1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by the one and only 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. Preseason Game number three is 5 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: almost upon us Packers at Raiders in Oakland on Friday night. Now, 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a late one if you're not on 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: the West coast nine thirty Wisconsin time kickoff. So while 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: I am not looking forward to the essentially red eye 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: flight we'll be taking back after the game, I am 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing a few players maybe work their 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: way into preseason action here for the Packers in preseason 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Game number three. Who do you want to start with? Well, honestly, Mike, 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have started with my plans 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: for this trip and how I'm going to be able 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: to make sure I get the most sleep out of it. 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing my neck pillow, I'll be bringing everything 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: that I need to do to be comfortable on the 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: flight home so that I can have a decent Saturday. 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: But if you want to talk specifically about the game, 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I guess we can do that too. For me, I 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: think it really starts with Aaron Jones. Now, Mike McCarthy 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't commit to him playing when he when he did 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: his Wednesday morning news conference, So I guess we'll have 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: to see whether or not he goes. But let's say 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: he does and he does get those reps after working 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: some team stuff this week, I think this could be 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: a really good opportunity for him. And if it isn't 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: this week, maybe it's next week. But he's coming back 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: from that hamstring injury. We know he's not gonna be 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: playing in the first two games of the regular season. 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: For me, and I'm not a guy that gets all 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: up at the about preseason reps and snaps, but I 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: just think for a guy like him, especially when not 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: knowing what the reps are gonna be like, you know, 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: through the first months of the season, with having Time 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Montgomery and Jamal Williams, I just think this is a 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: really valuable time for him. And I think one of 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the things you pointed out to in some of the 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: analysis we've done this week is whether it's Aaron Jones, 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: whether it is Time Montgomery, the reps the Packers, and 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: the snaps the Packers are gonna get with this run 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: game are going to be really important because a lot 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: of people they just fixate on what the stats look like. 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: And it happens every single year with the running game 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: in every single NFL city. Unless the guy's burning everybody 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: for an eighty five yard touchdown, people are wondering what's 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: going on. But Mike McCarthy mentioned it. They're seeing things 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: they like on film. It's about correcting some of the 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: things that could potentially break those plays out a little bit. 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: More so whether or not it's Jones, whether or not 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: it's Montgomery, could be La Shaun Daniels, the the undrafted 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: rookie that just came in, or undrafted free agent that 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: just came in. You want to see those guys stepping up. Yeah, 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: we may see the first action of Lashun Daniels from Iowa. 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Brunson Hill the other running back the Packers have brought 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: in as they've dealt with some injuries and other situations. Here, 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, we should point out he is already back 58 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: on the practice field. He made it back this week 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: very quickly from that ankle injury, So hats off to 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: him in that respect. Another guy, I've got my eye 61 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: and West and I think a lot of Packers fans do, 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: and not trying to put too much pressure on him 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: because he's certainly, you know, putting plenty of pressure on himself. 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: But rookie receiver Jamon More, this is a guy who's 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: had some chances to make some big plays in the 66 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: first couple of preseason games. It hasn't gone his way. 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: We know that when he was drafted in the fourth 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: round out of Missouri, the knock on him was that 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: his hands weren't consistent. He did have some issues with 70 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: drop passes in college. We have seen that he hasn't 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: necessarily been able to shake that reputation. But it doesn't 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: sound like he's, you know, that this is some sort 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: of crisis of confidence or anything. He you know, and 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers even said at his locker the other day, 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: sometimes all it takes is one big play for a 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: young receiver to just relax, find the mojo, get into 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: the get into the rhythm, get into the groove. Jamon 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Moore is a guy who's gonna have a chance, I think, 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: to do that on Friday night in Oakland. Hopefully he 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: takes advantage of it. Here's what I love about Jamon Moore. Uh, 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: he did. He didn't go into a shell about this. 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: He sat at his locker and every time somebody goes 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: up to him and asked for an interview, he accepts it, 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: and he takes responsibility for what's happened. He's not living 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: in his own micro climate and trying to just, you know, 86 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: put together some mental idea or excuse for what's happened. 87 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: He knows he's not catching the football, and he's trying 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: to do something about it. The thing I was most 89 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: impressed with Mike I was going down to practice on Tuesday. 90 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Before I even got down to the field, I could 91 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: already see the jugs machine running and Jamon Moore doing 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: the man hands drill directly in front of it. He 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: was doing that before practice. He did it for I 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: think fifteen minutes after practice or something like that. This 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: is a young man that understands the urgency. He knows 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: there's two weeks left to prove what he has and 97 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: he wants to tell the Green Bay Packers that he's 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick and they made the right decision 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: taking him in the fourth round. He has all the 100 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: ability in the world. Truman Williams said it when where 101 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: it was an immedia scrum with him earlier this week. 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: You can tell looking at him on the field what 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: this guy possesses, but that's not nearly what it takes 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: to succeed in the NFL. There's a mental perspective to it, 105 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: and for Jamon Moore, he's trying to work past it 106 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, this could be the game of opportunity 107 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: for him really, because we don't know what exactly the 108 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: playing time plan is going to be at this point, 109 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: but based on how the practice reps have been divvied 110 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: up this week, it doesn't look like Aaron Rodgers and 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: some of the starting guys on offense, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, 112 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like they will play much, if at 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: all in Oakland. And then you add on top of that, 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: Jake Kumara has been injured injured his shoulder in the 115 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh games. So that's another young receiver who looks like 116 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: he'll be out of the mix for Friday night. You know, 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Jamon Moore mvs. Eq St. Brown, these guys, this is 118 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: going to be a big opportunity for them to shine. 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: And you know that that Jamon Moore knows that knows 120 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: that the spotlight will be pretty bright on him Friday night. 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I think the Packers offensive coach have done an exemplary 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: job of giving all those guys opportunities. I don't know 123 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: off the top of my head what their repcounts look like, 124 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: what their snaps have been in preseason games, but you 125 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: and I have watched enough of these practices and seen 126 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the two preseason game to understand that there's been a 127 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: pretty good rotation going there. D'Angelo Yancey, the fifth round 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: pick out of Purdue, also factoring into that, So I 129 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: would imagine you're gonna see much of the same. And 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: with Davante Adams and in Randall Cobb, you know who 131 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: knows how much they're gonna play in this game. If 132 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: Jake Kumerou isn't out there, a lot of it's gonna 133 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: be those three young receivers. And we're at a point 134 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: right now where this is that final stretch. There's one 135 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: practice public practice, still open to the media. There's two 136 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: preseason games. If you're Jaymon Moore, if you're e q 137 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: st Brown, Marquess, Veldo Scantling, this is where you've got 138 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: to really sort of have that final burst towards the 139 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: finish line and showing that I'm worthy of a spot 140 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: on that fifty three man roster. And if you want 141 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: to keep your eye offensively on anybody in the trenches, 142 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: so to speak, as we head to Oakland for preseason 143 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: game number three, one guy to watch, I'll give you 144 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: a couple names, but one guy to watch for sure 145 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: is Byron Bell. The veteran that the Packers brought in. 146 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Started at multiple positions in his career with Tennessee Carolina Dallas. 147 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: He's been played both guard and tackle. He's been the 148 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: guy phil in at right guard for Justin McCrae while 149 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: McCrae recovers from the calf injury from the Pittsburgh game. 150 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: And this is the guy who's making making a statement 151 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: that he belongs on this roster. The Packers like the 152 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: versatility aspect of it that they could plug him in 153 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: at guard or tackle if needed. And when you get 154 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: thrown in with that number one unit when a starter 155 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: goes down, that says something that the coaches want to 156 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: take a really really close look at you. Yeah, And 157 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy mentioned it that they've been trying to do 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: everything they can, whether it's you know, Lucas Patrick working 159 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: at center. That was the other guy I was going 160 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: to mention because because the Packers are trying to find 161 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: exactly who is going to be the backup center if 162 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: something were to happen to to Corey Lindsley, And from 163 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: what we've seen of the practice reps, Lucas Patrick is 164 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the guy who's getting a lot of opportunities. Yeah, and 165 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: just like Dylan Day who is mostly taking those number 166 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: two center reps throughout camp, he's getting some work now 167 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: at the guard positions. So we saw Adam Pankey a 168 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when Patrick was working through some stuff, 169 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: he got some work with the first team offense. So 170 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Packers have a big decision to make their behind that 171 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: starting five. So you know, you want to find guys, 172 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: as as McCarthy said, you want to find a guy 173 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: that can play you know, two or three guys that 174 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: can play the center position if they're called upon. But 175 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: then you also look at a guy like Bell who 176 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: has for so long in this league been able to 177 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: show that he can step in at guard if he 178 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: needs to be. I mean obviously last year in case 179 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: of emergency, they threw him in a tackle and when 180 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Brian Goodakuntz was building this roster this offseason. It meant 181 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: enough to him to get a veteran swing kind of 182 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: tackle in there that they went out and pursued Bell. 183 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: So he's in that conversation as well. And and not 184 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I've been really impressed with 185 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: what I've seen from him at GUARD. I don't want 186 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: to speak for him, but it just seems like to 187 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: me that is probably his quote unquote strongest positions. So 188 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: to get some work there, get some familiarity there, and 189 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: then also still have that flexibility to the tackle spots, Um, 190 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: that goes a long way. And and and it's one of 191 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: the reasons why you know, you think he's entering his 192 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: eight year in the league now he's found a way 193 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: to be dependable and really durable throughout the course of 194 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, I would agree, Um, before we switch 195 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: gears to the defensive side, West a little bit of 196 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: sponsor business. It is time to enter the Cousin Subs 197 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: Best Seats in the House promotion. You and a guest 198 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: could win a chance to kick back on the fifty 199 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: yard line in style. 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It seems to 209 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: have checked out okay with the groin injury that made 210 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: him sit out of that opener against Tennessee. He only 211 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: played ten snaps last week, but it was all exclusively 212 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: as the Nicol slack cornerback. I think Alexander much like 213 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, although their different body types gives you that 214 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: inside outside versatility. But to me, it almost reminds me 215 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of what they did with Casey Hayward, 216 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: where the starting point for him is going to be 217 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: in the slot. We've seen the playmaking, we've seen the confidence, 218 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: and you know, seeing that in a preseason setting is 219 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna be really important. Kenn and King mentioned it last week. Too, 220 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: when he was asked about his shoulder injury and talking 221 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: about how valuable this time is because when you're a rookie, 222 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: you don't really have the luxury of just being able 223 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: to sit out of this stuff. You gotta get in there, 224 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: You've gotta get a feel for it. Josh Jackson has 225 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: done that in the first two preseason games. I think 226 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: he's much better for it. I think he's seeing that. 227 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Not saying that this game isn't as fast as it 228 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: wasn't the Big Ten. You know that it's fast and 229 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't the Big Ten. But I think he's seen 230 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: that his game can translate and that confidence this time 231 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: of the year. Not saying that Jaire Alexander needs a 232 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: boost of that at all, but it can go a 233 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: long way for a young player, because Mike is we've 234 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: talked about so many times. With all these six you know, 235 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: defensive backpackages now and guys moving in different spots at 236 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: any given time, you have to be ready to play 237 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: from the go. And I think a game like this 238 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: and maybe potentially next week in Kansas City can go 239 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: a long way for Jaire Alexander. Yeah. Well, the game 240 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: at this level definitely is faster than what any of 241 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: these players experience in college, and you're right, there is 242 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: there's that transition from a confident standpoint that Okay, I 243 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: still understand everything that's going on, my skill set, my 244 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: athleticism translates to this level. And once players mentally can 245 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: can feel confident that even though they're playing a faster game, 246 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: they can still play it and play it well, then 247 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: that's when you that's when you start to see the 248 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: big strides really being taken. You mentioned Kevin King a 249 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: minute ago. That's another guy I'm going to be watching 250 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: to see if he gets some preseason action for the 251 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: first time because he's been limited well he's coming off 252 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: of obviously the shoulder surgery from the off season, then 253 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue with his other shoulder. 254 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: But in terms of getting ready for the regular season, 255 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing Kevin King maybe get some snaps 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: against a Jordy Nelson or a Mariti Cooper. You know, 257 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: these number one receivers for the Oakland Raiders. This is 258 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: an offense that has some pretty high hopes. Let's not 259 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, let's not mistake this. And with them playing 260 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: their third preseason game at home, they might be showcasing 261 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: their starters a little bit more say than than perhaps 262 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the Packers will will have to see how that shakes out. 263 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: But um, but some action for guys like Kevin King 264 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: j or Alexander could definitely be benefits. And it goes 265 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: back to something I remember a conversation I had with 266 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Kevin King right at the beginning of camp. It was 267 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: even before the shoulder, the other shoulder became an issue 268 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: for him, in him saying that it was he really 269 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to get in a game and feel like 270 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: a player again, feel like, you know what, I can 271 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: push at the line of scrimmage, I can dive for 272 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: a tackle and there's not gonna be any repercussions for 273 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: that Physically, Mentally, he wants to get to that place again. 274 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: And you know, and he hasn't spoken too much about 275 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: the shoulder injury, so it's hard to say, you know, 276 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: how much he could be available these next two weeks 277 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: or what it's going to be like, you know, with 278 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: him trying to play through that. But that being said, 279 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: I I just think the ability to potentially get on 280 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: the field for a guy that's as young as he is, 281 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: I think we forget how young he was entering this league. Uh, 282 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: this is this is a golden opportunity. He's a year 283 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: older than these these rookies that came in now. But 284 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: I still very much to view them in the same 285 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: light in terms of trying to, you know, get that 286 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: experience and having a guy like Tremont Williams and Devon 287 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: House around too, that goes a long way for them 288 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: trying to hone those skills. Yeah. Well, we mentioned a 289 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: couple of guys to watch in the trenches on offense. 290 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: I think if you're going to watch somebody in the 291 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: trenches on defense in this game, I'll throughout a name 292 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: for you, and that's Dean Lowry. Now. And there's a 293 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of excitement, and rightfully so, as to when the 294 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Packers are going to have Mike Daniels, Kenney Clark, Mohammed 295 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Wilkerson all on the field together on that defensive line. 296 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I think we're all very excited to see exactly how 297 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: that will play out when the games are for real. 298 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: But I mentioned this, I believe it was last week 299 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: in our inside or in Box column. If you want 300 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: a classic example right now on the Green Bay Packers 301 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: of a guy who's not a superstar, not even maybe 302 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: necessarily listed as a starter, but a classic example of 303 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: a draft and developed guy in this program. Dean Lowry 304 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: is one of those guys right now, because you and 305 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I have been watching him in practice. To me having 306 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: seen him when he first came in as a fourth 307 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: round draft pick out of Northwestern, not saying he was small, 308 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: he's a big guy, and not saying that he had 309 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: strength issues, but he just looks so much stronger out 310 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: there now, whether it's in the one on one pass rush, 311 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: whether it's in the run defense type of drills, when 312 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: when you know when you've got to maybe take on 313 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: a double team block or or just you know, two gap, 314 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: be ready to go to one side or the other 315 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: against that offensive lineman. I really like what I've seen 316 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: from Lowry. I think he's potentially potentially going to play 317 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: a key role on this defense as a rotational guy 318 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: who can get in there and make a play once 319 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: in a He really can, Mike and I, you and 320 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: I have watched the one on ones. I mean, he 321 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: is a bull, and it's he's he's tough to handle. 322 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: And it's not that it's that much different or that 323 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: much striking. It's not He hasn't changed his body or 324 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: anything like that. He's been a he's been a big 325 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: guy since he arrived. But particularly with that three technique 326 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: is what I've really been impressed with. And you can 327 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: go back and all my coverage over the years of 328 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, going back to two thousand twelve, 329 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: I was always clamoring or a six ft six defensive end, 330 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: defensive lineman in this defense. They never really truly had that. 331 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: They got by, you know, Johnny Jolly came back. They 332 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: had some guys, you know, Josh Boyd, that were able 333 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: to hold down those five techniques when asked, I think 334 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: there's just really something interesting about having a guy like 335 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: him that is your traditional I think you could refer 336 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: to as a five technique base end, but also has 337 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: that ability to be able to get pass rush from 338 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: the inside. He's exactly where the direction the Packers wanted 339 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: to take this defense. He exemplifies that. And I think 340 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: when you go back to that six teen draft, that 341 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: was such a statement for them to take Kenny Clark 342 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: in the first round, in them to take Dean Lowry 343 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, because they're both completely different football players. 344 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day. I think they 345 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: have the leverage you're looking for, and to throw them 346 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: into the mix now with Mike Daniels and then bringing 347 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: in Mohamed Wilkerson montrevious. Adams is at a really strong camp. 348 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: There's a reason to be excited about that defensive line, 349 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: and it goes past what I think you would refer 350 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: to as your quote unquote starters. Yeah, I would agree. Well, 351 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: you know what, gotta call it a wrap on this 352 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 353 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team and of Friday nights preseason 354 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: game in Oakland on Packers dot com. On Twitter, He's 355 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: at west Hod I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for 356 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See you 357 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: next time.