WEBVTT - Astonishing Science of 2014

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing a couple of episodes here. These are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of round up episodes of science that occurred or came

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<v Speaker 1>to fruition in two thousand fourteen. We're recording this at

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<v Speaker 1>the tail end often, so it's possible, uh, in the

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks that follow that we'll make contact with aliens

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<v Speaker 1>or or some other major groundbreaking thing will happen and

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<v Speaker 1>we will have missed it just because they didn't occur

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<v Speaker 1>or they didn't publish the study for some reason until

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<v Speaker 1>the last two weeks of the year, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>we apologize. Also, we want to say this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing here. We're not trying to to to put

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<v Speaker 1>out an exhaustive, perfect set in stone, launch it into

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<v Speaker 1>space list of this is the science. It's more this

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<v Speaker 1>is these are some of the big stories that impressed

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<v Speaker 1>us that we think probably resonated with you. And also

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<v Speaker 1>some of this is, uh, we have some smaller studies

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<v Speaker 1>on here that you might have missed, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to point out why they're amazing and worth taking a

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<v Speaker 1>second glance at. Yeah, I think you covered it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a two part of the first is going

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<v Speaker 1>to focus more on astonishing science, and the second part

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<v Speaker 1>is just going to be more extraordinary science. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, this is not an exhaustive list, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a couple of things that may be familiar to you,

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<v Speaker 1>probably are, and a couple of things that will make

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<v Speaker 1>you perhaps gonna you know, cock your head to the

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<v Speaker 1>side and say, ah, has reframed my understanding of existence

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps not. Um. In any case, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and launch into it. And when I say launch into it,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I am referring to the Mars Science Laboratory,

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<v Speaker 1>also called Curiosity. Yeah, Curiosity was really really one of

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<v Speaker 1>the m v p s for science. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it wasn't interesting, it wasn't a really fun

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<v Speaker 1>topic to discuss. We'd have to mention it here because

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<v Speaker 1>he's just snow getting around curiosity. Um never, no, never,

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<v Speaker 1>now Now. Certainly, NASA's Curiosity rover has actually been on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of Mars since August. But this was a

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<v Speaker 1>very good good year for our eyes and ears on

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<v Speaker 1>the Red planet. Um. We'll see I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>where to start on this one. You know, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should just kind of say the main mission for

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<v Speaker 1>Curiosity is to answer the question could Mars have one

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<v Speaker 1>time Harvard life? So everything that it does, all the

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<v Speaker 1>data that it reports back on is trying to scratch

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<v Speaker 1>at this question. So two years later, we're beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>see some of this information put together from the pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of the puzzle. And that's what's so fascinating about where

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<v Speaker 1>we are right now, because it wasn't just the spec

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<v Speaker 1>tagular landing that it pulled off, that in and of

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<v Speaker 1>itself was a milestone um. But now we are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Curiosity cruise around there like it's a little wally, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lonely looking on that planet and reporting back some

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<v Speaker 1>things like, hey, there are some key chemical ingredients for

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<v Speaker 1>life in the gray powder that it's been analyzing and

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<v Speaker 1>it drilled out of the John Kline Rock outcrop. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sulfur, nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, and carbon and these,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, become really important in terms of building life.

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<v Speaker 1>And Curiosity has been assessing the Martian radiation environment, helping

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<v Speaker 1>scientists to better understand the hazards that radiation may post.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about dangers that could be posed to

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous microbes and human visitors should that occur. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was determined that the amount of radiation the Red planet

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<v Speaker 1>has exceeds NASA's career. That's for astronauts. Get to now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>good to know, Good to know. Now, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>a little over the top here for a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>say that just as Moses ascended Mount Sinai to receive

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<v Speaker 1>the will of God, so too did the Little Rover

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<v Speaker 1>spend much of two thousand fourteen en route to the

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<v Speaker 1>Martian Mount Sharp curiosity that already had already two point

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<v Speaker 1>discovered many of the key elements necessarily for life on

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<v Speaker 1>on Mars in the past carbon oxytion, hydrogen, phosphorus, nitrogen

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<v Speaker 1>uh in standing water, which we'll get to in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But the emergence of life also requires a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and it's reported by Mark Kaufman in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times, scientists previously only predicted a habitable period

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<v Speaker 1>of mere centuries or you know, a few thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>which which is nothing basically, when you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>window for life to emerge on a planet, but with

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<v Speaker 1>curiosities findings, we discovered a strong new evidence here that

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<v Speaker 1>gael Crater had large bodies of water for millions or

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<v Speaker 1>even tens of millions of years, to say nothing of

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<v Speaker 1>lingering water underground. So this year, in among other other

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<v Speaker 1>things from curiosity, the window for ancient life on Mars

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<v Speaker 1>expanded significantly, giving us a vision possible vision of a

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<v Speaker 1>of a blue Mars three point five to four billion

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, which is pretty cool. They also found an

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<v Speaker 1>ancient stream bed where water once flowed roughly knee deep

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<v Speaker 1>for thousands of years at a time, So again more

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<v Speaker 1>mounting evidence that water had been present and perhaps for

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<v Speaker 1>a significant amount of time now most recently. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are early days so we don't have the full perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on this yet, this sort of armchair perspective. But methane

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<v Speaker 1>was discovered on the planet mid December here, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is really important because since uh, we know living organisms

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<v Speaker 1>produce methane, then that gives sign to some pause to

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<v Speaker 1>scratch their head and say, m what possibly could be

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for this methane here found on Mars. So

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of four measurements and two months on Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>average methane levels increased tenfold before quickly dissipating. But this

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<v Speaker 1>cause of the fluctuation is really unknown right now. It

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<v Speaker 1>could have been created by a geological process known as serpentinization,

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<v Speaker 1>which requires both heat and liquid water, or it could

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<v Speaker 1>be the product of life in the form of microbes

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<v Speaker 1>releasing methane as waste product. Right now, according to Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Mahaffy of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, it's too much

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<v Speaker 1>of a single point measurement for us to really jump

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<v Speaker 1>to any conclusions. It's pretty amazing, though, and with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these studies, especially when we get into water

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<v Speaker 1>on Mars and UH, We've been gradually learning a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about Mars and its history over the years, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to kind of, you know, ease into some

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<v Speaker 1>of this information and not realize just how how groundbreaking

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<v Speaker 1>it is and how much how much more we know

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<v Speaker 1>about the Red planet versus UH ten twenty years ago. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of that same press conference, UH, it was also

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<v Speaker 1>they also broke down some information from May, some findings

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<v Speaker 1>from May in which the rover drilled into a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of Martian rock called Cumberland and found UH some ancient

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<v Speaker 1>water hidden within it, and then the onboard instruments were

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<v Speaker 1>able to analyze the sample, and uh I subsequently reveilt

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about the probable history of water on Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>Measured the ratio of deuterium, which is heavy hydrogen um

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<v Speaker 1>to normal hydrogen, and that that D t H ratio,

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<v Speaker 1>as they got, allows us to gauge how long it

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<v Speaker 1>takes for water molecules to escape because lighter HAWL hydrogen

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<v Speaker 1>molecules fly towards the upper atmosphere fear more freely UH

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<v Speaker 1>than the heavy hydrogen ones do. So the D two

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<v Speaker 1>H ratio in Cumberland is about half the ratio found

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<v Speaker 1>in the Martian atmosphere water vapor today and so NASA

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<v Speaker 1>scientists believe that this suggests that the planet lost uch

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<v Speaker 1>of its surface water after this rock form. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea here is that most of the Martian water likely

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared before the Convent Cumberland rock form about three point

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<v Speaker 1>nine billion to four point six billion years ago. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>just another insight into the history of Mars. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>I want to drive home with this uh and in

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<v Speaker 1>another entry that we're gonna mention that with a with

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<v Speaker 1>a project like Curiosity, you have a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is done in advance obviously, and you're shooting the arrow

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<v Speaker 1>off into the future, um, rolling the dice in some respect,

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<v Speaker 1>um to see how everything's gonna land, sometimes literally. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a lot of data you get back, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that data is crunched for you know, for for

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a long time afterwards. So just as curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>is still ongoing the data that it's sent back and

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<v Speaker 1>is sending back, there's a continual process of going over

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<v Speaker 1>writ and comparing and figuring out exactly what it means. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there have been some criticisms levied at the project

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it's not as focus as it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say, here's this monumental uh project, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first for humanity, you know, for Mars, and

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<v Speaker 1>and having this data collection rover, you're probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>some unfocused moments as you try to figure out exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what is present and how to interpret that data and

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<v Speaker 1>what direction to go in after you interpret it. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are several different experiments on board, there

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<v Speaker 1>are multiple tools that the scientists are able to use,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's gonna get pulled in different directions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing I think that happened is that

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<v Speaker 1>on Mars the rover took a selfie. Oh I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about this, Yeah yeah, sent it back like hey, look

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Well in two thousand thirteen, it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>drew a penis. Uh, well, and so did I. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we all get bored. We take selfies, we

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<v Speaker 1>draw penises. It's just how it goes. So when we

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<v Speaker 1>send a robotic emissary out there through the void to

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<v Speaker 1>an alien world, it's just gonna happen. Indeed, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to discuss Rosetta. All right, we're back. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rosetta mission from the e s A. This this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big one. And if it rivals curiosity just

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<v Speaker 1>and if not surpasses it in terms of the scientific findings,

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<v Speaker 1>the the drama even of getting getting this little guy there,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and just the the audacity of the experiment

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. Yeah, we're talking about a ten year

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<v Speaker 1>mission in the making. When in two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>the European Space Agency launched the Rosetta spacecraft. Again, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a circuitous six point four billion kilometer trek

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<v Speaker 1>across the Solar System, crossing the Asteroid Belt, and traveling

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<v Speaker 1>into deep space more than five times Earth's distance from

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<v Speaker 1>then on to the periodic comment known as Commet sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seven P. And now, once the spacecraft got close enough

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<v Speaker 1>to the comment, the idea was to do the unthinkable,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just to throw a little lander on it

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<v Speaker 1>and on top of it. No big deal. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this is this is this is like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those just sci fi meats reality kind of scenarios, right

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<v Speaker 1>that we were going to send this thing out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spend ten years hibernating to get there. And then

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<v Speaker 1>not only is it going to uh be the be

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<v Speaker 1>the first mission in history to rendezvous with the comment,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've had fly byes in the past. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>not only is going to escort it as it orbits

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, it's going to deploy a lander to its surface.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to land on a comet. That was that

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<v Speaker 1>was the plan, and uh, it mostly mostly came out Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it had some um some sort of high stakes moments

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<v Speaker 1>where it wasn't sure whether or not it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. The Harpoons does sign to attach to the

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<v Speaker 1>comment from the lander did not fire, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a problem in trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>a bead on the actual comment and and um and

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<v Speaker 1>find some stasis. Yeah, it's an issue with the descent

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<v Speaker 1>thrusters as well. And so what was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a smooth landing and in a very anchored landing, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there in a nice area where could get plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>solar radiation to repowers batteries. Instead it tumbles across the

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<v Speaker 1>surface and it hits a crater wall. And here it

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<v Speaker 1>is a position where it can only receive a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the sunlight necessary to sufficiently charge its batteries once

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<v Speaker 1>it runs out of juice. And how much juice? Sixty

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<v Speaker 1>hours of juice. So this was this was a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>big blow to the immediate future of the of of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so that the science just had to double down and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we got sixty hours of juice. Let's figure

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<v Speaker 1>out as much as we can about this comment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many zen moments I think that people

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<v Speaker 1>had to tap into in the control room, I imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>because by the time that it deployed from the rocket

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<v Speaker 1>with something like seven hours right to make its way

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<v Speaker 1>to actually land onto the comment for seven hours. That's

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<v Speaker 1>white knuckling, you know, hoping that it makes it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it is bouncing around, saying, oh, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that it actually stays. And then look it's it's got

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<v Speaker 1>some screws that is digging into the surfaces anchoring. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's anchored at an angle that it can't take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the full sun spectrum. So, as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>we got sixty hours, let's get to work. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>landed on November twelve, and last contact was November um

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<v Speaker 1>last contact contact as of now, and we'll get more

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<v Speaker 1>into that later. But in the sixty hours, we did

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<v Speaker 1>find out a lot about this comment. We found out

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<v Speaker 1>things we didn't expect. Yeah, and why would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to study a comment in the first place. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>are icy bodies that are regarded as fossils from the

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<v Speaker 1>times when the Solar system was originating, So this could

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<v Speaker 1>provide scientists with some prime, mordial prime material to work with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure everyone has seen the stunning images that we

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<v Speaker 1>received back of the comet, you know, these sort of desolate, gray,

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<v Speaker 1>dark images, but still very very inspiring. We found, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>that if this was not a smooth, whole shaped body

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<v Speaker 1>like we thought it would be. Instead, it's an odd

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<v Speaker 1>shaped coal black lump. Possibly two commets that merge together

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in the past, because it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looks kind of looks like two things, just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of two big awful rocks crunched together to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain extent. Found out that the surface is hotter than

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<v Speaker 1>we guessed and surprisingly ice free. The first inch of

0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the surface crust is porous, dusty, and contains almost no

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<v Speaker 1>ice um. Now the commet is only two point five

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<v Speaker 1>miles wide, but it expels so much water that it

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<v Speaker 1>could quote fill an Olympic size swimming pool in about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred days. So bear all that in mind when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the challenges of landing on this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>landing on the surface that you it turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be drastically different than what you thought it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Yeah, and then all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>have all of this information, like the isotopes, what do

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<v Speaker 1>they look like in that water? Do they match up

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<v Speaker 1>with Earth? It could it be comments or asteroids or

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<v Speaker 1>both that seated life on Earth. All of these questions

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<v Speaker 1>hang in the distance, and it's possible that we may

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<v Speaker 1>be able to answer them over a period of time

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<v Speaker 1>sorting through that data. Now, something that I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if it was widely reported on is that this comment stinks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got barnyard smells. Um. Sensor devices of the Rosetta

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft orbiting the comment sniffed out the gas molecules of

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<v Speaker 1>and According to Katherine Altwig, she's the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>Rosina project at the Center for Space Inhabitability, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>the perfume of sixty seven ps quite strong, with the

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<v Speaker 1>odor of rotten eggs, hydrogen sulfide, horse stable ammonia, and

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<v Speaker 1>the pungent, suffocating odor of formalde hyde. This is mixed

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<v Speaker 1>with a faint, bitter almond like aroma of hydrogen side

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<v Speaker 1>who knew? Nice. I'm always interested to hear what other

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<v Speaker 1>planets smell like. There's a I think I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>if we did a video about this at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. I know we did a blog Stinky planets, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stinky comments. Yeah. Because the stats are out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people say this, this planet smells like this, this one

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Sometimes the answer is a little more entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>than other times. A lot of there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sulfur out there. Oh, I'm sure anyway it it might smell,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has a pleasant singing voice. And that's because

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<v Speaker 1>the magnetic field of the comment oscillates at forty to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty millet hurts and the sound is too low for

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<v Speaker 1>human ears to hear it. But uh, the e s

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<v Speaker 1>a increase the pitch a thousand times and they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to make this song more hearable, and they actually

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<v Speaker 1>put it off on SoundCloud. I'll make sure I linked

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<v Speaker 1>to it on the landing page for this episode. But

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<v Speaker 1>does it have no No, it does not. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>very very ambient in space music. And how do space

0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.320
<v Speaker 1>music post about this? Why not? Um? But they yeah,

0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.320
<v Speaker 1>they took the data and then it was compiled by

0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.439
<v Speaker 1>German composer Manuel Smiffed. Uh, so it's it's very pleasant,

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.280
<v Speaker 1>very space it seems it sounds like the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>music a comet would have kicking around in it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we should probably discussed a few cultural aspects of Rosetta

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<v Speaker 1>as well, including Filet, the name of the lander. Yeah, indeed, uh,

0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Rosetta is of course named for the famed Rosetta stone,

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<v Speaker 1>the pivotal Greek Egyptian hieroglyphic artifact um, which of course

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<v Speaker 1>was vital in our understanding of Egyptian hieroglyphics and what

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<v Speaker 1>they meant, because we had basically the same text in

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<v Speaker 1>both Greek and Egyptian. And the idea with Rosetta is

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<v Speaker 1>that we would gain a better understanding of commas. We

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<v Speaker 1>learned the language of comments in the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>the Rosetta stone allowed us to learn the language of

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<v Speaker 1>the ancient Egyptians. And the rover is likewise named for

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<v Speaker 1>the filet obelisk, which bears a bilingual Greek and Egyptian

0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hieroglyphic inscription as well. Now, Rosetta was not without its scandal,

0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's not anything Rosetta did, but it has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with a scientist who was wearing a particularly colorful

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<v Speaker 1>shirt when interviewed about Rosetta. That's right, Rosetta scientist Dr

0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Matt Taylor UM wore a rather colorful um button up

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<v Speaker 1>shirt with a lot of kind of pin up ladies

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<v Speaker 1>on its scannily clad ladies, half naked ladies. Yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and then you know he's a he's a bearded dude. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos sleeved on each arm. And afterwards it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an outcry from from some from some scientists and

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<v Speaker 1>also people just observing saying, whoa, what's who? This is?

0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.520
<v Speaker 1>The guy's the voice of your mission, and he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>dressed like he's in a he just came out of Margharitaville.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's going on? Yeah, historical moment. Uh, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a sexist shirt. That's that's the criticism loved at him.

0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 1>But uh, yeah, I mean he took the criticism to heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would appear that he just he just was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit clueless about it. Yeah. He did a very heartfelt,

0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, tearful apology about it and was sorry that

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.160
<v Speaker 1>he'd upset people and that the press had really dove

0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.399
<v Speaker 1>into this a lot too, because, I mean, is if

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<v Speaker 1>the science, if this wasn't fascinating and and mind blowing enough,

0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 1>they had to find another angled report on. But they

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<v Speaker 1>even talked to his sister and she said, you know, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>he he's a guy who's so devoted to his work,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also the kind of guy who will lose

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<v Speaker 1>track of where his car or his car keys might be. Uh,

0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and so he can maybe be a little a little

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<v Speaker 1>clueless about some of the uh. The finer points of

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<v Speaker 1>life outside of the science environment, but didn't realize that

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.080
<v Speaker 1>his half naked lady shirt would be distracting. Yeah, but

0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, Carl Sagan was putting just straight up naked

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.840
<v Speaker 1>pictures on other probs we've sent out into the Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that is not He did not send a

0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>bargain kin up out there on the Pioneer plant. I'm

0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>just saying, mind drawing possible a possible um foothold if

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<v Speaker 1>one were to really, you know, get defensive about that

0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>shirt choice. Yeah, yeah, you know, we have a lot

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 1>of young people that listen to this podcast. We have

0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.200
<v Speaker 1>some middle aged people listen to podcasts. We have old

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 1>people who listen to the podcasts. We have immortal people

0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 1>listening to You may very well be it's very possible

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<v Speaker 1>that someone out there listening to this podcast could live,

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<v Speaker 1>if not uh forever for centuries. And it would be

0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.760
<v Speaker 1>my dream if someone like say Aubrey de Gray we're

0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 1>listening to this and he is, of course the bio

0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>gerontologists that I have a slight crush on, who talks

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<v Speaker 1>about maintaining the body like a classic car, and that

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<v Speaker 1>the first person to live to five hundred years old

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<v Speaker 1>has already been born. Yeah, yeah, I mean the degrays.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is like basically saying, all right, we

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 1>have this war against death. Well, let's break that war

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>down into battles, because wars are fought in battles. So

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 1>he divides it up into these these seven winnable battles

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>engagements against the enemy. And if you can figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to knock off each of these problems, then you

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 1>have the whole thing solved. Well, and what could could

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<v Speaker 1>be better than replacing your blood with younger blood That

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>would actually have some very beneficial effects. And uh. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties, Clive McKay of Cornell University in Ithaca,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, he was the first to sort of figure

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<v Speaker 1>out that some of this might come into play. He

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<v Speaker 1>stitched together the circulatory system of an old and young mouse,

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<v Speaker 1>a technique called hetero chronic parabiosis, and he found that

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<v Speaker 1>the cartilage of the old mice soon appeared younger than

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<v Speaker 1>would be expected. That was the first sort of clue

0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that something could be going on here. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, Thomas Rando at Stanford University in

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<v Speaker 1>California and his team found that young blood returned the

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<v Speaker 1>liver and skeletal stem cells of old mice to a

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<v Speaker 1>more youthful state during heterochronic parabiosis, and the old mice

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>were also able to repair injured muscles as well as

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<v Speaker 1>young mice. So here's the spooky thing about this too.

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<v Speaker 1>They found that young mice that received old blood appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to age prematurely. Wow, so it works both ways. Yeah. Well, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I love about about these findings, of course,

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 1>is that it it just goes into that classic idea

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<v Speaker 1>that that maybe old people could drink the blood of

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<v Speaker 1>the young and sustain their life and opens the door

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<v Speaker 1>that one to normalizing it to normalizing and one day

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<v Speaker 1>making it possible that old rich men uh no longer

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<v Speaker 1>have to just sleep with young women and marry them

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<v Speaker 1>and and take obtain their youth. That way, they can

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.760
<v Speaker 1>actually drink their blood or not will not drink it,

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 1>but they can, um, they can take things from their

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<v Speaker 1>blood and make themselves younger. Yeah. I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>more recent news item that was posted this year that

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<v Speaker 1>when I put it up on Facebook, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>said something like, millennials, you in danger. You gotta run

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<v Speaker 1>because more mounting evidence is pointing to your blood has

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<v Speaker 1>been really beneficial. So then you fast forward to two

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand and twelve, Yeah, that's right. This is when we're

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>seeing UH researchers demonstrating that blood from a young mouse,

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<v Speaker 1>or even just a factor known as g DF eleven

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>from a young from young mouse blood can rejuvenate the

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<v Speaker 1>muscles and brains of older mice. And the brain is

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<v Speaker 1>key here because in that we're getting into possibilities for

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<v Speaker 1>some of the debilitating of brain issues that that have

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<v Speaker 1>received so much attention over the years, particularly Alzheimer's. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have this young blood plasma that that

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<v Speaker 1>growth differential factor eleven, and you were to introduce it

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<v Speaker 1>to a human who has Alzheimer's, you know what is

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<v Speaker 1>that's the million dollar question? Would that actually help to

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>reverse the effects of Alzheimer's? And this year team at

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford School of Medicine did indeed start human trials on

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<v Speaker 1>participants who received blood that was under the age of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and given to people with mild to moderate Alzheimer's. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Professor's Amy Wagner's and Lee Reuben of Harvard's the Department

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of Stem Cell and Regenerative Biology. They report that injections

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<v Speaker 1>of g d F eleven um improve the exercise capability

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<v Speaker 1>of old mice that are about equivalent to a seventy

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<v Speaker 1>year old human, and also improved the function of the

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>old factory region of the brains and older mince so

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that they could they could smell more like a younger

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>mouse could smell. Now, I guess you'd have to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of extrapolate that into the sense experience of human versus

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a mouse, but that you you get the idea and

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<v Speaker 1>the h The theory here is that g d F

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<v Speaker 1>eleven improves vascularity and blood flow that is associated with

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<v Speaker 1>increased neurogenesis. Yeah, and the number of stem cells in

0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the brain as well. So this is really exciting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Again, this this sort of plays into already Degray's

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>idea that there are procedures out there, there is technology

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>out there that can help to maintain your body like

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>a classic car, and this would be one of them,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly one step closer to immortality. Maybe we get to

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>keep Patrick Stewart forever if only Yeah yeah, Ben Kingsley too, sure,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>why not? Maybe some more, but mainly those guys because

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>they have the capital. Don't forget Oprah, she's listening to Oprah. Yes, Oprah.

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I definitely am hoping Oprah lives forever as well. Yeah,

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she's got some R and D out on that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll see what else happened. Well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a big year free bola, of course. UM. Certainly not

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>the first year that ebola has been a major issue,

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>but it it certainly made more headlines, especially here in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, UM, as as as it became a

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<v Speaker 1>hot topic of discussion, even a political uh topic. Yeah.

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've known about ebil listens the seventies, but

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>this strain, the zaire straight first was detected in March

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and Guinea, and the virus has now infected more than

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen thousand people and killed six thousand people, uh, laying

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>waste to the healthcare systems, communities and economies of Guinea,

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Sierra Leone, and Liberia. UM. It looks like we may

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>be coming out of this. Um, that this may not

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<v Speaker 1>be a sort of world pandemic that's going to shut

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>everything down. But I feel like there were some really

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<v Speaker 1>scary moments there, UM, and that this has had all

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<v Speaker 1>of the elements of the human experience, because there's cultural

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>aspects to it. UM. There's some biases, they're pretty rampant

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 1>with it. And then there's just a huge amount of

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>data and research um that has been thrown at this

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>in order to try to stem it. Yeah, we know,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>we devoted a whole topic to Bola earlier in the year,

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and that should be linked on the landing page for

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>this episode, Sidal Understanding of Bola, where we just break

0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>on the science of the bowl of what we know,

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>uh and and at the time, what what was happening

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh and so we're not going to go through

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>all of that that information again here, but you know,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>basically there you kind of had. You had the science,

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you had the politics and the media fearmongering

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>on top of all that, uh, which made for an

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting overall experience of the Abola epidemic. Yeah, and initially

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to sort out fact from fiction. But

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like again there there does seem to be

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>a stasis that has been reached here and now we

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>do have these raft of studies to be picked through

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and to try to figure out what's going on and

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and to help researchers better deal with a deadly pathogen um.

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>We do not have a vaccine or treatment right now

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that is proven to be effective. I should say that.

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>But here are two examples of some studies that came

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>out of many, many, many many UH to get a

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>handle on why some people survive infection, scientists compared mice

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>resistant to below with those susceptible to it, and they

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>discovered that a gene in charge of blood vessel leakiness

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>may play a part in the disease severity. That's that's

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>one example. Another study published an m BIO found that

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>THEA Bola virus can edit its genetic material, adding extra

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>RNA building blocks, and then these changes may affect how

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the virus grows in humans. Again, there are a bunch

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of different factors that determine whether or not a person

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to survive this, and that's what they're trying

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to figure out. And in the meantime, however, medical trials

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that would normally take years or decades to roll out

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>have been fast tracked to a timescale of even weeks

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.479
<v Speaker 1>or months. So you know, we're going to see how

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>all this rolls out. But you know, hopefully um with

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.959
<v Speaker 1>the with the with the trials being sped up like

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>this and UH fire being lit u under the projects

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.959
<v Speaker 1>that we'll see what we'll see it come to fruition

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot sooner. Yeah, and that that is the hope.

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>But it does certainly feel better to be talking about

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this now in December, uh, than a couple of months

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>ago when it was very uncertain as to what was

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>going on. Now. The last entry is, uh, it's a doozy,

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about it before, and we thought it

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>was so important in terms of challenging our perception about

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>gender or even morphology, that we'd bring it up again.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about sex reversed Genitalia. I remember seeing the

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>embargoes release that was coming out on this one, and

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and I fell in love right away, and you almost

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>broke that embargo for two seconds. You're like maybe I

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I certainly had to had to double and triple check

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I wasn't breaking em bargo on the story,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>because I was just just get accidentally, you know, out

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of control and just push published. But but yeah, when

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I first saw it, I knew that this was we're

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna blog on it, We're gonna do I have to

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>do a podcast on this, and and heck even refer

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to it in a second podcast as we're doing now. Um,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Brazilian cave insects of the Eotrogla genus.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>This covers four distinct species and they marked the first

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>documented example of an animal with sex reversed genitalia. Uh.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>This was detailed in an issue of Cell Pressed Journals

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Current Biology came out earlier this year, and the researchers

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>found that females quote insert an elaborate penis like organ

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>into males the males much reduced vagina like opening during

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:34.479
<v Speaker 1>forty to seventy hour love making sessions. Yeah. When they

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.719
<v Speaker 1>saw this in the act, they did see it lasting

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>for forty to seventy hours, and this is thanks to

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the females inflatable spiny penis that anchors itself to the

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>males internal tissues. And during this time, the female trogla

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>gathers large quantities of sperm that she uses to then

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>fertilize her eggs. And researchers found that trying to pride

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the pair apart led the separation of the male abdomen

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>from the thorax without breaking the genital coupling, which led

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>them to speculate that the entire meeting process is controlled

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>actively by the females, whereas the males play a more

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>rather a passive part. I mean basically the situation here,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>as many headlines referred as, you have a female penis,

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>you have the I mean, technically it's a dinosome, So

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the female sex organs, but they've taken

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>on a phallic form to insert into the male sex organs,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>which have taken on a yonic form. Yeah, it's it's

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing, and I think it speaks not just to

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there's just rich biodiversity in caves that

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>we're still learning about, but also um that when we

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>do learn about it, there's a bit of cultural baggage

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that's put on top of this. And the reason I

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>bring this up is because one of the more amazing

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>things to me in the way that this was being

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>reported is that it was spun a is, hey there's

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a female organism with a painess and kind of glossing

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>over the fact that, hey, there's also a male organism

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>with a vagina, what you know, that's functioning like a vagina.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was curious. Yeah, it definitely plays

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>into a lot of a lot of our cultural ideas

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>about gender and is the title of our podcast episode

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>In this uh suggested it forces to rethink genitalia, to

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>rethink gender in a sense, you know what, what on

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>a biological level makes this a mail on what makes

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>is a female versus what on a cultural level? Yeah,

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and we won't go back into it, but if you're curious,

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>do check that out, because it is pretty astounding when

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you began to line up female and male genitalia and

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>see how incredibly similar they are, especially in their functions,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you know. And maybe that's what the Rover was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us into pousand and thirteen when it was

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 1>drawing a penis, is that it's just it's a penis

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>centric world. And yeah, I mean, Rover can't even like

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>skid sideways on a foreign planet without the press going

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>or maybe not the US, but at least the Internet

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>going crazy and saying, look, there's a penis on marks.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I know they didn't even see the vagina that it drew. Yeah,

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, so there you go. That's a that's our

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<v Speaker 1>first episode. We're gonna do a second episode where we

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little more about some of the science that

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>occurred in or came to fruition in and uh and

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and well, we'll run through a few more bits that

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you may have missed during the year. Yes, join us

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