1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It is another almost famous podcast. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: We're here to break down this week's episode, bring on 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: some guests that were on the episode, but also we're 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: here to hear from the wonderful Ashley Kennettie so sweet 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: of you have been so sweet. How's your week been? 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: Your book launch week? Are you so tired? Are you 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: feeling proud? I would love to say I'm feeling proud. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: I am proud of the book. Um, there's a really 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: weird emotion that I did not imagine. I was talking 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: to one of our producers right before this that's happening. So, like, 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: this book is very personal me. I'm very proud of 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: this book. I believe in this book. It took a 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: lot of time to write, but a lot of the 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: stuff in the book is meant for those out there 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: who feel disconnected, isolated alone. So I was pulling stories 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: of others and pulling stories of myself. These are some 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: things that I've never really shared before with anybody until 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I wrote the book. Well now I talk about it 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: all day every day, and you almost have like anotional 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: hangover because these are things that like, you know, after 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: you talk about it eight times in a day, it's 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: hard to like still pull out the emotion and passion 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: of it. And so I'm tired, but I'm excited. Um, 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: but I'll leave this thought here. It's really weird actually, 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people out here, I think, 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: can really you have these like high moments in life, right, 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Give it a vacation, give it like a family gathering, 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: a holiday, maybe it's a promotion at work, whatever, and 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: you're like you have such big expectation for how it's 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna feel, and you're so excited for it, and then 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: once it happens, it like in a sense lets you down. 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: And that's how the books felt, because like I've been 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: so excited for it for years, it launches, but then 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: like I don't, like there's like it's just it's just 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: out there, like I don't have I don't know what 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: to do with it anymore. Um, I just talk about 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: it a lot, but like you don't know the sales 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: and like not even that this book for me will 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: be judged based on sales. I mean, I think it well, 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: I'll take a personal hit like with my ego if 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't sell well. But it's like no now which 43 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: is gone, Like this thing that I held on to 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: for two years is now no longer in my hands, 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and so it like it just feels it feels less 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: of a high then I thought it would. I understand. 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: I understand completely. We'll talk about it more on Thursday night, 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: because you are going to talk about the book more. 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: At least this time it'll be with friends, because we're 50 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: doing a virtual event. Tell people how they can join it. 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: This is a super big deal. So um, obviously, the 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: almost Famous family and I Heart Radio have just been 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: incredible to Ashley and I over the years. And um, 54 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: we months ago planned this because we wanted to celebrate 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the launch of this book and the launch of this podcast. Um, 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: not the launch, I mean, I guess the sustainability this podcast, 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: and share some stuff that I haven't been able to 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: talk about with the people that listen to this podcast. 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna have a live event. We released 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: a limited number of tickets to our live show that 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: include a signed copy of my book. To buy, go 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: to events dot looped live, dot com, slash almost you miss. 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: Those will be in the show notes, so just look 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: it up and you'll see that if you if you 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: didn't get it, A portion of the proceeds from this 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: live event we'll go to Save our Stages, which is 67 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: through federal aid, is on the way until it comes. 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: Many neighborhood independent venues are still at risk of closing. 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: That's just gonna happen. It will close forever. So you 70 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: can find info on how to help your local music 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: scene at save our Stages dot com or just get 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: a ticket to this event that's helping out a lot. 73 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the book. We're gonna have some 74 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: great guests on. We're gonna dive into some questions that 75 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I think all of us could probably relate with right now, 76 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: like how are you feeling? Where are you at? Who 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: are you in the midst of this last year, in 78 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the midst of the chaos that it's kind of came 79 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: around us to confusion. Um, I'm really pumped for it, 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: so please join us. It's gonna be um intimate, vulnerable, raw, 81 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: but also a lot of fun. We have something else 82 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: very exciting. On Thursday, I was asked on questions on 83 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Instagram this week, what who's a guest that came on 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: our show that I never thought would agree to? It? 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: And it is this person, Wan Pablo. Wan Pablo did 86 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: an in depth with us we recorded last week. It 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: is chock full of well blunt wand pabloisms. Um, he 88 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: was as honest as he says that he was on 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: the show. You guys are really good. It's it's gonna 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: be a really good listen. You're gonna have a lot 91 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: of opinions, I'm sure, but it will be dropping this Thursday, 92 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: so make sure to look out for that. All right, Well, 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: let's get to this week six of the Bachelor recap 94 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: right after this break. All Right, we're back, Ashley. We 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: gotta break it down this week. It's gonna be crazy. Um, 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: there's so much going on in Bachelor Nation right now, 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: so many headlines, so many stories. As you know, as 98 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: you just mentioned before the break, Wan Paul is going 99 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: to be on our podcast, and uh, that's something we 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: never thought would happen. Um. And then we get to 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: this week's episode, and again, I want to preface it 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: was saying this last week, I was really happy with 103 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 1: the episode. I think Matt James is just a good dude. 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Like I just like him, I like watching him. I 105 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: think I'm rooting for him, like I'm on his team. Um, 106 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just getting like to be critical as I 107 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: get farther and farther, like out of the show, I 108 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: feel like these episodes are falling short, Like I feel 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: like they're falling short. Well, let's dive into it, because 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna pull out some of the things that like 111 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: and some of the reasons why we believe they're falling short. 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: Right now. Well, the episode starts with the cliffhanger. Jin 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: and m J are together meeting, talking, arguing. We get 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: more arguments during the season than any other season I 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: can remember. It. It's uh, it's just not enjoyable, I 116 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: guess for me to watch because I don't know exactly 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. And also when Matt sits down and 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I'll pass to you here in just a second, but 119 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: when Matt sits down in the room with these two girls, 120 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: there's just this look of exhaustion on his face, Like 121 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: I just felt like he was sitting in a room 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: being like this isn't at all what I want to 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: spend my evening doing. Nor do I understand what's going 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: on here, but I just want this stuff to be 125 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: done so that we can move on into like something 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: healthy and like good for this season. Yeah. I was thinking, 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: like something that I've thought many times throughout this season, 128 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: kind of like, what's this fight actually over? Yes? Is 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: it the fact that you guys don't jive? Is it 130 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: the fact that m J said, oh I don't feel 131 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: any tangient or drama in the house to Matt? Um? Yeah? 132 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: Is it over just something so? Or is it over 133 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: MJ being a bully? Um? Is it a come a 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: nation of all of this? Probably, But it's just like 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: one of those confrontations that I just feel like the 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: purpose of it, or like the root of it is 137 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: really vague, which makes me less interesting in the argument. Yea, yes, okay, 138 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. It's just vague. And I mean 139 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: that's and and then I mean, okay, so we could 140 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: go through like the bickering. It's I don't think it's 141 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: helpful for the podcast. I don't think it's helpful for 142 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: the show. They went back and forth for matt sits 143 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: down with each of them. Uh, m J explains how 144 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: she has a big heart and she's trying to show 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: it to him. Uh, She's saying that she hasn't at all. 146 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: She's trying to bring harmony to the house, so she's 147 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: trying to do the exact opposite of what she's getting 148 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: blamed for. Uh, just Sinya saying no, you've been a 149 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: part of the problem. And then it pretty much, I 150 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: mean ends there. And this is the part that's even 151 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: more confusing, Like MJ gets sent home and then just 152 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Sena walks back with a rose, but we don't really 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: know why she got her. I thought they were both 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: going home, quite honestly, I don't I thought they were 155 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: both going home too. I thought was gonna be like 156 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Titia's season where she was, where he was gonna be 157 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: like Jennia, I'm not really one sure about you yet, 158 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: please go join the other girls, and like, I'll make 159 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: up my decision later. I guess in fact, he didn't. 160 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: He didn't do that, because he just decided to cancel 161 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: the cocktail party altogether, which is probably out of exhaustion 162 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: and just being like I know what I'm doing. I 163 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: don't really feel a connection between him, him and Justenia, 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: which is why I was surprised that she got through 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: so easily with that rose. But also because um, we've 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: seen the scene to the next episode that she's around 167 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: and looks like going on a one on one next week. 168 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: So not only did she get through that rose cere money, 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: but she gets through the rose ceremony that we have 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: a teaser, you know that we left on a cliff note, 171 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: clifhanger on, and then she gets a one on one. 172 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I like, I'm obviously like team 173 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: just Sena in this argument between her and m J. 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: M J just seems like really rough around the edges, 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know if I can really trust her. 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: But I also feel like just sending in a way 177 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: was being like a little bit over dramatic about it. 178 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: Well right, and yeah, I think you're right. I also 179 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: it goes back to the just the thing that we've 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: seen for re season here though, like do you think 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: and you can answer me this maybe when the girls 182 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: are bringing up this kind of stuff and they're arguing, okay, 183 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: when Justina is sitting in this room with him J going, 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: m J, I think you've been a bully, and Justina 185 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: is sitting there in that room at that point, does 186 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: she think that is helpful for her relationship with Matt? 187 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Like in her head, is she believing that by pursuing 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: this it is helping her relationship with Matt or is 189 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: that is that an afterthought because in my opinion, from 190 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: my experience in the show, it would just hurt my 191 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: relationships if if it was down to like in a sense, 192 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: like bickering back and forth on I just don't like 193 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: you or I don't like it doesn't seem to be 194 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: helpful for any love story to be formed. I think 195 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: it's an afterthought because I think that I'm just using 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: my experience during The Bachelor with Kelsey being our villain. 197 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: It was just like this, I just can't stand this 198 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: person so much that like it's very important for me 199 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: for them to be exposed. But okay, but in in 200 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: a moment of honesty, for you, like the number one 201 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: reason you're there, let's say, okay, let's assume the number 202 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: one reason you're there is to have a good experience, 203 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: to have fun, to try something new. The second one 204 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: is could I possibly fall in love? Could I possibly 205 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: make this workout? Like is this something that could be 206 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: my love story in life? And we'll assume those are 207 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: two reasons. Does any if those are your two reasons? 208 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Does having this kind of fight and actually you've been 209 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: in this was it helpful for either of those. No, 210 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: it's never gonna be helpful. But that doesn't mean that 211 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: like there's something in your soul that like must do it. 212 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: I know that's not like the right answer, but it's 213 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: the right answer. It's the honest answer. I mean, Okay, 214 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: do you regret doing Okay, if you're in the same position, 215 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: do you regret would you do it over the same 216 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: way you did it? Yes? And I would. Yeah, I 217 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: just would like articulate myself and not drink a whole 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: bottle of champagne before. Okay, Well that's all. But you 219 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: know that's because like I wasn't meant to be with Christ, 220 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: and I feel like if it may have been different, 221 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: if it was somebody that I know that like I 222 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: really thought like this made sense, like there was something 223 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: that must have been there. Um, I don't know, I understand. 224 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I just understand where like that need to kind of 225 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to say fight, but to argue is 226 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: to bring it out, to bring it to the service. 227 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Well again, just Sina stays, MJ goes home and I think, uh, 228 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be talked I think MJ 229 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: is gonna get talked about a lot this week. Um, 230 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: I think it was a really big exit for Matt. 231 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: I think he was really into into m J. I 232 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: think he still was, and I think he saw there 233 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: must have been more to the story, Like I think 234 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: he was seeing the thread of kind of what just 235 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Sina was saying coming through. I think it hurt him 236 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: quite a bit to send him Jay home. I agree, 237 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: but we didn't get to see that, which was unfortunate. 238 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: But I felt like going into that day or whatever 239 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: you want to call it, he he had more of 240 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: a connection with that Jay. I'll give you a little 241 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. When I was there on set, Uh, 242 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: some of the people were like they thought MJ was 243 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: a front runner, Like they told me, like this girl, yeah, 244 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: this like MJ has like Matt. Matt likes her. So 245 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: I was shocked to see her going home. I don't 246 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: know how this season plays out, and I don't know 247 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: how each episode plays out, So I was watching it like, 248 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: there's no way she goes home here because I knew. 249 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean what, I was there two weeks before this. 250 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: I was like, two weeks before this, he was head 251 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: over heels for this girl, like he liked her a 252 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: ton um So it makes sense on why then he 253 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: cancels the cocktail party. He's tired, he's exhausted, he's over it. 254 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean now at this point in time, we watch 255 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: it like weeks, you know, once a week. This has 256 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: been his life in argument, dealing with arguments in confrontation. 257 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Now for two weeks. He's exhausted, he's tired, he's really 258 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: over it. Um, So he cancels the cocktail party, and 259 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: people are really upset. People are like in tears upset. Yeah, Ryan, 260 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Ryan was a latecomer and she was so upset. We 261 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: see her not get a rose. She obviously was sensing 262 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: that she needed that time to prove a connection. Um, 263 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: we see Serena get up in Katie's not really get 264 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: up in cases. But you know, start something with Katie 265 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: saying that, you know, if she stopped bringing up all 266 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: the toxicity in the house, then like all these time 267 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: warpoles um of drama, times sucking time sucking warpoles of 268 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: drama like the one between Jasena and MJ would have 269 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: been eliminated, and then therefore cocktail parties wouldn't get canceled 270 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: and all that. But I don't know, I don't really 271 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: agree with Serena there. I mean, I think Katie, she 272 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, we think that Katie is a good one, 273 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, have bringing it up. Well, it's not bringing 274 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: it up for the for like her own sake. No, 275 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. The confrontation with Katie and 276 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: her bring it up was back, you know, when she 277 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of brought up Victoria. The house was toxic, there's 278 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: bullying going on, and Katie was like, Matt, like this 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: isn't healthy anymore, Like I just want you to know 280 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: that this in the house like needs to change and 281 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: you need to know about it. I didn't have the 282 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: like stomach churning reaction to when Katie brought it up 283 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: as when like other people have brought up confrontation. Now 284 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: I did have it though, when Serena brought up to Katie, 285 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: I was like, don't do this again. We I literally 286 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: thought last week we were done with a drama. Then 287 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: this happens this week right off the bat with the episode, 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Matt's already tired. And then as soon 289 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: as Harrison walks out of the room, here we are 290 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: back into another confrontation. And it was just like, don't start. 291 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be another storyline. I was 292 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: checking I was getting so checked out. Was just one 293 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: of those episodes where I found myself like pressing pause 294 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the ton looking at my phone, just wasn't fully invested 295 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: because it's just like, ah again, are you kidding me? Now? 296 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: I would say I think I mentioned last week that 297 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: I would think that maybe Serena had a point if 298 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Katie did like a little title tale situation again. But 299 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: she didn't. She was pulling up like a past tattle. 300 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't like it calling it a title I don't 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: think she was a title tale, but like her sake 302 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: of simplicity. The last time Katie brought that up was 303 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: a while back. So now Serena's just drudging up something again, 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: and and you have the awkward moment where uh, then, 305 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: well it happens a little bitter what we're talking about 306 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: it saying. But I do have to mention this, um 307 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: this episode really fired me up. And you'll know why 308 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: for one reason, not only the confrontation. Not only do 309 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: I not get to see Matt shine, which I know 310 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: he will and still can and he's great, but my 311 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: favorite went home, Maggie went home. We never got to 312 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: see Maggie. We never got to see Maggie. She was like, 313 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: I promise you, she has so much to offer. She 314 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: was in that pumpkin when I was there, spin around circles, 315 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: laughing for an hour. I think she's the best. We 316 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: never got to know her, and it's so I really 317 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: was excited to get to know her. It was really sad. 318 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: But she went home as well as Uh as Ryan 319 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: uh went home as well, and Brittany went home. Can 320 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: we talk about how weird it is that Britney went home? 321 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: This is like the third week in a row that 322 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: we have somebody who we've who's had a lot of airtime, 323 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: who seemingly had a connection with with Matt, and we 324 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: see them go home without any further explanation. Matt doesn't 325 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: pull him aside. First there was Kayla, then there was Lauren, 326 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and now there was Brittany. Bertney had a huge storyline 327 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: over the past two weeks, and all of a sudden, 328 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: she's gone, Yeah, there's still girls there that we know 329 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: nothing about. But yet the girls that we've actually start 330 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: to like invest into and that I can actually say 331 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: their names are going home. Like this is making it 332 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: really hard on me, Like, who's next? Chelsea, Like, are 333 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: we gonna send Chelsea home next week? And I'll be like, 334 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: this is I don't get anymore, Like I'm invested in 335 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: Chelsea story I like Chelsea, She's a sweetheart. But it 336 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: feels like now Chelsea story line is going to be 337 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: the one now that goes home next week. I don't know. 338 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: But who I really feel like you might go home 339 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: next week is is Abigail? Because I'm looking at process 340 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: of elimination here and the fact that Abigail is going 341 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: to go home after getting the first impression rows and 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: never having a one on one and never really developing 343 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: a storyline is super super sad. Let's talk about that 344 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the episode when we get 345 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: closer to that Rose ceremony. Let's jump into the first 346 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: one on one with Piper. Cute dates. Uh, they have 347 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: they go to care, they go to a fair. That's 348 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: always fun. I always find like the fair day is 349 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a nice little ice bregger. You can't like be awkward 350 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: with each other. I had we did want to worse. 351 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: Sunday it was incredible. It was like so much yeah 352 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: with Amanda, the whole town came out. I mean it 353 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: was packed. It was it was fun, but this was 354 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: super special because you know, we've seen fireworks in the 355 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: show and all that stuff, but like the fact that 356 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden she walks into like a dark 357 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: where like it was a forest or something, and he 358 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: turns on the lights and it lights up was so cool. Yeah, 359 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: it was beautiful. Um. And then there's nothing really like 360 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: monumental that happens there. But she does talk over dinner 361 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: something so so sad. She says it like she has 362 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: a really hard time being emotional and vulnerable, and that's 363 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: because in her house it's not really condoned to be emotional, 364 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: and that her mom isn't the kind of mom who 365 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: will like call and say like, hey, I'm proud of you. 366 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: And that just made me so sad for her. And 367 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: she was talking about how of course she doesn't want 368 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: she wants to be in a relationship where she can 369 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: feel comfortable finally expressing her emotions and like raising a 370 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: family that does the same. It was said, I think 371 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: it was relatable um to a lot of people. Uh. 372 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I think I found out over the last two years 373 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: just how many people have either gotten too much reassurance 374 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: from people like you know or not at all and 375 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: it's sad because it does it. There's a disconnect there, 376 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: I think though. And I hope that after Piper brings 377 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: this up on national television, like that conversation can happen 378 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: at home where she's like, I want you to tell 379 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: me you're proud of me, like I have. I have 380 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: people in my life that I know who have never 381 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: been told, um, by their father or mother that they 382 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: love them, like they just don't do in their household, 383 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, and like that was my well, my mom 384 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: grew up in. Yeah, it's like mind boggling to me 385 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: because she did the exact opposite. It's weird, um, but 386 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: so it's relatable. I think it was a really great conversation. 387 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: It was really special. But once again, as this beautiful 388 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: date is happening, as we're relating and investing into this relationship, 389 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: at break off points, Serena and Katie are back home 390 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: fighting it out, yelling at each other in like a 391 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: very aggressive way. Uh, the other girls are listening. Serena 392 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: comes in with like this kind of confiding in these friends, 393 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: sits down and she starts talking about her Katie walks 394 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: in on it, which is always one of the most 395 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: awkward moments on the show. It happens often. It's one 396 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: of the most awkward moments in life, right, like we've 397 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: probably done in middle school, or like you know, you're 398 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: talking about one of your friends and then they walk in, 399 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: things get weird. But this is again Ashley, and I'm 400 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: gonna keep harping on it until it stops. I guess, 401 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. People probably sick of hearing it. But 402 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: it's like, once again, these are adults acting like children. 403 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: And there here's my take on it. Serena is just 404 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: starting another fire, like she's mad at Katie for the 405 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: toxicity in the house. Yeah, Serena walks in to add 406 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: more toxicity situation by starting is fire amongst the girls. 407 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm sure Katie like has but like all we've 408 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: seen is now Serena sitting down and starting the bad 409 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: mouth this situation. And it's luckily the girls though, stand 410 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: up and say like, I don't see it this way, yeah, 411 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: and can I just say that there's like no again, 412 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: no point to this because we see it at the 413 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: Rose ceremony and then we see it again here. But 414 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: then before we note that Katie's eliminated and this conflict 415 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: is gone, and it's just like, okay, it's been existed, 416 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: then fine. But I don't think it needed to be 417 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: part of the show because it has no consequence and 418 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: it just it wasn't. It was to me just a 419 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: non interesting watch where I wish that those ten minutes 420 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: that it occupied was used to see the one on 421 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: one time that Abigail and Matt or so and so 422 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: and Matt would have had on this group date, which 423 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about in a second. Um. Because 424 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: the group date was okay, let's get into it now. 425 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: The group date was bowling. It was one of those 426 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: things where it's like whatever team wins is going to 427 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: go have extra time with Matt tonight. And it was 428 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: actually two small groups, so they were gonna get like 429 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: some good quality time. The group of four girls, the 430 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: Pink Team one which sent the Blue Girls home. Then 431 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: Harrison comes in and says, you know, Matt actually wants 432 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: to invite you Blue girls to the date, right, And 433 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: then he said, hey, girls, sorry, I had to invite 434 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: the Blue team because like, I just felt like we 435 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: all deserved, like I want time with all of you, 436 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: which I loved. But it was so weird is that 437 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: in the episode. We don't get him. We don't see 438 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: any one on one time with any of the Blue 439 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: team that I rewounded. I rewounded to make sure that 440 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: I was right about this, and he he invited them, 441 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: but nothing we know, like you and I know that 442 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: those girls probably most likely had time with him, But 443 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they choose to air that time? Because it's 444 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: just odd? It is. Well, okay, so right now we 445 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: are harping on this episode. I get that, But here's 446 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: the point. No, no, but here, here's the point to 447 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: this whole thing. I think here's where the frustration, um 448 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: lies is. We just don't know these women well enough yet. 449 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 1: It's frustrating because we're two weeks away now after this 450 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: week from Hometowns. The there's been a lot of arguments, 451 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: very little like in depth stories, being like kind of 452 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: pushed to where we understand where their relationship lies. Um, 453 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't know at this point other than maybe two 454 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: or three, that I have any connection as a viewer 455 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: with any of them, Like if like there's some seasons 456 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: where somebody goes home and I'm like a little torn 457 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: up about it this season, if any of them went home, 458 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe other than Abigail, Rachel of Britt like I would 459 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: be or Bree, I would be like pretty distant from it. 460 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's fair. But once, okay, so 461 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: here's here's the point in the show. So we'll pause 462 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: it here and we'll talk about this through all this. 463 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: There's a storyline going on. We're gonna add one more 464 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: person to the season. Heather Martin shows up, uh to 465 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: Nim mccollan, asking to be on the season to give 466 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: it a shot. I'm a big Heather Martin fan. She's 467 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: been on the podcast many times. Uh, but nothing in's Heather. 468 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: But it's like one more person now to come into 469 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: this we already have added. We had a huge group 470 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: at the beginning, We've added more women back then We're 471 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna add one more here, Like how we ever gonna 472 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: keep these relationships moving forward when we always are taking 473 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: a step back And it's it's just it's just odds, 474 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: Like it's weird to me that we continue to add 475 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: people to this season when like the whole problem I 476 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: guess with this season is not Matt James is not 477 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: really the contestants. Other than the bullying, the toxicity, I 478 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: think we've now eliminated it's the fact that there's just 479 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: so many freaking people in and out of this house. 480 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: This was so silly in one of those rare moments, 481 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: but it felt staged to me. Um when she pulls 482 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: up in the white van, like the white and Vinnie 483 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Matt the minivan, and then Harrison's like, go back to 484 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: your hotel and we'll think about it. When like, you 485 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: know she's staying there on campus. You know that she 486 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: was quarantining before that minivan scene. And then she's like 487 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: doing all these corny videos in her room and you're 488 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: and she even admits she's like, girl, She's like, I 489 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: know I'm late, but like I still must meet Matt. 490 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, you are so late that you are 491 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: entering the week that I exited Crystals this season. Like 492 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: you if if the producers told me, yeah, you can 493 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: come and join, but you have to join in week six, 494 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, okay, never mind that all embarrass myself. 495 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Yeah you're not, that's 496 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: wild to think about. It's true, all right, Actually, let's 497 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: take a break and we come back when a breakdown. 498 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron's cameo on the episode as well, as Katie's 499 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: date and then exit from the show, leading into then 500 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: the bloopers for next week. Ashley fans have been waiting 501 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: to find out when, uh, Matt James gonna have Tyler 502 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: Cameron on. Obviously they're friends and that's kind of how 503 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Matt got on the show was because of Tyler's mom. 504 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: So Tyler shows up this week, uh for little man chat. 505 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: But then it's also a part of Katie's one on 506 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: one date. And this did not disappoint. This was the 507 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: part that had me laughing, that had me totally glued 508 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: to the screen. Katie is going to go behind the scenes, right, 509 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: have a mike to an earpiece for a masseuse that 510 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: is massaging Tyler Unknowingly, Katie and and Matt are watching 511 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: Tyler get a massa and they're leading the massuits in 512 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: this awful massage. And this is hilarious. And this is 513 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: the kind of date that was is one creative and 514 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: I love that we haven't seen something like this before 515 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: and to actually kind of gets you to bond like 516 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: it really gets you to bond um. And then just 517 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: the fact that, um, you know, it's with a friend 518 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: that's fun. You have a little bit more like you 519 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: feel more free and doing embarrassing things. I really love 520 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: this date. And uh yeah, Tyler was a good sport 521 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, it was it is I always I 522 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: like these. That was the date was right good, you're right. 523 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: It bonded Katie and Matt allowed us in the room 524 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: and kind of laugh and joke and pick on a 525 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: friend and play a joke on him. I really loved, 526 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: like I can't. I love massages. It's my favorite thing. 527 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I can't imagine having somebody like a massus in this 528 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: like really nice spot all of a sudden take like 529 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: like one of those like roll roll out things and 530 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: like go against the back of my head, Like that hurts, 531 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: Like that's not fun. I can't imagine what was going 532 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: through Tyler's head. I wish there was a follow up 533 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: interview to that be like what were you thinking when 534 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: she was like one like playing with her nipples, which 535 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: is a little weird. I don't know how like it's 536 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: like that was fine. I would feel pretty uncomfortable, Like 537 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: I would have I would have gone further than that. 538 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: I would have been like go really low on his pelvis, 539 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: go really low, go really high on his thigh. Yeah, 540 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: I know they're keeping a PG, but like then the 541 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: rolling board in the back of the head, I think 542 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: that's when I've been like laying there been like this 543 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: is the worst thing I've ever had experienced me and 544 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: the fact that she was talking to him the whole time. 545 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: That's my number one pet peeve with the massage. Anyways, Okay, 546 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: so Katie and Matt have a great one on one day. 547 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, this thing is working, this is a good deal. 548 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: But then they feel that I did. I felt. I 549 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like, this would have been 550 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: a perfect date for somebody had more chemistry with less 551 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: of a friend zone. Fail. Well, but we kind of 552 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: find that out as the date continues. Uh, it's definitely 553 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: more of a friend zone. Matt a lot of great 554 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: things to say about Katie, but she is sent home 555 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: from the one on one. It's our first one on 556 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: one exit, if I know, is it our first this season? Yes, 557 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: it's our first one on one exit this season? Um, 558 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: you know not. My opinion is not shocking because I 559 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: I do think like it wasn't like this was a 560 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: love story that we're like, yeah, they're gonna be together forever, 561 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: but um, anytime somebody goes home from a one on one. 562 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: It's um, it's a little bit of a of a storyline, 563 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: and Katie is sent home. Okay, So the end of 564 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the episode goes like this. Heather Martin does show up 565 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: to the cocktail party, the girls all of a sudden 566 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: are fired up, and it really just starts to be 567 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: highlighted in the previews, and the previews are the previews. 568 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: We never know what those are referring to. But it 569 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: doesn't look like this goes well for Heather. No, so 570 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Heather does interrupt Pipers one on one time, which of 571 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: course isn't gonna go well. But what else is she 572 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna do? Right? And you can tell that Matt knew 573 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: how the right off the bat because he starts laughing. 574 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: And to be honest, like at this point, it really 575 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: is like a hilarious joke that somebody else is entering 576 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: this late in the game, and that it's somebody that 577 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: he knows, and he's he's dealing with it with the 578 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: sense of humor, but like, you know, he's not gonna 579 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: he's not gonna keep I well, I feel like he's 580 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: not gonna keep it around, That's what I say. No, 581 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: But like I don't actually know. UM. And then Heather, 582 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: we we got word. It's in our hot topics this week, 583 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it right now. Is that Matt 584 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: did meet Head there prior to the season, UM, but 585 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: he had no relationship with her, so he knew her 586 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: through Hannah. And you know, as as Heather says, she 587 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: was really strongly recommended to go on the show because 588 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: of Hannah. The I encourage everybody, UM to go back 589 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: watch UM. When Heather walks into the room to interrupt 590 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: Matt and Matt looks up, that's gonna be a meme forever. 591 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: His eyes are wide, his face is shocked, and he's 592 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: like son of a gun. Well, hey, Ashley, let's take 593 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: a break here. That's been this week's episode. Uh. Let's 594 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: rate it UM A to F rating for this episode, 595 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: it's a say I'm gonna see minus. After last week's episode, 596 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I had big expectations for this week. I thought we 597 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: were really going to see some stories start to build. 598 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: We didn't, uh, And as a result, it pretty disappointed me, 599 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: and I think it might for a lot of Bachelor Nation. 600 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: Matt James, once again, UH, just continues to be consistent. Great, 601 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: He's he's good at this, but I'm not I like 602 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: him as a human and I think we could be friends. 603 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly invested into his love story right now, 604 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be. Uh. And I think a 605 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with just how the 606 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: controversies and the and the bullying and the like, just 607 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: arguing the seasons existed so far. Hey, uh, we'll take 608 00:31:51,560 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: a break, we come back. We have Bachelor headline. Actually 609 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: just mentioned this first headline and so we're gonna kind 610 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: of skip over it. But Matt James did confirm that 611 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: there was no relationship with Heather Martin before she crashed 612 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: the Crash the Bachelor. I know a lot of people 613 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: are gonna be speculating that this week. But the next 614 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: headline is referencing Matt James as well. His season is 615 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: getting talked about, uh and a lot of press. Uh. 616 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: The headline reads this Bachelor Matt James talks Rachel controversy. 617 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: Uh and that Spotify like did he spoil his season? 618 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: This according to entertainment? Okay, well, first off, we'll address 619 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: the Spotify like. So apparently he um liked one of 620 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Rachel's playlists on Spotify, which makes people feel like perhaps 621 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: he chooses her. UM, but he said he said in 622 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: this interview that I listened to that he apparently did 623 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: some research on a lot of the girls Spotify lists 624 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: and liked and listened to multiple ones. UM. And then 625 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: as far as the controversy, Rachel we know has been 626 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: an early front runner in an early favorite. UM. But but 627 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: but there are some there are some allegations of her 628 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: on social media for bullying in the past, about dating 629 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: black men, and for liking some photos that don't look 630 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: so good on social media. And I just want to 631 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: read to you what Matt has said about one question 632 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: about all this. He said, I have not really spoke 633 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: to anybody since the show ended, but I would like 634 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: to say that you have to be really careful about 635 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: what you're doing on social media. He says. Rumors are 636 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: dark and nasty and they can rumor people's lives. So UM, 637 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: I would give people the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully 638 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: she will have some time to speak on that. There's 639 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going around about the women who 640 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: are involved in the show, and I would just give 641 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: them a chance to kind of have their peace, whether 642 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: that is someone who was gone night one or someone 643 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: who went home this week. Everyone has a story and 644 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: I would just be receptive to that. So I think 645 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: he just wants um Rachel to address this on her 646 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: own whenever she sees fit. Well, we uh we will 647 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: follow that and when she does address it, we'll be 648 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: talking about it right here on Bachelor headlines. Uh. Now, 649 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay, who has been outspoken uh about a lot 650 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: of things. She hosts a show and so she talks 651 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: about stuff kind of quite often, reacts to Dylan Barber 652 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: Jed Wyatt's Bachelor producers accusations. That's on you, she says, 653 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: if you felt manipulated, this goes into our next headline, 654 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: because we'll compare the two here. Our next headline comes 655 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: from Tasha Adams, who came out and said that she 656 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: felt very unedited on her season and it's very proud 657 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: of who she was. So Ashley, taking both these headlines 658 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: into consideration, how do we go through this? Okay? Well, 659 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: first off, you guys may remember that last week Dylan 660 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: was talking about some like really cryptic thing ings. You know, 661 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: he was tweeting saying that like they don't that the 662 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: producers don't care about people's mental health, um, that they're 663 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: not looking out for the contestants. Then Jed, which is 664 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: a close friend with him, said that he was going 665 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: to drop a podcast talking about all the things that 666 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: went down during his season that he felt manipulated by. Well, 667 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: that never came out, and Dylan backtracked a little bit, 668 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: thanking the franchise for the platform it's given him. And 669 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: I feel like there must have been some intervening in there. Um. Then, 670 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: So basically Rachel said, that's on you if you felt 671 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: like you fell for that type of scenario. I don't 672 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: know if you're trying to get attention. I'm not sure 673 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: if you're trying to make trying to excuse some of 674 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: the decisions that you make. But we're all grown people. 675 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: You made those decisions for whatever reason it is. Now, 676 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: don't go try and blame somebody else. And Tasia like 677 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: in an indirect way, kind of backs up what Rachel 678 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: sang by saying that she was really proud of what 679 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: she saw of herself. And UM, I can say with 680 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: one I do not feel edited like everyone says. I 681 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: do not feel edited, or I feel I didn't feel 682 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: like they didn't show me. Um. I definitely feel like 683 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: that was me. Um. She said when I got upset. 684 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: I got upset. I was having as much fun as 685 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: it looked. She says that she's watching back some of 686 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: the episodes with a full on smile because it represented 687 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: her so well and she was so proud of herself. 688 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: So a bunch of different opinions here. I do think 689 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: everybody's experience on the show is different. I do think though, 690 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: in every situation life, you have to take some ownership 691 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: uh for the outcomes of things. So a lot of 692 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: opinion has been a thrown around. It's kind of It's 693 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: interesting now for two weeks we've been talking about, um, 694 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, the editing in the producing of the show. 695 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: It's always a topic we talked about, but right now 696 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: it feels like it is in the headlines more than ever. Well, 697 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: the final UH line from this week is one that 698 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: does come again from Rachel Lindsay. Rachel Lindsay is very 699 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: upset with Dale Moss uh and her quote is Dale 700 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: is making this about him, Um, he wants to be 701 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: in the spotlight, Rachel says. She says, I'm so disappointed 702 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: by this breakup because I was down for Claire and Dale. 703 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm close with Claire, I love Claire and I was 704 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: so happy with Dale, she goes, and even when my 705 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: husband Brian and I were with them, it seems like 706 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: they were very happy with one another. And I know 707 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: that there were all these rumors about Dale, and I 708 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: think what's so disappointing is that meeting them, I wouldn't 709 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: have assumed that those rumors could possibly be true. And 710 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: the more that time goes by since the breakup, it 711 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: seems like those rumors were true. She says. It seems 712 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: like Dale is all about himself. It seems like he 713 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: wants to be in the spotlights. I find it a 714 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: big coincidence maybe not so much of a coincidence that 715 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: Um or maybe I find it to be a big 716 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: coincidence or maybe not so much of a coincidence that 717 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: he keeps finding a way to a camera or to 718 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: his Instagram lives. Here's the thing, Rachel's friends with Claire 719 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: Uh strong statements out of Rachel. Uh. You know, I 720 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: think here, over time this will fade off. But obviously, 721 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, we saw this week, um that Claire dieder 722 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: hair pink. Uh. We do see to Dale. You know 723 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: on camera a lot people are coming out in support 724 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: and speaking out UM upon this thing. So hey, uh, 725 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: I guess good for Rachel for sticking up for a friend. Um, 726 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: that's important, especially right now. All right, Ashley, let's take 727 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we're not some exciting 728 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: new guests on Almost Faus podcast. All right, you guys, 729 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: you saw them last night during Hyper's date. They've been 730 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: called by Huffington's Post CMT sounds like Nashville in the 731 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: Taste of Country as one of the new top country artists, 732 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: and they've earned praise from Carrie Underwood, Dan and Shay 733 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: and Brett Eldridge. That's a pretty big deal. Please welcome 734 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: to the podcast. To Michuela Road. Hey guys, Hello, I'm good. 735 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: How are you guys? You're fantastic, been really really good. Awesome. 736 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: So you sang your song everything I Love during Piper's 737 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: one on one. I couldn't have drawn of a better 738 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: ending to ae night. We have a private performance by 739 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: to Macular Roads. Have Piper in my arms. I'm just 740 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: looking at Piper, Piper is looking at me. Everything just 741 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: feels right, everything everything. Why did you choose that song? 742 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: I think it just was the perfect fit. I mean, 743 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: we had this song for a couple of years and 744 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: We've always really loved it and had our vocals on it, 745 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: and um, it's been mastered for a long time, and 746 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: when this opportunity came up, it just kind of, you know, 747 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: it was it was like a a label decision with us, 748 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: also with the people at the Baschelard and just kind 749 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: of all came together with this song. Nice. Okay, So 750 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: we have two sisters, Um, we got Emma and Maddie, 751 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: and then the group is also compromise of you, Dawson 752 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: and who who's a lifelong friend of the girls. That's 753 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: really fun. Did you Did you enjoy your quarantine together? 754 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: Were you allowed to quarantine together at the hotel? Are 755 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: you in three separate rooms for six days? We were 756 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: in three separate rooms actually right across the hall from 757 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: each other, so we could like open our door and 758 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: say what's up. But it's really forced, so we didn't 759 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: see him for five days, did you? It was it 760 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: was like we were able to We were able to 761 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: see each other a little bit. Um, but in the 762 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: beginning that was in the tory that we don't be 763 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: with each other and we make sure that each of 764 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: us tested negative on our own, so we weren't able 765 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: to like do anything really except just say. Well, we 766 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: did a lot of face times. We faced on each other. 767 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: It's like you're right over there and like, um, I'm 768 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: sure you two could probably lean over your balconies because 769 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: you guys lean over your balconies and talk or no, well, 770 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: our doors were right across from each other, so like 771 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: once a day we were opened the door and say like, hey, 772 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,959 Speaker 1: what's up, how's your day going, And then we would 773 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: just shut the door, or like we can hear each 774 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: other's meals coming because they would not come. So yeah, totally. 775 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: That was the same with with me when I was there, 776 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, they're getting food now, maybe I 777 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: stored our food now? Um okay, so you you, um 778 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: Maddie are a huge Bachelor fan. How did it feel 779 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: to be performing on the show. Was that surreal? It 780 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: was definitely kind of a fan girl moment. I am 781 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: the biggest Bachelor fans, So I was so excited that 782 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: we got the opportunity to play. And I actually had 783 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot more respect for the show after being there 784 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: and seeing like how sweet the producers were and like no, 785 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: like curious and like amazing, like well put together it 786 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: all was. It was. It was really awesome. That's so 787 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: good to hear. Did you feel the chemistry between Piper 788 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: and Matt And was there anything that happened during that 789 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: day that we didn't get to see. Um, I think 790 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: you'll definitely see it. But they were just like making out, 791 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: like right in front of us, and it's like two 792 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: so it's like you like don't want to look because 793 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to laugh. But there's a lot of 794 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: chemistry and we got to talk to them afterwards, and 795 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: they're both so sweet. Also, Matt is gigantic. He's so 796 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: tall and the sweetest person ever. Like you can just 797 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: tell she has a good heart. Yeah, you can. You 798 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: can see the chemistry between them. And in fun fact too, 799 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: he's from he's from North Carolina. He's from Raleigh, which 800 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: is where I was born too, So him and I 801 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: are both from the same home state, a home city, 802 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: and he went to Wake Forest, which is where my 803 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: uncle actually works. So it's kind of kind of a 804 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: small world. Yeah, kind of a small role with them, 805 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: but there it was cool at the end of it, 806 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: like once we were done plane, they just kind of 807 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: let the cameras they were just let the cameras roll 808 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: and then they just kept kissing so they could get 809 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of good footage of them kissing. So that 810 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: was the weirdest part was when we were done singing, 811 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: they were still like just going at it, and it 812 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: was like one of those that we're just kind of like, yeah, 813 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: they weren't even on us at all, but just just 814 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: being in that moment was funny. You won't see our 815 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: reactions to that, because like, obviously that's for them to 816 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: get good footage of them, but just like if you 817 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: would have been a fly on the wall in the room, 818 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: it would have been, Oh my gosh, it's so funny. 819 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 1: That is so odd. I never experienced them to ever 820 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: be like, keep kissing more, that's what they told them, 821 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: or it was just like, oh, we're going to catch 822 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: them kissing, just just kissing for a long time, keep going. 823 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: They just okay, let them do their thing. Yeah, oh 824 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: that's fine. N it was it was it was sure. 825 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: Did you get to speak with them at all afterwards? Yes, 826 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: pictures and talked about football, talked about how everybody's quarantine 827 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: has been, how long they've been there. We got the 828 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: schot for a little bit. Did you gather anything from 829 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: that conversation about like how Matt was feeling about all 830 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: the chaos going down during his season. I know no 831 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: idea that there would be so much drama by how 832 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: he acted okay, so well put together honestly, after we've 833 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: been obviously watching every episode, and I would have ever 834 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: expected all of the chaos has gone down by the 835 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 1: way that he was acting with us. That's a good point. 836 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't even think about that. He carried 837 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 1: himself so well that night in the room, and then 838 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: watching the episodes, it's like, really, has I had to 839 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: put up with a lot, you know, and like every 840 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: bachelor does, it's it's a hard job. I can't imagine 841 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: being able to do it. But um, yeah, he was 842 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: really cool and he was really sweet to her, and 843 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: he's he said, like, you know, she's a really sweet girl, 844 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: like we have a great connection, and he goes, I 845 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: was so excited to pick her for this one on one, 846 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: Like I knew this is what I like, you know, 847 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted it to be her to come 848 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: on this date, which was really cool for us too, 849 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: because it was like, hey, like who knows at the 850 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: end of to gather, you know, this is we we 851 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: were their first concert ever, so I'd be crazy. Yeah, 852 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: that's that's really cool. That's really nice to hear you. 853 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: Guys made your epic debut at the Rhyman Auditorium, UM, 854 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: and you returned to the Grand Old Opera stage on 855 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: February one. Where can people check out your music? What 856 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: do you recommend they listen to first? Yeah, I get 857 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: them hot. You can find our music on every music platform, 858 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: Apple Music, iTunes, Spotify, UM, and obviously our newest single, 859 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: everything I Love, just came out and that's the song 860 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: that we performed on The Bachelor. Yeah, and it's it's 861 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: the best, it's the best representation of us. You know, 862 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: we grow so much, and we've been releasing music for 863 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: the last couple of years and it's cool to see 864 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: the journey where it's where we've come, where we've been, 865 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, kind of where we are now. Um. But 866 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: we love this song. We're really really proud of it. 867 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, we know we've had it for 868 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: a couple of years and just waiting for the right 869 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: moment to release it, and it's just felt like the 870 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: right moment. Once we sang it, it was like, all right, 871 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta do this perfect? All right, Well, 872 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for joining us and for 873 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: bringing some live music to the Bachelor. Oh of course, 874 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: we're so thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. 875 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: See you guys, I Ashley, For as much as this 876 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: season is feeling like it's fallen short, I still have 877 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: hope that the last few weeks of Matt James's seasons 878 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: are going to be something we talked about forever. They're 879 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna be incredible, And since it kind of reminds me 880 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: of Colton Underwood season, right, most of the Colton season 881 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: we're like, ah, this is just okay, and then it 882 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: was the last few weeks that we really started to 883 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: like invest into the contestants and invest into the show. 884 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: It happens. So I'm not going to be shocked if, 885 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: like from Hometown dates on, do you really start to 886 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: feel this thing? But until then we're gonna keep talking 887 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: about it and sharing our honest opinion. It's been uh, 888 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: still a blast, Ashley as always. Uh, it's good to 889 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: be with you on Almost Famous podcast. Ditto boy um 890 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see you guys on Thursday to get the 891 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: one Pablo episode drops and we'll be doing Alive which 892 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: you can still join. Yeah, no, they're sold out, but 893 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: you can do me and great now you can still join. 894 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: There's still tickets available to join. Yeah, unlimited unlimited you 895 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: just no more free tickets, so the free tickets have 896 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: been given now, um, but you can still buy tickets 897 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: and join. Coming out with us for night, talk about 898 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 1: the book, talk about life, let's dive into it all together. Hey, 899 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: with that, I've been Ben Guy. Follow the Benn and 900 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio, or subscribe 901 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts