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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Richard Martini, back with us. Author filmmaker who focuses primarily

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Speaker 2: on using hypnotherapy, mediumship or guided meditation to access the afterlife,

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Speaker 2: which interviews ets and those who have passed on to

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Speaker 2: the flip side as he calls it, and uses guided

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Speaker 2: meditation to interview contactees as well. His latest work is

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Speaker 2: called Close Encounters of the Flip Side Kind. His website

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Speaker 2: is his name Richmartini dot com, which we have at

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Speaker 2: linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com for you, mister Martini.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, George.

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Speaker 3: So good to hear your voice. It's been too long.

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Speaker 2: It is my friend. We ran into each other at

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Speaker 2: a conference.

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Speaker 3: You're always We did contact in the desert, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's around your birthday, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's coming up again in another couple months.

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Speaker 3: That's so thrilling.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny is that they invited me to come and speak,

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Speaker 3: So I will be talking at that contact and.

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Speaker 2: Well seeing you that Saturday or June first. I believe

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Speaker 2: that day.

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Speaker 3: That's so fabulous.

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Speaker 2: So you do you have another winner here with the

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Speaker 2: Close Encounters of the Flip side kind. Tell me about

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Speaker 2: the title.

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Speaker 3: It's a funny title, and mainly because when I went

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Speaker 3: to see Close Encounters of the Third Kind and they

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Speaker 3: showed it at the Contact in the Desert last year,

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Speaker 3: and I remember outdoor screening.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Classic, and I'm sitting.

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Speaker 3: There in the lawn chair and I recognize a person

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Speaker 3: in the movie, Jay Allen Heinek, yep, who uh you know.

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Speaker 3: He's got a goatee and a pipe. And Spielberg does

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Speaker 3: one of those you know, classic close ups of him

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Speaker 3: as he's looking at the spacecraft arrived. Well, that was

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Speaker 3: my science advisor when I was in grade school.

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Speaker 2: Heinik was yes, if.

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Speaker 3: You could believe it. Back in Chicago, I'm in seventh grade.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how he knew Sister Joel from the

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Speaker 3: Nuns of Saint Casimir at Saint Norbert's grade school. I

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Speaker 3: have no idea, but so she told me to do

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Speaker 3: this science project, and she assigned Professor Heinech to come

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Speaker 3: over to my house and he would come over with

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Speaker 3: his pipe and his gook tea.

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Speaker 2: That's how he walked into the movie Close Encounters.

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Speaker 3: Of the Third so that I recognize him on the screen.

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Speaker 3: So it's very strange. And plus, of course you know

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Speaker 3: his son, Paul is an author and a scientist and

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Speaker 3: a professor. Yeah, and so I met him there. We

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Speaker 3: had a lovely chat and then at some point we

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Speaker 3: did a guided meditation over the past year where I

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Speaker 3: spent a couple of hours with him doing the thing

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Speaker 3: that I do. You know, I like you mentioned hypnotherapy, mediumship,

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Speaker 3: guided meditation, and so we asked him invited is his

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Speaker 3: request his dad to come and talk to us? And

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Speaker 3: I asked his father if he.

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Speaker 2: Remembered me from the flip side.

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Speaker 3: But from the flip side his father on the flip side.

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Speaker 3: During this guide to meditation, picture yourself in a boat

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Speaker 3: on a river. It's in the Divine Councils in the

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Speaker 3: Athlete book. But it's a very simple meditation and you

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Speaker 3: just see what happens. You start asking questions like so,

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Speaker 3: who's here? And when he arrived he appeared. You know,

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Speaker 3: I asked him the same questions I ask everyone who

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Speaker 3: over there? What have you learned? Those kinds of things,

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Speaker 3: and he talked about what I was like in grade school.

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Speaker 3: The word he used was persnickety, which I haven't heard

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Speaker 3: probably since The Wise Guy. Yeah, wise Guy asks a

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Speaker 3: that after that, of course, now I have these resources.

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Speaker 3: So as you know, I work with Jennifer Schaeffer, a

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Speaker 3: medium from Manhattan Beach, and we interview people. Well, on

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Speaker 3: And it's a fascinating interview, but it allowed me to

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Speaker 3: go to realize I have been having these conversations not

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Speaker 3: had them all do a simple guided meditation. None of

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Speaker 3: were able to talk to their councils, talk to their guides,

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Speaker 3: these councils, some of them appeared as each I mean,

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Speaker 3: but the classic different types, you know, and you've heard

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Speaker 3: like reptilian or because you know, they're just people from

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Speaker 3: other realms apparently. And I asked them the same questions.

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Speaker 3: they'll say, oh, this is very strange. This person looks

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Speaker 3: like an alien. And I'll ask them to describe them

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Speaker 3: from before? Have they ever incarnated on your planet? Have

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Speaker 3: you ever ever incarnated on the planet Earth? And one

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Speaker 3: I asked him to explain that. He said that Earthlings

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of fear involved. So that was an

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Speaker 3: interesting viewpoint. But so that's what I've been doing for

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Speaker 3: And I realized, you know, in close Encounters of the

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Speaker 3: that we're supposed to be evercoming. They used math and

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Speaker 3: music and light right, all the song and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: And that comes from a government study a cryptologist in

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Speaker 3: And he came up with this idea that because if

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Speaker 3: mathematicians and if we communicate in math. And my point

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Speaker 3: when I came upon is that when we communicate in dreams,

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Speaker 3: and none of that is math. It's all telepathic. An

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Speaker 3: know you've had Gary Schwartz on the program.

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Speaker 2: Sure, he had.

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Speaker 3: That experience right after Harvard where he was in a

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Speaker 3: There's a filmmaker Bill Benning, Bill Bennington, I think I've

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Speaker 2: Same thing happened to me. Rich. I was going through

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Speaker 2: something just overwhelmed me in my little head, just saying

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's amazing that

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Speaker 3: the question becomes like, you know, Gary Schwartz has spent

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Speaker 3: And whether you're doing it with hypnotherapy or doing it

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Speaker 3: killed him. So the point is that that voice, Now,

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Speaker 3: like sound waves. But somebody who's watching over you, I

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Speaker 3: is like, he's gonna get nailed if he goes through

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Speaker 3: They did it, and so we can give them credit

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Speaker 3: for that. And one day, as you and I love

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Speaker 3: to say, you'll know who that was. But right now,

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Speaker 3: the idea is, what is that it's a telepathic communication

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Speaker 3: can do that through guided meditation, where you know they're

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Speaker 3: seeing somebody, let's say, sitting in a boat an uncle

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Speaker 3: how do you know George? And he said that you

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Speaker 3: came back stage to see him in Vegas? But that's telepathic.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not seeing his lips move when he's

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Speaker 3: and this has been really since I first started this

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Speaker 3: had an ET event, I was abducted, and I'll say, well,

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Speaker 3: if you want to explore it, we can. And then

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