1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into the play m GM Studios 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: for the Official Jets Podcast. This time, Sam Ficken joins us. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Sam thanks so much for joining us. You can listen 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: to the podcast on SoundCloud, Apple podcast, New York Jets 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: dot Com, and YouTube, Google play where everywhere. Be sure 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: to check it out, rate us, review us, let us 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: know what you think. I wonder listen to her. I 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: don't know, we had maybe on on last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: you're following up no pressure. Yeah yeah, after a future 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Oh, laying the hammer here early Sam's 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: used to pressure though. We'll get to that in the 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: podcast throughout in the episode, but before we dive into 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: kicking and Penn State and all that, something that fans 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: don't know about you. You were on Wall Street before 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: you were in the NFL. So can you kind of 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: explain how that came about and what happened on Wall 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Street and your job when you re entered the NFL. Yeah, 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: so I graduated from Penn State with a finance degree. 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Um three point what three point six five? I think 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: that's not too bad. I'll take it. I'll take it 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: as with my parents. So I was happy with that. 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: But no I graduated with a great degree. Um, you know, 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of dabbled a little bit, um a couple of 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: training camps. I was with the Jags. Unfortunately didn't work 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: out there, so you know, I kind of decided it 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: might be time to get a real job. So UM 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: kind of dug into the into the roots, and UM 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: came up with a guy by the name of Lance 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Launergan who's a Penn State letterman. Uh runs a trading 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: firm in Greenwich, and UM, you know, reached out to 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: him and told him I was interested, and he, uh 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: he allowed me to come out and then they hired 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: me full time after about a two month internship. So 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I was doing equity trading and UM, it was an 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: awesome experience. I had a lot of fun there. How 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: long were you doing that? Uh? Um? So I got 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: hired full time in June of seventeen, and UM, that 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: was kind of with the caveat that. You know, they 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: were like, hey, like, what's your football, Like, give me 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: a percentage of like getting you back And if you 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: get to call Sam, are you gonna go? And I 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: told him, I said, if I get a call, I'm leaving. 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: But you know, it's been pretty quiet here for a while. 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: So um, with that being said, they hired me full time. UM, 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: and about three weeks later, the chiefs called me. So 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, I said I if I got a call, 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm leaving UM and went out there. I want to 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: try out. And I was there for a training camp 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: and then got released. So I went back to the job. UM, 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: got all my licenses out of the way series seven 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: sixty three fifty seven. UM. And actually the day after 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I passed my final certification to actually start clicking buttons 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: was when I got a call from the RAMS. I 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: said again, you know, if if I get a call, 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I gotta go, and and they were super supportive. Um. 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think part of the caveat was I 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: was always brutally honest with them and where I stood, 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: and um, you know, obviously playing in the NFL has 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: been a dream of mine, so UM they understood that. 60 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: And you know, when I did get that call, They're like, hey, 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: we hope, we hope we never see you again. So 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: that's pretty nice though. Yeah. Yeah, they were super supportive 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: through the whole thing. Obviously, not too many I think 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: corporate companies would allow you to kind of hop back 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: and forth So how would you break it down to 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: a high schooler who wants to get into Wall Street 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: and business equity trading? What does that mean? Um? So, 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean your your common stocks like Apple, Facebook, Google, 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: those are just obviously the big names. Now, we kind 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: of specialized in in sticky stocks, so stuff that wasn't 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: you know trading. You know, Apple trades a couple of 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: million shares probably a day we were you know, are 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of little caveat was you know, the sticky names 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: that maybe we got a forty dollar buy or sell order, 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: but only you know, five thousand shares trade to day. 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: You know, we go out to clients on either side 77 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: of the aisle that have been in that name, and 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: then we try and match it get them a better price, 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: because if you go and try and hit that cell 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: order for forty shares, you're going to drive that price 81 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: way down. So again, when you're dealing with thousands and 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: thousands shares, pennies really count. So and whenever the NFL 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: is over for you, whether it's ten years from now, 84 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: however long that is, is this something you want to 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: go back into. Yeah? Yeah, probably, you know, I really 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed my time there, and again I think finance, especially 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: right now, is a shifting landscape. Um, but I think 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: the people that I met, and you know, kind of 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: the environment that surrounds that type of type of business 90 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: is something that draws to me. Give me the review 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: of The Wolf of Wall Street. How much of that is? 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: How much fantasy? You know? It's funny. I watched yesterday 93 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: before the game, I watched we're recording this on the 94 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday after the Browns game. For the record, I watched 95 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: American Psycho for the first time with Christian Bale And 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: have you ever seen the movie? I've I've seen clips, 97 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: not told right, so I can't stay with it for 98 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yes, it's just too much for Yeah, 99 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that coming into it, though it a 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: little much. But here I am thinking, like, you know, 101 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: it's a bunch of Wall Street guys, pinchtripe suits, slick 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: back here and here I you're in like shorts and 103 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: a teacher, and I'm picturing you in a suit doing 104 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: the thing on Wall Street and I think it fits. 105 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate, Yeah, I think it fits. But he's but 106 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: he's an Indiana kids. So when I think about Indiana kids, 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: I think about hoops and John melcamp peaks right Indiana, 108 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: it's it's hoops, I think, right after religions. So you know, 109 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: those are those are the important aspects back there. Uh, 110 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: what kind of hoops player were you growing up? We're 111 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: just talking about it before we started taping. Your first 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: cousin is want to produce all time greats, and it's 113 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Robbie Hummel. Yeah. Yeah, I certainly wasn't at his level. Um, 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, he obviously had a tremendous career and um, 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, growing up in Valpo, I get to see 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: kind of that whole journey for him, and um, you 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: know I played basketball with his younger brother, so um, 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: I think he actually might. He's still balling. He's playing 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: like in these three and three tournaments. I think might 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: be making the Olympics potentially. So obviously hats off to 121 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: him for that. And you know, now he's kind of 122 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: joined the other side of the aisle doing broadcasting. So 123 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: um yeah, obviously his story is exceptional, and you know, 124 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the way he worked at it throughout his whole career 125 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. But do you have an exceptional story yourself? Um? 126 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Goes back to Penn State because you weren't recruited by 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: those big Indiana schools whether that probably was obviously Notre 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Dame Perdue. Then you got Bloomington right there are you? 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: And you ended up at Penn State. Uh, obviously you 130 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: got a tremendous education. What was your football experience like there, 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people have read about 132 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: your start and then it was bumpy at the beginning, 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: and then you just took off from there. Yeah, I think, Um, 134 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the start of that crew was well documented. 135 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: But um, he gets sick of talking about Virginia. What 136 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: closes through your mind when you hear the name Virginia? Listen, 137 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think everyone's past a little different. Um, 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: you know with me, Um, you know, got there not 139 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: having a ton of you know, I only played two 140 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: years of high school football player. I was playing soccer, so, um, 141 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of new to that whole scene. Um. 142 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: And you know, my freshman year, I think I played 143 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: in three games kind of non crucial moments really. Um. 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: And then obviously all all sorts of stuff happens at 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: Penn State. And um, you know, our starting kicker at 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: the time, Anthony Ferry, trans furs and Um. You know 147 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: by kind of focus in that off season was let's 148 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: focus on gaining a little weight and you know, kind 149 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: of fine tune in the details. So I wouldn't say 150 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I was super ready. Um. You know when he decided 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: transfer was like, oh uh, you're the guy. Yeah. And 152 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think from a from a 153 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: standpoint of could I kick at that level, yes, But 154 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't think mentally I was ready because of that 155 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: whole off season I was prepping to be the backup 156 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: and try and kind of learned from Anthony and and 157 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: go that route. Um. But again, you know, I think 158 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: with with the way I started, UM, a lot of 159 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: good came out of out of that rough start. Um. 160 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: You know I got, I grew a relationship with Robbie Gold, 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think i'd be here sitting in this chair, 162 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: um if that wouldn't happen. And I don't know, um 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: if he would have reached out the way in which 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: he did if I had no struggle so much so early. 165 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: So for those of people listening who don't know, you've 166 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: missed four of five field goal attempts against Virginia headed, 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: extra point blocked. UM time State lost that game. Down 168 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: in Charlotteville by one point. Um, a lot of people 169 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: were a lot of people were crumble. Yeah it was. 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: It was a tough, tough few weeks for me. But 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: but that speaks to who you are again, you know 172 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: it was it was a learning experience. Uh. It taught 173 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: a lot, um, you know, about myself, um, and how 174 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to kind of handle adversity. Um. You know, I wasn't 175 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: the most well liked person around campus, and you know, 176 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm a social guy. I I don't like it when 177 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: people don't like me for you know, without even knowing me. Um, 178 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: you know, So that was something that I kind of 179 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: had to deal with and um, you know, it is 180 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: what it is. But again it's it taught me a 181 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: ton about myself, um, you know, emotionally and you know 182 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: a kicker. Well, just like to not to harp on it. 183 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: But the severity of the negativity that was towards you, 184 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: wasn't it like huge? Like we didn't you get death threats? Uh? Yeah, okay, 185 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: because I I read one online and it said that 186 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: you laughed at it, So I felt like I could 187 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: bring it up again. I think you know, there's humor 188 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: to every situation. Did I take it seriously. No, Um, yeah, 189 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: I think the joke that I think got me, you know, 190 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: cracking up a bit, was, Uh, you don't have to 191 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: worry about sam Um hurting himself because he can't kick 192 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: the chair out from under right. But but your story 193 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: does have a happy ending here, at least in Penn 194 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: State terms, because when you look at full circle the 195 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: end of your Penn State career, well one, it's in 196 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. You randomly get assigned Derek Jeter's locker and 197 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: then have a game tying field goal and then a 198 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: game winning extra point after the BC kicker misses his 199 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: extra point in overtime. So to think about how far 200 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: you came just in those in those years in Happy Valley, 201 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: how much do you feel like you grew mentally? And 202 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: then how much did that prepare you for the situation 203 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: that you're in now. Uh, you know, I think from 204 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: from that Bowl game and you know it was really 205 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: a storybook ending on my college career. Um, you know, 206 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: to start the way I did and then you know, 207 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: make second team All Big Ten and um, you know, 208 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: finish on such a high note. Obviously you've seen the 209 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: roller coaster of emotion and this position I think it 210 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: naturally involves that. So, um, you know, hopefully I never 211 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: miss you know, obviously that would be that would be great, 212 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: but that's kind of the nature of the position you 213 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: you will miss eventually. Um, And it's about kind of 214 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: staying level headed and not you know, worrying yourself about 215 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: it too much. The most ironic thing about all of 216 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: your past is that how tight the hen State A 217 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Lumps are. But everybody got after you initially and said 218 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: this guy, we gotta get him out of here. But 219 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: now look at how you've grown, not just professionally in 220 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,479 Speaker 1: the National Football League, but what you're gonna do ultimately, 221 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: probably beyond football after whenever your career is said and done. 222 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: The people who you're talking to right off the bat 223 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: our Penn State Alumps. Yeah, you know, I think I 224 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: think that was a little bit to do with also 225 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: kind of the situation of which we were playing through. Um, 226 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, when the when the sanctions hit, we had 227 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: like Letterman fly back to kind of tell us, hey, listen, 228 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: we know it's going to be struggled, but um, you 229 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: know we're here for you. When when football is also done, 230 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: we got your back, and um, you know I'm I'm 231 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: firsthand experiencing that. Um and hopefully I don't have to 232 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: go back to that world for a while. UM, but again, 233 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: you know I utilize that, and and Lance was who 234 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: was my ball obviously um at the brokerage. You know, 235 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: he was again right there for me as an inspiring 236 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: NFL kicker who now is the New York Jets kicker. 237 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Have you had to head? Have you had to have 238 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: your bags literally packed? Because you're kind of like you 239 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: got the Josh mccowy, you're the Josh mccounty kickers right 240 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: now because you've already you've already been on five or 241 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: six teams, and you're a young dude, and we love 242 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: we love Josh for the record, So it's a compliment. Yeah, 243 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, you you kind of get used to. You know, 244 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm very good at packing about two suitcases and living 245 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: out of that for a while. Um. You know that's 246 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: just the nature of the business. Um, I think until 247 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: you kind of get a foothold in one spot. Um, 248 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, kicking is a crazy business, especially in the NFL. 249 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: So um, you know you kind of know that going 250 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: in and that's kind of what you signed up for. 251 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Did you have you watched the Jets from a far 252 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: or in proximity, You're not too far away about what 253 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: happened this offseason. They have a Pro Bowl kicker Jason Myers, 254 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: wh when free agency goes in signs with the Seattle Seahawks. 255 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: The Jets bring back Chandler Canton Zero. He struggles in 256 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the preseason, he retires. They bring back Terrell Teller Bertillette 257 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: who struggled in the preseason, and then they go out 258 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: and get carry fed Vic who uh had his problems 259 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: on opening Day. What is your mindset as you're monitoring 260 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: what's going on in the National Football League and you 261 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: see specifically what's happening with the Jets. I mean, you know, 262 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of the tough thing. Obviously, if you're on 263 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: the street, you're obviously rooting for an opportunity for yourself. Um. 264 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: But then on the same side, it's like you don't 265 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: really root that they miss kicks because you know, I've 266 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: been in that situation and it sucks to get cut. Um. 267 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: I've been cut plenty of times. So I think you're 268 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: you're obviously aware of of kind of what teams you know, 269 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: are are you know, potentially looking and um, but at 270 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I let my agent handle 271 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I try to kind of dissolve myself 272 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: from the situation. Um, because you know a lot of 273 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: these guys I know personally, um, whether it's through kicking 274 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: camps or tryouts or whatever. So um, you know, on 275 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: a personal level, obviously you've lived at yourself. So that's 276 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: a bad part of this business. But at the same time, 277 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, you obviously want yourself to get an opportunity, 278 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: and you know that's just the nature of the game. 279 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: And did you allow yourself to hear the crowd roller 280 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: after you made your first vehicle as a New York 281 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Jet that's not a chippy either, Green. Yeah, you know, 282 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: generally the crowd doesn't cheer like that, le that like 283 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: unless it's like a six D yard or something. But um, again, 284 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: obviously you're aware of the situation. Um. I thought. I 285 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: think if you saw it on TV, I think I 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: gave it a little chuckle. But you know, at the 287 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: end of the day, just go out there and do 288 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: your job. I think it's it's the nature of the game. 289 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: I think they were happy you made the kick, and 290 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: it was also like relief, Yeah, we got our guy. 291 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: I think. So it's putting it through those uprights and 292 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: here you go. Um a good start. How many text 293 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: messages did you receive following Monday night football, because not 294 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: only did you get your game action with the Jets, 295 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: you start out in prime time. Yeah, you know, I 296 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: think it was like a hundred and thirty or something 297 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: like that. A hundred thirty texts after the game. Oh 298 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, people I hadn't heard from in quite 299 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, we're probably asking oh no, no, no, 300 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: just you know, a lot of messages of support. Um, 301 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: you get back to every I've tried, you know, not 302 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: last night, for sure, I was retired last night, but um, 303 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: this morning, I tried to do my best to get 304 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: back to most people. All Right, I want to know, 305 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: I just want to bring this back to hoops for 306 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: a minute, because I I didn't ask this Indiana. You 307 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: said hoops is before religion. I know you said it facetiously. 308 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: But if you're not good at basketball growing up, are 309 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: you like ostracized as a kid? Like are you shoved 310 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: in the corner? I wouldn't go that far, um, but 311 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: it I mean, it's certainly the dominant sport in the area, 312 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: and um, but like, where does an average Indiana kid? 313 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: How would an average Indiana kid fair and pick up here? 314 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: All right? Especially especially from the from the corner three spot. 315 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: That's kind of our where. You know, we're not the 316 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: most athletic, but we know how to play smart and 317 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: we know how to shoot the ball. So where's your game? 318 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: Were you? You're not that small? I mean, see, that's 319 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the thing. I would have been like a two on 320 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: my on my high school team. So Robbie, obviously we've 321 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about him. He was six eight 322 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: and he played the three. Yeah, so I think they're 323 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: starting line up. Their point guard was like six one. 324 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: Their shooting guard was like six three. He's six eight. 325 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Scott Martin, who played in Perdue as well as Notre 326 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: Dame um six eight, and then they had a center 327 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: who was like seven one. Would you guys ever pick 328 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: up the ball and play a little bit of family gatherings? Uh? Not? 329 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: With Rob? Rob had to sit on the sideline. I mean, 330 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: was that was that his choice? Or you guys just 331 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to play because yeah, it wouldn't be fair, 332 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be fair. I think i've you know, I've 333 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: actually tried to take them a few times and I 334 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: get it like three dribbles in and then steals it 335 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: from me. And who are your guys growing up? Like? 336 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Who who did you look up to as a HOOFS player? 337 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: Obviously Rob but Um, you know I obviously, I mean 338 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: I played with like six or seven NBA guys um 339 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: throughout the like Duneland Athletic Conference was their conference, so 340 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: like Mitch McGarry was my age. Um, Glenn Robinson um 341 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: won the dunk contests in the NBA. UM played against 342 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: um Zeller that AU tournament. I mean, yeah, it's just 343 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: pretty uh pretty wealthy landscape and the college recruiting front there, Yeah, 344 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: I would say so. So, Um, you've been here just 345 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Uh so where are you living at? 346 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: You're living close to the complex, so it's not that 347 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: much of a commute in here. And you've been known 348 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: to give your leg quite a workout in terms of 349 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: the volume of kicks. If you and Brandt Boyer come 350 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: together and said, hey, this is how we want to 351 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: approach practice. You know, coach has been great through the 352 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: whole thing. Obviously last week, Um, you know, you have 353 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: the tryout and then you try and kind of fast 354 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: forward to get used to the snapping hold. So you're 355 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: obviously getting a lot of reps last week, but they 356 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: did a good job of monitoring everything. And you know, 357 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: with this week being a little short, you know, I'm 358 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: sure we'll get together tomorrow to talk about what days 359 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: we're kicking and um, you know that's not something I'm 360 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: really worried. We live in a hotel right now, right now, 361 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I am actually I think I'm moving in at the time, 362 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: about half half hour to the to the half make 363 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: it easy on myself. You should get one of those scooters. 364 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the try out. What happened? 365 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: What happens with a kicking tryout? Are you there literally 366 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: with other guys here at the complex or you're come 367 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: in and you have your ten well maybe twenty minutes 368 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: where they go through. Yeah, so generally, UM, at least 369 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: most there's there's anywhere from three to five. Now my 370 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: rams trough out there were twelve kickers, so that was 371 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: that was kind of a circus um but I think 372 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: we had five total. Um, you'd fly in the night before, 373 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: you get up early for physicals and then um, you know, 374 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: the kicking workouts about an hour long, you hit about 375 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I think we hit twelve or thirteen field goals and 376 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: a few kickoffs and then they make their decisions. But 377 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: does it literally rotate so like this you set up, Yeah, 378 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: you just go one by one, same spot and then 379 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: you move. Okay, So what's happening when you're a competitive 380 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: guy and you're all there for the job. But when 381 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: you see these dudes at the hotel, everybody checking in 382 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: the night before, it's a small fraternity like you were 383 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: talking about. Is it cordial or is it kind of 384 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: like listen, Yeah, I'm just gonna get my meal and 385 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: go upstairs. I haven't run into that yet. You know, 386 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, most of us know 387 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: each other on a personal level. UM. Most of us 388 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: want us to do well for one another. UM. So 389 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: I think my mindset is always you know, obviously these 390 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: are good, good people, UM, treat them as such. But 391 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes time for me to go 392 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: try and earn a job, I'm super focused. UM. Obviously 393 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: not a lot of chit chat once we're on the field. UM. 394 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: But again, you know, I think for almost everyone I've 395 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: running into their their good people. UM. And again, trying 396 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: to treat them like that. Did you know during the 397 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: workout that I know this you generally have a good 398 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: sense of of who wins and and UM, you know, 399 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: there's obviously been a few times where um, you know, 400 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe experienced factors into a decision or not. UM. You know, 401 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: after the strato, I felt really good about how I 402 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: had done. UM, and then you know, kind of just 403 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: let the chips fall where they fall. I'm sorry, I'm 404 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: sorry green So I just wanted to ask how long? Yeah? 405 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: My question? Yeah, how long after that? Did they call 406 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: your agent? How does they? It can depend? Um generally 407 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: they send you for more in depth physical UM. So 408 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: they had sent two of us, and then um, a 409 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: few hours later they may make a decision. So all right, 410 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: so it's a couple of hours generally, Yeah, all right, 411 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: you got anything else? What's your range? Let's have any 412 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: three degree day, little wind at MetLife Stadium. I hit 413 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: uh sixty yesterday and warm ups, UM going the one 414 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: way and clinks went off the also I'll probably going 415 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: the other way. UM. I feel pretty good. All right, 416 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: this is sixty. Did you go back? Did you go 417 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: on your phone and the social media um to watch 418 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: the replayer kick or you just want the game film. UM, 419 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: I had probably up people send me a video of it, 420 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: so I obviously saw it a few times. All right, 421 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: so you have game film replay and text message, Uh, 422 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna take Hennessee and Locklin out for a pine 423 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: or something or what we figure something. Okay, I'm sure 424 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: all right, that's all we have here on the Official 425 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: Jet podcast in the play MGM Studios again New York 426 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: Jets dot com, SoundCloud, Apple podcast, Google Play YouTube. Basically 427 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: wherever you can find a podcast, you can find us. 428 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: Anything else. 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