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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode of the Professional

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Speaker 2: Homegirl Podcast. It's your favorite phg eb and A and

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Speaker 2: I am super, super super excited about this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: My guest will be sharing her story of being inter sex. Now.

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Speaker 2: Intersex individuals are born with sex characteristics that don't fit

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Speaker 2: traditional definitions of male or female. This natural variation occurs

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Speaker 2: in about one in two thousand births and can become

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Speaker 2: evident at different stages of life. And today's episode, our

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Speaker 2: professional Homegirl would share her exceptional journey, shedding light on

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Speaker 2: the challenges and resilience of intersex individuals. She talks about

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Speaker 2: her mom raising her as a boy, discovering that her

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Speaker 2: aunt is intersex, becoming pregnant, and so much more. Y'all,

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Speaker 2: so get ready because I'm intersex. Starts now? All right,

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Speaker 2: to my guests, thank you so much for coming on

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Speaker 2: the show. How you doing. How you feeling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing great. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. You know I'm feeling much better.

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Speaker 2: I feel like these past few weeks have been a

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Speaker 2: little rough for me, but I'm starting to flick my

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Speaker 2: old self again. So thank you for asking, because nobody

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Speaker 2: really asks me.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes really gotta ask the hard world.

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Speaker 2: Look, girl, it's a hard ass world. Okay, y, now,

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Speaker 2: can you explain what intersex is?

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Speaker 3: Inter Sex is when you're legally born with female and

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Speaker 3: male parts, sex organs anyone. It could be different on

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Speaker 3: anyone's body, like some people can fully have male parts

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Speaker 3: and inside can be ovary, or it could be vice versa.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the gist of it.

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Speaker 2: When did you first hear this term? Because I feel like,

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Speaker 2: growing up, I always heard of hermerphrodite. Yes, but is

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Speaker 2: that is that considered derogatory term?

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Speaker 3: No? So when I first told my story, I was

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Speaker 3: calling myself a home after day and it wasn't up

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Speaker 3: until like both of that people were correcting me and saying, no,

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Speaker 3: just say you're intersect because it's just they don't They

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Speaker 3: for more of a kind of like not so harsh word. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I feel like when I heard it when

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Speaker 2: I was growing up, I thought it was like something

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Speaker 2: like like something that happened like like in Greek mythology

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Speaker 3: Right, right, that was my first time actually hearing about it,

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Speaker 3: and I was just like wow. And the older I got,

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Speaker 3: the more I found out about my body, I was like,

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Speaker 3: was hard growing up because I always felt like different

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Speaker 3: at me be like, what is that? Like is that

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Speaker 3: I can't say that if I look more masculine to you,

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Speaker 2: But I love what I see, right, and that's all

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, like people just I guess, people just

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Speaker 3: This is definitely a man. It's like you don't even

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Speaker 2: So what would you say, are some common misconceptions about

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Speaker 3: I would say, like, that's a good question. Actually, I

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Speaker 3: Yes, Like a lot of people have asked me like, oh,

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Speaker 3: a completely different thing being intersect. You're legally born with

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Speaker 3: both your body makeup. Just you just have both organs.

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Speaker 3: You have everything that a woman would have and a

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Speaker 2: You don't want to curse these niggas out because I

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Speaker 2: feel like that's also a personal question to ask you, Like,

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Speaker 3: I remember when I first started getting like a lot

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Speaker 3: both of them? Like what you want to say? Like,

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Speaker 3: it's just people just are really bold, but I choose

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Speaker 3: I can't stop saying that another site, as long as

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, would you say that? Another misconception is that

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Speaker 3: I will say that as well, like says I've posted

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Speaker 3: and it's just like we're really it's a lot of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no need to like cap. You know what am I

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Speaker 3: So it's like, what's the one to telling a lie

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Speaker 2: That's one thing I will say is similar to the

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Speaker 2: lot of people start seeing more of them. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's a lot of us, like so many.

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Speaker 3: I actually have a aunt that is also intersect and

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at you now. I don't see a

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Speaker 3: You know, she's a little more private because she's in

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Speaker 3: I wish I could have growing up talked to her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, God bless her because I can only imagine

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Speaker 2: how her journey was.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I can't even imagine that, you know, especially

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Speaker 2: She probably had no choice but to be quiet.

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Speaker 3: Right, right. But she's very open about her sexuality though

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Speaker 3: I would say she's open about that, but as far

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Speaker 2: Now, does she know you're innocence.

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Speaker 3: I feel like everybody in my family knows, just because

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Speaker 3: you know, black, like your mama, everybody, like everybody knows

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Speaker 3: them much because everybody's just so scattered, but you know,

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Speaker 3: when I do see them, they still the most respect

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Speaker 3: and they always just get extra hugs. And sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: Was like god, no, like no, wait, so when you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you think about that when it

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Speaker 3: I trusted to come in and you know, I'm thinking,

435
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 3: you know, he's a cool guy, but really, all in all,

436
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 3: he wants to try it out and you know, just

437
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: take advantage of me. But that was actually when I

438
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: found out it was a difference in me. That was

439
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: the start of it. When I got molested the first time,

440
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: it was just like now I know I didn't. It

441
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: was almost like a mental thing that happened in that

442
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 3: moment was like, Okay, I know I've never done this before,

443
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: but I know he wasn't in my butt. I know

444
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: he wasn't. It was it was just like I didn't

445
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: really know my mom didn't really.

446
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I get what you were saying, Like that's how

447
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: you kind of was aware that you was a girl.

448
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I realized I had a vagina. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,

449
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: well I know he.

450
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Right. I mean, this is not funny, y'all. Which 'all

451
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: know how we do it, right, right?

452
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: Got it? Wow?

453
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: That is so interesting. So I can only imagine on

454
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: top of you being sexually abused, but then it's kind

455
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: of like an eye opening moment for you.

456
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: Right, it was just kind of like that's a lie. Yes,

457
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: And then it was like I even you know, looked

458
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: in the mirror sometimes I'm like trying to see what

459
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: I can see back there. And it was just like

460
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: the first day that I actually saw it, I was like, okay, wait, god, wait,

461
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: this is a lot. Yeah.

462
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: Did you ever notice that? Like you didn't never like

463
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: like if you go pee or something, you never knew

464
00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: that you had an extra hole?

465
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: I noticed because actually sometimes when I do see it's

466
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: like a mental thing now that I know how to

467
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: control it, but it's a mental thing where sometimes it

468
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: will come out the diana. Sometimes it will come out

469
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: just the other you know, the other part, and it's

470
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: just like okay, right, It's like it's just always a

471
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: lot mentally going on. I know, I control certain things

472
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: that most people can't control. And yeah, it was just

473
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: that was my first encounter with it all, just being molested.

474
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: So when did you start to like dress like a girl?

475
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: I would say, I.

476
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: Was it after that situation when you started to become

477
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: a little bit more aware of your body?

478
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: Yes, I will say. I even have videos and I

479
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: was like a baby on the little VCR takee that

480
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: you know our parents need to record. I try to

481
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: put the towel on my head for hair like souse,

482
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, you got me with this temp Fay.

483
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a bus down, right right, they

484
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: have you with a tempe. I wanted a bus down

485
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: and I used to like my mom's always taking like

486
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: you always put towers on your head and stuff. And

487
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, because I knew it was something

488
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 3: to be up there. I was not suppos to be.

489
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: That's just been my choice.

490
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: She really wanted her son.

491
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: Yes, And I don't blame her, like I said, because

492
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 3: it's like I can't imagine that and her being the

493
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: first time mom. It's like, well they told me I

494
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: was having the sun. You know, I don't really know

495
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: what else to do, Like she didn't really know. And

496
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: she also was a little bit closed off in the beginning,

497
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: like she really didn't want to know about it. She

498
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: really just kind of just didn't want to deal with

499
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: it at all. Yeah, but you know, that's that's her choice.

500
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: I know one day I pray every day, like one

501
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: day that we are just able to be happy and

502
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: blended and you know, there for each other, supporting each other.

503
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: She supports me, but it's like from a distance.

504
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So she's still having trouble challenges with it.

505
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and you know, to me, it's like it's

506
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: been a long time since, you know, I've explained everything.

507
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: It's been a long time since you know, you've been

508
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: knowing this, And you would think by this point she

509
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: would be a little bit more just okay with it.

510
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: We're here now. Yeah, Like I'm I'm petty Moore like im.

511
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: It's more of his time. Yeah, she's she's getting there.

512
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: Last year, when my grandmother passed away, I ended up

513
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: moving back home with her and my sister, and I

514
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: feel like that was when it was an eye opening

515
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: moment for her where she really realize like, Okay, my

516
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: child is grown, my child has this difference, and I

517
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: have to accept whatever they are, you know, come with Yeah.

518
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: But it's just yeah, it's taken her some time though.

519
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: She did see that I got engaged. Now I wasn't

520
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: hiding my ring, but I was just low's just like

521
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: you know, kind of talking like this and keeping my

522
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: hands down. But when I finally left, that's when she

523
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: found out like, oh, you've been you engaged me, Like

524
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: that's when she really started to realize that, Okay, you know,

525
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: my child is my child.

526
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: But I would think that that would make her want

527
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: to be even more open to it, because now I

528
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: would feel good as a mom knowing that my daughter

529
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: has somebody that loves her for who she is.

530
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Right and as much as I I agree, I know

531
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: my mom it's just two a little old fashioned, and

532
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: she's also just come from that generation yea. So it's

533
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: just like she's not really open with it, you know.

534
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 3: It's just to her like, y'all, my kids are grown.

535
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: Y'all got their own lives. I'll always support you can

536
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: always call me, but I'm just you know, I got

537
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 3: my own stuff going on.

538
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you're getting a little sad.

539
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: No, it just makes me emotional sometimes, Like I wish

540
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: I could like be able to sometimes call my mom

541
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: and be like, let me tell you what my fianta

542
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: just did, like girls with her. Yeah, And my mom

543
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: is not the Kiki type. She's like, I don't want

544
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: to know if y'all drinking, doing whatever y'all do. I

545
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: don't want to know any of that. And it's just like,

546
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: who do you talk to? You're the person that we

547
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: get advice from.

548
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So at some point, did you have to forgive

549
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: her because of everything that you've been through? Yeah, I did.

550
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: It was just got to the point where one day

551
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: I was at home by myself and I was living

552
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: on campus at the time, and I just remember I

553
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: was just crying. I was so depressed, and it's just

554
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: like every little thing that I went through was just

555
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: in my head. And that's why I really made that

556
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: decision with God, and I was like, hey, God, from

557
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: this day for I'm letting it go. I forgive him

558
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: for molesting me. I forgive my mother, I forget my father,

559
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: I forget anyone that's ever wronged me, and I'm moving

560
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: forward with my life because I know better days they're coming,

561
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: and I know troubled don't last always and these are

562
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: just test that was supposed to break me.

563
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, listen, I did some research on you,

564
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: and I didn't think we was gonna get this deep baby. Yeah,

565
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you, thank you for being just

566
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: so transparent and honest, because I really do believe that.

567
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: I always teld my professional homegirls, you know, you should

568
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: definitely share your storyline because you never know how it

569
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: can be somebody else's lifeline. So I really appreciate it. Yeah, right, thank.

570
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: You so much. Yes, you never know who you're helping.

571
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: You never know just by you speaking up. If God

572
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: put you in that predicament to be able to speak

573
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: on something, take that opportunity to say people. You can

574
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: so many people out I say so many people and

575
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: it's just amazing feeling to know. Like to me, I'm

576
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: thinking my life is just in shambles, but in reality

577
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: it is like I'm helping people at back and continue

578
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: my journey and I can't ask for anything more.

579
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do your siblings think of all of this,

580
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: especially what you're sharing your story, your relationship with your mom,

581
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Like how do they feel because are you close to

582
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: them as well?

583
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: Or Yes, I'm close to my sister and the most

584
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 3: we're just the closest out of all seven sisters and

585
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: five brothers. Yes, the same mom.

586
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: No, nude, you know what I should know because daddy's out.

587
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: They be out here, and I will say we talk

588
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: every single day and they're very supportive. All my siblings

589
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 3: pretty much support me. Just growing up, it was just

590
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: like they were my best friends. It's like we're we're

591
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: a very close family. And I know it's like pm I,

592
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: but it's like, where's those siblings that we can be

593
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: around each other naked, and you know, it's just like

594
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: we're we're just open books to each other. So yeah,

595
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: they love the fact that I finally spoke my truth

596
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: and had that opportunity to have a documentary about me.

597
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

598
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm grateful for them because they they cheered

599
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: me on and they helped me keep pushing.

600
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did anyone of your sister have a conversation with

601
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: you about sex? Just so you can, because how did

602
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: you learn about sex?

603
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: I learned about sex with my mal a station. That

604
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: was my first dredge, just learning about everything that goes on.

605
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: Even the private school that I was going to, they

606
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: had like elementary older kids that would come to the

607
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: the daycare and one of the kids from the you know,

608
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: elementary school would touch me. He would, you know, do

609
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: things to me. Yeah, I just a lot. I supposed

610
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: to broke, like break me and I'm still here. That

611
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: was my That was just how I was introduced to it,

612
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: like this is what you do. This I know too,

613
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: you know everything. It's like everything de started to kind

614
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: of come together. Yeah, but it wasn't until maybe like

615
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: fifth grade when they started teaching sexual education and stuff

616
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: like that. Oh yeah, man, it is it really is?

617
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: And I know when I become a mom, I want

618
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: I want feel like they can have fun and do

619
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: things like that. But I know, I I know you

620
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: have to.

621
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: You have to.

622
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a crazy world. If people will do things.

623
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 3: You know, you're like, no, that have my homeboy. No,

624
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: he's doing something crazy behind closed doors. And you never think, yeah,

625
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: you do something like that.

626
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: Listen. I had a conversation with a young lady. She

627
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: thought she was friends with this girl. I think they

628
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: was like they met in church, their moms were church friends. Whatever.

629
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: And I think the night of her prom, her friend

630
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: and her friends drugged her and they raped her. What Yeah,

631
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: and then she started blacking out. And then once she

632
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: came back, I think they must have gave her something

633
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: else whatever, and then it knocked her out again, so

634
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: she didn't remember anything until like little things started coming

635
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: back to her. She was like, oh my god, I

636
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: think they took advantage of me.

637
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: Wow.

638
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: And she was like she couldn't be no more like

639
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: what eighteen because she just graduated Jesus. Yeah, you can't

640
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: trust people, man, Yeah, you can't.

641
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: That's why my my circle literally consists of my sister,

642
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: Like like I have friends you know that I communicate

643
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: with you know, here and there, but my sisters are

644
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: my best friends. It's like, I just keep it very smart.

645
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: I used to be cloth off but had so many friends. Yeah,

646
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: and people wouldn't do me so wrong. And that kind

647
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: of taught me throughout the years, like you can't trust nobody, No,

648
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 3: you can't.

649
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: People are crazy. Niggas are niggas. They are different, crazy.

650
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: Like it's just like insane, Like how people would just

651
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: be in your face one day smiling and you know,

652
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: but the whole time they're plotting on you or you know,

653
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: looking to you know, do something to you that can

654
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: hurt you. It's just that's why your discernment has to

655
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: be on key on.

656
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Tin, on a swivel. Okay, okay, now, how would you say,

657
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: once you learn more about Intersect, how did they shape

658
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: your perception of yourself and your identity.

659
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: I would say it took a weight off my shoulders.

660
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: It made me finally feel like okay. As I know,

661
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: I don't really look at categories and things like that,

662
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: but it definitely made me feel like okay, I definitely

663
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: don't follow in the gay category or the trance category.

664
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: It's just like on my own category, like to the

665
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: world on my own category. But to me, it's just

666
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 3: like it gave me at least it's not what people think. Yeah,

667
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: and I would say it gave me more confidence and

668
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: it allowed me to just feel like I'm a queen.

669
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: God made me.

670
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: And you know, made a little bit more special.

671
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.

672
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, how did this influence

673
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: your mental health? Because I can only imagine from where

674
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: you were a young girl to where you at now,

675
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: you probably had like a journey with it.

676
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah, I was a I love to eat, I

677
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: would say that, and I would like it was a

678
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 3: coping mechanism. We call it coping mechanism. And I would

679
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: eat until I was full as a bat. And it

680
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: was even at a point where I was like eating

681
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: and throwing it up as soon as I eat it

682
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: because I was like having so much of a like

683
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: just criticizing myself. So I think, yes, I wanted to

684
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: say believe me, but I didn't want to I didn't

685
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: know if that was the term for but I think

686
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: it is, believe it. I would yes, I would throw

687
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: my food up. It was just being bullied and people

688
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: calling me gay, people saying I'm, you know, just all

689
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: the whole nine and you being a kid and not

690
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: really understanding yourself nor this life that we are even living.

691
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, I'm throwing it up. I ain't

692
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: know if I want to be big, skinny or what.

693
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: It was just I had so much going on.

694
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you, because I

695
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: know earlier you mentioned that you was pretty popular, and

696
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: I know from a very young age you told your

697
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: friends like listen, this is what it is, and that's

698
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: that on that, but people will still bully you.

699
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: Yes, people would still have their opinions. I think it

700
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 3: was also because like like fool wise, you know, when

701
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: teachers don't know everything about you, you know, they call

702
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: what they see. So if you're dressing like and boy clothes,

703
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: they're going to call you a boy. So to my friends,

704
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, this is our girl. From when you

705
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: get in the classroom, the teacher's like mister and all

706
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: this stuff. And it's like it was almost every single

707
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: time when a teacher would do that or say he

708
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: or him or anything like that, it would just be

709
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: like I'm hiding myself. I just felt like like I

710
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: want to run away. It was very hard.

711
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: Do your mom call you by your first name?

712
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: Now?

713
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Does she call you by the name that she gave you?

714
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: She don't really call me anything. It's just more like, hey,

715
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: what's up?

716
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: Like, okay, she's really not fucking with it.

717
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: Right, Like my mom is justly understanding. It's just like,

718
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: you know, if you don't want me to call you

719
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: what I want to call you, then I ain't.

720
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: Gonna call you nothing, right, right, be glad that.

721
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: I'm calling you ship right exactly. Yo. They don't play, man, Yay,

722
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: they don't play. It's like when they say something and

723
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: it's completely opposite from what they want.

724
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a girl's a rap.

725
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 3: Right, You're lucky.

726
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: I need just talking to you right seriously. Now, before

727
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: we get into your current relationship with your fiance, would

728
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: you say that being intersect impacted your relationships with romantic

729
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: partners before you got with him.

730
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: I would say in the beginning, like my freshman year

731
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: of college, I would say it was definitely a challenge, Yeah,

732
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: because it's like you already battle so much and then

733
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: to have to explain it to someone, it's kind of

734
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 3: like I don't know what they're gonna say. I really

735
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: like this person. I don't want this person to be drifted,

736
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, drifted away from me because of this. And

737
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: it was almost like I feel like I had to

738
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: high certain thing or if I'm intimate, I would like

739
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: hide certain things like you.

740
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: Know, just but that's not fair to you though.

741
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: I know, and I once I realized my worst and

742
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: I got in a four year relationship, I was like, yeah,

743
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna do that again. Because it wasn't up

744
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: until year three when I finally told the person that

745
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: I was with for four years that I was intersect

746
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: he didn't know. I'm telling you the way. It was

747
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: just like I would hide it like I like, he

748
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: never knew.

749
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: But see, that's not the man for you, because I

750
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: feel like when you when I'm with a man and

751
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: I really loved him, I want him to know every

752
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: part of my body. So the fact they didn't even

753
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: notice it, I would have felt the way if I

754
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: was you, because it's like nigga, we how long?

755
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: Okay, like he said he figured, but he was just

756
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: like I just you know, I love you for you,

757
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: but no he was loving him street mm hmm. That's

758
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: what it really was. But I feel like that was

759
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: just the first My first experience was real love.

760
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

761
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: Feel like I was trying of, you know, taking out

762
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: the hood. You know, I moved to Midtown and you know,

763
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: moved him along with me because I'm like, you know,

764
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: he said he rapped, Okay, yes, rapper, and I was

765
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: just like, you know, Midtown would be good for you

766
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: to branch off and stuff, and me trying to you know,

767
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: really do for someone that's not really doing for me.

768
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: It kind of slidded me in the face. In a

769
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: long run. He was He was good, Like I would say.

770
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: He made a few songs about me, and I literally

771
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: used to be like bomping to it in the car.

772
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: But your ass was sprung, That's what that was.

773
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: It was.

774
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: I think that was he was digmatized.

775
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. He was a Scorpio and I feel like my

776
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: mom's a scorpio two. So I just feel like he

777
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: was easy to Yeah. Yeah, And I realized you're not

778
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: the one for me when year four came and he

779
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: looked me in my eyes and said, I don't see

780
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: myself marrying you or anybody else. Oh, So I ended

781
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: it that day.

782
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's you want to be somebody wife so listen,

783
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: I feel like one nigga tell you something. You gotta

784
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: believe these niggas.

785
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the first time.

786
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: As a rapper.

787
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: You know, I would say he kind of put it

788
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: on hold and really just trying to start a new

789
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: life after our relationship ended. But you know he's he

790
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: actually is still very supportive. We still do talk, and

791
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 3: my is okay with us still talking because he knows,

792
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: like I'm way beyond that, yeah, after in my life.

793
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: But a few times, like when we needed help when

794
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: we moved in, you know, we were about to be

795
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: put out and had to go to the shelter, he

796
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: definitely came through and was like I got you, like

797
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: as you said, have though right about three hundreds you.

798
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Know, wait, so how did you meet your current boyfriend

799
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 2: or your current fiance?

800
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: We met on the dating app and he reached out

801
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: to me and I was just having to be on break,

802
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: and you know, he was just like, oh, well, do

803
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: you want to meet up later when you get off

804
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: of work, And I was like, yeah, well, let's just

805
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: have our first conversation first. I mean, like I did

806
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 3: put it in my bio on intersect. So him coming

807
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: in to talking to me, he already knew that, but

808
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: I did explain it to him again, and then I

809
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: was on break and he facetimed me and it was

810
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: like the minute I smiled, she was like, oh my god.

811
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 3: She was like, you're my wife? Is my husband?

812
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: Because I'm going a little done after.

813
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: I was the first time when he's bed back because

814
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: you know, you know nowadays it wasn't say anything just

815
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: to get what they want, right, But it was just

816
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: like you could tell he was so genuine with it,

817
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: Like when I saw he was like, you are gorgeous,

818
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: Like you're literally my wife.

819
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I found you what that's beautiful.

820
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: Thank We literally met Monday and Friday we were engaged.

821
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: You're lion the same week.

822
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

823
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: I told him I won't go any further. You know,

824
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm done because I was just tired of dating after

825
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: that four year relationship and I was just dating, dating, dating,

826
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: and it was getting nowhere. And I'm like, God, you

827
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: told me since I was little, I was gonna be

828
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: a wife by twenty five, not at twenty five. By

829
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: twenty five, I'm getting married. And this is the year

830
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: I turned twenty five. And I met him January twenty.

831
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Fifth, yes, And did you feel like he was the

832
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: one when you first met him?

833
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: I did, now, I will say, pulling up to his

834
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: house where he was staying at the time. You know

835
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: he's from Atlanta, I was terrified, Like he lives, he

836
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: lived in the trenches. Girl. I was like, we're going

837
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: in the house and we staying in the car. Yeah,

838
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm talking about undercover cops driving through the neighborhood like

839
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: it was.

840
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: And at least you know he ain't no punk Okay.

841
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I mean.

842
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: You need a nigga to hold it down and protect you, now,

843
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: so that's important.

844
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: Man, m hm, Yes, and he will he don't play

845
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: like he does not play at all.

846
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but were you nervous about like putting that in

847
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: the use? You know, sometimes people like to date you

848
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: for who they think you are, against me, like just

849
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: really getting to know you, because you know, people are

850
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: weird they are.

851
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: And I will say that was why I was over dating,

852
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: just because I had so many dates and so many

853
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: guys Like I didn't put it in the profile, but

854
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: when we finally had our first date or our first

855
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: long conversation on the phone, I would like let them know,

856
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: like you know, I am intersect and they're like, oh,

857
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: that's cool with me. But I was there first and

858
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: it was almost like a science experiment, like they just

859
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: wanted to try me out, and then they realized they

860
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: didn't like it, and they did yeah, and it was

861
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: just it was like very heartbreaking. So I was like,

862
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: you know what, I would put it in the profile.

863
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: So therefore you can't say you didn't know. I can't

864
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: say any of those things, like I want you to.

865
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Know from the jump exactly exactly did you and your fiance?

866
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Now did y'all face any issues because of this? Because

867
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 2: I know it was something I was watching you were saying,

868
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: or I think somebody either you and him were saying

869
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: how people think that he's gay and you're like, no,

870
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: he's with a woman.

871
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it was just a few common well not even

872
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: a few. You know, you have a bad few apples

873
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: and comments. Most of our comments are positive, but I

874
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: will say, like those comments where people be like oh

875
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: Solomon and Gomore and bring up things from the Bible,

876
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: really just like come at us and it's like you

877
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: don't even know the half of what's going on. You

878
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: just think you see something and just instantly judge the

879
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: book bast cover, and I would say that's about it.

880
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: But him being from the hood and stuff like that,

881
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 3: he's just like, you know what they say. You know,

882
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: they ain't paying our bills, they're not putting food in

883
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: our mouth, Like why should we care?

884
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's a fan. Thank guy that he's

885
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: very strong minded too.

886
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thank God for him because he told me

887
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: with being more confident and just not really caring and

888
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: speaking my shoes, showing up in my crew and not

889
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: really caring. We're all human, we're all different, we all

890
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: have different purposes on this earth, and this is my purpose. Yeah.

891
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: Now when did you discover that you were pregnant and

892
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: how did you feel?

893
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 3: Oh? My god? I found out when we moved to Making, Making,

894
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: Georgia and we had just moved down there. We both

895
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: had until March first to find somewhere to go because

896
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: I was saying with my mom and she, you know,

897
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: gave me to the March first, like she gave us

898
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: a date to move out. No, he was living in

899
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: his own place like he was like renting from someone.

900
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: His lease was up. My first mine was also my

901
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: first just out of coincidence, right, But when we moved

902
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: to making I took the test and I saw that

903
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: I was pregnant. My stomach was getting bigger, I was nacious,

904
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, what is going on? And that's

905
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: what made me even go get the test. In the beginning,

906
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, you know I've been close before, but

907
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: let me see if this time guy really wants that right.

908
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: And when I saw that I was pregnant, it was

909
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: just like, Lord, I know you're about to do something

910
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: powerful and something big with my life because you know,

911
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: the odds of me actually getting pregnant are very low.

912
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: It's very hard for me to get pregnant. So for

913
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: me to have been pregnant, it was like, Okay, God,

914
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 3: you know you must really love me, really have something

915
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: you know for me on this earth that's bigger than

916
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: what I can see. And people didn't believe that I

917
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: was pregnant. People will say like, oh, you just got

918
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: a beer belly, just trying to be funny, like yeah,

919
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: you know, you ate too much or something like that.

920
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: When behind closed doors, me and my husband was going

921
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: through it with that pregnancy, with us moving, being homeless

922
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: but hotel living, it was just kind of like a

923
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: lot going on. Then to be turned down by doctors

924
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: and referred to go to this place and in that

925
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: place refers to and not being seen, not getting the

926
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: help that we need. It was like I had so

927
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: much going on with that pregnancy, throwing up, having super

928
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: super back cramps to the point where I'm like falling,

929
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: trying leaf over the bed and get out of the bed. Sometimes.

930
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: It was just a lot that went on with that pregnancy.

931
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: Do you know anybody that is intersect a baby, Like,

932
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: is it possible?

933
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that's had a baby, but I

934
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: know a lot of people that say their intersects. You know,

935
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: they're mostly women and they have had children, but they're like,

936
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: I have both, so they may have like a what's

937
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: the word for the enlarged senitelia or you know things

938
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: like that. And that's all saying like everyone could be different.

939
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: So I'm sure it's intersects women that do have children.

940
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: And I'm surprised that none of the doctors wanted to

941
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: help you with some of the challenges you were facing

942
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: doing your pregnancy right.

943
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: Right, And I say it's because like Atlanta, where we're

944
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: coming from, they're more hits, two.

945
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: Different yeast they know what Timon is out there, and

946
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: it's like New York right and right.

947
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: And that's why a lot of people were recommending me

948
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 3: to go to Atlanta to get check stuff. And yeah,

949
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: but we moved to making it was like a real

950
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: urban black town, so it's like not it was. They

951
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: weren't really up on game with things like that, and

952
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: me trying to go back and forth to Atlanta really

953
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: wasn't in the It just wasn't in the story at

954
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 3: that moment because moving down to making One, like I said,

955
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: we were homeless, hotel living, so all our money was

956
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: going to hotels, my concerts lap So it was like

957
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: me driving back and forth to Atlanta with knowing corncerts

958
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: that's a death job. And it was just like I

959
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: really was in a helpless situation and yeah, like I

960
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: just know God had it could have yeah, because it

961
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: really could have gone a different way, I probably could

962
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 3: have died. I probably just it was so many things

963
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: that could have happened. But I'm grateful to still be here.

964
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm grateful to still be able to speak my truth

965
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 3: and speak about you know, our angel baby.

966
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how many were you?

967
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: I got up to four? I say four months because

968
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: we just calculated the timeframe where when we were dating,

969
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: but I'm not really sure because I never got a

970
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: clear answer from any doctor or yeah. So it was

971
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: just it was more so of us just kind of guessing, like,

972
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: I know, I didn't do anybody before you, so it's

973
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: got to be four months, five months, like we were

974
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: just trying to just calculated. But the bigger my stomach got,

975
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 3: it was like, okay, we really need to figure this out.

976
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: And I kept going a different doctors clinic, like they

977
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: had clinics down there where they specialized in helping women

978
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: that are pregnant. They do the free ultrasound, and they

979
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't see me. She said, we have to have a

980
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 3: group of the pregnancy. I have a big belly right here,

981
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: I have the pregnancy test, so why just give you

982
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: a pregnancy test. She did it. She said, we can

983
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: refer you to another clinic. Then I called that clinic.

984
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: That clinic was like forty five minutes away number one.

985
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: So I caused them and I'm just like, okay, maybe

986
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: I could just set an appointment online. No one answered.

987
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: Called the next day, no one answered. Went to a

988
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: different clinic. They basically did the same thing refer me

989
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: to that same like the other clinic that the first clinic,

990
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: it was just like too much going on.

991
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: Did you tell them upfront that you was intersex?

992
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 3: No? And that's and that justay like that yeow. It

993
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: wasn't even a real conversation. That was hading. Was just

994
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: like hello, I'm here, you know one of you know,

995
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 3: ultrasound and it a full set up in the turned

996
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: me down. Wow.

997
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't wonder if you're gonna do something about that,

998
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: because who knows, maybe you know what I'm saying that

999
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: you would the stuff been able to have your baby

1000
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: like nobody help.

1001
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel that a lot. But I also

1002
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: feel like because I'm still here because now I seek god,

1003
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: you know, shift in the atmosphere and opening up so

1004
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: many more doors because of that experience I forgave them.

1005
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people have been telling me, like,

1006
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: you can sue them, you have grounds to suit me

1007
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: talking about it me even yeah, yeah, And it's just

1008
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: like as much as I would love to sue or

1009
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: anything like that, me reliving those moments and and seeing

1010
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: those people that turned me away, it's just like it's

1011
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: a reach like trigger and I just come to just

1012
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: a point in my life where I let things go.

1013
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, if it wasn't meant to be, then I

1014
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: know when the time comes and I am either fully pregnant,

1015
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: I decide to adopt whatever I decided to do when

1016
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: I would become a mother, It's going to be my time.

1017
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn. And as you know, people already have their

1018
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: opinions about the health care system, especially when it comes

1019
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: to black women. So just you experiencing this validates how

1020
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: people been feeling from dating from the jump, you know.

1021
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. And it wasn't any black people working,

1022
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: so I can't really say if it was racism or not,

1023
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: but I will say none of the employees were black.

1024
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: Listen, I think everything is racism, so don't get me started.

1025
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: Like I want to be that word friend that's like

1026
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: everything racist.

1027
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: But it's like everything is racist or everything is about capitalism. Yes, Like, damn,

1028
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that you experienced that, but I also

1029
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: feel like it. I feel like it gives me hope

1030
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: to know that you it's possible for you, So I

1031
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: hope you feel the same, and hopefully you'll be pregnant

1032
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: again and you'll have your baby song.

1033
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, we're speaking that to existence. But I

1034
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: know God really before he moves us anywhere else, and

1035
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: I know God has really been putting in spirit for

1036
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: us to go ahead and get married because I've been

1037
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: practicing saying, oh, that's my husband. He says, that's my wife.

1038
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: But I'm like, now, got to put it in the

1039
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: spirit where it's like, go ahead and get married for real,

1040
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 3: so I can open up some more doors because that. Yeah,

1041
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: and really just really settle down and honored the fact

1042
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: that what God brings together, no man can tear apart.

1043
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: But He's brought us together, and we've made it through

1044
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: so much. Go ahead and priyly not go ahead and

1045
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: make that big step. Yeah. And my my fiance's uncle,

1046
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: he's a pastor. He definitely he kind of guide at

1047
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: us a little bit. He was like, you know, I

1048
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 3: help y'all as much as I can. He was like,

1049
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 3: but I would like support you guys so much more

1050
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: if y'all did things the right way and got married.

1051
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: And I thought that it's really it's like I'm ready

1052
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: to be married too. He's ready to be married. But

1053
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: it's like when you've never been married before, it's like

1054
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: you don't know where to go or the courthouse and

1055
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: then do what and ask for what. It's just like,

1056
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: but we we're gonna definitely do that as soon as possible.

1057
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 3: We decided to go on the celebrate journey until then.

1058
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: How long y'all been celebating?

1059
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: I would say a week now? Yeah, uncut this guy

1060
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 3: at us, and it was like something clicked in my head,

1061
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: like your uncle ain't lying, try to like try to

1062
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 3: not so. I feel like we had that long deep

1063
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: talk and it was like, yeah, let's just be celibate

1064
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: until because now it feels wrong when God has put

1065
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: it in the spirit, and it feels wrong to even

1066
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: be having said with him. So it feels like I'm

1067
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: blackphemous to God, Like I know we're supposed to be

1068
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: married before we have sex, but it's also like, God,

1069
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: the world we live in now, you got to catch

1070
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: them out sometimes like you don't know, but I don't.

1071
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to get married to get the boy.

1072
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: Right right right.

1073
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: Every now and then God, you gotta feel what he's

1074
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: talking about. Girl.

1075
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, we almost finish, y'all. So, and what ways do

1076
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: you feel that society he can be more inclusive and

1077
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: understanding of intersex individuals.

1078
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Speaker 3: I would say, stop putting us in a category. Stop

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Speaker 3: putting everyone in the category. You know, we're all humans,

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Speaker 3: we all have different purposes, and we're all created differently.

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Speaker 3: Gain co are different, care is different, We're all different,

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Speaker 3: and you know, let's just stop putting each other in

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Speaker 3: categories and boxing people in. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And last one, not least, what advice would you give

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Speaker 2: to the to others who may be discovering or come

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Speaker 2: into terms with their inter sex identity.

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Speaker 3: I would say take it all in. It's a big

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Speaker 3: pill to swallow. Yeah, but I will say tap into

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Speaker 3: yourself more, tap into talking with God more. Because even

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Speaker 3: though people may feel like God is so against anything

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Speaker 3: of that, it's like God loves us, God creates us,

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Speaker 3: He makes no mistakes. So if you're finding out that,

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Speaker 3: if you are discovering that, it's just know that you

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Speaker 3: are a favorite and know that God has a plan

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Speaker 3: for your life. It's not to be like everyone else

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Speaker 3: is to be set apart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm so happy that we had this conversation.

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Speaker 2: I had a young lady and I think about her

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Speaker 2: every now and then. She is intersex as well, and

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Speaker 2: we've been talking on and off for I want to say,

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Speaker 2: maybe like three years and yeah, but she has a

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Speaker 2: lot going on. She's from uh, she's from Africa, and

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Speaker 2: they're not too nice over there. I think it's. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So every now and then she reach out to me,

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Speaker 2: and then I reach out to her, and then just

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Speaker 2: not even just for her to be on the show,

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Speaker 2: but just to make sure she's okay because I know

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Speaker 2: she's having a really challenging time over there. So but

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Speaker 2: I am happy that I found you. That's the sum

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Speaker 2: it all up. And you know, when I saw you,

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Speaker 2: I was like, cause I was doing research and I

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Speaker 2: was seeing all the different types of people or individuals

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Speaker 2: that was coming now and sharing a story, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, look at her, like she is a battye Like.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you for sharing your story and just

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Speaker 2: being so transparent with me because I know your story

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Speaker 2: is really saving a lot of people. So I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Sis. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me

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Speaker 3: and giving me this opportunities to further speak truth. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to listeners, if you have any questions, comments

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Speaker 2: of concerns, or if you want to say hey girl, hey,

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Speaker 2: psgpodcast dot com and, like I always say, make sure

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Speaker 2: to share your storyline because you never know how it

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Speaker 2: can be someone else's lifeline. Until next time, Everyone later Later.

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