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Speaker 2: that he covers every single day. Sam, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna run right into storylines for this team.

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Speaker 2: I want the rest of my friends here to pick

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Speaker 1: I think that the conundrum with Mike Trout and the

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Speaker 5: Sam, you didn't say Mike frost had their head athletic

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Speaker 4: Million dollars ode to Rendon.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a front office issue.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an ownership issue, and probably at you know,

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Speaker 5: You talk about the fans, this might hurt their feelings.

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Speaker 5: You might lose some subscribers. Where are they going to

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Speaker 1: If I said they were gonna be good, that's what

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Speaker 5: They're White Sox West now, Jackie Robinson, Tim Anderson, Yolmer Sanchez,

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Speaker 1: It's funny because the White Sox had they just did.

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Speaker 2: So the Angels Midwest, Yeah, the Angel that would actually

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Speaker 4: Yes, but you know what White all that, the.

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Speaker 2: White Sox would call that big, big improvement. The nine games.

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Speaker 2: So I will say, I mean, you know a lot

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Speaker 2: It's not great right now, but your team was twenty

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Angels fans are trying to compare

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Speaker 1: The divisions I think wide open, so there's an opportunity

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Speaker 2: You know, there's actually had a really nice second half

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Speaker 2: and keep the glass half full. Thanks for the time,

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Speaker 2: Good to see you again.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 2: You will see, We will see.