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Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo was sworn in as Secretary of State on April.

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Speaker 1: He previously served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, Mr Pompeo was serving in his fourth term

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Speaker 1: as a congressman from Kansas fourth District. He served on

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Speaker 1: the House Intelligence Committee, the Energy and Commerce Committees, as

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Speaker 1: well as the House Select Benghazi Committee. Pompeo sat down

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Speaker 1: with David Rubinstein, co founder of the Carlisle Group and

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Speaker 1: host of the Bloomberg television show Peer to Peer Conversations,

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Speaker 1: to discuss his foreign policy priorities, sanctions against Iran, protecting

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Speaker 1: the integrity of America's elections, and his relationship with the president.

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Speaker 1: So um, he became our seventieth of the United States

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State in April of two thou eighteen. Um,

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Speaker 1: you're happy with the job. Is as much as fun

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Speaker 1: as you thought it was going to be every day.

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Speaker 1: So um, what are the most significant foreign policy issues

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Speaker 1: foreign policy area? So you know, I could ask this

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Speaker 1: that's not an original question. I mean, so look, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's important question where it's it's about priorities and

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Speaker 1: you think about the problems that you know. For me,

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Speaker 1: the first the first task when I came in now

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Speaker 1: to sixty and seventeen months ago to the State Department

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Speaker 1: crisis in terms of priorities. Uh, you know, every morning,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I do is read about China. So

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Speaker 1: I take time and talk about all the broad array

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Speaker 1: of issues that present both real opportunity for that estates

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Speaker 1: for a moment. The trade negotiations are going on. You're

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Speaker 1: not the lead in the trade negotiations, think Bob Lightheiser

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Speaker 1: a progress in non trade issues until the trade issue

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Speaker 1: is resolved. Yeah, And and we we've made some um,

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Speaker 1: we've out other places where we've gotten backwards. The Chinese

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Speaker 1: have frankly been very helpful on North Korea, so they

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Speaker 1: respect to respecting our sanctions enforcement on the Islamic Republic

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Speaker 1: you have been in North Korea and you've met with

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Speaker 1: So what type of person is he? Does he have great?

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Speaker 1: Interesting thoughts does he have? Did he speak English? Are

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Speaker 1: He's now repeated that he's prepared to de nuclearized. It's

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Speaker 1: not time to execute. Uh, and I hope that we

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Speaker 1: and there's there's there's nothing in the works, okay, because

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Speaker 1: So look, I'll say this, I've I've talked about this

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Speaker 1: these aren't U S sanctions. These are UN Security Council resolutions.

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Speaker 1: our position, I presume is that if the U. S

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Speaker 1: something militarily. I guess I don't know, But what about

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Speaker 1: So when he was in the United States, were there

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Speaker 1: Are are Are are chosen strategy was to take a

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Speaker 1: They created opportunity for enormous wealth for the kleptocrats in

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Speaker 1: We have taken over the crude oil that was being

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Speaker 1: the Iranians are now enriching uranium at a greater level

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Speaker 1: nature of that relationship will look like. Now, negotiations are

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