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Speaker 1: He's Ralph Amason and this is the PAC twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 1: All right, this week is a crazy week because there

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Speaker 1: was another coach fired in the PAC twelve, and that

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Speaker 1: is Carl the rail. We will talk about that. What

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Speaker 1: is Stanford's next move? With David Shaw? Go over Week

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Speaker 1: our power rankings, and for sure leave a five star

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Speaker 1: and of course we will address your issue or whatever

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Speaker 1: with the firing of Carl Durrell. Now, I think we

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Speaker 1: all saw this coming at Colorado, right, Yes, I saw

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Speaker 1: that this is gonna be Carl Durrell's undoing, and that

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Speaker 1: interim head coach. What the hell are they doing at Colorado?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I look at obviously it's a

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Speaker 1: eds from the Denver Post that that say, like, Mike

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Speaker 1: Let me be really clear here. The best defense in

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve belongs to Utah. They have surrendered seventy

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Speaker 1: two points on the season collectively. That is the best

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Speaker 1: Colorado is not only oh in five, they're oh in

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Speaker 1: five against an ever increasing spread. They're owing five against

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Speaker 1: the spread. Colorado is out here making people rich. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: whatever they make the spread, Colorado, don't, don't worry. They

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Speaker 1: will obliterate it. Uh When when when Minnesota was getting

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Speaker 1: like you would have thought that that would have been

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Speaker 1: could have worked out, YadA, ya, YadA. P J. Fleck

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Speaker 1: worst offense in college football. And they promoted the offensive

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Speaker 1: and Chance Nolan. It almost makes you wonder should we

430
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Speaker 1: just bring Jet Coletto back since he already does the

431
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: short yardage duties. Maybe maybe? Um, they ran the ball

432
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: okay against Utah. This is just Utah is just this

433
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: good uh. And I think that if you gave Utah

434
00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: hell last year, Kyle Whittingham started game planning the next

435
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: day and so it's they are running through people right now.

436
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: And I definitely respect, I really respect what they're doing.

437
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: The the emergence of Devon vleet Uh has made Utah

438
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: that much more dangerous. And I don't know, I think

439
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: Oregon State's gonna be all right. There were a lot

440
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: of people that were a lot higher on them than

441
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: you and I were, and we talked all offseason about

442
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: how the quarterback position was going to be the one

443
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: thing that holds them back. So no surprises for me

444
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: in this game. Um, I think we both took Utah

445
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: to cover last week, so I it but the fact

446
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: that they kept their foot on the cast pedal in

447
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: the second half was it was interesting. This is a

448
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: twenty one to three second half, Um, And it just

449
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: goes to show that that that Utah knows, especially after

450
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: that Florida game, they have to finish games. Yep, yeah, yeah.

451
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: I think that just like the Oregon game was a

452
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: wake up call for well that the Georgia game was

453
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: a wake up call for Oregon, this was definitely that

454
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: was definitely a wake up call for Utah as well.

455
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Because I got a chance to talk to um Kyle

456
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: Whittingham after that game, and he was like, listen, we

457
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: didn't stop the quarterback run. We didn't stop to run

458
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: well enough. I thought we handled the environment well. But

459
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: this is something that we got to grow from and

460
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: you know we and I thought that they were like yeah, yeah.

461
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: And Utah, who looks to play a conservative style of offense,

462
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't get in struggle matches. They knock

463
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: you to hell out, all right, Um, And going into

464
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: this week, I want to point out, going into this week,

465
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips was getting hype as one of the best

466
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: defensive players in Fact twelve. And what happens often when

467
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: you're getting right, that's called living up to to the hype.

468
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: He is He right now is like far and away

469
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: in the lead for the defensive player of the Year

470
00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: in the conference. All right, cal at Washington State. This

471
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: was a COW nine Washington State. This is one of

472
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: the seeing I feel bad right on on on some

473
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: level because I've had to because of this podcast and

474
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: because of my job, I've had to say some honest

475
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: things about some people that I like and their offensive

476
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: coordinator over at cow their defensive coordinator, and they're head

477
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: coach who are all Oregon guys. Two of them I

478
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: played with and one of them was my officsive coordinator

479
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. So it has hurt me and it's probably

480
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: hurt our relationships as well, because uh because yeah, because

481
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: I saw Justin at Pactwell media day and he was

482
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: the same, real happy with me and um and I

483
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: texted r o Ce. He text back, So I was like, well,

484
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's okay, you know, like I don't I

485
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: don't condemn them as people, but as football coaches, there's

486
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: a certain standard. He need to be better. And and

487
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: then and I've never said that Justin Wilcox is a

488
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: bad coach. Never, I just said I didn't didn't want

489
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: him coach in Oregon unless he was gonna be surrounded

490
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: by top tier recruiters. And I was like, there's no

491
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: way that he's gonna leave, you know, uh, Peter Sermon.

492
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: They're like, no way, no way. Who's one of his

493
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: best friends played with him at Oregon. There's no way,

494
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: and some of his other staff. So you know, it

495
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: is what it is, man. You He's got a situation

496
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: at Cal and Jack Plumber was efficient throwing the ball.

497
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: He was twenty three for thirty three and Washington States defense,

498
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: which has not been like super stout against the past,

499
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: just just did a just didn't get done. And cam

500
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Ward gave them two interceptions, gave them and Cal didn't

501
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. Cal didn't. Cal lost, Cow won

502
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: the turnover the turnover battle to to zero and lost nine.

503
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: And it's not Washington State has way better players than

504
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Cow does. Yeah, ten points off of ten possessions, ten

505
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: points off of ten possession, zero points possession, Oh my god.

506
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Nine that's right, less than a point per possession, buddy.

507
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: And they were in the game. They got to be

508
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: so frustrated. Their defense has to be so frustrated because

509
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: it was tennis seven three and a half two. It

510
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: was seven and three at halftime. I don't have anything

511
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: bad to say about Cal's defense here. There's just only

512
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: so long, you know, the defense was staying out there. Yeah,

513
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: your was optics has to help you out. They have

514
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: to help you out because they gotta. They gotta have

515
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: some quick decision stuff. For Jack Plummer too, because it's

516
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: not the long developing plays. He just gets hit and

517
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: then everyone he'll go out there and he'll run and

518
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: he'll give up his body more and it's just not

519
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: nothing's working out for him. So and this felt and

520
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: on the Washington State side, this is exactly who I

521
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: thought cam Ward was. He does good on the quicks

522
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: but when he has to sit back there and throw

523
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: the ball, he's not as efficient at it because he

524
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: waits on either people to be wide open or for

525
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: the play to break down so he can then you know,

526
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: ad lib, which he which that's where he's best, is

527
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: a ad living. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, we were told,

528
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: we were told Bernard was gonna show up this season,

529
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: and I think this is the first game where I've

530
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: really seen him do that. Yep, that's big. And so

531
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: if he if he's gonna be there, for for a

532
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: cam word um moving forward, then I think that you

533
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: know they're gonna have some big place yea and Cal

534
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: didn't run the ball very well, only ran for a

535
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: net thirty one yards. Uh Jaye and not did have

536
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: sixty nine yards. But this is just Cow's offense is

537
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: the thing that's holding them back. Yes, and it has

538
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: to be frustrating for Cow fans to keep running into

539
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: the same issue like their their offense has been a

540
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: problem for the last four years. Mm hmm. And this

541
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: feels like a you know, if you always do what

542
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: you're always done, you always get what you always got.

543
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Like you you you have to like they're like they

544
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: went from the complete opposite of sunny Dikes, where sunny

545
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Dikes could score, couldn't stop a nosebleed. Now they can't

546
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: score and and their their defense gives them an opportunity

547
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: to win. It feels like tone said, It feels like

548
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: tone setting. And this is a kind of ugly football.

549
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: You can play against teams that are better. You're either

550
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a team that you're better than stick around

551
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: because of you, or you're you're gonna muddy things up

552
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: for a team that is better than you. A s

553
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: U has been going through this hell and now you know,

554
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: cow has been doing it for longer than them. So

555
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. It feels like tone

556
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: setting from the top. They're gonna have to do something.

557
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: They they made a couple of o C hires that

558
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: didn't work out. Um, and you know, is that because

559
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: Wilcox wasn't willing to give well, you know, they're free,

560
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: free rein or what. Yeah, but they're they're also restricted

561
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: by money too, because when a guy, when your head

562
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: coach is making like three million dollars, it's gonna be

563
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: hard to get an OC that's under you know, that's

564
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: around six hundred thousand or less. Yeah, Like, that's gonna

565
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: be tough. So now you have to you know, so

566
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: now you gotta go with young guys, you mean, like

567
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: young guys who are new to the profession or first

568
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: time o cs. It limits your options. It's just frustrating

569
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: because you you're you have just out there in the world.

570
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: You got Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch to Sean Jackson, some

571
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: of the most exciting football players on offensive side of

572
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: the ball, Yeah, in the last fifteen years and that

573
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: and they're not able to like market that Yep, not

574
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: at all all right? Uh, the team that got his

575
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: coach fire and jet jet Fish out here. Who would

576
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: have thought that Jetfish got getting getting coaches fired? Um,

577
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: Arizona forty three, Colorado twenty. Dude, if if last, if

578
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: two years ago, I told you that Arizona prior to

579
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: Jeff Fish's first game actually, or even last year, at

580
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: any point, at any point last year, if I told

581
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: you that Arizona would beat a Pack twelve team by

582
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: twenty three points, would you have believe me? And I

583
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: think even prior to this season, No, prior to the

584
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: North Dakota State game when they were not favored against

585
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: an FCS and I and I said on this podcast

586
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: that the spread wasn't enough. I told you, man, je

587
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Fish got these dudes out there jumping. Man, he's doing

588
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the best possible job with what he has. If you

589
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: were having a bad day, or you were having a

590
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: bad year, there is nobody better to remind you of

591
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: it than Jaden Dolora. He don't always show up against

592
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: the best teams or the best schemes, but if you're

593
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: not on your ship, Laura, your life. He threw from

594
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: four and six touchdowns. That's why they fired the defensive coordinator,

595
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: forgot about the offensive coordinator. And they're like, yeah, but

596
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: we scored twenty points against Arizona. Their defense is awful.

597
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: But Arizona overall is getting better. So so while I'm

598
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: saying that their defense is awful, the team, the program,

599
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: everything around this is getting better. Like this is something

600
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: that kids want to sign up for. I'm telling you

601
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: this right now. From recruiting, they are out in these

602
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: streets buzzing, bro because they're like, oh oh, because the

603
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: recruits are like, oh, progress not perfection. And when you

604
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: have a when you have t Mac as a freshman

605
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: is contributing, Dorrian Singer as a walk on had a

606
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: hundred sixty then on scholarship. Now, but you're you got

607
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: a former walk on, a local from Pinnacle High School,

608
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: same high school as Spencer Rattler, nine catches for a

609
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: hundred sixty three yards and a touchdown. And then you

610
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: have Jacob Cowing, who they brought back home from U TEB.

611
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: And not only is he living up to the hype,

612
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: he very very much belongs in in like like he's

613
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: doing the things that we expected out of Jordan Addison

614
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: and Jordan Adison looks great, so like an exciting offense. Dude,

615
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: everybody eight. This is one of those games that if

616
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: you're Arizona, well their their backs aren't quite as quite

617
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: a quite as happy. But all the wide outs, oh,

618
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: nobody's upset. Nobody. They're all like, oh we're We're all

619
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: their top top guys. We're all here eating bro. Yeah.

620
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: And then you have Hunter Eccles who couldn't get on

621
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: the field at USC had a back and a half.

622
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: So then you you kind of open it up as like, oh,

623
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: this could be a transfer destination if I'm not you

624
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: know that it's just there. Hit the portal hard in

625
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: the off season, and they are gonna be people that

626
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: sign up for it, and then they're gonna be better

627
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, because they can point. They can point

628
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: to Jacob Cowing and Jayden Dolora the same way that

629
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: USC can point to Kayleb Williams and Jordan Anderson. They're like, hey, yo,

630
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: oh we need we need some corners. Yeah. Not everybody

631
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: could be a trojan If if they don't want you,

632
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: you're welcome here, all right. So is there anything worth

633
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: talking about about Colorado? Uh? Trevor Woods had twelve solo

634
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: tackles at the safety position. That's what that's like, Jordan's

635
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Simony su worst past defense in the country levels where

636
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: Simoni was having to go out there do all the

637
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: work himself. Oh my god. Yeah, you never want to

638
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: see a safety with twelve solo tackles. No, Nope. Fox

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Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Alright, Arizona State USC, this

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00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: was a game where USC just leaned on them. They

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Speaker 1: just leaned on him. This was a twenty one to

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Speaker 1: seventeen game at halftime and USC just like leaned on

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00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: him and was like, we're better than you, we have

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00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: better players. And it showed like I I didn't take

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00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: anything negative from you from a s U about this game.

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00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: I just thought that us USC had more more players.

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00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Like that was that was it. They just made a

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Speaker 1: few more plays and in the in the first half,

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00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is a game if as

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Speaker 1: you can get a stop in the second half, it's

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00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: a game that could go down to it. But nope. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh my takeaway from this game is I'm I'm an

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Speaker 1: Alakayla Williams believer, and I think I told you this

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Speaker 1: on the phone. There's maybe two dozen quarterbacks playing college

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00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: football right now that will eventually get an NFL start

659
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: of some kind. Twenty three of those quarterbacks could have

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00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: been the quarterback for USC in this game, and they

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00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: might have lost because they had some bad center players

662
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: and some bad packle play. Yeah, he just made play

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00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: like and the cod bar was he didn't. He didn't

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Speaker 1: go out there and make throws that you're like, oh

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00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: my god, like this is the greatest throwing up. He

666
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: just managed the game. He got away from sacks and

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00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: then just efficiently delivered the football all Yes, he did

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00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: have a pick, but he completed se passes. This was

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Speaker 1: just a I thought this was Caleb Williams best game

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00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: of the whole season because he didn't because he was

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00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: under pressure and he just delivered the football. But this

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: is going to be USC's undoing. This is why USC

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00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: will not go undefeated this year because of what we

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00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: saw the last two weeks. If Oregon State had a quarterback,

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00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: they would have won. If if a SU had a

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00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: if a SU had their team from last year. They

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Speaker 1: probably they have a good chance to win this game

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Speaker 1: in terms of talent talent wise, you know, and you

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00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: can keeping Marie Jones back there too. But if you

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00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: just give them all the players that transferred out, they

681
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: probably win this game because there is I mean, even

682
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: though some of them are on USC's team. I just

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00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: don't see like I thought USC should be credited because

684
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: they did exactly what they were supposed to do. They

685
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: had a good offensive performance, but you can't be okay

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00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: because they have problems blocking up front. Yeah, and and

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00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: if anybody actually sacks Caleb Williams because he's not Michael

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00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: Vick so he can't or Lamar Jackson where he can

689
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: keep We're like, You're like, eventually they're gonna get him.

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00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: But then you're like, no, it's Michael Vick. No, there's

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00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: going to be somebody that there or a couple of

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Speaker 1: teams that they run into that actually get Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: on the ground and he's not able to you know,

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Speaker 1: avoid all these secs and they're gonna lose or who

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Speaker 1: aren't surprised that they're like that that two seconds after

696
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: the snap, you're standing right next to Cayleb Williams. Some

697
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: of these defensive linemen are good at what they do,

698
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: but they they they they're they're not you. They're the

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00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: dog that catches the car. They don't know what to do.

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00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Once they get there. You're like, oh my god, because

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Speaker 1: they yeah, I'm here, Yeah now, so now how do

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00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: I sack him? Yes? Um, but it was it was

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00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: a gutsy performance by him. Jordan Addison once he has

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00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, he did a lot of

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00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: yards after catch stuff in this game. That impressed me. Um,

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Speaker 1: Travis Die, you know, it's a it's a it's a

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00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: it's a um, it's a tragedy and uh and a

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Speaker 1: triumph at the same time. Uh. And then just again

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00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: because he could be doing that at Oregon or I

710
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: feel the same way about Eric Gentry on USC's defense.

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Speaker 1: I just Oregans Oregon is happy with without Travis Die,

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00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: though they have a better back right right now, Bucky

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00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving is better than Travis Travis Die. All right,

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00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you uh cope, I'm not coping. I'm dead.

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00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. I could not be any more more serious. Bro.

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Speaker 1: There nobody in Oregon is crying tears about Travis Travis

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Speaker 1: die Nobody, not one single person there. I have not

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Speaker 1: one single Oregon fan. And you know I'm on the

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Speaker 1: boards of all of these of teams. Not one single

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Speaker 1: Oregon fan has been on on either seven or the

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Speaker 1: on three board. Maybe like, oh my god, I wish

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Speaker 1: we had Travis die back. We need him back in

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Speaker 1: the room. Nobody. Okay, all right, Well, I personally don't

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Speaker 1: like InTru conference trains. I want to see people thrive

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Speaker 1: where they go. They're more than welcome to do whatever

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00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: they want. But when I look at Jacoby Covington and

727
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, he could have been in that Washington secondary.

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00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: When I look at Eric Gentry, I'm like, he was

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Speaker 1: a freshman All American at Arizona State, and would love

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Speaker 1: to see him finish up on on on that. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I look at uh, Travis die and I look

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Speaker 1: at what he was doing Oregon, it would have been

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Speaker 1: cool to see him finish. Yes, yes, it would have

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Speaker 1: been cool. And he made a personal mistake by doing that.

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Speaker 1: And no, no, no, no no no no, and and and

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Speaker 1: the reason why I say that is because he's lost.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about after after football is over. He's lost,

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00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: like he has severed the tie with the Oregon. They

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00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: still fool with his brother, but they're like, oh you

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Speaker 1: you you are left you were one of Organ's sons. Yes,

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00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: but you're but you're not really a trojan because you're

742
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: just a higher gun at this point. So you're not

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Speaker 1: going to be embraced by USC and their network the

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00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: same way that you would have at Oregon, where you

745
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: would have been a five year starter. You would have

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00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: been regardless. And the only way you're gonna be embraced

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Speaker 1: at USC is if you do something that no one

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Speaker 1: else has done in ten years. And so you're not

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00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna be Reggie Bush. You're not gonna be Lyndale White.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna be o J. You're not gonna be h.

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00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: Charles White. You're not gonna be h. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be no. Know what I'm saying, Like, you're you're not

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00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a USC guy. So, well, I think you

754
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: and I are speaking the same way. You're You and

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00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: I are speaking the same language. Where I do think

756
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: that people don't understand the advantages that come with with

757
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: going through and not everything is in your control and

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00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: something is in this opportunity, Like yeah, he he would

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00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: have never he would have thrived financially after because because

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00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: he's not a long time in a NFL player. If

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00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: he makes the NFL, so what running backs are. But then,

762
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: but then, but then there are there are guys on

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00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: their team where I'm like, okay, I get it. Austin

764
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: Jones probably would have been wasted at Stanford, Brandon Rice

765
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: was being wasted at Colorado. But but my my, I

766
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: think my main thing is I do want to see

767
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: when when somebody makes a decision to go to a

768
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: PACT twelveth school, I wanted to work out for them. Yeah,

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00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: I want to work out for them. And when they

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Speaker 1: transfer in conference, and when you have like twelve of

771
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: them in a year, it just gets it just gets

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Speaker 1: dizzy ng. And every time I see a guy that

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00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: we've covered, um, I just you know, it's just a

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00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: reminder of what of what was I don't know. In

775
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: the same way there is on a state having an

776
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Xavian Valade because as a Wyoming fan, I'm like, ah,

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00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: and then U see as Solomon Bird, So Solomon Bird

778
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: was tackling Xavian Valida, and I was, you know, flipping

779
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: back and forth between watching Wyoming get beat. Uh, I

780
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: think by San Jose State and I'm like, this is

781
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: too much. I will say this about a s U.

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00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: They looked better. I think some things are working. Brian

783
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Thompson coming back and be in this is another intra

784
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: conference transfer from Utah. If he's going to give them

785
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: that deep threat, then that makes them a little more dangerous.

786
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: But as it stands right now, if I'm gonna be honest,

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00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: Emery Jones is the tenth best quarterback in the Pac

788
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: twelve and that's not gonna cut it there now, twenty

789
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: four straight games without a three hundred yard passer. He

790
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: had a few interceptions dropped in this game. He is

791
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: not doing what is necessary in my opinion. Yep, yeah,

792
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: that makes sense, all right. Next game up, we had

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Speaker 1: Stanford Oregon. When I looked at this spread, I was like, Oh,

794
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: this is easy work right right out here in Oregon.

795
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: You did say that, yeah that this felt like a layup. Bro,

796
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: And just like this weekend at Oregon minus thirteen at Arizona,

797
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: Bro that that's it's gonna be a layup. But this

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00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: Oregon team is Ever since that, uh, the Georgia game,

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00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: this team is averaging almost fifty points a game, Like

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Speaker 1: if you take away that Georgia gave their averaging fifty

801
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: points a game. The offense is going crazy. The defense

802
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: looks good. They are dominating lesser opponents. They are playing

803
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: like they have a bunch of five and four stars

804
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: high four stars on the on the field. Yeah, I

805
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: mean and vote Nicks does not have to be the superhero.

806
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: And when you can run the football, keep him in

807
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: goodtion situations, they're fine. But what Oregon did is in

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00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: the game against Stanford, which is not tenable at all,

809
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: was the amount of penalties, bro the The amount of

810
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: penalties was stupid. Fourteen penalties for a hundred and thirty

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00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: five yards, including like six false starts. Stop it. You

812
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: cannot do that. You will lose. Yes, you cannot do that.

813
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: You will lose against better football teams. If you do

814
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: that against USC or U c l A, you're gonna lose. Yeah,

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00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: so I feel you. I just want to point out,

816
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: uh surprise surprise after week one and what we saw

817
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: from Bounix and his fourth career loss to Georgia. Bo

818
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: Nix is on pace for thirty yards passing and seven

819
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing. So no, if he this up in

820
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: Oregon goes twelve and eleven and one. Oh, he will.

821
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: He will be in New York for the for the

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00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: Heisman ceremony, not not saying he's gonna win me. Yeah, maybe,

823
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: and then and then it would take some other people

824
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: falling off. I think and it, but I think people

825
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: are just gonna I don't think it's gonna get out

826
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: of people's mind what happened in week one. But it's

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00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: possible he gets to go if if if he keeps

828
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: doing this, because you also have to understand, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if he keeps doing what he's doing right now. Yeah,

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00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. A four thousand yard season with

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00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: I think forty touchdowns, don't that you're responsible for should

832
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: get you an invite if your play in a major conference. Yeah,

833
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: and if you're one of those teams that's eleven and

834
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: one and he keeps playing like this, he will get

835
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: an invite because that's because that's what they do. They

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00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: and you would be inside the top five at that point,

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00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: and you would have because of the way that things

838
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: are structured in the fact that PAC twelve is actually

839
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: getting some national respect. If Oregon was to go eleven

840
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: and one. It would include three to four wins over

841
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: ranked teams. Yes, yes, over Washington, Utah, potentially usc U,

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Speaker 1: c l A like yeah, all those things would would

843
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: definitely yeah. Yeah, that's why I say that, all right, So, um, Stanford,

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Speaker 1: Though people love Tanner McKee, I don't. He's he's a statue.

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00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: He's a statue. Can he throw the ball yes? Does

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00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: he throw a nice ball? Yes? Can he throw the

847
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: ball all the time? No? Because he can't get away

848
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: from anybody to extend to play. He's he's He's Caleb

849
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: Williams with cement shoes. But you're the one saying that

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Speaker 1: you liked that they took it upon themselves to adopt

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: the slow mesh stuff from wake Forest. I didn't think

852
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: it was. Well, they only do the slow mesh, they

853
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: don't do the rest of the stuff wake Forest does.

854
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: I thought that they were they only took that, they

855
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: didn't take the rest of the offense. Yeah. Man, he

856
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: gets hit a lot, and Stanford, I think it's been

857
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: a while. He was getting frustrated at the end of

858
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: the game. I would be too. It's funny because I'm

859
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: looking at Tanner McKee and Jack Plumber doing the Spider

860
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: Man mean thing right now, because they both throw such

861
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: a gorgeous deep ball. But you've gotta be more than that.

862
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: You gotta have escapability. You gotta make up for your

863
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: offensive line if they're not able to hold their blocks. Um,

864
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: and you've gotta have people that you can check down to.

865
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: And I just don't see that happening. And Stanford obviously

866
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: losing Smith at running back is oh yeah. And and

867
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: and Philkins every single time he touched touched the ball

868
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: after the play, Like, what what are you coming out for?

869
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Every single time you touched the ball? Bro? You gotta

870
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: suck it up, all right? Um, I don't know, dude,

871
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: because if you if you click on his profile picture,

872
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Does that look like a feature running

873
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: back to you? That looks like an equipment manager? All right?

874
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: So now onto our pack twelve power rankings for this week?

875
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: What do you have? From twelve to seven? Colorado firmly

876
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: in the bottom. There there's always one team just cemented

877
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: to the bottom. Yeah, I dut I thought long and

878
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: hard about this, but I do think Arizona State would

879
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: beat Stanford if they played this week, And so I

880
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: have a s you above Stanford, so as he's currently

881
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: in ten, um Arizona and ninth, but the distance between

882
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: nine and ten is enormous. Uh. And then I have

883
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: Cow at eight and Washington State at seven. Okay, we

884
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: have the exact same twelve to seven, except I have

885
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: Arizona and Cal flipped, even though Cal beat the ship

886
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: out of Arizona. Yes, yes, what and and I know

887
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: that that feels like a lot, right because the previous

888
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: week Cal beat them forty nine to thirty one. But listen,

889
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I think that after last week. I think that was

890
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: a bad game for Arizona. But but I can't argue

891
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: with with with your logic and net like they just

892
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: beat them a week ago. But I'm doing like a

893
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: a p pole voters where I was saying this week

894
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: though they were way better, they beat him. If you

895
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, they'd beat them. So I'm

896
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm acting like a pole voters. Yeah, so I'll have

897
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: my AP vote pretty so. Um, there's recency bias and

898
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: recency insanity. Yes, all right? Who do you have six

899
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: through one? Oregon State? Which is amazing because if they had,

900
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: if they had any one of nine other quarterbacks, I think,

901
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: did you give them ja. If you give them even

902
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: Jaden Dolora, there's a god. Yeah, or give them camp

903
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: cam Ward way better. But now imagine if you gave

904
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: them um Cam cam Rising who runs a similar offense. Yeah, yeah,

905
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 1: I agree. Uh, so I have I have Oregon State

906
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: at six, Washington at five, U c l A at

907
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: four because of results, and uh and then USC at three,

908
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: Oregon at two, and Utah at number one. I do

909
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: feel like the distance between one and two is almost

910
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: as big as the distance between eight or nine and ten,

911
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: Like you mean you take to me is way out

912
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: there right now? Um, just they're playing complete football games. Yeah. See,

913
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: now we are the same in your six to one,

914
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: except for I have, oh, Oregon State at five in

915
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: Washington at six. So Washington fell from one to six

916
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: bro for me last last week because I thought that

917
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: they had earned one, right, I thought that they had

918
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: earned one, but then they lost to a team that

919
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: I had fifth, So I'm like, I don't know. Yeah,

920
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: so yeah, and I have U c l A fourth,

921
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: USC third, Oregon second in Utah first all right, no, no,

922
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: now for this week? Well, actually, first, how did we

923
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: do last week with our picks? Because because we did

924
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: have a review that was like, do not listen to

925
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: their picks? Yeah, do not take gambling advice from And

926
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: I think that's more mainstream gaming advice because again I

927
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: went to the thing that all on our Friday picks

928
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: that we do. Um, I'm having the worst season of

929
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: all time. I'm usually around uh and this season it's

930
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: I was six and like thirteen going into this week.

931
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: So the one thing that I can always get healthy

932
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: on is finding unders to pick. So I went all

933
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: unders this week and I went one and I went

934
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: one and four. So like it sued, I, I don't

935
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: know what to do. But on the Pack twelve, then

936
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: we actually after two weeks ago going two and four,

937
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: we've both recovered. Well, you went five and one and

938
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: I went for him too. Nice nice, nice beta leader

939
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,080
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940
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,880
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941
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,160
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942
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,240
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943
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: All right, um, so you know, because you know, I

944
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: mean humble, humble, humble. Um, all right, So we have

945
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: five games this week. First, all up on Saturday, we

946
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: have you taught at u c l A what's the

947
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: line on this game? Utah and U c l A

948
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: currently has Utah minus three and a half on the road.

949
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, Now, can you ce l A strike twice? Right?

950
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: Can they strike twice? I am going to say no.

951
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: I am gonna go with Utah, but they're not gonna

952
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: get blown out. I think it will be like a

953
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: six point victory. So I got Utah minus three and

954
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: a half. I think Utah is the best team in

955
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: the conference. Uh, they have historically been bad in l A.

956
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: But they they are really think themselves of all of

957
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: their ills. They're just shedding off all of this stuff

958
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: that has been uh sort of the bugaboo for for them.

959
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: And they did struggle with Anthony Richardson's athleticism, but Cam

960
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: Rising also blew that game with an errand throw at

961
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: the at the end of the game. The Rose Bowl

962
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: is not going to be the same environment as the Swamp.

963
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be seventy and dry and fans so give

964
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: me Utah and I feel the same. It might U

965
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: c l A might keep it close, but I do

966
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: like Utah to to win by about a touchdown. Yeah.

967
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't see a scenario where USC ends up being

968
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: able to I'm sorry, well, I mean, well, I guess

969
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: there is a scenario where you ce l A wins.

970
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think that that is probably the most

971
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: likely scenario that that USC. I'm sorry that you U

972
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: c l A ends up encountering So do I they

973
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: can win? Yes? Do I believe they're going to win? No?

974
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: Because they win this game, DTRS confidence is gonna reach

975
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: a level that is like like like he's gonna think

976
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: he's Stanos and c l A may not lose again

977
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: if he reaches Stanos status. If what actually, if they're

978
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: able to be Washington last week, come back with Utah,

979
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: beat Utah, have a week off, and then if they

980
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: beat Oregon, Dude, he's then Thanos. He's then Thanos. USC's

981
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: going U c l A is going to the College

982
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: Football Playoff if they beat Utah and Oregon. Book it.

983
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Book it because because after that, who the hell is

984
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: gonna beat him? Stanford, Arizona State Arizona cal USC is

985
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: the only team that would have a chance to beat them.

986
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: The fact that you're thinking about a Path twelve team

987
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: going undefeated in conference makes me nervous because we don't

988
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: do that here. You're like, I don't know where you're from,

989
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: but are you new around here that it doesn't have

990
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: the black panther? Mean, we do not do that here alright,

991
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, so that's the pick. Next game, Washington

992
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: at Arizona State. This is a daytime kickoff, a one

993
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: pm Pacific kickoff. Um, what's the line in that game?

994
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Washington minus fourteen? Really USC only one by seventeen, right,

995
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: so it's it's gonna be and a SU had the

996
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: ball twice in the third quarter with the ability to

997
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: take the lead. Uh, and so it was closer than

998
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: the sevent teams, which suggests, Yeah, so it's gonna be

999
01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: ninety degrees on Saturday. M hmm, hasn't The temperature in

1000
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: Seattle is six those games in Tempe, Tempe, Phoenix, same place.

1001
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, yeah, So I was saying that that's

1002
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna be the the temperature in Phoenix. Temp Um, you

1003
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: said you said Seattle. No no, no, no, no, no no

1004
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: no no. I said it's Seattle. After So I was,

1005
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: I was just giving the reference for the temperature in Uh, yeah,

1006
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: it's in the So today it's sixty three, it'll be

1007
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: on Saturday, it will be seventy three there, so nineties

1008
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: a big difference at one o'clock. Ye, that's uh, it's

1009
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: in in the Dirk Jerseys. So get this. The last

1010
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: time that Washington one in Tempe, you were playing at Oregon.

1011
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: How many times have they played down there? That was

1012
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: twenty two years ago? No, no, no no two one season. Yeah,

1013
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: so that's twenty one years ago. So how many times

1014
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: have they played down there? Like? Eight? Maybe seven? Eight?

1015
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, including coming in as the number five ranked

1016
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: team in the country and losing to Manny Wilkins. Dude,

1017
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: the Arizona is the place where, like records and and

1018
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: and yes, yes, yes, Oregon had a dream die there

1019
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in thanks. Ye all right,

1020
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: so give oh, give me Arizona State all day. If

1021
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: this is a seventeen point line, I don't give me

1022
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Please give me all of it. This feels

1023
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: like lay up time. This feels like Minnesota minus twenty seven.

1024
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: This feels like Oregon minus seventeen last week. Mm hmm, yeah,

1025
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: lay up, bro. Arizona State has the longest streak in

1026
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: the country of not giving up fifty yard plays. Uh,

1027
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: and Washington is a big play offense. Something's gonna give

1028
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: their Michael Panics is not as mobile as as Kaylee

1029
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: Williams uh, and it's possible he's going to take a

1030
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: couple of hits in this game. Washington is by far

1031
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: the more talented team, but I don't see two touchdowns

1032
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: in Tempe Um. I don't think Arizona State's winning this game,

1033
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: but I definitely don't think it's too touchdowns. So give

1034
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: me Arizona State plus fourteen. Oh it's fourteen. I thought

1035
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: it was seventeen fourteen. Yeah, alright, Uh, fourteen is a

1036
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: little more, but I'm still taking Arizona State. Alright. Washington

1037
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: State at USC, if this game we're in the police,

1038
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: I would feel a little bit differently about it, but

1039
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: but I need to know the line. First. USC is

1040
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: actually favored by twelve and a half. That makes sense.

1041
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: That makes sense sort of because USC they throw the

1042
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: ball well. Obviously Washington State doesn't necessarily throw the ball well.

1043
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: But Washington State just extends plays and make stuff muddy.

1044
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: They make it muddy. Oh man, all right, I am

1045
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: going to go with Washington. I think USC ultimately wins

1046
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: the game, but I'm gonna take Washington State because as

1047
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: you saw against Oregon, they will keep fighting until the

1048
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: very last second even if they can't win. So they're

1049
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna crush the spread. Even if they're down by like

1050
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: eighteen with thirty seconds to go, They're gonna end up

1051
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: crushing this spread and breaking somebody's heart. Give me Washington State,

1052
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: I feel the same. Their only loss, obviously is you

1053
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: know Oregons come back. Um. Oregon was able to move

1054
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: the ball at will in that game, but you know,

1055
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: we know how it turned out. I think that the

1056
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: problem for Washington State is they'll turn the ball over.

1057
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: USC just isn't doing that. They're not. They've won to

1058
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: turn over this year. Uh So without extra chances, I

1059
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: don't see a chance for Washington State what you did there.

1060
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: But twelve and a half is man, it's right there too,

1061
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: because I can see a thirteen point when like clear

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01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: as day, I'm still gonna stick with Washington stayed on

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: this one. Going with road dogs is always tough, especially

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01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: multiple road dogs. So hopefully there are not too many

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: more of those I know, right all right, the next

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: game up Oregon at Arizona. This is definitely not a

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01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: road dog. Um. This game is on pack twelve Network.

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: Oh so I didn't even tell you guys. So the

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: you utah U c l A is on Fox with

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01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: Tim Brando and Spencer Spencer Tillman. Washington Arizona States on

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: pactwe of Network with j B. Long and Lincoln Kennedy. UM.

1072
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: Washington State and USC is on Fox with Noah Eagle

1073
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 1: and Mark Helfrich Um. The Oregon Arizona games on pactwe

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01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: of Network with Ted Robinson and Yogi Roth, and the

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Speaker 1: Oregon State Stanford game is on ESPN with Mark Jones,

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01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the Third and Quent Cassate uh Kin. Alright, so,

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: Oregon Arizona, what's the line on this game? Oregon is

1078
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: a thirteen point favorite. This is an absolute layup. Give

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01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: me Oregon all day, easy work. They're probably gonna win

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01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: by twenty four? Do you think so? Yes? All right, Well,

1081
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: because you just jumped to Arizona above cal and all

1082
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: your excite been about what they what they were able

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: to achieve. Just swim swimming in the deep end here, buddy,

1084
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, it's in Tucson and it's

1085
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: at night. It could be tough. Maybe, I don't know.

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: It's thirteen is a lot the over under seventy yes, yes,

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: so so so if the over under a seventy right,

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01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: So if you split that in half, this thirty five each,

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: you take thirteen away, so that gives them twenty three.

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: So that's twenty three to wait no, no, no, so

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: that ends up that starting Yes, so that's thirty five

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: minus seven is plus six, so forty one so eight okay,

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: but you'll put you right under right, Yeah? Okay, uh,

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: that actually feels res but but yeah, I'm like, I

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01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: got like forty five which would put you right. Yeah,

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01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: I want to go with Arizona in this game. But

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: but but you know who? You know who calls plays

1098
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: for Oregon? Kenny dialing him he wants a job. And

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: you know what, and you know what state? This game

1100
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: is being played in, Arizona? This is audition. Oh my god,

1101
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: he isn't he might be having a meeting the night

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01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: before the game. Why why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he

1103
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,480
Speaker 1: Arizona states at home? I'm telling you they are seriously

1104
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: considering Kenny dialing it. They are Arizona state? Is he

1105
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: is on? They have an internal list of stuff they're

1106
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: looking at. I'm not sure they're going to go to

1107
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: the route of the search firm. They're taking to Kenny

1108
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: Dillingham things seriously and Kenny, Kenny Dillingham coming to the

1109
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: state of Arizona when the Arizona State game is gonna

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: be over, and so everybody in Arizona who has the

1111
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: back to one network is going to be able to

1112
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: watch Kenny Dillingham work against the team they hate. This

1113
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: is important for him. So I guess give me Oregan,

1114
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: give me Oregon hate it but nice Alright, last game

1115
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: on the slate, Oregon State at Stanford. I don't care.

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01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't care about this line Oregon States winning this

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01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: football game. Well, actually their quarterback play steaks bro. What's

1118
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: the what's the line's Stanford favorite? No? No, no, it's

1119
01:12:51,280 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: Oregon State by seven on the road on ESPN for

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: everybody to watch. I cannot believe the Oregon Ares on

1121
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: a game isn't the one that's on national TV. The

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Oregon State. After the last two weeks of

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01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: playing an obscurity, now they get a national televised game. Hey,

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't want last week's game televised, but

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: they did want the USC wouldn't tell televised. All right,

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: do you know what do you want to do? You

1127
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: want to know why this game is important, Why the

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01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: loser is going to be at least oh and three

1129
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: in Pact twelfth play Because Stanfords oh and three now

1130
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: in Oregon States oh and two. Oh, that doesn't matter,

1131
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: neither neither one of these teams was winning the conference anyway.

1132
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: But but it does. This is this will be a

1133
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: bad loss for Oregon State because this puts their Bowl

1134
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: chances at sketchy. Yeah, because they're three and two right

1135
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: right now. This will give him a fourth win, which

1136
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: will put them squarely at an opportunity. All they need

1137
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: is two wins out of their last six games. Two yeah,

1138
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: as opposed to needing three when you have like Washington Oregon,

1139
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: Washington State left on the schedule. I think they still

1140
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: got cal and um yeah, yeah, it could get sketchy.

1141
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: So this is a a game they need to win

1142
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 1: if they want to go to a ball game. Yeah.

1143
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: I think the way to beat Oregon State is to

1144
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: overpower them. Uh and I don't see Stanford doing that.

1145
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: So I like Oregon State to win. Seven on the

1146
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: road is a lot. But what choice do you have

1147
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: the other option is to go with Stanford, and that

1148
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: feels like we'll ride with Oregon State and I am

1149
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: to do but but but I will say, I don't

1150
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: love it. I don't love it, alright. So the last

1151
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: thing we have to talk about the is the Arizona

1152
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: State and their head coaching job searching job. You mentioned

1153
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: that Kenny Dillingham is on the short list. Is Brennan

1154
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: Marion even being considered for this job? He is? Who

1155
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: do you think they end up? Who? Who else is

1156
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: on the list? Shawn Iguano, who is the interim head

1157
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: coach right now? Yes? And then I think that there

1158
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 1: are some some other outside the box guys that they're considering.

1159
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,919
Speaker 1: I don't think they've thrown away the idea that Jonathan

1160
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: Smith would leave Oregon State. But to me, why why

1161
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 1: would you go? Like I don't I don't understand the

1162
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith thing and he gets floated out for every

1163
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: single job. I don't get it. I think he's in

1164
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: the perfect place for him. UM, but his offensive coordinator,

1165
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Brian Lindgren is somebody who they might look at. Uh.

1166
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: And also former University of Virginia head coach Bronco men

1167
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: In Hall is someone I think that they're taking a

1168
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: serious look at Bronco has had He did have some

1169
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: success at Virginia. But that's the other part about a retread.

1170
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: So Virginia wants to win, So like, why do we

1171
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: think it will work at a s U now right?

1172
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: And what I worry about is is bringing some You

1173
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 1: want to bring in somebody who's just gonna do the

1174
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: right thing. You don't want to bring in somebody who's

1175
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody last night about this and I said, look,

1176
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: whoever comes to Arizona State, they're they're gonna need to

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: basically have a presentation ready on compliance. And what that

1178
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: person said back to me, because we were talking about

1179
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: Brenda Marian. What that person said back to me is

1180
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: the answer just needs to be how you do anything

1181
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: is how you do everything. I do anything is how

1182
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: you doing everything. So any candidate that is approaching the

1183
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: Arizona State job that isn't a hundred percent all in

1184
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: on the idea of being compliant, UH is going to

1185
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: be somebody that they dismiss outright. It has to be

1186
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: a priority for them. It just shouldn't be the only thing.

1187
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: There's so many things that need addressed at Arizona State,

1188
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: whether it's you know in UM in state recruiting, re

1189
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: establishing the footprint of UM of Arizona State, maintaining the

1190
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: academics which have continued to get better and better. But so,

1191
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: but here is my here is my current proposal, because

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: we still don't have the notice of allegations delivered from

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01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: the n C double A right, Ray Anderson came out

1194
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: and he said, we're gonna give Sean I. Guano an

1195
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: honest crack at this thing. There is no such thing

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01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: as an honest crack at being an interim head coach,

1197
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: because how are you going to recruit as interim you?

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01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 1: You literally can't do it. Shann Iguana just had seventy

1199
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 1: of the top players in in Arizona high school football

1200
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: out at practice yesterday. Here is here is what I'm

1201
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: going to float. Because the notice fake allegations has not

1202
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 1: been delivered yet, I think it might might behoove Arizona

1203
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: State to extend the interim tag through the end of

1204
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: because that's what an honest shot at well or or

1205
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: what you could do is, and that that that's actually

1206
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: not a bad idea to extend the interim tag. But

1207
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: what a is she is gonna have to do is

1208
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: probably give him a content whoever the new head coach

1209
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: is a contract like they gave Josh Hype over at Tennessee.

1210
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: They like, listen, we know allegations are coming, Like we

1211
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: we know this, so we are going to guarantee you

1212
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: enough money and guarantee you enough time to fix it

1213
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: and to deal with whatever penalties come down the pipe.

1214
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: That way, we can't fire you during during this time.

1215
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: That way we tie ourselves enough to you. That way,

1216
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: you have enough time. So I think that that's what

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01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: Arizona States going to have to do if they want

1218
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: a good head coach, They're gonna have to be like,

1219
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: all right, look, you can take this job, and we

1220
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: know that this situation sucks, but we will make sure

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01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: to give you the time, resources and energy to give

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01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: you a chance to be successful. I agree, I I agree,

1223
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: and and and at the same time, based on the

1224
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: seriousness of some of the stuff that they're facing, UM

1225
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: and the idea that they said they were going to

1226
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: give Shawn Iguano a shot, I don't personally believe that

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: nine games against you know, with three ranked teams at

1228
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: the very beginning of that schedule UM and and no

1229
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: ability to be able to tell the recruits that are

1230
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: part of how you're going to be judged that you're

1231
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: actually gonna be there next year. I don't think that's

1232
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: an on a shot. So either they need to say

1233
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: thanks for your service, Shawn Iguana, but your tenure is

1234
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: up at the end of this year and we're moving

1235
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: forward without you, or they need to seriously consider the

1236
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: fact that these allegations are coming down the pike and

1237
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: they need to give him one more year to figure

1238
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: out if if he can actually do uh an in

1239
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: person proof of concept moving forward. That's the way I feel.

1240
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: It will never happen, but that's the way I feel

1241
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 1: about it, because uh to say that you're judging somebody

1242
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: based on if they can collect some players and get

1243
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: them to commit to you, when you're not even gonna

1244
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: be able to tell those players whether you'll be back,

1245
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the thing that precludes those players from

1246
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: committing to you. So I don't know. I just I

1247
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: want them to be up front and honest with Sean.

1248
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: I guant on this guy care about a lot, and

1249
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: I want to see him have success whatever his next

1250
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: step is UM. But I do know they are taking

1251
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: the name Kenny dolling him very seriously, and Brenda Marian

1252
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: as well. Um, and that Bronco Mendenhall is somebody that

1253
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: for what he did at b y U at Virginia

1254
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: is someone that they would they would strongly consider. But

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01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: the issue for Arizona State now becomes you can have

1256
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: guys on a short list, but now you have competition.

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01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: It's it's one thing if you're three three candidates for

1258
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: one open job, but now Colorado is open, and Georgia

1259
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: times open, and Nebraska is open, and Wisconsin's open. Because

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01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: one of the guys, I would have said, if Wisconsin

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01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: hadn'ta fired, I would have said, throw the bag at

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard. Yeah, he's gonna go home when the when

1263
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: the time comes. But like that's a dude that you

1264
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: definitely would want for because you know your your your

1265
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: defense is going to be trill trill entertainment television. All right,

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Speaker 1: you guys, I'm George Raiser, He's Ralpha Amaston. That's the

1267
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: PAC twelve Apostles. Hopefully you guys have a great weekend,

1268
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: enjoy the game, share the podcast with a friend, tell

1269
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: everybody about it, continue to grow, peace out catch you

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Speaker 1: guys later.