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Speaker 4: What do we have, Crystal, indeed, we do.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at Venezuela Barry Weiss's sixty minutes with

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Speaker 2: a terrible piece of propaganda that we will break down

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Speaker 2: for you. We're also going to update you on a

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Speaker 2: variety of stories with regard to Israel, but specifically we've

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Speaker 2: just had revealed a cover up of the murder of

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Speaker 2: that cover up. AI is coming for our jobs, and

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Speaker 2: we have new numbers and new statements from companies to

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Speaker 2: like things are going great there. Kamala apparently running for president. Unbelievable,

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Speaker 2: really quite extraordinary that she thinks that she has any

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Speaker 3: ahead and get to Venezuela. Ryan and I revealed quite

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Speaker 3: a bit behind the scenes about the Regime Change op

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Speaker 3: currently being spearheaded by Marco Rubio. They now have their

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Speaker 3: radio Rwanda in CBS News under Barry Weiss, where they've

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Speaker 3: broadcast a full on basically a commercial for Regime Change

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Speaker 3: in Venezuela. They're saying it's going to be a cakewalk.

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Speaker 3: They've got their leader, they have their Akmachalabi, they have

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Speaker 3: a one hundred hour plan how they can peacefully take power.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Their reports to the opposition says they have this one

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Speaker 6: There's no guarantee at all. And in fact, one of

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Speaker 6: this story, which is the Venezuelan armed forces. If anson

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Speaker 6: armed forces don't go along with this, and by the

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Speaker 6: who will give the orders, then there's a possibility perhaps

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Speaker 7: Well, armed Colombian gorilla groups that Maduro allows to operate

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Speaker 3: All the armed forces will just peacefully split apart and

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Speaker 3: unfortunately CBS News is instead broadcasting a commercial for regime change.

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Speaker 3: This is literally like a two thousand and two style report.

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Speaker 3: Iraq will be a cakewalk. We will be greeted as liberators.

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Speaker 3: Everybody will be happy. We have a great plan in

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Speaker 3: place and what could possibly go wrong here? And of course,

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Speaker 3: you know, implicit in all of this is the assumption

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Speaker 3: not true. I mean, that's one of those which drives

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Speaker 3: me crazy. They're literally blaming there were like half a

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Speaker 3: million Americans have died of fentanyl and that's on Nicholas.

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Speaker 3: It's not, it's it's literally not. Is some cocaine coming

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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, these are facts.

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Speaker 3: These are facts from the United States Intelligence Community classified

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Speaker 3: intel assessment as of now as I can report, and

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Speaker 3: as publicly available from the United Nations, from the United States,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it would have been nice to see that, really,

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Speaker 2: at what a bad guy Medora ultimately is.

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Speaker 4: So they interviewed this.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Bassard James Stories, the last American diplomat at the

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Speaker 2: not here to defend Madurea. I'm just saying, like, why

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Speaker 2: we never learn our lesson on how disastrous these things

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Speaker 2: are for our country, for their country, for the region, etc.

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Speaker 2: In any case, let's take a listen to that this is.

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Speaker 8: A very bad actor sitting on top of the world's

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Speaker 8: will fuel the twenty first century economy. And he's in

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Speaker 5: And how has he been able to cling to power

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Speaker 5: for as well as he has.

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Speaker 8: I mean, let's be very clear. This is a criminal

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Speaker 8: is under indictment for not cadist trafficking, commits human rights violations,

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Speaker 8: someone who has used the apparatus of the state to

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Speaker 2: Let's just keep in mind, Zagar, we are literally backing

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Speaker 3: For who sits atop the world's largest oil reserve in

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. People who torture, people who use an authority.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and this is what Look. I accept the premise. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you know he's bad and all that. I'll just say it.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. Like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: Venezuela's problems are Venezuela's, it is not ours. I do

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's stole the election or whatever.

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Speaker 3: They stole an election in Turkey, they stole an election

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Speaker 3: He cares about himself. He told America, have as much

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Speaker 3: Our friend Wanda vid Rojas put this up pleas on

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Speaker 3: the screen. A zero wrote this fantastic article. I really,

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Speaker 3: disposition of these Cuban and expatriate Venezuelan hawks who literally

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Speaker 3: occupy our government in the form of Marco Rubio, like

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Speaker 3: these people are deeply ideological. Rubio posted a photo of

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Speaker 3: Maduro next to Gaddafi in twenty nineteen, implying that the

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Speaker 1: That is the that.

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Speaker 3: Is the Secretary of State and the National Security advisor

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Speaker 3: of this administration. Trump is surrounded by Floridians. If you're

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Speaker 2: Think about the way Miriam Maddelson thinks about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I was about to go apply that to.

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Speaker 2: The way they feel about Venezuela and Cuba and Nicaragua.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what you hear about Venezuela all the time,

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Speaker 1: Like, no, I don't want to do with any of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Make a deal.

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Speaker 3: If they want prosperity, they can decide it for themselves.

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Speaker 3: They hate Maduro so much, rise up and overthrow them.

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Speaker 3: It's not my problem, you know, at the end of

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's been decades long. If they really care

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Speaker 1: Again, there are.

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Speaker 3: Multiple US back dictators all over the world who have

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Speaker 1: That's not enough for us.

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Speaker 3: And instead we're sending carrier strike groups, all kinds of

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. If I was Madru, I'd head

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Speaker 5: The firepower that's off the coast right, this is Ernald Mada,

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Speaker 2: And basically, thing's going to happen, whether it's going to

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Speaker 3: One of the Okay, again, if you care so much

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Speaker 1: You know what they did?

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Speaker 3: They said every one whose opposition is MOSAD, and they

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Speaker 3: Just to back up your point, let's go and put

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Speaker 1: This is from Miami Herald.

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Speaker 3: Venezuela just yesterday claimed to have captured a CIA group,

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Speaker 3: would they would they? Oh right, uss main, Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: let's get to the next part here. A four or

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Speaker 1: If you're wondering about.

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Speaker 9: We didn't have a declaration to go into Panama. Bush

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Speaker 9: this idea of rampaul I just fundamentally disagree with. To

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Speaker 10: Preventative self defense employed to counter non imminent threats is

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Speaker 9: No, not at all. I don't know what manual we're

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Speaker 3: I would find a way to leave before it goes down.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just exists anymore.

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Speaker 1: They love it.

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Speaker 3: They love it this way, and that's why there's been

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Speaker 4: Trump is doing a fundraiser.

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Speaker 3: way to the Caribbean to support quote anti drug operations

439
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. It can carry up to ninety aircraft.

440
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 3: It is the biggest increase of US firepower in the region.

441
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: The United States, by the way, I just checked this

442
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 3: now has more firepower in the Latin American region and

443
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 3: in the Caribbean than at any time since the Cuban

444
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 3: Missile crisis of nineteen sixty two. That is how extraordinary

445
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: the current US build up is. So we have CIA

446
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 3: operations gone on the ground, We've got regime change commercials

447
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: on sixty minutes, one of the most respected theoretically one

448
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: of the most respected names in news in the United States,

449
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: watched by some ten to fifteen million people. We have press,

450
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: which is basically silent about this entire thing. I have

451
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: yet to see a national Democratic politician or anyone make

452
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: a big deal out of.

453
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: This, you know.

454
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: Yet Listen, I'm here with you on the White House

455
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: East wing. Can somebody stand up about Venezuela. Please, I'm

456
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: begging for opposition for anything to say something, and no

457
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: organized politician or movement inside of the right like this

458
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: is a full on, full on bipartisan op at this point,

459
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: either from a tacit agreement or from just you know,

460
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: cheering it on outwardly. And yeah, I guess we'll all

461
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: own the consequences. You know, Vast numbers of vast numbers

462
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Speaker 3: of Venezuelans likely to you know, spread throughout the region.

463
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Speaker 3: It could cause a refugee crisis. It could, I mean literally,

464
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: it actually could go the Libya route, since that is

465
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 3: apparently what they want, and it could turn into an

466
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Speaker 3: actual drug capital ironically in the next five year, who

467
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: knows what's going on.

468
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Speaker 2: It could destabilize the region too, right, you know, the

469
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: fallout doesn't just stay contained to Venezuelan, and then a

470
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Speaker 2: miseration of.

471
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Speaker 4: The people there, you know, could destabilize that whole area.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's all it's all bad.

473
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: It's all bad.

474
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the next part here. This is about

475
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Speaker 3: just you know, by the way, if anybody's wondering about

476
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: our capacity for regime change and how excellent our military

477
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: is now at the moment, we had two horrible crashes

478
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: in the South China Sea with the President was asked

479
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Speaker 3: about recently, which highlights our lack of military readiness.

480
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Speaker 1: Let's take a lesson.

481
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Speaker 11: You can served on the incident on the mimits of

482
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Speaker 11: both a fighter jet and a helicopter.

483
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Speaker 6: I've heard, yeah, you know, what happened there was They're

484
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Speaker 6: gonna let me know pretty soon.

485
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Speaker 1: I think they should be able to find out.

486
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Speaker 12: It could be bad fuel.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean it's possible it's bad field.

488
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Speaker 7: Very unusual then that would happen to me.

489
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Speaker 11: I don't think there was foulay, and they think it

490
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Speaker 11: might be badfield.

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Speaker 8: We're going to find out.

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Speaker 3: So the President said there it could be bad fuel.

493
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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of questions here after this incident.

494
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Speaker 3: Let's put this up here on the screen. A US

495
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: Navy hell copter and a US fighter jet both crashed

496
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 3: in separate incidents in the South China Sea. So both

497
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: happened on October twenty six, two days ago, a Seahawk

498
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: helicopter went down at two forty five pm quote while

499
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: conducting routine operations from the USS Nimics. The helicopter was

500
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: assigned to a helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron. Search and Rescue

501
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: said that they rescued all three crew members, so thank

502
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: god that that happened. But following the incident, an FA

503
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: eighteen super Hornet assigned to a different strike fighter squadron

504
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: also crashed in the waters of the South China Sea.

505
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Speaker 3: Both of the crew members successfully ejected and they were

506
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Speaker 3: safely recovered. Now, the Nimets as one of literally the

507
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: largest aircraft carriers in the world and is supposed to

508
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: be one of the pride and joys of the US Navy,

509
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Speaker 3: and there's it's supposed to be decommissioned by the way,

510
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 3: and I think next year. But the point remains is

511
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: that this is supposed to be like a forward deployment

512
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: of a great you know, projecting power of the United

513
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Speaker 3: States military. And you have two set crashes and now

514
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: they're saying bad fuel.

515
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Speaker 1: How does that happen?

516
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Speaker 3: The reason I'm sticking with this is that there have

517
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: been a number of incidents that I always try to

518
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: highlight whenever we're trying to pour trillions dollars more into

519
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: our defense budget. Is at the basic level, like the

520
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 3: actual functional level, we're falling apart at the seams. So

521
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 3: we have awesome technology, the B two bomber Operation Midnight Hammer,

522
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Speaker 3: but from what I know, we barely had the fuel

523
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: infrastructure to refuel the bombers, like the stuff that actually

524
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: makes them all tick, and all the logistics in the

525
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: background is highly inefficient, rolled up destroyed by private equity, Raytheon,

526
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: Lockheed Martin all of these monopolies, there's been no competition

527
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Speaker 3: in the sector. It's highly inefficient to cost unbelievable amounts

528
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Speaker 3: of money. It's like hundreds of thousands of dollars per

529
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Speaker 3: flight hour to keep these things up.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we've also been circling Venezuela for some

532
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Speaker 3: reason more recently. So I just wanted to high the

533
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: story just to show you all there's no cakewalk in

534
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: the United States military. In fact, you know, despite the

535
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: trillion dollars that we spend now per year, it's probably

536
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: never been less efficient at the actual like functional level

537
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: of all of this high priced technology. And what did

538
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: we all notice in with the hoo thies is that

539
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: a very small force with no real organization, no nation

540
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: state or anything effectively was able to conduct all of

541
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: these operations without being stopped, despite almost a billion dollars

542
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: or more worth of missiles that were fired at them.

543
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: So everyone just keep that in mind. The asymmetric threat

544
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 3: that we have witnessed now from China, from Russia, from

545
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: Ukraine and others just shows you how I mean, Ukraine

546
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: is a perfect example. Is you have this massive Russian military,

547
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: supposedly all technologically advanced, and the Ukrainians just come in

548
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: with these drones and are able to screw them up.

549
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: It's not hard, right, and we've seen that happen against

550
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: US China. Apparently there's all kinds of experiments going on

551
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: on the battlefield. So just a flag for anyone. You know,

552
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people out there like we have

553
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: the world's best military. We certainly have a great military,

554
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: but it is not all that is sometimes cracked.

555
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Speaker 1: Up to me. And these are always what I point to.

556
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah example, I mean there's two pieces here. There's like, okay,

557
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: well what the hell actually happened?

558
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: Number one?

559
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: And Number two is Seth Harp, who wrote Fort Bragg

560
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: Kartel and whose incredible journalist tracks military readiness.

561
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Speaker 4: This is kind of his beat.

562
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: He said, Seventeen Army helicopter crashes in twenty twenty four,

563
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Speaker 2: the midair collision over the Potomac this January. Three fighter

564
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: jets that simply fell into the Red Sea in April

565
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: and May. That was with regard to the Hoofies. Another

566
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: whole helicopter crew lost last month. And now this unmitigated

567
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: chaos and incompetence in US military ages.

568
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Speaker 1: Right, he pretty much sums up. He's absolutely right.

569
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Speaker 3: And there's been numbers of these safety incidents all the time.

570
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: In the Persian Gulf, there was an incident recently which

571
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: actually you know, a couple of guys were killed. Just

572
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: to highlight that Yemen thing. This is just from a

573
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: couple months ago. Put a ten please up on the screen.

574
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: Second US fighter jet falls overboard from the Truman Aircraft Carrier.

575
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Speaker 3: Just the second time in eight days a US fighter

576
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Speaker 3: jet was lost to the Red Sea.

577
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: Let's see it.

578
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: I can look teen super hornet. So my ballpark is

579
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Speaker 3: like sixty seventy million, what is it?

580
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Speaker 1: Let's it say?

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna guess like seventy million. Yep, we are

582
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: all right here you go sixty between sixty I swear

583
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, that's and by the way, that's a

584
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: cheap one. Just they're all aware that's a cheap one

585
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: sixty to seventy million dollars. So that's one hundred and

586
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: forty million that just slid into the sea. What did

587
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: they say there was like rough seas or something. I'm like,

588
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: something tells me that in World War two, whenever we

589
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 3: were fighting the Japanese with limited radar and it was

590
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Speaker 3: one of the great sea forces that the world had

591
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: ever seen, that they also had rough seas and it

592
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: didn't happen all that often. Just my you know, personal thought.

593
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: So it's one of those where when I look at this,

594
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Speaker 3: I just see it and it's not on the service members.

595
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Speaker 1: It's really not.

596
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: It's on the higher ups, and it's on the design.

597
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: It's on the structural design of all of these monopolies

598
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: of focusing on the wrong thing, of being excited by

599
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: flashy technology and not on the guns and the bullets

600
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: and the ability to just function at a very basic level.

601
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Speaker 3: And to the extent, Russia has found success on the

602
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Speaker 3: battlefield in Ukraine. It's because they operate more like a

603
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: World War One military than any modern military. They need men,

604
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: they need ammunition, and they need shit at home that

605
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: produces ammunition. That's all you need and you can actually

606
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: be quite successful. So yeah, and oil by the way

607
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 3: to sell to other people. And that's it. You know,

608
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: we don't need AI or data centers or any of

609
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: that stuff. It's nice, it's definitely nice to have, but

610
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: it's not going to win in the long run. And

611
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: so you can see all the signs here for catastrophic

612
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: failure if something ever popped off, who knows, I.

613
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Speaker 2: Mean, we bounced all of our capacity. Of course, military

614
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: industrial complex it's a bunch of monopolies.

615
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: I mean, knowing people who work in the space.

616
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: You know, on the government side, they talk about how

617
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: if you want to get like you know, Locke or

618
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: Boeing on the phone or what like, you can't.

619
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Speaker 4: You can't.

620
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: Like they think there's so far above the you know,

621
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: the government, the people they're supposed to be interfacing with.

622
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: They're completely unaccountable and the cost overruns are insane. This

623
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: is a big part of the reason why the Pentagon

624
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: fails every audit and it's like not even close. So

625
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: all of this money that we're spending in defense and

626
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, and have pathetic incidences like this, and you know,

627
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: all sorts of problems right thround the entire complex.

628
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: Bad. Yeah, and that's why you know they want to

629
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: overthrow Venezuela. Like maybe maybe it also could be a

630
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: total disaster, you know, it really could be.

631
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: And that's one of the course where right.

632
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: Back to our whole democracy.

633
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: Building, democracy building, we're going to collapse the regime. We're

634
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: not gonna put any foods on the ground.

635
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: It's so easy, mission accomplished, hundred hour.

636
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: Plan USAID, USAID will magically just install this leader and

637
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: it'll all work out for the best.

638
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: Right, That's what always happens in the story.

639
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: We learn nothing, we learn nothing. We deserve what we get,

640
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 2: I guess all right, So you guys have recalled back.

641
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, Palestinian American prominent journalists Shrine Abu

642
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Accle was murdered by IDF soldiers. Now in the wake

643
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: of this, of course, the IDF said, oh, we had

644
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it, and there were other you know,

645
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Palestinian fighters in the area. But don't worry, We're going

646
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: to conduct our own investigation. And the Palestinians also conducted

647
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: their own investigation and found and by the way, New

648
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: York Times and journalistic outlets also conducted their investigations, came

649
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: to the conclusion pretty clear that, you know, Sharen, who

650
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: was wearing a pross best and her photographers also wearing

651
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: press bests, that they were directly targeted by the IDF.

652
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: There were no you know, Palestinian resistance fighters in the

653
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Speaker 2: area whatsoever. The only people that were firing was this.

654
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Speaker 2: You know, they were able to pinpoint a specific IDF

655
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Speaker 2: soldier who ultimately killed her. It was horrific, I mean,

656
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: just absolutely horrific story, and our government felt some pressure

657
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Speaker 2: to do an investigation because of her American citizenship and

658
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Speaker 2: because of how incredibly prominent this was. Emily has talked

659
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: a lot about how covering the story and realizing how

660
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: blatantly the Israelis were lying was a big part of

661
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: her evolution in changing the way that she was thinking

662
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: about our relationship to Israel. So, you know it, and

663
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: I know Emily is not the only one. So that's

664
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Speaker 2: part of why this was an incredibly important story, not

665
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: to mention just an American journalists being targeted murdered by

666
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: the IDF. So in any case, Zeteo was able to

667
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: speak to a whistleblower a while back, who at the

668
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: time Renee remained anonymous, who said, I was the guy

669
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: who led the investigation on the American side to this.

670
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Speaker 2: We concluded with a high level of certainty that it

671
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Speaker 2: was IDF, that she was directly targeted, that they did

672
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Speaker 2: know that she was pressed. And yet my superior said, Nope,

673
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: we're going to take that conclusion out of our report,

674
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: and we're going to say couldn't say don't know. Let's

675
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: go ahead and take a listen to Mehdi interviewing Colonel Gavioviks.

676
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: He's the whistleblowers, initially anonymous, now coming forward publicly to

677
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: talk about his experience and this cover up of the

678
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: murder of an American journalist.

679
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 12: What was the assessment you submit to General Michael Fenzel,

680
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 12: the US Security Coordinator when you come back from Janine,

681
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 12: And what does he say.

682
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 13: In response, so our initial assessment, what do you give

683
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 13: the assessment probably about on the nineteenth or twentieth, after

684
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Speaker 13: looking through everything in detail, and I passed this to

685
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 13: both Ambassador Knights and Lieutenant General Fenzil that my findings

686
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 13: were beyond reasonable doubt that this was an intentional killing

687
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Speaker 13: of Shrina Bakla.

688
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Speaker 12: This is on the nineteenth or twentieth of May twenty

689
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Speaker 12: twenty two. Yes, this is within ten days. Yes of

690
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 12: her killing. Yes, you on behalf of the United States

691
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 12: government are saying that beyond reasonable that that's a legal

692
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 12: standard in a criminal call. Yes, it is she was

693
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 12: intentionally killed, correct, not accidentally, not crossfire, not collateral damage.

694
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Speaker 1: Correct.

695
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 12: What does he say?

696
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 9: So?

697
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 13: He said that point in time that he had heard

698
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 13: from General Fuchs the day that the incident happened. This

699
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 13: is an Israeli general in natal general he was the

700
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 13: central command commander that General Fuchs came and told them

701
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 13: that it was very power that an Israeli's shoulder had

702
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 13: killed him or had killed her. Sorry, but that it

703
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 13: was an accident, that it was a matter of tragic circumstances.

704
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 13: But they that was the story that he stuck to.

705
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 13: He said, Geno. Fuchs told me this, so I believe

706
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 13: it was not intentional.

707
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 12: So the US general takes the word of a foreign

708
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 12: general over his own officer who he sent to investigate

709
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 12: that is correct. How did you feel about that?

710
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 13: I felt very disappointed and upset about that, and I

711
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 13: continued to try to convince him throughout for the next

712
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 13: two years. Honestly, as we continue to work on the

713
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 13: investigation for.

714
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Speaker 4: It wild stuff.

715
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: So the American investigator comes up, you know, evaluates the evidence, says,

716
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: beyond a reasonable doubt, they murdered her. It was intentional,

717
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: they knew she was pressed. And his superior says, what

718
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: I talked to this is really general. He says, it's

719
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: an accident. So that's what we're going with. That's what

720
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: we're going with. We're putting that over your investigation. What

721
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: you have to say. And keep in mind, this is

722
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: supposed to be an independent investigation, separate and apart from

723
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: the Israelis, but it is not. At the end of

724
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: the day, they just instead of looking at their own

725
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: evidence that our government compiled, they go with the word

726
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: of this Israeli general. We can put the New York

727
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: Times stair sheet up on the screen. They wrote up

728
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: this story too. They said, US assessment of Israeli shooting

729
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: of journalists divided American officials.

730
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Speaker 1: Nameless journalist, Well, yeah.

731
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Speaker 4: Nameless journalists, very lame headline.

732
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: In any case, if you read this report, they lay

733
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: out the reasons why Colonel Gaviovic's thought that this shooting

734
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: was deliberate. Number One, records of Israeli military radio traffic

735
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: that morning before the shooting showed that the soldiers were

736
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: aware of journalists in the area, and there had been

737
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: no gunfire coming from the journalist direction that might make

738
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: the Israeli soldiers likely to shoot toward them in self defense.

739
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: There was an Israeli military vehicle down the road from

740
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Speaker 2: Misabu Okla that morning. A sniper watching the road from

741
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: inside the vehicle would have been able to see the

742
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: journalists clearly. When he visited the scene of the shooting

743
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: hours after it occurred, he said, his colleagues, wearing blue

744
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: vest similar to miss Abu Acclay's Navy blue protective vest

745
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: mark press positioned themselves where she had fallen. They were

746
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 2: visible to him from where the shooter's vehicle had been.

747
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: He said.

748
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: The precision of the shots hitting miss Abu Aclay's head

749
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: and a carab tree near her did not suggest an

750
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: uncontrolled spray of gunfire. That, together with the fact the

751
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: shooter fired first at miss Abu Acclay's producer then heard

752
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: then at a passerby who tried to help, indicated to

753
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: him the shooting was deliberate.

754
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: Quote.

755
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: For the shooting to be accidental, the most absurd thing

756
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: in the world would have had to happen.

757
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: He said.

758
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: The individual popped out of the truck just was randomly

759
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: shooting and happened to have really well aimed shots and

760
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: never looked down the scope, which would not have happened.

761
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: So that was the actual evidence on the scene. Again,

762
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: New York Times and other outlets did investigations at the

763
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: time came to very similar conclusions, backed up with the

764
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: Palestinian said about the incident. And yet Soger they and

765
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: this was under the Biden administration. They heard from this

766
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Israeli general. They don't want to screw up their relationship

767
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: with these They were afraid of the Israelis pulling their

768
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: cooperation and support for whatever intelligence sharing and gathering operations

769
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: that they were conducting together, so they just went with

770
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: the li instead.

771
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Speaker 3: What I think is so important about the story is

772
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: that number one had happened under the Biden administration, and

773
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 3: two this happened before October seventh, Just to show everybody

774
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: how you know, dominating the relationship and the influence was

775
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: even in that environment, and to the level to which

776
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: the Biden administration abandoned a citizen of the United States

777
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: of America on the word of Israel. And by the way,

778
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: these are United States colonels and generals, you know, generally

779
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: not the most liberal folks, right. These are people who

780
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: are probably just wanting to do their jobs, their officers

781
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: security coordination. They're given the task investigator the shooting. They

782
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: take this job seriously. They conduct their examination, they say

783
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: that the shooting aft was intentional based upon their findings,

784
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: and then they are outwardly shunned inside of the administration,

785
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: shunted aside, and the report itself comes out and paris

786
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: the Israeli line. I mean, even, by the way, what's

787
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: so crazy is that the FBI declined to investigate because,

788
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: according to the colonel, it had been requested not to

789
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: do so by Israel.

790
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: So they said, even though.

791
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: Current protocol apparently would have been that the FBI had

792
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 3: to open its own investigation, that the Israelis had not

793
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: been requested to do so because they didn't want real

794
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: law enforcement people to come in and they wanted to

795
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: leave it as ambiguous as possible.

796
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: They say.

797
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: It eventually did open up its investigation, but three years

798
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: later has quote not released any findings nor said when

799
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: it might do so. In the immediate aftermath, they assigned

800
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: this team, which again is not even a real investigative

801
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: agency to you know, to trajectory of. But this is

802
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: not there, this is not what they do generally. And

803
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: even these guys, you know, overcome all those obstacles. They

804
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: take the jobs seriously and they're like, yeah, Israel, they

805
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 3: did it, and not only it was intentional, and then

806
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: so it was It's basically it's like in a movie.

807
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: When you want something to remain covered up, you don't

808
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: give it to the proper investigating agency, give it to

809
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: somebody who's incompetent. But then the incompetent agency, you know,

810
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: has people or not incompetent, but it's not their specialty.

811
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: And then they take the job seriously and they uncover

812
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: the truth and they're like, oh my god, now what

813
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: do we do. That's quite literally what happened, Like it's

814
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: it's one of the most classic tales of government.

815
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: It's corruption.

816
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: It's shocking, it is shocking, and it's also I mean

817
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: it's also worth saying, you know, now, after two plus

818
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: years of a genocide, how many how many members of

819
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: the press have been murdered by Israel r like, And

820
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: it's so many and so frequent that you don't you

821
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: can't have this level of public pressure and public scrutiny.

822
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: You know, this time, when they murdered Sharen, they were

823
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: still you know, trying to uphold this view in the world.

824
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: Oh, we would never do that.

825
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you remember them in the beginning phases of

826
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: their assault on Gaza. We would never attack a host,

827
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: We never attack a most We've never attacked the press.

828
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: Now they just do whatever the hell they want because

829
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: they've gotten away with it. And so, you know, I

830
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: think what's important about digging into this is number one

831
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: is American and it's a member of the press. So

832
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: understanding what happened in our government's own complicity is extremely

833
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: vital in the public interest. But it is also such

834
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: a roadmap of how Israel was able to get to

835
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: this place where they operate with just total and complete impunity,

836
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: because you did have a situation here where there was

837
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: enough pressure that the government followed. Okay, well, at least

838
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: we have to do something, and that was important because

839
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: if that didn't happen, then we would never have this

840
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: moment now where we've got a whistleblower coming forward who's

841
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: exposing these inner workings of how this all goes down.

842
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: But if you want to know how they got away with,

843
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, mass darvation and turning all of Gaza into

844
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: complete and total rubble, and targeting innocent civilians, you know,

845
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 2: killing tens of thousands of children at the very least

846
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: and largest population of child amputees. If you want to

847
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: know how we got to the point where they could

848
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: get away with it, it's step by step by step

849
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: through all of these actions where there's complete impunity, where

850
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: we just take their word, where we follow their lead,

851
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: where we do their dirty work, where they.

852
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: Cover up for their murder of our own citizen.

853
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: That's how you get to a place where they can

854
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: act with such total and complete impunity and absolutely no accountability.

855
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

856
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's by the way, dot forget how the Biden

857
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: administration played this at the time.

858
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Speaker 1: Here was their initial response.

859
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Speaker 11: We have been very clear and consistent about first condemning

860
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Speaker 11: the tragic killing of Charine, but also when both the

861
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 11: US's report as well as the IDs report last summer

862
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 11: went public. We have spoken consistently about the need and

863
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 11: the call for accountability in this case, and we continue

864
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 11: to do so. However, as is consistent from the IDF's

865
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 11: finding as well as the finding of the US Security Coordinator,

866
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 11: is that this was not intentional. It was a tragic

867
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 11: due to very tragic circumstances. So yes, we continue to

868
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 11: seek accountability for Charene. We finish well, and that is

869
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 11: the one of the ways in which we are doing so,

870
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 11: in ensuring that when it comes to rules of engagement,

871
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 11: we're working on those issues in concert and in partnership

872
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 11: with our Israeli counterparts to ensure that civilians and journalists

873
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 11: and members of the media are not put in harm's way.

874
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: So well, how did that hold up?

875
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Right now that laudability goes? Oh way, that dude, veydon't. Patel,

876
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: who for the record does not look like me, is

877
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: currently employed at a public affairs firm here in Washington

878
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: and is doing quite well, which also does work for

879
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: the Israel.

880
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, s KDK, which is probably the best known democratic

881
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah a pr shop, and yeah it works for the Israelis.

882
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: So I guess he ended up exactly where he is

883
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: meant to end up. We'd have a few other updates

884
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: wanted to bring you guys with regard to what's going

885
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: on in Gaza right now.

886
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: It can put be four up on the screen.

887
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: This is a good piece of reporting SKY News revealing

888
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: that Israel's backing four different anti hill mass militias operating

889
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: behind the quote unquote Yellow line that's the ceasefire boundary

890
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: for IDF troops. So you know, they talk about how

891
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: these groups operate within less than seven hundred meters from

892
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: Israeli positions. They coordinate logistics supply deliveries with the IDF

893
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: through the Karam Shalom crossing. Sky found similar coordination Northern

894
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: Gosa malicious receiving aid and vehicles via Israeli and Palestine

895
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: authority channels, and possible Gulf backing including ties to UAE

896
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: linked forces in Yemen. So you know, at least one

897
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: of these gangs was linked to actual terrorists. We can

898
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: put the B five up on the screen. This is

899
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: kind of crazy Washington Post publishing this propaganda from one

900
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: of those gangs about how you know the life on

901
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: the Israeli side of the Yellow line is so great,

902
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: and how you know speaking for all Palestinians that they

903
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: all just you know, want to reject Hamas, but they're

904
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: kept on under Hamas's brutal thumb. So just you know,

905
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: published publishing the like total propaganda from a gang leader,

906
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: something the Wall Street Journal had also done, by the way,

907
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: and then you've got the White House amplifying it as well.

908
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: So major si up going on here.

909
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: And then one other thing I wanted to note this

910
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: is on the positive side, but B six up on

911
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 2: the screen Glamour magazine naming Miss Rachel as their women

912
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: of we are very much deserved.

913
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Shout out to Miss Rachel.

914
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: Miss Rachel.

915
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've been I don't know the whole thing.

916
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: Between Venezuela between this, I just don't know if the

917
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: press is cut out for this because at every turn

918
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: what we see is they I think I described it

919
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: like as a chess board, and that they report each

920
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: individual move without reporting whether it's going to checkmate or not,

921
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: like the overall.

922
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: What's happened before? What is this building towards? Is there

923
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: a plan? Is a building towards anything exactly?

924
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 3: So like on Venezuela, right, you can only a reconable

925
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: person watches that commercial and is like, oh my god,

926
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: like this is happening, and it's happening for this this

927
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: and this reason. Even in the New York Times headline,

928
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: they were like journalists, it's like, what kind an American one?

929
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Palestinian one?

930
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: Not that you particularly care, right, you know, what's what

931
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: does that mean? What does that demonstrate? You know?

932
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: They just write it up as straight fact.

933
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 3: They don't even give any personal context, and of course

934
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: it's not like anybody really cares. Like in the broader environment.

935
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: Same with this whole ceasefire created two gazas, and my

936
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: gaza is ready for peace. I'm like, who are you?

937
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: Do you give any context of who that person is.

938
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: It's like, look, i mean people think I'm joking, Like

939
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: this is literally how Iraq and all of that played out.

940
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: Chalabi and those people were literally publishing op eds in

941
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: the Washington Post. The entire surge strategy was all dictated

942
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: in the opinion pages of Washington. I'm not joking, like,

943
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: this is all part of the apparatus where things are

944
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: meant to be sent to one another, and maybe it's

945
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: forgivable the first time.

946
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: It happens, but it's happened.

947
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: I'm over and I mean, first of all, it's happened

948
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: throughout modern history, but in particular in this moment, Like

949
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: if you lived through Iraq, like you have to be

950
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: alter Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, you know, Libya, Afghanistan, if you

951
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: live through those, how can you possibly just disregard the blinders.

952
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: It's like, I just don't understand how it all works.

953
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: What do you think was with Israel? What do you

954
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: think was the turning point that led people like Marjorie

955
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: Taylor Green, Tucker, you know, Charlie Kirk was starting to

956
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: ask questions, Kay, what do you because previously they were,

957
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: you know, pro Israel. Most these people, certainly Marjorie Taylor

958
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Green was Tucker just sort of like, you know, standards,

959
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: you could serve a line.

960
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: What do you think caused the flip?

961
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Two things? Number one that just like sheer barbarity. Two

962
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: is the is the level of control, because I think

963
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: there's something deeply American about we control our own destiny.

964
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: And so to see politicians so overtly subsume themselves to

965
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: a foreign political cause, it's just disgusting, you know, to

966
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: me personally, and I think as to a lot of them.

967
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: That latter part is a huge, huge reason why a

968
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: lot of people are willing to speak out it against it.

969
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: But I mean, you can't really underestimate the sheer barbarity

970
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: of it as well. I mean, I'm not going to

971
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: say that the US has not been complicit in a

972
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 3: lot of barbaricacts throughout the world, but it's really one

973
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: thing to like fund it, to go to extraordinary links

974
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: here at home to quash descent over it's just too much, right.

975
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: It's one of those where the level of propaganda for

976
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: a war which at the end of the day did

977
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 3: not really matter to America and if anything, it would

978
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: have been better for us if it had ended a

979
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: long long time ago. That was just it was a

980
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: jump point for a lot of people, and then the

981
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: traditional talking points just all become bs right, like beacon

982
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: of Western civilization.

983
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: You're like really, like, you know, you're.

984
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: Always talking about how great you are compared to your

985
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: Middle Eastern neighbors.

986
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you look the same to me.

987
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, you know, if you want to look at barbers,

988
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: if anything, you know, at this point, yeah, you know

989
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: what I mean, Right.

990
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

991
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, the Saudis are such backward folks, they

992
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: cut people's heads off. I'm like, wow, that would be crazy,

993
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't it. You know, it's or they're like, oh, the

994
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: Middle Eastern cultures, you know, fetishize rape. I'm like, oh, yeah,

995
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 3: that's something you definitely never would do in a prison,

996
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: and then your own civilization would bust you out of

997
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: the jail for it.

998
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 9: Right.

999
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: So it's when those things start to fall apart, it's

1000
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: it's too much for us.

1001
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just me.

1002
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: By the way, one of the rabbis who is prominent

1003
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: and spreading the mass rape hoax arrested for pedophilia in Texas, alleged.

1004
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: But actually arrested.

1005
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think, as far as I can tell,

1006
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: wasn't able to flee the country.

1007
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Well for now on bail. Now, we'll see.

1008
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye on that.

1009
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody monitor those flights to Tel Aviv and tell

1010
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: me if you see them. Turning now to the economy,

1011
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: the AI revolution in the job force continues. Go and

1012
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: put this up here on the screen. This is a

1013
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: tweet from Senator Bernie Sanders, quote stop hiring humans. A

1014
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 3: new billboard says the era of AI employees is here.

1015
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: Billboards across the country promoting their replacement of millions of

1016
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: jobs with AI and robotics.

1017
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Great idea.

1018
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: One simple question, how will does displaced workers survive when

1019
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: there are no jobs or income for them? This is

1020
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: increasingly the question that many companies and young people are

1021
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: going to have to answer. Let's put this up here

1022
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: on the screen. It backs up much of what I

1023
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: have been saying. Now is that quote more big companies

1024
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: bet they can still grow without hiring quote. It is

1025
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: the corporate gamble of the moment. Can you run a

1026
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: company increase sales and juice profits without adding people. American

1027
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: employers are increasingly making the calculation they can keep the

1028
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: sized teams flat or shrink them through layoffs without harming

1029
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: their business. Part of that thinking is that AI will

1030
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: be used to pick up the slack and automate more processes.

1031
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 3: Companies are hesitant to make any moves in an economy

1032
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: that is still uncertain. JP Morgan's chief financial officer told

1033
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: investors recently the bank has now quote a very strong

1034
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: bias against having the reflective response to hire more people

1035
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: for any given need. Multiple other companies last week had

1036
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: sales rose even without adding employees. Financial Services companies like

1037
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: Goldman Sachs said that the firm will constrain headcount growth

1038
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: through the end of the year and reduce roles that

1039
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: will be more efficient with AI. Walmart, the nation's private employer,

1040
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: said it would keep headcount roughly flat over the next

1041
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: three years, even as sales grow. Multiple other companies that

1042
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: they list now say that they will be reducing their

1043
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: headcount because of AI and the ROI of AI is increasing,

1044
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: apparently on their conference call mentions of chief financial service officers.

1045
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: By the way, just this morning, huge news out of

1046
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: a couple of major companies. I believe we have one

1047
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 3: of them on Amazon. Do we have that, No, we don't, Okay,

1048
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: So this morning, yeah, Amazon is announcing thirty thousand corporate

1049
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: employees will be cut from the company, fourteen thousand immediately.

1050
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: Ten percent of the entire white collar workforce will be

1051
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: asked from the company. By the way, another huge piece

1052
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: of news, arguably in my opinion, more important. Ups will

1053
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: now cut forty eight thousand jobs in management and operations.

1054
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: That is some disclosed it would cut twenty thousand positions previously. Shares,

1055
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: by the way, are up twelve percent market trading.

1056
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: So the facts when you fire people.

1057
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: The fact that UPS is going to fire forty eight

1058
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: thousand management and operations people shows that, and by the

1059
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: way that the stock goes up, that actually might be

1060
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: the most AI firing of all time, because now is

1061
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: the time when you don't fire people, because we're going

1062
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: into Christmas season November and December that's usually when they

1063
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: surge temporary hiring. They may actually still do that just

1064
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: for the average packer, shippers, delivery people, et cetera. But

1065
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: the management and operations they're probably just trying to automate

1066
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: all of those procedures.

1067
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a grim amount here.

1068
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 3: You're cutting ten percent of people at Amazon again November December,

1069
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: the busiest months at the whole company, some fourteen percent

1070
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: or ten percent of your entire workforce before Christmas. Now

1071
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: you have UPS here being fied forty eight thousand people.

1072
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: You have the open acknowledgment I've talked here about how

1073
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: AI is just like more Excel corporate sludge ninety percent

1074
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: of the time. Is you no longer have to have

1075
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: a guy who takes minutes for a meeting. It summarizes

1076
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: your stuff, It can help you put power points together,

1077
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: it can check your commas, your periods and your footnotes

1078
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: and automate them. That's usually the grunt work that most

1079
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: twenty two year olds get hired in the white collar workforce,

1080
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: and now all of those are slowly starting to erode.

1081
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: So if you're a new hire out there and you

1082
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: took some fifty sixty thousand dollars in debt.

1083
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: You're screwed, screwed. It's really it's dark. It is dark.

1084
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: It is I mean, and it's here, right, this is

1085
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: not coming, it's here. You're going to see it through

1086
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: two different modes. One is these big layoffs like we're

1087
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: seeing with Amazon and Ups. Both of them are important

1088
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: industry leaders both within their space and also nationally. Other

1089
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: countries are going, I mean, other companies are going to

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Speaker 2: see that and follow suit. Amazon also, we covered last

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Speaker 2: week New York Times got their hands on internal document

1092
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 2: showing that they're planning to get rid of six hundred

1093
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: thousand blue collar workers over the coming years. With those

1094
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: because Amazon has such extra ordinary churn, they're just planning

1095
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: as people leave because they can no longer take the

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00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: physical stress and burden of you know, working in an

1097
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: Amazon warehouse or as an Amazon delivery driver, as those

1098
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: people leave, they're just not going to be replaced. And

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00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: I think we're going to see a lot of that too.

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Speaker 2: And that's what these companies who spoke to the Wall

1101
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: Street Journal, that's what they're indicating is, oh, you know

1102
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: Susie laugh. Normally we'd hire to replace Susie. Now we're

1103
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: just not going to We're just going to allow that

1104
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: sort of churn to lower our overall headcount and sub

1105
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 2: in ai to make our existing workforce, you know, pick

1106
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: up all the slack for the workers that no longer

1107
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: are here. And yes, of course all the incentives, all

1108
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: of the Wall Street and incentives are to move in

1109
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: that direction. So I mean, I really appreciate Bernie God

1110
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: bless them, like he must have the most incredible genetics,

1111
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 2: because man has not slowed down. Still extremely sharp, still

1112
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: absolutely with it in terms of the threats that is

1113
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: facing the American workforce, really the global workforce at this point.

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Speaker 4: And here's the other thing.

1115
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: Let's fo see four up on the screen and then

1116
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: we can get Sager's pull out from this. But Wall

1117
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: Street Journal also had a piece about the economy that's

1118
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: great for parents, Lozzy for their grown up kids.

1119
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 4: So you know, if you're someone who was.

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Speaker 2: Able to get your college education was relatively inexpensive, and

1121
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: you you know, at that point in time, you could

1122
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: just get a job out of college, stable career, climb

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00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: your way up the ladder. Housing was a lot less expensive,

1124
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: healthcare was a lot less expensive. Now you have assets,

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00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, now you're in the stock mar you're four A,

1126
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: one K. All those sorts of things are doing good.

1127
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: And meanwhile your kids, who did you know, trying to

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00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: follow the same track, go to college, take on the debt,

1129
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: come out of college, and there's nothing for them. The

1130
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: unemployment rate for new college grads is going up and

1131
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: up and up. Now, partly it's because people are worried

1132
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: about a recession and all the tariff insanity and everything

1133
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: that's going on, and partly it is because of AI

1134
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: and put C three up on the screen. This was

1135
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: the piece that Soccer highlighted in particular. This chart is

1136
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: this is really really dire stuff. You know, in terms

1137
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: of the fulfillment of the population, in terms of the

1138
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: stability of the society as well, you only have eleven

1139
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: percent of eighteen to twenty nine year olds who have

1140
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: confidence that they will be able to buy a home.

1141
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: But all of these numbers are actually really bad. So

1142
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: you only have you know, just over twenty five percent

1143
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: who say they can keep up with expenses. By the way,

1144
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: numbers are not all that much better for those who

1145
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 2: are thirty and older.

1146
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: You're under thirty five percent. Maybe that's like thirty three.

1147
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: Percent who are confident they can just keep up with

1148
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: their expenses. You know, for eighteen to twenty nine, you

1149
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 2: have under twenty percent who think they can buy a car.

1150
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: Also under twenty percent, maybe that's around sixteen percent who

1151
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: say they could pay an unexpected medical expense. You have

1152
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: under twenty five percent who are confident they could find

1153
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: a good job. Fifteen percent say that they're confident they

1154
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: could have enough savings for retirement. And I've been reading

1155
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: this book by Peter Turchin about when societies like collapse,

1156
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: and his analysis is that the two major factors that

1157
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: lead to sort of like societal breakdown and revolution are

1158
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: decline and material living standards. And in the US context,

1159
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: he looks at the decline in life expectancy, which is,

1160
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, undeniable. And there's this mass disparity too between

1161
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: the wealthy and the poor, et cetera. But that we're

1162
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: going backwards in terms of life expectancy. And the other

1163
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: thing is what he calls overproduction of elites. So if

1164
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: you have a large cohort that are going to college

1165
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: doing the thing, getting their law degrees or getting their MBAs,

1166
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: thinking that they're going to be able to ascend not

1167
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: into like the top echelon, but into some level of

1168
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: like I'm going to have a house and have a

1169
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: basic stable life, and the society is failing to deliver that.

1170
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: Those are actually we think about like the you know,

1171
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: the working class revolution. Those are the people who traditionally

1172
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: become the radicals in the revolutionaries actually frustrated would be

1173
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: elite man.

1174
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Speaker 1: I wish you had more time. I could go on forever.

1175
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: But you are absolutely correct.

1176
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: Something I've always said in some of my arguments with

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00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: a lot of Marxists and socialists, one of the things

1178
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: that annoys me is they're always like, the working class

1179
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: will rise up. I'm like, what do you tell me

1180
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: about the Russian Revolution, And they're like, oh, well, it

1181
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 3: was a people's revolution. I'm like, no, it actually was

1182
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: a revolution of the elites. If you read any true

1183
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: biography or history of the Russian Revolution of Bolshevism and

1184
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: specifically of Marxist Leninism. You will discover that the peasant

1185
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: population of Russia was the most supportive of the czar.

1186
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: The reason that the Tsar fell was because he lost

1187
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 3: the entire support of the political echelon, from everyone from

1188
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: the royals to the middle tier to the bourgeoisie. Those

1189
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: were the people that rose up against the Tzar and

1190
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: toppled him. The way that the Bolsheviks were able to

1191
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: take powers basically have a bunch of highly educated, you know,

1192
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 3: former members of the echelon or the gentry class who

1193
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: come in and that's part of the reason that they

1194
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: target the so called Kulocks at the very beginning in

1195
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: order to subjugate the population. But the point remains not

1196
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: just in the Russian context, even in the French Revolution.

1197
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: If you look at any true violent overthrow, it's these

1198
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 3: people specifically. This is why I look at Zoron as

1199
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: a you know, very say consequence of all of this.

1200
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Speaker 1: Republicans are always dunking on. They're like, oh, you have

1201
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: white middle class people.

1202
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: I go, yeah, But you got to understand if you're

1203
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: twenty five years old or twenty seven and you move

1204
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: to New York. You know, the prototypical profile is somebody

1205
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: who has like fifty to seventy thousand dollars or whatever,

1206
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: maybe some more in student debt, was promised a job

1207
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: in X, Y and Z and white collar workforce. And

1208
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: when the cost of living is where it is to

1209
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: have a basic life, from health insurance to cost of

1210
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: living to rent, et cetera, it is so untenable that

1211
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: it leads you to believe that the absolute basics of

1212
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: your needs will ever be met.

1213
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: So what do you do.

1214
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: You know you're going to cause you're going to back

1215
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: some radical shit. I think that this is a lot

1216
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: of the case for a lot of Trump people as well.

1217
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: So the point remains that if you do not serve

1218
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: and solve a point for where everyone still believes in

1219
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: upward mobility, and specifically for these older people, if you

1220
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: have no faith that your children will have a better

1221
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: life than you, which, by the way, you know in

1222
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: that article that's what it's all about. You shouldn't have

1223
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: any faith that they're gonna have a better life than you.

1224
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: And I do feel for a lot of them because

1225
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: there's a term called henry where it's like high income

1226
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: not rich yet, which is basically what a lot of

1227
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: these people are.

1228
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: They did everything the right way. You know, they have.

1229
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: A good job or whatever. They know, they have a house,

1230
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 3: et cetera. And their belief was that their children will

1231
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: do better. So they don't have enough money to like

1232
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: bail their kids out entirely. Right, they can help they

1233
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: can help them, but you know, there's a big difference

1234
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 3: being able to buy your kid a house and then

1235
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: let's say like put your kid through college. Right, that's

1236
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: like literally a multimillion dollar difference in assets. So the

1237
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: point is that they don't have enough money to do

1238
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: too much about it, but they have just enough to

1239
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: float them for a couple of years. That level of

1240
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: precarity is also going to lead you down a very radical,

1241
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: radical path. So, yes, all of the ingredients are here.

1242
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,479
Speaker 1: If we want them.

1243
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: And I mean, look, I always say I think something's

1244
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: going to break. But at the same time, I just.

1245
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, the S and P five

1246
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: hundreds is of all the time today, So what do

1247
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: I know?

1248
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I don't even think people are looking

1249
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: for their kids to do better than them at this point.

1250
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: It's just like, can they achieve.

1251
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: Like the same level of just basics to build, get

1252
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: a house, raise a family, have health insurance, and that's

1253
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: increasingly what is feeling impossible. And you know those numbers

1254
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: of how young people feel about their own academic situation,

1255
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: that's you, I.

1256
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: Think, can you really tell them they're wrong? No, obvious

1257
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: course not.

1258
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: They're absolutely, of course not.

1259
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean the competition, you know, just to get into college,

1260
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: and then you come out of college and AI's taken

1261
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: all the jobs. And I think you already even before

1262
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: AI had this issue and declining material circumstances and parents

1263
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: feeling like their kids aren't going to be able to

1264
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: achieve what they are in.

1265
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: All this stress.

1266
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what leads to like the varsity blues

1267
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: situation where people are so desp Oh my god, I've

1268
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: got to do whatever I can make sure my kid gets.

1269
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 4: Some sort of an elite slot.

1270
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: And you know, so you already had that, and now

1271
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: you have AI coming in and decimating the type of

1272
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: jobs that typically would go to new college grads or

1273
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: new law school grods even and yeah, it's a big problem.

1274
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Last thing.

1275
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: You know, everyone says, oh, well, it's better because it

1276
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: was inefficient. There's a lot of social benefits. When I

1277
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: was a very very young journalist, was I truly adding

1278
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 3: so much to the conversation.

1279
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: No, even though I definitely thought that I was.

1280
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: But what was I learning? I was learning the craft.

1281
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: I was around other people who taught me the basic

1282
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: building blocks that allow you to progress into a career.

1283
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: So let me defend gruntwork somebody. First of all, grunt

1284
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: work is good for you because it teaches you discipline,

1285
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: attention to detail, and gives you the basics so that

1286
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: you can accomplish your task and sit around and kind

1287
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: of absorb information and institutional knowledge from other people around

1288
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: you to build a network which will allows you to

1289
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: rise up either through the company or through your industry,

1290
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: or figure out that that's not what you want to

1291
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: do so you can go and do something else. If

1292
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: you don't even get that opportunity, then you get nothing.

1293
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: And that's what's so deeply frustrating. I think for a

1294
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: lot of people. I really if you're twenty two years

1295
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: old or you're just graduating from college, I truly truly

1296
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: feel for you, because you.

1297
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Know, you were just old.

1298
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: You're just old enough where the old system existed so

1299
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: you were able to take out the debt. You probably

1300
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: still believed in the dream at that time, and now

1301
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 3: you're just smashing into reality and you know it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a tough climb out