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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: We have a fantastic guest to start us off today,

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Speaker 1: President Trump himself is joining us. Mister President, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you being with us.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with how you think it went. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you saw at least some of the Biden press

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Speaker 1: conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway? Because the

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Speaker 1: New York Times and a lot of others seem like

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Speaker 1: they thought it could be the end, but doesn't really

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Speaker 1: seem like the end.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not the end for him, because when you

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Speaker 2: control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants

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Speaker 2: to continue doing this, he's going to be able to

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Speaker 2: do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But

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Speaker 2: I thought the worst part of the press conference was

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Speaker 2: the moment during the day when he introduced Zelenski and

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Speaker 2: he introduced him as Vladimir Putin. That was not good.

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Speaker 2: That was unpardonable. You can't do that. You know, there

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Speaker 2: are things you can do and things you can't do.

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Speaker 2: That was a bad one. So he introduced him as

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Speaker 2: Putin and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,

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Speaker 2: and he corrected as much as you can. You know

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Speaker 2: that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in

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Speaker 2: there with the yips. I think he went into the

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Speaker 2: press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were

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Speaker 2: Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by

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Speaker 2: the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference

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Speaker 2: was going to work out too well because of what

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Speaker 2: happened previous.

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Speaker 3: Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off

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Speaker 3: the show here with us. When you look at the

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Speaker 3: way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him

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Speaker 3: out on June twenty seventh, I mean you're a boxing fan,

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Speaker 3: you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and

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Speaker 3: I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does

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Speaker 3: a part of you feel like you were basically Mike

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Speaker 3: Tyson and he was you know, Spinks, and you knocked

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Speaker 3: him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get

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Speaker 3: back in the ring with you, Because usually when you

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Speaker 3: get knocked out, you don't get antermediate rematch. If it

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Speaker 3: goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you

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Speaker 3: get the rematch you know the story does a party

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Speaker 3: you feel like, Yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked

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Speaker 3: him out. We don't even need a debate again.

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Speaker 2: Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they

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Speaker 2: took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they

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Speaker 2: had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every

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Speaker 2: single element of the debate that they wanted. They even

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Speaker 2: wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,

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Speaker 2: let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.

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Speaker 2: So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,

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Speaker 2: but I start standing up with a better look. The

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Speaker 2: one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted

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Speaker 2: the one on the left, and so he got that,

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Speaker 2: and I guess something that I wanted, which was to

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Speaker 2: go last. But it was a very interesting evening when

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Speaker 2: I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite

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Speaker 2: pale and didn't really look at him very much until

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Speaker 2: he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some

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Speaker 2: He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't

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Speaker 2: belong in the right place. Words were going into the

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Speaker 2: wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being

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Speaker 2: properly placed. And that was the only time I really

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Speaker 2: looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,

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Speaker 2: I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,

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Speaker 2: and that was the beginning of a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.

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Speaker 2: They've given him many chances to make up for it.

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Speaker 2: And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like

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Speaker 2: the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You

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Speaker 2: could tell me better than I would know, but I

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Speaker 2: would say that they haven't been stellar these makeups. Last

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Speaker 2: night was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he

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Speaker 2: made earlier on was bad, but last night was not stellar.

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Speaker 2: He called me as vice president, and he didn't do

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Speaker 2: it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,

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Speaker 2: it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.

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Speaker 2: So he called me, and he made quite a few

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Speaker 2: other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster. Now,

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Speaker 2: the debate was a disaster for him, there's no question

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: President Trump.

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Speaker 2: I assume he looked forward to a second debate were

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Speaker 2: supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh,

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Speaker 2: do the television networks look forward to that one. But

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Speaker 2: because so.

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Speaker 3: You're willing to give him a rematch, because I actually

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Speaker 3: think that's kind of you, given the fact that you

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Speaker 3: knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike Tyson didn't

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Speaker 3: immediately say okay, getting the ring against thinks I kind

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Speaker 3: of feel like he was flat on the you know,

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Speaker 3: on the canvas, looking up at you. But that seems

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Speaker 3: kind Maybe you could knock him out again.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we owe it maybe to the public

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Speaker 2: to do it, you know, I think you have an

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Speaker 2: obligation to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee

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Speaker 2: and you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to

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Speaker 2: an extent, we owe it to the public to do it,

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Speaker 2: if that makes sense. Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: Ismatch, I got Actually, I actually was suggesting yesterday maybe

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Speaker 4: you'll have a first of this that we go in together,

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Speaker 4: because I am cognitively great, perfect and I've had tests.

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Speaker 2: I do it routine, you know, whenever I do. I

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Speaker 2: just did a physical, by the way, and I came

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Speaker 2: out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon or whatever I

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Speaker 2: have to announce but but I suggest that we go

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Speaker 2: in together and do a cognitive test. We'll do cognitive tests.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it together like a team.

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Speaker 3: Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive

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Speaker 3: cognitive test on television with him?

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Speaker 2: I would do whatever they want the test, I do

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Speaker 2: mental acuity tests with him. I would do whatever whatever

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Speaker 2: it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests, they

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Speaker 2: have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I actually

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Speaker 2: feel that anybody running from not age wise. I mean

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to, I deal with people that are much

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Speaker 2: older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,

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Speaker 2: Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to

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Speaker 2: people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Is he the matchup you.

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Speaker 3: Want on President Trump?

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Speaker 1: This is this is important. Is he the matchup you

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Speaker 1: want in terms of who is going to be on

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Speaker 1: the ballot for the Democrats at the top of this fall,

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Speaker 1: because there's reporting that your team is very pleased that

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to stay in. It's not

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Speaker 1: going to be common law and there's not going to

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Speaker 1: be some third option switch at the convention.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic,

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Speaker 2: I think they call it, and it's not a particularly

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Speaker 2: good reporter, not a particularly good magazine, And there was

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Speaker 2: some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed

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Speaker 2: it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?

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Speaker 2: You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am

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Speaker 2: we going? It's going to be somebody else. I think

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Speaker 2: that in many ways she may be easier than him,

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Speaker 2: and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at

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Speaker 2: this stuff over the years. I think in many ways

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Speaker 2: she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think

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Speaker 2: too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.

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Speaker 2: If he gets out, I don't know that he's going

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Speaker 2: to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: it's been the worst president in the history of our country.

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Speaker 2: He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from

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Speaker 2: prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.

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Speaker 2: Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest

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Speaker 2: border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in

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Speaker 2: any country. There's never been a country, there's never been

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Speaker 2: a border like this, but you know, and many other things.

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Speaker 2: I have to go through them. But I always assumed

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Speaker 2: I was going to be running against him. If it were,

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Speaker 2: I think it can only be her, because I think

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Speaker 2: you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: with somebody other than her.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push

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Speaker 3: out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of

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Speaker 3: this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the

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Speaker 3: two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.

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Speaker 3: And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes

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Speaker 3: out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can

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Speaker 3: you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought George Slooney was very disloyal, because whether

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Speaker 2: you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice. Tone.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, a third rate

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Speaker 2: movie actor. He was a television actor who never made

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Speaker 2: really a good movie and so he's sort of third rate.

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Speaker 2: He goes as a movie actor at Clark Gable, he's not.

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Speaker 2: And you know, but I thought it was I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a great actor of disloyalty. And Obama hates

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Speaker 2: Biden and Biden hates Obama. We know that because that's

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Speaker 2: been for a long time. You remember, you guys, remember

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Speaker 2: your perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary,

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Speaker 2: not Biden. And Biden never forgot that they hate each other.

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Speaker 2: You remember when I said that Bush and Marco had

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Speaker 2: a lot of problems together and they said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we get along, we get along. I said, no, you

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Speaker 2: don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I

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Speaker 2: will tell you, But two debates in they started really

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Speaker 2: going at it. I said, I told you. And if

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Speaker 2: you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,

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Speaker 2: the Republican debates, actually among the greatest ever. But I said,

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Speaker 2: I told you when they started going at it, well,

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Speaker 2: these two hate each other. There's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,

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Speaker 2: he really passed in a more prime time period. But

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Speaker 2: I don't want to again, I don't want to stress

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Speaker 2: age because so many people I know, so many people

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Speaker 2: who are far older than Biden, who were so so amazing.

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Speaker 2: I speak with Rupert Murdoch a lot. I think Rupert's

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Speaker 2: ninety four and ninety five, that's right, so he's substantially older.

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Speaker 2: He's like thirteen years older than Biden. He's he's one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent sharp. He's just start to attack President Trump.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,

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Speaker 3: How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?

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Speaker 3: How many finalists would you say you have right now?

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Speaker 2: It's like a highly sophisticated version of The Apprentice? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's still open, though, sir, you're telling us that

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Speaker 2: I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,

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Speaker 1: Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the

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Speaker 3: S Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang

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Speaker 3: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get

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Speaker 3: your podcasts. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton, Joe

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Speaker 3: our interview with Trump. We taped it with him early

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Speaker 3: this morning. If you happen to be in your car

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Speaker 3: and you just heard part of it and you said, hey,

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Speaker 3: I want to hear the whole thing, certainly you can

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Speaker 3: go listen on the podcast, but we're going to play

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Speaker 3: it again in the third hour for those of you

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Speaker 3: who did not hear it, because let's be honest, what

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Speaker 3: is better than hearing from Trump himself and being able

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Speaker 3: to break all of the things that are going on

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Speaker 3: right now down buck. We'll talk about this some when

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Speaker 3: we come back at the top of the second hour,

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Speaker 3: to be certain. But I know you were watching as

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Speaker 3: well as I was the press conference yesterday of Biden.

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Speaker 3: My big takeaway. We're going to play a fun clip

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Speaker 3: for you here from Trump at a moment, but my

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Speaker 3: big takeaway from the Biden press conference yesterday was it

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Speaker 3: was the best thing that could happen for Trump or

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Speaker 3: the Republicans because he wasn't bad enough for everybody to

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Speaker 3: just say, oh, we've got to abandon him completely, but

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Speaker 3: he wasn't good enough to alleviate or the concerns that

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Speaker 3: were arose based on his performance two weeks ago in

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Speaker 3: the debate. Is that kind of your take as well.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think he's in I think that the coup failed,

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Speaker 1: and I think one place where maybe we see it

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Speaker 1: a little differently, Clay, is I still believe that even

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Speaker 1: a very weakened uh, and frail Biden is better than

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris against Donald Trump. And I know that people

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Speaker 1: think that that's not really possible, but I think it

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Speaker 1: is possible.

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Speaker 3: I think that.

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Speaker 1: So I still think Trump's in great shape. I think

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Speaker 1: that Trump is likely to defeat Biden, but I actually

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Speaker 1: think Kamala would have been a more of a wipeout scenario.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think or a red wave scenario for

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Speaker 1: Trump than Biden will end up being.

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Speaker 3: You know, Trump said that he said he thought that

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Speaker 3: Kamalo was easier than Biden. Now there's also strategy there, right,

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Speaker 3: because if you really thought that Biden was the weaker candidate,

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Speaker 3: you want him in, right. So I don't know what

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Speaker 3: he's playing with her some little bit say who you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, like, Trump is the kind of

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Speaker 3: guy who I think would tell you, I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's thinking about what the reaction to.

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Speaker 2: It will be.

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Speaker 1: I truly believe that that he thinks the Kamala would

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Speaker 1: just be.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You get down to things just like name, recognition, familiarity

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Speaker 1: with the person, these things that shouldn't matter that much

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Speaker 1: lot at the national level. And Kamala Harris would have

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Speaker 1: a lot of problems, a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of problems. I think she is higher risk and

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Speaker 3: higher reward. I don't see any way that Biden can

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Speaker 3: win because of his mental and physical issues. I feel

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Speaker 3: like she might galvanize women and minorities in a way

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Speaker 3: that Biden is not. But I also agree with you

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Speaker 3: that she could fall flat on her face. I don't

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Speaker 3: think she's a very skilled campaigner, and certainly Democrats have

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Speaker 3: rejected her before, so it wouldn't stun me if she

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Speaker 3: performed worse than Biden either. I think the way I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking of it is Biden has a lower lower ceiling,

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Speaker 3: but a higher floor. His band of performance is less substantial.

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Speaker 3: She has a higher ceiling, but also a lower floor.

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Speaker 3: If that makes sense. Should we play by the way?

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Speaker 3: This is fun? You know, we talked about the golf challenge,

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Speaker 3: and I wanted to get President Trump breaking down in

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Speaker 3: a little bit more detail his challenge of Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: out on the golf course, which remember it's really an

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Speaker 3: acceptance of a challenge, because Biden himself accepted it the

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Speaker 3: first place. We got some fun audio. Here's Trump analyzing

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Speaker 3: the Joe Biden golf game. Listen, last question for you,

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Speaker 3: mister president. I love the golf challenge. Buck has never

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Speaker 3: watched a golf match on television. He said he would

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Speaker 3: watch you play against Biden. Do you I love the

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Speaker 3: twenty stroke challenge? He challenged you first, what do you

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Speaker 3: think Biden would actually shoot if he had to count

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Speaker 3: every hole? And do you think he would even be

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Speaker 3: able to finish eighteen holes or do you think they

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Speaker 3: would have to stop it and take him off because

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Speaker 3: he's not healthy enough to even finish eighteen holes? How

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Speaker 3: do you think the round would go so without Bragg?

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Speaker 2: And I'm a very good golfer. You know. I've won

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Speaker 2: club championships, many, many, many club championships, and I win

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Speaker 2: them all the time. I still win them. I play

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Speaker 2: just as good now as I did twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's a good sign. That's a good physical and cognitive test,

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Speaker 2: because golf is mental also, right. But I've won many

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Speaker 2: club championships and he cannot win a club championship, nor

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Speaker 2: can he break a hundred. There's no way he breaks

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Speaker 2: a hundred. I've seen his swing. I've never seen him play,

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Speaker 2: but I've seen his swing, and I've spoken to people

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Speaker 2: that are near to him. And he's a terrible golfer,

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Speaker 2: but he's all taught. You have to understand he is.

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Speaker 2: When pilots go to the White House, they say, he says, oh,

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Speaker 2: I used to fly planes. When truckers go to the

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Speaker 2: White House, he said, oh, I drove a truck everything

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Speaker 2: that anybody goes there. Well, he made the challenge to

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Speaker 2: the wrong guy in golf. I mean, I've offered him.

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Speaker 2: I give him twenty strix tennis side, I said, and

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Speaker 2: I'll give him million dollars to his charity. But they

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Speaker 2: turned me down. They said no. Now, if he was

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Speaker 2: a six handicap, which he's not, he says six point

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Speaker 2: two because he wants to be nice and accurate. I

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Speaker 2: don't believe he could break one hundred and fifty. I've

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Speaker 2: watched his swing. I don't believe. And I break seventy

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Speaker 2: a lot, but I shoot in the low seventies and

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Speaker 2: mid seventies. And that's what you have to do. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you play, when you win club championships, you're playing

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Speaker 2: against scratch golfers, and I often beat them. I mean

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Speaker 2: this year I won three, and I don't get to

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Speaker 2: play very much relative to a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 2: They live on the golf course, you know, so you know,

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Speaker 2: he makes a challeng and he's all talk and no action,

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Speaker 2: a nasty guy. And remember he weaponized government against me,

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Speaker 2: and that's a very bad precedent to say, very very bad,

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Speaker 2: very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: What's fifty buck is? I think I've never played golf.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I could shoot a one fifty. I

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Speaker 1: think that I'd probably get there just I'd learn as

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Speaker 1: I go through the holes, so I figure it out.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people out there could play

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Speaker 3: only with a putter and be able to put up

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Speaker 3: a one to fifty, even driving with your putter. But

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Speaker 3: I again, to me, this is where Trump is at

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Speaker 3: his best in this sort of grappling match with Biden.

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Speaker 3: And even early in the interview he talked about this

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Speaker 3: with us that he would have laughed a little bit

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Speaker 3: if Biden had been calling him vice president. Trump sarcastically,

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Speaker 3: Trump with a lead is playing with house money, and

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Speaker 3: he's funny and he's engaging and he's using humor, and

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Speaker 3: Biden really can't respond at all. Even the idea of

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Speaker 3: having a live cognitive test on television Biden yesterday was

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Speaker 3: really bad. I thought, relative to any other president when

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Speaker 3: you analyze his press conference performance, but he's so bad

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Speaker 3: that if he just doesn't fall and he actually can

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Speaker 3: say people's names, they give him a passing grade. It

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Speaker 3: might be the easiest passing grade we've ever given any president.

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Speaker 1: I do think we should at least give some credit

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Speaker 1: where it's due when it comes to Biden, though, I mean, Clay,

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Speaker 1: he has had the full force of the elite Democrat

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Speaker 1: machine in the media. At least say you have to

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Speaker 1: drop out, and he's just like, no, I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, say what you will about Biden.

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Speaker 1: We've said a lot. This guy is so dug in

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Speaker 1: he does not care what they say. And I think

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Speaker 1: that the press conference last night, which we talked to

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Speaker 1: President Trump about was it was enough. I mean, to

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Speaker 1: your point about where the bar is, that was pretty much.

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Speaker 1: If you had told me the press conference last night

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been that different. He did even for where

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Speaker 1: he is. He had a bad night on the debate.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised a few things. He never smiled, he

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Speaker 1: never did his weird whisper thing. He never started angrily shouting. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could say that makes him seem crazy, but crazy

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Speaker 1: and senile are not the same thing, and energy makes

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Speaker 1: it seem less like he's old and decrepit, even if

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Speaker 1: that energy is kind of a burst of rage.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he just he underperformed even for a guy

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Speaker 1: who is suffering from senility in the debate. And I

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Speaker 1: think that yesterday that was pretty standard Biden, and standard

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Speaker 1: Biden isn't going to go. I know everyone saying that,

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Speaker 1: Oh not everyone, but people are saying that there's a

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Speaker 1: negotiation going on to try to get him out. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit too, and with each

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Speaker 1: passing day, man, that negotiation, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: higher the price can go.

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Speaker 3: You and I have talked about as people who have

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Speaker 3: done television, and also, obviously, like all of you watched

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Speaker 3: a lot of television, you can also oftentimes tell whether

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Speaker 3: someone is good at television without even hearing them speak.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that stood out to me so much

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Speaker 3: about the debate was when Biden wasn't speaking, the fact

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Speaker 3: that he just kind of stood there with his mouth open,

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Speaker 3: slack jawed, looking totally lost. I thought he was more

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Speaker 3: was no interruption. By and large, people ask a question

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Speaker 3: and then they just kind of let him give his

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Speaker 3: rambling soliloquies that ended so often with him saying anyway,

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Speaker 3: and with him, like you said, leaning over and whispering

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Speaker 3: thing where he has this desire to try and talk,

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Speaker 3: but he can't because he's always coughing. Like the whole

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Speaker 3: thing was not good. And if we had the standard of, hey,

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Speaker 3: is this a good presidential communicator, he would fail on

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Speaker 3: all counts. He has now lowered the bar to such

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Speaker 3: an extent that I wonder whether he might be able

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Speaker 3: to exceed it. And this is why I asked Trump

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Speaker 3: whether it even makes sense to go out and debate

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Speaker 3: Biden again. I think the expectations are so low for

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Speaker 3: Biden that if he doesn't come out and literally die

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Speaker 3: on the stage, Democrats come September are going to say

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Speaker 3: this was a magisterial performance. This was Lincoln at his

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Speaker 3: best in his prime against Stephen Douglas. Right, that's the standard.

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Speaker 3: Once they know he's the guy, they're going to why

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Speaker 3: and claim that he's great.

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Speaker 1: Let's just establish this as as principal, as a as

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Speaker 1: a guide going forward. The Democrats lied about Biden's state

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Speaker 1: of mind for his whole first term. They will be

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Speaker 1: able to turn around and lie about anything. They've already

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Speaker 1: done it. They've already shown if they can lie about that.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that's too embarrassing, there's nothing that's too outrageous,

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Speaker 1: there's no gas lighting that is too strong. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I see all. This is why I keep

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Speaker 1: telling everybody, you know, we haven't even talked about prices

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Speaker 1: on Buck Island, clay I think we're all full. I

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Speaker 1: think everyone I'm not even gonna I'm not even call

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Speaker 1: it anybody. I had a family member tell me a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago that he was switching to clay Town.

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Speaker 1: And now he found out you're on Buck Island. He's like, why,

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Speaker 1: he said, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, no room. At the end, we'll talk more about this.

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Speaker 3: We do agree Biden ain't going quietly into that good night,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna take a lot of money to get

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Speaker 3: him to pry his cold dead hands off the presidency.

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Speaker 3: What's next we'll discuss here on claim Buck