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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the latest edition of No Fouls Given

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Speaker 2: of course your coles Big Wise, joined as always by

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Speaker 2: Danny Green Paul Pierce. We got another dope show on

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Speaker 2: the horizon for you guys. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do things a little bit different this

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Speaker 2: episode and start with some fan questions and producer Chris

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Speaker 2: is just an amazing curator of questions.

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Speaker 1: But let's listen.

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Speaker 2: First one we're gonna throw at you, Paul from My

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Speaker 2: Man Poet AC nine five eighty six.

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Speaker 3: What's up.

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Speaker 1: For Paul?

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Speaker 2: You guarded both Bron and Kobe at the peaks.

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Speaker 1: Of both of their careers. Who was harder for you

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Speaker 1: to defend.

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Speaker 4: At the peak of their superpowers?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: For sure? They both won the m v P.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you played Lebron in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But year, Yeah, I played the blind in the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Is if man? I played Lebron way more times? But

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Speaker 4: like way like yeah in the East, like four times

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Speaker 4: a year, playoffs every year. But Kobe just kept pressure

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Speaker 4: on you every single like I'll never forget the game.

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Speaker 4: He took forty one shots harder the guard.

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Speaker 1: That's unreal and individual.

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Speaker 3: You gotta go.

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Speaker 4: Every time I think he shot.

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Speaker 3: It's only about eighty each team guess about eighty shots forty.

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Speaker 4: One shots on me in Boston one year and I

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Speaker 4: was just like, this is unreal every time now talk

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Speaker 4: about the pressure. And I remember coming back to the

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Speaker 4: time out, I think he scored like ten straight on me. Right,

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Speaker 4: so we like, you know, they like looking around like

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Speaker 4: who got Kobe? Right? I was just like, I got it.

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Speaker 4: You have to yell at everybody like I got him,

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Speaker 4: like shut up, like you know what I'm saying, like

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Speaker 4: looking at him because he like straight, And I was

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Speaker 4: like god, god, God, damn it. Oh man, it was

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Speaker 4: crazy though. He just puts more pressure.

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Speaker 2: I love that just has an idea that just like

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Speaker 2: individually is a defender. If you know, this guy is

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Speaker 2: gonna try to fucking score you man, and he's really

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Speaker 2: good at it, it's a tremendous amount of pressure. I

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Speaker 2: like this question, what's your all time favorite meal? We

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Speaker 2: get you, Paul, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't have like a favorite anything. Usually it's hard

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Speaker 5: for me to pick one. Things like that much more

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Speaker 5: than anything else. I was a big breakfast guy. Got

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Speaker 5: you like for shoot around? I always did to cut

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Speaker 5: it back into benedict. I was a pancake French like

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Speaker 5: waffle type like okay with the scrambled eggs and bacon.

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Speaker 5: But I said, I've cut down old and like I

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Speaker 5: would say, like nighttime or before after games, I would

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Speaker 5: try to load up on carbs, either get some Italian

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Speaker 5: or something usually like that category. But I wasn't a

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Speaker 5: picky eater, got you, But yeah, I was more of

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Speaker 5: a breakfast and more of like an Italian guy when

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Speaker 1: But I think they might mean, like, what's your favorite dish?

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Speaker 1: I don't have one, You don't have one?

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Speaker 4: What about you my all time favorite dishes? For show,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the salmon blackened okay with the baked potato,

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Speaker 4: with the cheese and sour cream loaded up and some

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Speaker 4: like broccolini got load. That was my pre game meal

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Speaker 4: every game.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the dope.

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Speaker 4: That was my pre game.

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Speaker 5: That was the thing, like people stuck to like I

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Speaker 5: ate that before every game. But it was a thing

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Speaker 5: for most people back then, and we didn't also have

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Speaker 5: a bunch of variety of a bunch of great stuff.

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Speaker 5: But now that the league is chefs, you can order

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Speaker 5: what you want, have to shoot around my rookie.

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Speaker 4: Contract, it was more like Boston Market. And then when

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Speaker 4: I got the deal, let's get that chef and make that.

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Speaker 3: Was good that people don't go to anymore.

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Speaker 2: The Boston Market definitely was was always a favorite. Was

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Speaker 2: my favorite meal? Is is Jamaican oxtail?

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Speaker 4: About that?

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Speaker 2: If you make the right Jamaican oxtail, Like, I've got

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Speaker 2: a spot for you out here.

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Speaker 4: Actually you don't need.

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Speaker 3: That, because I don't. I only eat Jamaican food when

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Speaker 3: I go back to New York.

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Speaker 2: What actually happens some great Jamaican food, but you take

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Speaker 2: and give safety.

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Speaker 4: In your own hands.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I forget the name of the

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Speaker 1: one spot that I went to, but it it was

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Speaker 4: It was that little shopping center, yes, yes, right there, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: it was like yes, a little mini like type of

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Speaker 4: many like the three shops there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yelled Joe's Joel's.

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Speaker 1: It was authentic, Yeah, hungry Joe's in Inglewood.

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Speaker 3: And it was a line that right by Party City

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Speaker 4: No, it's right there on like Lebrea and Sentinel or something, and.

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Speaker 1: It's Jamaicans in there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's what's the other spot?

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Speaker 4: That's my that's my You gotta go there beef.

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Speaker 5: Jamaican food when I go back to Back East Chinese

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Speaker 5: food because it's different in the Chinese.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I go back home. It's like I gotta give

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Speaker 3: me beef patty with some coc But.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely I know all my hate people gonna be

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Speaker 2: mad at me, but like that's.

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Speaker 1: My favorite Inglewood with the cabbage. God. Yeah, steam vegetables.

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Speaker 1: That's something for me too.

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Speaker 2: Next question that we got, uh should the Mavericks we get?

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Speaker 1: And we got this from that's my uncle Darryl g

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Speaker 1: that's your uncle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dar Darryl Green shouts to Dark Green out here

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Speaker 2: shouts to uncle Darryl un should the.

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Speaker 1: Mad who one of these bigs? Should the MAVs be

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Speaker 1: trying to get off of right now?

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Speaker 5: I Mean we talked about it last episode and I've

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Speaker 5: been talking about it throughout the week, like it's time

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Speaker 5: for them to like the fan of me wants to

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Speaker 5: see them whole unhealthy, but the GM and me is

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Speaker 5: like it's time to make moves like blow it up.

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Speaker 3: And that's not just that's a d kyrie.

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Speaker 1: You're picking till twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 5: The only big that I'm keeping, really, Lively is still young.

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Speaker 5: He's with Cooper Flag, even Gafford. I don't know how

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Speaker 5: young is, but gaffind PJ. Washington solid but said everybody

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Speaker 5: else but Lively is only big that I'm considering. Like,

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Speaker 5: if I'm starting over, I'm keeping Lively in Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 4: But just re signed Gafford.

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Speaker 3: You just signed PJ too.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you just signed resigned PJ. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 4: the obvious choice is a D for.

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Speaker 1: Show because he's the most valuable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the most value, and he don't fit like with

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Speaker 4: the timeline if they're not gonna be winning now, yes,

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Speaker 4: so start with him and then see what you're getting,

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Speaker 4: then figured out from.

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Speaker 5: There, who's the next big start to get traded? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 2: A D like please freedom man, like, let him go

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Speaker 2: to a team that's actually trying to accomplish something right now.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, the reason they're not complishing is because

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Speaker 5: he hasn't been I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Know it's tough, and he's he's dealt with this throughout

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Speaker 2: his career. Just availability, but yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 2: I think you should be trying to get rid of

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Speaker 2: PJ and he's uh, well Gafford, Yeah, and a D

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Speaker 2: because I think another thing is Cooper Flag is out

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Speaker 2: of position. I think he's a four, like they're forcing

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Speaker 2: him to try to be some kind of winging three.

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Speaker 2: Today's doesn't speak to me like they can.

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Speaker 5: Play point forward, but I don't need to play point

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Speaker 5: guard the whole time.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't think he should handling

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Speaker 2: the ball as much as he has.

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Speaker 3: So could he be Jalen Johnson is basically the question, That's.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. To me, he's more of a who's

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Speaker 1: more of a four?

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Speaker 3: You know, he plays point forward?

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Speaker 2: He had, he he gets his It's not that he

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Speaker 2: shouldn't get opportunities to create and you know, run offense through,

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Speaker 2: but like he can't be the primary person that you're.

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Speaker 1: Doing that I feel, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think they need to get rid of

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Speaker 2: everybody that isn't Lively the next who's the next superstar

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Speaker 2: that's going to be traded?

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Speaker 3: Know that? That's so.

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Speaker 1: John Moran is on the clock.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, it's definitely.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I think bookers, they're both committed to

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Speaker 2: the Booker thing, both him and the team.

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Speaker 4: Uh good one. I think it's I think it's Jos

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Speaker 4: the obvious, maybe Zion Zion if we're even calling him

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, who else is in the conversation

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Speaker 5: that that could be a d is one? You know,

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Speaker 5: people have been talking about the whole Lebron situation like

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Speaker 2: Right Young, that's definitely. I mean, Trey Young will move

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Speaker 2: before Joah. To be honest, I think because I think

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Speaker 2: Atlanta the organization is actually done with Trey Young and

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Speaker 2: because about the fact that they didn't.

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Speaker 1: Want to pay him and they're winning, you know.

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Speaker 2: So whereas like with Memphis, as we talked about last episode,

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Speaker 2: I don't think management is there yet. You know, maybe

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Speaker 2: they should be, but I don't think that they're actually like, yo,

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Speaker 2: we need to get this guy out of here.

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Speaker 1: So Trey Young is probably the answer.

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Speaker 3: LaMelo Ball.

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball isn't bro like they at the end of

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Speaker 1: last season, it was important media talks that they we're

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Speaker 1: open to talks, like they said that a couple of guys.

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Speaker 3: Were forgetting about might be changing.

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Speaker 1: He's already told his team that he's open.

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Speaker 5: To it, but they've been playing well enough for him

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Speaker 5: to stay there right now. But he told family went

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Speaker 5: back to Greece, right, all three four kids he got,

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Speaker 5: They all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, He's saying, like, Milwaukee's not my permanent home.

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Speaker 5: He sent his family to be wherever. Yeah, the family

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Speaker 5: checked out of store. I think the kids are going

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Speaker 5: to I think the kids are in the family. That

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Speaker 5: was the reports about a month ago they moved to Greece.

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Speaker 2: That the message he's sending is like, yeah, this ain't

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Speaker 2: my permanent home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the right.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, you guys always getting rid of giant, but like, bro,

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Speaker 2: this time it feels real.

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Speaker 1: To be honest.

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Speaker 5: When he moved the family back to the crib, his

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Speaker 5: crib crib, like yeah, I ain't calling this home no more.

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Speaker 5: So that could be another star that could Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't be outside.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a thing.

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Speaker 5: So you don't think like you don't think girls can

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Speaker 2: You think there's a bunch of thirsty chicks in Memphis

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like they don't see because I think

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Speaker 3: They loved this.

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Speaker 5: All they knew was the Spurs because that we were

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Speaker 1: We're we're women.

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Speaker 2: At places you were socializing that reciting your stats and

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Speaker 5: People people like we couldn't go nowhere. It was very,

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Speaker 5: You you see celebrities all time. Also, they don't care.

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Speaker 5: You can't operate the way. You can't operate the same

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Speaker 4: Like people women move to Los Angeles, they can try

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Speaker 3: Would they do that at any game, like any game

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Speaker 1: People don't move to Salt Lake City to try to.

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Speaker 3: Meet I'm not saying. I'm saying people.

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Speaker 3: They were going to go put themselves in the same night,

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Speaker 4: You're not about the city and tell us that San

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, making me look bad.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean, is he just told on hisself.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't like he was crazy already said before this stable, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know he.

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Speaker 4: Slick jumping on thinking slick.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know. That's why you're.

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Speaker 2: Educated, in formed, just so we could move off of this.

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Speaker 2: Like I moved here eight years ago, and I was

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Speaker 4: Before I moved here.

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't know what I've seen.

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Speaker 2: With my own two eyes. Brouh and I lived in

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Speaker 1: Bro next level, it's next level.

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Speaker 5: I don't be outside. That's why the places that I live,

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Speaker 4: No, maybe it is Milwaukee into Salt Lakes that we

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Speaker 3: You said, I'm not informed.

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Speaker 4: I'm not of those cities because I wasn't outside them city.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you when you would go play in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 4: In the room, you know, Danny know where the sponsors.

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Speaker 3: I definitely did not go. That's why I said. You

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Speaker 4: The Philly brove is going on.

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Speaker 3: Only people going on. I would I would not, never not.

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Speaker 5: I didn't go out to the cities I lived in,

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Speaker 3: Like that.

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Speaker 4: Goliah's in Philly. I think it's called Nah.

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Speaker 2: They got they got a decent It's not they don't

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Speaker 2: stuff to do. It's not as boring as all right,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to get you guys talk like you're your

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Speaker 2: draft experience. Because John Krasinski of the Athletic that's my man. Actually,

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Speaker 2: uh he reported that the Timberwolves were scared off of

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Speaker 2: drafting LaMelo Ball because in the pre draft process he

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Speaker 4: I mean, didn't.

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Speaker 3: Didn't Charlote have a higher pick than Minnesota anyway?

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Speaker 2: Nah, I think Ant was the number one pick and

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Speaker 2: LaMelo was number three because the Warriors would I think

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Speaker 1: So LaMelo was the third picking in the draft.

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Speaker 3: That's prett good men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know because I'm friends with a lot of

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Speaker 3: LaMelo got Rookie of the Year over and did he not?

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Speaker 1: I think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of a lot of Warriors fans were

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Speaker 1: But it's like the talent was so obvious.

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Speaker 3: She wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He probably wasn't, but like you want to take a trouble,

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Speaker 5: A Warriors Again, so he's a better pick than Wiseman.

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Speaker 5: But I still don't think he would have fit that

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Speaker 2: I think he's a I don't know. I think LaMelo

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Speaker 2: has enough feel for the game. I mean if he

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Speaker 3: Looking at this lineup, it's like who was a better pick?

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these guys. It's just a

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Speaker 2: tough one. Patrick Williams Hayes is not in the NBA anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Danny is killing now would have been a good pick.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Facell got a nice second deal. Hali Burton his

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Speaker 2: top eight or nine guard in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: According to Day.

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Speaker 3: Keep trying to lower Smith.

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Speaker 2: Has made a nice career for himself, Cole Anthony, these

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Speaker 3: That's because this is a COVID year. That's why playing

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Speaker 1: R J Hampton, i Q Painting Pritchard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamie strong.

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Speaker 2: Draft, it's just the brewing that top of the draft

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Speaker 2: with some of those picks. But yeah, you're right because

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Speaker 2: of the COVID year. But we wanted to ask you, guys,

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Speaker 2: do you have any memories of your pre draft process,

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Speaker 2: Like do you remember what these guys were asking you, Like,

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Speaker 2: what was the process? How many teams did you meet with?

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Speaker 2: You was a lottery picky? I met with five all

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Speaker 2: American But see, I met with the top five teams.

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Speaker 2: I was projected to.

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Speaker 1: Tell in the draft that was like part of your narrative.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was projected to go number two. All of

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Speaker 4: my drafts had me number two.

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Speaker 1: Two would have been the number.

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Speaker 4: It was Vancouver and they picked Babby, they picked my baby,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going on.

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Speaker 1: You never worked out for Boston.

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Speaker 4: I never worked out for none of the teams, never

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Speaker 4: just like, I didn't know where I was gonna go.

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Speaker 4: I thought I'd go to the number eight to Philly though,

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Speaker 4: gonna let all right, maybe Larry Brown. So like, once

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Speaker 4: you get out of that process or the process, for me,

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Speaker 4: it was like, all right, since I didn't get chosen

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Speaker 4: where I'm gonna get picked, you know. So now I'm clueless.

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Speaker 4: You know, my agent's making calls. We don't know what

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Speaker 4: the hell's going on. It's like, damn, where I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: This is a hell of a draft too.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, damn.

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Speaker 2: Twe a lot of guys with great careers, Bibby, even

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Speaker 2: Rachel the Friends had a pretty good career.

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Speaker 1: Damn, Dirk, Dirk and back to back. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy to the teams that drafting the didn't end

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Speaker 1: Guys plaid long careers man.

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Speaker 3: But Noah. Yeah, So for me, Bro, I worked out

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Speaker 3: for like thirteen fourteen teams.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you worked out for thirteen.

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Speaker 3: I was the second round.

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Speaker 1: You were mocked for the second round.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 5: I was mocked from late first at best. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: But like you played four years that you and I

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Speaker 3: did all four years, Bro, and we won a championship.

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Speaker 5: So they don't show a lot of love to seniors.

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Speaker 5: I did all four years. You feel like you already

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Speaker 5: I think Tyler snug in a lot of too. They

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Speaker 3: Translate to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: But you got it.

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Speaker 3: You got in there. I think it was thirteen.

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Speaker 5: And then I said, so Blake was in there. But

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Speaker 5: I also tested the water year before, so I've seen

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00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 5: the process.

450
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: Okay, got a little bit both.

451
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: Like I've seen some funny shit happening. We talked about

452
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 3: Tony Douglas here.

453
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 5: He came in his draft like interviews with a suit,

454
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 5: business card, all type like he was ready to roll.

455
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 5: And also on the other side of it, I think.

456
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: The year before, I think Mike Beasley might have been.

457
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: The year before you picked Tyreek Avas, Ricky Rubio and

458
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 4: Johnny Flynn before Steph.

459
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa. I seemed to beat on number two.

460
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: Tough, tough, He's one of.

461
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: The top big men at the time.

462
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 4: Jef Curry and uh DeMar Derozo was at my basketball

463
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 4: camp and the year before that, I had a Nike

464
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 4: camp out in here and I had a chance to

465
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 4: see them.

466
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: Bro.

467
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: Class was really good. We had a good class.

468
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: Bro.

469
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: This is a solid CLA.

470
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: A lot of them placed in some years in the league.

471
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 5: So Blake had James, Tyreek had a solid cuard, so

472
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 5: the Eryl, Ricky Rubio and Steph Jordan Hill had a

473
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: solid game, John Drew High, Brenda Jennings, Jeff t Joe

474
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 5: Henderson said, Collison Austin d James Johnson, even.

475
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Drew Holliday in there. Yep, we had a squad, bro.

476
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: I mean, we had a good little class.

477
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 4: Even if I see, let's see how many Hall of

478
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: Famers even the.

479
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: Second rounders Hall of Famers, James Harden, Damar, Steph Curry, Damarrow.

480
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: I think DeMar can get in.

481
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday, He's won two chips. They're probably gonna.

482
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

483
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: Jeff t said he had a good career to Tony

484
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 5: Tony Douglas.

485
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 3: Second round. We had some guys in the second round too,

486
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: those solid. Uh.

487
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 5: We had Jody Meggs, Pat Bev in the second round,

488
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: Market Story, Chase Budinger, j Price, my Dog, Patty Mills,

489
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: Sam Young, Summers, Dante Cunningham.

490
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 3: We had a we had a nice little draftman draft class.

491
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: Pattie Mills. So you got drafted in the second round

492
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: to forty six, yep, Yeah, and what year was this?

493
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: Oh nine?

494
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: Bro oh nine? So damn?

495
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: So that was so yeah.

496
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: Worked out for every team that asked me to work out,

497
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: and I was like thirteen fourteen. Even the year before

498
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 5: you couldn't go to so the year before I had

499
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 5: like a little fractional album. But I did the process

500
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 5: anyway and worked out like four or five teams just

501
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 5: to see was like they went back to school. Yeah,

502
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 5: and next year I think I had like thirteen or

503
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 5: fourteen workouts.

504
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 4: Damn and the questions interview.

505
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 5: Nah, I remember some of the workouts being in Cleveland.

506
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: I had a really good workout. I thought that was

507
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: gonna pick me in the first round. They end up

508
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 5: picking Christian Nyanga and they sent him back to save money,

509
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 5: like he went back over He was from Congo, played

510
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 5: in Spain, went back over seat, so saved money. They

511
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: got me drafting, they got me in. They got me

512
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 5: in the second round. So they found me the second round.

513
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 5: But I thought they were gonna get me in the

514
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 5: first round. I also remember being in Uh, What's it?

515
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 5: Larry Brown's said that Steph was in workout with me

516
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 5: Gerald and I think Tony Douglas, but he was in Charlotte.

517
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: Was Larry Brown Show at the time. Could it was

518
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: a long It was a long workout. There's a lot

519
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: of talking. He stopped every possession, explained and break it

520
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: down and we was like, damn, can we just get

521
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: to the you know what I'm saying?

522
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 5: Like, but yeah, it was a lot of workouts, man,

523
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 5: and some of them went well. Some of them didn't remember.

524
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: Marcus Storton, he was a killer bro used to get

525
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 5: buckets and some work he was torching motherfuckers. But yeah,

526
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: and Toronto had one of the toughest workouts he Will.

527
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: Did you work out against t Will Yep?

528
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah he was he he was athletic, you know what

529
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

530
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: He was one of him.

531
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 5: Sam Young, they were like my positions, guy, and I'm like,

532
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 5: you know, you see them compare yourselfthing like that, These

533
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 5: motherfucks going high like he was younger athletic, and I'm like,

534
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 5: I thought I proved that I was in the same

535
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 5: type of lane, like I should be drafted now they

536
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: went way higher and gerald to a younger athletic. I

537
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: just didn't have the athleticism they had. Yeah, but it

538
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: worked out against all in Toronto. Sid had the toughest workout.

539
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: Toronto made you run a lot of Yeah, I remember running.

540
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: I think it was it. Sam Young.

541
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: I think he did the vertical test. Had his arm

542
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 5: caught in the fucking vertical. He had like stitches, some

543
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: crazy jump on his arm caught in the damn hooked

544
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 5: into them vertical like the pole on the side.

545
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, some wall. But yeah, fun times, man. Draft process.

546
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: I remember when one workout for Denver only lasted like

547
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: thirty minutes. I thought it was a good workout too.

548
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: I was making shots. I thought like, you know, because

549
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: it was like the number two or three? Oh yeah yeah,

550
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: Because I was like, damn all right. He must have

551
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: liked because who did they get?

552
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: Who did they pick?

553
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: They picked right my team?

554
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: Okay they pick oh wow?

555
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was like the number three, there was third.

556
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: I thought that a great world. It was only thirty minutes.

557
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 4: But I made them, y'all fell I made every shot.

558
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: I was pushing full cord three, pushing full court. It

559
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: was like, shoot a half court shot. I think I

560
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 4: hit that. It's crazy.

561
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I'm definitely going number two.

562
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was like I probably probably, Yeah, I'm

563
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: definitely going number two. Be around with y'all, go.

564
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: So good.

565
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know to this next topic, which I know

566
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: comes comes up a lot, especially on shows like ours.

567
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: Uh, when you talk about the faces of the league and.

568
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: Guys like Harden, guys like Steph KD, even Russ are

569
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: still producing at you know, a pretty high level and

570
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: they are who and like when you look at the

571
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: TV schedule, they're still centering the TV schedule around Steph

572
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: KD and Lebron right, So like it shows you like

573
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: there's still the biggest draws in the league, And like,

574
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: I think the league is in the process of building

575
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: these other guys into people that average fans are going

576
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: to care about. And I guess, like what I'm asking

577
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: you guys, who you guys think are going to be

578
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: the guys that we anchor this thing around going forward.

579
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: Because I've Stephen Lebron and KD can't play forever.

580
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: It's a it's kind of I'm gonna say, it's disappointing.

581
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 5: But for Americans, it's tough because there's a lot of

582
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: foreigners that's kind of taken over and looking like the

583
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: face of the league. There's not many Americas that we have.

584
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 5: We have Jason Tatum and Edwards. Outside of that, wembyok,

585
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 5: Luca Sga is Canadian, Like, we have some good.

586
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: Young talent. Yeah, but they're all pretty much foreign international guys,

587
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

588
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: So we need more Americans man to kind of step

589
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 5: up take over the tours. I said, you get like

590
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: LaMelo to play some serious basketball. Zion, you know what

591
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: I'm saying, get healthy.

592
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Those got Zion, Zion John and Joahn Morant.

593
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: If their careers went the way we thought it was

594
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: supposed to, they would be the people we're talking about

595
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: all the time. So we kind of have a generational

596
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: gap because those dudes didn't step up to the plate,

597
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: so to speak, to sort of take that mantle.

598
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: Is it more so off the court that it is

599
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: on the court?

600
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: I would say it's both at this point, because we

601
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: can't say that either one of them are killing it,

602
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, on the court.

603
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: To hold it down right, Yeah, for sure.

604
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: The thing is to become the face of the league,

605
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: you gotta be the best player in the league. Yeah,

606
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: So what American do we see is the best player

607
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: in the league. We don't have one that we consider

608
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: that's the best.

609
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: Kate is up and coming, but right now it's Wemby

610
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: s g A.

611
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: Right. How many faces of the league have there been

612
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: in the last thirty years?

613
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: Realistically? Man after Mike, bron Kobe.

614
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: Best player, best player in the league? K like you're

615
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: talking about yah shock.

616
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are the guys that they anchored.

617
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: The probably the top five guys in the league. Usually

618
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 5: it's usually the top center position, the top wing, top point.

619
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 5: So it's like usually a top five guy.

620
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: We don't got nobody there.

621
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, no, it's not looking good.

622
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: I think the.

623
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: American face of the league college thing is unique enough

624
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: that even his foreign nature could kind of transcend it

625
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: because it's so unique. And I think once the other

626
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: machines get behind him, like Nike and his other Brandon Dors.

627
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: Big man can't sell shoes.

628
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

629
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: Historically that's been the case, but I just think Wenby

630
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: is such a special case.

631
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: That is gonna be Luka Doncic possibly.

632
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: So what were you saying before he said that, you

633
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: were saying Mike when the face of the league, Well.

634
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: The face of the league, I think the.

635
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Looe these guys like, yeah, it was Mike retired and

636
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: then it was Kobe.

637
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: Was never just like the face of the league, you

638
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like it was Jordan's Yeah then

639
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: like because think about it, Kobe was young, Yeah, for

640
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: sure was young. When Micro, I guess you could say

641
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: it was Shack and then you could probably say like

642
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: Shack or something like that.

643
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Yes, because even to this day, Shack is still one

644
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: of the most famous globally.

645
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: People because music, He's got a big he was.

646
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: A big fucking star bro Like he was a very

647
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: famous basketball player to a level that like none of

648
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: these younger guys can compare to.

649
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: Which will transition to our next topic of like basketball

650
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: movies all time, Like some of those movies.

651
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 4: Remember that I do.

652
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: Five Bro.

653
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: I was a kid watching that sh Neon found Neon

654
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: and I'm saying breaking rims and ship.

655
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Luka Don being in l A,

656
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I think that just matters.

657
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Playing for the Lakers matters in a way that like

658
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: it's just different than playing, you know, for the Orlando Magic.

659
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: It's just not the same, Like in LA propels you to.

660
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 5: Being in a bigger market, bigger They also winning his ability,

661
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: like yes, the only chance we got with K, Tyrese

662
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: and Edwards and Don is like they have to win,

663
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: like Philly has to be winning, for Tyres to be

664
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 5: Detroit has to be back on the map again, for

665
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: K to be considered.

666
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: Like the FA League, the face of the league is

667
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: gonna look a lot different than it ever has the

668
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: next one, because these are the things that came with

669
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: the face of the league. You were popular amongst the kids.

670
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: You sold all the shoes, all our magic Bird Jordans,

671
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 4: you sold people wanted to actually be you, and you

672
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: had this charisma you had this flair you are exciting

673
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: to watch. So like when I look at this list

674
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: of the top players who like it's gonna be different now, it's.

675
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: Not gonna be that the world is different. These young

676
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: kids they want to be. It's a different these kids today,

677
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: they look to take They do like stuff because he's

678
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: he's relatable, but also.

679
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Like LaMelo, like dude to play video games on Twitch.

680
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: So what I'm saying they gravitate to its against The

681
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 5: celebrity is very different now than it was then. The

682
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: celebrity is way more about like value than than it

683
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: is now. Like we see everybody so much access to

684
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 5: everybody now it seemed kind of too much. So like

685
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 5: I know how Anthony edverars operating acts. Yeah, and again

686
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: it would probably be held to a higher like platform

687
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: because they wouldn't see all the things that's going on

688
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: off the court, Like all these women are coming out.

689
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: Saying, oh yeah the baby mom.

690
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: Probably he's you know, yeah.

691
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 5: All that other outside stuffs on the factor. It seems

692
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: like everybody does right, everybody's in everybody's business. Facts, you

693
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: didn't know everybody's business.

694
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: So true, right, so true? Like you know, I was

695
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: talking to somebody about Gary Payton and they were like, bro.

696
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: People don't even know ten percent of this he was

697
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: was getting into off the court, he got into a lot. Yeah,

698
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: but those days he makes it yeah, you know what

699
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: I mean, and keep it under wrapping. It was fine, right,

700
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: but nowadays he would.

701
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: Have been all over the news, all up on people's

702
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: camera phones and all kinds of crazy shit.

703
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into our favorite part of every

704
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: single show, and that's the Picks of the Night, presented

705
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: by Prize Picks. Raptors will be playing at the Sixers

706
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: more or less than eighteen and a half points for

707
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: one Scottie Barnes.

708
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 5: I feel like these type of games he gets up for,

709
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: you know, s guy likes the smoke, he likes to

710
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 5: talk shit, you know what I'm saying. I feel like

711
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: he's gonna come in and try to do his flexing

712
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: type shit like how he did on Giannis. I could

713
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: see him going for more than eighteen and a half

714
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 5: on this one.

715
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

716
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: And I like his matchups, like just physically.

717
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: To me, that's his biggest strength is how often he

718
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: could just overpower the guy that's guarding him.

719
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: And I don't think the Sixers outside of their.

720
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: Centers on the wing that has Scott so I like

721
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: his matchup again this more than eighteen and a half points.

722
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if it's gonna be the number for sure,

723
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: but whatever his number is, I think he gets more

724
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 5: than I can see a twenty plus point game.

725
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go less.

726
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Warriors at the heat Jimmy Butler more or less

727
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: than nineteen and a half points.

728
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: Against his They got smoke last year, didn't they.

729
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't got somestances of it. Did Jimmy even play play? Okay,

730
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: they got smoke last year. I think Jimmy want redemption. Absolutely,

731
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm more than nineteen. I'm he's gonna be getting to

732
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: that free throw line. He's gonna be talking, he's gonna

733
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: be egging on the crowd. I could see Jimmy going

734
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 2: for more than nineteen and a half.

735
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this because I remember when I went

736
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 4: back to play at certain arena's where I played.

737
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: It's tough.

738
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 4: It's tough. You know what I'm saying. You don't get

739
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 4: us standing. Probably it's gonna be emotion.

740
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: They did it, so it's not his first time, it's

741
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: the second time.

742
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: The second time but you know, he left a part

743
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: of his heart there. Yeah, and the fans know he did.

744
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Hell know he didin't getting They're gonna boom, They're gonna

745
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: last year, relentless.

746
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be emotional. I'm gonna go.

747
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: He's definitely emotional. He's getting booed.

748
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 5: He got boo last year, I think because he's got

749
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 5: a little familiarity with the space.

750
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: But it's still a fresh wound, you know, like that

751
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: has last year. Yeah, No, not as fresh.

752
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: So he's got a year to sud He's all right now,

753
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: I got a better team. I got come in. I

754
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: got these guys with me.

755
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you understand peak. Jimmy Butler was Miami.

756
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best years of his career Miami.

757
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: You know yeah, I just think about, like when bron

758
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: left Cleveland, how long these people were booing him still

759
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: basically until he went back. So yeah, I like, I

760
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: like Jimmy to Broxity occasion, Kings at the thunder S

761
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: g a more or less than thirty and book.

762
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: You know this.

763
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers locking.

764
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 5: But the only thing they might blow they might blow

765
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: them up. He's still he's still getting thirty and not

766
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 5: playing for quarters.

767
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going more.

768
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm going more for.

769
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: Kings have a horrible perimeter defense, a.

770
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: Horrible defense period.

771
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: Bro.

772
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Christie might be up next. For Willie Green, He's

773
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 5: another trap.

774
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: Situation is looking bad for him.

775
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: We wanted to do a way too early look at

776
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: the m v P race, but wanted to give you

777
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: guys a look at the odds, what people think, who

778
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: people think are the favorite right now?

779
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: Would you let's look any different?

780
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

781
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 3: I think I think I would have Giannis a little higher.

782
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: I think Lucas damn. You can make that argument.

783
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: But also I don't like how much further web Yama

784
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: is from the Lucas, and I think he's he's closer

785
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: than what these odds are giving him credit.

786
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Those games, those two games games and a couple of

787
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: a couple of loss they had the Golden State.

788
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 4: Don't matter if they finish in the top three, winning, winning,

789
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: they finishing the going.

790
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm going higher right now because they're a number one

791
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: in the East.

792
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: I think is getting I think has miss games because.

793
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: There's two games and they won without they won exactly.

794
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: That says something.

795
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 5: But they're winning is what I'm saying like, he's gonna

796
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: san Antonio if they would have won without want.

797
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: To the narrative. Media voters love to be like, well,

798
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: he's number one in the East.

799
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's games because san Antonio was.

800
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: They're not right now though, if san Antonio is in

801
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: the top three, they're nine in four. I'm saying, if

802
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: they're in the top three at the end of the year.

803
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be higher, but right now they're the seed

804
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: that was six.

805
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: I expect okay see, and I expect Denver to be

806
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: at the top. But like san Antonio didn't make the

807
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: playoffs last year.

808
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: No woman, he's out the last six months.

809
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm like, if you squeeze them into the

810
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: top three in the.

811
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 3: West, the number five right now is the stands.

812
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 4: I get it. Yeah, but they're gonna be better for sure.

813
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: But as it sins right now, the number five and

814
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: he forced them to the top three, yeah, you're gonna

815
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: have to.

816
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't even have a problem, Like I said, I

817
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: think he's a lot closer to and I guess the

818
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: Luca thing is like he's putting up his career best

819
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: numbers and the Lakers are winning, and yeah, just.

820
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: Doing it on the Lakers, fair or not, will elevate

821
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: your standing.

822
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 5: With m v P voters one hundred percent, and they're

823
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: they're ten and four, so they're ahead of Santonio. So

824
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 5: like I got Jokic number one, s should be number one,

825
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 5: should be number one, the best record of the league.

826
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: He's not even playing fourth quarters.

827
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm Yokis number one.

828
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: Yokish number two. Yorkis has unbelievab numbers. But where they

829
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 5: sitting in the West right now.

830
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: I just went with fifty five, number one, the number two.

831
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: They've won seventh straight.

832
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: They got Chicago, Yokis number one, number two. I'm going

833
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: Giannis at three, Luca four, okay, five, Victor is six. Okay,

834
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: that's because of the standings.

835
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: Kate is right outside of my m v P top five.

836
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: And I just think Victor just in terms of impact

837
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: with the game, man like what he's doing on both

838
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: ends of the court. Even though we usually just treat

839
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: m v P as most outstanding offensive player, I just

840
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: would love to incorporate what Wenby's doing the ball. He's

841
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: so dominant.

842
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: I have no argument that I'm cool with him being five.

843
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: We can get the m v P and defensive player well,

844
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: m for real, that's in the same he should win

845
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: the next Just give him the award right now. If

846
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 4: he plays, Yeah, give.

847
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: It to him.

848
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: So what do you guys think about these sort of

849
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: dark horse guys like a Steph Curry and Edwards Tyres,

850
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: Maxie Dono Games.

851
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: I think they can get in a voter. They can

852
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: make a top three voting depends on where their team lands.

853
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steph, get if Golden State somehow gets into the

854
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: top four of the West again, is gonna shoot up.

855
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, gonna shoot up these rankings.

856
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 5: As well as the top three, Like if Cleveland is

857
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: number one again, which I don't know if I see

858
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 5: that happening this year with injuries, but if Tires, if

859
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: they said a Philly, Minnesota or Golden State are in

860
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: the top three of the respective conferences, then you can

861
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: book them forgetting in the top like an MVP voting list,

862
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 5: Like they can be in the top three or top

863
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: five voting.

864
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: And that's the fun thing. There's so many more games

865
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: to play. So this is going to be a great

866
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: m VP race this year. Mount forward to it. Mount Rushmoores.

867
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a couple of Mount Rushmoores. The first

868
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: one is a big man center Mount Rushmore, and it's

869
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: Yoki on there already.

870
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: He's definitely on mind. I got to say that he's

871
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: on my mount. So yoke, howk okay, Kareem, that's it.

872
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: Oh, there's only four four people. You gotta take them off.

873
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking hot off of Bill Russell.

874
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: So Bill Russell, Kareem your kitchen, Shack, that's my that's

875
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: my Rushmore. That's your rush More, and Shack is my

876
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: number one center all all for me. Juster rush More

877
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: is just what I've seen this man do with my

878
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: own two eyes is just insane.

879
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 5: I gotta put I gotta put Kareem. Yeah, I gotta

880
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 5: put Kareem on there. I gotta put Shack on there.

881
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: Who did you take off?

882
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: I had to take off a km I'm putting.

883
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: I'm putting a queum up there, bro.

884
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: Keem quemd he's he's he's right outside of because like.

885
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm one of these guys.

886
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: Now we're going based off just talent and skill or

887
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: just the residue like yours.

888
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: It's just yours. Who do you?

889
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: Who would you like different? He said? Resumes or non

890
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: green yours?

891
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: All right, you got four chances to pick a center.

892
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: Shack, Hakeem, hmm, Shaq, Cokaem, Kareem, and then I'll put.

893
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: Up there all right, my rush more shack for Kareem,

894
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: and then I'm gonna go Will.

895
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: M M yeah, Wills. He doesn't ring give me.

896
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 4: I mean he's just too I mean, I mean he

897
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: was down the twenty averages on some seasons.

898
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: Well Bill Russell, well yeah, one he didn't win like that,

899
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

900
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: So that's how many?

901
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: How many?

902
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: What when he went like two ship he went one

903
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: with the Sixers and one with the Lakers.

904
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 3: He won two championships, but Russell got thirteen. I'm just respecting.

905
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Let me, Yeah, I got good God damn rushing.

906
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if I go just yet, but I

907
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: feel he will be there.

908
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: I just love everybody I think impacted both sides.

909
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: Of the ball.

910
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go will Bill, Shaq and Hakeem and yeah

911
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: the Korean Korean, Yeah, Koreem him.

912
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: I wanted Haem on it.

913
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: I want the but Hakim is not a bad pig.

914
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, guys, we didn't mention guys like

915
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: David Robinson. Oh my goodness, you know why. Patrick Ewing uh,

916
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: just some great players.

917
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 5: I mean, if Joel was healthy all throughout the years,

918
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 5: he would have been a guy. Joe could have been

919
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: a guy up there if he was help.

920
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: But Shaq talks about it all the time, just playing

921
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: in the nineties against you know, against Hock, against Pat,

922
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: against David Robinson, these guys with nightman matchups, and just

923
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: outside of the mount rushmore.

924
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: Whose one MVP at the center position besides those guys

925
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: you mentioned and Joel like, there's not.

926
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: Me seriously center m v p s right, you know

927
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: in the seventies the only one with only one all

928
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: the one, yeah, all the other ones.

929
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: I got six, five or six, but three, Kareem got six?

930
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: Willis read Dave?

931
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: How many MVPs do will got? Hm go to wils average.

932
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Won four m v p s. Who who Chamberlain for

933
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: everybody got Kareem went six or got six?

934
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 4: Sam got six?

935
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: Six m v ps bro Russell got six.

936
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I dispected them to start

937
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 3: like Russell got six.

938
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: Now Kareem to me man like he never gets his

939
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: dude in terms of the goat conversation. But to me

940
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: outside of like Lebron and and Mike obviously like Kareem

941
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: is like in terms of who put it on the

942
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: floor greatness, he's right there.

943
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: To me, I think Kareem had the best basketball career ever.

944
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 2: Like seriously, high school was like played on the most

945
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: unstoppable tea.

946
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: High school, college and U.

947
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: C l A like ink and everybody had the best

948
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: basketball career. Is no debate, Sure, you know, debate.

949
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: How many years of Kareem player? He didn't play twenty

950
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: years as well?

951
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: High school he won all the years, college, all the

952
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: years is he he's you know, he never did his

953
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: own pr.

954
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: He had the best basketball career of anybody.

955
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: Who memorial fucking U c L A nineteen time All Star,

956
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: fixing MVP.

957
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: Why was he considered the goat.

958
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Brou It's because it's because Koree like he hated doing

959
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: media champ suss.

960
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: He's like very to himself, stand off ish, so like

961
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: he's not doing his own marketing.

962
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Champion.

963
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: They might have lost three times, yeah, bro, and that's

964
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: only because fresh he was the best player in the country.

965
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: Wasn't about to play.

966
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: They had less teams back then too, right, like all

967
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 5: around college teams, I mean just every every college league everything.

968
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: That's Bill Russell he played in the NBA when it

969
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: was like eight teams.

970
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: And ship like that.

971
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: But Kareem like bro Kareem got he got.

972
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: Man all right?

973
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: Moving along, Man, shout out to Sacream. But yeah, we

974
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: do our New York City Mount Rushmore basketball movies.

975
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore of basketball movies. That's our next Mount Rushmore.

976
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: And I'm going straight off the dome with he got game.

977
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: For sure, Blue chips for sure.

978
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 3: Okay, do we can we count hoop dreams? You can.

979
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: For sure? Oh shoot, Man, definitely not space jam, not

980
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Coach Carter.

981
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: The first first Space Jame was first Sace was good

982
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: when we were young, Space.

983
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: I was. But like now now I can't do what

984
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: I feel Blue Chips. I find that thing on right

985
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: now and be in it. All them cheating ass college

986
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: coaches and all that ship.

987
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: It's legal.

988
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Now, who's my last movie? Man?

989
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: I got my top four.

990
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Six man. That's a good six man.

991
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 4: All right. So minds is above the rim, above the rim.

992
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 4: White man came down. Coach.

993
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm switching. I'm searching six man for

994
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: white Man. Can't jam for Showski.

995
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: I got coached Carter and then he got game.

996
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: He got Yeah, No for sure, he got Game We

997
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: want to school, so he.

998
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: Got when Rick Fox took him on that recruit, she

999
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: got Game.

1000
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: White man can't jump blue chips and damn, I want

1001
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 5: to say Sunset Park, but I feel like, what was

1002
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 5: the other one you just said?

1003
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 4: That was about the room the rim?

1004
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: No, no it's not romantic, that's I love you know

1005
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1006
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: No, we can't take away what we built. What was

1007
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: your top?

1008
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: What was your top?

1009
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: Four blue chips, white man can't jump? So he got

1010
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: Game and uh ship, I'm not forgetting.

1011
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: That.

1012
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 5: Six Man, six Man, Yeah, that's what was six Man

1013
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 5: is another one for me. So that so he got Game,

1014
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 5: white man can't jump, blue chips and then and then

1015
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 5: six Men six.

1016
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: Men was a bro I saw that in the movie.

1017
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: I was crying because yeah.

1018
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 5: Also because to me, my brother grew up together playing

1019
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: like close ways. So that's why it was like one

1020
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 5: of those movies from me. And actually I got a

1021
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: chance to see Kadem. I din't recognized him. He had

1022
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 5: a mascot. I was on a flight with him.

1023
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

1024
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, what's up.

1025
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 5: He's like, you're done playing? I'm like, who the Yeah,

1026
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 5: I'm done. I recognized him Kadeem. I was like, oh Ship,

1027
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, bro, I didn't know it was you.

1028
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Paul have been in a movie before.

1029
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: I've done some cameras what were you?

1030
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: And some ship?

1031
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: No, I forget.

1032
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: We gotta look at Paul's IMDb.

1033
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go Paul's im d V.

1034
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 5: Nah not second Space. The first one might have been

1035
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Sunce. That park was a good one

1036
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 5: for me, but I had to do six man.

1037
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: I've been a couple of cameras all Piers actor.

1038
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 3: Family, Let's dance.

1039
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: No, oh, this is a different Paul Piers hold on,

1040
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: which would oh former professional?

1041
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go? Oh there he is.

1042
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: Sheball Yeah, ball Damn. Y'all got a three point six

1043
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: extended family. Okay, stars on Mars and sneakerheads.

1044
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 4: Oh, it was one more. The one movie with the

1045
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: rock with the little kid. It was like a cameo. No,

1046
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: it's not the two Fairy because my kids is always

1047
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: talking about that, it's the little It's it's a kids movie.

1048
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 4: And I did a little club scene with.

1049
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: The rock Fire That was like my first one.

1050
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dope, though, that's dope.

1051
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: I always want to do a came sneakerheads? What is

1052
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: what sneakerheads?

1053
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: It was about these guys who was trying to know

1054
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 4: they was trying to sell sneakers or they're trying to

1055
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: like to make some money.

1056
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: Or Okay, yeah, I'm gonna try to find that one.

1057
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty. So that was like they was like

1058
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: trying to flip itself, like.

1059
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, my guys, we're gonna get you guys out of

1060
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: here with some predictions.

1061
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: Who do we think gonna win these NBA Cup games?

1062
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: And why Warriors at Heat Jimmy Butler Revenge game Heat still.

1063
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Hobbled, hobbled?

1064
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so we're just doing predictions, all.

1065
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: Right, two three, all right, let's get you guys out

1066
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: of here with some predictions.

1067
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler Revenge game, Warriors at the Heat in Miami.

1068
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 5: This game, Bay I got, I got, I got Golden State.

1069
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: I think said step has been on a tear like

1070
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 5: you do all that if you get a couple days rest.

1071
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 5: I don't know how much time is between.

1072
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: He does.

1073
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: He's not a nightlight, guys. I ain't got worried about

1074
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: him going out. I ain't gotta worry about Steph, so

1075
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: he's leading the team.

1076
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be all right, and said also Miami,

1077
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 5: Tyler Harrobin out band been out. They've been kind of

1078
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 5: down some bodies. So I'm gonna go with Golden State

1079
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 5: on that.

1080
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: I got got me too clean suite for Golden State

1081
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: Raptors at the Sixers. The Raptors are on an ups

1082
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: we've been playing now, they've been playing. They're playing well.

1083
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: They play together, they play fast, they seem to like

1084
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: each other. It's pretty cool to watch. I was I

1085
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: was down on them to start the season, so I'm

1086
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: happy to see that I was wrong about that. They're

1087
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: playing real quality basketball. So I'm definitely taking the Raptors

1088
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: on the road against the Sixers, who seemed to be

1089
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: coming back a little bit down at from the very

1090
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: quick start that they had.

1091
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they dropped that one game Detroit was bad, but

1092
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: I think they bounced back.

1093
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: This is a tough matchup.

1094
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Philly, Philly.

1095
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: I like the Raptors in this one. I don't know

1096
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 4: if they can match up. They got big wins.

1097
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 2: Team, big physical team, and a lot of smaller guards. Last,

1098
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: but not least, Rockets at the Calves. These again, this

1099
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: seems to be two teams opposite directions. Rockets are on

1100
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: the up, up up up, and the Calves seem to

1101
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: be I don't know what's going on.

1102
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 3: They won a couple, they got themselves plateau.

1103
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so give me the Rockets on the road man.

1104
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: They're continuing there, just a pace as just like one

1105
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 2: of the teams is going to have to be dealt

1106
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: with this season.

1107
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with Houston as well.

1108
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: We'll go Calves at home from the home team. They

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Speaker 4: played well at home.

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Speaker 3: All right, well Houston.

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Speaker 1: There you have it. Those are our predictions. That was

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