WEBVTT - #311 Packers Unscripted: West Coast watch 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:20.560 Hi, everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.279 I am Mike Spofford, joined by the one and only 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.400 West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.520 at lambeau Field and West. Preseason Game number three is 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:34.440 almost upon us Packers at Raiders in Oakland on Friday night. Now, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.239 it's gonna be a late one if you're not on 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:41.520 the West coast nine thirty Wisconsin time kickoff. So while 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.640 I am not looking forward to the essentially red eye 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.360 flight we'll be taking back after the game, I am 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.680 looking forward to seeing a few players maybe work their 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:56.400 way into preseason action here for the Packers in preseason 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.680 Game number three. Who do you want to start with? Well, honestly, Mike, 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.680 I would have liked to have started with my plans 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.800 for this trip and how I'm going to be able 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.480 to make sure I get the most sleep out of it. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.280 I'll be bringing my neck pillow, I'll be bringing everything 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.160 that I need to do to be comfortable on the 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.839 flight home so that I can have a decent Saturday. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.440 But if you want to talk specifically about the game, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.000 I guess we can do that too. For me, I 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.800 think it really starts with Aaron Jones. Now, Mike McCarthy 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.399 wouldn't commit to him playing when he when he did 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.399 his Wednesday morning news conference, So I guess we'll have 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.720 to see whether or not he goes. But let's say 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.880 he does and he does get those reps after working 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.960 some team stuff this week, I think this could be 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.759 a really good opportunity for him. And if it isn't 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.200 this week, maybe it's next week. But he's coming back 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.720 from that hamstring injury. We know he's not gonna be 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.840 playing in the first two games of the regular season. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.200 For me, and I'm not a guy that gets all 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.880 up at the about preseason reps and snaps, but I 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.720 just think for a guy like him, especially when not 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:50.920 knowing what the reps are gonna be like, you know, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:52.960 through the first months of the season, with having Time 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.160 Montgomery and Jamal Williams, I just think this is a 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.400 really valuable time for him. And I think one of 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.320 the things you pointed out to in some of the 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.280 analysis we've done this week is whether it's Aaron Jones, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.920 whether it is Time Montgomery, the reps the Packers, and 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.640 the snaps the Packers are gonna get with this run 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.079 game are going to be really important because a lot 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.840 of people they just fixate on what the stats look like. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.200 And it happens every single year with the running game 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.960 in every single NFL city. Unless the guy's burning everybody 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.280 for an eighty five yard touchdown, people are wondering what's 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.720 going on. But Mike McCarthy mentioned it. They're seeing things 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.200 they like on film. It's about correcting some of the 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.720 things that could potentially break those plays out a little bit. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.760 More so whether or not it's Jones, whether or not 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.120 it's Montgomery, could be La Shaun Daniels, the the undrafted 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.040 rookie that just came in, or undrafted free agent that 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.880 just came in. You want to see those guys stepping up. Yeah, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.359 we may see the first action of Lashun Daniels from Iowa. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.760 Brunson Hill the other running back the Packers have brought 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.200 in as they've dealt with some injuries and other situations. Here, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.679 Jamal Williams, we should point out he is already back 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.160 on the practice field. He made it back this week 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.160 very quickly from that ankle injury, So hats off to 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.840 him in that respect. Another guy, I've got my eye 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.040 and West and I think a lot of Packers fans do, 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.600 and not trying to put too much pressure on him 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.000 because he's certainly, you know, putting plenty of pressure on himself. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.919 But rookie receiver Jamon More, this is a guy who's 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.320 had some chances to make some big plays in the 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.000 first couple of preseason games. It hasn't gone his way. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.399 We know that when he was drafted in the fourth 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.360 round out of Missouri, the knock on him was that 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.680 his hands weren't consistent. He did have some issues with 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.920 drop passes in college. We have seen that he hasn't 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.800 necessarily been able to shake that reputation. But it doesn't 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.280 sound like he's, you know, that this is some sort 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.000 of crisis of confidence or anything. He you know, and 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.120 Aaron Rodgers even said at his locker the other day, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.360 sometimes all it takes is one big play for a 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.520 young receiver to just relax, find the mojo, get into 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.240 the get into the rhythm, get into the groove. Jamon 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.440 Moore is a guy who's gonna have a chance, I think, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.160 to do that on Friday night in Oakland. Hopefully he 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.560 takes advantage of it. Here's what I love about Jamon Moore. Uh, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.640 he did. He didn't go into a shell about this. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.720 He sat at his locker and every time somebody goes 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.920 up to him and asked for an interview, he accepts it, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.360 and he takes responsibility for what's happened. He's not living 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.560 in his own micro climate and trying to just, you know, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.960 put together some mental idea or excuse for what's happened. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.479 He knows he's not catching the football, and he's trying 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.279 to do something about it. The thing I was most 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.520 impressed with Mike I was going down to practice on Tuesday. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.520 Before I even got down to the field, I could 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.400 already see the jugs machine running and Jamon Moore doing 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.120 the man hands drill directly in front of it. He 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.320 was doing that before practice. He did it for I 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.440 think fifteen minutes after practice or something like that. This 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.080 is a young man that understands the urgency. He knows 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.320 there's two weeks left to prove what he has and 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.160 he wants to tell the Green Bay Packers that he's 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.000 a fourth round pick and they made the right decision 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.479 taking him in the fourth round. He has all the 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.680 ability in the world. Truman Williams said it when where 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.600 it was an immedia scrum with him earlier this week. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.640 You can tell looking at him on the field what 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.239 this guy possesses, but that's not nearly what it takes 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.560 to succeed in the NFL. There's a mental perspective to it, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.240 and for Jamon Moore, he's trying to work past it 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.839 right now. Yeah, this could be the game of opportunity 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.440 for him really, because we don't know what exactly the 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.719 playing time plan is going to be at this point, 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.080 but based on how the practice reps have been divvied 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.000 up this week, it doesn't look like Aaron Rodgers and 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.000 some of the starting guys on offense, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.960 it doesn't look like they will play much, if at 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.560 all in Oakland. And then you add on top of that, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.599 Jake Kumara has been injured injured his shoulder in the 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.359 Pittsburgh games. So that's another young receiver who looks like 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.719 he'll be out of the mix for Friday night. You know, 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.800 Jamon Moore mvs. Eq St. Brown, these guys, this is 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.239 going to be a big opportunity for them to shine. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.200 And you know that that Jamon Moore knows that knows 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.680 that the spotlight will be pretty bright on him Friday night. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.120 I think the Packers offensive coach have done an exemplary 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.520 job of giving all those guys opportunities. I don't know 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.719 off the top of my head what their repcounts look like, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.159 what their snaps have been in preseason games, but you 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.039 and I have watched enough of these practices and seen 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.080 the two preseason game to understand that there's been a 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.280 pretty good rotation going there. D'Angelo Yancey, the fifth round 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.720 pick out of Purdue, also factoring into that, So I 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.560 would imagine you're gonna see much of the same. And 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.440 with Davante Adams and in Randall Cobb, you know who 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:13.880 knows how much they're gonna play in this game. If 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.440 Jake Kumerou isn't out there, a lot of it's gonna 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.080 be those three young receivers. And we're at a point 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.240 right now where this is that final stretch. There's one 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.760 practice public practice, still open to the media. There's two 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.960 preseason games. If you're Jaymon Moore, if you're e q 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.599 st Brown, Marquess, Veldo Scantling, this is where you've got 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.640 to really sort of have that final burst towards the 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.680 finish line and showing that I'm worthy of a spot 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.520 on that fifty three man roster. And if you want 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.760 to keep your eye offensively on anybody in the trenches, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.080 so to speak, as we head to Oakland for preseason 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.400 game number three, one guy to watch, I'll give you 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.320 a couple names, but one guy to watch for sure 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.800 is Byron Bell. The veteran that the Packers brought in. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.880 Started at multiple positions in his career with Tennessee Carolina Dallas. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.479 He's been played both guard and tackle. He's been the 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.279 guy phil in at right guard for Justin McCrae while 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.839 McCrae recovers from the calf injury from the Pittsburgh game. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.320 And this is the guy who's making making a statement 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.960 that he belongs on this roster. The Packers like the 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.480 versatility aspect of it that they could plug him in 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.800 at guard or tackle if needed. And when you get 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.760 thrown in with that number one unit when a starter 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.640 goes down, that says something that the coaches want to 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.840 take a really really close look at you. Yeah, And 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.040 Mike McCarthy mentioned it that they've been trying to do 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.640 everything they can, whether it's you know, Lucas Patrick working 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.320 at center. That was the other guy I was going 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.000 to mention because because the Packers are trying to find 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.040 exactly who is going to be the backup center if 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.480 something were to happen to to Corey Lindsley, And from 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.920 what we've seen of the practice reps, Lucas Patrick is 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.400 the guy who's getting a lot of opportunities. Yeah, and 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.760 just like Dylan Day who is mostly taking those number 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.680 two center reps throughout camp, he's getting some work now 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.720 at the guard positions. So we saw Adam Pankey a 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.960 couple of weeks ago when Patrick was working through some stuff, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.520 he got some work with the first team offense. So 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.040 Packers have a big decision to make their behind that 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.239 starting five. So you know, you want to find guys, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.840 as as McCarthy said, you want to find a guy 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.920 that can play you know, two or three guys that 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.400 can play the center position if they're called upon. But 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.640 then you also look at a guy like Bell who 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.240 has for so long in this league been able to 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.840 show that he can step in at guard if he 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.440 needs to be. I mean obviously last year in case 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.400 of emergency, they threw him in a tackle and when 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.040 Brian Goodakuntz was building this roster this offseason. It meant 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.160 enough to him to get a veteran swing kind of 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.800 tackle in there that they went out and pursued Bell. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.480 So he's in that conversation as well. And and not 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.480 to be honest with you, I've been really impressed with 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.280 what I've seen from him at GUARD. I don't want 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.240 to speak for him, but it just seems like to 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.880 me that is probably his quote unquote strongest positions. So 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.480 to get some work there, get some familiarity there, and 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.520 then also still have that flexibility to the tackle spots, Um, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.040 that goes a long way. And and and it's one of 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:54.720 the reasons why you know, you think he's entering his 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.199 eight year in the league now he's found a way 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.120 to be dependable and really durable throughout the course of 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.880 his career. Yeah, I would agree, Um, before we switch 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.000 gears to the defensive side, West a little bit of 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.160 sponsor business. It is time to enter the Cousin Subs 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.560 Best Seats in the House promotion. You and a guest 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.520 could win a chance to kick back on the fifty 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.120 yard line in style. Two pairs of lucky Packers fans 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.760 will be chosen prior to each home game for this 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.720 v I P experience, enter daily now through December six 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.280 by completing the entry form and submitting. For complete rules 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.640 and eligibility, go to Packers dot com slash best Seats 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.520 Cousins subs. We believe in better okay defensive side of 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.559 the ball. Here for preseason game number three in Oakland, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.079 Who are you gonna have your eye on your Alexander 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.040 is the number one guy that I'm gonna be looking 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.240 at because I think everything checked out. It seems to 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.360 have checked out okay with the groin injury that made 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.800 him sit out of that opener against Tennessee. He only 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.040 played ten snaps last week, but it was all exclusively 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.720 as the Nicol slack cornerback. I think Alexander much like 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.320 Josh Jackson, although their different body types gives you that 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.800 inside outside versatility. But to me, it almost reminds me 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.720 a little bit of what they did with Casey Hayward, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.800 where the starting point for him is going to be 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.080 in the slot. We've seen the playmaking, we've seen the confidence, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.439 and you know, seeing that in a preseason setting is 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.240 gonna be really important. Kenn and King mentioned it last week. Too, 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.240 when he was asked about his shoulder injury and talking 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.120 about how valuable this time is because when you're a rookie, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.079 you don't really have the luxury of just being able 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.360 to sit out of this stuff. You gotta get in there, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.880 You've gotta get a feel for it. Josh Jackson has 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.800 done that in the first two preseason games. I think 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.120 he's much better for it. I think he's seeing that. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.560 Not saying that this game isn't as fast as it 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.240 wasn't the Big Ten. You know that it's fast and 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.360 it wasn't the Big Ten. But I think he's seen 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.040 that his game can translate and that confidence this time 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.959 of the year. Not saying that Jaire Alexander needs a 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.360 boost of that at all, but it can go a 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.280 long way for a young player, because Mike is we've 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.800 talked about so many times. With all these six you know, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.200 defensive backpackages now and guys moving in different spots at 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.680 any given time, you have to be ready to play 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.640 from the go. And I think a game like this 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.080 and maybe potentially next week in Kansas City can go 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.200 a long way for Jaire Alexander. Yeah. Well, the game 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.840 at this level definitely is faster than what any of 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.560 these players experience in college, and you're right, there is 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.520 there's that transition from a confident standpoint that Okay, I 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.640 still understand everything that's going on, my skill set, my 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.800 athleticism translates to this level. And once players mentally can 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.760 can feel confident that even though they're playing a faster game, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.160 they can still play it and play it well, then 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.520 that's when you that's when you start to see the 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.520 big strides really being taken. You mentioned Kevin King a 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.760 minute ago. That's another guy I'm going to be watching 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.320 to see if he gets some preseason action for the 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.960 first time because he's been limited well he's coming off 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.480 of obviously the shoulder surgery from the off season, then 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.040 a little bit of an issue with his other shoulder. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.080 But in terms of getting ready for the regular season, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.040 I wouldn't mind seeing Kevin King maybe get some snaps 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.560 against a Jordy Nelson or a Mariti Cooper. You know, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.120 these number one receivers for the Oakland Raiders. This is 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.640 an offense that has some pretty high hopes. Let's not 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.600 you know, let's not mistake this. And with them playing 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:03.040 their third preseason game at home, they might be showcasing 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.040 their starters a little bit more say than than perhaps 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.760 the Packers will will have to see how that shakes out. 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.400 But um, but some action for guys like Kevin King 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.920 j or Alexander could definitely be benefits. And it goes 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.880 back to something I remember a conversation I had with 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.760 Kevin King right at the beginning of camp. It was 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.160 even before the shoulder, the other shoulder became an issue 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.200 for him, in him saying that it was he really 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.720 just wanted to get in a game and feel like 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.000 a player again, feel like, you know what, I can 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.360 push at the line of scrimmage, I can dive for 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.560 a tackle and there's not gonna be any repercussions for 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.000 that Physically, Mentally, he wants to get to that place again. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.960 And you know, and he hasn't spoken too much about 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.840 the shoulder injury, so it's hard to say, you know, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.880 how much he could be available these next two weeks 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.199 or what it's going to be like, you know, with 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.920 him trying to play through that. But that being said, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.360 I I just think the ability to potentially get on 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.559 the field for a guy that's as young as he is, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.280 I think we forget how young he was entering this league. Uh, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.040 this is this is a golden opportunity. He's a year 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.160 older than these these rookies that came in now. But 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:00.960 I still very much to view them in the same 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.800 light in terms of trying to, you know, get that 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.679 experience and having a guy like Tremont Williams and Devon 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.319 House around too, that goes a long way for them 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.800 trying to hone those skills. Yeah. Well, we mentioned a 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.160 couple of guys to watch in the trenches on offense. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.800 I think if you're going to watch somebody in the 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.320 trenches on defense in this game, I'll throughout a name 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.120 for you, and that's Dean Lowry. Now. And there's a 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.880 lot of excitement, and rightfully so, as to when the 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.760 Packers are going to have Mike Daniels, Kenney Clark, Mohammed 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.480 Wilkerson all on the field together on that defensive line. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.720 I think we're all very excited to see exactly how 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.200 that will play out when the games are for real. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.720 But I mentioned this, I believe it was last week 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.520 in our inside or in Box column. If you want 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.160 a classic example right now on the Green Bay Packers 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.400 of a guy who's not a superstar, not even maybe 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.160 necessarily listed as a starter, but a classic example of 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.080 a draft and developed guy in this program. Dean Lowry 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.160 is one of those guys right now, because you and 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.640 I have been watching him in practice. To me having 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.280 seen him when he first came in as a fourth 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.280 round draft pick out of Northwestern, not saying he was small, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.560 he's a big guy, and not saying that he had 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.200 strength issues, but he just looks so much stronger out 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.600 there now, whether it's in the one on one pass rush, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.720 whether it's in the run defense type of drills, when 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.960 when you know when you've got to maybe take on 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.959 a double team block or or just you know, two gap, 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.920 be ready to go to one side or the other 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.000 against that offensive lineman. I really like what I've seen 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.440 from Lowry. I think he's potentially potentially going to play 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.040 a key role on this defense as a rotational guy 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:31.520 who can get in there and make a play once 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.440 in a He really can, Mike and I, you and 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.160 I have watched the one on ones. I mean, he 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.800 is a bull, and it's he's he's tough to handle. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.160 And it's not that it's that much different or that 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.440 much striking. It's not He hasn't changed his body or 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.280 anything like that. He's been a he's been a big 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.240 guy since he arrived. But particularly with that three technique 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.120 is what I've really been impressed with. And you can 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.360 go back and all my coverage over the years of 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.240 the Green Bay Packers, going back to two thousand twelve, 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.760 I was always clamoring or a six ft six defensive end, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.920 defensive lineman in this defense. They never really truly had that. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.120 They got by, you know, Johnny Jolly came back. They 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.120 had some guys, you know, Josh Boyd, that were able 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.800 to hold down those five techniques when asked, I think 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.880 there's just really something interesting about having a guy like 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.560 him that is your traditional I think you could refer 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.200 to as a five technique base end, but also has 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.800 that ability to be able to get pass rush from 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:28.040 the inside. He's exactly where the direction the Packers wanted 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.560 to take this defense. He exemplifies that. And I think 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.240 when you go back to that six teen draft, that 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.760 was such a statement for them to take Kenny Clark 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.960 in the first round, in them to take Dean Lowry 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.040 in the fourth round, because they're both completely different football players. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:42.960 But at the end of the day. I think they 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.360 have the leverage you're looking for, and to throw them 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.880 into the mix now with Mike Daniels and then bringing 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.240 in Mohamed Wilkerson montrevious. Adams is at a really strong camp. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.120 There's a reason to be excited about that defensive line, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.880 and it goes past what I think you would refer 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.080 to as your quote unquote starters. Yeah, I would agree. Well, 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.120 you know what, gotta call it a wrap on this 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.480 edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.600 our coverage of the team and of Friday nights preseason 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.440 game in Oakland on Packers dot com. On Twitter, He's 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.480 at west Hod I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.000 the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See you 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:15.480 next time.