1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: with you. Coach Bob back with us. He has been 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: down the road of life changes for his entire lifetime. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: He was a business owner in the financial services industry 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: for twenty years. He then morphed into a self taught scientist, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: philosopher and life coach for the past twenty five years. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Coach Bob continues to develop his process of behavioral change 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: so he and others can manage life effectively. Understanding the 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: science and coaching others and implementing the process. They are 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: his passions that drive his commitment to making this a 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: better world. His website is called real Changecoach dot com. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Linked up for you at Coast to Coast AM dot com. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: And I thought it'd be a good time right now 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: to bring the coach in to talk with us because Bob, 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: first of all, welcome back to the Program's good to 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: have you, Thank you, George, and thank you for having me. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: I am I am picking up that people are so 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: up height lately and they're concerned about everything. They're being 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: bombarded by the media. This presidential situation and the investigations 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: and everything. I think people are on the verge of 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: nervous breakdowns. Bob, do you feel this, No question, George. 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Things are I think more strange now than in my lifetime. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: And I think since we don't really know where it's headed, 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: the uncertainty is probably you know, causing a lot of 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: it too. And you know, most people when they come 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: and I coached them, you know, they're generally dealing with 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: specific issues, and it could be either going on an 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: interview for a new job, or they're running out of money, 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: or their children are having troubles and they don't know 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: what to do, and so there's all these specifics. But 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I think what would be good to share with your 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: listeners is that there's a common fundamental that underlies all 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: the problems that we have, and that is when we 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: have a problem, we generally get filled with either anger 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: and or fear. We're either afraid of what's happening to 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: us or we're angry about it, or sometimes both and 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: sometimes both. And so the question is, and this is 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: the first question I ask people when I coach them, 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: do you really think you're better off sending your anger 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: in fear into this situation or are you better off 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: being in control? Well, obviously being in control is the 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: best way to go, but how many people actually do 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: that when they're faced with that situation? And most people don't. 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: The thing, though, is that they can learn to do it. 46 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: And in kind of a nutshell, here's what's going on 47 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: is ancestors lived in a very very dangerous place. It 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: was basically eat or be eaten. You didn't have a 49 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: chance to google. You had to know instantly is what's 50 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: coming at me dinner or an eye dinner. And that's 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: how we develop this very strong emotional system we have. 52 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: And so the first thing we do when we feel 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: pressure is we either fight or flee. We either approach 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: or avoid. In that initial response, we cannot stop because 55 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: that's who we are. When you're walking into that interview, 56 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: you're afraid. If you're not afraid, you're not human. A 57 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: youngster going into taking his SAT tests for college, he's 58 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: going to be nervous, he's going to be fearful. It's 59 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: only natural. And so what I try to help people 60 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: with origin and this is why if people go to 61 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: the site, they'll see I'm putting on three three one 62 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: hour workshops next week to just to try to share 63 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: with people how they can be in control. And you 64 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: have too what you're doing now too. I think since 65 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the last time we talked, which was about seven years ago, 66 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: you were doing a lot of corporate work and you 67 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: still are, but you're also now doing a lot of 68 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: work for individuals who have some issues, aren't you. That's correct. 69 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: In fact, this whole new program that I'm launching is 70 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: trying to share with as many people, is I can 71 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: you know the way to be in control when it matters, 72 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: because all our anger and fear is going to do 73 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: is make the problems worse. Coach, do you see this 74 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: with road rage? Two? Road rage is probably one of 75 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: the most common that we've probably all felt. I don't 76 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: think there's not a person listening that hasn't gotten awfully 77 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: angry at something has happened, you know, when they're in 78 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: the car. And the reason that is is we call 79 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: it the mix. And so think about it. When you're 80 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: in a tight situation under any kind of pressure. Let's 81 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: say somebody pulls out in front of you. Let's use 82 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: road rage. They pull right out in front of you. 83 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: There's only two things that you have that are going 84 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: to tell you what to do. All the information we 85 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: have comes from one of two places, and that's either 86 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the genetics that were passed on to us by our 87 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: biological parents or the memories and experiences we have from 88 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: this lifetime. Those are the two forms of information we 89 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: have to make decisions. Now, you tell me if my 90 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: definition of road rage is correct. I think road rage 91 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: is caused by a bad or inconsiderate driver who does 92 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: something to someone who's having a lousy moment. Is that possible? 93 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: I think that that context is very, very likely, And 94 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: there's a number of other contexts. Right A guy could 95 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: be driving down the road and he's going to the 96 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: hospital because his wife just had a heart attack, and 97 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: so he's not even thinking right, and you can't blame 98 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: him no, right in the biggest question is is if 99 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: you're driving and all of a sudden you're angry, is 100 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: that going to give you a better chance to not 101 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: get in an accident or is that going to increase 102 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: your odds? I remember Bob a couple of years ago, 103 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: after the show, Tom dan Heiser had a situation and 104 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I had to take him fast to the hospital, And 105 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: it was right after the show, and I am going 106 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: through red lights and thank god there was no traffic. 107 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm going through red lights and everything, and all of 108 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, there's flashing a police light behind me. Whoa, 109 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: And I'm saying, I can't stop. I got to get 110 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: this guy to the emergency room. He's in pain. And 111 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: I rolled down my window. He's got his spotlight on 112 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: me and he's saying, you know, with his speaker, pull over, 113 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: pull over, And I said, sir, it's it's so instant. 114 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I told him who I was, and he went, I 115 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: just got done listening to you. I said, my producer's 116 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: got a problem. He said, follow me. So he is 117 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: racing through red lights with his siren on and I'm 118 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: right behind him, and he is like paving the path 119 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: to get to the hospital. And I got Tommy there 120 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: and he's okay, and everything worked out. But but you're right, 121 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: because during these episodes of extreme gosh, I don't know 122 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: what to say. It is, but people react in different ways. 123 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Right in the ability that humans have, In fact, it 124 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: probably separates us from all other species, and probably why 125 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: we control the planet is that we have the ability. 126 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: Most people refer to it his self awareness, but we 127 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: have the ability to catch ourselves when we're not in control, 128 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: when we're angry and fearful, and we can say, wait 129 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: a minute, this isn't the best thing for me, and 130 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: we can calm ourselves down, kind of like you did 131 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: with the police officer when he pulls up and he 132 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: shows that I'm sure you were pretty calm when the 133 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: situation to him, right, Absolutely, I figured control. I got 134 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: a good police officer. Most of them are, but I 135 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: got a good one, and he understood that he knew 136 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: the show, which I think made things even easier for us. 137 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened had I had 138 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: an officer who was having a bad day who would 139 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: have just said, pull over, I don't care who the 140 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: heck you are. I was going to have to tell 141 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: him called nine one one please, because this guy's he's 142 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: in pain. Right or if you weren't in control, you 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: may not even have made it. You may have gotten 144 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: into accident. That's true. That's true, and so yeah, being 145 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: in control is what we've got to learn, and we've 146 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: got the ability to do it. Why is it that 147 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: some people are in control, Bob and others lose it? Well, 148 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: you're that's a tough question because the kind of the 149 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: jury's kind of out because our brains are so complicated, George, 150 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: to try to figure out why we do what we 151 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: do is almost like fool's gold. So what we do 152 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: know about it is that some people have the ability 153 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: to watch what they're doing while they're doing it. The 154 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: way a great NBA coach told me once what separates 155 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: the superstars from all the other players is that they 156 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: see the game in slow motion. I was just going 157 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: to say that, I, you know, I'm from Detroit, like 158 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: you are right, and you know, I used to read 159 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: stories about Gordy Howe, the great hockey player, or the 160 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: great baseball players, Mickey Mantle, all of them, Bob all 161 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: of them said they had the ability to slow the 162 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: puck down or the baseball that was pitched at them 163 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: in slow motion. All of them said that, yeah, Ted Williams, 164 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: all of them. And so that's basically what gives you 165 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: the ability to be in control is you have to 166 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: learn how to make those tough situations slow down. And 167 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: the way you get it to slow down, and it 168 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: might seem funny, is if in your mind you believe 169 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: that you're better off in control than angry or fearful. 170 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: You have to believe that. If you believe that, then 171 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: when you're in those situations, your brain will remind you, Hey, 172 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: where not where we want to be right now? And 173 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: like any habit, it's something that you have to practice 174 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. And that's why when I do 175 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: my coaching and my programs, they're thirty days long because 176 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: you practice that for thirty straight days of just being 177 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: able to see how you're feeling when you're in tight spots, 178 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: and you're always better off when you calm down, and 179 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: so your brain starts remembering it's much better when I 180 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: calm down. And after you do that over a certain 181 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: period of time, it becomes a habit. I bet you've 182 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: seen some dramatic results after thirty days, haven't you. Oh, 183 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all that's all it takes. But the 184 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: person has to do it for thirty days. It's the 185 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: same like with New Year's resolutions. The reason they don't 186 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: get out of January is because people don't do them 187 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: every day. They have to do it, so the mindset 188 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,359 Speaker 1: has to be there, doesn't it. Yep, yep, it's definitely 189 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: all up happening up in your brain. And you're in. 190 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: All of our brains are plenty powerful, because I mean, 191 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: we've got a hundred billion neurons up on our head 192 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: George firing away all the time and when and they're connected. 193 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: We've got one hundred trillion passageways up there. Yes, I mean, 194 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: we are by far the most sophisticated thing in the 195 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: whole solar system. So we've all got all we need. 196 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: It's being able to train ourselves that when we start 197 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: feeling ourselves getting worked up, that bell goes off on 198 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: our head because we've practiced that says, hey, it's not 199 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: in my best interest to be like this. I'm going 200 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: to slow down, take a deep breath, because that's what's 201 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: going to make me the best I can be. Listen 202 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one 203 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: am Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am dot 204 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: com for more