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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Do But oh so.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was this was this was interesting right

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Speaker 3: that the that Aj Brown continues to be the focal

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Speaker 3: A little bit later on in the in the pod,

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Speaker 3: but it's always interesting to me how I don't have

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Speaker 3: he's got a point, right, He's he's he's kind of

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Speaker 3: I don't like that guy or his political lightnings, but

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Speaker 2: They have stats, they have stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I mean this in all honesty, I had no

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Speaker 3: He's just one of the guys, which is weird because

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Speaker 3: Remember when he said that, Like, I'm not saying I

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Speaker 3: Sports here's Dan Patrick talking about the Eagles teen pervent

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Speaker 5: He doesn't get it.

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Speaker 6: I'm dead serious. Can I The rich he's talking about

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Speaker 6: So this whole notion that he's mad with that, go

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug.

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Speaker 5: The story of the week has been the firing of

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Speaker 5: Nico Harrison and the reasons why it happened, who was

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Speaker 5: involved in the decision, and the reaction of those around

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Speaker 5: the decision. WUCA was asked about it last night. Jason

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Speaker 5: Kidd was asked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 8: We can only hope that we don't have to go

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Speaker 8: through that again because it was a little disrespectful because

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Speaker 8: the guys are playing hard and they're trying to win,

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Speaker 8: and so what that chant during one more shooting free

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Speaker 8: throws is very respectful, but understanding that they got their

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Speaker 8: point across the fans, but we have to move forward.

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Speaker 8: I understanding the healing process for the fans, but these

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Speaker 8: guys are playing hard. Ever since the trade. These guys

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Speaker 5: So over the last three days, I've just watched the

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Speaker 5: way this has been covered and heard the opinions and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: I think the original wave of reaction was bullshit. Why

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Speaker 5: would you fire him?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: Nico Harrison was just following orders. This is bull crap

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Speaker 5: and everything else. But the more I think about it,

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Speaker 5: the more you listen to Jason Kidd right there, this

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Speaker 5: was becoming a distraction for players at home games. The

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Speaker 5: franchise listened to the fans, And I know that's kind

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Speaker 5: of been used as a pejorative this week, like you

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Speaker 5: fire a guy because fans complained. It's like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: if you're showing up to games and your players are

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Speaker 5: of this massive distraction that the ownership and GM caused,

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Speaker 5: then I guess you have to get rid of that

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Speaker 5: that part that might have caused all this distraction and

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Speaker 5: It's like to me, it's I guess that's annoying that

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Speaker 5: like that the actual fans deciding or leading to a

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Speaker 5: decision has been used as a pejorative. But don't shouldn't

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Speaker 5: all businesses listen to their consumers.

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Speaker 3: That's a really hard call. It's a it's actually a

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Speaker 3: massive topic that's worthy of discussion.

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Speaker 2: Let's have it here. We had some on the radio show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but are those same fans, where would those same

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Speaker 3: fans be three years down the road if Luca continued

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Speaker 3: to not get in shape and he was getting hurt

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Speaker 3: and he was making three.

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Speaker 2: Hundred million, That's that's the question.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like you're saving them from saving uh, saving

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Speaker 3: them from themselves. You know that what they like now

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Speaker 3: is Luca, But will they like that in in a

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Speaker 3: couple of years. I don't know again that that that's

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Speaker 3: my my whole thought with it. It's like, I don't

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Speaker 3: really care. I don't think you concern yourself with your

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Speaker 2: And that's my issue with it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, we talked about it on then Wrong. No, No,

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Speaker 5: I mean it just sounds weird that you're saying it.

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Speaker 2: Does It does sound right.

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Speaker 3: It's like the customer is always right, and the customer

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Speaker 3: clearly didn't want the trade. But but there's the contradiction

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Speaker 3: of it, which is, if you listen to the customer, right,

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Speaker 3: what is that? What's the old If you listen to

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Speaker 3: the customer, you're gonna if you listen to fans, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna be one soon enough?

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Speaker 2: Is that? What?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 3: Who was it? Jerry Sloan? Uh, famously said right, if

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Speaker 3: you listen to the fans, you'll be one. Soon, you'll

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Speaker 2: Next to them. So yeah, I think it's a hard one.

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Speaker 2: I think you are right.

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Speaker 3: Customer is technically always right in business, in sports, we

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Speaker 3: haven't done that because fans they don't know what they

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Speaker 2: That's that's the other part to it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think it's That's why this story I

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Speaker 5: think has had legs. It's an interesting one. We haven't

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Speaker 5: thing that annoys me about this next thing is bone

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Speaker 5: Nicks had this to say about listening to social media.

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Speaker 9: We make this entertainment business a lot bigger than what

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Speaker 9: it is, and we forget that. You know, everybody's just

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Speaker 9: out here having a good time, having fun, doing the

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 9: I dot all my social media. I don't even have it,

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Speaker 9: so unless somebody says it to my face, I don't

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Speaker 5: Now that I think that sounds right. I think it

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Speaker 5: sounds like something maybe a leader would say, but I

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Speaker 5: would even I would even say this. I think it

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Speaker 5: would even be more mature to admit that you hear

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Speaker 5: the criticism and you find the constructiveness in it. In

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Speaker 5: other words, I'm not talking about your trolls on Twitter

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Speaker 5: about like voices like Kurt Warner or whoever that are

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Speaker 5: There's constructiveness to take from those. So I think as

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Speaker 5: much as it sounds like it's a cool thing to

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Speaker 5: say I just ignore social media, which I don't think

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Speaker 5: anybody believes, you could also be like, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 5: I hear the constructiveness in this criticism and I'm working

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Speaker 3: Yeah again, I actually agree with you in the messaging.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the that's the end now the if, right,

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Speaker 3: it's the the and not the if. You know you

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Speaker 3: don't say I don't listen to Christy whatever. What you

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Speaker 3: say is what people don't know is I love feedback

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Speaker 3: from people who are in the industry, my coaches, anybody

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Speaker 3: who's played quarterback those ones. Yeah, I listened to you know,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what he's saying. But you're right the

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Speaker 3: it comes across, and I think the way it lands

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Speaker 3: with you tell me if I'm wrong Jason, which is

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be an Ostrich to just stick.

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Speaker 2: His head in the sand.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if you have your head up and you just

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Speaker 3: don't listen to the idiots, there's actually some good stuff

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Speaker 5: Correct. So earlier in the week Tuesday, we brought up

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Speaker 5: it looks like to me and you and I know

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Speaker 5: the business. I think Disney went to the Mannings and said,

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Speaker 5: And Disney, we pay you a lot of money and

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Speaker 5: you're just going to do it. And they followed orders.

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Speaker 5: But the there was criticism afterwards towards Eiger, towards the

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Speaker 5: could have extended some compassion towards the people that are

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Speaker 5: just think it's three days too late. And he kind

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Speaker 3: Yep, totally agree with you. You know, you can't have

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's that's your greater point is like compassion three days

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Speaker 3: later is not compassion that somebody told you you landed

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Speaker 5: So Iger, the bone Knicks comments and the Nico Harrison

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Bob Eiger thing just because

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Speaker 3: it's so fake, so forth, so obvious, and and and

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Speaker 3: you know those positions when you're running a fortune five

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 5: Because we can, all right, So we have a new

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Speaker 5: person in this, uh, Doug Christie, And almost no listeners

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Speaker 5: I saw Doug Christie play college ball at Pepperdine against

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Speaker 5: my cal State Flortes and Titans, So you got that.

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Speaker 5: Doug Christie is pissed off at the way that his kings,

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Speaker 5: he's the head coach of the Sacramona Kings, are representing

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Speaker 2: Put on a jersey, represent it properly.

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Speaker 5: These people need to come into the turnstiles and they

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Speaker 2: Here about the product that they see.

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Speaker 4: Now fucking embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: So good, so good.

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Speaker 3: I think he went on to say, I could do

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Speaker 3: better than I could play hard and I'm fifty five

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Speaker 3: years old. Doug Christy has looked the exact same since

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Speaker 3: he's thirty now. Some of it is he keeps himself

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Speaker 3: in great shait, some of it is he went bald early.

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Speaker 3: But whatever it is, it's amazing. Keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Why can play for you? Because we can't. That's it

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Speaker 3: for the Inner Motives podcast. Check at the radio show

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