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Speaker 1: we're gonna continue and you're looking backwards. Just a tad
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy's finishing press conference into the
Speaker 1: season press conference that he had yesterday, and then look
Speaker 1: ahead to what is next for the Cowboys. Gentlemen, how
Speaker 1: how are we doing today? Being great? Great smooth ride
Speaker 1: coming in Yeah, no issues for me, zero issues? What
Speaker 1: about you? Good? Yeah? Was all right, not really for
Speaker 1: those who have you wondering, I got I got the
Speaker 1: uh got the ticket? I mean you got you told
Speaker 1: me pulled over, but you actually gotta Yeah. I hate
Speaker 1: to see it, man, Yeah. First first people to know too.
Speaker 1: I haven't told anybody else. All right, that's okay. He
Speaker 1: was still made it all time. I did it. The
Speaker 1: reason why is because Nick, you just says, hey, you
Speaker 1: ever watched the Cowboys break? Yeah? Yeah, I'm Nick. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: n don't be late. I love the poet. I've been
Speaker 1: pulled over twice on my birthday before. Seriously, wow, And
Speaker 1: I don't know and both times I did that did happen?
Speaker 1: One time? Going to which to follows, that guy pulled
Speaker 1: me over on the right side of the road. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a highway. He rolled the window down. We talked
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he just started leaning in and
Speaker 1: was like, I listened to y'all this podcast all the time.
Speaker 1: What's going what's going on with the Eagles, the game
Speaker 1: this week? And I was just like, are We sat
Speaker 1: there for a while, you know, cars whipping by. But
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not gonna get a ticket, I'll
Speaker 1: do this. Guy said, if the Cowboys would have won
Speaker 1: on Sunday, I wouldn't have gotten a ticket. I'm totally
Speaker 1: kidding now, I'm killing I was on this. I'm on
Speaker 1: a bad streak. Man. I've gotten pulled over a couple
Speaker 1: of times and I haven't had a warning yet. I've
Speaker 1: gotten it every single time. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just have an unlikable face, which fair, but
Speaker 1: they just don't like my face and they give me
Speaker 1: probably because you give them the voice the all time.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, officer, what was I doing over? I thought
Speaker 1: without signaling, you give them the voice. Nate's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, go oh no, no, I love it, man.
Speaker 1: This first time I've seen Nate smile. No. This is
Speaker 1: our show, you know. This is what we do. What
Speaker 1: I show is we never start with football. It's always
Speaker 1: of the problem. You got to. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: on the post game show or the pregame show. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm on like this, y'all are on? Was
Speaker 1: it the pregame show? Yeah? Post gave you a part
Speaker 1: of both times. But I don't see it. I don't
Speaker 1: see that. I don't see what y'all did the other day.
Speaker 1: I sound like that was pretty awesome. It was the
Speaker 1: best I know what we were. We were better than
Speaker 1: the football team, am I probably that I know, kind
Speaker 1: of let us know that. Yeah, we didn't know. No,
Speaker 1: I was giving credit to other people. No, Cowboys just
Speaker 1: certain players. Yeah, you're right about that. The Cowboys were
Speaker 1: just certain parts. Yeah, that's so true, and that's what's
Speaker 1: most frustrating. Yeah, which parts. Let's start who sucked the most?
Speaker 1: My offensive line. You hit a spot on with that one.
Speaker 1: My offensive line, along with the offensive line coach that's
Speaker 1: connected to the offensive coordinator. Yeah, and you're taking that
Speaker 1: personally because you have been saying for a while, especially Fieldman,
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I love them to death. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: I would have been on the table when when when
Speaker 1: coach Moore Kellen Moore's name right would have walked then
Speaker 1: from up there, I probably would have been beating him
Speaker 1: down the elevator because you don't do that to your
Speaker 1: offensive line. You don't take away the littit of physicalness
Speaker 1: they have in trying to run and move people. You
Speaker 1: just let these dudes boring to them the whole game.
Speaker 1: You don't know what that feels like to get into huddle. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: Another past. I know we're getting beat to death, but
Speaker 1: let's get beat some more. That's this hardness. Is it
Speaker 1: as simple as that, If just the balance of just
Speaker 1: a couple more run attempts we were talking about it
Speaker 1: before the show, even just a couple more attempts to
Speaker 1: give your offensive line just a tad bit of a
Speaker 1: just something we knew going in, every one of us
Speaker 1: what they were good at. They were a physical team.
Speaker 1: They were a team that mentally read it to do
Speaker 1: whatever it took physically. We knew this. Me and you,
Speaker 1: we're the only ones like forget. We were cowboy down
Speaker 1: all week. We didn't want to hear it. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you gotta acknowledge who they are. We get the coin toss,
Speaker 1: we win, and we like, we know what you like
Speaker 1: to do, and we're gonna give it to you first.
Speaker 1: That whole game came out wrong. I would have put
Speaker 1: my offense out there first. If we're to fail, fine
Speaker 1: and back us up defense. You always have since the
Speaker 1: eighth game of the year. You've always taken care of us.
Speaker 1: But don't don't go out there. And that was just
Speaker 1: bad and offensively that was bad. That was bad on
Speaker 1: our quarterback. This game fell apart out of the first drive.
Speaker 1: After you let them score that seven, this game fell apart.
Speaker 1: Joy Bosa Shooman Nick Bosa was all over our right tackle,
Speaker 1: all over him. Eric Armstead was on in the middle
Speaker 1: of my offensive line. Why did you do that? And
Speaker 1: then we gotta beat up left tackle. You know, you
Speaker 1: know tyronn is one of the best. You could tell
Speaker 1: he was. You don't lose it that quick. So you
Speaker 1: when he started struggling, somebody said the total quarterback man,
Speaker 1: just take off a couple of times. Take this pressure
Speaker 1: off your offensive line. You let the whole offensive line
Speaker 1: collapse from the first drive to the end of the game.
Speaker 1: That's not right. You don't you don't do that. You
Speaker 1: don't do that because you have to face these guys
Speaker 1: when you come into the locker room and you have
Speaker 1: to say something to them besides yeah, you got given
Speaker 1: to you this day. That was wrong. If anything, you
Speaker 1: would just like to see the attempts at least, like
Speaker 1: we always talk about this the show, like you don't
Speaker 1: have to rush for one hundred fifty yards, you don't
Speaker 1: have to rush for one hundred and sixty yards. But
Speaker 1: if you give the attempts to these running backs at
Speaker 1: least it'll keep the defense honest. Like, look what the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers did. They were rushing four players the
Speaker 1: majority of the time. I mean they blissed occasionally here
Speaker 1: and there, but the mass majority of it, it was
Speaker 1: a four man rush. And to the way to get
Speaker 1: their ears unpinned back is all they were doing. They
Speaker 1: was pinning their ears back and going because they were like, look,
Speaker 1: these guys ain't running the ball. All they're gonna do
Speaker 1: is pass the ball. So we're gonna come at them.
Speaker 1: But every time, every play. The way you do that
Speaker 1: is you give them attempts, make them be honest with it,
Speaker 1: sit there and say, all right, is this a passers
Speaker 1: to run they don't think, make them hesitate a little bit.
Speaker 1: But we didn't do that. And like you said, Nate,
Speaker 1: we let them pinning their ears back and get after
Speaker 1: our tackles, get after the interior of our our offensive line.
Speaker 1: And they were in Dak Prescott's lap the entire game.
Speaker 1: And not only did it take away just the pure
Speaker 1: aspect of running the football, because the run game was
Speaker 1: not existent in its own right. But what did the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do better than almost any other team in the
Speaker 1: NFL that's play action. Like their success rate on play
Speaker 1: action all year long had been one of the highest,
Speaker 1: top five in the NFL, maybe the highest. I'd have
Speaker 1: to go back and look, and they never got to
Speaker 1: set that up because there was no run game. With
Speaker 1: the absence of a run game, there's no play action.
Speaker 1: And a part of that too, is the fact that
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers don't don't rush more than four
Speaker 1: most of the time, so they're not worried about your
Speaker 1: play action because they're stopping your run anyway. So they
Speaker 1: got the seven the problem that I had, and I
Speaker 1: agree with with both y'all about the run. But remember
Speaker 1: the Tampa game way back years ago, back in makee one.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't even try to run the ball.
Speaker 1: But what they did was is they did a lot
Speaker 1: of those bubble screens. They went wide on everything. They went.
Speaker 1: Tony Poller today has spread everything out and we're not
Speaker 1: going to attempt this. But the forty nine again, they didn't.
Speaker 1: Not only did they not attempt it, they didn't even
Speaker 1: try to do that. They just tried to kind of
Speaker 1: throw through that thing. And they're asking dak to be
Speaker 1: PenPoint accurate. That is not his strength. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's not accurate. That's not a strength though. His strength
Speaker 1: is playing on the run, moving, you know, keeping him
Speaker 1: off balance, and I don't think they did that. I
Speaker 1: am so glad we're not having shows every day, no,
Speaker 1: because mister Jones probably calling him in his office and
Speaker 1: set you know, dude, like he did. You know the
Speaker 1: two receivers, you know, Dad's and uh t o and say,
Speaker 1: you know, there's the team here, you here and we
Speaker 1: over here and neither one of us. Won't you anymore?
Speaker 1: You what are you really saying? They're saying, yea, you
Speaker 1: put your tongue. You have been a fireman man, because
Speaker 1: you you couldn't have drew up a worst game playing
Speaker 1: than what we did to our team. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: from players. See, you couldn't have drew up or worse
Speaker 1: game plan. It took us all the way and Kyle,
Speaker 1: we heard me crying the whole game. It took us
Speaker 1: to the third quarter to realize that they was giving
Speaker 1: us to tight end that old game. It took us
Speaker 1: to the third quarter to realize that it that from
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and for five yards they gave
Speaker 1: it to us. Hey man, what about a quick slant
Speaker 1: we have Nobody can run a slant? What about a
Speaker 1: quick end and out? Why option we had? Nobody can
Speaker 1: do that. They I knew they had Fred Warner, I
Speaker 1: knew they had Armstead, and I knew for a little
Speaker 1: while they had Bozza, But come on, man, all week long,
Speaker 1: I heard this man and this gentleman reiterate, hey man,
Speaker 1: they have no secondary. So that's mean let's get some
Speaker 1: quick passes, let's make some things pop, and we could
Speaker 1: have been in this game. It wouldn't have came down
Speaker 1: to I don't even want to talk about a guy
Speaker 1: sliding for just at an opportunity to throw the balls
Speaker 1: twenty two yards and to the end zone and we're
Speaker 1: even talking about that. Come on that. That don't make
Speaker 1: no sense. To next point, no go for it. So so
Speaker 1: so the next point, it was, you know that same
Speaker 1: they were playing so far off. I mean we saw
Speaker 1: it in the show. They were playing cover four, cover
Speaker 1: three the entire time, and it wasn't like they were
Speaker 1: pressing our receivers on the outside. They were playing about
Speaker 1: four or five yards off. So the next point, why
Speaker 1: didn't we bring that same Tampa type offense where we're
Speaker 1: getting our playmakers the ball in space. Throw a little bubble,
Speaker 1: like you said to Tony Pollard, let him do damage.
Speaker 1: Good little hitch to CD. Lamb out there. He had
Speaker 1: one catch for twenty one yards. Do you talk about
Speaker 1: the leading receiver statistically wise for the Cowboys had one catch.
Speaker 1: He was out targeted by their fourth option, said Wilson
Speaker 1: by two times, said had ten targets. CD had five.
Speaker 1: To me that that's unexcusable and it has to go
Speaker 1: on the offensive coordinator. Frederick Wilson had ten targets, ten targets,
Speaker 1: ten targets and five receptions and the last ball of
Speaker 1: the game and he got the last Oh, you're talking
Speaker 1: about talking about the fourth and eleven, the drive prior
Speaker 1: to the final drive, but one we thought was going
Speaker 1: to be the final drive. Ten targets day. How do
Speaker 1: you this? This is what I don't understand. And you
Speaker 1: call it economics. I call it common sense. I love
Speaker 1: where this is going economics, and everybody buckle up. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have either one you you
Speaker 1: you give a running back average of ten million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. You give a wide receiver twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, that don't add up, Fellas, that's all
Speaker 1: you gotta say. So I running back get twelve carriers
Speaker 1: and I'll and our number one receiver get six to
Speaker 1: seven targets. Let me let me say this part about
Speaker 1: about that. And I think that this is we kind
Speaker 1: of credited them all year long. Like I love the
Speaker 1: fact that Dak doesn't really care this receiver, this receiver
Speaker 1: that get along its kumbaya all the time. It's great,
Speaker 1: But we ran into issues four or five years ago
Speaker 1: when one particular wide receiver who was making more than
Speaker 1: anyone else was wanting the football all the time. So
Speaker 1: then Dak was like, all right, I won't try to
Speaker 1: get him the ball and give him fifteen sixteen targets.
Speaker 1: But it didn't it's not good for the offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's got to be a balance in And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that you're wrong, but I mean, I agree
Speaker 1: with that Cooper is gonna make this money CD, you
Speaker 1: gotta get him the football. But part of what was
Speaker 1: making this work was that Dak was trusting his read.
Speaker 1: He wasn't worried about one diva receiver upset all the time.
Speaker 1: But there's that there's gotta be a balance. There's gotta
Speaker 1: be a balance. I mean, there's got to go into
Speaker 1: to the game plan. It's got to be that way,
Speaker 1: because I think what's happened is they're just looking at
Speaker 1: the checks and what's happening. Schultz, Schultz, Schultz. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't score a lot of points all the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So does that go back
Speaker 1: to Dak being in his head a little bit too much? Though?
Speaker 1: That's kind of been part of the conversation because if
Speaker 1: it's not the injury and it's not his capability, then
Speaker 1: what is it. It's got to be something in his head, right,
Speaker 1: So that's one hundred forty million dollar question. Let's go
Speaker 1: back to the second part there. Okay, capability, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's he capable of doing? I mean, like I I
Speaker 1: think that is is a really good quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: think he is the greatest quarterback that that can do
Speaker 1: it all by himself. He can't go into like Green
Speaker 1: Bay with Alan Lazard and whatever and drag them to
Speaker 1: the championship game like Rogers is doing. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, he needs help. He's not getting that.
Speaker 1: He came into this league as a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: and had this offensive line and a running game. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have that anymore. He needs that. He needs help.
Speaker 1: And there's it's okay to have make forty million a
Speaker 1: year and still need help. That's the way. What quarterbacks
Speaker 1: playing this weekend doesn't need help? One probably one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's only one that's that need helps. Towne Hill is, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're saying it the other way. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: need help. I mean, I'm gonna tell you something. Do
Speaker 1: it with the mic push. This is what I tell people.
Speaker 1: I remember three weeks ago, four weeks ago, some idiot
Speaker 1: took off all his clothes and just jump Jack right
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, I remember that guy in town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Barrys say it's over. I said, no, it's not. I said,
Speaker 1: they got Ton Brady. Even stand back on it's over.
Speaker 1: They got Tom Brady. Okay, So two guys don't need
Speaker 1: help two guys. What I'm trying to tell you is
Speaker 1: if you know your guy needs help. I've been saying
Speaker 1: this for four weeks and I'm gonna say it all
Speaker 1: off season. I'm said, and I need the rookie dag back,
Speaker 1: that guy that was so impactful in other ways besides
Speaker 1: throwing the ball that when it came time to make
Speaker 1: that play, he could be a little more accurate because
Speaker 1: they was worried about other things too. When you just
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna put this on his back, that is
Speaker 1: unfair because you paid him knowing his liabilities as well
Speaker 1: as his assets, and now you're trying to play more
Speaker 1: to his liabilities than his assets. You're not gonna win
Speaker 1: any games. You're not gonna win the big games. His
Speaker 1: asset is doing everything that read option. Do we do
Speaker 1: a lot of that now where he has the multiple
Speaker 1: chances of either running the ball, throwing the ball, or
Speaker 1: handing the ball. Did we see a lot of that?
Speaker 1: We see a lot of drop back. Did we see
Speaker 1: him rolling out, moving around when the pocket collapsed early?
Speaker 1: Did he take off his slide and get those three
Speaker 1: yards in Himore? None of that? Those are all assets. No,
Speaker 1: we're dropping him back, Okay, make a read, make a
Speaker 1: read or teams are dropping him back now saying you
Speaker 1: gotta this read gonna build a little bit longer. And
Speaker 1: when you get into the playoffs or towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year, here those four or five guys become
Speaker 1: detrimental to your life. But you're gonna stand there. No,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You have to go back to
Speaker 1: who what makes you? You improve on what makes you?
Speaker 1: You don't improve on what your weaknesses is. You can't
Speaker 1: because that's not you. So do you think these coaches
Speaker 1: put him into high regard like they think he's, you know,
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks that can do it on his
Speaker 1: own without a running game. You feel like they put
Speaker 1: him up there too high. Yeah, he can't. He can't.
Speaker 1: Every time we've played a team where the quarterback was
Speaker 1: equal to him, a better that a quarterback that was
Speaker 1: equal a better one. See, I love that. And I
Speaker 1: was beating paid that, getting eighty million dollars because I
Speaker 1: thought we was gonna pay for the deck that we've seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not that with no run game. Not the dock that
Speaker 1: not's gonna run, not gonna run. And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm getting out of him? Man for mister Jones and
Speaker 1: call me because I got to tell the truth. No,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But but you want rookie dock
Speaker 1: I get. How about the center that was snapping him
Speaker 1: the ball, the whole offensive line? How about twenty sixteen? Uh?
Speaker 1: Tyring um? I bet, I bet they would like to
Speaker 1: have rookie Dack's contract. You know, great thing. But the
Speaker 1: thing is when we had those bad games before that
Speaker 1: would take off and run and slide. I ain't saying
Speaker 1: running with somebody on your back and drag somebody, but
Speaker 1: don't put yourself in This game was in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Were sitting up there eating in the stadium. It was great.
Speaker 1: I was and I thought I saw the first drive
Speaker 1: for both the offensive defense. I looked over at Church.
Speaker 1: I looked over this game over. I said that too,
Speaker 1: this game after the opening drive ten nothing, Yeah, nothing.
Speaker 1: I have a buddy that texts me every game and
Speaker 1: and usually it's a coin toss. They lose it running
Speaker 1: and it's just something negative. He's like, it's over, and
Speaker 1: that's just his way of throwing it out there. But
Speaker 1: when he said that, and I said, I agree, and
Speaker 1: I never knew us say shut up. When was tech?
Speaker 1: I thought it was over, I got they got bullet
Speaker 1: and nobody, nobody made an attempt to change it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had no response. Yeah, the players didn't change it,
Speaker 1: the coaches didn't change it. And I'm saying to myself
Speaker 1: and the people that had the chance to change it
Speaker 1: was coach kell him and that I'm not gonna blast
Speaker 1: coach mccarthur one way another, I'm not until this next
Speaker 1: season start, and then if you don't have more input
Speaker 1: into what is happening on this team, because I read
Speaker 1: something saying I've been I've been in this league before,
Speaker 1: I've been a playoff coach. I know what it takes
Speaker 1: to win. If you know that right there, you would
Speaker 1: have knew that running that ball was very, very necessary,
Speaker 1: or running a bunch of screens, which all of his
Speaker 1: teams at Green Bay were very, very good screen And
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to talk about some
Speaker 1: of the things that McCarthy said specifically in his press conference,
Speaker 1: because he felt like they were in a good position.
Speaker 1: He said it, We felt like we were in the
Speaker 1: best position we could have been going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So why was that execution? Was that a lack of adjustments?
Speaker 1: Was that the coaching staff was that the personnel will
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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's almost almost went through that whole like process,
Speaker 1: and like you were saying with pregame and post game,
Speaker 1: I almost went through y'all's two's name and instead of
Speaker 1: saying my own name. I almost said isaiahs Day almost
Speaker 1: did it just because of the holes off the tongue,
Speaker 1: and that's the way it has been. But I look
Speaker 1: like Isaiah a little bit lighter, put some drigs and
Speaker 1: didn't get a perfect perfect match. Probably in better shape
Speaker 1: than me, just slightly, just slightly. A guy who does
Speaker 1: not didn't meet man. He showed eat some sweets, hey
Speaker 1: them crow nuts whatever. Whatever happened to? Like where somebody's
Speaker 1: supposed to race, Like, what's going on? It's supposed to
Speaker 1: having the spring supposed to what's the deal is it
Speaker 1: Isaiah versus you? It's like a whole Olympic thing, right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have, like, you know, a race out there,
Speaker 1: and we're doing something where Naken joy us as well
Speaker 1: contest something like ribs on there. It's like getting these
Speaker 1: bean bags and throw them through a whole. I don't
Speaker 1: like saying the words NA, no, not really, we can
Speaker 1: do that too, Yeah, I called bean waitings were talking
Speaker 1: cowboys and so that was something that like Chris was like,
Speaker 1: what can I do? The guy spoke all y'all, I
Speaker 1: ride with it. I'll ride with it. Does he have
Speaker 1: his own He probably got his own bag made knew it.
Speaker 1: Y'all can get in on this, yea, y'all can get
Speaker 1: in on it. Gets me and Chris, I have more
Speaker 1: than one set of backs boards, aero dynamic, everything. Man,
Speaker 1: come out to training camp with us, and you'll hear
Speaker 1: just like every night, shoot it right by Derek's door.
Speaker 1: And then a good idea I had. I had being
Speaker 1: beat one time I was up on him. He wasn't
Speaker 1: really paying that much attention or something. I don't know
Speaker 1: what was gonna be locked in And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're playing the twenty one. I mean it was like
Speaker 1: seventeen to like ten. I was like this being through
Speaker 1: like four in a row like that didn't even hit.
Speaker 1: He just swished four in a row, just twelve points
Speaker 1: and I didn't get anything on the board and I lost,
Speaker 1: just like what's the score? And I was like, seventeen ten,
Speaker 1: what's good? A second? And he seriously seen so you know,
Speaker 1: when we score the spring come, I'm gonna be ready.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop practice. I gotta see him, man, I
Speaker 1: gotta see it to believe. I can't wait. Are we winning? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm winning. I don't know what the rest of my team.
Speaker 1: I gotta be what you're getting in there. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: win in a race between you and Danny Danny? Danny
Speaker 1: was always fast. Danny was always fast. So my boys,
Speaker 1: stand back, ain't fasting you. I just asked about him
Speaker 1: away chance against Dan. Danny didn't eat for three months.
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's back to normal sing again, I
Speaker 1: think so. I mean he gained his way back a
Speaker 1: little bit, so we were gonna see. You're gonna see,
Speaker 1: but he was always back. Can't get you. Now he's
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the list now like he wasn't
Speaker 1: even just like he thinks he's he's gonna win the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and you do that not giving him say
Speaker 1: he is what makes you believe that? Just because it
Speaker 1: was because because I know somebody that can't dance, I
Speaker 1: always what dance. It got through. I can tell you why,
Speaker 1: I think so. Why is that two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: Felix Jones kickoff returned against the Eagles. I saw him running,
Speaker 1: but I saw Isaiah way back over here and running
Speaker 1: as fast. I mean, he outran everybody like I saw
Speaker 1: a ton of were talking fifteen years ago for you too,
Speaker 1: though we talk about that. I wasn't even in the
Speaker 1: league in old Wait, so what you're talking about? Playing
Speaker 1: the youth card? Were going on here? We're going about
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Barry's got some arrow dynamic advantages.
Speaker 1: All I know is when the cameras get as brightest
Speaker 1: and it's time to shine, somebody to back out on me?
Speaker 1: What was what? What hap? I had to save your knees.
Speaker 1: You had to save your knees. Barry did back out
Speaker 1: of dance. So I save your knees with that twice?
Speaker 1: You saved my knee. D I know what? He hits
Speaker 1: his next I met you know what we're really doing here?
Speaker 1: Like Kyle, like, what's that really happened? As we're getting
Speaker 1: Nate smiling again last really very smile man, smile. I
Speaker 1: need to go back out of Dan and get mel
Speaker 1: Blooney's in that. That's that's good, that's good. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: was all smiles until about man seven o'clock on Sunday,
Speaker 1: maybe a little earlier, maybe like three forty five second
Speaker 1: Sunday we was outside watching it on the Titan. He
Speaker 1: was back for a second. He was for a second
Speaker 1: when Schultz caught the pass the drive second to last drive,
Speaker 1: which we thought was the last drive. You know, they
Speaker 1: got ninety yards to go get thirty eight yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all thinking they're gonna do this. I was definitely now.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna score. Dude, I think they
Speaker 1: were gonna take the lead. I wasn't sure just yet
Speaker 1: that they would take the lead. You know when I
Speaker 1: saw the slide. I saw the slide in a review
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, because it was talk about it up
Speaker 1: into that shows deal. I stopped watching the game because
Speaker 1: it was over. It was it was. It was. He
Speaker 1: was asking the team that was mentally beat and that
Speaker 1: they was fighting. The Warriors fight, but it was mentally beaten. Bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they was. They was they was beaten. I will I
Speaker 1: will back him up on this because when the almost
Speaker 1: fumble happened with greg Or with George Kittle, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: way the ball hit the ground, everyone on that stage
Speaker 1: was freaking out. I mean everybody. We were jumping around
Speaker 1: and I thought it was there and Nate was just
Speaker 1: sitting there. Yeah, Nate was planted at his at his table.
Speaker 1: He had already I'm almost certain he had the headset already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was already at that point. He never
Speaker 1: really got to the we're gonna do this sort of
Speaker 1: like dragging along. And I'm sure there are Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: out there that were the same way, that were just
Speaker 1: like all right, like this is gonna happen. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get close and then it's gonna let us down. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was tough. It was tough. Now, kind of going
Speaker 1: back to our conversation in the last segment and also
Speaker 1: tying in what Mike McCarthy had to say yesterday, he
Speaker 1: had about a forty five minute press conference and kind
Speaker 1: of tied a bow on the regular season. Nick, did
Speaker 1: anything specifically stand out to you about what McCarthy said
Speaker 1: yesterday and kind of the way that that game kind
Speaker 1: of conspired toward the end, Well, I mean, whatever he
Speaker 1: saw in their faces, he thought they were nervous. He
Speaker 1: tried to take it back and change the wording, but
Speaker 1: you know, he saw something as a coach has been
Speaker 1: doing it for a long time, and whatever he saw
Speaker 1: on their on their face, he didn't he didn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, and um, you know it played out
Speaker 1: that way. They played out to nothing thirteen nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I don't know specifically what it was, but
Speaker 1: that's one thing that that kind of stood out. I
Speaker 1: mean some of the other stuff was kind of coach
Speaker 1: speak a little bit. I didn't think a lot came
Speaker 1: out of that. I mean, what about y'all. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something. All I read was the statement he
Speaker 1: made about the playoff team. You know what it looks
Speaker 1: like and what it takes, and that that probably wasn't
Speaker 1: even a part of his press conference. But you have
Speaker 1: to help your players. One thing that Jimmy was good
Speaker 1: at was looking at his team. And if you know
Speaker 1: that your team is tight, you got to have something
Speaker 1: there for him. If you look at your players and
Speaker 1: I see everybody's tight, not smiling, or they're doing something
Speaker 1: out of character, you have to have a player are
Speaker 1: a situation that you can allude to to help them
Speaker 1: break that. All right, that being said, I got defensive guy,
Speaker 1: offensive guy here. You think your team's a little bit tight,
Speaker 1: you go out there and you got have a chance
Speaker 1: you win the toss. As if your team's you know,
Speaker 1: you got the crowd, you got the white towels going.
Speaker 1: You think it's better to go out and execute on offense,
Speaker 1: or you think it's better to go play fast on defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw what happened defensively, but generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I would have thinken a tight team would be better
Speaker 1: to play defense. And that's my thinking. I'm always thinking, well,
Speaker 1: I'm a defense I'm a little bit based, but I
Speaker 1: think you gotta put a defense out there first, because
Speaker 1: usually your defense is your tone setters. They're gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and if they're gonna either smack him in
Speaker 1: the mouth and get the ball back for your offense
Speaker 1: and your offense takes off from there, or like we've seen,
Speaker 1: you know in that San Francisco game, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: bullied in that first driving They scored pretty much easily
Speaker 1: going down the field running the football, and that set
Speaker 1: the tone for the whole game. After they saw the
Speaker 1: defense get bullied him back down into the end zone,
Speaker 1: the offense is like, oh man, here we go again.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have one of those great games.
Speaker 1: And when your offense isn't performing as great as it
Speaker 1: has been the rest of the hiss just to play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here, just because of the lack of confidence
Speaker 1: that was on the offensive side of the ball, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, initially, your first thought is going to be
Speaker 1: let's throw the defense out there. Let's let them set
Speaker 1: the tone and then when things go wrong, it goes
Speaker 1: really wrong, which is what happened. Yeah, why would you
Speaker 1: or would there be a possibility rather of throwing the
Speaker 1: offense out there and saying, we have confidence that you're
Speaker 1: gonna go set the tone because the lack of confidence
Speaker 1: in the lack of execution that they had had previously,
Speaker 1: or you could build off of the fact that they
Speaker 1: had two in the last three regular season games where
Speaker 1: they had fifty plus points. Hey, you go set the tone.
Speaker 1: Here's your offense. We invested our money on that side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Let it happen, you said at all,
Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't believe that you have
Speaker 1: your best players, this is let me say this right quickly.
Speaker 1: The most resilient coach on this team, our set of
Speaker 1: coaches on this team was our defense. And what I
Speaker 1: mean by that, their first six games, they were decimated,
Speaker 1: and coach made it all happen. He kept these guys together.
Speaker 1: He kept everybody playing just good enough to our offense
Speaker 1: continue to run. Our offense took a major turn seventh
Speaker 1: to eighth game into the season, but our defense got
Speaker 1: players bag and they kept this thing at a high level,
Speaker 1: whereas our offense just put them on. What we needed
Speaker 1: for this game here is for our offense to step
Speaker 1: up and try to run the ball, to try to
Speaker 1: take some time off. Because one thing I've always said
Speaker 1: is if our defense plays in less than thirty minutes
Speaker 1: twenty nine fifty nine, if they played less than thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: they could make plays. They can make big plays. They
Speaker 1: can they can turn the ball over because they're fresh.
Speaker 1: But if we don't make an attempt at doing that
Speaker 1: right there, and we're going to be the team that's
Speaker 1: playing the twenty nine fifty nine, we're gonna lose the game.
Speaker 1: I would to put my offense out there and I
Speaker 1: out to call what Nick Saban like to say, do
Speaker 1: not waste a play. That means, if we have to
Speaker 1: run the ball, do not put a tight end out
Speaker 1: there that has not blocked nobody all year so he
Speaker 1: can hit us three yards in the backfield. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put them big hogs out there. Seven am I probable
Speaker 1: to addressed eight of them, and we're just start moving
Speaker 1: down the field periodically with Zeke. But we didn't do that.
Speaker 1: We put the defense out there, got hit in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Then we put the offer. It's out there. What it's
Speaker 1: hard behind tight end is they got hitting the mob.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. You got to draft a run.
Speaker 1: We got to get us some run tight end. And
Speaker 1: of course what what ended up happening was worst case
Speaker 1: scenario anyway, So it's it's all a mood point. But
Speaker 1: at least you can go back and look at it
Speaker 1: and say, maybe the offense would have had a better
Speaker 1: shot if they would have went out there first. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe I've heard I mean, it's hard to argue
Speaker 1: that now once you saw it, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I've heard coaches say, you know, they even look
Speaker 1: at the crowd and go, well, look what the crowd
Speaker 1: is going to be like on defense for them to
Speaker 1: start the game versus at the end of the halftime,
Speaker 1: which people still think halftime is thirty minutes because of
Speaker 1: high school when it's only fourteen. So they go out
Speaker 1: and they do whatever, and they get you know, standing
Speaker 1: in line to come back, and i mean, look at
Speaker 1: look it's as empty, ye quiet, it's easy for teams
Speaker 1: to move the ball. So I've heard, I mean coaches
Speaker 1: have said that too. I mean, they really looked at
Speaker 1: the science of that. But more than anything, you know
Speaker 1: what the science wasn't he you know what the science was.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite hat. You had the ball, You
Speaker 1: had the ball coming out and it makes so bad.
Speaker 1: They said, you know, we get a second trial. We're
Speaker 1: gonna show you again while you ain't no good boom,
Speaker 1: they get a block rough in the past. Okay, you
Speaker 1: got another chance again. What did you do? This is
Speaker 1: why I'm telling you this, dude, do the draft show, right, yep.
Speaker 1: If y'all are not beating down the walls for a second,
Speaker 1: third or fourth round pick offensive lineman, if y'all not
Speaker 1: beating down the walls for a third, fourth or fifth
Speaker 1: round blocking tight end something, it's gonna be. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the same next year, it's gonna be the same
Speaker 1: because if you can't run the ball against the big
Speaker 1: boy teams, which you got a first place schedule, if
Speaker 1: you can't run the ball, and it's gonna all be
Speaker 1: about passing. Yeah, well, I mean, well quick, be quick.
Speaker 1: Being so arrogant and thinking that that your center is
Speaker 1: get the job he can't. All year along, we said
Speaker 1: all year that this guy I mean and they didn't
Speaker 1: give any competition. Then they just said here's our guy
Speaker 1: and and it didn't make Sometimes you have to do
Speaker 1: that sometimes, Yeah, for confidence saying no, no, sometimes you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lesser player because they probably didn't have
Speaker 1: no dominoes to slap down there. The competition left and
Speaker 1: it was looney. Yeah when he left. Wow, there's a competition.
Speaker 1: But it's guys. We know that we can't talk right
Speaker 1: now because they tell us that's tampering. But you may
Speaker 1: know something, but this center's out there. Yeah, but are
Speaker 1: they willing to pay? Are we so backed up on
Speaker 1: the cap that we can't get these guys? But you
Speaker 1: knew in order for your two tackles to survive, we
Speaker 1: had to have a strong middle. We didn't have that
Speaker 1: strong middle. Well to me that they bought one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty million dollar house, they invested in the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anybody that buys a house like that that cowboys just
Speaker 1: bought better get him a damn fence, the protect retaining
Speaker 1: wall and then big retating wall. Man like Church got
Speaker 1: round his creed. You're protecting. You gotta protect that asset.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like Eric abagu here, which
Speaker 1: is I don't even know what that reference. But you
Speaker 1: gotta protect the HA got to protect it well. And
Speaker 1: if you look at it now moving forward, do you
Speaker 1: have a chance to to redo that offensive line? And Nate,
Speaker 1: you said third or fourth round offensive line pick, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be banging it down in the first round. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be banging on that door at twenty four saying
Speaker 1: if one of these guys falls. There's a guy from Iowa,
Speaker 1: Lyndon bamb Is, a soon center from Iowa. If he
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get him either unless you
Speaker 1: trade up to go get him, or if he pulls
Speaker 1: a ceed Lamb, I would run to the starting back.
Speaker 1: I would do that one again, are you gonna do
Speaker 1: I would totally one. I would do it for Linden
Speaker 1: Bam So I would totally so A center for y'all
Speaker 1: the main priority offensive line need that. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: in terms of fit, but yes, because of I love
Speaker 1: the value at twenty four. I mean at twenty four,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to get any other position, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hardest. Think you're not gonna get a top left tackle,
Speaker 1: but a garter center at twenty four, you're probably getting
Speaker 1: the second, maybe third best guy and if and if
Speaker 1: there's a stud like that, and I where that means
Speaker 1: the second best center is probably pretty good. To just
Speaker 1: think about Frederick at thirty two, everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this pick, but it turned out to be it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a boring pick, especially when the last two picks
Speaker 1: in the first round for you have been Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: and Mike Parsons. You've had two really exciting picks this year.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like one of them and one of
Speaker 1: them can't get the ball because the center is not
Speaker 1: any good good point, but it affects everything. It does.
Speaker 1: The reason why rookie Dak was rookie Dak is because
Speaker 1: you took the boring pick with Zach Martin and Tyler
Speaker 1: Frederick and kind of built that line. You built that
Speaker 1: fence before you had a house. And then guess what
Speaker 1: you found out, Well, I guess you technically had a house.
Speaker 1: You had Tony Romo. But you've figured it out along
Speaker 1: the way and you're gonna have to find that again.
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Speaker 1: and we're wrapping things up as the Cowboys. Of course,
Speaker 1: you've probably heard it by now if you're listening to
Speaker 1: this show they've lost to the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: What if you didn't, but if you just turn liked
Speaker 1: hope we beat the Bucks this week, Like I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go listen to this show, just completely blocked it
Speaker 1: completely out, Like, oh, they're probably previewing the Bucks by now,
Speaker 1: Miss Bully ball Man. They missed it. Yeah, it's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: and it does it's not fun for Cowboys Nation. Right now,
Speaker 1: and then we're frustrated along with you. I don't do
Speaker 1: shows with y'all on a regular basis. My point to
Speaker 1: it all was, and I said this because I picked
Speaker 1: him to win. I thought they'd win, and I wrote
Speaker 1: this that that I I didn't want to see it.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to see it. But but what
Speaker 1: they showed us in that game was what they showed
Speaker 1: us all year. They have slow starts, they don't run
Speaker 1: the ball, they have accuracy issues with their quarterback. The
Speaker 1: offensive line in the middles is not very good. They
Speaker 1: don't play well against the better teams, and discipline and
Speaker 1: penalties and ondisciplined at play, and we've seen it all year,
Speaker 1: and I just wouldn't allow myself to believe it because
Speaker 1: I wanted to see it so bad. And that is
Speaker 1: that's bad journalism right there. Honestly, I admit it. That's bad.
Speaker 1: I saw the warning signs. I didn't want to see them,
Speaker 1: and I kind of blocked him out, like they'll get better,
Speaker 1: it'll get better. This season seems different and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And I, you know, I apologize to our fans for
Speaker 1: that because I didn't really I wasn't as honest was
Speaker 1: I should have been because I just I wanted to
Speaker 1: see it so bad, and that Arizona game gave us
Speaker 1: a study gap, and it gave us a study gap
Speaker 1: for the test And basically that's the same game that
Speaker 1: happened that gets scared, not alone in that fact. I
Speaker 1: know you you apologize really really well written article, by
Speaker 1: the way, go check it out on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: But it was it was that way for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I was in that boat as well. It
Speaker 1: was my first playoff run. But I've been a Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan my entire life and I've wanted that as well.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, though, so I also kind of
Speaker 1: took that with himself. I wanted to see it happened.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get there, and you always, you always
Speaker 1: just kind of gave the benefit of the doubt, which
Speaker 1: is gone from this yarward just by the way. You
Speaker 1: always gave the benefit of the doubt because of the
Speaker 1: talent on this team, because you expected Ceedee Lamb to
Speaker 1: have that undercut, to have those slants and probably the
Speaker 1: best yack receiver in the history of the NFL in
Speaker 1: his first two seasons in the league, and then you
Speaker 1: turn around and he's got one catch for twenty one yards.
Speaker 1: And I said, the latter part of the game where
Speaker 1: they gave you the entire field, basically you got out
Speaker 1: targeted by your third fourth option. Yep, because you put
Speaker 1: in what coop lamb Shultz then maybe see then maybe said, well,
Speaker 1: it's not Tony Pollard coming back was going to play
Speaker 1: an impact four touches. Four touches. So there's frustration all
Speaker 1: the way around. And like Nick said, you saw the
Speaker 1: warning signs, but you still felt like you would it
Speaker 1: would click. You still felt like there was that inch
Speaker 1: of hope and it never really clicked. Name because you
Speaker 1: thought that the head coach, being a Super Bowl coach,
Speaker 1: would make that move. You thought he would make that
Speaker 1: call that would term in the game. You got the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators that super Bowl coach, you thought they would
Speaker 1: make that move. And I think he did it in
Speaker 1: the second half of his defense. But we never saw
Speaker 1: that move. We never saw that play that that would
Speaker 1: give you the chance to change the game. And when
Speaker 1: your coaches can't make that move, man, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: lot of talent. Maybe they didn't, maybe they don't have
Speaker 1: enough experience. Um that I'm not talking about the head coach.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the coordinator. Uh you as a player,
Speaker 1: he's an ex player, he played on the high level.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about coach Kelling. He should know better.
Speaker 1: He should know better as a coach. He should have
Speaker 1: that play or that move or that that you may
Speaker 1: can see or make him feel like, okay, he tried there.
Speaker 1: But as a playoff teams between you have been on
Speaker 1: you know that ring game is so big. You know,
Speaker 1: and and and my ring game is a little bit
Speaker 1: more than just handing the ball off. My ring game
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady did last year with the big back
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. Hey man, often throw this out here. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're they're outside linebackers can deal with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think a safety can deal with you. Here's
Speaker 1: my screen game. I don't think you can deal with that,
Speaker 1: not with Pollard. And so you never made those moves
Speaker 1: to give your offensive line a chance to readjest. You
Speaker 1: never made those moves to make the line. Your running
Speaker 1: backs are part of the game. And I don't care
Speaker 1: what nobody says. At the end of the year, when
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had Random Moss, who got the most passes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who got the most touchdowns? Aaron Rodgers been riding by himself,
Speaker 1: but the last two years and the guy's missed average
Speaker 1: two games a year. Who gets the most fastest gets?
Speaker 1: And so I tell people Michael Irvin, who got the most?
Speaker 1: We had Alvin Harpor, we had Kevin Martin, We had
Speaker 1: a host of guys. But when you have a stud
Speaker 1: receiver and a stud run in back, you take advantage.
Speaker 1: That's why it's more than one position. You have three
Speaker 1: different conventional wide receiver positions that Mari is smart enough
Speaker 1: to know, so you move him around. You have CD
Speaker 1: Lamb who was a big play ready to happen. You
Speaker 1: move him around, you force him to grow. See the
Speaker 1: reason I never went along with eighty eight the other
Speaker 1: eighty eight. The reason I never went along with him
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to grow up here. But when
Speaker 1: you got two guys that are willing to grow, but you,
Speaker 1: as a coordinator, don't give it all to him, that
Speaker 1: is your fault. You know. The second eighty eight did
Speaker 1: not want to grow. All he want to do is, hey, man,
Speaker 1: run down the field and I throw it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no room for that, brother. They worked
Speaker 1: for the first three or four years up to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then now you forced to get to the open guy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm with you man. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a big year for coach kell him. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I thought the dry at the end of the first
Speaker 1: half was the one that bothers me the most because
Speaker 1: there was a play in there on second and it
Speaker 1: was after the penalty on Lael and then Bosa gets
Speaker 1: hurts First and twenty, Dak rolls to the right. Cooper's
Speaker 1: right there, throw six seven yards. We'll see if he
Speaker 1: gets upfield and gets eight or nine because it's first
Speaker 1: and twenty. Yeah, he doesn't set his feet. He throws
Speaker 1: it to jar One, who's you know, still getting his
Speaker 1: feet wet again, bad throw incomplete. Jar One's not going
Speaker 1: to be adjusted on the fly and all that now
Speaker 1: second and twenty And I know he's not Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: but the reason why Tom Brady does what he does
Speaker 1: is because he's he's gonna not be greedy. He's gonna
Speaker 1: take that and knowing that I'm trying to get field goal.
Speaker 1: Ranch heared every into the half and then whether it
Speaker 1: be the coach or whatever, why are you throwing the
Speaker 1: ball into the sun. There's one little pet patch of sun,
Speaker 1: And why is your guy turn it around with no
Speaker 1: EyeBlack on and just trying to catch him. He doesn't
Speaker 1: even see it. And he even said afterwards, I asked him.
Speaker 1: He was like, Cedric was like, I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to do. And I was like, what about eye black?
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't put that on my face. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: But then don't run to the middle of the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stay away from that point of Blake Gridiron. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it. And I said that to the guy next
Speaker 1: to me. I was like, whatever you do, just don't
Speaker 1: throw it right there. You know, you gotta get your
Speaker 1: three points. Why isn't the coach not saying that? Why
Speaker 1: why aren't we saying well, you know, we're not we
Speaker 1: don't have curtains up here, we're not doing that. That's
Speaker 1: but the play was lost on first down when you
Speaker 1: could have gotten six and you could have been in
Speaker 1: second second and what thirteen second and fourteen? See that.
Speaker 1: This is what That's what bothers me is when you
Speaker 1: come to the sideline and he and he go kell
Speaker 1: him and and this guy our quarterback, and they're looking
Speaker 1: at the paper and and I hope Kelly and say,
Speaker 1: hey man, how did you miss this? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: how did you? Doug Nuts breathing up saying, hey, Dak,
Speaker 1: you had him are right there in front of you. Well,
Speaker 1: how did you miss that? I mean, look at what
Speaker 1: my homes how he went through that whole patch earlier
Speaker 1: this season where you know, earlier this season. All I
Speaker 1: want to do is chuck it deep. I want to
Speaker 1: chuck it deep. I gotta have these huge plays. And
Speaker 1: they were struggling as an offense. But then as they
Speaker 1: rained it in and you saw him home, started taking
Speaker 1: those checkdowns, letting his playmakers, you know, do what they
Speaker 1: do in space. And for some reason here with this offense,
Speaker 1: we don't do that. No, we don't give my guys
Speaker 1: a chance in space. We want to do the chunk players.
Speaker 1: We want to take the top before we leave. I
Speaker 1: want to ask one question give me and I asked
Speaker 1: for two. I just want one. Give me my my
Speaker 1: number one pass route that we can count on on
Speaker 1: our offense. Number two, give me my number one run
Speaker 1: play that we can count on offense. That's that's your problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have one because that and you're basically what
Speaker 1: you're asking is what's your identity? Because you know what
Speaker 1: you're what your bread and butter, and they don't have that.
Speaker 1: They do not have a running play like that. And
Speaker 1: it goes back to the early conversations with this offense
Speaker 1: and kind of what you were talking about at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this segment. If you have so many talented guys,
Speaker 1: You've got the Amari Coopers and the CD Lambs, and
Speaker 1: you heard this word all offseason long. You heard it
Speaker 1: through the first eight weeks of the season, versatility. You
Speaker 1: had versatility on offense, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that versatility did another vword advantage on the back half
Speaker 1: of the entire season. You didn't have that same kind
Speaker 1: of versatility, and you don't have an identity because of it,
Speaker 1: because that probably was your identity early on, was you
Speaker 1: could do so many things to keep a defense off balance,
Speaker 1: to challenge defensive coordinators and the best players on every
Speaker 1: other side of the football, and you didn't have that.
Speaker 1: You didn't have that identity. You just came in hoping
Speaker 1: it would be your identity, and hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 1: After the Bucks game. After the Bucks game, for five
Speaker 1: or six games. Watch the one thing that was costing,
Speaker 1: which you had some type of run game. Now you
Speaker 1: get the injury to that come back and let's watched
Speaker 1: the ring game diminish for no reason? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: a partially torn PCL on a knee. I mean is
Speaker 1: that not a reason? That's a reason, because that did
Speaker 1: That's what why did you get brain clemens? Every team
Speaker 1: go back and look at every team that lost their
Speaker 1: main bag. Did they stop running the ball because they
Speaker 1: lost Tennessee? Don't you don't do that? See that that
Speaker 1: that's the problem. The out is okay if I yeah,
Speaker 1: when when Zeke said I had this, I say I
Speaker 1: was over to say, don't do that. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care that. Don't that. Don't give you excuse
Speaker 1: if you had a torn whatever, get out of the
Speaker 1: game and let a better player get in there. And
Speaker 1: Coach Johnson, I'll give you example before I leave. My
Speaker 1: knee was messed up real bad and we was we
Speaker 1: was on I think I second Super Bowl. We was
Speaker 1: up in Denver to do Bull Rushman hurt my knee.
Speaker 1: Coach Coach Johnson looked at me said you all care?
Speaker 1: I see yes, sir, he let me finish the game.
Speaker 1: He came to me a couple of weeks, they said,
Speaker 1: they let me tell you something, man, He said, I
Speaker 1: can get a player prepared, and I can prepare this
Speaker 1: player for what he can do. He said, don't hurt
Speaker 1: this team because you think you're better when you cripple.
Speaker 1: He said, you're not gonna lose your job. Let me
Speaker 1: play this guy, and next week you can get your
Speaker 1: job back. And I never forgot that and I never will.
Speaker 1: Did you sit up? Do you think you sit up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you think the coaches would say that to Zick
Speaker 1: now who was the backgroup man? Who was the back nan? Okay,
Speaker 1: Kevin Gogan ended up going to a Pro Bowl after
Speaker 1: like like, Kevin, I mean, it don't matter. Well, but
Speaker 1: what you miss what I said, I will prepare this
Speaker 1: player for what he can do. You're saying the same
Speaker 1: thing for Clements in there. Ye put Polard in there,
Speaker 1: and don't tell me they can't block because every time
Speaker 1: we panic that on an answer to us panic, it's
Speaker 1: empty backfield. So we didn't worn about the blitz, no way.
Speaker 1: Every time we panic, it's an empty backfield. Fellas. So
Speaker 1: why okay, so why do you think that the running
Speaker 1: game was good and the first of the year, and
Speaker 1: then it wasn't at the end of Hellman helped me
Speaker 1: to this, and I looked at a little fam We
Speaker 1: had both tight ends, and people played us for that.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They played us for that. So that left
Speaker 1: our run game a little bit open. Guys blocked a
Speaker 1: little bit better, you know. But it isn't our job
Speaker 1: as officive line coaches and offensive cordage is to find
Speaker 1: that way where we was trapping. We was getting guys
Speaker 1: out on the edge. Not at first, but as the
Speaker 1: season went on. You don't get away from that. And
Speaker 1: I'll always say this right here. A part of my
Speaker 1: run game is the screen game, and a part of
Speaker 1: my ruing game is getting that ball to those to
Speaker 1: those running backs quick. That's the forty nine has won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, not once or twice with that. So
Speaker 1: now if you copy and plays and going out get played,
Speaker 1: look at those teams that win Super Bowls and how
Speaker 1: they did it with no run game. Telling you, man,
Speaker 1: it's two many answers, because we have too much. The
Speaker 1: window is the window is slamming shut on us, fellas
Speaker 1: it may have already slammed shut on us. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't know it yet, but it could have already slammed
Speaker 1: shut if you're being honest, and I think there's parts
Speaker 1: to it that I agree with you with. The other
Speaker 1: part is Zeke is getting paid sixty million dollars ninety
Speaker 1: million dollars to be a number one lead back. And
Speaker 1: even if even if a coach comes up to you
Speaker 1: and says, listen, Zeke, hey, I know you're hurting. Let's
Speaker 1: take a month, Let's take two months off, Let's get
Speaker 1: you ready for the playoffs. Let's get ready to roll
Speaker 1: right then, when you come around to this point and
Speaker 1: either you do make it to the mountaintop or you
Speaker 1: don't make it to the mountaintop, whatever the end result is,
Speaker 1: it's not the coach's decision to come to Zeke and say, listen,
Speaker 1: we might need a little bit more of that investment
Speaker 1: back because you missed six games. You missed seven games.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. NFL is a business, So
Speaker 1: maybe that went into the thought process from Zeke saying
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm out of the game unless my knee
Speaker 1: is detached from my body. That as a player, when
Speaker 1: you see your backup balling like that, that's another thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: month off. I'm gonna take you know who he is.
Speaker 1: If you okay, okay, okay, y'all got answer for that,
Speaker 1: But answer this. How do you give him all those
Speaker 1: carros against the second team Philadelphia when you can't give
Speaker 1: him all of those carriages in the playoff game? Answer
Speaker 1: that that was the problem. Yeah, that was the problem
Speaker 1: to begin that. We just said you can't have only twenty.
Speaker 1: We're not saying we're not doing sixteen attempts. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not saying that you can't give him. There's an answer,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna like it. The reason why they
Speaker 1: did it is obviously to give him a thousand yards.
Speaker 1: Okay I don't but but but if that's why they
Speaker 1: did it. But if you if you're gonna give him
Speaker 1: a thousand yards, which is more important that Philadelphia game
Speaker 1: or the playoff game? Definitely the player? And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. That's what I'm telling you. See that
Speaker 1: just shows that he's not a priority in this offense
Speaker 1: is ultimately what it is. Whether that's because of health,
Speaker 1: whether that's because of strategy. Even one he's not a pride.
Speaker 1: I don't think they thought they could run it. I
Speaker 1: mean he was a priority going into Week one against
Speaker 1: Tampa and that they didn't think they could run it.
Speaker 1: So they didn't. They didn't, but they didn't do the
Speaker 1: same game plan though. In that game. That's the thing
Speaker 1: they did. They got the others everything that what's you
Speaker 1: call it? Gave him? Oh we took we gave him. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: they gave you the same thing. Remember the third down
Speaker 1: and then and you and Isaiah went off. Man, they
Speaker 1: backed up eight yards and that should have told me
Speaker 1: right now if I'm dak now, I blame it on
Speaker 1: Day whoa man. They just gave us right here was
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, right there was the first down,
Speaker 1: and they backed up to the TV screens and gave
Speaker 1: you the first down, gave it to him. It was
Speaker 1: the play I don't remember, but what it was the result.
Speaker 1: It was the first down they got. They got the
Speaker 1: first down. But they was doing it. Isaiah was calling
Speaker 1: that the whole game. He was calling it though. Look
Speaker 1: they're giving it all y'all underneath stuff, So why not
Speaker 1: just cut them to a thousand times? Ye? So they
Speaker 1: change it you make an adjustment. I've heard yeah, and
Speaker 1: I heard the say greedy way too many times this year.
Speaker 1: He said, I've got too greedy. Stop being greedy. Like
Speaker 1: keep it simple, like keep it simple, you know, and
Speaker 1: live rookie rookie Dad kept it simple. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. And I mean, of course we've already talked
Speaker 1: about that where he had a different offensive way and
Speaker 1: had some different weapons. It was a certain situation. But
Speaker 1: maybe keeping it putting on my phone, I've been trying
Speaker 1: to my phone been rejecting me for the last three hours.
Speaker 1: I got up this morning and I got on my
Speaker 1: phone and said, hello, this is Nate Noon. At this time,
Speaker 1: I'm not in I'm scouring the country for a third, third,
Speaker 1: fourth round. Pick off this linement trying to I'm away,
Speaker 1: you're putting. You keep saying third round offensive lineman. Like
Speaker 1: if I if I'm picking a lineman in the third round,
Speaker 1: that means he's the second guy that I get. I'm
Speaker 1: getting that. Yeah, first round. You know, I've got two
Speaker 1: guys in the first round that I want already, or
Speaker 1: two guys in the first round, and then there's a
Speaker 1: guy in the second as there is any little little
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I'm talking about like little guys like slot
Speaker 1: guys could be easley take. I think this team needs
Speaker 1: some more quickness. I mean speed is one thing. I'm
Speaker 1: sure CD and mar they're getting buying people, but I
Speaker 1: mean little guys that that was one of the things
Speaker 1: last year. Do a couple of things. I feel like
Speaker 1: they that's something that's kind of needed for the more quickness,
Speaker 1: like you know, bubble screen to four yard first down,
Speaker 1: Amari CD maam number one, either number seventeen. The mean
Speaker 1: you guys they're quick enough in the middle, they as
Speaker 1: it don't enough if they understand it. Put them guys
Speaker 1: in the middle. Go out and find you a blocking
Speaker 1: tight end anywhere from the third to the seventh round.
Speaker 1: Go out and find you a greasy fact defensive player.
Speaker 1: And this team greasy. I've been Gallimore, Gallimore with Gallimore,
Speaker 1: with the other kids that we got. You know, we
Speaker 1: got guys that can rush the pastor we got we
Speaker 1: have to get somebody that's dedicated that when they live
Speaker 1: up their shirt, when they live up, they they second roll,
Speaker 1: not their first tell the role, but the second role.
Speaker 1: You'll find running backs deposited, all right, that's what you
Speaker 1: thought you had in Quentin Behead. He went on, they
Speaker 1: could yeah, they couldn't, but they didn't mature. He was
Speaker 1: three eighty. What the That's what I wanted? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wanted the three eighty Why when they went to felt
Speaker 1: like he's now we want I don't know about greasy sloppy. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where you stink a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I had to watch your extra when I played that,
Speaker 1: and watch your extra roll I just tell cold man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up this role right here. One you
Speaker 1: know extra rolls over my wife images that I one
Speaker 1: my wife pulling over and he loved that. He was like,
Speaker 1: that's why you got on the All Man Forever, that
Speaker 1: guy man John Madden like love Nate. Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: some of these old games. I mean like anytime, any
Speaker 1: example he's got his go to was like I was
Speaker 1: big enough to be a drawing board. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: circle anything. Loved And I love him man, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to go see his wife when all of
Speaker 1: this kind of chill down. I told Rich you know
Speaker 1: a couple of months and lady chill down him just
Speaker 1: gonna say drive and just hug a man, allow me
Speaker 1: what how much of an honor was that that they
Speaker 1: they did that documentary and I mean they got ten
Speaker 1: to twelve people that they had to talk to that
Speaker 1: that you were one of them when they came to
Speaker 1: my house and I said, where do I fit? You know, like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? In the sense it was like
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I'm like, man, John Hall of
Speaker 1: Famous love John. I'm just nate. Where do I fit?
Speaker 1: He said, we'll see out the interview. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I said, but then John tell you to come him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and interview with me. He said, Yeah, tell John I
Speaker 1: love him. That's what I'm laughing. Tell John I love him.
Speaker 1: You know, have y'all seen that doctor? I haven't got
Speaker 1: to watch them watch it this week though. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been grinding away, but I haven't seen it. Three I
Speaker 1: couldn't even do the boom. And they say, but the
Speaker 1: boom is part of man. I was so called to
Speaker 1: be motion that at the time because I've just finished
Speaker 1: talking about him and saying some things that he told me,
Speaker 1: and like when we want you to say the boom,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't say the boom right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said. He looked at m like, I hope that
Speaker 1: don't get me. Yeah right, rest in peace, John Madden
Speaker 1: legend and so many rites, and can't wait to hear
Speaker 1: some more about him throughout the next coming off. I
Speaker 1: bet you they do a yeah, I bet you they
Speaker 1: do a big Super Bowl thing around him. They would
Speaker 1: have to write they got the whole presentation around it.
Speaker 1: So hopefully that will come. But by the way, you
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