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The podcast and YouTube show our 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: countdown of the fifty greatest players of the last fifty years. 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Now players fifteen through ten, where we're really tall talking 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: about the true top tier Pantheon greats, where we talk 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas, Kevin Durant Yannis, the two best guys on 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: arguably the greatest team ever, Moses and Doctor j who 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: teamed up in the eighty three six ers, and of 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: course Steph Curry. Those rankings were a little difficult because 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: three of those six guys still active players. Hell, when 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: we recorded the Steph Curry segment his season was still 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: going on. Yannis, could he what would have happened had 23 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: he won the title this year? Durant? How much was 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: his ranking affected by them losing in round one this year? 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert? His ranking wasn't actually negatively affected, but it 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: could have obviously been positively affected had they gone on 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: to make the finals or win the title. These two 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: guys we get to today as we are now into 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the top nine, have been long retired. However, one of them, 30 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure all of you have a litany of fire 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: memories of and the other I think you're going to 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: hear his name, be like I always hear about what 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: a great player he is, and I'm sure you watched 34 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: him win his titles. But I don't think anybody. I 35 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: shouldn't say anybody. I think most of you will be 36 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: shocked by the jaw dropping numbers these two guys nine 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: to eight. Spoiler alert. They're both sinners. And if you 38 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: know it's the fifty Grays players the last fifty years, 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: you probably know who they are. Now their playoff dominance 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: has almost been undersold, even if you know they were dominant. 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: So let's get right into the list. We are down 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: to only two people per episode. Eventually we'll get to 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: one person per episode. But number nine on the list 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: is Shaquille O'Neill. Number nine, Shaquille O'Neill. Shaquille O'Neill will 45 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: go over the resume quickly and then we'll get to 46 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: the playoff stuff and then we'll have a long discussion. 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: Eight time first Team All NBA, two time second Team 48 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: All NBA, four time Third Team All NBA. That is 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: fourteen all NBA teams, tied for the fifth most ever. 50 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: He only won one MVP, which is insanity, but eight 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: times he finished in the top five. He's a two 52 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: time scoring champion. He's three time All Defense. He is 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: eighth all time in blocks. He has eighth all time 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: in points. Over his ten year prime, he averaged twenty 55 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: eight points, twelve rebounds, three assists, three blocks in year 56 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: two at age twenty one years old, fresh out LSU. 57 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: He was twenty nine and thirteen that good in year two. 58 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: He also was the guy who allowed me kind of 59 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: set the precedent for me including Luca in my fifty 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: of the last fifty because he was included on the 61 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: NBA's fifty year anniversary team, even though he'd only been 62 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: in the league five years. Before I get into the 63 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: playoffs stuff. I want to say something about shaq I 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: think you could argue, In fact, I would argue under 65 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: these parameters, he would be considered the greatest player ever. 66 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: If the question is you can have any player in 67 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: NBA history for one game at his apex peak of 68 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: his powers, who are you choosing? My answer is Shaquille O'Neal, 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: Because as great as Jordan was, as great as Kareem was, 70 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: as great as Lebron was, even at their apex peak, 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: they might have an off night. It's unlikely, but they 72 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: might have an off night. As I will prove to 73 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: you during Shaquille O'Neill's true apex peak, he never had 74 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: an off night when he cared. Ever, he had a 75 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: three year run of not only zero bad finals games, 76 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: but fifteen for fifteen on outstanding kick your teeth in 77 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: finals games. But that's not that's not the only reason 78 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: he's ninth on the list. But it's one hell of 79 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: a start, okay. So let's get to the playoffs. He's 80 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: a four time champion. He has three finals MVPs. He 81 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: has six finals appearances, and he was the unquestioned best 82 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: player on five of those six finalists. I would argue 83 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: he was the best player on the sixth finalist, the 84 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: six Heat during the regular season, but in the playoff run, 85 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: obviously d Wade was the best player. And in fact, 86 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 2: here's a shocking stat antwin Walker was the second leading 87 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: scorer during the finals on those Miami Heat teams. Shaq 88 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: was third leading scorer. But we'll get We'll spend more 89 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: time on that once we get to that year of 90 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: his career. So let's just go and this is gonna 91 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: be how we do it. I need to take a 92 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: sip of this coffee because there are going to be 93 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: a lot of numbers here. I understand for podcast listeners, 94 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: even for the YouTube viewers, it can be a lot 95 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: to process. But I know sometimes you listen to podcasts 96 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: on one and a half speed. You might want to 97 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: even slow this down because we're giving you a lot 98 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: of numbers, but they are all jaw dropping. Nineteen ninety four, 99 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: his first playoff game ever, twenty four points, nineteen rebounds, 100 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: three assists, two steals, five blocks. That is his first 101 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: playoff game of his career. The very next year, the series, 102 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: we pretend didn't happen. Hey, raise your hand if you 103 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: were the best player on a team that beat Michael 104 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: Jordan in a playoff series during Jordan's prime. You know 105 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: who gets to raise his hand, Shaquille O'Neill. And that's it. 106 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety five against the Bulls averages twenty four points, 107 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds, four assists, two blocks. Us to get to 108 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: the finals. In the next round, in the conference finals, 109 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: averages twenty seven to ten, including two different games with 110 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: at least thirty five points and ten rebounds. In the 111 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: finals against the greatest defensive player of the last fifty years, 112 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: a Kim Olajuan. He's in his third year. He's in 113 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: the finals against a keeam. Twenty eight points per game, 114 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds per game, six assists per game on sixty 115 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: percent shooting. But they got swept. Nick Anderson misses the 116 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: four free throws and the shock getting swept was going 117 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: to be a theme. But when I tell you twenty eight, 118 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: thirteen and six on sixty percent shooting in the finals, 119 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: now keep this in mind. That will be the worst 120 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: finals performance we see from Shack over the next decade. 121 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety six, the very next year, starts the playoffs, 122 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: or starts round two off with a forty one, thirteen 123 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: and six to the Eastern Conference Finals against those seventy 124 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: two win balls, but the Bulls then sweeping. So now 125 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: he got swept by a team and got swept by Michael. 126 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: How did Shack do when he got swept? Just a 127 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: humble twenty seven points, eleven rebounds, four assists, two steals, 128 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: two blocks. That was his average while getting swept. One 129 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: of the reasons he left, like, Okay, I give you 130 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: twenty seven eleven, four to two and two. When I 131 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: get my ass swept out of the playoffs, may I 132 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: need to leave? Goes to LA first playoff game with 133 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: the Lakers forty six and eleven, and then they play 134 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: Utah in round two, loses to Utah. Averages for the 135 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: playoffs twenty seven, eleven and three nineteen ninety eight. In 136 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: his first Western Conference Finals averages for the playoff run 137 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, not for his series, not for 138 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: the entire playoff run. In nineteen ninety eight, Shaquille O'Neal 139 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: averages thirty one points, eleven rebounds, three assists, three blocks 140 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: on sixty one percent shooting In his first Western Conference Finals, 141 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: he has a thirty nine and fifteen followed by a 142 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: thirty eight and seven. Lost both those games because he 143 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: got swept again. So this is young Kobe. Kobe as 144 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: the airballs. He's not ready shack again on Carl Malone 145 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: and the defending Western Conference champion Jazz hangs a thirty 146 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: nine and fifteen, fall by thirty eight and seven, loses 147 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: them both, and now it's like, oh boy, like shack 148 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: Sher gets swept a lot the next year, nineteen ninety 149 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: nine for the playoffs, averages twenty seven and twelve. But 150 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: guess what happens to him in round two? Guy named 151 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: Tim Duncan is in the league. Now he sweeps him. 152 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: So now Shaq's swept again, and people are like, oh boy, 153 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: as great as Shaq is and as great as the 154 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: numbers are, isn't it weird? He keeps getting swept? So 155 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: how does Shaquille O'Neal respond? He responds with what I 156 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: believe to be the most dominant three year stretch of 157 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: any player in league hist more dominant than anything Kareem, 158 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: Michael Lebron, Magic, anyone ever did. So this is this 159 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: go where you know pull up a chair, boys and girls, 160 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna need a minute talk about these three years 161 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: because these are the again. This is well, I'll just 162 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: the numbers will prove it to you. Two thousand for 163 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: the playoffs averages thirty one points, fifteen rebounds, three assists, 164 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: two blocks, one of the most dominant start to finish 165 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: playoff runs ever. But it's not even his best. His 166 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: best will come next year. He started the playoffs off 167 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: with a forty six points, seventeen rebound, five block game 168 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: the first three games of round two thirty seven and 169 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: fourteen thirty eight and twenty thirty seven and seventeen. He 170 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: starts off round three with forty one points, eleven rebounds, 171 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: seven assists, five blocks. And then that's that was the 172 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: series against Portland. They're up three to one was game five, 173 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: those Game six, they're down fifteen, and the fourth in 174 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: game seven, and then the iconic Kobe to shaq dunk 175 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: to get them in the finals. And then in the finals, 176 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: and each game of these finals deserves massive recognition. Okay, 177 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: in the finals, Game one, forty three points, nineteen rebounds, 178 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: Game two forty points, twenty four rebounds. That was the 179 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: game hack of Shack was kind of invented. He shot 180 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: thirty nine free throws that game. He missed twenty one 181 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: of them, so he missed twenty one three throws still 182 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: out of forty and twenty four. Game three, excuse me, 183 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: thirty three and thirteen, Game four, thirty six and twenty one, 184 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: Game five, thirty five and eleven, Game six, forty one 185 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: and twelve. That's six games to win his first ring. 186 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: His worst game was thirty three and thirteen, Like I said, 187 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 2: not his best playoff run, not his best finals. Then 188 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: next year you could argue, there's the greatest team of 189 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: all time, the O one Lakers. They lost one playoff 190 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: game the entire time. Kobe was ascending and Shack was 191 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: well unstoppable for the playoff run thirty points, fifteen rebounds, 192 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: fifty five percent shooting. Sweeps Portland in round one, starts 193 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: off a sweep of Sacramento with forty four and twenty one, 194 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: followed by forty three to twenty, back to back forty 195 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: and twenties to say, Sacramento, nice, try next year you'll 196 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: have a real chance. Not this year, they sweet. Now 197 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: he gets revenge. He sweeps the Spurs in round three, 198 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: and then their one loss of the finals, the one 199 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: loss of the playoffs, Game one, the famous Allen Iverson 200 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: stepover game. Shaquille O'Neal in that game forty four points, 201 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty rebounds, five assists, forty four to twenty and five. 202 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: Game two, this is the forgotten near quadruple double. We 203 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: talk about Tim Duncan almost having a quadruple double quite 204 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: a bit. Game two he has twenty eight points, twenty rebounds, 205 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: nine assists, eight blocks, twenty eight to twenty nine and 206 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: eight to even up the series. Averaged for the series 207 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: thirty three, sixteen and five on fifty seven percent forty 208 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: five minutes per game. And here's the other thing. Everyone says, oh, well, 209 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: that Sixers team didn't have enough talent, that Sixers team 210 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: didn't have offensive talent. But you know who they did 211 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 2: have playing center, the defensive player of the year to 212 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: Kembe Matambo. So Shaquille O'Neal in the finals to win 213 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: his second ring against the defensive player of the year 214 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: averages thirty three to sixteen and five on forty on 215 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: fifty seven percent. The next year. Okay, now they're facing 216 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: real adversity, Kobe and Check starting to fray. They've won 217 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: back to back titles. You know, the only three peat 218 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: is Jordan. He's the only guy to do it, did 219 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: it twice with the only three peat posts you know 220 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: in the modern era. Down three to two to Sacramento. 221 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: In the historic and questionably a fifitiated Game six, he 222 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: hung a forty one and seventeen on them, including thirteen 223 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: of seventeen at the free throw line. Game seven he 224 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: hangs a thirty five and thirteen on them in a 225 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: win in overtime, including eleven of fifteen from the free 226 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: throw line. So when Shack says, I made him, when 227 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: I counted. During their three championship years with the Lakers, 228 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: they faced they only truly faced adversity in one series, well, 229 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: two series, the Portland Series the first year and then 230 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: this series. But facing elimination game six and seven, he 231 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: is a combined from the free throw line twenty four 232 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: of thirty two that's seventy five percent okay in the finals, 233 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: averages thirty six points, thirteen rebounds, four assists, three blocks. 234 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: The games were as follows, thirty six and sixteen, forty 235 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: twelve and eight, thirty five and eleven, thirty four and ten. 236 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: So those three years from two thousand to two thousand 237 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: and two, Shaquille O'Neal in the finals fifteen Finals games 238 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: twelve and three, overall record, averaging thirty six points, fifteen rebounds, 239 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: four assists, three blocks on sixty percent shooting. Nobody can 240 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: argue anyone's ever been more dominant in the biggest moment 241 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: than Shock during those three years, and then we can 242 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: be quick the rest of the way. In two thousand 243 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: and three, as the three time defending champ, throws up 244 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: a twenty nine to fifteen to four and three against 245 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett in round one or no averages pardon me 246 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: averages twenty nine to fifteen to four and three against 247 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett in round one, including when they were down 248 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: two to one in that series, throws up a thirty 249 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: four point, twenty three rebound, six assist game in the 250 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: they end up lose, using to the Spurs are going 251 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: to win the title. He averages twenty five to fourteen 252 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: and four. The next year, they're back in the finals. 253 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: Everyone on that team struggled except for Shaq, who once 254 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: again had to deal with the defensive player of the 255 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: year this one and Ben Wallace. Howd he do twenty 256 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: seven points, eleven rebounds per game on sixty three percent shooting. 257 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: He had a thirty four and eleven and a thirty 258 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: six and twenty. They lost both of those. Two thousand 259 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: and five, he goes to Miami. They instantly get to 260 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: the conference finals, but they lose to Detroit in seven. 261 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: And in two thousand and six, he really he had 262 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: a couple great playoff moments with the Heat. That year, 263 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: he had a thirty point, twenty rebound, five assist game 264 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: to beat Chicago in round one and to get to 265 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: the finals. To get that Heat team to the finals, 266 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: this was his last really great playoff game, twenty eight points, 267 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: sixteen rebounds, five blocks on twelve to fourteen shooting to 268 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: clinch a finals appearance. And then in the finals, he 269 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: wasn't great. D Wade was And that's kind of the 270 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: end of it. So how does the all time playoff 271 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: resume look? Twelve career forty point playoff games that's eighth 272 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: all time, fifty five career thirty point playoff games, that's 273 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: eighth all time. Forty nine career thirty and ten playoff 274 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: games that's fourth all time. Twelve career forty and ten 275 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: playoff games that's third all time twenty five career playoff 276 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: games with a game score that's Basketball Reference is catch 277 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: all metric of at least thirty the only people with 278 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: more Lebron and Mike Lebron and Michael. He's fifth all 279 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: time in playoff points. He's fourth all time in playoff rebounds. 280 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: He's fourth all time in playoff box. He's fifth all 281 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: time in finals points per game at twenty eight point three. 282 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: His career playoff average over two hundred and sixteen games, 283 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: which is two and a half full seasons of playoff basketball, 284 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: is twenty four points, twelve rebounds, three assists, two blocks. 285 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: That's Shaquille O'Neil. That's how you become one of the 286 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 2: nine greatest players ever. We have a Shaquille O'Neal caller. 287 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Let's get to him. Question about Shack one for twenty 288 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: two in his career from behind the arc. If Shaq 289 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: played now, do you think he would bomb threes? He 290 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: would not bomb threes. And Wilds, who is my beloved 291 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: colleague and coworker, found a way to almost put a 292 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: damper on what was just a brilliant fifteen minutes of 293 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal love with us. He would need to bomb threes, 294 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: just like Kevin Durantz asking him how he would guard 295 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: the pick and roll, and Shaq correctly said, here's the thing, 296 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: you would not be able to guard me. There is 297 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: no era in which Shaq would not be utterly dominant. 298 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: He did it against anyone and everyone. The defensive player 299 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: of the year doesn't matter. At his peak. No one 300 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: could hold him under thirty five and fifteen a game 301 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: ninth best player last fifty years. Shaquille O'Neill, the eighth 302 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: best player of the last fifty years is a guy 303 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: who beat Shaquille O'Neil in one of those finals. You 304 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: know who he is. We discussed him next. 305 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by Unstoppable. 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Watch Unstoppable now exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. 313 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in What's Right with Nick Right. 314 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: Fifty Grands Players of the Last fifty years. Very fun, little 315 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: surprise for you after we do player number eight at 316 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: the end of this episode, which is, well, I don't 317 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: want to spoil it. You'll be able. It's worth. It's 318 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: worth even if you're not interested in player number eight, 319 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: which you should be, it's almost worth skipping ahead to 320 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: hear that. But don't do that. Listen to player number eight, 321 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: which is we just did Shack at number nine, And 322 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: while you're going through Shack at nine, your tendency is Jesus, 323 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: should he be higher? Like I gave all those argument 324 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: should he be higher? And a lot of people have 325 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: him ahead of the person I have at number eight. 326 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: I do not, and I will explain why. Number eight 327 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: on the fifty Grays Players the Last fifty years, Number 328 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: eight a Keem Elijah On. So let's go through the 329 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: resume here quickly. Six time first team All NBA, three 330 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: times second Team All NBA, three time third Team All NBA. 331 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: At a time when All NBA first Team center was 332 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: a hell of a hard thing to get. You had 333 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: David Robinson, you had Patrick Ewing, you had at the 334 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: beginning of his career, you had late stage Kareem at 335 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: the end of his career, you had early stage Shack. 336 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: So those first team All NBA center spots were almost impossible. 337 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: He won the MVP once. He was Top five in 338 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: the MVP six times. He was Top seven ten times. 339 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: He's a two time Defensive Player of the Year. More 340 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: on that, he's nine time All defense. He has he is, 341 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I think it's inarguable the best 342 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: defensive player on this list. The only person who you 343 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: could argue is a better defender all time is Bill Russell. 344 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: And that's it's so different of a game back then. 345 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: But in the last fifty years he's the greatest defensive player, 346 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: and I think because of that he's become an underrated 347 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: offensive player. We'll explain why. But he's twelfth all time 348 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: in points. He's ninth all time in steals. No other 349 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: center is in the top sixty. So all time steals, 350 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: he's ninth. No other center is in the top sixty. 351 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: That is an interesting stat. 352 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. He has the most blocks. Ever, by six hundred, 353 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: he has I think thirty eight hundred blocks. Second most 354 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: is thirty two hundred. So think about that. The guy 355 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: who's in second place on the all time blocks list 356 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: would need to have four more seasons of two blocks 357 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: a game to catch a Kam impossible. So he's the 358 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: greatest defensive player second on the all time blocks list. 359 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I should know that off the top of 360 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: my head, but I don't. So let's find out together. 361 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: We will find out together in real time. I did 362 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: Kim Bagmtumbo. Yeah to Kim bag Mtumbo, who, by the way, 363 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: defensive player of the year who Shack annihilated in the 364 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: one finals. We're talking about M Tumble's at thirty two hundred. 365 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 2: A team's at thirty eight hundred. So now let's get 366 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: into a team's playoff resume. Because everyone remembers the two rings. 367 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't think they quite remember who he went through 368 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: for those two rings, but they certainly don't remember the 369 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: fact that I think most people don't know a Keem 370 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: went to the finals before nineteen ninety four. So we'll 371 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: get into it. Nineteen eighty five. He is a rookie. 372 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: They are in game five of round one against Utah. 373 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: Keep in minds when round one's best of five, so 374 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: it's you know, do or die game as a rookie. 375 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: In his first elimination game, thirty two points, fourteen rebounds, 376 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: six blocks, but they lose. He's a rookie. At that 377 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: point in time, nobody was questioning the team over Michael 378 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: Jordan drafting nobody. Keeame was the no doubt guy. Nineteen 379 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: eighty six year two, second year. Obviously in the second 380 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: year he's in the finals. He started the playoffs off 381 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: with twenty nine points, fifteen rebounds, four blocks. He started 382 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: round two off with thirty eight points, sixteen rebounds, four assists, 383 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: six steals, five blocks. Almost had a five by five 384 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: game in the playoff in his second year to go 385 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: along with thirty eight points one assist, shy of one 386 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: of the only five by five games. That's where that's 387 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: so much more important than a triple double. That's where 388 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: you have at least five of every category, and he 389 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: would have done it with thirty eight points averaged for 390 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: that round two series averaged twenty nine points, thirteen rebounds, 391 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: three assists, two steals, four blocks. Can you imagine a 392 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: dude averaging four blocks for a series today, okay, to 393 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: go up two to one on the defending champion Lakers, 394 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: who had Kareem and Magic and worthy to go up 395 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: two to one on them. He put up forty to 396 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: twelve averaged for the series thirty one eleven with four blocks, 397 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: and outplayed Kareem Abdul Jabbar. He's in his second year. 398 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: In his first finals game ever against the eighty six Celtics, 399 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: the team that I don't argue, but some people argue 400 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: is the single greatest team ever. He had thirty three points, 401 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: twelve rebound facing elimination down three to one. In Game 402 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: five against what somebody would argue is the greatest team 403 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: ever thirty two points, fourteen rebounds and eight blocks to 404 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: keep his season alive average twenty four to twelve and 405 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: with three blocks for the series again against So he 406 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: beats the defending champion Lakers in Kareem and Magic and 407 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: then loses in six to the eighty six Celtics nineteen 408 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: eighty seven in round one almost well, I'll just tell 409 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: you what he averages for round one. This is and 410 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: some of this acheme stuff. It's just so consistently just 411 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: outstanding across the board that I just have to give 412 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: you series averages instead of individual games because he didn't 413 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: have a ton of the shack explosion forty five point games. 414 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: It was just for a series. Like in round one, 415 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: he averages twenty nine twenty seven points, nine rebounds, four assists, 416 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: three steals, five blocks. Dude average three steals and five 417 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: blocks eight stocks per game. In a playoff series Round 418 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: two against Seattle, in a game they lose in double overtime, 419 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: he had forty nine points, twenty five rebounds, and six 420 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: blocks and they lost. Nineteen eighty eight. Round one lost it. 421 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: This is this is one of the most impossible. This 422 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: is you could win some money in a bar if 423 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: you found the right way to phrase this is a 424 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: trivia question. In round one in nineteen eighty eight, the 425 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: Rockets lost to the Mavericks three games to one. Despite 426 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: the fact that A kim olajuwon for the series in 427 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: the four games and they only won one averaged thirty 428 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: eight points and seventeen rebounds. He had a forty to 429 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: fifteen and a loss with the in game four to 430 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: get eliminated. The only game they won, he had forty 431 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: one points twenty five rebounds. So nineteen eighty eight to 432 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. He never got out of round one. 433 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: In those playoff years, he averaged twenty six points, fourteen 434 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: rebounds to assist, two steels, four blocks, never got out 435 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: of round one. We talk about a guy that this 436 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: was a team once Sampson was done, essentially a Keem 437 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: Rockets was Lebron Cavs the first time around, got to 438 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: the finals super early, was unbelievable, always produced, and the 439 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: team stunk. They couldn't put the right pieces around it. 440 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: And now Lebron wasn't losing in round one, which is 441 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: why Lebron's higher on this list, But twenty six, fourteen, two, 442 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: two and four over a four year average in the 443 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: playoffs without ever winning a series. So now we get 444 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: to the meat of a team, which is these next 445 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: three years. Nineteen ninety three finally gets out of the 446 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: first round. How does he get out of the first round. 447 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: He has a thirty one point, twenty one rebounds, seven 448 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: block game for that series. To finally win his first 449 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: series in five years, he averages twenty nine points, fifteen rebounds, 450 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: five assists, two steals, and six blocks per game. They 451 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: lose to Seattle in overtime, in game seven by three points. 452 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: When a Keeam puts up in that game seven twenty 453 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: three points, seventeen rebounds, nine assists, So if he was 454 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: not out of this world, they couldn't win. Luckily for them. 455 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: Over the next two years, he is in fact out 456 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: of this world. And listen to the numbers, and then 457 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: at the end listen to who he beats as he 458 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: goes on to win his two rings and two finals 459 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: MVPs nineteen ninety four, he wins the league MVP. He 460 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: wins Defensive Player of the Year. Michael Jordan has retired, 461 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: so the whole league knows. So for Berkley, for Youing, 462 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: for David Robinson, who hadn't won it that point, for Stockton, 463 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: for Malone, for Kemp, for Peyton, for a team, for 464 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: all these guys, Hey, this should be our chance. So 465 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: what does it team do? Round one against Portland. I 466 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: can't even give you the individual games. I'll give you 467 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: one of them, but averages for round one thirty four points, 468 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: eleven rebounds, five assists, two steals, four blocks. He had 469 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: a game in that series, another this close to five 470 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: by five game, this one with forty six points. He 471 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: had a forty six eight, four, four, and six against 472 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: the defending Western Conference champions Phoenix Suns and Charles Barkley. 473 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: He averages for the series twenty nine points, fourteen rebounds, 474 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: five assists, four blocks, including in Game seven against Charles 475 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: Barkley and the defending Western Conference champion Sons, Game seven 476 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: thirty seven points, seventeen rebounds, five assists. Utah just knew 477 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: they were drawing dead. Utah. He throws up a forty 478 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: one thirteen and six in Game two and demoralizes them, 479 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: and then in the finals he holds Patrick Ewing, an 480 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: all time great center, to nineteen points per game. His 481 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: team is up to with two seconds left in Game six, 482 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: John Starks, who is the nick's second best player and 483 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: great three point shooter for the ERA, has seemingly an 484 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: open three to win the title, and a team Go 485 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: Go gadgets it and blocks it and they end up 486 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: winning the title in Game seven. He averages for the 487 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: finals twenty seven points, nine rebounds, four assists, four blocks, 488 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: First Ring, First Finals MVP. Then next year this team 489 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: is the sixth seed. They are not that good of 490 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: a team. They trade for Clyde Drexler midway through the year. 491 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: They're kind of scuttling next year to start his Finals defense, 492 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: puts up forty five points, eight rebounds, six assists, two steals, 493 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: three blocks, but they're down two to one again. This 494 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: is a best of five, so their face elimination. In 495 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: game four, he puts up forty. Game five Dewardi game 496 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: puts up a thirty three and ten to advance. He's 497 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: now two, so he's won two Doward die games in 498 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: that in his Finals. Defense then averages in that series 499 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: against Utah against stocktona alone thirty five, nine and four. 500 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: The next round, they're down three one to Berkley and Phoenix. 501 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: They're down three to one, despite the fact that in 502 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: games three and four the team scored thirty six and 503 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: thirty eight. They win three straight games, three more elimination games, 504 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: win game five, six and seven. The team averages thirty, 505 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: twelve and six in those three games. They're now five 506 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: to zero elimination games. Then, and this is unbelievable. This 507 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: you got to look up on YouTube. That year David 508 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: Robinson won MVP, and they gave David Robinson the MVP 509 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: and on the court like they used to do before 510 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: the series against a King before one of the games 511 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: and a keem who's an all time nice guy, just 512 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: tortured him. Tortured him for the entire series, scored forty 513 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: three times, averages thirty five, thirteen rebounds, five assists, four 514 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: blocks against the MVP of the league, David Robinson. Go ahead, 515 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: how many times you how many times you say you 516 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: won Defensive Player of the year A team twice? He 517 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: won two Defensive Players of the Year, could have won more, 518 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: could have won a hell of a lot, No, but 519 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: they spread it around a bit. In the finals, playing 520 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: a young guy you may have heard of him, Shaquille 521 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: O'Neal and the Orlando Magic. He scores at least thirty 522 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: one points in every single game. Averages for the finals 523 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: thirty three points, twelve rebounds, six assists, two steals, two 524 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: blocks to sweep out Shack and win finals MVP. Okay, 525 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: So here is the totality of it again? Remember what 526 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: I said about how you Wing and Shack and David 527 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: Robinson and Patrick Ewing and John Stockton and Carl Malone 528 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: and Charles Barkley, all these guys. When Jordan's gone, They're like, 529 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: here's our chance. Akim Olajuan beat every single one of 530 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: those guys. To win those two rings. In those two 531 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: championship runs, he averaged thirty four points, eleven rebounds, four assists, 532 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: two steals, three blocks on fifty three percent shooting and 533 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: beat oh Clyde Drexler two, beat Clyde Drexler and then 534 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: Drexler joined him, beat Barkley twice, beat Stockton malone twice, 535 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: beat Patrick Ewing, beat David Robinson, beat Shaquille O'Neal, King 536 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: of the Mountain, Beat them all, no easy routes, no 537 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: easy paths, beat everybody who is Most of those guys 538 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: except for Drexler who joined him and Robinson who got 539 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: one later with Tim Duncan and obviously Shaq. Most of 540 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: those guys finished their career is ringless because a team 541 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: won both of those in ninety six. The keep in 542 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: mind a team. We started this story in nineteen eighty five, 543 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: so now it's been a decade. And over that decade, 544 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: from year two to his second ring, he was twenty nine, twelve, three, 545 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 2: two and four on fifty three percent. A ten year 546 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: run in the playoffs, winning finals MVP twice, winning two championships, 547 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: getting the three finals from year two to his second title, 548 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: averages in the playoffs. Twenty nine points, twelve rebounds, three assists, 549 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: two steals, four blocks, And that's the story of a 550 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: Keeam Elajauan. He's the greatest defensive player I've ever seen, 551 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 2: and one could argue the greatest defensive player anyone's ever seen. 552 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 2: He's the eighth greatest player of the last fifty years. 553 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: Let's get to a quick a team. 554 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: Caller, Nick, clearly, my time on first things first with 555 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: you is beginning to have a positive effect because you're 556 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 4: putting Akeem Olajuan ahead or higher than Shaquille O'Neill. Is 557 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: an inspired decision and one that I wholly agree with. 558 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: But please tell us why did you do it? 559 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: Here's why I did it. Shaq's apex obviously was higher. However, 560 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: a Keeme sustained excellence to go along with the fact 561 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: that Shaq was a good and for a brief period 562 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: of time great defender, Akeem was the greatest defender, and 563 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: the fact that they played each other in the finals 564 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: and Akeem swept them. For all those reasons, it is 565 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: very close. It is one of the most hotly contested arguments. 566 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: If you really care about this stuff, Shaq versus Achem, 567 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: I lean Akeeme and I think I think the overwhelming 568 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: defensive monstrous performances. Plus, like I said, the guy is 569 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: considered the greatest defender ever yet over a decade of 570 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: his prime in the playoffs averaged a touch under thirty 571 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: points per game. What is he twelfth all time in 572 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: points in the regular season. So it's not the guy 573 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: couldn't score. He's the Aphiaers player for the last fifty years. 574 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with a very special end of 575 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 2: the show. And by the way, I'm going to complain 576 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: for a moment on some of the response to this 577 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: before we get to number eight, because so much of 578 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: the because we put out the a graphic of the list, 579 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: and I've got folks who otherwise should know better saying, 580 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: you know, when there's a list like this and they 581 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: include guys that you know, guys like Tiny Archibald or 582 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: Elvin Hayes or Bernard King when they didn't see him, 583 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: they're doing it based purely on the numbers. Okay, So 584 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: think here, first of all, if you could see the 585 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: exhaustive research that has gone into this, and if you 586 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: watch the videos, I think you get a little taste 587 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: of it, you would know it's not purely by the numbers. Obviously, 588 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: it's very numerically centric. That's first of all. Second of all, 589 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: there's a thing YouTube exists, and the NBA archive exists, 590 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: and the ability to watch and the almost any major 591 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: playoff moment of the last fifty years is at our fingertips. 592 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: One of the reasons I cut it off of the 593 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 2: last fifty years is because you don't really have access 594 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 2: to watch the Celtics of the sixties, much less Bob 595 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: Pettett and George Mikeen in the fifties. There is no 596 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 2: way to watch that. But lastly, and I've never cursed 597 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: in one of these fifty Greatest Player videos, but I 598 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 2: think I'm gonna do it right here. By that logic, 599 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: how the does anyone write about the Civil War or 600 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: about Napoleon, or about anything that you are alive for? 601 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: How can anyone learn about anything they didn't see? Like, well, 602 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: what was the Civil War about? 603 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: Uh? 604 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: What do you I mean? You're gonna you're gonna teach 605 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: me a class on it? Were you there to just 606 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: watch Sherman? What about to come get the out of here? Guys, 607 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: If you dedicate yourself to something and you want to 608 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: do the research, and you want to become learned, and 609 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: you want to read the first hand accounts of the 610 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: people who were there. You can learn a lot about things. 611 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: This is a shot at my dinosaur. Take. No, there's 612 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: not a shot at your dinosaur. Take buddy, this is idiot, 613 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: but it is in fact. You know what, I'm gonna 614 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: do something before we get to the akeem thing. Uh 615 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 2: and you know, actually, this is what we're gonna do here. 616 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: This is I am doing this right now, right before 617 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 2: we get to the eighth grades player who's a kiem 618 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Olaje one. However, this is going to just be clipped 619 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 2: and be put on as the final segment of the show. Okay, 620 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: so it's a little extra work for the producers, but 621 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: they'll be able to do it. Demanse, do me a favor. 622 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: Walk over there and grab those three blue books that 623 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: all look like they're the exact same thing. Do you 624 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: see them at the top, because I have a bookshelf 625 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: behind me here that I want to show you guys something. 626 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: And then also, Demanse, hand me those and then grab 627 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: the brown textbook in the corner. But you can hand me, 628 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: yeah that, yes, hand me both of those. Okay, So 629 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: here's why I mention what I mentioned. Give me these 630 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 2: three books. Okay, you can set that down. This is 631 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: a Military History of the Western World Volume one. This 632 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: is a Military History of the Western World Volume two. 633 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 2: And this is a Military History of the Western World 634 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 2: Volume three. So this is from the earliest times to 635 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: the Battle of Leponto. This is from the defeat of 636 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: the Spanish Armada to the Battle of Waterloo. And this 637 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: is from the American Civil War to the end of 638 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: World War Two. Well, I guess everything in these two 639 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: books might as well be thrown in the goddamn garbage, 640 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: because no, I mean, we're talking about thousands of years ago. 641 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 2: Who could have read it? Who could have who could 642 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 2: teach you anything about it? So let's just pick a 643 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 2: page for a moment. I'm gonna read you a little 644 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: bit something from it. No, you're sticking with me. The 645 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 2: Rise and Expansion of Islam. This is about the Roman 646 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: emperors from five sixty five a d s. I'm fifteen 647 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: hundred years ago. So how do you think JFC Fuller 648 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: figured this stuff out? He did the research same way. 649 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: No I get angry about this stuff. How about this 650 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: The World's History by Howard Spudek. This is a book 651 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: I bought. You guys are gonna laugh at me. This 652 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: is really revealing quite a bit about me. But because 653 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm super interested in history, I paid one hundred and 654 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: forty five dollars for this book off of college's website, 655 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: bought from their bookstore, and just like was doing when 656 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: I was living in LA by myself. When you and 657 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: the kids, you are one of the kids. But when 658 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: you and your mom were in Houston your senior year 659 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: and I was in LA by myself, I just started 660 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: reading like the end, that's freaking that's an actual No, 661 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: it's a text flash. Yeah, Judaism and Christianity. Yeah, it's 662 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 2: a textbook because I'm interested in learning about stuff I 663 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: wasn't around to see, and that applies to world history 664 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 2: and this NBA list. Okay, all right, all right, thanks 665 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: for checking out another special episode of What's Right with 666 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 2: Nick Wright as the special editions of the fifty greatest 667 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: players the last fifty years. The countdown continues next week 668 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 2: we get to players seven and six, and player six 669 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: by definition, is not ahead of player five, which will 670 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 2: cause maybe the biggest fight of anything thus far on 671 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 2: this list. You'll understand when it comes out next week. 672 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 2: Appreciate you watching and listening.