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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 2: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard,

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Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Never figured his chair out. What's going on Sunday?

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Speaker 2: Is an opportunity for your team to kind of go

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Speaker 2: in there and to go place to place in prime

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Speaker 2: time marquee match up and.

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Speaker 3: Make an impact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure every time we get to you know,

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Speaker 4: step out on the field as an opportunity for us.

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Speaker 4: So looking forward to it, looking forward to a matchup

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Speaker 4: divisional opponent which is always you know, a good one

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo, and so definitely looking forward getting ready this week.

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Speaker 4: Had a good day of practice yesterday and so looking

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Speaker 4: forward for the matchup on Sunday, for sure, how does

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Speaker 4: one defended MVP front runner like Josh Allen obviously having

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Speaker 3: What do you really do against some much as your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just as a defense, obviously got to play discipline football.

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Speaker 4: The little things right over and over and over again,

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Speaker 4: because he can make you pay, definitely with extended plays

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Speaker 4: them is really just being disciplined, which we've done that

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Speaker 2: For the defense in the last game.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so for us, it's really about, you know, last

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Speaker 1: How would you describe where you guys are fundamental slides

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Speaker 4: Where would I describe that? Yeah, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: The John mentioned yesterday that Josh Allen made a big

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for us, it's about not giving a big place,

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Speaker 4: If you if you're up there taking away the check down,

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Speaker 4: it's really container the quarterback stopping a run, giving up

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Speaker 4: that's kind of how I would say, Marcus, how.

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Speaker 3: Tough is it to defend their run game? Sorry?

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Speaker 4: So you definitely obviously there's uh, you know, you can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think every week, you know, you learn something

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Speaker 4: So I like, as as human beings, we try to

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Speaker 3: So I can't afford to have a bad day with

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Speaker 3: some of the struggles this year. Are you just trying

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Speaker 1: Just trying to stay on the same approach that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you again, you have to adapt.

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Speaker 3: Of course, that's the ability to manufacture pressure.

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Speaker 2: How would you assess your group's eye disciplined in recent weeks?

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Speaker 3: I disciplined.

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of the one of the fundamentals

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Speaker 4: We work those fundamentals every day. So and we'll continue

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Speaker 3: But where the Patriots are concerned.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done and let's get it

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Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done.

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Speaker 2: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can

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Speaker 2: move along.

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