1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're talking about trailer as, we're talking 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: about movie theater attendance data and more. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: This is News. 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm rothe Night 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: and welcome back to x Ray Vision of the podcast 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: of pop culture, coming to you from my heart or 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: or bringing you three. 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Episodes a week. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: Plus news, It's News, It's News. In today's previously on episode, 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: we are catching up on the. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: Biggest deep news of the week, including new trailers for 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: Disclosure Day, What's it about I Malcolm in the Middle 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 4: of Return, and a very highly anticipated and fucked up 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 4: look in horror movie called Obsession. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: Plus we're going to be. 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: Talking about a new sequel coming for a hit animated 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: movie and how many of you went to the movie 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: Fits last year. 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: But first trailer news. We've got our latest trailer for 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day, his first directing project since The 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Fableman's in twenty twenty two. 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Oh, and. 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: This one a little bit more. I mean I enjoyed 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: this one. Some more action, you get, the kind of 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: texture of it is. The suspense thriller still no view 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: of the aliens, though you do get a quick, quick 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: UFO shot. This, I believe is the first full trailer 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: for the film. Josh O'Connor plays a government leaker who 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: has the information about the government's long held secrets about 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: alien life. He's got the video on his phone. He 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: plays it for his wife, who is Bono's daughter. Malie 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Blunt plays at Kansas City meteorologist who begins speaking an 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: alien language. Colin Firth is some sort of Charles Xavier. 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: Like bad guy. 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: I this one got me, got the pulse pounding, you go. 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited now. 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I still think I need a little bit more, but. 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: I'll get it. 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: What I like about it is I feel like it's. 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 4: Giving us all the tropes we expect, the government conspiracy, 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: the crop circles, like our alien's power is gonna be, 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: you know, used by the evildoers of the world. So 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: I'm hoping that he's setting up kind of a history 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: of kind of all the alien tropes and then he's 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 4: gonna bring his Spielbergian kind of take to it. 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's got a great cost. Obviously, 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: I will be watching up next. 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: Malcolm in the middle life is unfair. 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Malcolm in the Middle is back after I want to 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: say twenty years or something. 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: It's got feels like at least twenty. 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. The original cast except for the Criminal 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: is here. Yes, Frankie muna Is, Jane Kis, Merrick, Brian Cranston, 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Christopher Kennedy, Masterson, Justin Burfield. The trailer opens with with 56 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Brian Cranson show with the with Malcolm's dad, Brian Cranston 57 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: getting his like asshole and balls shaved on live like 58 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: FaceTime with his youngest son. 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: And the story of pears to evolve around the fact 62 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: that that Malcolm is like no contact from his family 63 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: for a period of decades and now has a young daughter. 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: He's apparently just like lied to everyone about them too, 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: so he doesn't have to like deal with the fact 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: they exist. So it's obviously gonna be an ultimate kind 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: of awkward cringe comedy. I've seen a lot of big 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: nostalgia for this one. I mean, I remember my when 69 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: One Division did Amalcolm in the Middle inspired kind of 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: opening scene. So I think that this show was always 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: on syndication in the UK when I was growing up, 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: and it did have a fan base, but I didn't 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: realize it had like a let's reboot this fan base. 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: But I've seen a lot of people get really excited, 75 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: and I mean they really start with making a statement 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: with the balls and black hair being shaved on a 77 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: zoom call with your son. 78 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: So yes, very interesting. 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a four part event on Hulu, which 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: I'm guessing means if people watch it, they'll probably make 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: it a series that seems to be what we're doing nowadays. 82 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: But yes, very interesting And. 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: Am I gonna watch it? I don't know, but I'm 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: intrigued to see how it does. 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 4: I always find it very interesting when something I kind 86 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: of originally missed out on comes back in a really 87 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: big way. 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: And I mean they got Brian Kranston back. That's not a. 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: Cheap guy to get back. Let's post breaking bad. So yeah, 90 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: very interesting. 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: Up next, new theater horror film opening May fifteenth from 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Focus Features in Blumhouse called Obsession. 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: And the trailer is creepy Skin Crawley. 94 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: It is shot like the movie the Tim Robinson movie Friendship. 95 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: Yes, it's giving like weird a twenty four vibes. 96 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: Yes, it definitely was a huge It's is directed by 97 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: a director, new director, Curry Barker. 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: This was a huge festival hit. 99 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: They bought it a tiff for yeah, reportedly fifteen million. 101 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: Who yeah, because it just got people going like crazy. 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: It's about a guy who I think they do a 103 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: really good job setting up here is clearly just like 104 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 4: a social introvert, even though he's quite conventionally good looking, 105 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: and you kind of get this vibe from his friends, 106 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: like he has this crush on this girl, and they're like, well, 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: have you ever talked to her? Have you ever asked 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: her on a date? And eventually, after flubbing a good 109 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: night kiss, he breaks something called like a one wish 110 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: willow and he wishes, unfortunately for him. 111 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: Kind of an antique candy, some. 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: Kind of antique like candy or toy or something, and 113 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: he ends up wishing and again we were talking about 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: this in pre pro guys, when you make a wish, 115 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: you've gotta be careful about the terms, and he unfortunately 116 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: wishes for her to love him more than anyone in 117 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: the world, and then we get to see how that 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: obsession quickly becomes dangerous. This is an ultimate be careful 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: what you wish for a movie apparently really cool, really crazy, 120 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 4: and I can't wait to see it. The trailer looks 121 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: like so much fun that even super producer Ian, who's 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: not one of our spooky guys, was intrigued to see 123 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: this one. So I'm very excited for that. 124 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Next up, Beef is Getting White Lotus Beef season two, Yes, 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: has a new trailer out. The series premieeres April sixteenth 126 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: on Netflix. It is eight episode odes. Of course, the show, 127 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: created and show run by Lee Sung Jin, Steven Ewen, 128 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: and Ali Wang remain on board as EPs, but we've 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: got an entirely new cast with the same basic premise 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: of Beef. There's a agen z couple played by Kaylee 131 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Spainey and Charles Melton. They work at a country club 132 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: and they become like entangled in this like this marriage 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: that is like breaking apart, and both couples en vibe 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: for the approval of the club's billionaire Korean owner, Chairman Park. 135 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: And it's a beef looks very fun. 136 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm in trim. 137 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm always wary of an anthology, but I'm gonna give it. 138 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, the first season was really fun, so I'm willing. 139 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: To give Trying to say, I think it's tough to 140 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: follow up a show like Beef that was both like, 141 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: for one minute, the most popular show in the world 142 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: and did win a ton of awards, but also had 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: like unseen amounts of controversy around it because of certain 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: inclusions in the cast and it's It was legitimately one 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: of those crazy like everyone watched it. It was so fucking 146 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: well made an incredible show, So I'm interested to see 147 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: if they can keep that up. I was not one 148 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: hundred percent sure, but I do think this is a cast. 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: I'm a huge Charles Melton Truther and obviously Oscar Isaac, 150 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: Carrie Mulligan, Kaylee Spenny, Like, this is a cast that 151 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: is a It's like it's up there with a Stephen Yun, 152 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: Ali Wong double Bill, who were just so incredible in that. 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: So I'm very excited. Also, from watching so much. 154 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: Cub Your Enthusiasm, I am like obsessed with country club 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: and golf club culture and also obviously like eighties movies. 156 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think this is gonna be really fun. 157 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: Here's our best trailer I think of the bunch unquestionable. 158 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: The new trailer for the new season of The Vampire 159 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Lestat on AMC is. 160 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: Just a rollicking, colorful good. 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: The opening credits that apparently like, but it just looks 162 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: like the best thing you've seen. 163 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: It's giving. 164 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: It really looks it's giving. Like they totally changed up 165 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: the opening. They know that this season is going to 166 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: be about Lastat and his musical career. 167 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: But if you've watched the. 168 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 4: One clip that they have released so far, which was 169 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: the IgM fan fests, we know that it seems like 170 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: in this version, Listat will create his band not as 171 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 4: a way to expose. 172 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: This is the second. This is the second. This is 173 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: Vampire Chronicles, right. 174 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 4: So exactly that's basically what we're adapting is we're at 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: the point now where Lstat is going to be in 176 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: his band era Mick Jagger era, which the music is definitely. 177 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: Don't worry guys, if you weren't a fan of new 178 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: metal Lstat, like me obviously I was a huge fan. 179 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: This is gonna be more of your t Rex David 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: Bowie inspiring. 181 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: But we do get some nods here. 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: We see a kind of poster on a wall of 183 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 4: a Twilight esque vampire higher. You kind of get this 184 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: history of vampire law and you get a lot of 185 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: Easter eggs to the Vampire Chronicles. Plus we know that 186 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: Lastat is essentially going to start the band because he 187 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: reads interviewed the Vampire and doesn't like the way that 188 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: Louie told Daniel but he behaved and that he had 189 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: a bob and all this shit. So it's going to 190 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: be incredibly pay incredibly messy. But yeah, I agree with 191 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: you that this dropping as like a tease, but also 192 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: being the opening credits, it's like HBO level quality. You 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: can tell that they think and know that this could 194 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: be their big award season push. We're going to get 195 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: Akasha here, the Queen of Damned. We know that Louis 196 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: will be. 197 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: In some kind of legal case against the Start. 198 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: It seems like maybe it's something to do with the 199 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: way that the Start's represented in the book. 200 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: It just looks messy and gray, and we can't wait. 201 00:10:51,040 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: It looks so good. We have some other fun news 202 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: that's not trailer based. 203 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: But if you guys are kind of wondering what Superman 204 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: Man of Tomorrow, the Superman sequel is gonna look like, 205 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 4: how many heroes are going to be in it, we're 206 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: getting some hints. 207 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: Now. We did just get an announcement via Deadline that 208 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: Aaron Pierre will be joining Superman as his younger green 209 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: lantern John Stewart, not from The Daily Show, who we 210 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: saw very confusing in the It is I. 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: Think a lot like I know it. 212 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: Is pop culture. 213 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: But also this is really interesting because it shows that 214 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: there is still going to be that connectivity between lanterns 215 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: between Superman. People were a little bit confused because we 216 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: heard How say he was the only human. He references 217 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: the squirrel green lantern, but that made people go, oh, 218 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: where's guy. Obviously, I think with the paramount purchase of 219 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: Warner Brothers, we don't really know where the James Gun 220 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: of Us is gonna go. So this is at least 221 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: an interesting tidbit that they're still planning for that connectivity 222 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: as far as they can keep making these movies. 223 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: H And it'll be interesting to see, you know what, 224 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: John Stewart's relationship to Guy Gardner in this film right 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: in general. 226 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: Because he's very serious as we see him in the trailer, 227 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: and Lantern's is very much like how doesn't have a ring? 228 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: How is not a good guy, which you know a 229 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: lot of us have always said. But and the John 230 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: Stewart is clearly like I'm the right man for this, 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: and that's very much the opposite of guys kind of 232 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: lazie affair, doesn't care attitude. 233 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: So I'm excited. 234 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: In general, we don't know. 235 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: It's it's quite unclear what the relationship between the three 236 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: official slash unofficial Green Human Green Lanterns are to the 237 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Green Lantern Court itself, so that's interesting as well, like 238 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: what what is that relationship? Like are these guys because 239 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: there's I don't know. It feels like not everybody is 240 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: on the up and up about. 241 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: I was gonna say not affiliated officially either. 242 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: In the Corpse, it's feeling. 243 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: Very busted, but I guess that's kind of where we're 244 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: at with James Gun's superhero world is like how do 245 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: humans live in a world where superhero powers exist? So 246 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: that could be an interesting conversation. I also want to 247 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: know what the Lantern show is about. I get they're 248 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: doing True Detective, but like, I need a little bit 249 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: more guys. But I do think Aaron Pierre is fucking amazing. 250 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: He's so great just he's a star, so I'm very 251 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: excited for that. I also obviously love to see Chandler back. 252 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: We love him from Friday Night Lights. It's giving like 253 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: such a good, cranky old towl Jordan. 254 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: But yes, let's see we need more. 255 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: I feel like, ironically, what happened that was so good 256 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: at the beginning of James Gunn's launch of this kind 257 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: of DC universe creature Commando's being their peacemaker being there, 258 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: it may did it start to feel like, oh, we're 259 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: getting this all the time, we're immersed in it. 260 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: I feel like whatever production issues or you. 261 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: Know, choices that they've made around TV, I feel like 262 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: the gap in having that kind of animation or that 263 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: little bit to keep us going, is making it feel 264 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: a little bit less vital, a little bit less like 265 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,119 Speaker 4: it's the thing to be around. It will be interesting 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: when Dad Evil comes out to see how much the 267 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: Marvel hype gets and where the DC gets a little 268 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: bit left behind because they don't have a show right now. 269 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Up next, speaking of need more, K Pop, Demon Hunter's 270 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: sequel has been announced, and here's how you know that 271 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: they can't wait to get this news out. There's they 272 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: haven't even begun like any note stage of development for 273 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: this project. It's literally they it seems as if they 274 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: just got the signatures of Maggie King and Chris Applefin's 275 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: Applean's like on the contract that they will return to 276 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: write direct and immediately went out and were like, hey, guys, 277 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: don't worry, it's coming back. 278 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: This is the thing that's so interesting is like this 279 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: story was already basically around, like we knew that they 280 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: were probably going to develop one. It's like become an 281 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 4: Oscar top contender for Best Song. 282 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Golden is Gone Platinum or five times platinum. 283 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: I think when I was at the K Pop Demon 284 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: Hunters for Your Consideration screening, they announced that there, Like 285 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: it's an. 286 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: Emotion watch film on the on Netflix of all times, 287 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: all the time, and. 288 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: It is really funny because you're so right, and this 289 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: is the thing that Netflix has managed to do very well. 290 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: Depending on if you're a journalist, you may. 291 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: Not feel that way. 292 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: There was a lot of controversy about it, but Netflix 293 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: actually has their own website called to Dumb, and they 294 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: announced this on there. And that is the purpose of 295 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: too Dumb is if you get somebody's signature and you 296 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: sign it in Netflix, you can call one of your 297 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: writers and go, hey, so it's happening right now to put. 298 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: This in variety like it's happening baby. 299 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: So Maggie Kank said, I feel immense pride as a 300 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: Korean filmmaker. The audience wants more from this Korean story 301 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: and our Korean characters. There's so much more to this 302 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: world we have built, and I'm excited to show you. 303 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: This is the only beginning. And Apahan said, these characters 304 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: are like family to us. Their world has become our 305 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: second home. We're excited to write the next chapter, challenge 306 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: them and watch them evolve and continue pushing the boundaries 307 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: of how music, animation, and story can come together. Now, guys, 308 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: remember Kybob Demon Hunters was originally announced in like twenty 309 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: twenty at the beginning of covid Era, and it took 310 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: us till last year to get the movie. 311 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: This is a Sony animation movie. 312 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: We know they take their time, so it's probably not 313 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: gonna happen really really soon, but I would. 314 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: Love to see it. 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: I think the only thing that I wanted more of 316 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: from Kbop Demon Hunters was after empathizing with Ginu and 317 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: the demons, I was then, you know, didn't want to 318 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: see loads of demons get killed. So I'm interested and 319 00:16:53,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: excited to see the exploration inevitably of Rumi's far and 320 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: who he was and which demon he was, and obviously 321 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: to see how Ginknew and Rumy come back together. I 322 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: think we're going to get more banging songs from EJ 323 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 4: and the girls. 324 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 3: I also think that this is very smart because yes. 325 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 4: Post the Oscar, those girls are going to be probably 326 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: becoming a hunter Tricks band that will tour. 327 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: A lock them now they're going to try. 328 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: You know exactly like so yeah, very very interesting. Anna 329 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: hilariously kind of connected to our next story because I 330 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: am the number one believer that k PUP Demon Hunter 331 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: should have got a full cinematic release because it would 332 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: have driven people to the theaters. 333 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Jason, Well up next, Well, this is this actually dovetails 334 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: nicely into a conversation we've been having on the show, 335 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: and I've been having with various. 336 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: People, as have you. 337 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's concerned about AI and data and the 338 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: way and kind of variously annoyed or frustrated at the 339 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: way that data is used to you know, target for 340 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: audiences make creative decisions. K Pop Demon Hunters shows that 341 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: no matter how much data you have, and nobody has 342 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: more data than really Netflix, who know who will give 343 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: notes like our audience loves it when the love interest 344 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: shows up in the first fifteen minutes of a epis 345 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: you know like that kind of stuff right that you 346 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: still have no idea you never know, Like to be 347 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: fair to Sony and Netflix, they had no idea that 348 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: this was even possible, so they did not know up next. 349 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Only half of Americans went to a movie theater in 350 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, according to Variety. Pure Research Center study 351 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: conducted in the summer of twenty twenty five found that 352 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: fifty three percent of US adults said they had seen 353 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: a movie in theaters in the prior twelve months, which 354 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: is a small but notable. Seven percent said they had 355 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: never seen a movie in a theater at all, which 356 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: is interesting, of course, love that in twenty twenty five, 357 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: moviegoers in the US and Canada, per the story, bought 358 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: seven hundred and sixty nine and chain million tickets, less 359 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: than half of the all time peak of roughly one 360 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: point six billion tickets sold in two thousand and two. 361 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: US theaters sold just over nine billion worth of tickets 362 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: last year, which is recovery but still about twenty percent 363 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: below pre pandemic levels and. 364 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: Are we concerned? How concerned are we? 365 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: It's a concern, it's a concern. 366 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: Also, there's like interesting demographic numbers because about two thirds 367 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: of adults aged eighteen to twenty nine reported seeing a 368 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 4: movie theater in the last year, versus only thirty nine 369 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 4: percent of adults aged sixty five and older, and that 370 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: used to be quite a hefty demographic that they would 371 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 4: be trying to go for. So it's interesting to see 372 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: their focus back on that younger group. Also interesting because 373 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: we know that that is the group that Marvel and 374 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: DC are arguing over a lot that they're trying to get. 375 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: So the audience is there. I want to thank all 376 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: of our listeners because I know you guys do go 377 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: to the cinema. We love the movie theare. We think 378 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 4: it's super important. We want more people to go. But 379 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: I do also want to say I understand not everyone 380 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: wants to go to the movie theater. 381 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: Like obviously, we live in LA so we're blessed. 382 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: We have so many incredible movie theaters around us rep 383 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 4: there as even the AMCs there are pretty good. We 384 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: have a lot of options. We know that's not always 385 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: the case. I would also say I think movie theaters 386 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 4: need to do a better job at making the movie 387 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: theater experience more affordable for people with families. Like it's 388 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: all well and good if you're going by yourself. I 389 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: love to go to a Tuesday movie. I love to 390 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: get a little kid snack box. I can make that 391 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 4: whole thing happen for under twenty dollars. But that is 392 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 4: not the case if your going to an AMC to 393 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: see the Super Mario Galaxy movie with your partner and 394 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 4: your two kids, Suddenly you're spending one hundred and twenty 395 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: dollars and it makes a lot more sense to watch 396 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: a movie at home. 397 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: So I think it is like. 398 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: A cinema exhibition issue and an audience issue, and also 399 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: just like everything that we're all going through in life 400 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: for the last like six years. 401 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: If you're if you're on our discord or or you 402 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: haven't joined our discord, and you feel like you want 403 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: to and you want to tell us how you feel 404 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: about movies, what could hears be doing differently? Let us know, 405 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: because I think it's an interesting and vital conversation. 406 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the movies. I feel like Nicole Kidman. 407 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: Yes, let's take a quick break and we'll be back 408 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: after this. 409 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 410 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: Up next, Timothy shallow sabotaging his own Oscar candidacy. 411 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: Is this what's happening? 412 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: Timothy Shallowy joined Matthew McConaughey with Wild Pairing for a. 413 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: Variety like this was two chaos. 414 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: Mattey McConaughey very into AI at the moment as well. 415 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 4: So this home it was a mess. They knew they 416 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: were going to get something Shenanigans. 417 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Out, so Challo May joined McConaughey for a variety in 418 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: CNN town Hall at University of Texas in Austin on 419 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: Februar twenty first, where the conversation was this kind of 420 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: meandering thing about the state of the entertainment industry, about 421 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: this state of movie theater attendance coincidentally enough, and just 422 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of like broader entertainment landscape. And then Timothy, during 423 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: a discussion about like challenges that theatrical films are facing, 424 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: said he admired people who publicly champion keeping movie theaters alive, 425 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: but he also felt that if audiences want something like 426 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: you know, Barbie and Oppenheimer, which he kind of cited, 427 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: they'll show up for it. And he then said, because 428 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: that's like one of the most crazy press like WB 429 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: winning awards for marketing, like it was not fully organic, 430 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Like that was yes, you know. 431 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: So he then said. 432 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: That he didn't want to end up working in specific 433 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: I think he meant to say, like forms, This is 434 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: what I think he was trying to say. But this 435 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: is what he said, Okay, I I think he was 436 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: trying to say, I'm I'm not I didn't gravitate towards 437 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: forms of artistic expression that just naturally don't have a 438 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: big audience. 439 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: I think that's what he was trying to say. 440 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: But what he said was that he didn't want to 441 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: end up working in ballet or opera quote things where 442 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though it's 443 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: like no one cares about this anymore. He immediately added 444 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: as Matthew McConaughey made a face that was like you 445 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: just stepped in it, buddy, quote all respect to the ballet. 446 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: Opera people out there. 447 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: And and then he was like, oh, why did I 448 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: like just randomly like you know, doing some hits for 449 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: no reason. The reason that this popped off so badly, 450 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: there's really multiple things. One like we're in a time 451 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 4: when all law is not being funded and it is struggling. 452 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 4: So it seems kind of shady when you're like engaged 453 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 4: or almost engaged to a billionaire become a patron. 454 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: Of the arts, my guy. 455 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 4: But the real issue was that he had just had 456 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: Misty Copeland, one of the most famous ballerinas in the 457 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 4: world from Sam Pedro by the way, uh come and advertisement, 458 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: you know, Marty supreme with his stream big jacket. And 459 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: not only that his mother was a ballerina, his sister 460 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: was a ballerina, and his grandma was a ballerina, and 461 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: all three of them are really the reason that he 462 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: was able to go to the famous Lagadia School and 463 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 4: later Juilliard. So like this man is like many men. 464 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: The op of his family is the women in his family. 465 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: I think really it was just badly put across. But 466 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: that is the problem with. 467 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: His whole awards campaign post Christmas. 468 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: Here's free Christmas pret good point. 469 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: We were big fans of Timmy Shaller may press campaign. 470 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: You may a good point, which is that the problem 471 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: with this comment is both that it was expressed poorly, 472 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: like there's a way to say this that is just 473 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: your kind of noting that. 474 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 5: There the arts are in trouble, right without taking a 475 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: shit to keep doing he did randomly just but but 476 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: the real issue I think as well, and why this 477 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 5: has gained so much traction, is it plays into a 478 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 5: prior narrative that he had helped create by his kind 479 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: of I'm the most authentic, least programmed star who is 480 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: up for an award this season kind of campaign. 481 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: It's just, hey, it's Timmy, just like shooting from the. 482 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: Cuff and I'm the real guy, and I'm like gonna 483 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: tell you I want it really bad and I'm gonna 484 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: tell you all about it. 485 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: And we had talked about this before. 486 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: He had kind of been rubbing up against kind of 487 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: annoying folks with that with the shick, and had made 488 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: a few missteps, but nothing that really gained traction. But 489 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: people had been talking about, oh, I don't know, like that, 490 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: is that really the way that you're gonna, you know, 491 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: garner a successful awards campaign? And then this happens and 492 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: it just absolutely underlines all of the concerns from previously 493 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: and now you exactly the London Royal Ballet and Opera 494 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: wing in and the Men Opera wing and a Tocha 495 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: cat coming in it will be that it's on the view. 496 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. And also as well, like he ended up in 497 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: a situation where like the ballet community was like, oh shit, 498 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: well we don't usually get shine like this, so all 499 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: of us are making our discount codes like Schalomagne, you 500 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: get twenty percent off. 501 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: So it was it was he He also went. 502 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: For like an very old art form, so it made 503 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: people very easily go, well, Oscar's been around for five thousand. 504 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: I mean, Oprah's been around for five thousand years. Ballet 505 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: has been around for four hundred, Like, chill out, we'll 506 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: still be here. I personally am happy simply because I 507 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: had seen this coming. When I was at the Critics' 508 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: Choice Awards. When he got up and he won Best 509 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: Actor over Michael B. Jordan, there was shock in the room, 510 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: but some people were really excited to see him do 511 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: the speech. He flopped the speech. He did not have 512 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: the grand jor, he did not have the story. And 513 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: I felt like in the oscars we know with Demi 514 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: Moore last year and stuff like with a Substance, they 515 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: love a story, they love a narrative, and I think 516 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 4: Timmy's narrative is now guy who's kind of out of 517 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 4: touch and I don't really know what's going on, and 518 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: I don't respect my own family, so I do this tough. 519 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: This is setting us up for a sweep for City, 520 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 3: which I am. 521 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: I mean for the narrative, is stuff tend to be 522 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: fair to Timmy like him over Michael B. Jordan is 523 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: not crazy. 524 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: No no, no, it's not especially it's Michael B. Jordan is 525 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: the underdog. 526 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: I would even say that just in terms of like 527 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: people in the City film. Yeah, there are performances that 528 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: I liked better than Michael B. Jordan just so it's 529 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: not it's not crazy, but I completely agree. It's the 530 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: way he's carrying. It's it's several things together, and you 531 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: can kind of sense maybe Tim's frustration that he's not 532 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: the front runner. Like you know, there seems to be 533 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: a just kind of general consensus feeling like, hey, this 534 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: young guy is going to have lots of bites at 535 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: the apples, so like, let's yeah, spreads around. 536 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: I saw a great tweet like lots at some point 537 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 4: during the season, not the person tweeted this where I 538 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 4: was basically just like he saw Mikey Madison win an 539 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 4: oscar last year at twenty five, and it made him 540 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: go crazy because like he's been, like he's been, this 541 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: is his third nomination. I think he really thought he 542 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: was gonna get it, you know, And and he is 543 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: a great performer. 544 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: But at the same time, again, obviously. 545 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: With the issues now coming out around Josh Safty and 546 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: the reason that him and Benny came apart, and the 547 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: allegations on set about underage people working on the sets 548 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: and stuff, it's not a good narrative. 549 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: And I think that unfortunately, while we. 550 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: Were cheering on Timmy as kind of this Jurassic Park 551 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: level Batman eighty nine level Presstal pre Christmas, I think 552 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: if they had been a little bit smart, just a little. 553 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Bit of a little bit of shaping a little bit 554 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: from the team exactly. 555 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: And also I do think that an un knowable part 556 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: of this is like we are currently in a massive 557 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: wealth transition between poor people and rich people again kind 558 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: of like in a tudor esque like Christmas Carol style situation. 559 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: With like the wealth gap. 560 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: And I think that the Oscars and Timothy Shallomey could 561 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: never have known that, like for him being with a 562 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: Kardashian wasn't necessarily going to be the same step up 563 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: that it is seen as for other people who end 564 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 4: up with Kardashians, though I would arguably say there is 565 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: a Kardashian curse if you date a. 566 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: Kardashian, but that is hit neither here nor there. 567 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: I do not think they realize that, like right now, 568 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: the Kardashians are like this beacon of super wealthiness and 569 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: that does not add like an authenticity. 570 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: He didn't rap in a lyric that his girlfriend is 571 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: a billionaire. I mean, listen, I think you make a 572 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: good point, which is that it's not kind of one thing. 573 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: It's like all the things stake exactly. And it feels 574 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: as if now this story is taken on a critical 575 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: map when the view is talking about you, oh you've 576 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: reached a critical mass of like negative curatings exactly. 577 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: And also as well the story of Marty Supreme, the 578 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: narrative around it, with all this contrasting stuff, it's no 579 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 4: longer this like you can do anything great success. Whereas 580 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: as we've seen with the more European like the Bathters 581 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 4: and the more specific Guild awards, the movement and momentum 582 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 4: has really moved to Sinners. 583 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: Which I have to say rare Shower Devy and also 584 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: like rare shout out to the. 585 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: Academy because they really change the language of the conversation. 586 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: Whenson has got that sixteen nominations, which puts it up 587 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 4: with the most nominations of all time, and there is 588 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 4: now talk of Ryan becoming the first director to ever win, 589 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: the first black director to ever win Best Director. We've 590 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: obviously had black direstors win Best Picture, like Steve McQuinn, 591 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: but the story and the narrative around it, which is 592 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: a big part of the Oscars, a big part of FYC. 593 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: It's the same reason that while I was sure that 594 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: Golden was going to win Best Song, and I do 595 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: still think it is the front runner. I also saw 596 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: that the stage show that they are putting together at 597 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: the Oscars for Miles Catence I Lied to You is 598 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: essentially using all of the different people who were in 599 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: the musical scene that moved everyone so much, so they 600 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 4: are gonna have Shaboozi, They're gonna have Brittany, and that 601 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna kind of recreate that sequence. 602 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: So that to me. 603 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 4: Also says that that is now a front runner. So 604 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 4: I think we could see usin a sweep. We could 605 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: also see some totally random things happen. I remember the 606 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: year after Chadwick Boseman died, when everyone assumed that he 607 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 4: would win Best Lead to the point where they left it, 608 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: and they made Best Lead Male the main last category, 609 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: and Anthony Hopkins won, and he was so sure he 610 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: would have win, he didn't even show up. 611 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: So it was like, you can never really know. 612 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: But I do think that these comments came out around 613 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: two or three days before Oscar voting finished, So I 614 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: do think Timmy probably did himself some damage. Yeah, I mean, 615 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: just a bit better timing, bib better timing. 616 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: And finally, there is a single Waane news that I love. 617 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: There is a Single White Female remake in the work 618 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: Sony Pictures. Three thousand Pictures has hired Sarah de Lap 619 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: to write the script for Single Female remake of the 620 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two thriller Single White Female, which is starring 621 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Jennifer Jason Lee. 622 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: Really spooky, very much gary and depressing movie. 623 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: About obsession and wanting what somebody else has and doing 624 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: anything to get it, and is a quite creepy and 625 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: film that feels kind of ahead of its time in 626 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. 627 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: Definitely anyway being remade. 628 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: With Jenna Ortega and Taylor Russell attached to star. Obviously, 629 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: this is another one of those that there's nothing really 630 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: to talk about yet, they don't even have a script. 631 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: But the original movie is again really feels as relevant 632 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: today as almost ever. 633 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: It's also incredibly formative because it is essentially the baseline 634 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: for pretty much any made for TV movie that you 635 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 4: see a lifetime movie. This notion of like somebody, it's 636 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: almost like a it's a domestic thriller about somebody coming 637 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: in and taking over your house, but not in the 638 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: way of a horror movie where there's a whole invasion, 639 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: but in the way of this kind of really insidious 640 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: like what if they made everyone else in your life 641 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 4: hate you and we're able to replace you. 642 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's a It's a story about a 643 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: parasocial relationship that happens in physical life. Bridget Fonda and 644 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: Jennifer Jason. Bridget Fonda plays a woman who is looking 645 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: for a roommate. Jennifer Jason Lee answers the SWF seeks 646 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: same article in the local weekly, and moves in and 647 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: everything seems okay, but then she just steadily begins to 648 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: take on aspects of bridget Fonda's characters life and personality 649 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: and starts liking the same things in the same way, 650 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: and then maybe like liking her boyfriend in the same way, 651 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: and it just. 652 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: Spirals from yeah, really great one super produce a common 653 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 4: ass like, is it like an eroic thriller? 654 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: Is sexy movie? 655 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: I always placed it in that space like basic instinct, 656 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: like fatal attraction, But when you watch it, it's actually 657 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: way more like bleak and depressing. I think that is 658 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: a psychosexual element, but it's not like a fun erotic romp. 659 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 4: I also love like Taylor Russell's so incredible. Obviously big 660 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 4: Jenna Otaga fan of her acting. Hopefully she's not trying 661 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: to rewrite this one. I will say, Yeah, I'm very 662 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: interested in this, guys, if you want a really fun update. Actually, 663 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 4: they did a really incredible lifetime spin on this, which 664 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: is the single black female series. They were really crazy. 665 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: There's three of them now and those are really fun. 666 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm interested in this. 667 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 4: Also Sarah de Lapote Bodies Bodies, Bodies, which I absolutely loved, 668 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: So I think a little bit of that humor, a 669 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 4: little bit of that bite. And also Jason, like you said, 670 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 4: I do think that you probably tapped into that parasocial relationship. 671 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: It might be that we see them in the as 672 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: a roommates, but we could end up in more of 673 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: a kind of Edith Goes West type situation where we 674 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: do have more of a parasocial thing, more. 675 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: Of an influencer thing. 676 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, this is all talent and I'm 677 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: very interested. I hope this one gets off the ground. 678 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: On next week's episodes of Extra Vision, we are doing 679 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: a look ahead to spring television. 680 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 2: And that's it for news. 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