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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's Me Your Man, MG, Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: Socially distancing and masking when and where possible, and Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Campus starting to draw to a close. We have gone

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Speaker 1: through six divisions, so you can do the math eight

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Speaker 1: minus six. That leaves too. So we've got one today

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Speaker 1: and we will wrap it up on Thursday. Big thanks

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Speaker 1: to all the guests who have come through and helped

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Speaker 1: me out with this project so far this offseason. We

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Speaker 1: have two more that I'm very excited to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: I say that every time, but I meet it every time,

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Speaker 1: Like every time. I have two guests that I'm very

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Speaker 1: in just a bit as we talk about the NFC

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Speaker 1: South today. But before I do that, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to my faithful producer seenor Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murph,

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Speaker 1: what's new where you are? Uh? This weekend I went

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Speaker 1: up to Big Bear or east to Bibbear rather just

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Speaker 1: you know, a skate get on the wilderness, but unfortunately

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Speaker 1: did not see any bears. So I feel like it

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Speaker 1: was kind of appoint you know what I've been the

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Speaker 1: Big Bear multiple times. I have never seen a bear.

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Speaker 1: I have stayed in a small town next to Big

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Speaker 1: Bear called fawns skin, and I didn't see any fawns

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Speaker 1: or their skins. Um So I feel like I've been

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Speaker 1: sold a bill of goods everything. It sounds like a

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Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against Big That's a really good point too,

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Speaker 1: that so many signs say like deer crossing, No dear

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Speaker 1: is he? The only thing I did see were a

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Speaker 1: ton of chipmunks, just the massive amount all over. That's

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Speaker 1: it should be called like big Chipmunk instead of Big Bear.

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Speaker 1: But probably for better or for worse, I'm safe, So

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Speaker 1: I guess the good thing. I was gonna make a

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Speaker 1: Dave Seville joke, but I feel like only five people

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Speaker 1: would actually get it. So that's all right, It's all right.

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Speaker 1: It's probably for the best that I left it alone.

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Speaker 1: Um So that brings me to my two guests. You

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Speaker 1: heard his voice already. You know him from Rhodo World. Uh,

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Speaker 1: guy who does great work. There, A guy that I

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Speaker 1: got to meet a couple of years ago in Canton,

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Speaker 1: a King's class. I think that was the first time

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Speaker 1: we actually met in person. Uh and uh Part of

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Speaker 1: part of the fun of reading the Rootal World blurbs

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Speaker 1: is to figure out whether or not this guy wrote them.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know him as Rhodo Pat on Twitter. It's

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Speaker 1: Pat Doherty who was rocking it pretty sweet. For those

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Speaker 1: of you watching the video clips, why rocking a pretty

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Speaker 1: sweet quarantine? Look right now? Yeah, Well, before we started taping,

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Speaker 1: I thanked Marcus for not conducting a pre screening if

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Speaker 1: I was still keeping up a personal grooming uh during

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Speaker 1: the quarantine because uh, I've not shaved, I've not cut

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Speaker 1: my hair, and quite my wife dumped like a load

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Speaker 1: she had about the beard. Um, so that might be

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Speaker 1: going soon. But yeah, I try to keep up at

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Speaker 1: the trimming. But let me tell you, if you're new

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Speaker 1: to beard life, it's a lot of work. Yeah, someone

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Speaker 1: it won't get very long, you know if I wanted

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Speaker 1: I've got something to work with at least. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the world's best me or not any

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Speaker 1: I've been blessed, and i'd have to be to net

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Speaker 1: be forced to shave a lot. So that's um. My

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Speaker 1: other guest again, another guy that I met in person

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Speaker 1: the King's Classic and Canton. You know him from CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: who is kind of enough. I know he has a

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Speaker 1: super busy schedule and also he's here to keep me

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Speaker 1: mock draft as well, so he is going to keep

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Speaker 1: us streamlined and moving. It is Dave Richard, Dave, thanks

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Speaker 1: for jumping in with us, man, how are you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good luck with me keeping you on task, because, especially

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Speaker 1: with pat An, we're gonna end up on some pretty

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Speaker 1: crazy tangents. I like he reminds me of a young

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Speaker 1: are going to go onto tangents, let's just start. Let's

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Speaker 1: those who have been listening, you know how this works.

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Speaker 1: We go through the four teams in the division. We

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Speaker 1: to wrap this thing up. So let's start in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons. Uh. You know this is a

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Speaker 1: team that is expected to be another offensive minded squad.

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Speaker 1: They add a notable piece in Todd Gurley, and so, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I will start with you. I mean, obviously this is

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Speaker 1: not the same player we were seeing early in his

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Speaker 1: ceiling for Todd Gurley this year in Atlanta? Would it

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Speaker 1: be weird if I told you that he could potentially

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Speaker 1: last year. And I'm not drafting him to do that, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: But the yardage was bad, but the touch ons were scene.

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Speaker 1: I think the touchdown potential for Todd Gurley in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: This is one of the rare situations in the NFL

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Speaker 1: bring back to Vonte Freeman. Who knows. They're not going

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Speaker 1: this is one thing Girly can still do really well,

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna have a lot of breakaway runs. That

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Speaker 1: And if they do that, then his PPR value goes up.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think everybody's kind of comfortable with

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Speaker 1: shock last year that the Rams didn't use him as

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Speaker 1: hoping that the Falcons used him in that capacity and

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Speaker 1: on Todd Gurley? Sure, And as receiving skills, where do

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Speaker 1: like that was Todd Gurley last year unfortunately, and even

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Speaker 1: offseason is a good thing for him, you know, no

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Speaker 1: And you know the fact that the Rams cut him

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Speaker 1: at all, Like they just gave up on Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: and the player. I mean, the red flags obviously didn't

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Speaker 1: his ceiling. It's wild. Um, Tudd Gurley just turned twenty

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Speaker 1: he's just he's just twenty six years old. I mean

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Speaker 1: he I've seen Todd Gurley play football in the city

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Speaker 1: you who'd you rather, Julio Jones Calvin Ridley. I know

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Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, but you know, if

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Speaker 1: All right, Um? Okay, So then Dave, let's stay with you,

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing he's gonna do exactly that.

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Speaker 1: the guy that I sort of liked last year and

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Speaker 1: it didn't work out the way I would have thought.

427
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's catch rate. I know, ever, everybody's sort

428
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: of points too, because it was pretty miserable. I also

429
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 1: pointed the fact that he had some pretty mediocre at

430
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks throwing to him. Um, does he get better in?

431
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 1: I know we all love DJ Moore? Does Curtis Samuel

432
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: get better in? So let's think about what this offense

433
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,239
Speaker 1: should look like if if we're basing it off of

434
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: what L s u was in because that's the offensive

435
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: coordinator that they're bringing into Carolina, is the guy that

436
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: ran that passing game. It means a lot of quick passing.

437
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna ask their wide receivers to make plays after

438
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,479
Speaker 1: the catch. Very west coasty, but it's gonna be done

439
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: at a quick pace and really rely on Teddy Bridgewater strength,

440
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: which is short area accuracy, and Samuels should be good

441
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: for that. I almost wonder. I almost wonder Marcus if

442
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 1: he was miscast last year in Carolina as a deep

443
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Speaker 1: ball receiver because we thought he was a great deep

444
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: ball receiver and he couldn't catch any deep balls and

445
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot of that had to do with Kyle Allen

446
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: just straight up missing him, But all of his sunchdowns

447
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: were in the red zone, and all d J. Moore

448
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: stuchshowns that felt like were these deep touchdowns, the catch

449
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: and run plays. And that's what I think they're gonna

450
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Speaker 1: try and do with all of their past casters, not

451
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: just Samuel and Moore, not just Robbie, but also McCaffrey.

452
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why I think McCaffrey

453
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: is still a safe bet is because he's gonna get

454
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the same type of receptions as these

455
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: other past catchers. Samuel's gonna go the last, the longest.

456
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: On draft Day, you're gonna see DJ go in the

457
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: first four rounds, maybe even the first two rounds, depending

458
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 1: on who you're drafting with him, what the scoring is,

459
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson, someone will take a flyer in him late

460
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 1: and then everybody. No one wants Curtis Samuel. They're all

461
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: nervous about him. But as far as as a shifty

462
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: receiver who can make a play after the catch, I

463
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: mean when they when they drafted him, they were saying

464
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: he's he's a version kind of like Christian McCaffrey because

465
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: he's a dual threat guy and he's got that shiftiness

466
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: to his game. He could absolutely come away with fifty

467
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: receptions this year and turn that into you know, um,

468
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: maybe around seven hundred yards three or four touchdowns. I

469
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna break out and you know, make

470
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Speaker 1: everybody forget about d J. Moore. But if you're looking

471
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Speaker 1: for a late down bench receiver, I think Curtis Samuel

472
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: can do it, and you probably would be happy with

473
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Speaker 1: him on your bench in the deeper league. You know, Samuel,

474
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Speaker 1: he totally was probably miscast as the deep ball receiven

475
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Speaker 1: He's just more of a slasher like almost like Percy

476
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Harvin type, And yeah, he can be utilized probably more

477
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: to Yeah, he's someone who kind of needs touches manufactured

478
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: for him, and this is an offensive will manufacture those

479
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of touches, and he absolutely could be better. Yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: I mean I really thought. I mean, you know, as

481
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Speaker 1: you mentioned David, he was drafted. He was you know,

482
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Speaker 1: kind of build as this Swiss army knife sort of

483
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: guy that they could use as a runner and a receiver. Uh,

484
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: and then they found out they had a really good

485
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: runner slash receiver and Christian McCaffrey, and it's sort of like, hey, thanks,

486
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: thanks for coming, Curtis Samuel. What we'll figure out another

487
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: another place for you to sit right now, Marcus, they

488
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: had the chance to trade him and they didn't do it. Yeah,

489
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: two amazing compilers in d J. Moore and Christian McCaffrey.

490
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: So it's very hard. But I also think it says

491
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: something that they are still sort of committed to him too, right,

492
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Speaker 1: I mean like that that they still want to find

493
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: a role for I mean, maybe it doesn't happen, maybe

494
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: after this year they say all right, this just isn't

495
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: working and they move on from him in some way.

496
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: But the fact that they're still sort of committed to

497
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel right now suggests that they want to find

498
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: a role for him in this offense. So I guess

499
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: if there's anything that's that's sort of encouraging. Um, Pat,

500
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: what's the ceiling for Teddy Bridgewater? You know, I know

501
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: we all love the story. We all want to see

502
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: him come back from injury and kind of build himself

503
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: back into a starting quarterback. But I mean for our

504
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: fantasy purposes, us being selfish, Uh, what what is his ceiling.

505
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the ceiling is probably higher than all of

506
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: us are willing to admit to ourselves. Like I wrote down, Still,

507
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I still think his realistic ceiling is matchup based streamer.

508
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, when you have Joe Brady and you,

509
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: when you have this stable of weapons, I mean, maybe

510
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: we should be thinking maybe he really could be a

511
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: QB one, Like he is someone you know who is

512
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: basically free in drafts that you can add as like

513
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: a final pick you can add with one of your

514
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: first waiver wire moves, and to see how the first

515
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: few games developed, because I mean, is a chance that

516
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: he just blows expectations out of the water um with

517
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: his setup because he is being set up for success.

518
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, realistically, I still say matchup based streamer,

519
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: but one of the best matchup based streamers in fantasy

520
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: football because he's gonna get good matchups. There's gonna be

521
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: shootouts because how bad the Panthers defense is. And yet

522
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean just has such an explosive group of weapons.

523
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Speaker 1: So realistically, I'm not willing to go be on matchup

524
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Speaker 1: a streamer, But part of me wonders, you have the

525
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: whole industry if we're not thinking big enough with Teddy Bridgewater,

526
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: he uh. I think he could be like the Blake

527
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Wardles of you remember Bordles Big Year, where like had

528
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: so many garbage time points Eli Manning special there it

529
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: is perfect. I I think that Teddy could do that.

530
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Speaker 1: I don't see Carolina being like even a seven and

531
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: nine team. I think their defense is just too young

532
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: and raw to to really keep them in games. And

533
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Speaker 1: it just means a lot of passing. And I just

534
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: really believe that this quick passing scheme they're gonna do

535
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: will benefit Bridgewater. I think he's a great fit for it,

536
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: high completion rate, probably not exactly a a high depth

537
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: of throw guy, but certainly with the receivers that he has,

538
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: and we outlined Samuel in the North, TJ. Morrison, Robby

539
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: Anderson's another guy that really um didn't pop off when

540
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: he had opportunities. He was beating guys deep downfield and

541
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: was overthrown and whatnot. In New York. He's another factor

542
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: that can help Teddy Bridgewater. Would it surprise me if

543
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: he ended the year with four thousand passing yards and

544
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns. That's kind of where Aaron Rodgers has

545
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: been the past couple of years and Rogers finished nicely

546
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: as a fantasy quarterback. I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm

547
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: obviously not going to draft Teddy Bridgewater the birth kinds

548
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: of numbers, but he had another quarterback that you can

549
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: wait on on draft day. You can pair him with

550
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: another late round guy from Roethlisberger to Daniel Jones and

551
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: Jared Goff to Cam Newton. You get Teddy literally with

552
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: your third to last pick if you want on him.

553
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: And uh, and you just you play the matchups, and

554
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: I believe he's got a pretty good matchup Week one

555
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: that you could take advantage of. So this this, this

556
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: is definitely a chance for Teddy Bridgewater to to come

557
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: through for fantasy managers who are value shopping. All right, Uh,

558
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: let's let's switch over to the Saints now. And I mean, Dave,

559
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you tend to just go running back

560
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: in the first round, so it feels like this is

561
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: a good question for you. How high is too high

562
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: for Michael Thomas in a draft if it's non PPR.

563
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't even think he's really worth the first round pick.

564
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: You can take him at the swing if you want um,

565
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: but I think his best asset is the volume and

566
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: the high catch rate, the efficiency um and and that's

567
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: really about it. Like he's a good he's a very

568
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: good receiver. I don't mean to talk poorly about him,

569
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: but I know that the wide receiver position is insanely

570
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: deep this year, and I want to be able to

571
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: cash in on some value there and not spend that

572
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: first round pick on a wide receiver when I can

573
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: get a running back. That's the position that's the thin

574
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: this year. So I'm playing the supply and demand game

575
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: with my first round choice. And that's why Michael Thomas

576
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: won't be my pick in most leagues in the first round.

577
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: But there's an exception in full PPR because of what

578
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: I just laid out, the fact that he catches so

579
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: many passes, and I mean you can set your watch

580
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: two hundred receptions this year. To me, I would take

581
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: him seventh. And one guy I love this year is

582
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders. I think he's got a chance for a

583
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: monster year. I can't quite pull the trigger on Sanders

584
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: over Michael Thomas because I think Michael Thomas it's just

585
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: safer to get a hundred catches, fifteen under yards, eight

586
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: touchdowns something like that, and I think Michael Miles Sanders

587
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: ceiling is is I mean, his ceiling is really high.

588
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: But a projection that you could buy into for Sanders

589
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: is right around there with fewer receptions. So Thomas to

590
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: me settles in at seven in full PPR. That makes

591
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: me feel better because Jake Seeley, I'm in your flex leagues. Uh.

592
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: And I took I took Michael Thomas at eight, I

593
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: mean when seven running backs, and then I was on

594
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: the board at eight and Michael Thomas was there and

595
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I guess I will um right.

596
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: He's he's He is absolutely the safe play. If you're

597
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: looking at the backs in round one and you go, well,

598
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about Clyde Edwards, Hilaire and Miles Sanders.

599
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: You know the Eagles love the RBBC. That narrative is

600
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: played out already, and you don't love Mixing or Drake

601
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: or Eckla or whatever. He's the safe play, he said, he's.

602
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: It's not a bad way to start your team. Marcus.

603
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: That's a good back. By the way, I was very

604
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: much on the I'm worried that the Eagles are gonna

605
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: bring somebody else in for Miles Sanders. But the further

606
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: along we get into this thing and they haven't move,

607
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: um makes me feel It makes me feel better about it. Like,

608
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, like a month ago, I was still on

609
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: on this thing that you know that the Eagles are

610
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna sign somebody they're gonna bring in like Devonte Free minute,

611
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna wreck our lives. But here we are in

612
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: early August and nothing has happened yet, so you know,

613
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: and look, this is like a horror movie. Right when

614
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: you get comfortable, that's when the jump scare comes in.

615
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: So like just as I get comfortable enough to draft

616
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: Miles standards early, that's when you know Doug Peterson makes

617
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: a move and the running back that I was worried

618
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: about them getting signed in Seattle. I think I'll say

619
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: this real quick on Michael Tom I mean full PPR.

620
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't do this, but I think you

621
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: can make a genuine argument for him as high as

622
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: number three overall behind CMC and s Kwon Barkley because

623
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of Christian McCaffrey, like this is not like a

624
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: normal floor, Like he is not like a normal compiler,

625
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: He's not like a normal like his floor at this point.

626
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: It's essentially a hundred and twenty catches and like like

627
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen. And like if you can basically

628
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: bank a hundred and twenty catches and a point per

629
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: reception league, I mean, that is something you should feel

630
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: pretty great about. And you know, if you if you

631
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: were worried like Zeke Elliott is losing explosiveness, if you're

632
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: worried like Dalvin Cook can't stay healthy fully for sixteen games,

633
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't laugh at anyone taking Michael Thomas the

634
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: number three overall and PPR No, I've seen it plenty, Um,

635
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: I've seen it plenty of this this offseason. Okay, so

636
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: then you talk about this or being once twenty Emmanuel

637
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: Sanders is now a Saint Pat. I mean, how does

638
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: he fit into this? Does? I can't think he really

639
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: hurts Michael Thomas a whole lot, but he's got to

640
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: take from somebody. I mean, where where does he slot

641
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: in this whole offense? I guess maybe he just doesn't

642
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: really take from somewhere and they just can't really get

643
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: like a great role from me in an offense that

644
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: you know hasn't really utilized, even like a number two receiver,

645
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: and it's like such a narrow offense with Michael Thomas

646
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: and Kamara and Jared Cook, and I think, if anything,

647
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: I'll probably hurt Jared Cook the most, but it's just

648
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: not you know, they don't need to force the issue

649
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Sanders. Uh, two of the biggest, you know,

650
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: one of the best receivers, one of the biggest, big

651
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: play threats as the pass catching running back. And Alvin Kamara,

652
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, a huge playmaker up the seam, and Jared Cook.

653
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I do think it hurts Jared Cook's volume, but Emmanuel

654
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: to like doing extraordinary things for his age, But injuries

655
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: are becoming a concern, like came back like shocking like

656
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: quickly from the torn Achilles, you know, then played a

657
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: lot of last year like banged up and isn't quite

658
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: his normal self. And I don't think he hurts Michael

659
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Thomas or probably even Alvicamara. I do think he hurts anyone.

660
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: It's definitely Jared Cook and then kind of fighting for

661
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: those third looks. Um. Yeah, I don't have great fantasy

662
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: expectations from Anga Sanders despite being like basically a straight

663
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: up warrior, like someone his age to still be as

664
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: good as he is and the injuries he's played through.

665
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, low fantasy expectations. And I don't think a

666
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: drain on Michael Thomas. Yeah, I mean Michael Thomas is

667
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna get his I think that's I think. I think

668
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing. And the question is what what the

669
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: Sanders getting. I think you're right, Um, this is always

670
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the thing with Saints wide receivers. I mean, for all

671
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: those years you knew Drew Brees was going to be

672
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: a top five, maybe even a top three quarterback, but

673
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to draft a Saints receiver. There

674
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Graham and then you know, was it Defrey Henderson?

675
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Was it? I mean, you could just take your pick.

676
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: You just never know he's gonna be he could mean,

677
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Amando Sanders isn't totally miscast as like a ted Yain

678
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: like deep ball specialists. I mean he's not. It's not

679
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: traditionally been his but he can do that and so

680
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: like he can still be like maybe a role player

681
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: even down the field, even though we think of him

682
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: as more like an underneath guy. Yeah, it's just very

683
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: uncertain to what his role will actually be. A man,

684
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: he almost did it in the Super Bowl to win

685
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: it for the forty Niners exactly. Jimmy man Forte best

686
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: player in the NFL though, um uh as a Niner fan?

687
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: If het or forty one, would we have another championship? Like,

688
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, um anyway? Uh dave I know this

689
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: year obviously, with COVID nineteen and and everybody trying to

690
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: figure out roster construction and that sort of thing, I

691
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: feel like we've talked a lot more about, you know,

692
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: the guys that were quote unquote handcuffs before having extra value.

693
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Lettavius Murray is a guy that is not only a

694
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: great handcuff to me, but he's a guy that does

695
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: actually have some standalone value. Does that value go up

696
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: in a year where you just never know which player

697
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: is going to get hit with this virus and might

698
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: have to sit out? I feel like that that works

699
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: in Murray's favor. I think got a lot of drafts.

700
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing a backup running back power rankings for

701
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, Like, I mean, this is where the content

702
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: is going, you know, this is what everybody wants is

703
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: a list of all the backup running backs. Lettavius is

704
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: third on the list, behind Madison in Minnesota and Tony

705
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Pollard and Dallas, because if he does get that opportunity,

706
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: and we saw it last year, he's great. He's really great.

707
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: And if I'm spending a first round pick on on

708
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: a running back who I'm expecting big things from and

709
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: there's a running back behind him who could do almost

710
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: as well, I'm going to go and get that guy.

711
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, absolutely, Lottavius Murray is that guy for people

712
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: at draft Kumara Now, is he Is he a standalone

713
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: guy in that you could use him as a flex

714
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: during a bye week? Yeah, you probably could, But otherwise

715
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: you're just you're drafting him and you're crossing your fingers

716
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: for Alvin Kamara to win Powerball or get lost in

717
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: the French Quarter or something like that where he misses

718
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: time and then Lettavias Murray ends up being a big

719
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: time player for the Saints. I don't necessarily see that happening.

720
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: I think as long as Camara is healthy, you're not

721
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna see Lettavias Murray have big numbers. But when he's not,

722
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: let Tavis Murray is gonna be a thing again for fantasy.

723
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: I think he's more for people who want to handcuff

724
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: Camara rather than Um. You know, it's round nine and

725
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, you know, a sleeper running back. I'm

726
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with Tay Murray. I don't think that's the

727
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: that's the movie. Nothing. Nothing like having too many hurricanes

728
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: at Pat O'Brien's on Saturday night. Okay, I thought I

729
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: was the only one years Sunday. Oh man, Um, let's

730
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: get to the Buccaneers too, because I this is one

731
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you, but I want to I

732
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts too, Dame on this one

733
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: shoos your fighter, Ronald Jones or Keyshawn Vaughan. This has

734
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: been This has been the the argument that has launched

735
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: a thousand columns. I feel like this offseason like the

736
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: dam for the draft. I was Keyshaw Vaughn. I'm like

737
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: a third round pick. You know, Ronald Jones does not

738
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: seem like a good for Tom Brady to me, Like,

739
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady will tolerate, you know, Ronald

740
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: Jones is mistakes. Tom Brady's not gonna tolerate Ronald Jones

741
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: whiffing and past protection. But basically since then, like everything

742
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: has gone wrong for Keyshawn Vaughan and basically a lot

743
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: of rookies who aren't like you know, clear day one starters,

744
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: like first second round picks where zero live reps of

745
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: any kind and it doesn't matter like how fundamentally sounded

746
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: play or have zero live reps of any kinds. Keyshawn

747
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: von is set back there, and you know, all the

748
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: coach speak has been about Ronald Jones all like the

749
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: media like scuttle butt has been about Ronald Jones. And

750
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't an amazing year for Ronald Jones

751
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: that year, but he was certainly far far better than

752
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: he was at a rookie. There's some playmaking ability there.

753
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: I do were like the second that like Ronald Jones

754
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: gives up a sack like he's pulled off the field

755
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: forever um. But it's it's gonna be a tough year.

756
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Ronald Keishawman this, how do you how does

757
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: he implement himself in the offense. Basically, it's just a

758
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: very tough summer for Keyshawn Vaughn. And I think that

759
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: the tea leaves are reading Ronald Jones. And I thought

760
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: i'd be in April. I thought I'd be coming on

761
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: podcasts in August and stumping for Keyshaw Bomb. But that's

762
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: just not the case anymore. I'm just glad you're not

763
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: stomping for Lashawn McCoy because then I knew, Um, look,

764
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: I fell into the same trap that Pat did. I

765
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: thought Vaughan was the more interesting guy. But I also

766
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: remember we did weeks and weeks of studying these running

767
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: backs before the draft. Uh, and we talked about Keyshawn

768
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Von for maybe thirty seconds. And at the Senior Bowl

769
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: even Vaughan admitted that, Yeah, when I get the NFL,

770
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have to share. And that's just the

771
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: way it is. And he he strikes me as a

772
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: guy who's a jack of all trades, master of none.

773
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: On my Twitter page at Dave Richard, pinned to the

774
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: top is a story I did on Ronald Jones and

775
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: what he's done this offseason. I talked to his trainer.

776
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: It's a guy named Luke Neil trains Ronald Jones out

777
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: in Arizona. I got answers for what happened into Ronald

778
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: jones rookie year and his second year and what's expected

779
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: this year, what he worked on this offseason. Pat brought

780
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: up the past protection he has worked on past protection

781
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: every day this off season, sometimes twice a day, watching

782
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: film and then implementing it on a practice field with

783
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: the trainer. He's put on more weight last off season.

784
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: He put on twelve pounds and muscles. Clearly it didn't

785
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: affect him because he had a lot of great highlight runs.

786
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Some of them were called back by penalties, but he

787
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: had some great offensive moments last year total over a

788
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: thousand yards on just over two hundred touches in Tampa Bay.

789
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: And now he's added seven more pounds of muscle. He's

790
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: over two pounds. That's typically the weight that Bruce arians

791
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: likes his running backs at. You go back and look

792
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: at David Johnson and Richard men and all these were

793
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: big boys. And you're gonna see video of Ronald Jones

794
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: and training camp. He's a big boy now. But best

795
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: of all, and this is really what's what has sold

796
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: me on Ronald Jones. Guys, he's got his football like

797
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: you up, He's mentally prepared, he's focused, and he's determined

798
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: to prove that everything that happened to him his rookie

799
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: or when he wasn't prepared is just a flash, and

800
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: that he's going to go out now and be the best.

801
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know about Bell Cow, but the

802
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: best running back he can be where he can at

803
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: least work the running downs for Tampa Bay. I think

804
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: he can handle short yardage and goal line for Tampa Bay.

805
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: All six of his touchdowns last year came from between

806
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: four and eight yards, so nothing right at the goal line,

807
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: but nothing too far away. So he basically had to

808
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: do something every play, follow a block, make a move,

809
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: barrel through a defender to score the touchdown. This is

810
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: where he's at right now, is ready to take that

811
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: next step, and I see him as a number two

812
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: running back in fantasy. I know people are gonna look

813
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: at what he did last year. They're gonna focus on

814
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: him getting bench for the bad pass pro. They're gonna

815
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: look at the Shaw McCoy and they're gonna think, oh,

816
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: le Sean McCoy, he still could be good. He was inactive.

817
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: He was terrible Apple last year. And I think, honestly,

818
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I think Lea Shaw McCoy was signed a because Key

819
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: Shawn Van went on the COVID list and we just

820
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: don't know how long he's gonna be out for. And

821
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: B I think he's there to push Dario Goomba walle.

822
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: So maybe that hurts Ronald Jones as far as being

823
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: a pass catcher in this offense, being a three down

824
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: guy and being that bell cow. Maybe that doesn't happen.

825
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: But if I had to put numbers on Ronald Jones

826
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: this year, I would take the over on twelve total

827
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: yards and seven downs, and you can get this guy

828
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: in round six. Sometimes round seven. People look at me

829
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy for saying that, But I really believe

830
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: he can take that next step. Not a huge step.

831
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make that leap and and be a

832
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: first round pick in Fantasy next year, but he can

833
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: be someone that gives you great value on draft day.

834
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones. Read the article that I've got on Twitter.

835
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: It's on sagest Sports, but you can find the link

836
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter and then go and draft him after six

837
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: overall on draft day. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Well,

838
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: there are two things you said in there that really

839
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: that I think are really key. One the past perception thing,

840
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: obviously is a big deal. The other thing is just

841
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: sort of the mental aspect of the game, because I

842
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: think that was the big knock on him during his

843
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: rookie year that he just wasn't his head wasn't there,

844
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: and that was the reason we didn't see a lot

845
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: of him. When we did see him, he just looked

846
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: sort of lost out there. So if he gets yeah,

847
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: exactly of those things in the story, I won't spoil

848
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: it for you, but there are some shocking revelations. Yeah,

849
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: I mean, but I think that that goes a long

850
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: way to I mean, and then the fact that he

851
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: is you know hashtag b s O h L because

852
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: he's put on all this you know, all this weight

853
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, that's just that's just an added bonus,

854
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: um pat with Tom Brady, I would ask you not

855
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: not can he be a top ten fantasy quarterback at

856
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: the end of the year, because I think we all

857
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, sure, there's a universe in which that

858
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: can happen. Will he actually be a top ten fantasy

859
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: quarterback at the end of the season. I'm afraid to

860
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: say that he will be. I think he's going to

861
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: be the uh yeah, because I you know, the eye

862
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: test for Tom Brady last year was very unforgiving. Um,

863
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: but you know, the advanced metrics PFF still rated him

864
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: as a pretty sent deep ball passer. It was kind

865
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: of the chicken or the egg. Is this tom Brady's

866
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: arm or is it his supporting cast? And pretty compelling

867
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: evidence it was his supporting cast. And you know, even if,

868
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: even if he is noodled at this point, when we

869
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: saw Peyton Manning have great success in his noodle arm

870
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: phase for fears in Denver, and this is just such

871
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: a titanic supporting cast. I mean, he's you know, he's

872
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: the best supporting cast of his career since two thousand seven,

873
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much without debate. And I think he's

874
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: smart enough. I don't mean he was physically diminished last year,

875
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: but I didn't think he was like end of his

876
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: rope physically diminished that. I think he is going to

877
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: figure out and I think yet to me, QB eight

878
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: or nine feels right for Tom Brady. Go back and

879
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: look at his very last game pad the last pass.

880
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: I remember his last pass. Don't look at that. Don't

881
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: look at that. In that game, he uncorked two passes

882
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: that traveled over fifty yards in the air. So don't

883
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: tell me that he's he's got a nood alarm. You're right,

884
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't have one. Um, and he's actually his his

885
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: metrics weren't great, the PFF metrics that you're talking about,

886
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: and not just deep ball stuff but just regular stuff.

887
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: They weren't great, but they were better than Jamis Winston's.

888
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: So they managed to upgrade from like the worst of

889
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: the worst to not quite the worst of the worst

890
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: by going from Wind the Brady. But they also got

891
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: a really good decision maker in Tom Brady and just

892
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: the weapons that he has around him. I don't see

893
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: how he doesn't finishes the top ten quarterback. I do

894
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: think what's going to be different with Brady versus Jamis,

895
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: and I know this is this is going to come

896
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: off as obvious, is the fact that he's going to

897
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: be more efficient. Um. And so that to me makes

898
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: me wonder whether or not he's going to have the

899
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: same number of passing yards. I mean, Jamis had a

900
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: ton of passing yards because Jamis had to have a

901
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: ton of passing yards because he put his team behind

902
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the eight ball so often. UM. I feel like with

903
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: Brady that isn't going to happen. They won't be playing

904
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: from behind as much because you know he's he's not

905
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: going to put his defense in bad situations where they're

906
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: giving up a ton of points and then he's got

907
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: to know throw furiously in the second half. So, um,

908
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the yards numbers are diminished, but also

909
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: that interest. It's Tom Brady throws thirty interceptions this year. Um,

910
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, then we got a story. So it's where

911
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: they basically they practically play different positions like Tom by

912
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: three year old, but like he plays the more like

913
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: new school monitoring game, whereas Jamis is like true old

914
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: school of Brett five. He's just gonna take big and yeah,

915
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna be different, but they're still gonna be fantasy points. Yeah. Um,

916
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: so they have how much interest have you had in

917
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: drafting Grounk if you've had any interest at all in

918
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: drafting Grounk this year? I have had interest in drafting Gronk,

919
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: and I'm drafting him right in that same range that

920
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: we talked about with Hayden Hurst at round nine, round

921
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: ten area. If I need a tight end um and

922
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: it's it's getting late in the draft, I know I

923
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: need to start one. Well, here's Gronk, and I don't

924
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: think ron is gonna be over a thousand yards like

925
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: he was once upon a time in New England. But

926
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: I could see him being a big problem for defenses

927
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: in the red zone. I mean, let's put our three

928
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: heads together. If we're playing Tampa Bay, which guy are

929
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: we going to try and take away first? When the

930
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: Bucks get in the red zone against US? Is it

931
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: gonna be Gronk? Maybe? Is it gonna be Chris Godwin?

932
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Probably not. Is it gonna be Mike Evans? I think

933
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: that's who's gonna end up being. And even if we

934
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: decided to go with gronkle that means Mike Evans is

935
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna get the football, and that's good for Mike Evans,

936
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's gonna happen nearly as often.

937
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: I think Gronk could end up being one of these

938
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: tight ends that we've seen before that doesn't get a

939
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: lot of catches, doesn't get a lot of yards, but

940
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: does get a lot of touchdowns. I could see him

941
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: scoring eight times in fourteen games and being you know,

942
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: he's got the chemistry already with Tom Brady. He might

943
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: have better chemistry with Brady than Brady will have with

944
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: Evans and Godwin. If the first three weeks of the season,

945
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: and so, of course that You've got to expect him

946
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: to lean on Gronk there, and I suspect Gronk will

947
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: be more of a receiver than a blocker. That would

948
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: help him as well. Again, top ten type of fantasy

949
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: tight end. I'm more excited to draft him than Hurst.

950
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm more excited to draft him than Auston Hooper, but

951
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm not as excited to draft him as like Evan Anger,

952
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: Um Hunter, Henry Tyler. I'm taking those guys ahead of him.

953
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: But when it's round nine and round ten and I

954
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: need a tight end, I'm going to go for Gronk. Yeah.

955
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about that that red zone roulette

956
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a defensive coordinator, Um, it just

957
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: feels like you can pick any one of those guys

958
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: and your answer is going to be wrong because there

959
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: are so many options for so Bredy to throw the

960
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: ball to. Um. I mean, yeah, I look, Pat, I

961
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: know Gronk is not going to be the same Gronk

962
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: as they mentioned that that we saw before. But man,

963
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: we lived in a world where last year Jason Witten

964
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: was the tight end to Levin and he just basically

965
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: caught the ball it fell down. So I mean, I

966
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: guess there there is hope that Gronk can be a

967
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: legit tight end one issue, right, And I feel like

968
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: our fine, our most recent memories of Gronk are kind

969
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: of faulty too, because like everyone kind of pictured him

970
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: as like, you know, really like heavily declined, like even

971
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: like zombie Gronk averaged over fifteen yards per catch in

972
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: and it was still a very dangerous red zone threat.

973
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: And he's still I think, well, it's only thirty one.

974
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: Like I don't usually necessarily believe in like the year

975
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: off make someone healthier and like more you know, more

976
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: ready to play. But Thomas, someone who had so much

977
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: mileage on his body, so many injuries, and yeah, I

978
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: would just not be surprised to see close to vintage ground.

979
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I agree with Dave, like I'm still not putting him

980
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: in that top tier, but I'm I'm very comfortable to

981
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: Gronk because like the Titan, like seven to nine Range

982
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: brought with his best life for the year off, right,

983
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he ever the reality shows he was wrestling,

984
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: like we should all have a gap year like Bronk

985
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: if we could. Um, there's just some superlatives for the

986
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: NFC South put this out to both of you. I guess, Pat,

987
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: you can start first? Who will be the top scoring

988
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: fantasy wide receiver out of the NFC South in a

989
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: division that is loaded with top level, elite fantasy wide receivers.

990
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: It is every team has like a true blue wide receiver. One.

991
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna overthink it. It's gonna be Michael Thomas.

992
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Like it just his floor. So I mean maybe Julio

993
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Jones still is the highest ceiling. I mean d J.

994
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Moore maybe the wild card. But like Echael Thomass, floors

995
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: is kind of the separator and I feel like you

996
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: have to bet on that floor. You agree, day, are

997
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: you gonna go go go off off board? Here? I

998
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: think it's a no brainer that it's Emmanuel Sanders. I mean,

999
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: he's it's Michael Thomas. He's got to be it. Um,

1000
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: everybody should be comfortable drafting him. That's the first receiver

1001
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: off the board. All right. Um, So then maybe something

1002
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: that's a little murkier, uh, the top scoring fantasy tight

1003
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: end out of the NFC South. Day you can you

1004
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: can start this one, Okay? So what are my choices are? Cook? Gronk,

1005
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst and and Thomas and Thomas. Yeah, yeah, I'm

1006
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Gronk and I'm not jumping around.

1007
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: I really think that the touchdowns can carry him to

1008
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: the best numbers in the division. Yeah, Gronk's gonna get

1009
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: the most chances to finish at the rim, so to speak,

1010
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: and I believe it will be Gronk. All right, Uh, Pat,

1011
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: who are the biggest Who's the biggest sleeper or sleepers

1012
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: you think coming out of the NFC South this year,

1013
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: This one had kind of a hard time with I

1014
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of settled on whomever, DeVante Freeman or not Divine whoever.

1015
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's backup is. Um. It's just like I said,

1016
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: the true one of the biggest wild cards is Todd

1017
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Gurley's health. And you know, no attention whatsoever being paid

1018
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: to his backups. But uh, I don't know. Maybe Edo

1019
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Smith is the biggest sleeper in the end of the situation,

1020
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: just getting no attention whatsoever, and I feel like it

1021
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: should getting attention. Guys, We've gone an hour into this

1022
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: podcast when we even talked about Matt Ryan once. But

1023
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Matt Ryan is just like,

1024
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean literally, he's he's just so steady. It's just like,

1025
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: what is there to talk about, right, He's a Honda Cinic, Like,

1026
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: hey man, it's not necessarily spectacular, but it gets you

1027
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: to where you need to go. Like you know, I'll

1028
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: say this about Matt Ryan. He was not moving well

1029
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: in the second half the season last year. He tried

1030
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: to play through a high ankle sprain and he looked

1031
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: like like he looked old and slow in the second

1032
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: half the season. But I agree with that. I mean,

1033
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna bounce back and he's gonna be Matt Ryan.

1034
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: So if I can't go with him as a sleep

1035
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: for this year, um, I'll bang the drum a little

1036
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: bit for Ian Thomas and the fact that he's yet

1037
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: another guy that it's a good athletic mass catcher that

1038
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: can make a play after the catch, and that that's

1039
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: what they're looking for in Carolina and the door has

1040
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: been kicked down for him to be the lead guy there.

1041
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: And again, if you're streaming tight ends, that's someone I

1042
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: don't know if it's as good of a matchup now

1043
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: is is it wants figured to be. But I Thomas

1044
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: is someone that you could potentially begin the season with

1045
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: as you're starting tight end. All right. Uh, they have

1046
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: the most overdrafted player or players in the NFC South. Oh. Um.

1047
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: I've seen d J. Moore go in the second round

1048
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: in half PPR leaders and non PPR leagues, and I'm

1049
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: not buying that at all. I think he is a

1050
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: true PPR only special type of guy. I don't know

1051
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: if we can count on him to be a top

1052
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: twelve type of an option in non PPR um so

1053
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: I've seen him get overdrafted. I mean, heyden Hurst is

1054
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: the number five tight end. That might a lot of

1055
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. I do a lot of drafts. People are

1056
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: where I'm in a draft right now where Nicole Hardman

1057
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: went in the first round and Steven Simms went in

1058
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: the second round to the same guy and he wasn't

1059
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: joking around. You know, there's special team's yardage that there's

1060
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: a ball, but I mean, still, that's whack. Um. I

1061
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: think d J. Moore's if it's not a PPR league,

1062
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: I think that that's a little bit of a stretch.

1063
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: All right. Uh, I don't have a great answer for this.

1064
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Like I want to say Calvin Ridley, but I'm not like,

1065
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm not like fading Calvin Ridley. Or anything. But he's

1066
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: just kind of in that wide receiver like fourteen to

1067
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: sixteen range, and you know, again there's a lot of

1068
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: targets freed up. But this is someone who's never had

1069
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: a nine yards season. It's only been two years, but

1070
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: he was going like twenty spots ahead like Robert Woods.

1071
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: And I feel like you're drafting Robert Ridley when you're

1072
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: drafting Calvin Ridley. You're kind of hoping for like a

1073
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: vintage Rams Robert Woods season, and there's just a lot

1074
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: of there's so much upside and that middle tier receiver

1075
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: like in again the DK Metcalf, even like the Terry

1076
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: McLaurin Cortland Sutton DJ Shark that I just I don't

1077
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: feel like you need to force Calvin Ridley into the

1078
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: top forty, top fifty picks. And but I understand the

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00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: case for him. So I'm not gonna come out here

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: and stay Colvin Redley as a huge overdraft. But basically

1081
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: that's just not an ADP where I will be selecting

1082
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: Colvin Ridley. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like for the most part,

1083
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe because there are so many legitimate fantasy

1084
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: prospects in this division that like we sort of have

1085
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: these guys pegged mostly right? Um? You know, like I don't.

1086
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there are any wild swings, and you

1087
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: have tea guys on other teams that you just don't

1088
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: know what the outcome the projection is going to be.

1089
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like even Clyde Edwards Hilaire right,

1090
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: like I've seen in a mock draft, I've seen him

1091
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: go one overall. I'm not talking like a dynasty rookie draft,

1092
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: like just a regular league and going for overall. Um,

1093
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: but I feel like in this division we we sort

1094
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: of have everything right, So maybe there aren't. Maybe they

1095
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: just aren't overdrafted guys. It's a lot of veteran leaden

1096
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: teams there where we have the book on most of them.

1097
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why I picked Colver Ridley's is one

1098
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: of the only guy we don't have like the full

1099
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: book on maybe yet right? Um? Alright, finished up with

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00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: some either oars. Uh, you guys just give me a

1101
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: quick answer. You don't have to go in any huge

1102
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: in depth analysis. I mean you can whatever criteria you

1103
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: want to select between these two is fine by me.

1104
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: So PAT will start with you, Jared Cook or Robbie Anderson.

1105
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, in a vacuum there Jared Cook in my

1106
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: fantasy team, but I guess at their respective a DP s,

1107
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather gamble and Robbie Anderson. It's just such a

1108
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: deep year at tight end that I don't feel the

1109
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: need to pay out for Jared Cook. It was like

1110
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: a top ten tight end, agreed Anderson. Okay, all right,

1111
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: So they've O J. Howard or Ian Thomas. Well, one

1112
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: of these guys is going to see limited snaps in theory,

1113
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: and that's O J. Howard. Bronk is healthy for he'll

1114
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: he'll still play a decent amount for a number two

1115
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: tight end. I think that's gonna be there. Their best

1116
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: formation is with two tight ends. There one of several

1117
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna do that, by the way, But

1118
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: I'll go in the other direction and say Ian Thomas

1119
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: has more upside. Uh, Pat, you agree? Yeah, I have

1120
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: to say Ian Thomas. Mean, I wish showed you Howard.

1121
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: We get traded to make this more compelling. But Thomas,

1122
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, exciting Thomas exciting players, So Alji Howard, but

1123
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: just not in the right situation. It's still time. There's

1124
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: still uh Pat Hans solo or Indiana Jones. I'm gonna

1125
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: go Indiana Jones just because I think I found Harrison

1126
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: Ford frankly to be distracting as Hans Solo Star Wars

1127
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: movies were like it was almost like petrified Harrison Ford

1128
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: and uh like it was just very clear, like this

1129
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: is actor Harrison Ford and playing Han Solo. I'm gonna

1130
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: lean towards Indiana Jones for that reason. I'm taking Han

1131
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: Solo all the way. Han Solo was kind of a

1132
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: shady character. Indiana Jones was a professor nerd that did

1133
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: a lot of cool stuff. I'll take I'll take the

1134
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: shady care all right. I mean fun fun fact. I

1135
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: always like to mention that, you know, the famous scene

1136
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: in Raiders of the Lost Star where Indie takes out

1137
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: the gun and shoots the guy with the sword. Um,

1138
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know he did that

1139
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: because he was actually feeling ill that day. I think

1140
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: he had like might have some dysenterry even and they

1141
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: had done the scene multiple times where he actually used

1142
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: the whip, and finally, because he just wanted to be

1143
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: done with the scene and go, you know, to the

1144
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: lou Uh, he pulled out the gun. He shot the

1145
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: guy George Lucas and Spielberger's people was like, hey, that's great,

1146
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: let's keep it in and uh yeah, iconic and iconic

1147
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: ad lib right there it is, uh day, pancakes or waffles, waffles?

1148
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: You cannot go wrong, but pant I once won a

1149
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: pancake eating contest um in high school, so near and

1150
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: dear to my heart, I'll go with the pancakes. Uh.

1151
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a preferred topping for your pancakes

1152
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: and or waffles? Just basic syrup or anything else? Or

1153
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: what get syrup? I like to have breaded chicken and

1154
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: hot sauce and honey on my waffles. So you you're

1155
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: a man after my heart. It's hard to go wrong.

1156
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: And my cardiologist isn't a big fan. He's also a

1157
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: man after your heart, but in a very different way.

1158
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: Um wallet Marcus that that also, Um guys, I I've

1159
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: appreciated the conversation, I haven't enjoyed it. I know that

1160
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: folks who are listening to this podcast generally know where

1161
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: to find your stuff, but they encase there are people

1162
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: out there who don't know who you are or where

1163
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: your work is located. Where can they find your stuff? Well,

1164
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: you can start on Twitter at Dave Richard mentioned it

1165
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: earlier with the Ronald Jones story. I'm proud of it

1166
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: and I think it will help you make a decision

1167
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: on Ronald Jones this year. Twitter dot com slash Dave Richard,

1168
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 1: and all my content from rankings to tears to draft

1169
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: day strategies is on CBS sports dot com and we're

1170
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: always streaming fantasy football live every day during the football

1171
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: season on o s home for sports News and Analysis

1172
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: CBA Sports HQ, which is free on any device that

1173
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: gets WiFi. And Uh, you and I will talk to

1174
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 1: each other in about less than an hour, right because

1175
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: we're doing a streaming a mock salary draft. Yeah, so

1176
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: so we will. We will continue this conversation a little

1177
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: bit later. Uh, stay with you, Pat. I know folks

1178
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: generally know where to find you, but for those who

1179
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: maybe are uninitiated, where where can they locate you? Yeah,

1180
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: the the Road to World Machine r O t O

1181
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: world dot com and then on Twitter at rhoto Pat,

1182
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: which I go back and forth on not liking the handle,

1183
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: but r O t O Pat on Twitter, my real

1184
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: name was too many characters, Patrick Doherty, so I had

1185
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: to shorten it and we settle on Rhodo Pat. But

1186
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: that's where I am on the Twitter machines. Honestly, if

1187
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: Rhoto Pat goes away, I don't know what I would

1188
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: do with myself because it is where I've become kind

1189
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: of like pale or like like any Brazilian soccer player

1190
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: Rhoto pad type person, don't you said, David. Outside of

1191
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: the industry, do people call you Rhoto Pat? Not really,

1192
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean as a joke, but I mean, my wife

1193
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: is not calling me Rhodeo Pat. That's what I was

1194
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: gonna ask. Does the wife you wrote o Pa not? Yeah,

1195
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: So in the industry it's quite pervasive. Yeah, yeah, I

1196
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: think before I knew your last name, I just knew

1197
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: you was wrote. You know, my mentor, Evan Silva, has

1198
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: never called me anything other than Rhodo Pat, so it

1199
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: was hard not to stick after that. There you go,

1200
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: all right, Well, hey guys, I appreciate you jumping in

1201
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: with me. It was a whole lot of fun. And

1202
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: for the rest of you out there, that is it's

1203
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,040
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1204
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,200
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1205
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1206
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: a clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.

1207
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Take care of yourselves, wear a mask and we'll see

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