's amazing, or she was just like, this is

520
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Speaker 1: the problem is that you're telling us it's inevitable, and

521
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Speaker 1: therefore we're just supposed to accept that and march into

522
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Speaker 1: this reality when the fact is you are the only

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Speaker 1: person that benefits from that inevitability. This idea that we

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Speaker 1: don't have a choice across the board is so degrading

525
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Speaker 1: to the soul of this country, which the second you

526
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Speaker 1: really step out of it and start thinking about it.

527
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Speaker 1: They've been degrading us from the beginning because they've made

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Speaker 1: us feel we were in service to our country, not

529
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Speaker 1: that they are in service to us. And it's just

530
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Speaker 1: shocking to see them parrot this well, it just doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: AI is here, like this is the way our government

532
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Speaker 1: is like capitalism is the correct way. It's just crazy

533
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Speaker 1: to see what we've accepted and what people continue to accept.

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Speaker 4: I mean they I guess they have to change the

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Speaker 4: definitions of a lot of things with capitalism. I thought

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Speaker 4: capitalism just meant being free to buy things and making

537
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Speaker 4: your own decisions.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought capitalism was. And that can't be

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Speaker 3: a mistake.

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Speaker 4: That is a byproduct of everything I learned, whether it

541
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Speaker 4: was from school or the media and the TV shows

542
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Speaker 4: we were watching, and the slogans that the politicians were saying,

543
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Speaker 4: and so you know, when you missdirect people and they're

544
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Speaker 4: on some other path, and of course it's easy. You know,

545
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Speaker 4: if they can convince us that Palenteer is just the shirt,

546
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Speaker 4: then people are like, sure, we want the shirt, and

547
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Speaker 4: then they're going to accept it. And that that sort

548
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Speaker 4: of paired with this, well, it's just inevitable, and it's

549
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Speaker 4: not because they're there trying to sell it to us.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're doing. They just need us to believe

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Speaker 3: that we want it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly because another thing Hannah says in that monolog is

553
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Speaker 2: she's like, you can't tell us that it's inevitable, and

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Speaker 2: that like it's just here when you're the one selling

555
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Speaker 2: the product.

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Speaker 1: So it's like this is like a sales pitch.

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Speaker 3: It's a sales pitch.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that's inevitable is us and when we

559
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Speaker 4: ultimately decide to do or agree to do, or decide

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Speaker 4: not to do.

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Speaker 2: And the only thing inevitable is transcendenced by moody t.

562
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Speaker 3: And press, that's inevitable.

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Speaker 1: I just it's it's really it was kind of jarring

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Speaker 1: yesterday because you see, like it was in the center

565
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Speaker 1: of both of the television series I was watching, and

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Speaker 1: they are both comedies. Because something I've had thought about about,

567
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Speaker 1: like with show business and stuff, is it's like they're

568
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Speaker 1: gonna come for the things that they think are easily

569
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Speaker 1: replaced first, you know what I mean. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's like like like, for example, they're saying the thesis

571
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Speaker 1: of the comeback was, oh Ai can write comedy because

572
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Speaker 1: you don't need to be a genius to do it,

573
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like what like they're

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Speaker 1: talking now like these bros that want to look out

575
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Speaker 1: for other bros. I guess like, oh, auteurs are gonna

576
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Speaker 1: be okay, you know what I mean, Like, don't worry

577
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Speaker 1: like these people that we actually respect because you're also

578
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Speaker 1: men and indoctrinated into culture y'all, y'all are fine, will

579
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Speaker 1: look out for you, you will just help you with

580
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Speaker 1: this tool. It's gonna keep everyone else down, you know

581
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's gonna take it's gonna rob

582
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Speaker 1: everyone of everything that we don't take seriously, which is

583
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Speaker 1: gonna be gay art, queer art, black art, like honestly,

584
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Speaker 1: and then the low art forms quote unquote, which is

585
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Speaker 1: comedy and is low key like experimental stuff, and that

586
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Speaker 1: is even.

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Speaker 4: Expanding what they're saying is the low art forms. And

588
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Speaker 4: what they're saying is like, you know, disposable.

589
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Speaker 1: Everything for women.

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Speaker 3: Exactly a bridge.

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Speaker 4: Pretty much all of those subjects that they deleted out

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Speaker 4: of the federal vernacular last year, out of all the

593
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Speaker 4: federal grants and out of all the websites, and removing

594
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Speaker 4: dare you removing trans from.

595
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Speaker 3: The stone Wall website.

596
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Speaker 4: We're trying to get a people, but you're right, people

597
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Speaker 4: aren't going to do any bit of research. There were

598
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Speaker 4: people up in the comments when they took the when

599
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Speaker 4: they took the Pride flag down from from Stonewall and

600
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Speaker 4: Sheridan Square, that from the Stonewall National Monument. They were saying, well,

601
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Speaker 4: a gay flag doesn't belong on a national money. What

602
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Speaker 4: the hell do you think the national monument is all

603
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Speaker 4: e stupid?

604
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: Exactly?

605
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Speaker 2: Also, how do they know? How are they experts on monuments?

606
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: All of a sudden they're not, which is.

607
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Speaker 3: The case in point, they don't even know what this

608
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Speaker 3: one's about.

609
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Speaker 1: Exactly. It's just so wild for everyone in power to

610
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Speaker 1: be like, we have to keep pushing forward. This systems

611
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: in place have not worked. Our country is a failed experiment.

612
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: So the systems in place are not pushing us forward.

613
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: Like you were the only one with the megaphone, so

614
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: you get to say that, but it's America didn't work.

615
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Speaker 4: I remember, and I'm trying to forget. I'm trying right now.

616
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to go back and sort of redeem, Like

617
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Speaker 4: where do these ideas get in my head? And I

618
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Speaker 4: remember the idea of in terms of politics, someone saying, well,

619
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Speaker 4: I eventually just started parenting, Oh, well, you know, it's

620
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: basically they just trade back and forth, and that's politics,

621
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Speaker 4: you know, Like first the right has it, then the

622
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Speaker 4: left red blue, red blue, and that's it, which just

623
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Speaker 4: kind of lulls us into this status quo nothing will

624
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Speaker 4: really change, and everybody knows that, like, nothing really changes

625
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: they just change power every few years, and that's it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be that way.

627
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Speaker 2: No.

628
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Speaker 1: I loved what AOC said the other day because you know,

629
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Speaker 1: they're asking the most boring fucking question, ad nauseum. What's

630
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Speaker 1: your political aspiration in twenty twenty eight? Is it a

631
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Speaker 1: Senate seat or is it the presidency? And she turned

632
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Speaker 1: and she said, you know what, I'm different from everyone else.

633
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Speaker 1: You're gonna ask this question too, because I haven't aspired

634
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Speaker 1: to this office. I don't aspire to a title. I

635
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: don't aspire to leadership. That has not been what this

636
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: is about for me. My aspiration is to change this

637
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Speaker 1: country about and single payers forever, and like a title

638
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Speaker 1: ist is not like you can be the president for

639
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Speaker 1: four or eight years and that is the rule, and

640
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Speaker 1: like and that's it. But she answered that question in

641
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Speaker 1: a way that I think makes her singularly set up

642
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Speaker 1: to lead this country in a way that we need,

643
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Speaker 1: because she's not in service of herself.

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Speaker 4: Exactly chasing power and money and greed, which is what

645
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Speaker 4: all of the elected officials are doing.

646
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Speaker 2: They're publicly like on talk shows now being like, well,

647
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Speaker 2: I'm very powerful as a congress person, and you're like, listen,

648
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Speaker 2: you're not supposed to say that.

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Speaker 6: Act.

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Speaker 1: We don't want that unless is your value, and that

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Speaker 1: is a lot of their values. They put emphasis on

652
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Speaker 1: their power and influence, and then that becomes the thing

653
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Speaker 1: that's important. And the way you maintain that is by

654
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Speaker 1: getting to bed with corporations and unsavory groups.

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Speaker 4: That's the only way you maintain it, and that's why

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Speaker 4: you protect it. And then the if you're doing anything

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00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: in the best interest of a corporation, like corporations by definition,

658
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: in general, do not have the best interests of people,

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Speaker 4: human beings, the country, the planet, the environment, resources, disabled people,

660
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Speaker 4: black people, trans people, queer people. They don't have any

661
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Speaker 4: of that in their best interests. They have making more

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Speaker 4: money than they did last year. That is the definition

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Speaker 4: of what a corporation is. And that doesn't work. It's

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Speaker 4: not sustainable.

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Speaker 3: It's just not.

666
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Speaker 4: Even if you are a politician that's on the take

667
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: and getting on, you're going to be out one day.

668
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 4: The corporation is gonna be like, you know what, we're

669
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: done with you. We found a new one that's cheaper

670
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Speaker 4: and we'll do it better.

671
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Speaker 3: Oh you guys know, angry. This tea really is an

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm really happy that we're talking

674
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: about it, especially this This episode's coming out June twenty fourth.

675
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Speaker 1: Y'all are about to be the Grand Marshals Day. I

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Speaker 1: have so proud of both of you because you're both

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Speaker 1: amazing representations claim and I am just feel like you

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695
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: or prevent any disease. I listen, I really fucking love

696
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: that march. And I know and I actually I wonder

697
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: how you feel about this, because I feel like, as

698
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: someone who's like participating in the official like structure of

699
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: the Pride March, like I'm realizing and I'm really understanding

700
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: that there are these different needs that the march fulfills,

701
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: and that like something alternative like the Queer Liberation March

702
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: also fulfills in that it they are maybe at odds

703
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: with each other sort of philosophically, but I think it's

704
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: just about this unresolved tension there is within queer life,

705
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: which is some people want visibility and safety and some

706
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: kind of institutional support which will never be real liberation.

707
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: But then there are people who kind of see beyond

708
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: that and who might have the understanding and the a

709
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: certain attitude around like this is what I think we

710
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: should stand for. This is actually going back to the

711
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: origins of Pride and what marchor p Johnson did. Like

712
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: I think there's like I think there's this like for now,

713
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: there's this thing where those things are both happening at

714
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: the same time for a reason that I think is

715
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: very good. Like you can you can show up to

716
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: the eleven Am, so the Queer Liberation March eleven am.

717
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: On the twenty eighth at the AIDS Memorial it goes

718
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: to the Lenape Circle. If that is like a specific

719
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: sort of like intention you want to go into the

720
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Pride March with. I think we're doing it in the

721
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: sort of the official capacity where we get to maybe

722
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: do a little thing with Zorn, with our mayor, we

723
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: like get to like talk about where each of us

724
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: was coming from within the queer umbrella. Like I think

725
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: there's like I don't know, I'm trying to be like

726
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: expansive about this idea, which like I feel conflicted as

727
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: a queer person. Obviously you know what I mean.

728
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: I mean, especially since over the years the official Pride Parade,

729
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: which now is named is to a March, became so corporate. Yes,

730
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: and yet again we already know that like they left,

731
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: we were like, oh my gosh, here comes course light

732
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 4: with their with their Pride flags or whatever.

733
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh never mind. Exactly before we.

734
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: Can get two words out of our mouth, they're gone.

735
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: And that is I mean that's just again you have

736
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: another example of how corporations will leave you high and dry,

737
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: and everything is so performative, and it is important to

738
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: have inclusion in all these.

739
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: Just just be just so much as in these corporations.

740
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: Employ people who are queer, who are all different types,

741
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: and so that is that visibility is important through that

742
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: sort of you know, pulling these corporations be like good

743
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: corporate citizens or stewards or whatever. But you know, ultimately

744
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 4: they don't give a hell what it is. We've seen it.

745
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: We've seen it literally, yeah, And so that is and

746
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: you know, that is catalyst for a lot of people

747
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: to want to start up the Queer Liberation March, you know,

748
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: and I think that's fantastic, especially given twenty twenty and

749
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: the relationship with the police, and like so many of

750
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: these different systems and institutions in the city and beyond

751
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: that have a bad history with the queer community. And

752
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 4: so I support the Queer Liberation mark one hundred percent.

753
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: It's necessary. That's what we obviously need to be sort

754
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: of the lifeblood and what's at the core. I think

755
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: we as a community and as a country lost sight

756
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: of what it was. You know, ultimately, I think as

757
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: a black person, as a transperson part of the CAUER community. Yes,

758
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 4: I want visibility. I want to see and I'm meeting

759
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: into my little grant later. I want to see, like

760
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: you know, inclusion and queerness and black trans people here

761
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: and all this. I want to see that everywhere visible.

762
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: And I want to see that for at least for

763
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: the sake of people being inspired to know that they

764
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: can actually hold those positions later. But why is that necessary?

765
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: That's necessary because in the past, those positions, those opportunities

766
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: were held from people.

767
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: And it wasn't just because they didn't want to have

768
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: somebody on TV's they didn't want to have somebody on.

769
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: TV who was queer or this or that, because it

770
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: gave people the opportunity to think larger, and it would

771
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: give them and give them access to personal power and

772
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: the ability to ascend so they could get access to

773
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: medications and healthcare and housing and food. And they'd find

774
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 4: a way to do that, not through the typical systems

775
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: that want to charge us a subscription. Just like what

776
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: the Black Panthers were enacting their free breakfast program and

777
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: they went and shot them all up. They didn't shoot

778
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: them all up because these were black people that were

779
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: holding guns. They shot them all up because they were

780
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: providing free breakfast to the to the to a poor neighborhood.

781
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: Socialists exactly. And that is the biggest threat obviously to capitalism.

782
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: And so when we have queer people who see another way,

783
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: that were not desperate, were not held into these little boxes,

784
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: then that is the threat. And so we lost sight

785
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: and we thought that, oh, the company changing their logo

786
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 4: to a rainbow was all I need, and it's not. Honestly,

787
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: it I right now trying to resent. I want healthcare,

788
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: I want housing that I can afford, and I want

789
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 4: safety and food. You know, I don't even need money

790
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: if I have those things, right, The basics are last,

791
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: the basics, that's what we need. You are such a

792
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: good messenger, you really are. Like have you always had

793
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: like even before drag, have you always been a political

794
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: person or do you find that over the years you've

795
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: been emboldened to this to use your voice in this

796
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: way because it's vulnerable.

797
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: Very thank you.

798
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: It's fine tuned for sure, like you know, with my experience.

799
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: But I remember my mom told me I did not

800
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: know this about myself. I knew I was talkative in school,

801
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: but like I think, in second grade, I rallied This

802
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: is wild. I rallied every single student in the room

803
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: in the class to sign a petition to state and

804
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: declare that it was not fair that the black students

805
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: in the room were not treated equally.

806
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, you want to see the real kicker.

807
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: I got all the white students to sign at the

808
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: top because I understood the power differential and that that

809
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: would be they had white skin privilege and that the

810
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: message would be better received coming from them.

811
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: And it was my idea. Can you believe that in

812
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: second grade?

813
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Where do you think that intuition came from? Just from

814
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: being in your body and your experience and knowing, like

815
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: seeing that maybe the white kids got listened to a

816
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: called on first Like what was it exactly baked into you?

817
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: I don't know because I don't remember, but I must

818
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: have noticed it in the class. But it's not like

819
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: they were like, you know, our teacher wasn't like in

820
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: the KKKA, right, I don't think that, you know, yeah, exactly,

821
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: that's why she was always wearing that white dress.

822
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Oh but no, she wasn't.

823
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: She was not.

824
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: She was not. But my my grandparents were heavily involved

825
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: in the civil rights in the sixties, and my grandmother

826
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: was an educator, and so you know, like I definitely

827
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: like got the vibes and the vapors from my grandmother.

828
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the vapors.

829
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you also have this like personal

830
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: history in terms of like, let's just say, like rallying

831
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: people up with I feel like with the cheerleading too, right.

832
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a cheerleader.

833
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: I feel like we spoke about it in the first

834
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: time episodes years ago on Zoom. Yeah. But I feel

835
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: like like I feel like, this is what you do.

836
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: You get in front of people and you go, let's

837
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: do that.

838
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: Let's do this.

839
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: I know.

840
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: And I remember I used to work at a makeup

841
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: store and hated the way that we're being treated. And

842
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: I remember saying, y'all.

843
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 3: Let's all walk out.

844
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: If we all leave, they can't do anything about it.

845
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: Do you know like that was It's always been in my.

846
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to stage to walk out so bad.

847
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're out of here.

848
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: Wait, I missed talking, but like, did you guys, did

849
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: you guys end up doing the walkout?

850
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: No?

851
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: They were pussies.

852
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: See, you couldn't get them on how that's the vulnerability.

853
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, it's like you realize it's like, hey,

854
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: let's all do this thing in theory, yeah, and then

855
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: you actually have to do it, and you see it's

856
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah, because and especially now. And the reason

857
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: why it's like tech companies specifically that are like amassing

858
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: all well, they got us, they amass they're amassing all

859
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: these things, and they're kind of like lulling us into

860
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: like placidity or whatever, if that's the right word, is

861
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: that we are What tech companies provide is convenience. And

862
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: since things are so convenient now, and since all these

863
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: things are wrapped up in this tech convenience, it is

864
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: very hard for us to pull away from that in

865
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: a political sense, to be like we have to do

866
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: this thing in order to like, I don't know, like

867
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: hit the carot it or whatever. I mean.

868
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 4: I still deep in my brain, it's still instilled in

869
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: me that that monopolies are illegal and that you know,

870
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: competition is what drives the American spirit. Yeah, but all

871
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 4: that's been eliminated as of twenty to nineteen eighty seven.

872
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't really, so it doesn't exist.

873
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: And so the price for convenience is privatization and having

874
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 4: one corporation own not only the food that you put

875
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 4: in your mouth, but the factory that it comes from,

876
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: the store that sells it, the truck that drives it there,

877
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: the seeds that are planted to use it, the spray,

878
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: the chemical spray that goes on the that kills us anyway,

879
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: and so like one company. I mean it's like Alien

880
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: the movie. Remember that movie, an Alien movie.

881
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: There was one corporation.

882
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: It was what you just watched, all, yeah, just one

883
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: that's it. They owned everything. You're housing, your food, your entertainment,

884
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: your whatever. Yeah, we don't want that.

885
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: Well oh my god. See, like Cyberdyne was the owner.

886
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't know one of those, and then cyber Dane

887
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: was the evil program.

888
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: Like I like, I always rolled my eyes at that

889
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: sci Fi troup, like, oh, sure one company will own everything,

890
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: but I'm like, oh fuck.

891
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Sci Fi is always the most important thing to look

892
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: at culture because sci fi is the thing that is

893
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: talking about. And by the way, sci Fi has been

894
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: screaming on our faces about AI for longer than or so,

895
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: like hey, when everybody reading literally but like we we

896
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: did not need this many warnings and By the way,

897
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: watch any movie with AI or like corporate takeover any

898
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: of this stuff, you will notice there are no happy endings.

899
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: There's no well, we gave it all up to the machines,

900
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: but we were able to stay on top. That doesn't

901
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: That's not a thing wins in the movies. It's just

902
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: it's it's wild because we're talking about all these you know, uh,

903
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: the concept of needing to be a rallier and also

904
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: like wanting to be a model of positivity, but also

905
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: truth in a world where like the truth is a

906
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of things are fucked and the truth also is

907
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: that if people get the opportunity to advance in power,

908
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: they probably will. But it's funny because tomorrow I'm giving

909
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: the commencement speech at my department in Tish and Yu

910
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: so I was from the dramatic writing department, So amazing,

911
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go give the commencement speech and I'm speaking

912
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: to a group of people who are entering the entertainment

913
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: industry as writers und so the path basically what I'm

914
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna I was talking to Jared about it last night.

915
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: I was like, basically like I want to be realistic

916
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: about what it is, but also want to be optimistic,

917
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: and I think the only answer and this is we

918
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: say it ad nauseum. And so therefore it can sound

919
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: a little boring on impact, but it really is about community.

920
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: If you look up to people, you'll be disappointed. If

921
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: you look out and up at what the world is

922
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: or what it has become or becoming, you'll be disappointed.

923
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: But I find you won't be disappointed if you look around,

924
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: because I can draw a straight line back to my

925
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: community that I met at NYU in the queer life.

926
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: When I looked around, I was never disappointed by people.

927
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: When I look up when I meet some heroes of mine,

928
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised, but other times it's rough. And

929
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: when you see behaviors that you don't recognize in people

930
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: as they become whatever they're becoming, and as the world

931
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: becomes more stark to you, when you realize that there

932
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: is a label on everything, or that we do live

933
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: in this type of society. I find that if you

934
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: just look to your left and right at the people

935
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: that you're really with and physically alongside, you have a gift.

936
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: There because in that area to your left and to

937
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: your right, those people are experiencing the same conditions that

938
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: you're experiencing. And so I believe that the human nature

939
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: is if we're all I do believe that, like some

940
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 4: of these billionaires are just like so I won't say

941
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 4: evil by nature, but they've been corrupted and so they're

942
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 4: so cut off from the everyday person. But I do

943
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 4: believe that if a billionaire, somebody who's extremely poor, and

944
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: somebody else who's this, and that we're on some island

945
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: and a tidal wave was coming to kill us and

946
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 4: we had to work together to do the thing, we

947
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: would all work together to do the thing. You have

948
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: to we have to like it, unless somebody's like, well,

949
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: I just give up. But I think we would all

950
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: do that. And so that speaks to the where we

951
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: are now, for for the masses, for the not one

952
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 4: percent exactly because the private jet you are on the island.

953
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing too. That and that's it's so

954
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: funny when you actually drawed who the one percent is,

955
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's it's obscene, Like AOC again, I'm

956
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: invoking a second time. Send the other day on a

957
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: Lot of a lot of a lot of Glazers. Great podcast,

958
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: by the way, that there's no way to earn a

959
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: billion dollars, earn it your way into yeah, or you

960
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: can inherit it from people that exploited, exploited to maintain

961
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: what they had. But that speech is, that's such a

962
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: great thesis for your speech, and it's I love it

963
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: because this is my dream and I'm so happy you

964
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: get to do it. Of just going everybody looked to

965
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: your left. It's like, I that is such part of

966
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: it is going to be like I'm going to do

967
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: the cliche thing, but I promise it pays off.

968
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, go back look to your Then do we go

969
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: into jesse J.

970
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: To the ride And I told you my JESSEJ story.

971
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: So I went to go see jesse J in concert

972
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: in La. Decided that day I was going to go

973
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: to the Teagram Ballroom with Sudie.

974
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: We went.

975
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: I knew I didn't I thought she might sing Thunder.

976
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: We all know thunder, yeah, and get this, Thunder is

977
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: the national anthem in the UK. Only the good queers

978
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: know it here, so no, no, and anyway, so I

979
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: just yell out thunder and jesse J from the stage

980
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: goes somebody looked at the setlist online and I go

981
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I swear. I go, I swear I didn't, and she

982
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: goes bring the lights up and I go no, no, no,

983
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: no no. So then she says who said it? And

984
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: I literally was like it was me. And at that point,

985
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: like all the gays seeing Jesse j were like, there's

986
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers and I was like, hi, I was like

987
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: and then I felt like they all it was like

988
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: a fixed thing, like here here's him, like thinking it

989
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: about him at the show, and I was like, I

990
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: swear to god, I didn't know this wasn't. So she goes,

991
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: what do you do?

992
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: What do you do?

993
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: She goes, what inspires you when you wake up in

994
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: the morning. I was like, I'm an entertainer. And someone

995
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: from the other end goes, here's a podcast, and then

996
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: she goes, I'm going to do your podcast. We've yet together.

997
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: We get together, but I did DM her after and

998
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Hi, we actually just had Michelle Obama

999
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: on last week. It is like a real podcast. She goes, well,

1000
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: I said I would do it, and so I will.

1001
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 5: She responded. She responded, need anybody to no, please, we

1002
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 5: have a whole team over there. Has Jesse ever been

1003
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: in touch Jesse Jesse Jay, did you do her numbers?

1004
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Did you hear her songs? I used, Yes, I did.

1005
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: At karaoke O. That's a hard one.

1006
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: I mean they had to keep a pitch well, right.

1007
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: I when I love when karaoke has the pitch shift when.

1008
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: The song starts like.

1009
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: Take me down, like I'm at.

1010
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: Only the fancy karaoke spots have that, like all the

1011
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: ones in Vegas, let's say, have like the but in

1012
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: Japan when we went, I don't think that was the ones.

1013
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: Not the one that we went to.

1014
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: We kind of went to like a more of like

1015
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: a rustic, seedy one. All compliment Arry, Yeah, but oh

1016
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: my god, you are well. There needs to be this

1017
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: is what we were saying earlier. There needs to be

1018
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: like a queer spelling bee.

1019
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: We want to do.

1020
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay and like proper noun spelling bee and then

1021
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: we and then I feel like, I feel like karaoke

1022
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: in the queer communal sense has to come back in

1023
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: a way that I think can be sort of for

1024
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: for the people, for everybody.

1025
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: I used to love it. It was a great.

1026
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: Just just just gathering. It was very it was very communal,

1027
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: like you said, and yeah, the community is like it's

1028
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: so cliche like community is what we need, but it

1029
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: is really the thing that's going to protect us from

1030
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 4: the opposite of community, which is individualism and these corporations

1031
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 4: that are like privatizing everything and making your airline ticket

1032
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: specific to you girl.

1033
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: Because I'm on Delta dot com and this is by

1034
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: the way, it's not just them, it's a lot of them.

1035
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: But I go on and I'm like, why is it

1036
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: three times what it was last year? Then I found

1037
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: out about AI pricing, which is one of the biggest

1038
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: audult things so moneies I've ever heard, which is they

1039
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: know if you're a loyal customer, so they charge you

1040
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: more because they know you can pay for it.

1041
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: Which means if you finally want to use your points

1042
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: that you racked up for business when your job was

1043
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: flying you and you decided to scrounge together your personal

1044
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: money and take a trip to go see your mom,

1045
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 4: that suddenly you're paying what the corporation would be paying.

1046
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Right, Like, this is the thing about like unchecked capitalism

1047
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's like you are like it. It is

1048
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: coming for everyone in terms of like like our in

1049
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: our privileged positions, like our material conditions are being like

1050
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: like kind of fucked with you know what I mean,

1051
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you're putting me in competition with myself

1052
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: for like the free market and the free markets exactly

1053
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: what you're doing.

1054
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 4: And it even I mean, that's what these these corporations,

1055
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 4: they don't just exist. They don't exist to serve the people,

1056
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: because if they did, then that would be the focus.

1057
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: It's like you said, AOC said, like that would be

1058
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: the focus. But if the focus is making more and

1059
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 4: more money, these corporations, they they they raise the prices

1060
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: on things, They make the products cheaper and less healthy,

1061
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: and smaller the packaging every single year, like you get

1062
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: less and less, like airline seats are getting smaller. What's happening.

1063
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: People are getting fatter, you know, like it's getting smaller

1064
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: and smaller, more expensive and more expensive. And then what

1065
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: they do is they sell everything until there's nothing left

1066
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: to sell, and then they sell themselves to another larger

1067
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: creation and that buys them out and makes things even

1068
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: worse because that corporation that bought that corporation is less

1069
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: connected to the original mission of why they started that

1070
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 4: service in the first place. And then you get these

1071
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: private equities that just like buy up everything and yeah,

1072
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: I know, it's like it's like a horrific domino effect,

1073
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: but you're.

1074
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: But you're seeing the bigger picture of it all, which

1075
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: is which is great. Like I think I think people

1076
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: get sort of caught up in like the granular things,

1077
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: which they can and they should, but then like it

1078
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: is all connected, you know anyway, but oh God, like

1079
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: it is such on on on like a ry I.

1080
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: Let's say it is a media. I don't care how

1081
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: perfect the person is. Otherwise I'm like, if I see

1082
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: private equity, if I see you know, do people actually

1083
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: put that they list there, they prose what they do,

1084
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: it's what they do, and they can they can find

1085
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: people on that particular Oh this is this is desolate.

1086
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: Ew but like private equity agents on riyah.

1087
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: Look it's where it's it's where they go.

1088
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 4: I guess they're feeling I guess for the same reason

1089
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: like entertainers might not feel like safe, like they should

1090
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: feel unsafe.

1091
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: It's because you want to know what they're doing.

1092
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: Things that are harmful, people destroying.

1093
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: They're going to get fucked on ryah because there's so

1094
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: many creative directors aka people with no job.

1095
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: Not the way you want to eat.

1096
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, it's actually kind of it's

1097
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: so fucked. I don't miss the absent all. It's not

1098
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: even that. It's just that while I was single and

1099
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: like needed them, I also.

1100
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: Hated them, you know what I mean.

1101
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I was just like they were I

1102
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: don't know, And it's talking about community. Those kill community too.

1103
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: No one meets anymore, like I don't know when the

1104
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: last time I like, you know, and I missed this,

1105
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: Like this is why I missed Barracuda and boiler Room

1106
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: because I always hooked up at them, always hooked up

1107
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: at them because I was you were like a little

1108
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: bit of like a I know I've had really but

1109
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: it's also that environment, you know what I mean.

1110
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I would I'm sure there's people that would

1111
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: be hooking to more recently, but I mean, like if

1112
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: everybody's on their phone during the event, during the show,

1113
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 4: then they're not like looking around see who's in the corner.

1114
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: It gets you less used to refining those skills too,

1115
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like there is still

1116
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: the art of the flirtation and the pickup and the

1117
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, comfortability with self and the.

1118
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: Unknown I remember like going out to the clubs in

1119
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: New York and like not knowing if I was going

1120
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 4: to meet somebody and like have sex or get killed

1121
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: or whatever, you know, but like.

1122
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: Both let go such get killed or both?

1123
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: I wait, I feel what I'm feeling in this moment

1124
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: is that I want to do the Trey Parker Matt

1125
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: Stone thing where they like renovated cost and Denver.

1126
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to do.

1127
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: I want to like, it's not the boiler room necessary,

1128
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: but I'm like, oh, I will probably will probably open

1129
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: up like a gay a queer space in our future.

1130
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: You think I think it will be.

1131
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: It will be that.

1132
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: What's that called? I definitely want to call whatever it

1133
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: is a bar and grill, a queer bar and grill.

1134
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm down and grill. I think it has a great name.

1135
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: Queer barn, queer bar and grill.

1136
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 3: There aren't any right.

1137
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: Now, Julius, they make a burger.

1138
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 3: I mean, there are nothing with that name.

1139
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: Queer bar and grill. Is coming to the place where

1140
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Barracuda once stood? And well maybe not that, I mean.

1141
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 3: Like Dayne Reid or.

1142
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: Where are the Dwayne Reids.

1143
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: In my neighborhoods?

1144
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 4: Are dr is gone, yeah, no, no, no, but there's

1145
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 4: few and fewer, and some of them changed the Walgreens,

1146
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 4: and then some of them just got shut down.

1147
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: Well remember that, I remember Dwayne read New York. There

1148
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: was a time when it was Dwayne read New York.

1149
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: What a sentence that is?

1150
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh I missed the days when there'll be Dwayne said,

1151
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember where I time saying that's the sentiment. Though,

1152
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: back in my day, we had a Dwayne read three

1153
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: times on this block.

1154
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 4: Where were you when you discovered that that was actually

1155
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 4: an intersection near downtown?

1156
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 5: Oh?

1157
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1158
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Like twenty fourteen, like way too late.

1159
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, read Dwayne.

1160
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: And I didn't know until you educated me. You rallied

1161
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: to the messenger. A messenger. It's like off the chamber,

1162
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: stop on the egg. Yeah, yes, yes, Oh well, dang,

1163
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: I need to see you back in theater. I want

1164
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: to be what okay, what's what? What's the new what's

1165
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: the new dream?

1166
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: Role?

1167
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: What anything that's paying in these days?

1168
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: Why don't why don't we get you in mullin.

1169
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: Rouge it's closing and like, I'm on shit, are you

1170
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: gagging me?

1171
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: Right?

1172
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: Yes? Surprise, that's where.

1173
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: I heard okay, okay, yeah, so then but let's not

1174
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: even work to do it.

1175
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: I would like to do either.

1176
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 4: I mean like in the meantime, like something like oh,

1177
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: let's do that would be you know, Mulin Rouge, but

1178
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: I would do Hades Town, I would do you know,

1179
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: like there's roles in different shows.

1180
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot.

1181
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: I really do.

1182
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: Like the idea again or the feeling maybe, which was

1183
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: not easy. It's very different of originating. Yeah, very different.

1184
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 4: Then here's a script, there's your step. I mean it's

1185
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 4: more than that going into any Broadway show. But like

1186
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: when you already have someone who's done it and they're

1187
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 4: telling you this is what it is, it's a matter

1188
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: of rehearsals, yes, but technical, yeah, it's more technical. But

1189
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: obviously originating was months.

1190
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: Of the process.

1191
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: Head over house was twenty ninth, twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen,

1192
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: So like, well, like.

1193
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: What do you what are you like?

1194
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: What is like the the s of that process for you?

1195
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: That like it was so was so wonderful.

1196
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: It was it was terrible. I hated it.

1197
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: It was really really difficult and it was like one

1198
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: of the hardest things I've ever had to do. Ye

1199
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 4: like because I mean originally I'm in a musical, like

1200
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: oh my god. Yeah, it was like you know, I

1201
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 4: think the hardest part for me was where it was

1202
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 4: like in this unstable. It was in this position where

1203
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: we're during previews, like you're performing it every night for

1204
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 4: an audience, so like you're doing it.

1205
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: But it's not locked in yet stable.

1206
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: And then that's the moment where they can make changes

1207
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: during the preview process, and so like there would be

1208
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: times where they were like, Okay, you're on tonight, it's

1209
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 4: you're on in ten minutes. Remember that song that we

1210
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 4: wrote you like two weeks ago. We're going to try that,

1211
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: So put that in and your monologue gets out, but

1212
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: change the first word and go and.

1213
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, oh yeah, you know.

1214
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: And I was like very much like Beyonce, like yeah

1215
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: on stage and I made it work somehow. But then

1216
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 4: the satisfaction of which is honestly after the show, there

1217
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 4: were people like that were saying, we're going to do

1218
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: the show and we want to know like what you're

1219
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: what what what you put into it, or like what

1220
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 4: the original thought was in your character, and and we

1221
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: want to honor something like you, not something like you,

1222
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: but like we want to honor, like then you did

1223
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: the approach that you took, and we want we and

1224
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: it's important for us in our little high school in

1225
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 4: Nebraska to find a trans person to play this.

1226
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1227
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: That would have never happened. Yeah, you know.

1228
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: That's the coolest.

1229
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: So then the legacy is what makes like, yeah, it's

1230
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: worth it, right, because God, what you're describing does sound.

1231
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: It was hell. It was like I was like, oh

1232
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: my god, I hate this because.

1233
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: Do they even say a previews anymore?

1234
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: Like hey everyone, and they charge the same price.

1235
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: It's capitalism.

1236
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: They're just like, here it is.

1237
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: It's another version of the show, and we can get

1238
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: away with making changes if we need to. But like,

1239
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 4: you're basically seeing the show, so we're going to charge

1240
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: you the same price.

1241
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: And I have paid upwards of a certain amount of

1242
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: money to see shows. And I'm like, oh, you guys

1243
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: just didn't run the lights. I guess, yeah, didn't didn't

1244
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: didn't think we should have like a lighting design. It's

1245
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: just like that song, I just we're just not able

1246
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: to hear it, Okay, So that's the song we won't

1247
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: hear because there was no yeah sound.

1248
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: If you stand up and clap at the end. Their

1249
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: job is done.

1250
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: I guess, well, wouldn't be me. After I've seen some

1251
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: of these things in previews, and honestly, then then I

1252
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: get bummed out because I hear later like, oh wow,

1253
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: yeah they really found it in previews, they really turned

1254
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: it around. It's like, well, I want to find it

1255
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: in previews. I paid the show price for something that

1256
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: was not anyway, Go see Titanique on Broadway because the fun.

1257
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, oh yeah. I loved Titanique

1258
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 4: this season. I loved Cats, Jelkabal loved Lost Boys. Yeah,

1259
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: Lost Boys, Dante and Cats were my favorite of the

1260
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: things that opened in this season.

1261
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it just.

1262
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: It just feels it just feels wrong that you're not

1263
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: on Broadway.

1264
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: I agree to me, but I I there's a show

1265
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: that I really.

1266
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: You don't have to say.

1267
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: You can say, there's a show that I.

1268
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: You can say.

1269
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed doing workshops for a show. God, I

1270
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: don't know what the etiquette is.

1271
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: We were what well, what was it?

1272
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: What did you like? I did a workshop for a show. Yeah,

1273
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: it was called I can say what it was.

1274
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: It was Stage Mother, which was a movie in twenty nineteen,

1275
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty twenty. Uh you know about a small town

1276
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 4: mom who goes and forms a friendship and a kinship

1277
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: with the drag queens and the drag club. And so

1278
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 4: I loved that show and the process and the people

1279
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: and I love you. Hopefully it'll come it does on.

1280
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: Still, Yeah, I would say to all the college kids

1281
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: out there too, like they if your school is offering

1282
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: you like like like cheap tickets, go go go see things.

1283
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I regret the most about being

1284
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: in college and in the city. Yeah, and just like

1285
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: having the opportunity like when I had, like when I

1286
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: was like a student, had time to rush shows. I

1287
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: never did that. One time I rushed next to normal

1288
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: and we won and I got to see Alice Ripley

1289
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: and like all of these like major major and we

1290
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: sat I called them the Lincoln seats problematically, but we

1291
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: sat like in that little section where we were just

1292
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: like here sobbing, sobbing, sobbing back when I could cry

1293
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: pre Luxiber do my Ales Ripley, my sc form college

1294
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: just to night. You don't know, why don't you just go?

1295
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 3: You brought it back? Okay?

1296
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, was still a YouTube video is still up. Remember

1297
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: when she would just post things on YouTube.

1298
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: There's one.

1299
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: There's one where she goes.

1300
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: Two seconds long.

1301
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: This is back like before.

1302
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: This was like original short form content. It's just her

1303
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: in a dark room, shitty MacBook camera Circle two thousand

1304
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 2: and nine. This is all she says.

1305
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm only happy when it rains done. And another one

1306
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: where she goes twist, twist, Twist, Twist. The name of

1307
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: the game is the Peppermint Twist says.

1308
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: She just does she whispers, sings Peppermint Twist, and you're like,

1309
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: this woman is one of our best cubananas.

1310
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm jealous because when I was in college and we

1311
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 4: like our I went to Ada and our first like

1312
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: the show that they gave us the tickets to was.

1313
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: Seventeen seventy six.

1314
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I was like.

1315
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 4: John, it was terrible and we I mean, Brent Spiner

1316
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: was in. I was like, oh my gosh, Data from

1317
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: a Star Trek.

1318
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: That was great, but like it was not a good

1319
01:03:59,320 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: It didn't give.

1320
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: I didn't give. It wasn't like, oh, I feel good

1321
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: about anything.

1322
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 4: I mean, and you feel good about the arts, good

1323
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 4: about like slavery, Like nothing felt that.

1324
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: My girlfriend.

1325
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 4: Her name was lay from New Jersey, and she was like,

1326
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: you know, she was serving Mariah Carey, like Italian Mariah Carey,

1327
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 4: and she had like her like for fake for everything

1328
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: on and like this is nineteen ninty eight and.

1329
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 3: I don't think she was used to broad show.

1330
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: She in the middle of like the most quiet portion

1331
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: of the thing. So it was like, fuck this ship.

1332
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 4: And she got up and walked out of the theater

1333
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 4: and we were like, you can do that, yeah, and

1334
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 4: she did. She did like seventeen seventy six.

1335
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes you can, and you shall fuck this ship.

1336
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: To do that.

1337
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: It was basically string Oppenheimer.

1338
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1339
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 2: We saw Oppenheimer once and I saw what was that theater?

1340
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: It was the one on second Cema.

1341
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we were like we were an hour

1342
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: of the way through, the bomb hadn't even gone off, and.

1343
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: Being drunk and yet another scene, I I can't watch

1344
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: this ship. The film won an Academy Award for Best Picture.

1345
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: It was like we could be next door Barbie's over

1346
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: by now we Barbie has ended, the bomb hasn't even

1347
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: gone off. What the hell are you doing here? Loud film,

1348
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: just loud, and I tried.

1349
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: I was like, but people like this, what what they like?

1350
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: All sorts of ship that's capitalism, it's Japanese. People were right,

1351
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: they were like, fuck this ship ship Did.

1352
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 3: You all see Sinners? Did you love it?

1353
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 5: Yes?

1354
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, yeah, I was blown I was not blown

1355
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: away because by that time they were sort of predicting him.

1356
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: But I love that he's an Academy Award to and

1357
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: and that.

1358
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: That campaign just like represents like, oh, you can just

1359
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: be someone that people root for and then you'll win

1360
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: an Oscar.

1361
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you're good enough and you just it's

1362
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: not about you when it's about the work and the performance,

1363
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: I think is a note everyone everybody maybe could take

1364
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: be in service to the work. That's what impresses people.

1365
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: Which is the antithesis of another Oscar campaign that was running.

1366
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: Correct, which you know, it's not a mistake the way

1367
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: these things shake out, especially when the season is long

1368
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: and people have a lot of time to think about it,

1369
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel bad for the

1370
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: people that campaign for oscars now because if you come

1371
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: out in festivals that could start as early as like

1372
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: what June, July.

1373
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: August, sometimes almost a year.

1374
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody. We need to discuss a vacation that is

1375
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: not just a vacation, it's a statement.

1376
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: Virgin Voyages adults only, a child free sanctuary. See you

1377
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: heard that right. It's giving serenity, it's giving very European summer,

1378
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: it's giving I deserve this.

1379
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: They're sailing the Caribbean and the mid obviously, but now

1380
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: they've added NYC, the West Coast and Alaska. So whether

1381
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: you want Golden Hour off California or full cinematic glacier, core,

1382
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: main character energy, they said, range and the awards.

1383
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: At this point it's less award winning cruise line and

1384
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: more do we just engrave there a name on a

1385
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: dang trophy. They've won so many travel awards the ships

1386
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: might sweep the culture Awards Sleigh of the Sea, for instance,

1387
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: Excellence and Poolside Looks Outstanding Achievement in Top Deck Behavior.

1388
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: For twenty Eateries, Epic Entertainment Fitness Classes wi FI all

1389
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: included Luxury without the nickel and diming. Virgin Voyagers sailors

1390
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: consider yourselves called anyways, you said, Mariah Carey, which is

1391
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: a huge tip for the I don't think Sohney that

1392
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: I prepared today and we are at that moment. O.

1393
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 5: My god.

1394
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: So I actually just wore my Mariah Carey in nineteen

1395
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: ninety five Daydream Tortis shirt for my last episode, and.

1396
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 3: I have you didn't Actually no, I didn't go to

1397
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 3: that one.

1398
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: My first concert was Mariah though, in two thousand at

1399
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: Radio City Musical. It was the Rainbow Tour and that was.

1400
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: Really good stuff.

1401
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: But I have a Mariah thing. They've tried my girl again.

1402
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, this is Matt Rogers.

1403
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: I don't think so many time starts now.

1404
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Yet another year they had

1405
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: the chance to put Mariah and the Rock and Roll

1406
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. They did not do that. You guys

1407
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: are disrespectful. You don't have any rights making the decisions.

1408
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: I think the voting body should be replaced. I think

1409
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: if you were to look at everyone in the Rock

1410
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame and Mariah is not there,

1411
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: it's a glaring omission. And the fact that you keep

1412
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: putting her up for a year after year after year.

1413
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: Of course, she doesn't give a fuck anymore because she

1414
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: knows not to put any investment into you. But while

1415
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: the rest of us out here are going to fight

1416
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 1: for her because she's like too unbothered to fight for herself.

1417
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: Fuck you, I want to see you in the streets

1418
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: if you voted for someone else other than Mariah for

1419
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Also, get out

1420
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: of my face with its rock and roll. No, that

1421
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: is a very very broad It is the music Hall

1422
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: of Fame. It is the popular music Hall of Fame. Also,

1423
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: she has affected every single genre. You cannot listen to

1424
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: a modern female singer and not trace influence back to her.

1425
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: And yes, I am even talking about the cursive singers

1426
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: of today who did learn something from the way she

1427
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: writes songs, because it is not just about her as

1428
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: a singer, It is about her as a songwriter and

1429
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: a holistic artist. Shame on you, rock and roll Hall

1430
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 1: of Fame. And I do think so, honey, Mariah, forever.

1431
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: You know we love you.

1432
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: We love you, Mariah. That's one minute, yes.

1433
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 3: And shit this shit and rock and roll comes from blues. Yep.

1434
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: I just think you can't listen to Mariah and in

1435
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six, play her

1436
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: like this. Now, go to her show and tell me

1437
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: you haven't been affected by every single word coming out

1438
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: of her mouth over your life. Like it's people do

1439
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: not put the respect on her name, and it's crazy

1440
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: to call her underrated in the modern day.

1441
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 3: You know what, I agree, You're you're right, Like she

1442
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 3: definitely deserves her flowers, for sure.

1443
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 2: I have Grammy Awards in her entire career, only five paultree.

1444
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: But can I ask if she were to be inducted,

1445
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: should she go to the ceremony?

1446
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 3: Should she should?

1447
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: She acceyes, because I think one of the first things

1448
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: she should say is I think it took you guys

1449
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: long enough. But also what I like about her is

1450
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: she's like this with the Grammys too. She puts no care,

1451
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: she puts no she gives them no power, you know

1452
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like they've they've played with her and

1453
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: toy with her, and they do it to Ariana now too.

1454
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: They treat Arianna as Minnie Mariah. Ariana with only three

1455
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: Grammy wins. No comment, It's crazy. My sister has no comment.

1456
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: Well, it was just a really refreshing time. We literally

1457
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: saw Tanique off Broadway on Grammy Sunday a few years ago,

1458
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: and then like we went to her apartment to watch

1459
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 2: the Grammys and it was just she just kind of

1460
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: watched it like like a pure audience, every being like

1461
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: oh my god. Like she was just happy Victoria money want.

1462
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: She was just like happy for the night. But it

1463
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: was I was like, I can't imagine what this what

1464
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: this is like for you to be like, oh, look

1465
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: at like my peer group like celebrating each other and

1466
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: being celebrated. But like You're like, she let nothing slip

1467
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: And I was just kind of like just there for

1468
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: like a friend. But I was like, there must be

1469
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: some complicated feelings here.

1470
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because first of all, you know what, I

1471
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: just rewatched the you remember for positions when she did

1472
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: the live on live vocals in that hill with the dome.

1473
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: Her vocals in that and there's a point where she

1474
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: goes over to the loop machine and loops the beginning

1475
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: of position. And in the performance positions, this girl is

1476
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: just super so gifted, like as a musician, the vocals

1477
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: are just so pristine and again songwriter just like Mariah,

1478
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: like like Whiz in the booth. But for some reason

1479
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: they don't want to give it to these girls. I

1480
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: think because they don't hold guitars, you think. I think

1481
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: it's because they don't hold guitars and they don't sit

1482
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: behind piano. Someone give them a guitar and have them

1483
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: hold them. I think there's a little bit of a

1484
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: thing there. There's a little bit of a bias towards

1485
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: someone who it gives the perception of just singing, even

1486
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: if they hold hear again and again and again. Like

1487
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: there's some different way that they treat what they deem

1488
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: virtuosic musicians. And I think it has to do with

1489
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: the visual of them having an instrument. I really do

1490
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: huh think about it. This will be bowing yang's. I

1491
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Are you ready? I'm ready.

1492
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: It's about tea.

1493
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

1494
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: When you put honey in your tea, you go I

1495
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: want a little sweet note of flavor to this, right,

1496
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: But guess what if there's a tea bag in there,

1497
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: How the fuck am I supposed to stir and mix

1498
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: in the honey without the string on the tea bag

1499
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: getting all wound up in my let's say spoon. Okay,

1500
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: I know I'm talking to someone who's an expert, who

1501
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: has her own kettle, who brings her own beautiful glass pots.

1502
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: I'll have an answer for this, you're supposed to.

1503
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: Maybe there's like a little steperd thing that you put

1504
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: the leaves in, you're loose leaf in, and there's it

1505
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: filters through that. Then little shards of leave go in

1506
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: your tea, and then I just I just want like

1507
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: a nice, unfussy tea experience where I'm not unwinding a

1508
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: helix of tea bags string from my spoon.

1509
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: So many bits and bobs. I just I don't know

1510
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: if we'll ever figure it out.

1511
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 2: I would love for the corporations, if they're of any

1512
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: fucking use fuck this shit, they better figure out a

1513
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: way five make my tea experience not a damn puzzle.

1514
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to be solving a Rubics cube. And

1515
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: that's one minute. It shouldn't be a Rubics cube. Team,

1516
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm solving a Rubics cube when I drink the thing.

1517
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be like that. What do you have to say?

1518
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: It's capitalism's fault.

1519
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 4: Yes, Listen, the companies were are incentivized to have everyone

1520
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 4: having an individual cup of tea that they can charge

1521
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: you either for the bag or for the cup, not

1522
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 4: for the pot. Usually you would always historically brew a

1523
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 4: pot of tea that you would pour into its service. Yes,

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 4: and then you would have nothing in the water and

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 4: you put in your condiments, your flavorings, your sugars, whatever

1526
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 4: you need in there, and there's nothing in there.

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Tea bags kind of change that.

1528
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're right, you know wow.

1529
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 4: I would say go back to that if you can.

1530
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 4: And you are right about infusers, the little balls that

1531
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 4: you put in sleeve, yes they are. They haven't really

1532
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: been updated that much because a tea bag took that

1533
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 4: idea and turned it into your own personal one, and

1534
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 4: so it got halted in time. But they did a

1535
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: lot less blends back in the day because they had

1536
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 4: a lot less access to like teas from all over

1537
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 4: the world to make some you know, uh, you know,

1538
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: boutique blend. It was just like, here's some leaves, put

1539
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 4: it in a thing, and so they didn't. They weren't

1540
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 4: necessarily as finely ground, and so they didn't have to

1541
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 4: worry about them coming out of the ball the whole.

1542
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 4: But now the mesh ones that are the more updated

1543
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 4: versions are definitely better. You won't get a lot of

1544
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 4: loose leave.

1545
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: Do you have this at home?

1546
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: I do?

1547
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: Have you you were cooking just now you have a

1548
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: doctorate in tea for free. Doctorate in tea.

1549
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 3: Darling, God, I better go get a real doctorate in tea.

1550
01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: Peppermint, Hey, doctors, do you have something?

1551
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

1552
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: You do?

1553
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 3: You? I do. It's on my phone?

1554
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: Though?

1555
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: Is that okay?

1556
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: Ridiculous?

1557
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 3: This is this is this is the one?

1558
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: So this is Pep's I don't think so, honey, her

1559
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: time starts now, Okay.

1560
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 4: Why is it okay to have a reputation for being

1561
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 4: dishonest and corrupt as a politician? Honey, Voters wake up.

1562
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: Today's corporate politicians are corrupt and greedy and take on

1563
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 4: take bribes instead of protecting us. We have to shift

1564
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 4: away from celebrity and slogans and viral moments and support

1565
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: the platform, not the personality. Honey. Just because the politician

1566
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 4: looks and acts and talks like you does not mean

1567
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 4: that they aren't taking corporate money. My dream is to

1568
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 4: elect some leaders who are black trands with bodies that

1569
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 4: break the mold, and I believe that we will. But

1570
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 4: what we need is what is sorry, But what good

1571
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: is it if they don't support the same If they

1572
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: keep continue to say support the same policies as the

1573
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 4: last guy, I would rather vote for someone who understands

1574
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 4: me and will fight for me but doesn't look like me,

1575
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 4: or vote for me someone who looks like me will

1576
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: just leave me to fend for myself.

1577
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm not having it.

1578
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 4: If we build a diverse community, community of rooted in

1579
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: mutual protection and mutual aid, where everybody understands and honors

1580
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 4: and material needs of one another, we can send someone

1581
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 4: to do the job and hold them accountable if they

1582
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 4: don't do it. So for this version of the Democrats,

1583
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: what I'm more focused on is taking corporate money from

1584
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: electoral politics. That's not going to save us, Honey, I

1585
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: don't think so.

1586
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: Period. Also, bring shoulder birds. It's actually plans day if

1587
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: you do the work to find out what people are about.

1588
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they want us to just kind of like

1589
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 4: go with the surface level of everything because people don't

1590
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 4: have the attentions. Man, but you heard I don't know

1591
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 4: who it is in California, but somebody's running for office

1592
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 4: in California who was like actually a Republican but running

1593
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: under a Democratic ticket.

1594
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 3: Happens all the time. Just go and vote blue, no

1595
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: matter who you're going to vote for.

1596
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 4: This Republican say they will get in and do the

1597
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: same thing and Alifornia that they're doing in all the

1598
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 4: red states in the South right now, like dismantling the

1599
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 4: voting rights. And so it has to be more that

1600
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 4: it can't just be skin folk is my kinfolk, because

1601
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 4: we know that that doesn't work. There's people that are

1602
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 4: on the takee, people that are taking breades. The corporations

1603
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 4: have gotten to them and corrupted and tainted them. And

1604
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 4: now we have to find people who are actually focused

1605
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: on the material needs of each other and all of

1606
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 4: the other things. Identity is very important as somebody's black

1607
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 4: and trans and fam like. It is really important for me,

1608
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 4: but again that's because I want to have access to healthcare.

1609
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it is like you are marginalized as far

1610
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: as being like a constituent goes, right, But in terms

1611
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: of someone who is seeking power, I think we can

1612
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: all benefit from understanding where power comes from and what

1613
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: people do with that power. And there are some people

1614
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: who brandish the power in a way that is, like

1615
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: I was saying earlier, not what they're supposed to be doing.

1616
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: They are not supposed to be bragging about the fact

1617
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: that they have power.

1618
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 4: That's it, and openly talking about wanting to see it

1619
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 4: and use it and sort of, uh, misuse it, because

1620
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 4: that's that's what politics is all about these days.

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01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna, we're gonna fuck those people up, We're take

1622
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 3: their voting. We're gonna buy me, get me ten seats.

1623
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: What.

1624
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 4: But I hope above all this that that that catastrophe

1625
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 4: and the detriment of what's happening to voting rights and

1626
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: the Voting Rights Act in our country but in the South,

1627
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 4: I hope that this inspires people to focus on abolishing

1628
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 4: the electoral college. That's what one hundred person Let's have

1629
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: a direct democracy.

1630
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: Make sense today? And also let's stop talking about it

1631
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: and let's actually do it, because you know how many times,

1632
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, it could get on a whole tangent

1633
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: about the disappointments that we've had to you know, wait

1634
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: to make a change and do something different, and they

1635
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 1: just didn't because they never intended to. But what I

1636
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: what I really am heartened by is the the genuine

1637
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: And this is another like social media is tough in

1638
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: this regard, but people are really talking about what the

1639
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: truth really is in terms of where the money comes from,

1640
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: what it's being used for. Like and I just I

1641
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: really it's not like I'm excited for the breakdown of

1642
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: all the systems that we have because it means it's

1643
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: going to be mess, mess, mess, But it needs to happen,

1644
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: and it's it's happening. And I'm just really excited and

1645
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: heartened by so many of the election results that we see.

1646
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks promising, but we have to just

1647
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: keep saying these things.

1648
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah's worth another our politicians should be learning from us.

1649
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 4: We don't need our politicians to tell to show us

1650
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 4: the way. We will show them the way. It's really

1651
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 4: about what we need as community. That's what they're supposed

1652
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 4: to go and do.

1653
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: Ye, That's it.

1654
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: Another thing too, is just like it's like you see

1655
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: Democrats pretend to listen to their constituents. Like it's like

1656
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: in those videos on Capitol Hill where you see the

1657
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: Republican running away from the constituent. It's like, you know,

1658
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: these these some of the Democrats that are pretending to listen,

1659
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: It's like they might as well be running away. At

1660
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: least the fucking Republican is like, yeah, he's running away.

1661
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: He don't give a fuck. You know, he doesn't care.

1662
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, she doesn't care. You know, Susan Collins doesn't care.

1663
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 3: You don't care, you know what I mean?

1664
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: Like, it's like, that's what retail politics is. It's I'm

1665
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: gonna get on your level and I'm gonna be really

1666
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: good at pretending to promise you everything. That's what that is. Yeah,

1667
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 1: that's acting.

1668
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 3: And then you know it is theatrics.

1669
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 4: I discovered that when I went to DC to lobby

1670
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 4: on behalf of them not cutting Congress, not cutting funding

1671
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 4: for HIV services and medications and things like that, and

1672
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 4: the it is just pure theatrics. It is why it's

1673
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 4: just like transactional and theatrics and there and how well

1674
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 4: they can act like something, y'all.

1675
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 3: It's more theatrical than you think.

1676
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: That's why they call it Hollywood for ugly people. I

1677
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: dated a guy who was who was who was like

1678
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: in worked in news, and he goes to me, well,

1679
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: you know they don't do anything on purpose. Yeah, he's like,

1680
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, they deadlock on purpose, because if there's no

1681
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: drama on the hill, if they're there's no back and forth,

1682
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: then they don't have them. They can't raise money, there's

1683
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: no reason for them to be voted for. There's no

1684
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: issues for them to fight about and stand on. They

1685
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: don't have brands.

1686
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 3: It's like this. It's like, okay, oh my gosh, you

1687
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 3: said you want a napkin. Here, here you go. Here's

1688
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 3: your napkin. Here's your nappin way.

1689
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: Oh you don't well, I guess you'll have to raise

1690
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 4: Can you give me more money and raise more money.

1691
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 4: We'll do it again next time for forty years. Bitch,

1692
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 4: pick up the napkin and give it.

1693
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1694
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: Fuck this ship, this ship, this shit. Wait, Laray shout

1695
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: out to this is stuck with This is sticky for me.

1696
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: Laray Ray in her first fuck this ship, this ship,

1697
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 2: she stood up, she grabbed her person, she was out.

1698
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: Fuck this ship is also a front runner for title. Yeah,

1699
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: pretty good. We absolutely love you. We're so like proud

1700
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: to that you've come on the show and that when

1701
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: we see you you're always kicking ass and just evolving

1702
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: and just making everyone just feel a little bit more

1703
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: optimistic and informed and entertained. So you really are just

1704
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: one of.

1705
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: The greats fucking legend for all time. See you at

1706
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: the March, Love you day, drink the tea, and.

1707
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 3: Tune into Netflix for survival Thickets on in a week.

1708
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: On July July, even talk about Michelle but Che. Anyway,

1709
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: it's politics, it's tea, it's it's it's television, it's all

1710
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: of it, all right.

1711
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 2: And we we end every episode with the song mmm, and.

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01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: You don't remember how you s hold me, Mariah? Okay,

1713
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: we'll start wait wait what song is that?

1714
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 3: Though?

1715
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: And you don't remember you went for a deep cut?

1716
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: I know, I know I went for a deep I

1717
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. I don't think I remember that

1718
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: from emotions. Oh wow, okay, wow, I I have I

1719
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: have deeper cut my ryae than listen, just.

1720
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: Because maybe maybe it's because of my stone or brain.

1721
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: Let's just do this one. Tell me, just keep on

1722
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: coming back and say, sly Hollo, did you have to

1723
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: run your game home? I should have known right from

1724
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 1: the start. You go and make my home.

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Last.

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Speaker 2: Cultureacis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players

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01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,

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01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,040
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