WEBVTT - 2021 NFL Draft Defensive Backs Preview, Top 5 Offseason Moves 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:16.919 Fail touchdown, Miami Run? What is up? Dolphans And welcome 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.320 to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.759 podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins. How's it 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.160 going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.360 today's show, the Draft previews continue. We're talking to Jordan 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.200 Reed of the Draft Network to break down this class 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.479 of defensive backs. We'll talk about Miami's own dbs and 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.840 what we look for here in South Florida, will break 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.360 it into tears, tell you who the best press cover 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.560 corners are, the best corner safety converts, and a whole 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.960 bunch more with Jordan's plus Peter Schreker dropped in mock Draft. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.840 We're gonna discuss that I lift, my five favorite moves 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.840 of the offseason, and my latest show and streaming recommendation station. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.840 All of that and a whole bunch more. This edition 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:08.119 of the Drive Time Podcast presented by AutoNation. So Peter 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.880 Schreeger broke Dolphins Twitter on Thursday morning with his latest 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.360 mock draft where he goes around and talks to people 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.120 in the league, people in the know, and tries to 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.480 get the most accurate depiction of what he thinks could 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.000 happen on draft night. But he also gives you a 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.840 bit of a disclaimer and saying that this is the 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.160 best I can do with the information that I have. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.520 He's not standing by of the way, just talking about 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.960 different scenarios. And that's why I like about this mock 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.240 draft from Peter Schreeger is that it prepares you for 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.640 different possible outcomes. In this year's draft, he has Miami 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:42.319 at number six, taking Northwestern offensive tackle Rashawn Slater, who 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.560 has played inside a guard before as well so an 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.040 offensive lineman that can play multiple spots. He is fluid 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.320 as all get out, a great pass protector, had a 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.600 great tape against Chase Young a couple of years ago 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.200 against Ohio State. A lot of folks are gonna point 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.840 to that tape and say, this is the best tackle 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.560 in the draft for my money. Moving up from twelve 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.880 to six a tackle, it could be. It could feasibly 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.240 be an option. I don't see it personally, but we'll 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.120 find out what happens come draft night. I do happen 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.080 to like the tackle class at pick eighteen a whole bunch. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.160 And someone posed this question to me in the mail 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.560 bag last time around about who is the best pure 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.280 right tackle in this class, and to me, that's Tevin 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.720 Jenkins out of Oklahoma State. He is a mahler, a finisher, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.040 a barrier. You heard us talk about this on the 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.600 Wednesday podcast with Joe Marino breaking down the offensive line. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.960 Maybe it's Tuesday, I forget talking about this offensive line 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.560 class and and Tevin Jenkins. I told him that Brandon 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.440 Thorne and Brett Coleman, two of my favorite analysts in 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.240 the NFL draft industry, in the breakdown industry, that they 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.560 have Jenkins number two behind Pine Swool, and Joe Marino 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.480 just got out of his chair and started applauding that 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.440 because he loves Tevin Jenkins as well. I think eighteen 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.040 could be a great spot if someone like Jenkins, someone 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.640 like Christian Dery Saw falls to that position. But I 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.960 do wonder if your move up from twelve to six 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.400 would be four a tackle who possibly could be there 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.079 at number twelve, if not a rock solid consolation at 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.920 that spot at pick number twelve. So that's my thought 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.680 on the Peter Schreeger mak, I want to get to 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.800 this real quick before we welcome in my guest today, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.720 Jordan Reed of the Draft Network my top five offseason 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.080 moves so far from Miami, and this will change post 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.080 draft because we have so many picks to make, and 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.880 of course an elite prospect probably coming our way at 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.760 number six if Miami picks in that spot. My number 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.480 one offseason moves so far will Fuller. I just think 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.000 the things he adds this offense from my dynamic standpoint 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.560 from I stretched the field standpoint to force defenses to 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.480 play two high safeties and really take a lot of 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.760 attention away from the underneath game. But also the savvy 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.680 route running of this guy's game. He is so crafty underneath. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.880 He excels on the routes that I think too or 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.520 throws best. He can separate, he can make big plays 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.240 after the catch. To me, he has everything you want 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.480 and a number one wide receiver number two. Adam Butler 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.200 talked about this on Twitter on Wednesday a little bit. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.480 How his explosion his first step off the line drives 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.600 so well with this defense. Is thought process of getting 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.600 so many bodies up on the line, create confusion in 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.880 the possible pass protection scheme, and then send bodies in 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.720 different gaps and confuse the O line. And Adam Butler's 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.960 first step quickness, his get off really really accentuates what 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.840 Miami does when mugging up those two linebackers in the 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.279 A gaps. You put the onus on the center and 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.839 both guards to communicate quickly and effectively to get that blocked, 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.719 and his first step quickness helps that tenfold. He's my 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.719 second favorite offseason move. Number three is right in that 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.960 same vein with Bernardrick McKinney, because he can do so 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.720 much in those A gaps both as a blitzer as 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.520 a run defender. He's a traffic cop out there. He's 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.640 gonna get the defense lined up, he's gonna have his 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.640 run fits nailed down, tough, and I think the Dolphins 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.160 are just saying basically, good luck running the football. Honst 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.320 this year with both Adam Butler, but Nardrick McKinney, Brand Scarlett, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.000 all these guys they made additions for in that front seven. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.839 Number four offseason moves so far with signing Matt Skura, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.159 I talked about his tape a little bit. His pass 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.599 protection and run blocking wind rates on ESPN the only 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.880 or one of four centers and twenty nine and tw 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.720 twenty to be top ten in both of those categories. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.760 His twenty nineteen tape is very very good, powerful guy 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.479 that can get movement, can anchor and pass protection as well. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.520 So I'm excited about Matt Scura a number five. The 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.680 addition of Justin Coleman as a slot cornerback, a guy 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.840 that can play both inside outside physical press. He doesn't 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.800 he has that confidence You're gonna hear Jordan Reid talk 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.440 about here in just one second. Good ball skills as well, 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.599 fits in the running game too. So those are my 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.839 top five Offsason move so far for your Miami Dolphins, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.760 Will Fuller, Adam Butler, Mcnageric McKinney, Matt Skura, and Justin Coleman. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.440 And with Justin Coleman, let's pivot here and talk about 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.280 defensive backs. And before we do that real quick there, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.720 one of the goals of this podcast is to dispel 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.400 some of the myths. I mean, you guys heard the 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.479 two A tongue of my lower podcast earlier in the 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.240 week talking about quarterbacks and some of the misnomers about 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.720 two was game out there right now? Something out there 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.120 about big plays and deep balls and allowing too many 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.559 explosive plays with his defense, Like where where did that happen? 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.400 Because I didn't see it happened. Most of the years 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.880 Dolphins were so rock solid through Gerald Alexander's just preaching 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.440 the message. The big place happened to the secondary. Bobby 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.279 McCain's presence back there. He was so fluid it getting 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.200 over the top and coverage, passing off coverage, finding his 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.800 landmarks and getting to the football making big plays as well. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.880 So Bobby McCain, for my money, was one of the 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.039 best players on the defense last year, on the team 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.200 in general, and I think he is so important and 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.760 so critical and so crucial to this defense and has 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.520 come so far from his development as a free safety, 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.760 and to me, he looks great back in that position. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.599 So just wanted to get that out there before we 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.520 pivot now to my conversation with Jordan Reid of the 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.040 Draft Network to break down this Dolphin secondary, this upcoming 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.359 draft class in the defensive back room. He's also going 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.320 to explain to us some of the techniques and some 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.480 of the ideas behind certain packages plenty in this interview 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.400 here with Jordan Reid and joining us now on the 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.479 Drivetime podcasts, NFL draft analyst at the Draft Network, the 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.560 host of the Read Option podcast. He's not that Jordan read, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.280 but he is Jordan read. Jordan, thanks for coming back 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.839 on the Drivetime podcast. Man, welcome in, No problem drivers. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.080 It's always a pleasure being you're talking about with one 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.280 of our longtime friends of the podcast here. I want 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.039 to say, Jordan, you might have the most guest appearances 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.480 by anyone not named John kN Jemmy are fellow multi 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.240 media analysts here on the Dolphins website. I think this 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.440 is like your third or fourth appearance, Man leading the way. Yeah, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.920 I'm losing account. Man. I love talking about the Dolphins, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.040 so it's always a pleasure. I always love your Twitter, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.000 you know, basically going back to twenty nine team and 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.120 they began to just accumulate draft capital and you always 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.480 had positive things to say. So we appreciate that here 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.080 with the team with the podcast network. Before we get 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.400 into this real quick, Jordan's scouting season has been wild 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.280 this year, you know, different than any other year in 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.600 the past. How has it been for you so far? Man, Yeah, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.880 it's definitely been different, just because it feels like you're 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.720 playing catch up with a lot of these guys. Just 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.720 because the way we run our department is pretty much 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.440 the same as far as the NFL team, So we 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.840 actually split into regions this year, and we split it 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.920 up by conference, so I'm responsible for the SEC, the 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.200 big twelve fcs, and then some D two and three 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.680 three schools as well, So we didn't have the normal 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.200 access is what we always have. And if you think 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.200 going back to last year when the pandemic really it 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.680 was around March and the Combine had already happened, and 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.559 a lot of important things on the calendar had already 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.760 happened as well. But with the pandemic happening now as 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.760 when it did happen like Markie April of some sort, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.000 you're kind of playing catch up just because you don't 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.080 really have as much access to the fall. And then 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.600 in the spring, we didn't have the combine, and really 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.520 your first content with a lot of these guys was 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.080 during the postseason All Star games, so it feels like 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.880 you're a little bit behind, but now you're starting to 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.920 catch up with Pro Days and things of that nature happened. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.000 I feel like I fell behind during the season because 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.040 of all the guys that just opted out, plus working 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.520 for an NFL team sometimes Saturday is a little bit busy, 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.840 but having guys like you come on the podcast here 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.880 and educate us. That's what we're looking for here as 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.240 we gear up for this draft now just three weeks away. Jordan, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.400 it seems like it comes by faster every single year, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.080 and last year didn't have other sports to entertain us, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.280 like the n stable A tournament or the starter baseball 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.360 season or the NBA playoff push here, so things are 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.559 better here. And typically we have Jordan on to talk 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.760 about orderbacks, skill players, something on the offensive side of 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.280 the football. But Jordan, I want to just go ahead 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.640 and first start with this. We're gonna have you talk 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.520 about defensive backs on this podcast. And we talk about 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.719 this on the podcast previously with Brian Flores and to 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.400 a tongue of Valoa and having that defensive minded coach 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.439 and and Flora's will tell you. The first thing he'll 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.560 tell you is he's not defensive mind. He's a football coach, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.040 but he does direct some of the best defenses really 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.120 in recent NFL history. And so I think having that 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.240 perspective of hey, I'm gonna talk to my quarterback about 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.040 what the what the defense wants to do to you, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.240 that's kind of my idea here. So when you think 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.320 about that from the quarterbacks lens, how much value is 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.200 there and having that offensive experience in your in the 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.520 back of your mind when evaluating defensive players, it means 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.000 a lot just because they're studying pretty much that side 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.520 of the ball. Whenever you're you're inside of the game 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.640 and you're studying structures of defenses in your outlining, and 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.800 you're seeing who is circled on scouting reports, so you're 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.720 always going to be aware of the dbs and where 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.280 they're gonna be on the field end. As a quarterback, 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.680 you already know that the safeties really are the tail 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.720 tale as far as the coverage here, there's some coverage reads, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.920 some coverage keys that you can get as far as 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.560 indicators from the defense. So safeties are very important. And 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.320 then you know, but with the Dolphins, how obvious and 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.920 how great to shut down corner can be for the defense. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.000 With Saving Howard and you know Byron Jones, both of 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.600 those guys having riff years last year, so you guys 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.960 are very familiar with what the shut down corner can 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.600 do for a defense. That's what we're gonna talk about 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.199 on this draft class this draft podcast is the cornerbacks 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.320 and the safeties and and try to find out what 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.400 might be fits for this Dolphins team if they go 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.840 back to that. Well, I think it's the deepest position 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.640 on the team personally, but coach Flores turns this position 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.320 over a lot, whether it's futurest contracts, guys that come 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.839 in for practice squad spots, or in the draft. Last year, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.360 I think Noah Bonogamy was one of the surprises of 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.240 that first round. So we continue here, Jordan, and you 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.840 know I can give you the traits that the Dolphins 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.280 look for. It's you know, long speed ball tracking, physical 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.600 press at the line. When you first start looking at 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.000 defensive back, safety or cornerback. What are some of the 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.520 key traits you look for? Well, of course, this technique. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.880 I think that's one thing that you have to realize 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.800 what you're scouting at the position, and you have to 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.920 figure out exactly what scheme they would fit, either a 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.559 zone corner or a man corner, and there's different variations 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.480 of what you look for in either. Of course, with 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.760 man corners, you're gonna be looking for more body control 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.760 technique at the position and patients at the line of scrimmage, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.000 depending on the coaches want you to get their hands 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.679 on them. Or hands off. As far as playing five 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.840 yards off in the press technique and then zone corners, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.280 you're primarily having then what's playing like what's called a 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.360 side saddle technique, which is just panty for turning your 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.280 back to the sideline. You want to see how quick 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.760 they're able to drive back downhill as well, especially if 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.640 you're in a primary cover three scheme. But the Dolphins 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.160 do a good job of mixing up the coverage is 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.280 a lot just because coach flowlocks to do so much 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.600 in the front seven. You have to have those defendable 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.920 guys on the back end, and primarily you want those 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.360 guys to be really good in man coverage. And you know, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.080 we'll get into some of these other guys here in 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.160 the second as far as the prospects, but I look 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.640 forward savvy at the position as well, for guys that 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.600 uh that are able to read route concepts. And what 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.520 I mean by that is sometimes you have guys that 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.840 are just covering brass and then you have other guys 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.600 that notice certain concepts and are able to attack the ball. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.360 Ball skills aren't super important to me at the position, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.080 but I just kind of treated as like an added 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.400 incentive with that as long as you're staying with your 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.319 guy and keeping him from catching the ball, I'm completely 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.559 fine with that. And that's why I said getting interceptions 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.280 and you know, turning the football over and getting it 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.360 back to your offense. That's kind of an added incentive 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.160 to me. But something that I've learned a lot, and 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.440 I valued this a lot at the cornerback position, just 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.400 because I think half the battle as far as these 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.040 young guys transitioning to the position on the next level 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.760 is confidence, and I think Zavian Howard is a great, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.400 great example of that is somebody that's just not scared 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.120 when they're out there. They're not scared to show their ability, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:38.880 and whenever they make a play, they're gonna let the 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.360 entire stadium know that. So I just I'm always fallen 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.079 in love with cornerbacks that are what I like to 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.680 call extroverts. So you're Jalen Ramsey's, You're Gyre Alexander's. People 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.000 that are just ultimate competitors. I love that. That's a 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.680 great that's a great phrase for that. You just checked 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.160 so many boxes there for things I want to cover 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.080 here real quick. First of all, you talked about the 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.480 coverage mixing this defense does. I've learned way more football 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.720 from evaluating Coach Flora's defense and Josh Boyer defenses than 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.400 any other time in my life. So I love doing that. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.320 You talk about the ball skills of the defensive backs now, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.719 Coach Joe Alexander here in Miami will tell you that's 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.000 his number one priority. Find the football, get the ball, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.679 and it's it's funny you talk about Xavier Howard and 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.000 Byron Jones and the way those two guys kind of 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.920 offered juxtaposition. You have probably the best ball hawk in 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.760 the NFL, and Xavian Howard you talk about his confidence, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.080 the way he kind of undercut some of those over 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.440 routes and just plays with a I'm gonna flash a 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.720 window for you, then close that thing real quick. And 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.960 then Byron Jones last year, watched that guy at work 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.640 every single day before practice on tracking the football. Winds 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.880 up having a career hiding interceptions last year too. So 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.200 one more question, Jordan before you with the Dolphins here 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.199 before we get into the draft class. You talked about 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.000 confidence there a lot, and I want to get your 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.920 take on we we mentioned his name earlier. No, what 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.839 I bunogamy I want to get your take on his 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.280 rookie season and what you kind of project for him 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.640 here in year two because he played last year the 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.440 first like he came off the bench in week two 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.640 when Byron Jones got hurt and played for a couple 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.679 of games and he got tested a lot. And that's 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.120 what happens, right, Rookie cornerbacks are gonna get tested when 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:03.920 they're on the field. What did you see in his 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.199 game in college in his rookie tape and how can 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:07.960 he you know, as the youngest player in the National 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.440 Football League last year, take all of that, take the 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.080 fact that he was only a dB in college for 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.960 two years and build that confidence and build that repertoire 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.480 to become the next shutdown corner here in Miami. Like, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.480 what's your what's your prognosis here of Noah Eggonogamy. Well, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.560 I'll go all the way back to my first experience 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.040 with Noah, and it was at the Combine, and you know, 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.000 you have all these players that have a lot of 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.440 people at their podium. You know, the media is all 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.200 over the place just talking about the combined with the 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.640 podium obsessions, and was one of those guys that was 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.280 kind of low key. A lot of people weren't really 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.120 at his podium obsession. It was probably me and like 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.720 five or six other people. I have no idea why 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.200 it was that way, but he ended up being the 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.240 first round pick, so obviously a lot more people wanted 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.160 to talk to him after the fact. But I love 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.960 his background story. Both parents actually ran track in the 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.480 sec um. One went I went to Alabama and the 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.320 other ones to Old miss if I'm not mistaken. So 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.800 he had the genes and when he was coming out, 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.080 everybody knew that, but it was just his experience at 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.200 the position. He didn't have a whole bunch of it. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.720 But you turn on the tape him going against Alabama. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.680 I thought he played really well in that game for 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.240 the most part, and it's kind of just like he's 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.400 just playing off of his natural ability. He's not playing 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.280 with a lot of technique. He played wide receiver primarily 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.600 his first year in Auburn, then transition to the other 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.240 side of the ball, so you know, he has boss skills. Definitely, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:18.760 he can find the ball in the area. It's just 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.280 a matter of him just continued to get experienced reps 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.960 at the position, and with him playing in the slot, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.520 I think that's gonna help him a lot. But he 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.720 also can transition outside too, so he has that versatility 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.800 that coach Flow talks about all the time. So I 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:32.840 think he's gonna end up being a good player. But 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.520 it's just a matter of him just consistently and continuously 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.080 getting rips. He had some good bounceback reps late in 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.320 the season last year when he filled up front Xavien Howard, 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.400 who was ejected in the Cincinnati Bengals game with he 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.080 and Tyler Boyd getting into it there. But that is 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.800 neither here nor there. Let's go ahead and pivot to 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.800 the reason you're on the podcast. You're talking about this 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.040 draft class and Georgia. I went over your top fifty 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.200 big board. Here. What you guys can find on the 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.720 Draft Network here Jordan Reed, NFL draft analyst for the 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.480 Draft Network. Here on the Draft Time podcast. Please subscribe, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.800 rate review of the podcast, all that fun stuff for us. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.000 You've got three cornerbacks in your top twenty four, your 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.600 top twenty five, and then a safety at thirty one, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.640 another corner at thirty two, and that's it for your 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.880 top fifty. Let's go ahead and start with those first 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.520 four guys. Caleb Farley, J C. Horne, Patrick's Artan the second, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.760 and Greg Knewsome out of Northwestern. Which of those guys 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.160 are I should say, are all four of those guys 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.200 to you in the same tier? Is there a break 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.440 in there somewhere? And how do you separate those four 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.680 guys As far as first round guys, I think they're 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.480 all in the same tier. As far as ones that 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.640 I think that are going to go in the first round, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.400 I think Farley is probably the one that is a 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.520 little bit up in arms right now, just because everybody 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.800 has heard about the back injury. Will never know the 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.680 severity of that. That's up to each team's medical team 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.840 to determine how comfortable they are with that. But overall, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.840 I think he's want to be more talented of the bunch, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.600 but once again, you have the injury situation to factor 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.720 in with him. My favorite of the bunch actually is J. C. Horne. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.000 I love the NFL bloodlines with them that he and 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.680 Patrick certain have. But even though he's not as far 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.800 along technique wise as Farley or certain or even a Newsom, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.360 I just love the upside that he possesses in I'm 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.159 sure a lot of people and a lot of you 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.240 guys have been following him on social media or even 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.880 at his pro date. He is the ultimate competitor and 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.199 I just love that at the position just because, like 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.600 I said a bit earlier, and that I just love 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.120 players at the cornerback position that it extroverts. I love 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.520 them having that confidence. And if you think about the 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.639 elite talents at the position, that is one trade that 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.280 they always have in common. But certain I think he 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.960 probably is the most safe of the bunch, and for 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.000 lack of better words, just because he has the polish 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.280 central looking for at the position and he has what 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.240 I like to call a high floor. You know exactly 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.520 what you're getting from him and day won and that's 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.240