WEBVTT - A Star Wasn't Born w/ Justin Halpern

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<v Speaker 1>Scaled, Come.

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<v Speaker 2>Robb froll Scam, come rob that's froll.

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<v Speaker 1>God is what's popping? Congregation, it's your girl. Lacey Moseley

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<v Speaker 1>aka Scam, got his back with another installment about the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we love them, sometimes we hate them, but we will

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<v Speaker 1>always laugh at them because this is a comedy show,

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<v Speaker 1>but never the victims. Hey, Congregation, what am I excited? Yes, thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the call and response. I am thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>to have our guests today. He is a new member

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<v Speaker 1>of the church. This is his first time at service,

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<v Speaker 1>so please give him a warm welcome, even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably already been welcomed into your homes and your lives

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. He is the hilarious Emmy winning

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<v Speaker 1>co showrunner of Abbed Elementary. He co developed the acclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>animated series Holly Quinn. He gained initial fame from creating

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<v Speaker 1>the Twitter feed and best selling book Shit My Dad

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<v Speaker 1>Says a Man, and is releasing a novel called Get Lost,

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<v Speaker 1>a fast paced and hilarious thriller about a young woman

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<v Speaker 1>who reluctantly teams up with her dad be dad to

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<v Speaker 1>find her missing mom When does he sleep and he

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<v Speaker 1>is a dad, y'all, No dads could be scams, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Justin Halper is not. And congregation, please get up

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<v Speaker 1>out of your seat, stand up in your cars at

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<v Speaker 1>the red light, and welcome Justin Halper to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Justin, Hello, thank you for having me. What an intro?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very excited to talk scams.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really like trying to do intros as a metaphor

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<v Speaker 1>in my own life.

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<v Speaker 2>For my own funeral. I hope someone does my intro

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<v Speaker 2>to my funeral like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that would be yeah, that would really be like

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<v Speaker 3>an amped way to start a funeral.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like usually people go low, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>I think pumping up a funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>We even want my casket to be there when people arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be announced who's dead, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>roll out the casket with music.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the beginning of like a Lakers game, right, yes, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>At five foot nine about to be six foot under

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<v Speaker 1>Lacey Moses. You know, yeah, that's pretty great, like a

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<v Speaker 1>little real of my greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe the lights go dark first and

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<v Speaker 4>then yeah, get to build up music, right yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>now I want to go to a funeral. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 4>outlive me by about thirty years, but I still want

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<v Speaker 4>to try.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>And justin you might need to be responsible for writing

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<v Speaker 1>my intro. Very good at writing that, just for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>All the Emmys and Accolades and shows that I watch

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<v Speaker 1>and love.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I found the one thing I can do

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<v Speaker 3>that was a whole scam.

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<v Speaker 2>Here was to get you here so you could write my.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to know about your relationship with scams.

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<v Speaker 1>And lately on this show, I've been asking my guests

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<v Speaker 1>their opinions, their expert opinions on three random topics, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know for each topic, is it a

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<v Speaker 1>scam to you? Is it a scheme to you? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it a real thing? So is it a scam,

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<v Speaker 1>a scheme, or a real thing? The first one is

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<v Speaker 1>tax accountants, scam, scame or real thing? And I will

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<v Speaker 1>define that a scam is like inarguably a grift, a scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little scammy, but legitimate. And then a real thing,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say if you make over five million dollars

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<v Speaker 4>a year, it's a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>And not the rich person getting scammed. It's it's all

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<v Speaker 3>of us, everyone else getting scammed. I know, where are

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<v Speaker 3>you going under that? Say a real thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it is a scam when you get richer, because

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<v Speaker 1>then it's harder to tax you. Yes, and the IRS

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<v Speaker 1>is criminally underfunded. And like when you get so rich

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<v Speaker 1>that you could just send U haul trucks to the

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<v Speaker 1>IRS and be like try to find the needle in

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<v Speaker 1>the haystack.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you send a thousand pages of documents all reporting losses.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a total scam.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so poor. Don't look at me on my yat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm poor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is my poverty. Yeah, I'm so poor. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to live on water.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm always floating back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be in Greece. There's nowhere else I

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<v Speaker 2>can go, Yeah, because of my poverty.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, if you have to send your money to another

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<v Speaker 4>country on a one stop then that means the you're

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<v Speaker 4>a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly a dream of mine for.

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<v Speaker 3>Your money to live somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, I'm trying to get to Switzerland. I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get to the Caymans. Like I remember visiting

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<v Speaker 1>the Cayman Islands and I think that they're probably the

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<v Speaker 1>least friendly tourists spot in the Islands in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was always wondering why, and then I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't need tourism net bag. Yeah, they have

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<v Speaker 1>everyone hiding their money there. They were like, listen, little

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<v Speaker 1>white girl, we not going rade o' here and put

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<v Speaker 1>polka shells in it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, And I love that for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they have no kids clubs there, there's no Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't give a shit, can't fuck Okay, yeah, it's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure kid's justin.

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<v Speaker 3>No mind too, let's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Okay, my next question for you. Scam schemer,

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<v Speaker 1>real thing justin credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a scam.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a total scam because it just prays on people

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<v Speaker 4>who can't afford to pay off their bill every month,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they use all that money that they get,

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<v Speaker 4>all this late fees and stuff, to you know, subsidize

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<v Speaker 4>all the other bullshit they do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the scheme, right, And it was invented in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything invented in the eighties is the scams.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything invented in the eighties, you know, somebody was on

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine when they made it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and what about this numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>We make numbers, Yeah, and those numbers aside who we

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<v Speaker 1>get the houses to? Hey, everybody sounds great, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>In the eighties you did cocaine, you either created die

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<v Speaker 4>hard or a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather create die Hard. But maybe I would

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<v Speaker 1>love also to make a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just true.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be the best time for scams.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean madeoff was doing well in the eighties, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he made off with everybody's money.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I happen to agree with you on that

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. The last question scam scheme real thing love?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, real thing? Oh yeah, that's right. That's right. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a real thing. Doesn't mean we all get it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can't have none, but just justin over here

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<v Speaker 1>saying like it's real.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all don't know about it, but I do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's beautiful. Why do you think so?

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<v Speaker 4>I've been happily married and in real love for well,

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<v Speaker 4>I should know this. If I'm happily married sixteen years wow,

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<v Speaker 4>and I one hundred percent feel it's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen years, that's right, that is a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a long time. It does feel like a

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 4>We were at a wedding and they do that thing

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<v Speaker 4>where it's like, if you've been on the we've been

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<v Speaker 4>married more than five years, get off the dance floor,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to see you, and they keep going up

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<v Speaker 4>and up every year, and I was like, damn, we're

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<v Speaker 4>one of the last ones here.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love that. And perhaps if I ever trick

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<v Speaker 1>someone into getting the government involved in a relationship with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I will do that because I invertally actually did that

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<v Speaker 1>for my friend Taylor Mishaks. I was making cards for like,

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<v Speaker 1>I did this whole wedding decoration and her trailer and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because while we were shooting Going Dutch the first season,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to fly home, get married, and fly back,

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<v Speaker 1>and so her husband came with her on the way back.

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<v Speaker 1>But we obviously you know, when you book a flight,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll book a job, and sometimes I guess when you

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<v Speaker 1>book a wedding you'll book a shot, right, And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this venue is way too expensive, y'all go

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<v Speaker 1>have to get move some stuff around so I could

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<v Speaker 1>at least get home.

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<v Speaker 2>So they gave her like an extended weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So I decorated her trailer and got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>like bridle stuff and gifts and things. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>I asked people to sign cards, I had three different cards.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one for the cast, there was one for

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<v Speaker 1>the crew, and then there was one for anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>had been married over ten years?

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<v Speaker 4>And how many was that? Was that like a large

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<v Speaker 4>section or was it you're surprised to find.

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<v Speaker 3>Aunt a ton?

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<v Speaker 1>It was, but it was It was funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do what your friends did at their wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, if you've been married.

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<v Speaker 2>For five years, get off the dance book.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd literally hold the card up to people and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how long have you been married?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sign this one, not that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But then for like people who had long lasting marriages,

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<v Speaker 1>like sign this one with.

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<v Speaker 3>So were writing a little message to message. So what

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<v Speaker 3>group wrote the best messages?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? It was absolutely that people who had been over

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<v Speaker 1>married over ten years. Joe Morton wrote the best mess

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just a poet and a genius and a savant.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't really watch TV. He just lives life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's shocking. I can't do that I can't either.

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<v Speaker 1>I love TV me. He's like doing Falconry and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you sure you don't want this VPN because even though

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<v Speaker 1>we in Ireland, we can tell everybody we in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can download these shows. Yeah, my bad, I

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<v Speaker 1>did watch a lot of abbit from New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, right, listen any way we can get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Still I think it's still counted as a string.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it count I think I still see something

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<v Speaker 4>from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, well, thank you. I love I love

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<v Speaker 1>those opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been.

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<v Speaker 4>Scam justin I'm sure many many times. I've been part

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<v Speaker 4>of scams. Oh yes, yes, I well you jump.

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<v Speaker 2>From victim to participate room.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know, I know I was sometimes one.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to work in an internet company, this company

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<v Speaker 4>called break dot com, which doesn't exist anymore, like a

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<v Speaker 4>video sharing company maybe you remember now, and yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>probably better.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're sorted by calling it an internet company, which

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<v Speaker 1>already told me it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a scam.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, right right, and break dot com yeah, And

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<v Speaker 4>they would be like Coca Cola would like want to

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<v Speaker 4>place their ad on the video page, and they would promise,

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<v Speaker 4>they'd say Okay, you're going to get one hundred thousand views,

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<v Speaker 4>and you pay us money for those hundred thousand views, guarantee.

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<v Speaker 4>But what we would do on our side is we

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<v Speaker 4>would go to we had to deal with this super

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<v Speaker 4>nasty porn site. And on their site, super nasty porn.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Porn itself already sounds, but I felt.

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<v Speaker 3>Necessary, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt necessary to clarify that's what this porn site was.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't just one of your mom and popcorn sites,

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<v Speaker 4>one of your nice, down the middle porn sites.

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<v Speaker 3>This was nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are your suburban port no, that's right. So y'all

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so what we do is on their page,

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<v Speaker 4>on their site, it would be like a gang bang

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<v Speaker 4>of four chicks and two like whatever, and it'd have

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<v Speaker 4>a thumbnail of that. But then when their users would click,

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<v Speaker 4>it'd be like Coca Cola, the brand, blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 4>and so, and then it would we get all these views. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>we'd get like a because nobody's going to actually click

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<v Speaker 4>on a Coca Cola ad, but they will if they.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's a gang bang.

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<v Speaker 4>And so my job was to put that video up

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<v Speaker 4>and then send it to the porn company.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't put up the Gang Bang video. I was

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<v Speaker 3>on the A side.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that, And well, justin you were the original bots.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yes, that's kind of botting.

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<v Speaker 2>I can appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's just random and they're just under everything and

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying random stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I would appreciate being tricked out of.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, what if my super nasty porn affliction.

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<v Speaker 2>Ended because of a Coca cola?

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<v Speaker 3>You think we brought people to the light.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is how I stopped doing super nasty porn watching.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say they weren't holding that when they clicked

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<v Speaker 4>the ad. They were holding something else, but it was yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So then, actually, the way we got caught and by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, it wasn't my idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just pushing the buttons.

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<v Speaker 4>But the way we got caught is the the company

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<v Speaker 4>was like, hey, how come people are only watching our

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<v Speaker 4>ad for point zero zero four seconds? Damn every time

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<v Speaker 4>they clicked because people would click it, see it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>what they thought.

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<v Speaker 1>It was then clicking and then they went back.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't Cokela No, no, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they were but not in that not in that

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<v Speaker 2>way or in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh wow, I mean but but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get upset about that because this to me

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<v Speaker 1>like it is scamming the nasty porn watchers. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the company who paid for the advertisement, they got the views.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't finish your session and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>your jones are for a nice cold coke.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe people are nobody is in a better spot to

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<v Speaker 4>take in advertising than maybe the person who clicked on

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<v Speaker 4>that ad. Like they're susceptible to anything in that moment,

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<v Speaker 4>they're really open.

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<v Speaker 2>They are really open and in more ways than what.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the jerkoff demographic is really underutilized.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, If someone advertised me while I had my koodio out, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's like memorable. That's a memorable experience. I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget it because I'm very vulnerable in that moment. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna remember everything. Yeah, you've got your lotion and your

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<v Speaker 1>tissue and you and and and what maybe you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom hat in for.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 4>Is you're gonna mem Yeah, you're gonna know and then

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<v Speaker 4>afterwards you're gonna want maybe a Coca Cola. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you're right, you know, maybe it wasn't a scam.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this's also this is sol legit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think break dot com was giving everybody

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<v Speaker 2>a break.

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<v Speaker 4>They were you know, so they went out of business,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I think we should bring them back.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a business model there for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It is scarf.

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<v Speaker 1>Cod Oh my gosh, tangent. But we'll get into the story.

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<v Speaker 1>But that also makes me think of like how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certain websites, like porn websites have like communities and comments sections. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, who is bonding over this? Who finishes

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they're doing to themselves? And it's like I need

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<v Speaker 1>to leave a comment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have thoughts, yeah exactly that I couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 4>to myself that I needed other people to know. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>when you finish doing that, the ability to do anything

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<v Speaker 4>usually is pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that which makes me think these are like

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<v Speaker 1>super type a people, yeah, who like maybe schedule their

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<v Speaker 1>diddling in their day and there's like time to diddle,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, seven minutes out the window time for me

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<v Speaker 1>to leave a response.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really enjoyed this video.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we got great to the point I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's people on both ends of the productivity spectrum. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the people who probably don't get anything done in an

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<v Speaker 4>entire day and the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are like the CEOs of companies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right. I think it's exactly that. It's how

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<v Speaker 1>they always say that if you are miserable, you either

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<v Speaker 1>have not enough money or way too much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're leaving a comment on a porn video, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're too much time or not enough or not enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Sometimes I think about this one comment I saw

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<v Speaker 3>once on a porn video and it just said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>great job.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, and I thought, wow, they I like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>they must think that the person in the porn went

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<v Speaker 4>back and I guess read the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>They might.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if people look.

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<v Speaker 1>At their views and people like, you know, want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that they're spreading, you know, the disseminating Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the work, ye, the products. Oh my gosh, I sound

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<v Speaker 1>looks such a prude, but the work the pornographic cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>Pornographic cinema. Yes, no, but but I think that's lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>You did say justin there that love is not a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was sweet of them to say. Good job.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys you know, might have cheered up that person. They

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<v Speaker 4>were having a tough day, they went and looked at

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<v Speaker 4>the common section of the porn that they're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, you guys get on Apple podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>and leave me a good job. It's five stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Break dot Com isn't here anymore. Okay, but if it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I would advertise on it. I would love for it

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<v Speaker 1>to be like Nasty sex binge before it's scam God is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe you would listen to the podcast afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get into my favorite segment here, historic could wings.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where I were a gale justin with a

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<v Speaker 1>famous con caper scheme. Maybe it's a group of criminals,

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<v Speaker 1>a single actor, a couple. We don't know yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get his opinions all through out. So today keeping.

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<v Speaker 2>Up on our dad theme, because we've talked about all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that dad's love.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got born else.

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<v Speaker 2>Coca Cola love, being tax accountants.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is a dad centric start.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, making up credit in the eighties definitely someone's father.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about a suburban dad and aspiring musician

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Smith who made ten million dollars by creating thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of fake listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he also a break a break dot com? Justin

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<v Speaker 2>was this you no? No plow were.

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But I wish I could pull off that hat.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Justin is giving you might have had

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<v Speaker 2>a TND and he was has some biceps.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the best I've ever looked, By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>what every photo musician he can never look at the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always like off into the distance.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, musicians are the only people who can get away

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<v Speaker 1>with fedoras. It's still ichy, Yeah, it's still iky, but

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<v Speaker 1>when a musician wears it, it's like, oh are you Santana, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll let this happen. Other than that, stop wearing them,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're approaching people for threesomes. I told y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always a really beautiful woman who approaches me and

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<v Speaker 1>a man in a fedora in the corner like yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no her, sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You know's got to send her over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But also he could not wear the fedora.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I feel like once you're into threesomes, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to have some kind of hat. You can't you

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<v Speaker 4>can't just have your regular hairstyt But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like that's not the hat that convinces me you're

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<v Speaker 2>good at three.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know why I'm defending this, this hypothetical guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not, but I'm bald, and I like hats.

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<v Speaker 1>I like hats too. But I also love that he's

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<v Speaker 1>posed in front of this graffiti wall holding his guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>looking like he's midstrum. It's it's really giving.

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<v Speaker 2>It's giving, Jason Maras, it's giving, Jason Maras. I agree, Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also giving. Jason. I feel like he could do

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<v Speaker 2>a flip. Look at all that white he got on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know he can do a flip.

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<v Speaker 3>Has he got a vest on too?

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<v Speaker 1>A white vest over a white T shirt with white pants?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that not Jason Derulo? Okay, I bet you we

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<v Speaker 1>could do a flip. And if the door stays on.

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<v Speaker 3>See, that's the kind of guy I wanted a threesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, now you're don't make me like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now if I get into the situation justin, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to call you like this. I didn't. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>It happened. He did a flip right in front of me,

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<v Speaker 3>and the hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Was on, and I was like Okay, give me your

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room key, I'll come. Okay, I'll be there. So

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<v Speaker 1>this this suburban dad and aspiring musician Mike Smith. He

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<v Speaker 1>made ten million dollars by creating thousands fake listeners to

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<v Speaker 1>stream his also fake music, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He could rake in the royalties.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mike was a dad in his forties who wore

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<v Speaker 1>tight shirts and known the chain of urgent care facilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, that's not where I thought that was going. Wow, really,

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<v Speaker 4>anybody but anywhere but there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you didn't think we're gonna go for urgent care?

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<v Speaker 3>No tight shirts and also rescued dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Like, I don't know if I want tight shirts,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I think I have strip and then

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<v Speaker 1>just the tightest shirted.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>This is such a specific kind of person in their forties.

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<v Speaker 4>Really though, as a man in my forties, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to make the decision that you're never gonna wear anything

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<v Speaker 4>super tight again.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have a good bod.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, but thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you do some type of recreational sport.

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<v Speaker 3>What is no, I don't know. It mostly just looks

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<v Speaker 3>like I have cancer, but but I don't. And I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate and support everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Who does but I don't. But I look like I do,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that's why I wouldn't wear it. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>if something looks tight on me, it's simply just because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm deathly skinny. But this man, I think he obviously

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<v Speaker 4>works out, probably no more than two days a week.

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<v Speaker 3>But none of them are legg day.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, you know those calves are skin teeth,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah they are. But I think he feels good enough

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<v Speaker 4>to try to wear that tight shirt. And I think,

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<v Speaker 4>as a guy in your forties, you have to just

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<v Speaker 4>transition out of this shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are people who accept that they're in

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<v Speaker 1>their forties and they hang out with people of their

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<v Speaker 1>own age and their own ilk because they enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>camaraderie of talking about things with people your own age.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, my little sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Moved to Los Angeles to go to grad school, and

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<v Speaker 1>I realized because I was like, oh, I was going

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<v Speaker 1>out of town again to shoot, going Dutch in Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that for like four months year, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I don't know anybody, Like I need

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<v Speaker 1>to find some friends for her because I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>gone and I don't want her to be alone. And

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<v Speaker 1>so then I started thinking, like, who are my friends

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<v Speaker 1>in their early to mid twenties, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anybody in their early to mid twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally had to ask friends and then be like,

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<v Speaker 1>can your cousin you want to do a cousin date

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>with my sisters so they can meet it. They could,

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 1>they could be friends. Like I didn't know anybody, but

0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that guy, that guy in that tight ass shirt, he

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<v Speaker 1>knows all the people in their twenties and probably some

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<v Speaker 1>club promoters.

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<v Speaker 4>Still, yeah, and that's probably really problematic. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that he's probably had one good interaction with one person

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<v Speaker 4>in their twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when I was in college, there would be an

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<v Speaker 1>old person and like there was this this football player

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 1>who ex football player who owned a chain of check

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:48.120
<v Speaker 1>cashing places.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there either, Wow, And that's the same with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a tight shirted man who owns some urgent care.

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's the formula is you got to have

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>one thing that don't go with the other, and then

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you stay in the And he was.

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:01.959
<v Speaker 2>In his fifties.

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 1>He would take us to the clubs, he would take

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>us everywhere, and uh, you know, one time he did

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>trip and fall, And that's when I really realized how

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>old he was because when he tripped and phil like,

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 1>we were all out and drinking and stuff. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it had been a younger person tripping and falling, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have laughed and been like, oh, bit the gasp in

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the silence when this old man fell, we was like, oh,

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Is he gonna die?

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 4>By the way, that was his nightmare because he would

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 4>have felt so much better if everyone laughed. But the

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 4>fact that you were seriously concerned about his health, that's

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:44.239
<v Speaker 4>what that. Nothing is more sobering than people recognizing how

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 4>well je.

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>When you start tripping and people are concerned if you're

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>okay and not making fun of you. Yeah, you turned

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 1>the corner. You've turned a corner. And so you know,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.640
<v Speaker 1>he got the tight shirts on, he's got the urgent care.

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 1>And this is when he decided to start self rising

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 1>or self financing a rise to music start up because

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>tight shirts and urgent care were not enough for him.

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So he lived in a big house in Charlotte, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>with his six kids and wife until that stopped inspiring

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>him and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know he had to be inspired to stay married.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've been married for sixteen years. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you've been inspired.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike said, I'm not aspired by my family no more.

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Y'all ain't got the rids no more. Okay, they stop

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>wearing tight shirts. He was like, I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>He fruit of the low mass, bitches, I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>with you no more. So he reconnected with and married

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>his college girlfriend, which reminded him how much he liked

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a jam session back in college.

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<v Speaker 3>You're describing the saddest man in the world.

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>He shouldna stay with his family, Yeah, because he went

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and married somebody who encouraged his corniness. And I'm sure

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>his friend in college, who is unmarried at this age,

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what he got them urgent cares.

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ignore the fact that his nipples are rock

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>hard in every room we go into, because I need

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>financial stability in a person of my own age.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>And then she was like, yeah, baby, get back into jamming.

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Man to the garage. No one's ever been more divorced

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 3>than this guy. This is wow.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>That does feel like a divorced man's hobby.

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No one jams, but divorced dads the only people

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 3>who jam.

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Divorce dads jam, and dads who have been buried and

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you know for like forty years, they put like together.

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Boats and bottles, yes, yeah, and intricate train sets.

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Intricate train sets. Yes, And that gives them a thrill

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>up their leg that they need. So he knew how

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to play the guitar, banjo, piano, drums, bass, mandolin, and

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the docimer.

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I've never heard.

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've heard that in my ear

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>or heard of it at all. But he and he

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>always thought that he could be a star.

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 3>So this is oh God, just to go laugh him,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, keep going to be a star just he could.

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>This newly divorced guy used the money from his medical

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>business to fill his music career because he thought treatment

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>treating people for ail miss that wasn't enough for the world.

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Now said fuck that I actually need. My music is

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna heal y'all. Yeah, more yeah, even more.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Character that's gonna rack up the bills to pay for this.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>He decided he was the Patch Adams of music.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>So all y'all needed a little music, y'all gonna be Okay,

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>So Mike linked up with a music publicist named Hey,

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>best known for promoting his name was Hey, this is Hey.

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah absolutely, he looks like Hey, yeah.

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like this is the straw man.

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 4>When has this guy ever been introduced into a story

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 4>and things got better?

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Why do I feel like I'm on like the Wizard

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of Oz, Like we've got Mike, he's Dorothy and the

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>two tight shirts.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>We've got Hey, he's given.

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Me like the Cowardly Lion, a little bit.

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Cowardly lion or horse scarecrow.

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, you're right, scarecrow, little of both.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>He's given scarecrow as well.

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And Hey was best known for promoting a false rumor

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that Rihanna had hooked up with jay Z to boost

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>attention for her two thousand and four song pon the Replay.

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 3>He is famous for that.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a famous industry liar.

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't know that you could, Like, is that

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 3>a business?

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what is Perez Hilton?

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well but this guy just did it once.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>That's what TMZ used to be and now they want

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to be real journalists. GMZ knows if you're dead before

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you do, I.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Hope.

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>So we used to not trust them, but now when

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>they pop up, I'm.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 4>Like, now they're the most trusted. I'm like, I'll wait

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 4>to see what TMZ says.

0:27:58.840 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>That's all you know.

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Outlets are funcked by the government when you're like, I'll

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>wait to see what TMZ says. And sadly that is

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>a real thing in my brain. I kept seeing rumors

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that Erica Kirk was at Coachella, and I was like,

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>m I'll wait to see.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Before I believe this.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So SMH Records shake my head is what that sounds

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like to me. But in this case it's Mike and Hey,

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the S stands for, We'll find

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>a star. They started a music label called SMH Records

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and plan to work their way through the industry as

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>producers while also making Mike himself a star. Mike had

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the money to open the label, sign artists and produce

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>their albums because remember he left people who needed health

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>care behind.

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, as we all do as a country.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, to make money being a star. Yes, And

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>this is SMH records social media page.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Y'all need to get my king sway off of here. Okay,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>get him off of here. Don't do my king like that.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>See he belongs on this page that makes is that

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a what's that old man's name? The light skinned one

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>who's old. People are gonna get really mad about this.

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Not mister world Wide. He's an old like a Motown

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>crooner with light green eyes who had a weird sex

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>album recently.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>But he's in his eighties. Oh damn, I know somebody

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>is screaming right now.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Smokey Robinson, Yes, show he does.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Smokey Robins has a show here.

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It's a channel, Smokey's the Soul something or other. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>and he hosts a channel on serious accent.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Wow, y'all listen to Smokey's.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 3>And we brought him up because we love it.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it might get weirdly horny, but don't don't

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>worry about that.

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 3>There's not another way to get horny in your eighties.

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 3>It's only weirdly horny.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I'm happy for them because I hope to

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>be weirdly horny in my eighties. So Smah's got a

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>distribution deal with Capitol Records subsidiary, and a Universal Music

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>executive left a senior vice president position to be their

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>chief operating officer.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>So they got some real backing behind this.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 3>And with these meetings that they were taking with Hay

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>and the other guy.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike and Hay and maybe S.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe is that S?

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>We don't know who is.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>So Mike and Hay made two albums together. One was

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>called Fear of a Pink Planet? Is that about women? Maybe?

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that would be a good inso bop.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 4>It feels like a good insul that's like a clovicular

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 4>bop like that's.

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was inspired like it was credited to this

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>group called Pink Grenade, which also feels like men being

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>afraid of Like, yeah, what if a coucie was a bomb?

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, what if it was?

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what women leadership feels like to them. Oh no,

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>we have a coucie bomb boss.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh no.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And then they had another album called When Music Worlds Collide,

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>which is not no. Yeah, Fear of a Pink Planet

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I might tune in, but When Music Worlds Collide feels

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>bad and credited to Mike and Hay and the Bay

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Area hip hop artist DJ King Tick.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>So that's not one of the Bay Area hip hop

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>artists I've heard of.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I have not heard of King Tech, it goes.

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>And then DJ.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Then it goes DJ King Test.

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Those are the top two Bay Area artists.

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I would throw it.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh too short, too short, and you can't forget what's

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the space with the paint hammer?

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Mc hammer?

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, that's true. He certainly wouldn't forget it.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm scared of him. People don't know those

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>don't let them funny pants for you. That man was

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a gangster, is that true? Yes, and very feared and

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>respect him. Really, yes, you're being serious.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, mc hammer was. He he was out here at

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>him a time, but then everywhere else they were like

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the hammer.

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Run like yeah, it's like hearing like Mickey Mouse fucked

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 4>people up right, that's crazy.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it is comical.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>That's why I love that sketch in The Chappelle Show

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>where it was Wayne Brady and he was like, yes,

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Brady the bitch and everybody's like.

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>It's why Brady run away?

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Like wow, I know that.

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So both of these albums had tons of features, including

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:46.719
<v Speaker 1>one from Parliament Funkadelic drummer Jerome Brayley and uncredited monologue.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>From Johnny Depp. On one song, Johnny Depp went on

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>there and did a monologue.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 4>Did he know he was doing it for like, did

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 4>they take it from a movie or he actually went

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 4>on and just did a monologue.

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes in our career sometimes you just show

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>up places and they tell you you gonna get money

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and then just.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 3>You just do it.

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>One time, I was on camera and they were like,

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll give you five thousand dollars to open this ruler.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was broke at the time. I don't know

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>how I got this job, and I thought maybe it's

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna kill me when I went. But I was like,

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>got a risk it and I went, and they just

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to comically open some very complicated science thing

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>for a tech conference. So it's probably to be like,

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>look at this hot dummy who can't understand this complicated ruler.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Look at her how dumb and hot and on TV

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>she is.

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Man's the only one who did it.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Cecily Strong, did.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>You both open? You both open for this tech company?

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was filmed. It only took thirty minutes.

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I don't know what they did with it. Travel

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the nasty point. I'm right in front of a co

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>commercial right now, rab.

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.959
<v Speaker 1>The Avila Brothers songwriters and producers, best known for their

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>work with Usher, recorded one of his songs with Billy

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Ray Cyrus and Snoop Dogg. That makes sense to make

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a Snoop Dogg just be doing anything.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he'll do whatever.

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>He'd be doing anything.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 2>And so the song is called Lipstick.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a song about Kim Kardashian and features Ashley Holmes,

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>who was famous for being one of the Real Housewives

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of New Jersey. And let's just hear a little bit

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of lipstick Jonathan Hay and Mike Smith, Oh, lipstick, pink grenade.

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I hope my mom do the song.

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I know you wont my lipstick on your tip stick.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Than your stupid hos Mac on my face. I'm rocking

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 2>diamonds on my little bitch. Now you're playing with the

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>pros a foot fetish.

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 3>There's a ton of foot fetish in this.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>You on with my big old double dhoy. So she's

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>looking licking a white joy with your big pallas.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I know you want my lipstick you okay?

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>That's yeah? Is that what you did for the tech company?

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I know you want your roller in my pool.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a little bit of the like little Mama lip

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Glass five.

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my lip blouses Poppet made. That's what they were

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>going for.

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 4>But it's all about sucking dick dipstick, which yeah, which

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 4>is like a nobody even says that. Well, it's like like, ah,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 4>your nineteen forties dipstick, like that's nobody uses.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>That and it's meant to be grotesque, but it's actually

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of like funny.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Why is she stepping on lipstick over and over again because.

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna put it on her toes so she could

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>put the toes on the dipstick?

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Also, has a music video ever been made for less

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>than this?

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 2>They cut back to the shot several times.

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 4>There was it's literally taking place in like one room,

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 4>in one part of one room, like the other part

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 4>of the room is probably like people in cubicles.

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Like it's right, and you're so right about dipsick being

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>so outdated. It's giving like I.

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Know you want my palt on your pad to welcome tonight,

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Like what are we doing? And why so they wrote

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>this I would hope so yeah. So now if only

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Mike's music had been good, this system would have worked.

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>We have another song that we want to show you

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>justin if you're.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay with it.

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Please.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>It's called Let's Take It Naked. Maybe it's better. The

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>song is crashing my computer.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Hold on, here we go, Okay, do the starts with.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Due to our strong personal convictions, we wish to stress

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that this film in no way endorses the belief in

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the illuminati.

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I've never seen a warning like that before.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>It's like the beginning of a BHS tape. Uh oh oh,

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 2>it's huragan. Okay. It's a lot of cocaine.

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so much cocaine, but like not in the way

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that you would think people would do cocaine.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 4>No, it's like he's doing cocaine with a crazy straw though,

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 4>like a straw from a children's birthday.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 3>He gragged to do cocaine.

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, to coca like coming to Swanson's and big

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Sunday straw.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to see anymore.

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>If let's take it naked, it's actually crashing our computer,

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. It's so bad it's imploating things. So

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.399
<v Speaker 1>let's get to the rap reality competition show. You knew

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that was coming up next, right, justin absolutely like Mike and.

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Have does the Zeus network come up anywhere in this Batty?

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a book for the world. Obviously, I've seen it.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I have to say, Quinta Brunson will not let me

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 3>watch anything on the Zeus Network. She's banned me from

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know.

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 2>What, and I appreciate that Quincy did that.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know.

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>We both worked on a Black Lady's Sketch show. That's

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>how we met.

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>And uh, she's protecting you from a gaze that only

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>black people should see.

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>She said that I shouldn't see it.

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>It's shameful and we don't need you to think about

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>any of us that way. Too many wigs flying and

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>all they do is give them ladies tequila and the

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>occasional dorito.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>And tell them to street fights. And I feel like,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 2>now I'm selling it.

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you just did the worst job of not getting

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 4>people to watch the Zeus Network.

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna admit it.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 5>I have.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the things.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But for me, it's cathartic because I was like, if

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>my acting career ever, or any of my performing careers

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>went south, I feel like I could get one. Yeah,

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd be okay out of someone. Oh, that wouldn't be

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>my role. I feel like there's no one on that

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>show who likes It's like very prideful to like win

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a fight and stand on business. Yeah, I feel like

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I could sit on Shenanikins and I could run away,

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like everybody would just be me running away like no,

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and if they happen to catch me, be like oh

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>ow nobody.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh Like I feel like that would be good for me.

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>So the rap reality competition show this is where Mike

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>continues to pour money into his dreams, even though these

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>songs were objectively terrible and somewhat terrifying.

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 2>So and they don't even turn to be good bad,

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 2>They're just bad.

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So next he fully self financed a rap reality competition

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>show called One Shot. He made it himself with no

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>network attached in twenty fourteen, and we have a little

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>bit of the trailer of One Shot. I'm guessing that

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Eminem was popping and he was like, you only get

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>one shot.

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. We set up one stage, one stage rich with

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 5>one ties to impress all celebrity judges a woman each

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 5>week MC's Move On. One will go home with one

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 5>hundred K and a record deal. The others just go

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 5>home way King Crooked and King One Undisputed King of

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 5>the Mic DJ Khalil, who will make that one shot count.

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 3>This is reality.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 5>One Shot from twenty seven September seven on B B

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 5>E T.

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I knew I had heard of one Shot. Damn it.

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 6>It got me, by the way. That is a who's

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 6>who of people who will do anything for my money.

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 6>That's like, yeah, I feel like justin.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>When you're writing the eulogy for my funeral. We can

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely get Dj Khaled on the mic to say we

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the bess.

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, or we want the best Heavy was, yes,

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 3>we can get t I there too.

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure, you can.

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Die whenever you like. Yeah, we yep, yep, we got it.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>We got a whole line up coming. So Mike and

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>his main collaborates are collaborators.

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Crooked, Team Keck and Sway Callaway.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, Smike.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>They held these nationwide auditions and they got t I, Riza,

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the Game, Tech nine, Twista, and Dj Khaled to do

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the guest hosting. Crooked says that they filmed nearly eighty

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>percent of the show themselves and used that footage to

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>create a sizzle reel and sold it to BET before

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>completing the production.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure was like, yes, we love these Shenanigans.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>For the winner of One Shot they promised one hundred

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in a deal with Smah Records. Oh god,

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the coveted so because he paid for it, Mike got

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>seated at the judge's table. Though he's barely in the

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>trailer and it's often unclear why he's on the show

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>at all, he wanted to be in front of the

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>camera as well.

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>There is not wearing his fedora, but definitely looking out

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of place.

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no he does. I mean, that's a pretty motley crew.

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, he probably took inspiration from Diddy

0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>because Diddy used to always be in his artist music

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>video unnecessarily and everyone had a problem with it. Like

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that was the thing that Shuge Knight talked about. He

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, if you don't want you producer in your

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>music video, come to death Row Records. They knew he

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>was a minis for a long time. So around the

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>time the production on the show started, Mike and Hey

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>got in a fight. Hey started to suspect that his

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>buddy's finances were not all in order. He and other

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>ESMAHS employees sent their business associates a one hundred and

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>eleven page document accusing Mike of financial mismanagement. Mike reply

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>alled with one sentence, how would you reply, justin, wow

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to you're a business partner who's now outed you to

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the entire company saying that you're mismanaging finances.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 2>What's one sentence? I would just shut it all down?

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, did he reply with his bank statement?

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Justin you're a real class act. He said, you

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 2>got a tiny penis?

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, well that's drying.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got I like we call it a penis,

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You got a tiny penis. His words for phallacies are dipstick, dips,

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>penus s.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 3>Long like this dude has never referred to a dick.

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 2>No, he's never sexted.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>No, no, or he has, but he's It's ended very quickly.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to be the speculum and your hap smear

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like it's like when we found out

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Prince Charles was calling Camilla talking about I'd love to

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>be your tampon.

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>It's giving that like, Sarah, what.

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Check out my hard wiener are terrible?

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Wiener's awful.

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>So the show aired its only season, Shocker, on BT

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, which feels too close to the present

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 1>even though it's ten years ago. It didn't turn Mike

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>into a star. But at least he made up with

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>his friend Hay and they kept trying. So the French

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that I made up.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Good, I'm glad.

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 2>He said you had a tiny penis.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 3>He was like what yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, how do

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 3>you think they had a real hard to heart out?

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Love is real? So you just love Israel. So let's

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>get to the fake listeners that sparked all of this.

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, Mike started to use fake email addresses

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to create bot accounts on streaming platforms that could play

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>his music on repeat. Now he started to get some

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>traction with the royalties. The bot accounts started running up

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the streams. At one point, he had one thousand and

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>forty accounts, each one streaming approximately six hundred and thirty

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>six songs a day, with his music accruing about six

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty one thousand, four hundred and forty streams

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a day, and the average royalty per stream was half

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a cent.

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, so yeah this is back.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>So Mike estimated he was earning about three thousand, three

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seven dollars and twenty cents a day. Wow,

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so like ninety nine two hundred and sixteen dollars a

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>month and over one one point two million a year.

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Damn.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is making me think differently about dipstick.

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Should we write a song?

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Patty Whacker.

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Patty Whackers, we have you stepping on lipstick?

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah, something something in that area.

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 4>This this feels like I'm I've turned a corner on

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 4>this guy. I feel like this doesn't seem like someone

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 4>was a tiny penis to me at all.

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>No, or maybe yeah, or maybe they basic Yeah, he

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:29.280
<v Speaker 1>just to distract from the penis.

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's constantly calling to him, like make more money.

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll get bigger. Yeah, you'll never be big as

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 3>you can.

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>And then they'll think I'm big.

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>So, between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty four, he had

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>as many as ten thousand active body accounts streaming the music.

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eighteen, he and his boy Hey released Tiny Penis.

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey release the Jazz album. They've moved on to jazz.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>They love Negro genres. Really, they're trying them all. They're like,

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 1>black people have been very successful with this. You can't

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>do a hip hop, let's try jazz a school but

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>bup and it hit number one on the Billboard charts.

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>They're out there, jazz album. What Yeah, But the next

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 1>week it wasn't on the chart at all. There were

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>no tweets or online comments about the songs on the album.

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey looked at Spotify's dashboard for artists and saw that

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>listeners appeared concentrated in far away places like Vietnam.

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Was jazz this huge Vietnam?

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh they love it in.

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam, schoop it about. Yeah, but yes, that's how they

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 2>won the war.

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 3>That is how they won the war. It was through jazz.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>It was through jazz. Yeah, that's what the movie La

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>La Land is all about.

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 3>It's about how jazz won the Vietnam War. Yes, yeah,

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 3>for the Vietnamese. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's when he started getting notices from distributors and

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>companies that handle the licensing of indie artists music flagging

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>their music for streaming fraud. Meanwhile, Mike was celebrating finally

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 1>making it big because he had something on Billboard charts

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>and they don't know how, but he did. And also

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>this the jazz Billboard charts. I feel like it's probably

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy to squel.

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 3>By Ranford Marsalis and noah, yes, yeah.

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe like Miles Davis just keeps coming back off

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>the charts, ye, you know, and then Mike bitches Brew

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>just is constantly a hit, you know yeah, and then

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Mike yeah was like Mike yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 1>goes Miles Davis, physical Lespie, Mike Yeah, the great yeah,

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>so elephant Gerald, Mike and Mike.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>So Mike is celebrating.

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Right June of that year, he shared a photo of

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>his Spotify stats on Instagram with two hundred and fourteen thousand,

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and seventy five monthly listeners and Mike loves

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to be specific. We've got his money down to the

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>scent here, and he said he had more than seventy

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>two thousand listeners on that specific day, and the caption

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was that's crazy and thanks to everyone who listens. Truly grateful. Hell,

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>look how humble he is. Wow, he's so humble.

0:47:58.719 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 3>He's so humble.

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>He said, that's crazy.

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you put in the work.

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not crime, that's no. Yeah, thank you for listening.

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Butts so.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Frod flags start popping up and Mike needed a new

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>tactic to keep from getting caught.

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 2>A billion fake streams for one song looked suspicious.

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Sure from Vietnam.

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from Vietnam where there's.

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Like four million people there total who loved jazz. Yeah,

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 4>who do love jazz.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 2>That's and they need to listen to it billions of

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 2>times a day.

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>So, but a fake billion fake streams spread across tens

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of songs, it's more difficult to detect. So

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence songs were still a new thing in twenty eighteen,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and Mike got in early, working with the CEO of

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>an AI music startup to create hundreds of thousands of

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>fake songs to send two streamers, once again AI.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Improving the He was really ahead of the game.

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>He really was when it comes to crime. He was like, hey,

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I definitely a scam. Let me get involved.

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.359
<v Speaker 1>And so in twenty twenty four Mike had made ten

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>million dollars with this scheme and that's when.

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>He finally got arrested by the FBI.

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Dang flew too close to the sun, honestly fake.

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.800
<v Speaker 2>The industry, music industry has so many scams going on.

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm like, why is he any worse than

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 3>anything else?

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And I would be on his side if he wasn't

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.800
<v Speaker 1>using AI you poison to black people in Memphis, to

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the scubay bop bops from Vietnam.

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 2>So we can't be serious. And now we have his

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 2>mugshot here.

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Shot. No, but he looks really alert, Yeah he does.

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 3>He looks the most awake anyone's ever been.

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>This was quite the sobering experience ye him because he's

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>looking directly in the cameras. It feels like the Mona

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Lisa scams, like the eyes follow you around? Yeah? Wow?

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.320
<v Speaker 3>That do you think they raided his house?

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>What were they gonna get? Probably the computers and stuff?

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah maybe?

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh man?

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And the AI songs have largely been scrubbed, but much

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>of the music Mic released is under his own name

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 1>and still wildly like available. The AI music startup isn't

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>named in court documents, but it was probably Boomy And that,

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.399
<v Speaker 1>finally is how Mike Smith became a famous man, which

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>is what he wanted from the start. So he got

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 1>famous from being arrested for making AI music and making millions.

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Off of it.

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Is he still in jail?

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, he was arrested in twenty twenty four. Oh yeah,

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 1>so you know it's twenty twenty six. He made music

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>history as the first person in the United States to

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 1>face criminal charges tied to streaming fraud.

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Who stole more music camer elvis?

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, we got we got a Mamma Thornton. No, that's

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a ooh on the right side of history.

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you, thank you.

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 1>You better be making a show with a black woman

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and know that that the elvis was ripping off everything.

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>He was a hand dog. But that was big Mama. Honest.

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Big Mamma Thornton was the name that they

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:54.879
<v Speaker 1>gave her a dream Girls And that's not actually her name.

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:59.399
<v Speaker 2>But we all we all know where I'm getting with this. Yeah,

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:00.320
<v Speaker 2>but yes he was.

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>He was really, even hardcore. Arrest documents say he fraudulently

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>inflated his streams on platforms like Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify,

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and YouTube music.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Poor guys, pour all of them.

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Can think of anyone look out for YouTube?

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Can anyone look out for q ball?

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Jests Nochede, justin would listen any kind of bald representation.

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 3>I'll take it.

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>You got Professor X.

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 3>That's right, it's yes, yes, it's always good.

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 4>When when Professor X is the first bald man people

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 4>think of the made up character. Think of a cool

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 4>bald guy. Well, I can't think of any that are real.

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Let me go to professor X.

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Damn. You're right, you're right. I thought of a real

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 2>bald guy. Yeah, my dad's they're bald, okay something.

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you're pulling off a lot of white people

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 2>can't pull off.

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Bald Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate that. It looks like

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you had a little bit too, did you know, Not

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.439
<v Speaker 3>as much as my wife would like, but yeah, gotta

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 3>do better.

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, the light coming from the state, Yeah shine, Yeah,

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 2>that's good.

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 5>So.

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>There have been reports that Smith's music Mike Mike Smith

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 1>also popped up on SoundCloud Pandora title now.

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 2>You Got Besay.

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 3>You knew she'd make an appearance?

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, bease perform one of the songs. I want to

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>hear one of the songs okay at uh Part part four,

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Part three, No, part three, part three, Yeah, part three.

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 1>You give us some scam as so and even boom Play,

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 1>a popular streaming service in Africa. So in response to

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like Spotify said it's preventive measures like caught Smith early,

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>minimizing the royalties they paid out to just sixty thousand

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.760
<v Speaker 1>dollars for Smith's own music and the AI generated tracks.

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, I love this.

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Spotify saying that they caught this early almost in a

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 1>way that like they were the fraud stoppers.

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like it was more than Spotify was like,

0:52:59.160 --> 0:52:59.720
<v Speaker 2>we don't.

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Like to give people money, so we had to look

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 1>into why we had to give him.

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Some that what it was and stop that.

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 3>It was just it. Red flags came up when they

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 3>had to pay someone. Yeah, that's what it was. There's

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with anything.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Other than that.

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:16.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a corporation, and it's corporations. Do we can't be

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 2>out of it?

0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Somebody burst into someone's off and said, do you know we're.

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Paying someone like a lot, like a wage.

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Can somebody fucking stop.

0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:26.280
<v Speaker 2>This fucking wage?

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Bro?

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 3>No, we got a kid after it, that's right.

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Pandora also said that they paid out fifteen hundred dollars

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in royalties to Smith, where Smith Robert Pandora, we love them.

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>It's really quite easy to pull off this kind of scheme.

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>You can look up videos on how to make fake

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>music on YouTube, and guides were creating bot listeners on Reddit.

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>What's surprising is that Mike Smith is the only end

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of viual who has been caught for it. That might

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>be because a lot of powerful businesses are also engaging

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>in this kind of fraud or at least benefiting from it,

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 1>so there's really no reason to stop it. Mike must

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to pised somebody off.

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was. It just like he didn't

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 3>cut them in. It's the mafia. It's like they didn't

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 3>get there cut It wasn't financially worth it for them.

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Right after him, he should have just made some phone

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>calls with some of these larger companies and made them

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 1>in on the scheme. Yeah, because maybe this helped with

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 1>quarterly reports. Absolutely, he becomes investors like are looking there,

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like look at ours, We are in the black and rising,

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and billions of people in Thailand love our platform.

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Number go up, number go up. That's right.

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>That's probably why they're quet about it.

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Number go up. Yeah. Yeah, they don't care how number goes.

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't care how number go up? Who number go up?

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go up? Exactly.

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So the down was a fifty thous that's right. Oh,

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Ye're worried about the war and food and the straight

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>hor move and then people get kidnapped on.

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 3>The streets thousand, fifty fifty thousand.

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>That means something to you.

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 3>We all know what that means.

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 2>You all know what that means. Every day, I'm like

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.760
<v Speaker 2>thinking about the doll and it was not a fifty thousand.

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:19.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, what's happening? Yeah?

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Why am I even alive?

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to live in a world where.

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 2>The ghetto. Yeah not everything else? No, no, no, no, no,

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 2>no doubt. So streaming fraud.

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Some have argued that Mike Smith is actually the robin

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Hood of streaming fraud, the little guy playing the same

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.439
<v Speaker 1>game the big labels play every day. I mean, ain't

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that wide Drake sewing his label because he said that

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they were streaming, ain't like they ain't like us?

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.799
<v Speaker 2>He said the label was running up the streams. He said,

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I know because we did it with my songs. And

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 2>they were like, how're you gonna sue about that? How

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:56.839
<v Speaker 2>you go sue?

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 3>You was like, yeah, when you're a part of the lawsuit.

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:01.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, because y'all did it to me when

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm also been doing this.

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's why I'm popular. Wait did I say that?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, So label streamers and distributors and rights holders all

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>make money on the royalty stream whether the song and

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 1>listeners are real or not.

0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Damn do we always start making fake music?

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<v Speaker 4>Well here's the thing though about calling him Robin Hood.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 4>There's the other part of robinho is that he gave

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 4>the money to the poor.

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, minor details.

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that part seems like it's missing.

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, he was giving his music to

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:33.959
<v Speaker 2>the ear poor.

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's true.

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 4>That's true for all the people who had to live

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 4>in a world where because at that time the doubt

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 4>wasn't at fifty thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>No, so we were shut down his medical clinics, right,

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>because did he shut him down? I don't know, but

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like, yeah, he's probably not also operating

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 1>getting this money from somewhere. So, but he wasn't there

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>anymore to see him obviously. So in current music, like

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the current music economy landscape, subscription and ad dollars for

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>music and streaming are pooled in one big pot, and

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>royalty money is allocated based on each artist's share of

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the total streams. BOT streams generate money for who's ever

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>behind them and leave less in the royalty pool for others,

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<v Speaker 1>which does not sound like Robinhood.

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 2>To me, it sounds like Robin artists. Yeah, you Robin

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the Hood.

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of with the scam until that part.

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially like smaller artists there already gets so little

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 1>for the streams. Like so Spotify itself has been accused

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of doing this, stacking their playlist with cheaply licensed music

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to rack up plays and take money out of the

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 1>royalty pool. I'm gonna stop you there, because every rap

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>listen before there was Spotify, before we had.

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 2>What is the one that I'm thinking about, that's like

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Orange SoundCloud.

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Before we had Spotify, Before we had SoundCloud, we had

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 1>rappers with CDs in the back of their trunks.

0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So now maybe Spotify is just creating a space for

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the rappers with the CDs in the back of their

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>trunks to get their music into the world.

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I remember, you know, walking down Hollywood Boulevard,

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 4>people handed me their CDs.

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I remember like a thing where we used to call

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>people SoundCloud rappers.

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in a way, I deeply identified with that because

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I think starting an acting career is just like starting

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a rapper.

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Career, Like we are SoundCloud rappers.

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get people to come to my

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>improv shows or watch me in this show. I'm in

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>it for thirty seconds at minute fifteen forty eight. Don't

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>miss it tonight on Fox.

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's tough because they've given them this opportunity,

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 4>but then they also pay them dogshit.

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, Mike Smith was a true fraudster.

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Even the actual businesses he used to bankroll for his

0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:57.920
<v Speaker 1>music label, reality show and fake bot streams. Oh no,

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>they were also a scam. We're getting to the end,

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 1>getting back to his medical businesses.

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Does he end up in one of his own urgent cares?

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like if he did, he'd get me out here.

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>No, they got his tongue depresses and Q tips and

0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody has.

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 2>A medical degree.

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Hell well, the same year one shot aired on B

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>E T Mike and his company calif Carolina Comprehensive Health

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Network sounds legit to me.

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Lots of words Carolina, which is.

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 1>A place, it's a place, and we can verify that comprehensive,

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>So they do, they can do. You need health, which

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is being what you want to go there to leave with.

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't want to be sick, No, you want health when

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you leave for sure, and network which is a lot

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of things things to get when you need it.

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a comprehensive network.

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:01.480
<v Speaker 1>They were accused of men care and medicaid from m

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<v Speaker 1>in two separate lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 3>See I didn't see that coming at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Whistleblowers and some of his clinics said that they were

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.800
<v Speaker 1>told to carry out tests and procedures that were not

1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:19.920
<v Speaker 1>medically necessary and then submit false reimbursement claims.

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<v Speaker 4>See this is why I always have a rule that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna go see a doctor who's also a

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<v Speaker 4>jazz musician.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know it. Might like them, they can improvise.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you know what that's true. It's the medications

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't describe.

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<v Speaker 1>Scoop it it by Bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know it could it could be a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the two losses claim that SMH Records directly

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<v Speaker 1>benefited from this fraud well due by September twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina Comprehensive Health Network, I was gonna say, compromise Help Network,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what it is now, had allegedly paid SMH.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's paying himself, robing Peter to pay Paul from

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<v Speaker 1>his own businesses. One hundred and fifty thousand dollars. In

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<v Speaker 1>September of twenty twenty, Mike settled one of the fraud

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<v Speaker 1>cases for nine hundred thousand dollars, while the other one

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<v Speaker 1>was dismissed as for streaming fraud. Mike is out on

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<v Speaker 1>bail oh and has pleaded not guilty. He could get

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<v Speaker 1>up to sixty years in prison if convicted.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that feels like a bit much to me. Sixty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's scheduled to be sentenced by a judge on

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty ninth, twenty twenty six, and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Judge, Judge Branford Marsalis.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that judge went to school at the Comprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>University Network and that he doesn't face any jail time

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<v Speaker 1>because this is pretty creative and when you think about it, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the artists are being harmed, but it's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>music first.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's like if you if you get robbed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like if your car gets the tires taken off

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<v Speaker 1>of it and somebody comes in later and steals your

1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:12.600
<v Speaker 1>air freshener.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like it already wasn't a working Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We were more worried about the tires.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh Smith, Mike Mike Smith has also agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>forfeit over eight million dollars in royalties he gained from

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<v Speaker 1>using bots to stream, and he's going to be paying

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<v Speaker 1>that out from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four. And

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you he's probably figured out how to get

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<v Speaker 1>his fake AI stream and service back up so they

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<v Speaker 1>can make some money to do so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this guy and AI haven't seen the last

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<v Speaker 3>of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, instead of smh, maybe it's SMP five hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's ahead of his that's right, he's just ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of his time, he is. He was just so like

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<v Speaker 3>a click too stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I wish he would have done

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<v Speaker 1>is like not use AI to make the songs. I

1:03:01.200 --> 1:03:04.320
<v Speaker 1>think it's a complete waste and we don't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>But and obviously he was covered on the show many times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna hop on some soapbox at the end here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wish that he would have just made terrible

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<v Speaker 1>songs all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's what everybody else does, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if it was just like the amount he

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<v Speaker 4>needed to make in order to spread these streams across

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<v Speaker 4>so many songs, and then finally he was just like,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't make them fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have kept remixing Want My Lipstick on a Dipstick.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, the most remixed song of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a jazz version. It's great. It's actually very classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm just floored.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday night. My mouth is right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what i'd be. Like, we put that

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<v Speaker 3>up up on Spotify and we see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we do, and we remix it, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>we also wrap.

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<v Speaker 3>It does feel like ai use is the real like

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<v Speaker 3>shit thing he did.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, I mean, I don't think you can. This

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<v Speaker 4>is just a personal opinion. I generally don't think you

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<v Speaker 4>can scam up.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA, Yeah, that is a huge prom to drop at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of this show.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, but I think it's like like you just

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<v Speaker 4>said earlier, though, like think about everything the music industry

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<v Speaker 4>has done to performers, Like, if you're scamming the music industry,

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<v Speaker 4>is it really a scam if you're scamming someone more

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<v Speaker 4>powerful than.

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<v Speaker 3>You, So you do agree you can scam up, I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't consider it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, in the technical term of scam, maybe but like,

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<v Speaker 4>in the spirit of scamming, I don't think it's a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you just threw me on a roller coaster. At

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<v Speaker 1>first I thought we were going to have to fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and Justin I was like, oh my god, I'm have

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<v Speaker 1>the break his glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Kick them a little bit, be right too.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, that's like the most ethereal way to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a scam. I say, scam up. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a scam. If you're scamming up, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>only a scam if you're scamming down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>The power dynamics have to be taken into account.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I say that all the time, but I've never

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<v Speaker 2>phrased it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really was a shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, some people crash the cars. I'm sorry, y'all bill it.

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<v Speaker 1>To Justin's insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, yes, it is, but oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here, Justin, and for

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<v Speaker 1>offering so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me. This is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And would you like to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell anyone where you can be found and where they

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<v Speaker 2>can watch see read.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I have a novel coming out called Get Lost

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<v Speaker 4>that comes out July seventh. I think it is a

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<v Speaker 4>fun beach read. One of the characters is a big scammer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love a beach tread. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a fun kind of other daughter story.

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<v Speaker 4>Father is a yeah, kind of a big scammy scammer,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit a piece of shit, and him and

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<v Speaker 4>his daughter have to find the missing mother.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I'm definitely going to be beach reading.

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<v Speaker 3>This, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm excited about it. And uh, if if you

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<v Speaker 4>watch Abbot Elementary.

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<v Speaker 2>If you watch, if you've heard of it, if you

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<v Speaker 2>watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Please watch Abbot Elementary and Harley Quinn on HBO Max.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all it as absolutely And y'all, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking Justin's book, get Lost to the beach, bring scam

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<v Speaker 1>goddess as well to that. I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a beach read. That might be more of a hospital

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<v Speaker 1>waiting room read, you know those wait times alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my book you can read and you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost with some sand on your toes with Justin and

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<v Speaker 1>then when you get sunburned and you gotta go to urge,

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<v Speaker 1>you goddess, and you'll love it. You'll love it the

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<v Speaker 1>entire way, guys, you can watch Going Dutch streaming now

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<v Speaker 1>on Hulu, new episodes on Thursdays, and you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>the first season of Scam Goddess on Hulu as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Get into that I might have something else in store

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<v Speaker 1>for y'all soon, hekay, Congregation, I want you how to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and stay licking them noopsticks.

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<v Speaker 2>Scam Goddess.

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<v Speaker 1>Scam Gottess stars and it's hosted by me Lacy Mosley

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<v Speaker 1>aka Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica sis Neros, and

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<v Speaker 1>our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show

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<v Speaker 1>is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay Skimming