1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 2: This is up on game. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 3: Fock Bye Hushbazada for the touchsdots. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: This is the show for you V two with LeVar 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: aary tet TJ, Hush Benzada and Plaxico Burres TJ. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: I love the way you break the game down. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 4: L A Man, you were jacking by my squad number 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 4: two overall and that's nine and. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Plaques man, you are seven five seven product. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 5: Ain't everybody who flat was growing up around her? 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Many agree of the best to ever do it on 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: and off the field. Live from the tire rack dot 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: Com studio, So Fox Sports Radio, here's pro bowlers LaVar 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: Airy tet TJ, Hushmnzana and Silver Bowl champion Plaxico Burres. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: All right, welcome into our two. We're broadcasting live from 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: the tire right dot Com studios ti right dot com. 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: We'll help you get there unmatched selections, free shipping, free 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers tyrec 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: dot com the way tire bind should be. I just 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: figured I'd bring us into this nice smooth, mellow voice 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: into our two because well, I got some nice smooth 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: mellow dudes that I do to show with Won by 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: the name of Well Flexico Burst. They call them Stretch 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: Armstrong as the hero that protects humanity from evil and 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: the other known as well. We know him affectionately as TJ. 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: Hushman's out of otherwise known as the superhero panteen Man, 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: because while he's protecting and saving he keeps a very 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: clean and cool head of shiny hair that's pulled back 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: into a ponytail. Pause. Anyway, let's get to going with 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: this show and let's talk. Let's talk about what we 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: got going on here, fellas. I want to lead off 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: with the Travis Hunter. Well, no, you know what we're 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: going to do. We're going to save Travis Hunter and 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: we're going to save Cam Newton. And let you know 35 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: what we're going to do. Let's talk a little bit 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: about how old head can impress and help a young 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: buck and teach them. Both of you have been in 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: this situation in scenario before, and this week's guest on 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: Legendary Moment, we had this very conversation about one Peyton Manning. 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: This week's legendary moment comes to you, Marshall Folk. 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: Conversations with a legend and now this is your legendary moment. 43 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: I heard the stories about how you, in a lot 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: of ways were indirectly responsible for the success that Peyton 45 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 3: man was able to have as a can you because 46 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: what one thing that people may not realize sometimes is 47 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: how cerebral and how intelligent players are outside of the 48 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: quarterback's position. But you were one of those guys that 49 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: when people talk about Marshall fault, they talked about your 50 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: understanding of what was taking place with the defense, how 51 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: the reads looked, how the game worked, and that played 52 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: a major part in Peyton Manning's adjustment and adaptation to 53 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: the league. 54 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, understanding and listen, Peyton's Peyton's stavant. Sure, but when 55 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 6: you when you have somebody and you can have those conversations, 56 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 6: and Peyton and I we be sitting, you know, it's 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 6: like this here in He's like it looks like this, 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 6: you know cover what do you think? 59 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, you got it? 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 6: Like that's that's it's oh, there's no no, no, hey, the 61 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 6: safety's rotating. Uh, this this will this will probably be 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 6: there's probably be three he's gonna drop down. So just 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 6: having those conversations and in film study and preparation, he 64 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 6: and I we literally saw the game through the same 65 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: lens and that relationship in that Bond year one being 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 6: there for him because a lot of times he didn't 67 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 6: have a lot of time, so you hit the checkdown, 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 6: you hit the checkdown, and he was seeing things a 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 6: lot faster learning than what I loved about Peyton, and 70 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: I had nothing to do with this was that rookie year. 71 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 6: He made a mistake once and he never made it again. 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 6: If he made it once, you couldn't get in with it. 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 6: And it literally, I mean he turned into what he 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 6: became after I left, because he really, really really dove 75 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 6: into us communicating, making sure we were on the same page, 76 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 6: and that became his thing with everybody. He was a 77 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 6: full on communicator with the center, offensive line, receivers, everybody 78 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 6: knowing what was going on and didn't care if the 79 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: defense heard it. 80 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: I gotta say it, it's always amazing when you get 81 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: to talk to guys that have accomplished at the level 82 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: that a Marshall Folk has accomplished. That I get the 83 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: opportunity to do a show with two guys that have 84 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: done it at as high level as it gets, and 85 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: you know what, I know for certain that you guys 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: have played that role at certain times in your careers 87 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: as well. I mean, either one of you take it. 88 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: But can you think of a moment in time where 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: there was a player in particular that you had one 90 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: of these illuminating, you know, relationships with being with them 91 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: as a younger, aspiring player and just the things that 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: you know, you guys kind of talked about. I can 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: recall me and Sean Taylor, and not because it's Sean 94 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: Taylor because everybody knows him as the famous football player 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: that was the greatest ever and stuff like that. But 96 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: I thought the coolest thing about my relationship with Sean 97 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: when he came in was the off the field aspects 98 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: of it and talking to him about how being a man, 99 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: that a better man would ultimately make him a better 100 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: football player on on the field and what those things 101 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: looked like, you know, just simple things in terms of 102 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: your daily regiment and how you view yourself as a person. 103 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: And we had so many cool like conversations offline. You know, 104 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: he come over to the crib, we hang out, we talk, 105 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: and it became one of those things where you know, 106 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: I felt really good about the impact that I was 107 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: having on him. Chris Clemens is another one that comes 108 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: to mind. We talked a lot about what happens on 109 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: the football field and our starts. And if you remember 110 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 3: Chris Clemens, you remember he had that patent four point stands, 111 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: and I mean he was a rocket, a missile coming 112 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: out of his stance, and I like to believe that 113 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: was conversations that he and I had. He asked me 114 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: the reason as to why I went into a four 115 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: point stance versus just having a conventional three point stand 116 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: stance when I go down as a defensive end, and 117 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: there was a lot of reasoning behind it. Me I'm undersized. 118 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: I was undersized to be on the line of scrimmage 119 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: as a defensive lineman. So I knew coming out of 120 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: the stance like a track sprinter, because I ran track, 121 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: coming out of the stance a certain type of way. 122 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: I was going to try to get my three steps 123 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: off that snap as fast as I could, and it 124 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: kept me low so that if I wanted to, if 125 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: I got a field enough, I could either dip underneath 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: the outreached arms of the lineman or it just really 127 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: really forced that offensive lineman to have to really kick 128 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: and stress him out to get out there to try 129 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: to cut me off, and it usually gave me a 130 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: two way go. Those were the type of conversations me 131 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: and Chris used to have. How did that play a part? 132 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: And play to run? How to play a part? And 133 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: playing the past DA, so on and so forth. Who 134 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: did you guys run into that? That type of relationship 135 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: was the dynamic that you guys had. 136 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: I mean, for me, I've had a relationship with so 137 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: many of the younger guys and it didn't matter the 138 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: position when whether it's on the field or off the field. 139 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: You know, because when you get to a team and 140 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: you're the young guy, all you really know are the 141 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 5: guys that you've seen on TV or the best players 142 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: on the team, and so if they don't welcome you. 143 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Then you just kind of, you know, just feel your 144 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: way around the team. 145 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: And so I always made it a point, man, when 146 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: I became a starter, that all the rookies we would draft, 147 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 5: the free agents, I always introduced myself to them, always 148 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: made them feel welcome because it's like a new kid 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 5: going to school. 150 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Although we're all grown. 151 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 5: Man, there's a into uneasiness when you walk into a 152 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: locker room and you don't know anybody, and so I 153 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: would always try to make them feel welcome. But as 154 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: far as like mentoring them and trying to be there 155 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 5: for him LaVar I pretty much did that with so 156 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 5: many guys. 157 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: That's why to this day I still. 158 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 5: Talk to him, We still communicate because I was always 159 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: trying to be that guy that would help him on 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: the field and off the field. If if you're out 161 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: there with no family, you can come to my house 162 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: for Thanksgiving. Trying to give them advice on how to 163 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 5: manage their money. And it was simple advice. Live every 164 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: year like you're gonna get cut the next year. So 165 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: if you think you're gonna get cut and on spend 166 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 5: your money. Very simple. What should my budget be? Your 167 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: budget should be about this amount per month even in 168 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: off season. Like it's not that difficult. But that's who 169 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 5: I always try to help guys. That's just who I 170 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 5: am by nature. Even to this day, I still help 171 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: try to help God. I believe that's one of the 172 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 5: most important things you can do, is try to help 173 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 5: somebody that needs to help and just be kind of people. 174 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm cool with everybody until you not cool with me. 175 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 7: M h. 176 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: Man. 177 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 7: You know, I know Marshall Man very well and I 178 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 7: get a chance to hang out with him a couple 179 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 7: of times a year on the on the golf course, 180 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 7: and you know, try. 181 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: To say, Marshall cold on the golf course better than. 182 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 7: Is he better than me? They said, golfer. Okay, Marshall 183 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 7: to night, super nice. I mean, he's a competitive golf 184 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 7: as buff. He's really he's really really good man, Like 185 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 7: he's really good. But uh, you know, just listening to 186 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 7: what you're saying, man, I think the first person two 187 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 7: people that come to mind. Man, it is just the 188 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 7: money Dawson, you know, so you. 189 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: To you and who took you under their wing? 190 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: Right? 191 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: Okay? 192 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 7: I like that many Dawson and Room betters me coming 193 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 7: in as a rookie, not me, you know, mentoring the 194 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 7: guys that came in after me. I'm talking about my 195 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 7: mentorship and watching the way that he went about his business. 196 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 7: He was already a first ballt Hall of Famer when 197 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 7: I got it. He was in his thirteenth season, and 198 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 7: I remember taking the knee beside him in the troll. 199 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: Man. 200 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 7: He always had great conversation for you, man, outside of football, 201 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: and he said to me I was a rookie. He said, man, 202 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: what do you love about this game. And before I 203 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 7: could say anything, he said, I'm gonna cut you off 204 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 7: right there, he said. He said, I come out here 205 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 7: every day and I give everything that I have to 206 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 7: see my brothers have success. And it blew me away. 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 7: I was what twenty one? I had just turned twenty one, 208 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 7: And to watch the way he went about his work 209 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 7: every day, just like TJ said, Man, you would have 210 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 7: thought this dude was trying to make the football team. 211 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 7: And he was a first ballot Hall of Famer with 212 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 7: his resume and everything that he had already accomplished. And 213 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 7: Jerome Battis Man watched the way they went about their workman, Uh, 214 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 7: the way they prepare. He's like, man, why is a 215 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 7: running back have to you know, take down notes? 216 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 4: Man? 217 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 7: All they doing is giving him the ball and he's running. 218 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 7: But the way that they went about their work every day, man, 219 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 7: the way that they prepare, it made me a better 220 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 7: player from a preparation standpoint going into the games, you know, 221 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 7: every every Sunday. Because I'm sitting there looking at these guys, 222 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 7: I'm like, man, I'm the eighth pick. I'm the highest 223 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 7: draft pick in still a history, and here I am 224 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 7: sitting sitting here beside these two guys were first ballot 225 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 7: Hall of famers, and their giving effort every day on 226 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 7: a football field, and their preparation and their preparations as 227 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 7: if they gonna get cut tomorrow, just like they said. 228 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 7: And that was my mentorship for me, you know, coming 229 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 7: into the league, and I kind of just you know, 230 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: just passed it on down to everybody else. And that's 231 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 7: why my preparation was as a player. And I used 232 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 7: to tell all the I to tell all the young guys, man, listen, 233 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 7: when you get to this level, I've seen them. I've 234 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 7: seen them all fast, big, short, tall, jump, whatever the 235 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 7: case may be. But if you're not prepared, man, when 236 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 7: you step out on that football field and you don't 237 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 7: if you don't have an idea of what you're supposed 238 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 7: to be doing. I seen some of the best athletes 239 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 7: in the world get to that level and couldn't even 240 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 7: play the game of football because they had no idea 241 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 7: what they were doing. 242 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: That's a good word, man, Hey to all y'all out there, 243 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: pay attention to the people that are trying to give 244 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: you game. That's why we call the show up on game, 245 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: you know why, because well we're trying to give y'all 246 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: game so that y'all could have success in y'all's lives, 247 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: not make the same mistakes we made or have the 248 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: same successes that we've had. It's a beautiful thing, man, 249 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: and it's a beautiful thing that Marshall Folk had some 250 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: time for us to talk and chop it up about that. 251 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break. On the other side 252 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: of the break, we're gonna talk Travis Hunter and we're 253 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: gonna talk Cam Newton. We're gonna put the two together. 254 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: We're gonna mash them up. Even though it's two separate conversations, 255 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: it's pretty relevant because one is going to go very 256 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: high in the draft. We're gonna talk about what has 257 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: been listed about him, and we're gonna talk about another 258 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: who went high in the draft, and well what he 259 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: had to say about why he went high in the draft. 260 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: You know, you won't want to miss the kind of 261 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: the feedback on that one. The perspective on that one 262 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: be pretty interesting to hear. You're listening to up on games, 263 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: t J. Huschman's Eyes, Plexico Burst. I'm LeVar Arrington. We'll 264 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: be right back. This is Fox Sports Radio. 265 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 266 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 267 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 268 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: listen live. 269 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: Welcome backs up on game. We're live from the Tyreck 270 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: dot com studios. 271 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: It's t J. 272 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: Huchman's outa, It's Plexico Burrs. I'm LeVar Arrington. All right. 273 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: In moments, we're going to talk about what Cam had 274 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: to say about the locker room when he got drafted 275 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: to the Carolina Panthers. But first, here's what I had 276 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: to say fellas I was on the show. Obviously, I 277 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: do two pros and a cup of Joe during the 278 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: course of the week with Jonas Knox who comes on 279 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: immediately following our show, and Brady Quinn, the famed legendary 280 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: quarterback of Notre Dame. This is what I had to 281 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: say about the conversation surrounding one Travis Hunter coming out 282 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: and it being labeled that he will test as a dB, 283 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: will be listed as a dB, not as a receiver. 284 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: And I can't wait to hear y'all's response, because I 285 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: know y'all gonna have a different, a different thought of it, 286 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: but or maybe you won't But here's what I had 287 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: to say about that. Yeah, he's not going to be 288 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: a two way player, like what a true way two 289 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: way player represents, like what he did in college. That's 290 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: just not going to happen. I mean, that's that's the 291 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: reality of it. It would take a perfect storm, you 292 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: know what it would take. It would take Deon Sanders 293 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: coaching at the pro level for him to be a 294 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: true two way player to get that opportunity. That's just 295 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: not how it works. So the worst thing that could 296 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: possibly happen to a Travis Hunter is he not settle 297 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: into what his home position is. You can use him 298 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball, but if you 299 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: try to to like muddy those waters, I just don't 300 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: think that that's good for his his opportunities and his 301 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: development to have true success at the next level. Like 302 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: there's been some really really talented guys that have played 303 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: both ways and really have had the opportunity to both 304 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: ways at times at the pro level. But that's just 305 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: not ideal. It's just not that's you know, to me, 306 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: I think this is the right decision. I mean the 307 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: first first time, the first thing I think about is 308 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: like a guy like uh, who was a kick returner. 309 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: That was amazing. He went into the Harvard There you go, right, Uh, 310 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: Devin Hester could have played pretty much any position skill 311 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: wise on the football field. And it ultimately, if you 312 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 3: ask me, he was able to get into the Hall. 313 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: He was so extraordinary as as an athlete and as 314 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: a player. He was able to get into the Hall 315 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: of Fame. But it really kind of in a way 316 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: did not allow for him to have the type of 317 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: impact that he really could have had if he had 318 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: just had a position. And I don't know. I know 319 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: people will sit there and be like, well, that's what 320 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: it was meant for da da da da. No, it 321 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 3: really isn't. I could put him in there at times 322 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: to run ended arounds and different things like that. But 323 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: if that man can't really really settle into what you know, 324 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 3: mastering the to what it is he's doing at the 325 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: position he's playing, I think you do that, young man, 326 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: a disservice by by spreading thing like that. Go go 327 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: tej that that. 328 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Is so different. 329 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 5: I didn't mean to interrupt the recording, God, because we've 330 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: never seen this before with Travis Hunter. 331 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: But why have we never seen it before? You start 332 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: with the why haven't we seen it? 333 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 5: Because no coach is given a player and opportunity to 334 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: be a two to one player, two way player. Yes, 335 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: no coach is giving a kid an opportunity and the 336 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: and and it starts in high school because the majority 337 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 5: of these kids, they go to high schools where it's 338 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 5: almost like a college. And the fact that you play offense, 339 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 5: or when we came up, we're playing both sides of 340 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 5: the ball. You're the best player you're playing, You ain't 341 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 5: you really never come out the game when we came. 342 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: Best player in the country as a running back. 343 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying a running back. 344 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 3: And but I had no intention of playing no one 345 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: down of offense when I went to college. But that 346 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: was why I was rated so high coming out of 347 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: high schools because I was a tailback that ran for 348 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: over four thousand yards. I think we can go guys 349 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: could go both ways. If you saw that flex plex 350 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: we are. Don't need to forget who's on the microphones, 351 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: we on the mic stocket. 352 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 5: We've never seen this before. What he was able to 353 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: accomplish in college. I believe a team will give him 354 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 5: an opportunity to play both. I really believe that but. 355 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: As it will hold on as a true two way player. 356 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: No, no, no, he'll play. 357 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: He'll play what I must guess a maximum of fifteen 358 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 5: to twenty snaps of offense. If he's going to just 359 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 5: be a dB, he'll play fifteen to twenty snaps on offense. 360 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: And then if the impact isn't what they want, it's 361 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: gonna graduate. 362 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: Going to be. 363 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: How is it going to be the impact of what 364 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: you needed to be? How is it going to how 365 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: how does that work? 366 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Level you? 367 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: You you don't have to always have splash plays. But 368 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: when you watch the film Howard, how is the defense 369 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 5: reacting when you're in the game. How do they change 370 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: agmatically when you're in the game offenchematically? 371 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: Are they going to be afraid of Travis Hunter. 372 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: As as a No, they're not going to be nice 373 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: of them. 374 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying you got to take somebody. 375 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: You got to be Mike Tyson knocking everybody out in 376 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 5: the first couple of rounds of people. 377 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: To fear you. 378 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is is you're making my point. 379 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: You're not schematically going to be game planning to try 380 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: to take Travis Hunter out of out of the game, 381 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: out of the game plan and they just lined up 382 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: as a receiver. 383 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: And that's the case. It's offensive usage, I believe minimal. 384 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: It will be minimal, which means he's not a two 385 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: way player. Two way player is the down start and 386 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: he's coming in and he's he's listed as a receiver again, 387 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: listed as a corner. 388 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: But again, we've never seen this before. This is the 389 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 5: best two way player we've ever seen in college football, 390 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: at least since college and college football. Right, Yes, I 391 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 5: mean that was pretty good too, because the way history 392 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 5: he's done with Travis Hunter. 393 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: But it's because of the way they used him. 394 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 5: Right, Let's be clear and say, right, it's because of 395 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 5: the way they used him, exactly. 396 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: Trump, Charles Woodson was strapping down, he was strapping David 397 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 3: Boston and you name it. 398 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 5: Who's who didn't have it didn't have He didn't have 399 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 5: a time a tenth of the offensive production. 400 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: That's correct because he wasn't used as much. Right, He 401 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: did it on special teams. He break the games open 402 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: on special teams. He broke it open on defense, and 403 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: he did deliver on offense. All I'm saying is is, 404 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: when I look at it, the main factor here is 405 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: not looking at Travis Hunter as being different from guys 406 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: who have been able to do it at this level 407 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: in years past. It's the coach, like you said earlier on, 408 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: it's the approach to it. Now. Whatever it is that 409 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: Dion saw or he felt that made them confident enough 410 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: to make him a true two way player at the 411 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: college level, some would say it was necessity. Some would 412 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: say he was the best receiver that they had on 413 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 3: that roster. If they had a better receiver, maybe he 414 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: doesn't have to do that. You're not going to run 415 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: into that situation at the pro level, and if you do, 416 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: let's be clear here, fellas, if you do run into 417 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: a situation where Travis Hunter is so good that he 418 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: actually is going to start at the position on both 419 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: sides of the ball, then that GM needs to be 420 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: fired because you are supposed to have a player that 421 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: is good enough to be the starter at one of 422 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: those two positions, whether it's the cornerback or whether it's 423 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: the receiver. If you have one guy that's good enough 424 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: to go both ways and that's and you're using him 425 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: both ways as a true two way player, that GM 426 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: is not doing his job. And I have no no problem. 427 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 5: Saying coming into the league, and Prime is an advisor 428 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: in helping him along the way. Any team that drafts 429 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 5: him is going to promise that opportunity. So when you 430 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: promise somebody that opportunity, you have to follow through with 431 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 5: that opportunity. 432 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: You got to follow through with. 433 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: That because I know where he's going to end up 434 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 4: at it and it ain't gonna be good. 435 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: And so if you don't follow through on what is promised, now, 436 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 5: it's a problem. 437 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 7: So Travis un Travis Hunter is the best player. 438 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: He was the best playing college football. Last year. He 439 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: was the best. 440 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: Athlete on one rated player in the draft. 441 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 7: What I'm saying, what I've been trying to tell people 442 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 7: is that you know, I guess he has declared that 443 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 7: he's going to play the cornerback position at the next level. 444 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 7: But I believe and I know that his biggest impact 445 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 7: on the game of football at the collegiate level was 446 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 7: him playing wide receiver. And now you he goes into 447 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 7: the league, he plays he plays the cornerback position. I 448 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 7: don't think his impact on the game of football at 449 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 7: the next level playing cornerback is going to be what 450 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 7: it was in college. He's not going to have the 451 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 7: same impact on the game, because I mean, is he 452 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 7: considered Darrel Reeves, Is he. 453 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 3: Just had down corner? 454 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: Is he considered being a shutdown corner the next level? 455 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: Considering that some would say. 456 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: That instincts, his instincts are crazy, Yes, great instincts. 457 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: His natural ability on the side. 458 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 7: Of the football will make him a better player at 459 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 7: the next level instead of him playing wide receiver because 460 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 7: he's that crazy of an athlete. 461 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: I agree. 462 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 7: I really believe that his natural ability shows more on 463 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 7: defense than it does to him running routes, being you know, 464 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 7: telling him where to go sixteen yards twelve yards. It 465 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 7: takes away from his football game, him being a wide 466 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 7: receiver more than him being a natural athlete. 467 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 4: On the other side of the football. 468 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 7: But I don't believe that his impact what he did 469 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 7: in college will translate to the next level as far 470 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 7: as what he was able to do for the Colorado team, 471 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 7: and you were just saying about what team is going 472 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 7: to let him do that. I think the worst thing 473 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 7: that can happen to Travis Hunter going into this draft 474 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: if that the Tennessee Titans and the Cleveland Browns takes 475 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 7: your door. 476 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: Sanders and cam Ward one and. 477 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 7: Two it's not gonna happen. I'm just they both need quarterbacks. 478 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 7: If they do take the quarterbacks one and two and 479 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 7: Travis Hunter is sitting at three to go to the 480 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 7: New York Giants, they will not draft Travis Hunter and 481 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 7: he's going to end up in New England with Mike 482 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 7: Rable because. 483 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: That's not a bad I mean they would. He's a 484 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: guy that played offense at time, scored a couple of touchdowns, 485 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: some big touchdowns. I mean, Mike, Mike Rabel is a 486 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: very open mind. 487 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: I played seven years. 488 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: Of course, I think he would beg noowed. That might 489 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: be a destination that could help, you know, go in 490 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: the favor of Travis Hunter being you know, able to 491 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: execute on both sides of the ball. I just still 492 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: think that if it comes back to the bare minimum 493 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: of the genesis of the conversation, I think Travis Hunter 494 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: is best served as a player for himself. For himself, 495 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: you don't want to and and in a lot of ways, 496 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: I do think it is comparable to Devin Hester, because 497 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: Devin Hester was as crazy an athlete as I've ever seen. 498 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: Period like period, I mean people throw Bo Jackson out there, 499 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: you throw Dion I get that. But if you're asking 500 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: me athleticly, athletically, I was sitting and you were there too, 501 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: plex I was sitting in and uh and giant state. 502 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: On one time when that man was returning them kicks, 503 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: it looked like he had a tail, And I ain't 504 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: gonna lie like that is the most that is the 505 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: fastest I've seen a person move on the football field. 506 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: That was a person and not not something from like 507 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: the serengetti like. He looked like a real cheetah on 508 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: the field. Like it impacted me. I ain't gonna lie. 509 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: So when I look at the amount of talent he had, 510 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: Sure you could put Devin Hester out there and give 511 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: him go routes and fly routes and deep middle routes 512 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: or whatever it is. Run with him. See if you 513 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: could keep up with him, and he's going to catch 514 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: the ball if you give it to him in a 515 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: way where he can, he's gonna catch it. So you 516 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: could have played him on offense. You could have played 517 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: on my cornerback and he had the type of impact 518 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: that you needed because he was so much more of 519 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: a better athlete than everybody was. But at some point 520 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 3: it got lost. It got lost and you didn't know 521 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: what you were gonna use him as, and that became 522 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: his identity. Travis Hunter could run the risk. I'm just 523 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: being honest. At the pro level, if you think you're 524 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: gonna use him as a two way player, you know 525 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. We're using them over here. I don't 526 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: really like it this way. I want to tweak it 527 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: this way. You using him on this side of the ball. 528 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't really like it as I don't, but I get. 529 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: More time to spend with this guy. I get more 530 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 3: time to spend with this guy. Next thing, you know, 531 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: you're rotating him. You're rotating him. Your rotating I go 532 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: back here and receive kicks. You know what can you do? Punts? 533 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: Let's take you, put you back here, Let's receive some punts. 534 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: I guarantee you with all of that talent and that 535 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: skill you see Travis Hunter with, they are going to 536 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: be trying to maximize the usage of them. And before 537 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: you know it, you got a utility guy. And that's 538 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: what he gets labeled as as a utility guy, not 539 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: a corner. He's not a receiver. He's a utility guy. 540 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: You don't want that. I wouldn't want that for my kid. 541 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want that for me. 542 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 7: When you line past it, when you line Travis Hunter 543 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 7: up at at cornerback, he will be a better player, 544 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 7: on a better athlete than nine out of the ten 545 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 7: receivers that he's going to guard on a on a 546 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 7: on a every Sunday. And the upside for him is 547 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 7: that when he's playing the position, his natural ability when 548 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 7: the balls in the air, he turns into. 549 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: A receiver because he's a. 550 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: Receiver, he just turns into a man. 551 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 7: And that is that is his biggest upside versus him 552 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 7: playing cornerback versus wide receiver. So you said they should 553 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 7: use him in spot duty on defense, not on offense. Man, 554 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 7: he's a true cover corner with playing wide receiver with 555 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 7: wide receiver's abilities. 556 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: So it is his biggest strift. 557 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 7: As a player a spot duty as a receiver. You 558 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 7: start him as a corner, no doubt about it, TJ. 559 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: Start him as a corner. I mean that's what they. 560 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 7: A couple of screen passes, whatever the ca maybe, but 561 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 7: he's not a down in and down out wide receiver. 562 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: At the next level. 563 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: To me. 564 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: Is what does the young man feel comfortable at and 565 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: obviously by him saying he's going to do combine Jills 566 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 5: as a dB, that's what he views himself as. That's 567 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: where he's most comfortable. That's where he probably feels he 568 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 5: plays his best. It's natural for him, and so I'm 569 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 5: gonna go with what he feels his best because if 570 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 5: you enjoy a certain side of the ball more than other, 571 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 5: obviously gonna be more committed. It's gonna be more natural, 572 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: I will get better production. And so that's what I 573 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 5: would do. So to me, it's gonna be defense because 574 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: that seems like what he likes. But instinctually, he just 575 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 5: has things you can't teach. He has things that why 576 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: do he do that? I don't know. And that's why 577 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: certain players are better than other players, is because I 578 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: do something that I just do it. My instinct tells 579 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 5: me to do it. I don't have to be coached 580 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: do it. And so for him, he was blessed with that, 581 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: being able to process information quickly and do it right. 582 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: Now. I'm saying dB, because that's what he is saying. 583 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 5: We gotta we got to take into account when the 584 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 5: player is committed at a certain position, you're gonna get 585 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: more out of him. If that's what he wants to do. 586 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: If you force him to do something full time that 587 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 5: he doesn't want to do full time, I don't know 588 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 5: if that will pan out. And so I'm gonna go 589 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 5: with corner full time and let him play receiver part time. 590 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 5: But a month or so ago, I was saying, hump 591 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: land receiver because right now the top pay receiver is 592 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: making a lot more than the top paid corner. But ultimately, 593 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: I want him to have success, and I believe success 594 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 5: comes when he wants to play what he wants to play. 595 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, Well, he has done it the right way. 596 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: By the way, he has not been a problem. He 597 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: has handled even adverse situations where it was out of 598 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: his control. He's handled things in a very, very above 599 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: board manner. He's just at times he's just been a kid, 600 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: which is really cool. He's just able to be a 601 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: young man. He has built his brand, he has created 602 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: a podcast, he's done. He is the wave of the 603 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: future in a lot of ways, and he is a 604 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: monetizable brand. And I love what he's been able to do. 605 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: And I love the guidance that that Prime brought to 606 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: to that to his repertoire, his toolbox of who he 607 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: is as a person. So I'm excited to see what 608 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: he turns out. You know, they're saying he's only gonna 609 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: do dB drills. If he does anything at the combine, 610 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: I would love to see him run a couple of routes. 611 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: That would be some entertainment there, entertainment value and probably 612 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: would go to his advantage as well. But if he doesn't, 613 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: If he don't do anything, he don't matter. Dude is 614 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: a bona fide ball er. We wish him all the 615 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: all the best. We're gonna come back. We're gonna wrap 616 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: up the show with well his podcast. He did an 617 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: interview with Cam Newton. Cam had some interesting things to say. 618 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: His teammates had some interesting responses to what he had 619 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: to say. Cam came back had some double down on it. 620 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: You'll get to hear that. We're gonna wrap this one 621 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: up on the other side of the break. Make sure 622 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: shortly after the show you check out our podcast is 623 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: going to go up. If you missed anything on today's show, 624 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: don't worry about it, just check out our podcast. You 625 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: could search for up on Game wherever it is you 626 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: get your podcast from. Be sure to follow rate and review. 627 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: That's follow rate and review the podcast again. Just search 628 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: up on Game wherever it is you get your podcasts from, 629 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: and you'll see today's show. Post it right after we 630 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: get off the air. This is Up on Game. This 631 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Radio. We'll be right back. Crumkin Dead, 632 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: Crumkin dead, crunkin dead. Huh Crumkin dead. That sounded like 633 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: a crunk song right here, you know, like I want 634 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: them anyways. Uh yeah, welcome back in. This is Up 635 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: on Game. We are lying from the tyrack dot com studios. 636 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: It's TJ. Huschman's Eyes, Plexico Burst. I'm LeVar Arrington. Hope 637 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: you guys enjoyed the show. If you miss anything, as 638 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: I mentioned, just make sure you check out the podcast. 639 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 3: You know, rate, subscribe, do all that stuff up on Game, Fellas. 640 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 3: Before we get up out of here, Cam Newton had 641 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: something to say, said the locker room was full of 642 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: losers when he got drafted. He doubled down on a 643 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: couple of his teammates had some things to say. I'll 644 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: read them to y'all in a minute, but here was 645 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: Cam's double down on I'm interested to get a quick 646 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: reaction from y'all on what took place. But here's his 647 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: double down on it. 648 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 8: He was in that locker room that was too and fourteen. 649 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 8: Jonathan Stewart was in that locker room it's two and fourteen, 650 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 8: Ryan Khalil, Jordan Gross, Thomas Davis, John Beeson, Charles Johnson. 651 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 8: Those guys were in that locker room that was two 652 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 8: and fourteen. I'm not specifically talking about those guys. I'm 653 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 8: specifically talking about the culture that was there prior to 654 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 8: me coming into the locker room, right, and there was 655 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 8: a loser's mentality. Even the following year when we went 656 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 8: six and ten, there was a lot of losing mentality 657 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 8: that was in that locker room. 658 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: And that was you, including me. 659 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: So Cam's exact quotes was my issue is when I 660 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 3: was the first pick, I went into a locker room 661 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: of losers. Guys didn't know how to win, Guys didn't 662 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 3: know how to prepare. Newton said, they didn't take themselves serious, 663 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: to realize, like yo, we was two and fourteen. There 664 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: was a lot of two and fourteen in the mentality 665 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: of those guys. Now, a few guys came back and 666 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 3: they had some things to say. Uh Munderlin, I want. 667 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: To say Munderlin. 668 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: Johnson, A couple guys had to say he's like, listen. 669 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: For him to say that we were losers was a 670 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: slap in the face, says Munderlin, who had a career 671 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: high three interceptions into the ten. This was a team 672 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 3: who was two years removed from playing in the NFC 673 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: Divisional Round against Arizona Cardinals. That die, so on, so forth. 674 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: You get the picture of it. Steve Smith, if you 675 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 3: know that name. Of course, we all know Steve Smith's name. 676 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: That's one of those names where you say, I wonder 677 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: if Steve is still the type of dude that like 678 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: on site, Like if I see you in the street 679 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 3: after calling me a loser, I'm gonna slap you in 680 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 3: your mouth. And how that would work, because we've seen 681 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: how Cam Newton is able to take on physical, uh, 682 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, opplications. He ain't an easy win. If this 683 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: was your teammates saying that y'all was losers when you 684 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: came into the locker room, how would you have handled 685 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 3: this situation. I know we ain't got a lot of time, 686 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 3: but I'm curious to hear. 687 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 5: What y'allly some teams with some terrible records, this is 688 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 5: my belief. 689 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: It's when he said loser's mentality. 690 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 3: That's what I disagree with because we lost in Washington, 691 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: and I certainly you're just mental. 692 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 5: With the team that Sean is losing, and so you're 693 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 5: on a losing team. 694 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: But when you say mentality. 695 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 3: But why are you losing? Like to the point like 696 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 3: because it makes you think like your team is losing, 697 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: you're a part of a losing team. I mean you 698 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: are a loser for all anticipates. 699 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 5: You have the first pick and the are able to 700 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 5: draft Cam Newton because obviously you had the worst record 701 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 5: in the league. But what Cam did say was I 702 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 5: was a part of that losing mentality when we went 703 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 5: six and ten. 704 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: I was a part of that. 705 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 706 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 5: And so I just when you say mentality, that's coming 707 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 5: at somebody as who they are, because I was on 708 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 5: losing teams the majority of my time in the league, 709 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 5: especially in Cincinnati, and I look at myself if nothing 710 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 5: but a winner. I play anything, I'm winning. That's a fact. 711 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 5: We play video games, I'm win. We shoot threes for money, 712 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 5: I'm winning. 713 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 3: We go games, your record, what say, just a hey, 714 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: did y'all see that ig post? 715 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: I went to the Super Bowl. 716 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 5: When I wade tournament, y'all playing for second place? 717 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: And what I do? I won? 718 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, I want to Rolllex. I sure did 719 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 5: Spades game and I told he And when I walked 720 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 5: in there, I told everybody, I'm winning the tournament. Y'all 721 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 5: playing for second place. They thought I was just talking, man, 722 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 5: but I had to show them. And so when you're 723 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: on that team and you're Steve Smith and your TD 724 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 5: Thomas Davis, you take that personal. 725 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: Like bro, I was on this team. 726 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 5: Ain't nothing about me losing mentality, And so I get 727 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 5: where they're coming from. The mentality part of it is 728 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 5: the part where they don't like the losing team. 729 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: I get it. 730 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 7: Last word, place, you don't come into you don't come 731 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 7: in the league with losing mentality that they just want 732 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 7: good uh you know. 733 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: Collectively as a whole. But there's something I never experience. 734 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 7: I only had one losing season in my whole in 735 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 7: my whole career, my boy, So I've never went into 736 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 7: a locker room and be like, oh, this is wanted 737 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 7: to lose. But when I did come to New York, 738 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 7: they weren't very good. I think there was like four 739 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 7: and twelve, six and ten and four and twelve and 740 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 7: all that turned around PLEXT a couple of years, but 741 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 7: losing mentality as a bunch of guys going out there 742 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 7: laying on the line for each other every Sunday. I 743 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 7: don't believe that those guys that are losing mentality they 744 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 7: just weren't very good at. 745 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 3: A football won't Speaking of losers, you got Jonas Knox 746 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: coming coming up next, so make sure you stayed in 747 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: now you're not lose our best. This is a sports 748 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: radio to Flex LeVar. Were up out of here, man, 749 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: We'll check out this seing guy.