Speaker 1: Fail touchdown, Miami Run? What is up? Dolphans And welcome
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Speaker 1: going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on
Speaker 1: today's show, the Draft previews continue. We're talking to Jordan
Speaker 1: Reed of the Draft Network to break down this class
Speaker 1: of defensive backs. We'll talk about Miami's own dbs and
Speaker 1: what we look for here in South Florida, will break
Speaker 1: it into tears, tell you who the best press cover
Speaker 1: corners are, the best corner safety converts, and a whole
Speaker 1: bunch more with Jordan's plus Peter Schreker dropped in mock Draft.
Speaker 1: We're gonna discuss that I lift, my five favorite moves
Speaker 1: of the offseason, and my latest show and streaming recommendation station.
Speaker 1: All of that and a whole bunch more. This edition
Speaker 1: of the Drive Time Podcast presented by AutoNation. So Peter
Speaker 1: Schreeger broke Dolphins Twitter on Thursday morning with his latest
Speaker 1: mock draft where he goes around and talks to people
Speaker 1: in the league, people in the know, and tries to
Speaker 1: get the most accurate depiction of what he thinks could
Speaker 1: happen on draft night. But he also gives you a
Speaker 1: bit of a disclaimer and saying that this is the
Speaker 1: best I can do with the information that I have.
Speaker 1: He's not standing by of the way, just talking about
Speaker 1: different scenarios. And that's why I like about this mock
Speaker 1: draft from Peter Schreeger is that it prepares you for
Speaker 1: different possible outcomes. In this year's draft, he has Miami
Speaker 1: at number six, taking Northwestern offensive tackle Rashawn Slater, who
Speaker 1: has played inside a guard before as well so an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that can play multiple spots. He is fluid
Speaker 1: as all get out, a great pass protector, had a
Speaker 1: great tape against Chase Young a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. A lot of folks are gonna point
Speaker 1: to that tape and say, this is the best tackle
Speaker 1: in the draft for my money. Moving up from twelve
Speaker 1: to six a tackle, it could be. It could feasibly
Speaker 1: be an option. I don't see it personally, but we'll
Speaker 1: find out what happens come draft night. I do happen
Speaker 1: to like the tackle class at pick eighteen a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: And someone posed this question to me in the mail
Speaker 1: bag last time around about who is the best pure
Speaker 1: right tackle in this class, and to me, that's Tevin
Speaker 1: Jenkins out of Oklahoma State. He is a mahler, a finisher,
Speaker 1: a barrier. You heard us talk about this on the
Speaker 1: Wednesday podcast with Joe Marino breaking down the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Tuesday, I forget talking about this offensive line
Speaker 1: class and and Tevin Jenkins. I told him that Brandon
Speaker 1: Thorne and Brett Coleman, two of my favorite analysts in
Speaker 1: the NFL draft industry, in the breakdown industry, that they
Speaker 1: have Jenkins number two behind Pine Swool, and Joe Marino
Speaker 1: just got out of his chair and started applauding that
Speaker 1: because he loves Tevin Jenkins as well. I think eighteen
Speaker 1: could be a great spot if someone like Jenkins, someone
Speaker 1: like Christian Dery Saw falls to that position. But I
Speaker 1: do wonder if your move up from twelve to six
Speaker 1: would be four a tackle who possibly could be there
Speaker 1: at number twelve, if not a rock solid consolation at
Speaker 1: that spot at pick number twelve. So that's my thought
Speaker 1: on the Peter Schreeger mak, I want to get to
Speaker 1: this real quick before we welcome in my guest today,
Speaker 1: Jordan Reed of the Draft Network my top five offseason
Speaker 1: moves so far from Miami, and this will change post
Speaker 1: draft because we have so many picks to make, and
Speaker 1: of course an elite prospect probably coming our way at
Speaker 1: number six if Miami picks in that spot. My number
Speaker 1: one offseason moves so far will Fuller. I just think
Speaker 1: the things he adds this offense from my dynamic standpoint
Speaker 1: from I stretched the field standpoint to force defenses to
Speaker 1: play two high safeties and really take a lot of
Speaker 1: attention away from the underneath game. But also the savvy
Speaker 1: route running of this guy's game. He is so crafty underneath.
Speaker 1: He excels on the routes that I think too or
Speaker 1: throws best. He can separate, he can make big plays
Speaker 1: after the catch. To me, he has everything you want
Speaker 1: and a number one wide receiver number two. Adam Butler
Speaker 1: talked about this on Twitter on Wednesday a little bit.
Speaker 1: How his explosion his first step off the line drives
Speaker 1: so well with this defense. Is thought process of getting
Speaker 1: so many bodies up on the line, create confusion in
Speaker 1: the possible pass protection scheme, and then send bodies in
Speaker 1: different gaps and confuse the O line. And Adam Butler's
Speaker 1: first step quickness, his get off really really accentuates what
Speaker 1: Miami does when mugging up those two linebackers in the
Speaker 1: A gaps. You put the onus on the center and
Speaker 1: both guards to communicate quickly and effectively to get that blocked,
Speaker 1: and his first step quickness helps that tenfold. He's my
Speaker 1: second favorite offseason move. Number three is right in that
Speaker 1: same vein with Bernardrick McKinney, because he can do so
Speaker 1: much in those A gaps both as a blitzer as
Speaker 1: a run defender. He's a traffic cop out there. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get the defense lined up, he's gonna have his
Speaker 1: run fits nailed down, tough, and I think the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are just saying basically, good luck running the football. Honst
Speaker 1: this year with both Adam Butler, but Nardrick McKinney, Brand Scarlett,
Speaker 1: all these guys they made additions for in that front seven.
Speaker 1: Number four offseason moves so far with signing Matt Skura,
Speaker 1: I talked about his tape a little bit. His pass
Speaker 1: protection and run blocking wind rates on ESPN the only
Speaker 1: or one of four centers and twenty nine and tw
Speaker 1: twenty to be top ten in both of those categories.
Speaker 1: His twenty nineteen tape is very very good, powerful guy
Speaker 1: that can get movement, can anchor and pass protection as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about Matt Scura a number five. The
Speaker 1: addition of Justin Coleman as a slot cornerback, a guy
Speaker 1: that can play both inside outside physical press. He doesn't
Speaker 1: he has that confidence You're gonna hear Jordan Reid talk
Speaker 1: about here in just one second. Good ball skills as well,
Speaker 1: fits in the running game too. So those are my
Speaker 1: top five Offsason move so far for your Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, Adam Butler, Mcnageric McKinney, Matt Skura, and Justin Coleman.
Speaker 1: And with Justin Coleman, let's pivot here and talk about
Speaker 1: defensive backs. And before we do that real quick there,
Speaker 1: one of the goals of this podcast is to dispel
Speaker 1: some of the myths. I mean, you guys heard the
Speaker 1: two A tongue of my lower podcast earlier in the
Speaker 1: week talking about quarterbacks and some of the misnomers about
Speaker 1: two was game out there right now? Something out there
Speaker 1: about big plays and deep balls and allowing too many
Speaker 1: explosive plays with his defense, Like where where did that happen?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't see it happened. Most of the years
Speaker 1: Dolphins were so rock solid through Gerald Alexander's just preaching
Speaker 1: the message. The big place happened to the secondary. Bobby
Speaker 1: McCain's presence back there. He was so fluid it getting
Speaker 1: over the top and coverage, passing off coverage, finding his
Speaker 1: landmarks and getting to the football making big plays as well.
Speaker 1: So Bobby McCain, for my money, was one of the
Speaker 1: best players on the defense last year, on the team
Speaker 1: in general, and I think he is so important and
Speaker 1: so critical and so crucial to this defense and has
Speaker 1: come so far from his development as a free safety,
Speaker 1: and to me, he looks great back in that position.
Speaker 1: So just wanted to get that out there before we
Speaker 1: pivot now to my conversation with Jordan Reid of the
Speaker 1: Draft Network to break down this Dolphin secondary, this upcoming
Speaker 1: draft class in the defensive back room. He's also going
Speaker 1: to explain to us some of the techniques and some
Speaker 1: of the ideas behind certain packages plenty in this interview
Speaker 1: here with Jordan Reid and joining us now on the
Speaker 1: Drivetime podcasts, NFL draft analyst at the Draft Network, the
Speaker 1: host of the Read Option podcast. He's not that Jordan read,
Speaker 1: but he is Jordan read. Jordan, thanks for coming back
Speaker 1: on the Drivetime podcast. Man, welcome in, No problem drivers.
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure being you're talking about with one
Speaker 1: of our longtime friends of the podcast here. I want
Speaker 1: to say, Jordan, you might have the most guest appearances
Speaker 1: by anyone not named John kN Jemmy are fellow multi
Speaker 1: media analysts here on the Dolphins website. I think this
Speaker 1: is like your third or fourth appearance, Man leading the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm losing account. Man. I love talking about the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: so it's always a pleasure. I always love your Twitter,
Speaker 1: you know, basically going back to twenty nine team and
Speaker 1: they began to just accumulate draft capital and you always
Speaker 1: had positive things to say. So we appreciate that here
Speaker 1: with the team with the podcast network. Before we get
Speaker 1: into this real quick, Jordan's scouting season has been wild
Speaker 1: this year, you know, different than any other year in
Speaker 1: the past. How has it been for you so far? Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely been different, just because it feels like you're
Speaker 1: playing catch up with a lot of these guys. Just
Speaker 1: because the way we run our department is pretty much
Speaker 1: the same as far as the NFL team, So we
Speaker 1: actually split into regions this year, and we split it
Speaker 1: up by conference, so I'm responsible for the SEC, the
Speaker 1: big twelve fcs, and then some D two and three
Speaker 1: three schools as well, So we didn't have the normal
Speaker 1: access is what we always have. And if you think
Speaker 1: going back to last year when the pandemic really it
Speaker 1: was around March and the Combine had already happened, and
Speaker 1: a lot of important things on the calendar had already
Speaker 1: happened as well. But with the pandemic happening now as
Speaker 1: when it did happen like Markie April of some sort,
Speaker 1: you're kind of playing catch up just because you don't
Speaker 1: really have as much access to the fall. And then
Speaker 1: in the spring, we didn't have the combine, and really
Speaker 1: your first content with a lot of these guys was
Speaker 1: during the postseason All Star games, so it feels like
Speaker 1: you're a little bit behind, but now you're starting to
Speaker 1: catch up with Pro Days and things of that nature happened.
Speaker 1: I feel like I fell behind during the season because
Speaker 1: of all the guys that just opted out, plus working
Speaker 1: for an NFL team sometimes Saturday is a little bit busy,
Speaker 1: but having guys like you come on the podcast here
Speaker 1: and educate us. That's what we're looking for here as
Speaker 1: we gear up for this draft now just three weeks away. Jordan,
Speaker 1: it seems like it comes by faster every single year,
Speaker 1: and last year didn't have other sports to entertain us,
Speaker 1: like the n stable A tournament or the starter baseball
Speaker 1: season or the NBA playoff push here, so things are
Speaker 1: better here. And typically we have Jordan on to talk
Speaker 1: about orderbacks, skill players, something on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. But Jordan, I want to just go ahead
Speaker 1: and first start with this. We're gonna have you talk
Speaker 1: about defensive backs on this podcast. And we talk about
Speaker 1: this on the podcast previously with Brian Flores and to
Speaker 1: a tongue of Valoa and having that defensive minded coach
Speaker 1: and and Flora's will tell you. The first thing he'll
Speaker 1: tell you is he's not defensive mind. He's a football coach,
Speaker 1: but he does direct some of the best defenses really
Speaker 1: in recent NFL history. And so I think having that
Speaker 1: perspective of hey, I'm gonna talk to my quarterback about
Speaker 1: what the what the defense wants to do to you,
Speaker 1: that's kind of my idea here. So when you think
Speaker 1: about that from the quarterbacks lens, how much value is
Speaker 1: there and having that offensive experience in your in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind when evaluating defensive players, it means
Speaker 1: a lot just because they're studying pretty much that side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Whenever you're you're inside of the game
Speaker 1: and you're studying structures of defenses in your outlining, and
Speaker 1: you're seeing who is circled on scouting reports, so you're
Speaker 1: always going to be aware of the dbs and where
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on the field end. As a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you already know that the safeties really are the tail
Speaker 1: tale as far as the coverage here, there's some coverage reads,
Speaker 1: some coverage keys that you can get as far as
Speaker 1: indicators from the defense. So safeties are very important. And
Speaker 1: then you know, but with the Dolphins, how obvious and
Speaker 1: how great to shut down corner can be for the defense.
Speaker 1: With Saving Howard and you know Byron Jones, both of
Speaker 1: those guys having riff years last year, so you guys
Speaker 1: are very familiar with what the shut down corner can
Speaker 1: do for a defense. That's what we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: on this draft class this draft podcast is the cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and the safeties and and try to find out what
Speaker 1: might be fits for this Dolphins team if they go
Speaker 1: back to that. Well, I think it's the deepest position
Speaker 1: on the team personally, but coach Flores turns this position
Speaker 1: over a lot, whether it's futurest contracts, guys that come
Speaker 1: in for practice squad spots, or in the draft. Last year,
Speaker 1: I think Noah Bonogamy was one of the surprises of
Speaker 1: that first round. So we continue here, Jordan, and you
Speaker 1: know I can give you the traits that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: look for. It's you know, long speed ball tracking, physical
Speaker 1: press at the line. When you first start looking at
Speaker 1: defensive back, safety or cornerback. What are some of the
Speaker 1: key traits you look for? Well, of course, this technique.
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that you have to realize
Speaker 1: what you're scouting at the position, and you have to
Speaker 1: figure out exactly what scheme they would fit, either a
Speaker 1: zone corner or a man corner, and there's different variations
Speaker 1: of what you look for in either. Of course, with
Speaker 1: man corners, you're gonna be looking for more body control
Speaker 1: technique at the position and patients at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: depending on the coaches want you to get their hands
Speaker 1: on them. Or hands off. As far as playing five
Speaker 1: yards off in the press technique and then zone corners,
Speaker 1: you're primarily having then what's playing like what's called a
Speaker 1: side saddle technique, which is just panty for turning your
Speaker 1: back to the sideline. You want to see how quick
Speaker 1: they're able to drive back downhill as well, especially if
Speaker 1: you're in a primary cover three scheme. But the Dolphins
Speaker 1: do a good job of mixing up the coverage is
Speaker 1: a lot just because coach flowlocks to do so much
Speaker 1: in the front seven. You have to have those defendable
Speaker 1: guys on the back end, and primarily you want those
Speaker 1: guys to be really good in man coverage. And you know,
Speaker 1: we'll get into some of these other guys here in
Speaker 1: the second as far as the prospects, but I look
Speaker 1: forward savvy at the position as well, for guys that
Speaker 1: uh that are able to read route concepts. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is sometimes you have guys that
Speaker 1: are just covering brass and then you have other guys
Speaker 1: that notice certain concepts and are able to attack the ball.
Speaker 1: Ball skills aren't super important to me at the position,
Speaker 1: but I just kind of treated as like an added
Speaker 1: incentive with that as long as you're staying with your
Speaker 1: guy and keeping him from catching the ball, I'm completely
Speaker 1: fine with that. And that's why I said getting interceptions
Speaker 1: and you know, turning the football over and getting it
Speaker 1: back to your offense. That's kind of an added incentive
Speaker 1: to me. But something that I've learned a lot, and
Speaker 1: I valued this a lot at the cornerback position, just
Speaker 1: because I think half the battle as far as these
Speaker 1: young guys transitioning to the position on the next level
Speaker 1: is confidence, and I think Zavian Howard is a great,
Speaker 1: great example of that is somebody that's just not scared
Speaker 1: when they're out there. They're not scared to show their ability,
Speaker 1: and whenever they make a play, they're gonna let the
Speaker 1: entire stadium know that. So I just I'm always fallen
Speaker 1: in love with cornerbacks that are what I like to
Speaker 1: call extroverts. So you're Jalen Ramsey's, You're Gyre Alexander's. People
Speaker 1: that are just ultimate competitors. I love that. That's a
Speaker 1: great that's a great phrase for that. You just checked
Speaker 1: so many boxes there for things I want to cover
Speaker 1: here real quick. First of all, you talked about the
Speaker 1: coverage mixing this defense does. I've learned way more football
Speaker 1: from evaluating Coach Flora's defense and Josh Boyer defenses than
Speaker 1: any other time in my life. So I love doing that.
Speaker 1: You talk about the ball skills of the defensive backs now,
Speaker 1: Coach Joe Alexander here in Miami will tell you that's
Speaker 1: his number one priority. Find the football, get the ball,
Speaker 1: and it's it's funny you talk about Xavier Howard and
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and the way those two guys kind of
Speaker 1: offered juxtaposition. You have probably the best ball hawk in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and Xavian Howard you talk about his confidence,
Speaker 1: the way he kind of undercut some of those over
Speaker 1: routes and just plays with a I'm gonna flash a
Speaker 1: window for you, then close that thing real quick. And
Speaker 1: then Byron Jones last year, watched that guy at work
Speaker 1: every single day before practice on tracking the football. Winds
Speaker 1: up having a career hiding interceptions last year too. So
Speaker 1: one more question, Jordan before you with the Dolphins here
Speaker 1: before we get into the draft class. You talked about
Speaker 1: confidence there a lot, and I want to get your
Speaker 1: take on we we mentioned his name earlier. No, what
Speaker 1: I bunogamy I want to get your take on his
Speaker 1: rookie season and what you kind of project for him
Speaker 1: here in year two because he played last year the
Speaker 1: first like he came off the bench in week two
Speaker 1: when Byron Jones got hurt and played for a couple
Speaker 1: of games and he got tested a lot. And that's
Speaker 1: what happens, right, Rookie cornerbacks are gonna get tested when
Speaker 1: they're on the field. What did you see in his
Speaker 1: game in college in his rookie tape and how can
Speaker 1: he you know, as the youngest player in the National
Speaker 1: Football League last year, take all of that, take the
Speaker 1: fact that he was only a dB in college for
Speaker 1: two years and build that confidence and build that repertoire
Speaker 1: to become the next shutdown corner here in Miami. Like,
Speaker 1: what's your what's your prognosis here of Noah Eggonogamy. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll go all the way back to my first experience
Speaker 1: with Noah, and it was at the Combine, and you know,
Speaker 1: you have all these players that have a lot of
Speaker 1: people at their podium. You know, the media is all
Speaker 1: over the place just talking about the combined with the
Speaker 1: podium obsessions, and was one of those guys that was
Speaker 1: kind of low key. A lot of people weren't really
Speaker 1: at his podium obsession. It was probably me and like
Speaker 1: five or six other people. I have no idea why
Speaker 1: it was that way, but he ended up being the
Speaker 1: first round pick, so obviously a lot more people wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to him after the fact. But I love
Speaker 1: his background story. Both parents actually ran track in the
Speaker 1: sec um. One went I went to Alabama and the
Speaker 1: other ones to Old miss if I'm not mistaken. So
Speaker 1: he had the genes and when he was coming out,
Speaker 1: everybody knew that, but it was just his experience at
Speaker 1: the position. He didn't have a whole bunch of it.
Speaker 1: But you turn on the tape him going against Alabama.
Speaker 1: I thought he played really well in that game for
Speaker 1: the most part, and it's kind of just like he's
Speaker 1: just playing off of his natural ability. He's not playing
Speaker 1: with a lot of technique. He played wide receiver primarily
Speaker 1: his first year in Auburn, then transition to the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball, so you know, he has boss skills. Definitely,
Speaker 1: he can find the ball in the area. It's just
Speaker 1: a matter of him just continued to get experienced reps
Speaker 1: at the position, and with him playing in the slot,
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna help him a lot. But he
Speaker 1: also can transition outside too, so he has that versatility
Speaker 1: that coach Flow talks about all the time. So I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna end up being a good player. But
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of him just consistently and continuously
Speaker 1: getting rips. He had some good bounceback reps late in
Speaker 1: the season last year when he filled up front Xavien Howard,
Speaker 1: who was ejected in the Cincinnati Bengals game with he
Speaker 1: and Tyler Boyd getting into it there. But that is
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. Let's go ahead and pivot to
Speaker 1: the reason you're on the podcast. You're talking about this
Speaker 1: draft class and Georgia. I went over your top fifty
Speaker 1: big board. Here. What you guys can find on the
Speaker 1: Draft Network here Jordan Reed, NFL draft analyst for the
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Speaker 1: You've got three cornerbacks in your top twenty four, your
Speaker 1: top twenty five, and then a safety at thirty one,
Speaker 1: another corner at thirty two, and that's it for your
Speaker 1: top fifty. Let's go ahead and start with those first
Speaker 1: four guys. Caleb Farley, J C. Horne, Patrick's Artan the second,
Speaker 1: and Greg Knewsome out of Northwestern. Which of those guys
Speaker 1: are I should say, are all four of those guys
Speaker 1: to you in the same tier? Is there a break
Speaker 1: in there somewhere? And how do you separate those four
Speaker 1: guys As far as first round guys, I think they're
Speaker 1: all in the same tier. As far as ones that
Speaker 1: I think that are going to go in the first round,
Speaker 1: I think Farley is probably the one that is a
Speaker 1: little bit up in arms right now, just because everybody
Speaker 1: has heard about the back injury. Will never know the
Speaker 1: severity of that. That's up to each team's medical team
Speaker 1: to determine how comfortable they are with that. But overall,
Speaker 1: I think he's want to be more talented of the bunch,
Speaker 1: but once again, you have the injury situation to factor
Speaker 1: in with him. My favorite of the bunch actually is J. C. Horne.
Speaker 1: I love the NFL bloodlines with them that he and
Speaker 1: Patrick certain have. But even though he's not as far
Speaker 1: along technique wise as Farley or certain or even a Newsom,
Speaker 1: I just love the upside that he possesses in I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of people and a lot of you
Speaker 1: guys have been following him on social media or even
Speaker 1: at his pro date. He is the ultimate competitor and
Speaker 1: I just love that at the position just because, like
Speaker 1: I said a bit earlier, and that I just love
Speaker 1: players at the cornerback position that it extroverts. I love
Speaker 1: them having that confidence. And if you think about the
Speaker 1: elite talents at the position, that is one trade that
Speaker 1: they always have in common. But certain I think he
Speaker 1: probably is the most safe of the bunch, and for
Speaker 1: lack of better words, just because he has the polish
Speaker 1: central looking for at the position and he has what
Speaker 1: I like to call a high floor. You know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're getting from him and day won and that's
Speaker 1: the starting corner. I think he can go on to
Speaker 1: be one of the better players at the position very
Speaker 1: early on in his career. But I think the ultimate
Speaker 1: wild card in the group is probably Greg Newsom, the second.
Speaker 1: He's the one that didn't get a lot of buzz initially,
Speaker 1: but he gave up the least amount of yards of
Speaker 1: any cornerback that received twenty or more targets last year
Speaker 1: in the fbs UM And if you go back and
Speaker 1: watch him in the first half against Ohio State in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship game. Justin Fields didn't even look
Speaker 1: at his way at all. He didn't argue to him,
Speaker 1: not one time. He was great in the Wisconsin game,
Speaker 1: and he was fantastic against Nebraska as well. Um, he
Speaker 1: does have something that he needs to clean up. He
Speaker 1: is a little bit grabby at the position, so we
Speaker 1: just needs to stress to take me a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But I think that will come along as he continues
Speaker 1: to get rips. You mentioned Patrick Surtan there, and you know,
Speaker 1: you say that name to Dolphins fans and they're gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's get that guy because his dad was so good
Speaker 1: here for so long in Miami. But it just seems
Speaker 1: I'll never ever say like, not gonna happen. And I
Speaker 1: think ig monogamy was a good example of that when
Speaker 1: it comes to the draft, and I'm sure you get
Speaker 1: it all the time when your mock draft, Jordan, that's
Speaker 1: never gonna happen. Man, you're out of your mind. I'll
Speaker 1: never say that because that's not how the draft works.
Speaker 1: But just with the way the cornerback depth chart stacks
Speaker 1: up where pass or tam probably goes, I just don't
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna happen here in Miami, as would
Speaker 1: probably be the case for those first four or five
Speaker 1: guys on that list. So if I were to ask you, Jordan,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk maybe day two or later, maybe even
Speaker 1: pick fifty year later, who were some of the best
Speaker 1: press cover corners in this draft class outside of that
Speaker 1: top tier guys. Yeah, that's quite a bit in this
Speaker 1: a sniff. We're just starting at the fiftieth pick. Um
Speaker 1: If Melifonal from Syracuse. Everybody has heard of that last
Speaker 1: name before. His brother was the second round pick of
Speaker 1: the Raiders a couple of years ago. But one thing
Speaker 1: I do want to say about is don't compare him
Speaker 1: to his brother as far as their possible career arc.
Speaker 1: I think it's a totally different player. But he has
Speaker 1: that length that the Dawnkhins covered. He's about six ft two,
Speaker 1: about two hundred and five to two hundred and ten pounds.
Speaker 1: I don't know his exact meagerable from his protein, but um,
Speaker 1: he's a very long press man corner. I think he
Speaker 1: can play in soon or man. So he has the
Speaker 1: versatility that's looking forward as fantastic fall skills. He was
Speaker 1: great in the North Carolina game. I think that was
Speaker 1: one of his better games of the year, uh in
Speaker 1: the season opener there. So if Melifonal was definitely one
Speaker 1: player to keep an eye on, another one is passing
Speaker 1: the debo from Stanford. Another player that a lot of
Speaker 1: people really forgot about in this in this draft class,
Speaker 1: just because he opted out a season ago, so we
Speaker 1: didn't see him last year. But prior to that season
Speaker 1: I thought he did. He played really well and he
Speaker 1: had the one bad game against UCF and where Dave
Speaker 1: Davids ran a double move on him, and it just
Speaker 1: seems like everybody rings that up when you're talking about
Speaker 1: um Austin Adebo, and you just forget about the positives
Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. Very very smart player,
Speaker 1: very disciplined. I think he has some things that he
Speaker 1: needs to clean up as far as it's disciplined. I
Speaker 1: think that's one area. And what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is he kind of to try to excuse me. He
Speaker 1: tries to do other guys's assignments as opposed to speaking
Speaker 1: to he is just because he gets a little bit
Speaker 1: nosy as far as like jumping routes and just playing
Speaker 1: undisciplined football at the time. So if he just learns
Speaker 1: to just stick to his assignment, I think he definitely
Speaker 1: can be a dependable starting player. We talked about bloodlines
Speaker 1: with Patrick Surtain in this draft. There's another player in
Speaker 1: this draft class that has some more good NFL lineage
Speaker 1: in the jeans, Asante Samuel Jr. From Florida State. And
Speaker 1: that kind of leads me into my next question for
Speaker 1: you here, Jordan, because I've seen him band you about
Speaker 1: as as possible slot cornerback, but I've also heard him
Speaker 1: in interview say like, no, you want to try me
Speaker 1: on the outside first, because I can. I can do it.
Speaker 1: I'm a good enough player to do that. Would he
Speaker 1: be your top slot cornerback? And just if you can
Speaker 1: continue on that thought process, who are some of the
Speaker 1: best slots in this draft? It will be between him
Speaker 1: and Elijah Molden. I view him as an outside corner
Speaker 1: as far as the science, Samuel, I think he can't
Speaker 1: play outside, And he said he blatantly said this. He said, look,
Speaker 1: I'm the same as that side as jire Alexander, So
Speaker 1: why can't I play outside? And he ended up being
Speaker 1: a first round figure. Just talking about Jy here, but
Speaker 1: he's not quite as twitchy as what Jire was coming out,
Speaker 1: but I think he has the same type of upside
Speaker 1: that Jire definitely does possess as far as what he
Speaker 1: eventually could turn into. I'm a big fan of him.
Speaker 1: I think he's the best tackling corner in the draft. Um.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm a big fan of him.
Speaker 1: I love everything that he showed at the position. And
Speaker 1: then Elijah Molden, I'm I'm a big fan of this
Speaker 1: guy too. I would he would be a guy with
Speaker 1: und the table for just because you talk about somebody
Speaker 1: that's just a football player, another one that has NFL bloodlines.
Speaker 1: To believe, his dad played for the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So, Um, just an incredible football player,
Speaker 1: can come up to tackle when you want. It's very savvy.
Speaker 1: He attacked the run with the same type of intensity
Speaker 1: that he has in coverage, and he's just one of
Speaker 1: those guys that you know it's just gonna be a
Speaker 1: real good player in the next level. Covering press man
Speaker 1: corners here are slot cornerbacks. And I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about this because both of our starting safeties here
Speaker 1: in Miami and for my money, a top ten safety
Speaker 1: tandem in the NFL that played really well last year.
Speaker 1: Limited big plays, but they also come down and cover
Speaker 1: because they do have cornerback experience. Eric Rowe had played
Speaker 1: on the outside, played on the inside. Bobby McCain same story.
Speaker 1: Started his career as a slot corner, goes outside, eventually
Speaker 1: moves to free safety. And you mentioned Melofon, who I
Speaker 1: feel like that might be a name because of the
Speaker 1: testing metrics and the length and stuff back there. But
Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong. Who are some
Speaker 1: of the guys that could possibly be you know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's immediately, maybe it's long term guys that convert from
Speaker 1: cornerback to the safety position. Well, there's the two guys
Speaker 1: that I think will be in the Dolphins wheelhouse and
Speaker 1: they're looking for somebody that can be converted safety, and
Speaker 1: one is Israel Kwamu. He's a cornerback from South Carolina
Speaker 1: and a lot of people talked about j. C. Horn
Speaker 1: coming out of South Carolina, rightfully so. But the guy
Speaker 1: on the other side was a really good player as well.
Speaker 1: He originally started at safety when he came to South Carolina,
Speaker 1: but they have some injuries and he had to position back. Outside,
Speaker 1: but he does struggle a little bit as far as um.
Speaker 1: He's a bigger guy, so he's about six before two
Speaker 1: and ten pounds, and he has some struggles with transitioning
Speaker 1: in and out as far as his breaks and then
Speaker 1: out of out of his technique too as well. So
Speaker 1: with him coming down from the roof from safety, it's
Speaker 1: not as dependable for him to show that hip fluidity.
Speaker 1: So he's one player that I think some teams, not
Speaker 1: just the Dolphins, could have ranked as a safety. And
Speaker 1: then another one is Shane Wade from Ohigh State, the
Speaker 1: player that everybody is very evidence of as far as
Speaker 1: what he was a couple of years ago, he primarily
Speaker 1: played slot corner and then he played outside. Last year
Speaker 1: he was battling turned toe injury, which he did reveal
Speaker 1: at Ohio States Pro that he didn't participate at all.
Speaker 1: But he is on the four team of this month.
Speaker 1: He's gonna test and do everything that he needs to do.
Speaker 1: So um him showing that he did struggle a little bit.
Speaker 1: He faced some challenges on the outside, but he is
Speaker 1: a dependable slot guy that maybe some teams that see
Speaker 1: him as a safety as well. I'll be really curious
Speaker 1: see where he goes on draftick because like you mentioned
Speaker 1: that that twenty nineteen tape, he was for my money
Speaker 1: in the first round. Then you talk about through the injury,
Speaker 1: playing outside and and just having more on his plate
Speaker 1: in terms of what he did at Ohio State. Fun
Speaker 1: player to watch. Can't wai to see his draft story.
Speaker 1: Now I mentioned your top fifty big board here to
Speaker 1: how many dbs you had on there. We've got one
Speaker 1: true safety in the bunch and Trayvon Mulray out of TCU.
Speaker 1: I feel like he might be the leadoff for this
Speaker 1: next question for you, Jordan's who are some of the
Speaker 1: best middle of the field rangey guys that can that
Speaker 1: can play that center field and get to sideline the
Speaker 1: sideline and help you take the football away in that
Speaker 1: back in best middle of the field safeties in this class, Well,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of them that I do like. And
Speaker 1: um Andre Cisco will be one that I like to
Speaker 1: mention from Syracuse. He's your true traditional free one high
Speaker 1: free safety was a ball halk coming out of Syracuse.
Speaker 1: Tim plus interception to his career. Go back and watch
Speaker 1: him against North Carolina, just like against just like for
Speaker 1: mill and fun will both of those guys that really
Speaker 1: impressive games. And he had an interception where he was
Speaker 1: able to bait the quarterback into throwing it deep and
Speaker 1: he almost returned it for a test now, but I'm
Speaker 1: a big Fancisco. We didn't see him a lot last year.
Speaker 1: He ended up tearing the A C O and he
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to do what during the pre draft process,
Speaker 1: So there is a little bit of risk with taking him,
Speaker 1: whether it's at fifty or even later on in the draft.
Speaker 1: Another one is Richie Grant from you see he's helped
Speaker 1: himself a ton this year from how he has played
Speaker 1: this year, but also going down to the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: he was a lot of people's top player there as
Speaker 1: far as that helped themselves the most. So, UM, if
Speaker 1: you're looking more of a Day three guy, you can
Speaker 1: say Richard Account the third from Georgia. Uh, there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of risk there with him. He was actually
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle accident to where he wasn't able to
Speaker 1: perform at his best at Georgia's prote and he he
Speaker 1: received some numbers that he wasn't very happy about. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact numbers as far as I
Speaker 1: think he ran like four eight two or something like that,
Speaker 1: but he plays much faster than that on tape, So
Speaker 1: maybe some teams they're just gonna trust the tape with him.
Speaker 1: But he is a true traditional single high pree safety
Speaker 1: that you could get maybe in like the fourth or
Speaker 1: the fifth round. I love it. And the opposite of
Speaker 1: that is, you know this Dolphins defense McCain, Rode, Brandon
Speaker 1: Jones last year, they all play you know, too high,
Speaker 1: single high, They come down in the box, they blitz,
Speaker 1: they do everything. It's it's fun to watch. Like you
Speaker 1: mentioned the variety, But if you had to pick some
Speaker 1: of your top box safeties in that your class, who
Speaker 1: might they be? Javon Holland from Oregon. He's one player
Speaker 1: that I think that a lot of people have forgotten
Speaker 1: about just because he was along the lines of some
Speaker 1: of those opt outs like Gregory Russol, Michael Parsons, and
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase where we didn't see him at all last
Speaker 1: year and even like his teammate, and they see who
Speaker 1: opted out in the twenties seasons, So what's happening with
Speaker 1: those opt outs as you kind of forget about who
Speaker 1: they are and what their skill sets tend to stand
Speaker 1: for in Island is one that primarily played the slot
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, but he had some one high rips
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen that are very impressive as well. So
Speaker 1: Javon Holland definitely would be a name that I have
Speaker 1: marked as far as one of my favorite box safeties
Speaker 1: and another if you're looking for a day two guys
Speaker 1: have some NOZZL game from Florida State. More of your
Speaker 1: Swiss army knife that can play in the box, but
Speaker 1: also he can play a little bit out wide as well.
Speaker 1: He can guard the shifty slot guys are carried down
Speaker 1: the scene with those tight ends as well. He said
Speaker 1: that he's more comfortable playing downhere in that box role.
Speaker 1: About six ft three, two hundred and fifteen pounds, so
Speaker 1: primarily one him around the line of scrimmage. Jordan read
Speaker 1: the Draft Network draft analysts for them, read Option podcast
Speaker 1: releases Top fifty Big Board recently on t d N. Jordan,
Speaker 1: what else are you working on? Where people can find
Speaker 1: you and where can they find you on social? So
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jordan's underscore read
Speaker 1: You can find me there on Twitter and you can
Speaker 1: also find my work on the Draft Network dot com.
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of stuff going on, and even
Speaker 1: if you want to simulate the draft of stent around,
Speaker 1: you can do that with that mock draft simulator. Um.
Speaker 1: You can read about the players as you're selecting them,
Speaker 1: their scouting reports on every single guy as well. Again,
Speaker 1: that's at j O R d A N Underscore r
Speaker 1: E I D on Twitter. Nobody in the business does
Speaker 1: better background on these players than Jordan does, so check
Speaker 1: out his work. We had Joe Marino from t d
Speaker 1: N earlier this week. We're gonna have Trevor Sikuma later
Speaker 1: next week as well. We're gonna use these guys lat
Speaker 1: because they are the best in the business The Draft Network.
Speaker 1: Jordan read, Jordan, appreciate your time today man, and uh,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time out of your day. I
Speaker 1: know you're a very busy man. Thanks as always having
Speaker 1: pleasure Jordan read from the dre A Network away, he goes.
Speaker 1: I love having him on the podcast. He's so thorough,
Speaker 1: so in depth, but also concise, and he lets me
Speaker 1: talk a little bit. It's my show. I love doing that.
Speaker 1: You gotta love Jordan read here from the Draft Network.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him more in the future and probably
Speaker 1: after the draft is well to talk about some of
Speaker 1: the prospects of dolphins do wind up with because he's
Speaker 1: such a valuable resource for us. Here, speaking of valuable resources,
Speaker 1: I consider myself to be a very valuable resource when
Speaker 1: it comes to recommending television shows because I'm extremely, extremely picky.
Speaker 1: I hate most television. I hate most movies, but the
Speaker 1: ones I do love, I get completely inundated and obsessed with.
Speaker 1: So I have a few more for you guys here
Speaker 1: on recommendation Station Friday, talking about Netflix show streaming shows,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I have been flying through old
Speaker 1: episodes of It's Always Stunny in Philadelphia, but that's a reruns.
Speaker 1: We won't cover that as much share on the podcast
Speaker 1: Formula one Drive to Survive. Now. I'm aware this is
Speaker 1: three years old there into the third season, and even
Speaker 1: if you're not a Formula one fan, this show is
Speaker 1: so so much. There's so much of a Hard Knox
Speaker 1: feel to the show that it just grips you and
Speaker 1: pulls you in. You get entrenched in these rivalries, these characters,
Speaker 1: these personalities, these drama. The drama of every single race,
Speaker 1: every single inch, every qualifying lap is so crucial. And
Speaker 1: I told my buddy, who's a big F one and
Speaker 1: football fan, like it reminds me of the NFL, where
Speaker 1: the stakes are life and death and every single detail
Speaker 1: you do. And he wrote back kind of laughingly, like yeah,
Speaker 1: except for it actually is life or death because these
Speaker 1: guys can die on the race track. And but what
Speaker 1: I meant by that was that, you know, it's there's
Speaker 1: no patience, there's it's get results or you're gonna get out.
Speaker 1: Like the very first episode, this one team had two
Speaker 1: cars in the pit and they both of their cars
Speaker 1: had their tires not properly secured and they had to
Speaker 1: retire the cars from the race because of poor pit management.
Speaker 1: So it's it's very intense and like me, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be into F one now. I plan on watching the
Speaker 1: race on Sunday, which I believe is in Azerbaijan. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong on that, but Formula One Drive to
Speaker 1: Survive on Netflix is a phenomenal show and sports fans
Speaker 1: and fans of drama and one's gonna like that. I
Speaker 1: promise you check it out. Bad Trip. Eric Andre has
Speaker 1: the Eric Andre Show. He's phenomenal in Man Seeking Woman
Speaker 1: on FX, he is starring in this hidden camera type
Speaker 1: of jackass type like what's the other one? Bad Grandpa?
Speaker 1: Those all those Johnny Knoxville movies. It's the same director.
Speaker 1: So it's this hidden camera show where he goes around
Speaker 1: and pranks people, but he ties in a storyline to it.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Some of the scenes will have you with
Speaker 1: your jaw on the floor. Cannot recommend Bad Trip enough.
Speaker 1: Then there's a documentary on HBO. I forget the name
Speaker 1: of it, but it's basically looking I think it's called
Speaker 1: Inside Q and On. I mean, just check it out.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating. It's I don't agree with it, but it's
Speaker 1: the detail on its blows your mind. So those are
Speaker 1: my recommendations. Formula one, Bad Trip and the Q and
Speaker 1: On documentary on HBO. Let's go ahead and wrap up
Speaker 1: this edition of the Drive Time podcast. The next time
Speaker 1: you guys hear from me, I will be back in
Speaker 1: South Florida. That's right. The sabbatical up north in the
Speaker 1: Northwest is overcoming to an end. I'm heading back down
Speaker 1: to sunny South Florida. Can't wait to get back to
Speaker 1: the pool, get some sunshine in my life, get back
Speaker 1: out to the beach, so we'll see you guys there
Speaker 1: for the draft run up as well as Draft Night.
Speaker 1: Are big Draft Night at the hard Rock Stadium. Come
Speaker 1: check us out. We're gonna have analysts on the stage
Speaker 1: breaking that stuff down for you guys. Myself included in that.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a lot of fun doing all
Speaker 1: that stuff on YouTube as well at hard Rock Stadium.
Speaker 1: Fun fun month ahead here on the podcast. In the meantime,
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