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Speaker 1: Content warning.

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Speaker 2: This segment includes discussions of sensitive topics like abuse and

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Speaker 2: adult material. Viewer discussion advised.

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Speaker 3: Well, in a world growing darker by the day, many

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Speaker 3: people believe that they're beyond hope. Well, today's guest shares

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Speaker 3: his powerful journey of redemption after six years in the

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Speaker 3: porn industry, and he will remind us why no one

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Speaker 3: is too far gone.

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Speaker 1: From God's grace.

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Speaker 3: But before we get to that, joining me around the

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Speaker 3: table is April Simons and people are shocked now, but.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a great story. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be great. And I love how you cover every thing

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Speaker 1: here and you don't just cover it, but you give hope.

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Speaker 1: And that's what it's all about. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: love what you said.

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Speaker 4: Anybody.

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Speaker 1: Jesus is not far from anybody. He's only just a

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Speaker 1: prayer way.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Dorothy Newton. We tell some incredible stories on

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Speaker 3: the table. I just think it's it's so courageous and

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Speaker 3: brave for some people to be able to come and

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Speaker 3: tell their story that maybe.

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Speaker 1: Would tell their story. You know what, we all have

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Speaker 1: a story. We all have a story.

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Speaker 5: And if you want to hear great testimonies, if you

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Speaker 5: want to hear the real of the real.

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Speaker 1: This is the place to be right here at this

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Speaker 1: table because you're sitting right here with me. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, because you know what this is how we show

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Speaker 5: God's redeeming love.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I love that. Rachel Anne Brown, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm good and you're The Bible says that we overcome

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Speaker 6: by the word of our Testament. That's right, And so

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Speaker 6: I love that there's so much freedom from what the

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Speaker 6: guests is going to share today. No matter what people

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Speaker 6: are walking through on their journeys, there's going to be

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Speaker 6: something that they can relate to and glean from and

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Speaker 6: understand that there is freedom and their vulnerability and transparency.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Rebecca lam Weiss. You know there are people watching today

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Speaker 3: that are going to be struggling with some of the

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Speaker 3: stuff we're going to talk about today, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's important to shine the light of truth on it.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes the church don't want to talk about some of

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Speaker 3: those things, but we will talk about it here on

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Speaker 3: the table.

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Speaker 7: I commend you for talking about this because this is

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Speaker 7: a really big struggle for so many people, and I

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Speaker 7: think that if you the enemy allows us to feel

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Speaker 7: shame and shame keeps people stuck.

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Speaker 1: In the dark.

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Speaker 7: And what I love about shining the light is they

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Speaker 7: think people are like scared of that light. But it

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Speaker 7: actually says in First Sean that when we walk in

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Speaker 7: the light, we.

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Speaker 4: Have fellowship with God.

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Speaker 7: And so he's there in the light wanting to commune

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Speaker 7: with us. And so it's not a shameful place. It's

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Speaker 7: a place of forgiveness and acceptance and restoration.

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Speaker 1: It's good. Cindy Murdoch, Welcome to the table by Bead.

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Speaker 1: Now a lot of people don't know that Cindy has

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Speaker 1: moved to North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in Texas, by the way, she's going closer

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Speaker 3: to the Grand Care. Yes, but of course you will

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Speaker 3: be coming back to do table talking, which I love.

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Speaker 1: So we're so glad you're here today. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: It's so good to be here. Yeah, I miss you

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Speaker 8: when I'm not here.

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Speaker 1: Just know that she has to say that or should

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Speaker 1: be in trouble.

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Speaker 8: You know I wanted to say too, is that we

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Speaker 8: for years we read through the scriptures and we we

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Speaker 8: hear the good, bad and ugly people in the Bible.

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Speaker 8: Somehow we still, you know, love reading how God redeemed

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Speaker 8: them and so we're just going to hear another story.

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Speaker 8: It just wasn't in the Bible. But great story. Great

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Speaker 3: Well, he's a former porn star turned pastor who's here

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Speaker 3: to share insights from his book Seven Lives That Will

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Speaker 3: Ruin Your Life.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Joshua Broome.

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Speaker 3: Come on in, Joshua, Joshua, you have the best smile,

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Speaker 3: You have the greatest smile. Well, Joshua Broome rose to

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Speaker 3: fame and fortune in the adult film industry, but behind

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Speaker 1: After hitting rock bottom.

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Speaker 3: He cried out to Jesus, and Jesus answered. He joins

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Speaker 3: us today to share his incredible story and testimony. Of

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Speaker 3: course you written the book what my journey from porn started.

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Speaker 3: A preacher taught me about the truth that sets us free.

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Speaker 3: Seven Lives That Will Ruin your Life.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here today.

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Speaker 2: So glad to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know you don't have any residue of that former

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Speaker 1: life on you.

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Speaker 9: I mean a lot of people talk about, well, how

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Speaker 9: do you navigate through talking you know, about your past

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Speaker 9: and things like that. It's like, well, at the end

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Speaker 9: of the day, either you're passing own you or you

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Speaker 9: can own it, and the way you own it, you

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Speaker 9: put it at the foot of the cross.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Well we're going to talk about that, but let's go

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Speaker 3: back to the beginning, your beginning, Yeah, talk about beginning

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Speaker 3: being born, Yes, at the beginning, when Joshua was born.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So I grew up in a small town in South

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Speaker 9: Carolina and my mom was fifteen when she had me.

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Speaker 9: My dad was around the same age, and just being

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Speaker 9: that young, you know, it presents its challenges in itself.

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Speaker 9: But being in a small town, you know, it only

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Speaker 9: takes one person to know one thing about your life,

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Speaker 9: for everybody to know everything about your life, and just

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Speaker 9: followlessness in you know, in our country is somewhat of

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Speaker 9: a normative, but it certainly wasn't a normal thing where

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Speaker 9: I grew up in it being so small that one

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Speaker 9: I would see my dad and he was, you know,

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Speaker 9: he was in my town and often in my presence,

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Speaker 9: but never in my life, and that.

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Speaker 1: That was hard for you to understand growing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, just you think attachment theory is something

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Speaker 9: to be in my life, it must be my fault.

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Speaker 2: And the way that I would fix the.

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Speaker 9: Problem if I was the If I was the problem,

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Speaker 9: maybe I could be the solutions.

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Speaker 1: By being a high achiever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for yeah, And you did everything and you

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Speaker 9: Right, yes, I mean good at academics, good at sports,

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Speaker 6: Did you ever try to connect with him since y'all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there was.

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Speaker 9: I think just the way that like shame compounds over time,

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Speaker 9: I think that there was a few times where we

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Speaker 2: Family, a whole new family.

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Speaker 9: So I never thought it was this like you know,

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Speaker 9: I wasn't chosen and then the choice to not choose

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Speaker 9: But I don't want to speak for him, but I

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Speaker 9: There was a few times early on where he tried

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Speaker 7: Do you think seeking out modeling and acting and kind

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think so, but I think in

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Speaker 9: I mean, like Molly and acting is something that I loved,

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Speaker 2: But I do think.

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Speaker 9: That like a good God given gift or talent like

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Speaker 3: So you ended up moving to Los Angeles and ended

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Speaker 3: But now God was really not in the picture at

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't have a biblical foundation. I had a

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Speaker 1: Was praying for you, like for years you didn't even

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Speaker 1: Are you praying, Grandma? I love you for sure? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but yeah, I get out to LA But yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean I had started modeling and acting when I

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Speaker 9: all over the world. I'd had a lot of success

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Speaker 9: somewhat different in that there was an element of brokenness,

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Speaker 9: like in like it was almost like self induced or

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Speaker 9: self magnified in a way where I was never abused

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Speaker 9: in any way. My mom incredible, Like, sure I didn't

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Speaker 9: have as much as the person, you know, somebody left

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Speaker 9: of my right. I didn't have a dad, but there

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Speaker 9: was no reason for me to say yes to what

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Speaker 9: I said yes to because like to your point, you know,

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Speaker 9: I had a nice home, I had a great management,

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Speaker 9: I had you know.

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Speaker 2: Everything was moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: What happened, Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 9: I was at a club and a girl came up

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Speaker 9: to me and she was a headhunter for the porn industry,

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Speaker 9: meaning that she went out looking for attractive guys and

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Speaker 9: girls are out and about.

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Speaker 3: Well you didn't know that at the time, No, I

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Speaker 3: I had no clue.

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Speaker 9: But actually you know, like because the way that pornography

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Speaker 1: How did you after?

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Speaker 1: They did a movie.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And it's literally there's a scene where so she

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Speaker 9: It just because well, I mean the practicality it blew

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Speaker 9: So my management was like, hey, I got wended that

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Speaker 2: It's like, I think the world of you, but we

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and so I get dropped from my representation. And

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Speaker 1: What did she say?

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Speaker 2: You're so much better than that.

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Speaker 3: So after seven years, almost seven years, thousand films, you

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there was this day where I well,

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Speaker 1: To take your life?

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Speaker 3: I did, And how many porn stars have taken their life?

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Speaker 2: What thirty three?

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Speaker 3: Think about that got you? Because what is the darkness?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So when someone dies in the porn industry, they make

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Speaker 9: Let's see, let's see how much more money we can

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Speaker 9: forty five people that I was friends with, like many

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Speaker 3: It's not about like two people, you know doing a film.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, I mean it's a director of telling two

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Speaker 2: It's for the camera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's get to the best part of your story,

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Speaker 3: and this is the best part for you here as well.

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Speaker 3: You moved to South Carolina yep, and get into training, Jim,

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Speaker 3: You become a trainer.

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Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, so yeah, So I moved back to South Carolina,

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Speaker 9: which was some miraculous by the way that you've been

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Speaker 9: left and got out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I left because I tried to take my life.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I walked into a bank. But I wanted I

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Speaker 9: And the way that I was going to get that

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Speaker 3: Right, and you got paid a lot of money, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you made a million dollars in the porn industry

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I made millions of dollars. But it's like on this,

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Speaker 9: But the problem mainly was like on the memo, is

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Speaker 9: I want you to shake your head, say something antagonistic,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I was shooting for.

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Speaker 9: But she said nothing, and I just wept and wept

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Speaker 2: Can I help you?

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Speaker 1: And she called you by your name.

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Speaker 9: Help him by my name, which I had not heard

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Speaker 9: my name in eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: That one moment of compassion.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like it's Act sixteen, like like the Roman Guards.

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, I blew it. You know, there was an earthquake.

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Speaker 9: And Paul just simply just says, hey, don't harm yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'm right here.

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: But so I go to I go to the Carolinas. I.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so miserable.

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Speaker 9: And then I meet this girl and I was like,

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Speaker 9: No, like withever rejection, I'd become more interested. And she's like, hey,

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Speaker 9: I go for a long run before church.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: That was the key word right there before church.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I was like, I was like, I'll tell

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Speaker 9: you whatever I can get. And I show up and

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Speaker 9: I begin thinking, I'm like, gosh, like she doesn't hang

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Speaker 9: out at the gym. You know, we have like parties

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Speaker 9: and stuff at the gym. You know, we hang out

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Speaker 9: together a lot. She's never there. She's not about that.

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Speaker 9: You know, maybe she.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't know my story. And I share with her.

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Speaker 9: I like, hey, you know, before the run starts, I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 9: there's something I want to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Here's yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: If I'm honest, I was like, if you knew this

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Speaker 9: about me, you wouldn't be here.

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Speaker 2: So let let me protect myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, hey, I'm this kid that his daddy didn't

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Speaker 9: want and because of that, I made a lot of

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Speaker 9: decisions I regret and some of those things they create

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Speaker 9: a lot of shame of my life, and they're on

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Speaker 9: the internet for the world to see.

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Speaker 2: This is who I am.

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Speaker 9: And she was fored Yeah, and then we walk in

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Speaker 9: silence for a little bit and then she just kind

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Speaker 9: of you know, she's an elementary school teacher, so like,

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Speaker 9: you know, like you know when when a teacher or

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Speaker 9: a mom kind of like plants.

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Speaker 2: Their feet and gives you a look.

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Speaker 9: It's like you're about to say something, and she looks

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Speaker 9: at me, she's like, Hey, I don't want to minimize

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Speaker 9: the trauma that you've been through or say that your

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Speaker 9: decisions didn't have consequences, but I need you to know

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Speaker 9: that you're not defined by the worst thing you've ever done,

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Speaker 9: and you won't be defined by the greatest thing you'll

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Speaker 9: ever do, because.

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Speaker 2: You are not the author of you. God is do

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Speaker 2: you know him?

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Speaker 4: And her name is.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I mean she she floored me with that.

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Speaker 9: And then because what she confronted was the opposite of

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Speaker 9: what I believed.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was concerned in darkness with truth.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, because I believe I was. I was one hundred

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Speaker 9: percent of you know, defined by those things. And she

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Speaker 9: invited me to church, and I heard, you know this

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Speaker 9: this sermon on Second Sandwich, chapter nine of like David

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Speaker 9: and mfebl Chef have this interaction and Maffebli Chef saying,

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Speaker 9: you know, in spite of the grace you're offering me,

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm still seeing myself with this dead dog.

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Speaker 9: So meaning that in spite of the grace of God, Like,

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Speaker 9: don't you know who I am, what I've done, what

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Speaker 9: I've been through, what's happened to me? And it's like

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Speaker 9: I try to disqualify nice to Yeah. Yeah, And and

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Speaker 9: then the preacher read Hebrews twelve two and you're talking about,

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Speaker 9: you know, the joy set before Jesus. Is he you know,

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Speaker 9: is he endured the cross, scorning our shame. He's seating

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Speaker 9: at the right hand of God. And what just like

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Speaker 9: popped out to me was that joy. I was like joy, Like,

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Speaker 9: You're the God of the universe, wrapped in flesh, all knowing,

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Speaker 9: all powerful, going to the cross, knowing what's going to happen,

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Speaker 9: knowing what has happened.

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Speaker 2: But you have joy? How why? And then the Holy

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Speaker 2: Spirit reveals to me I love you.

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Speaker 9: Like I go to the cross with joy in my

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Speaker 9: heart because on the other side of it, all who

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Speaker 9: call on my name will be saved.

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Speaker 1: I love you for eternity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that like that leveled me.

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Speaker 1: So did you walk down to the altar?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I fell on my face right in and there.

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Speaker 9: Wow, I'm like I'm on my face like you know,

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Speaker 9: tears and snot you know, it's like, what's wrong with

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Speaker 9: this guy?

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Speaker 1: And Hope is is she right there watching all this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: And then I and I stand up and in the

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Speaker 9: middle of that, like God showed me pictures of him

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Speaker 9: saving my life, like literally standing in front of I mean,

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Speaker 9: there's there's you know, like I shared forty five people

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Speaker 9: that was an industry with dead, Like there was an

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Speaker 9: HIV outbreak when I was in the industry and the

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Speaker 9: person who had HIV which I had worked with, died.

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Speaker 9: I had unprotected sex with someone who had HIV. I

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Speaker 9: should be dead. And God showed me a picture of

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Speaker 9: him standing in front of like in my body, showed

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Speaker 9: me a picture of a virus entering my bloodline and

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Speaker 9: he stopped it and he said, I draw the line

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Speaker 9: right here.

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Speaker 3: WHOA.

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Speaker 9: And it was in that where I'm thinking, like Roman's

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Speaker 9: five A. We're like knowing the worst thing about you,

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Speaker 9: Jesus still went to the cross for you. Why because

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Speaker 9: not because of you, because of who he is? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 9: and him loving me that much in spite of me.

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Speaker 9: So I stand up and you know, I made new

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Speaker 9: and pretty cool that her name.

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Speaker 2: Is Hope And you know that was that was ten

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 1: And finally she went on a day.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we finally went on a date.

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Speaker 1: And then you get married.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we get married.

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Speaker 1: We married boys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nine years.

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Speaker 1: There's a picture right there.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I love the story that you share that when your

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Speaker 1: first child was born.

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Speaker 2: Oh you made me cry.

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Speaker 1: You got to tell that story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so shout out to my wife, Hope.

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Speaker 9: But like she was in the middle of a CrossFit

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Speaker 9: workout when her water broke and then we go, we

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Speaker 9: go to the.

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Speaker 2: Doctor and twenty four hours.

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Speaker 9: Later, he's born, and I'm like, I haven't been asleep.

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Speaker 9: I didn't know what to do, you know. As soon

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Speaker 9: as the water broke, I'm like, what do I need

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Speaker 9: to do? You know, what do I need to you know,

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Speaker 9: boil some water, get a towel, and to deliver the baby?

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Speaker 2: Like what am I going to do?

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Speaker 9: And he's finally born, and the nurses kind of like,

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Speaker 9: you know, putting a little little body on his head

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Speaker 9: and laying him in this, you know, in the like

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Speaker 9: warmer thing, and she's like you can touch him, and

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Speaker 9: I was like, my hand's clean, Like what am I

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Speaker 9: you know, And I'm like, you.

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Speaker 11: Know, and in the middle of that, he grabs my

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Speaker 11: finger and I heard God like in my in my

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Speaker 11: spirit say to me as much love as you have

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Speaker 11: in your heart for him right now, I love you

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Speaker 11: more than that.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And that was your father, Yeah, that was your heavenly father.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And so we named him Cannon to cannon and Hebrew

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Speaker 9: means measuring sex. So that for me, like that was

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Speaker 9: you know, my wife and I were saying like that,

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Speaker 9: and that's a measure of God's grace. It's like when

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Speaker 9: I look at my life, I think about it like God,

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Speaker 9: you know, stands read you do exceedingly, abundanly more we

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Speaker 9: could ever hope, dream or imagine. It's like I didn't

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Speaker 9: have the guts to dream for the life that I have.

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Speaker 9: But it's no surprise. My life is not a surprise

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Speaker 9: to God.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we need to get to talk a

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Speaker 3: lot about your book. But seven lies that will ruin

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Speaker 3: your life. You talk about all of those in the book.

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Speaker 3: You tell your story. What a great book. And you know,

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Speaker 3: as Joshua was sharing the day, I really since there

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Speaker 3: were people watching that you could relate to a story.

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Speaker 3: Not that you were a porn star, but you've done

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Speaker 3: things that you're very shamed of. Sure, and they're like

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Speaker 3: right out in front of you, and God is saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, man looks at the out outside, but I

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Speaker 3: look at the heart. And so many times Joshua's heart

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Speaker 3: was longing for his heavenly father to love him, to

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Speaker 3: reach him, and to understand what Jesus did at Calvary.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the.

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Speaker 3: Lord's saying to you today, is that you need to

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Speaker 3: let go of all those things and just focus on

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Speaker 3: the fact that He loves you today and he's reaching

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Speaker 3: out to you, and all you have to do is

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Speaker 3: just open your heart and receive him, you know, and

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Speaker 3: just say, Jesus, okay, I'm willing to try you, and

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Speaker 3: just call out on his name and just say, forgive me,

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Speaker 3: come into my heart, and your life will be changed forever,

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Speaker 3: just like he changed all of us around the table.

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Speaker 3: And we share these stories because nobody is too far gone,

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Speaker 3: so true and God is ever reaching, and with his

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Speaker 3: grace and his love and his mercy, he loves you

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Speaker 3: so much. And I had heard a preacher say one time,

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Speaker 3: it's a dangerous thing to pull somebody else's sin out

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Speaker 3: from under the blood of Jesus, because the blood of

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Speaker 3: Jesus washes our sin away and that's what He wants

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Speaker 3: to do for you today, and so you can have

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Speaker 3: that freedom and that joy that josh was talking about.

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Speaker 3: You haven't experienced that, and God wants you to experience

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Speaker 3: that joy.

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Speaker 1: And that peace.

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Speaker 3: The Bible says He gives us a peace that passes all.

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Speaker 3: Understand Well, if you're watching the day and unique prayer,

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Speaker 3: you can call the number on your screen. If you

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Speaker 1: Encourage you. Send you the Book of John.

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Speaker 3: It's a great place to start in the Bible if

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Speaker 3: you don't have a Bible, and we'll send that to

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Speaker 3: you absolutely free. You don't want anything. We just want

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Speaker 3: to be a blessing to you. But I do want

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Speaker 3: to thank Joshua for joining us today. Be sure to

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Speaker 3: pick up a copy of his book Seven Lives That

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Speaker 3: Were Ruining Your Life.

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Speaker 3: You can visit him online at Joshua Broome dot m E.

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Speaker 3: And you know there are some of you watching that

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Speaker 3: there are some secrets hidden in the darkness and they're

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Speaker 3: keeping you bound. And so I want to encourage you

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Speaker 3: to talk to someone that you can trust and shine

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Speaker 3: the light of truth.

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Speaker 1: Say hey, I've got this issue.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to stay here, and God can set

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Speaker 3: bye for today. Well have you ever faced something so

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Speaker 3: overwhelming you aren't sure if you could keep standing? Well,

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Speaker 3: today guests have walked through life threatening illness and spiritual battles.

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Speaker 3: Through it all, of course, they discovered the power of

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Speaker 3: God's word and the strength that comes from holding onto

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Speaker 3: his promises. But before we get to that, join me

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Speaker 3: around the table is Cindy Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 12: I am ready, so thrilled with the guests today and

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Speaker 12: I know it will inspire and love hearing testimonies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but one of the guests is musical.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you say cry you're up in the green

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Speaker 3: room and you heard him.

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Speaker 1: And my makeup is.

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Speaker 12: Going to be a wreck because there's such an anointing that.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk about that for sure. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: a candle. The annoying makes a difference, doesn't it.

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Speaker 13: It absolutely does. And today we're going to hear the

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Speaker 13: power of God's word. He's going to set people free

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Speaker 13: and bring healing.

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Speaker 4: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Rachel ANMB Brown, how are you? And ain't good?

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Speaker 3: This is my oldest girl right here, Yes, sitting beside me. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we love guests, but I really love guests that have

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Speaker 3: a legacy and.

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Speaker 1: Been through been through something.

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Speaker 3: I think they have more to teach it to anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: And the Bible says that we overcome by the word

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Speaker 6: of our testimonies, and so whenever we share our stories,

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Speaker 6: it gives people hope that whatever they're going through, that

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Speaker 6: they're going to make it to the other side. And

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Speaker 6: I know people that are watching today are going to

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Speaker 6: be encouraged and inspired by what our guests are sharing.

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Speaker 1: Dorothy Newton, are you ready? I am. I love your

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Speaker 1: bright pink. I turned around and it's like, thank you,

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Speaker 1: I'm so ready.

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Speaker 5: You know, Jonie, I led someone to Christ. They didn't

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Speaker 5: know the word of God, and I said, it's okay.

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Speaker 5: I say, I've never read the Bible, I've never read

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Speaker 5: a scripture. I said it's okay. I say, I want

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Speaker 5: you to listen to this person sing. And I led

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Speaker 5: them to some YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Songs and let them to Christ. Wow.

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Speaker 5: You know. So what I'm saying is that the ministry

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Speaker 5: of God and anointing and what He does through people

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Speaker 5: is truly remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Really, it really is. Well Field Driscoll, Darling, Bishop.

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Speaker 4: Hip Driscoll.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Darling, Bishop Drisco, the dynamic duo is here. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the table.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It's so good to be here.

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Speaker 13: It's always I'm surrounded.

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Speaker 2: That ain't fair?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it wonderful? Course? For sure?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, tests and trials can make us question

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Speaker 3: our faith. But Phil Driscoll and Darling Bishop Driscoll have

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Speaker 3: learned that life's greatest battles often lead to God's greatest victories.

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Speaker 3: Of course, today they're here to share how we can

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Speaker 3: stand strong in the face of adversity and receive God's promises.

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Speaker 3: I wanted you to, darlings, you're such a preacher, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling y'all. You look at it.

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Speaker 3: You don't think, but that woman can't preach. And but

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Speaker 3: you know what, you we've all been through some things

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Speaker 3: we've talked about the last couple of years. Especially, it

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Speaker 3: seems like there's just a real testing that's that's coming.

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Speaker 14: Especially people that are in ministry. I mean, this is

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Speaker 14: the time that we've all anybody that's doing anything effective

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Speaker 14: for the Kingdom of God has been in the fire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 14: And I just you know, when I talk to the devil,

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Speaker 14: because sometimes I have talk try him because he gets

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Speaker 14: to mess them with my head and.

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Speaker 1: Tell them to get behind you. Yes you like, yeah

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 14: But I've been telling him you step back and watch

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Speaker 14: because what's going to come out of this is nothing

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Speaker 14: that the world's ever seen. Because when the enemy tries

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Speaker 14: to attack us, it's one thing. But when he tries

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Speaker 14: to attack our gift that's in us as a.

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Speaker 4: Whole other story.

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Speaker 14: You hit a nerve with this girl's right, when you

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Speaker 14: touch the ministration, you don't want.

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Speaker 1: To feel has a word there?

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Speaker 4: Well, it was just new.

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Speaker 10: Levels, new devils. You know, when you start doing more

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Speaker 10: for God. Get ready. Yeah, people that they go, well,

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Speaker 10: now that you serve God, you don't going to have

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Speaker 10: any problems, right, right, You're crazy, right because you were

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Speaker 10: on the devil's side. Now you've changed sides, and so

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Speaker 10: you get resistance like you've never seen in the world.

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Speaker 10: When I was in the world and running from God,

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Speaker 10: I mean I just was rocking. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 10: think about spiritual warfare, right, what's that?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 10: And most people in the in the in the world

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Speaker 10: don't even they know there's a higher power and a

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Speaker 10: lower power, yes, but they refuse, you know, they refuse

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Speaker 10: to put it in perspective. You know, when you're when

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Speaker 10: you're in darkness, darkness is comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Light is not comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit, Darlene about the diagnosis you

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Speaker 3: had back into nineteen eighty six. I believe as only

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Speaker 3: there's some people watching today you need you need encouragement,

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you her testimony is going to inspire you,

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Speaker 3: and it's also going to build your faith.

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Speaker 1: Some of you just like, Okay, go ahead and sit down.

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Speaker 1: You never watch before.

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Speaker 3: God has something for you today, and I want you to listen,

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Speaker 3: especially those of you that are struggling with some kind

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Speaker 3: of diagnosis that doesn't look good.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 14: My two sisters both died with breast cancer. And it's

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Speaker 14: hard for me to say this, but how that one

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Speaker 14: night I was taking a bath and I found a

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Speaker 14: lump in my breast and it paralyzed my faith. I mean,

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Speaker 14: I couldn't I couldn't think of a scripture, I couldn't pray,

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Speaker 14: I couldn't do anything because the enemy just said, now

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Speaker 14: it's your turn.

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Speaker 4: You're going to die.

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Speaker 14: And I mean I fought hell for three days. And

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Speaker 14: my son came into my bedroom and he said, Mom,

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Speaker 14: what the world's wrong with you? Because he knows I'm

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Speaker 14: not a mom to sit home and not do anything.

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Speaker 14: But I told him, I said, well, I said, Lawrence,

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Speaker 14: the devil has attacked my body and I've got a

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Speaker 14: lump in my breast. And he said, without any reservation,

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Speaker 14: he said, have you forgot the prophecy that was given

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Speaker 14: to you that you were going to go around the world. Mom,

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Speaker 14: you've only preached to a couple hundred people. What are

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Speaker 14: you thinking that you're not going to get your promise?

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Speaker 14: And I said, okay, honey. He said, well, let me

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Speaker 14: pray with you. And so he prayed with me. And

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Speaker 14: when he left he left at my bedroom.

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Speaker 2: I.

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Speaker 14: Said, devil, get out your little black book and write

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Speaker 14: this down, because I'm going to show you the God

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Speaker 14: that I've been preaching about is going to heal me

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Speaker 14: and nothing else. And I mean, I felt like my

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Speaker 14: faith was I mean, I was ready to fight. And

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Speaker 14: so I thought, man, I'll be this lump will be

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Speaker 14: gone tomorrow because of my faith that it had come

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Speaker 14: back to me. And little did I know that I

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Speaker 14: was going to have a fight for my life for months,

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Speaker 14: for over five months. And I told told him, I said,

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Speaker 14: don't you tell nobody this, because I know how women

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Speaker 14: are at the church. They get you get cancer, and

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Speaker 14: they got you buried and there married to you.

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Speaker 4: So but anyway, but it.

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Speaker 1: It was going to it was going to be. It

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Speaker 1: was going to be a journey. It wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: be an overnight.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm sure you got up and thought, oh still there, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 14: Know right exactly every day, I mean, and became a

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Speaker 14: solid mass. This is my right breast became a solid

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Speaker 14: mass and.

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Speaker 4: Then started bleeding.

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Speaker 14: And so here I am praising God and preaching, still

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Speaker 14: going out and preaching, still preaching at my church, and

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Speaker 14: morn yeah. And I pulled my brawl back sometimes while

833
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Speaker 14: I was even ministering, and I'm looking to see if

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Speaker 14: it was still there after I've prayed, you know, and

835
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Speaker 14: all that, and it was still there.

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Speaker 4: The blood was still there.

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Speaker 14: And but anyway, I was washing the blood out of

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Speaker 14: my gown. And this is for somebody that's dealing with

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Speaker 14: this right now. I really believe that. And I heard

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Speaker 14: him say my name. He said Darlene, and it was

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Speaker 14: so real. I raised up and I said, yes, Lord,

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Speaker 14: And he said, because you've continued in the Word, as

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Speaker 14: of this day.

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Speaker 4: You're healed. Go proclaim it.

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Speaker 14: And I've been proclaiming it since nineteen almost forty years

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Speaker 14: next year.

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Speaker 4: That was free of everything.

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Speaker 14: And knowing that, but see, we forget that faith has

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Speaker 14: to be tested before it can be trusted. So you

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Speaker 14: have to go through something. There's nobody that don't envy

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Speaker 14: anybody in ministry unless you're ready to go through hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your question in it?

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Speaker 13: Did it go a wait immediately then after the Lord

854
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Speaker 13: spoke to you or was that still another process?

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Speaker 4: It didn't believe any more than that.

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Speaker 14: And the mass was totally gone three days wonderful.

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Speaker 10: Wow, But think about it, he said, from this day

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Speaker 10: forwards your healed.

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Speaker 2: But she still had all the symptoms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And the other thing when you think about it, disease.

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Speaker 10: We live in a jet it now society, right, we think,

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Speaker 10: if God's going to heal me, you got to heal

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Speaker 10: me right now. But disease is a process. Yes, sometimes

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Speaker 10: healing is a process.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: When Jesus cured the blind man, he saw men like trees, right,

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Speaker 10: he wasn't told hell.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes it just takes a minute. It does. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean it's not working.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure For people who don't know Field Driscoll is

873
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Speaker 3: just such an amazing musician and singer but really worship

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Speaker 3: leader and that he just understands about the presence of God,

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Speaker 3: very sensitive the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 1: But it hasn't always been that way.

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Speaker 3: Talk about when you really surrendered to the Lord.

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, I grew up in church.

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Speaker 10: My dad was a minister right, and I had a

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Speaker 10: best selling Christian record for Word. I think it was

882
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Speaker 10: the biggest one they ever had in.

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Speaker 2: Back when word was just when word was the word.

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Speaker 10: Right, I'm going to I'm about to get drafted to.

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Speaker 2: I go to Baylor.

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Speaker 10: I'm in Baylor, and then the word signs me and

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Speaker 10: I do a CD I mean no, I do an

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Speaker 10: album yes, in Stockholm, Sweden. And then and then, as

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Speaker 10: I began to grow, I mean funk. I loved rock

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Speaker 10: and roll, I loved all that, but the church says,

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Speaker 10: oh no, God doesn't like rhythm. Right, So I began

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Speaker 10: to go, well, maybe God's not as if as I

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Speaker 10: thought he was. And so I went out and for

894
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 10: about ten years I was running. You know, you get

895
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 10: caught in a web in the world. You know, the

896
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 10: lifestyle of a musician is a different lifestyle than any

897
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 10: other technology because you deal with tremendous gratification and tremendous

898
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 10: lack thereof.

899
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: You have to deal with rejection.

900
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 10: And so I was in it, and I hadn't dealt

901
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 10: with rejection much except in the megaining.

902
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: I played all the joints before I made it right.

903
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 10: So I'm with Joe Cocker. I would play even when

904
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 10: in the clubs, I would play the Lord's Prayer at

905
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 10: the end of the day. But I guess it was

906
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 10: my symbolic thing for God.

907
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: Right.

908
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 10: People would put bibles on my on my bandstand sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah,

909
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 10: because you know, I knew the guy that was Elvis's

910
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 10: worship leader Memphis Church. I say, believe God, and he

911
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 10: said Phil He said Elvis would come in and sing,

912
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 10: but the church never supported him. They wanted everything for nothing,

913
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 10: big indictment. But I anyway, I came in that. The

914
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 10: story that most people don't know is I I was.

915
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 10: I had built a synthetic cocaine laboratory, right, and I

916
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 10: was involved in drugs quite because when you're in music,

917
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 10: it's the it's the tour de force, right, And so

918
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 10: I built this and I was on the road coocker.

919
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 2: We had a call.

920
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 10: He got a call from this guy, and I said,

921
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 10: we'll bring some stuff and we'll have a party. And

922
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 10: he came to Atlanta and it was a wired, big wire.

923
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 10: It was the biggest wire tab conspiracy the government ever had.

924
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 10: And so long story short, I'm I. On Christmas Day,

925
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 10: my mom and my dad came to my house. I

926
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 10: played until two or three that night, right, they had

927
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 10: dunkin donuts and coffee, and they said, will you come

928
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 10: to church with us? I don't do church, but I'll

929
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 10: go with you. My dad had me older later in

930
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 10: his life, so I had to go. So I went

931
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 10: Dromar Rose Rows the church, thought I'd do God a favor.

932
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 10: Parked way away from the church because it was packed,

933
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 10: was a gymnasium. I walked in and the people they

934
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 10: were having more as much fun or more than people

935
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 10: in bars nightclubs at midnight or one o'clock.

936
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: Right, So I went goye and.

937
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 10: I'm leaning against the back wall, and it was a

938
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 10: lady preacher and I'm listening, and all of a sudden,

939
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 10: I begin to feel the prisons of the Lord and Joe.

940
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 10: What got me was not to take so long. But

941
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 10: there was a guy playing trumpet and he wasn't very good,

942
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 10: but I'm listening to him and with me music had

943
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 10: Music was like a magnetic field when I would when

944
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 10: I would go wherever and I heard music, I'd immediately

945
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 10: go to where they were, not because I wanted to play,

946
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 10: but it drew me. So I walked up and said

947
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 10: can I play? He said sure, I played, and most

948
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 10: people there were a lot of people in the church

949
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 10: that went to the clubs, right, and so they knew

950
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 10: I had long hair down to here and you know,

951
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 10: leathers and claws. I didn't look safe, but God didn't care.

952
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 10: And so when I when I played, it was the

953
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 10: ever played amazing grace, and God really spoke to me, said, son,

954
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 10: that's the reason I gave you the talent. And that

955
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 10: day marked changed in my lind.

956
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Wow going on.

957
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 6: Did you not go to clubs anymore?

958
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 14: No?

959
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 10: I did for a while because I didn't know. See,

960
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 10: the church had divorced me because they said God didn't

961
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 10: like it funky. I liked it funky. God didn't like

962
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 10: it loud. I never heard turned it down until I

963
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 10: went to church.

964
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: So sanctification is a process. It's like sometimes, you know, Darling,

965
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: is this true? People would People will pray a prayer,

966
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: invite Jesus in and get safe. But they've maybe come

967
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: out of the world and we expect them to understand

968
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: every rule and regulation, which there's too many obviously, but

969
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: you've got to let the Holy Spirit do that work. Right,

970
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: And so there was a process of God showing you

971
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: right how to live life and how to you know?

972
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: And you're still I mean, we're still in that process, right.

973
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: Can I tell you the end of the story, Yes,

974
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: tell us.

975
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 10: That night I went back to church and I sat

976
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 10: in the back because I couldn't deny what had happened

977
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 10: to me. It was like somebody poured warm oil over

978
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 10: me because I had a contract out on the guy.

979
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 10: I was in the danger zone right and a guy

980
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 10: was short hair, I call him a redneck. He came

981
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 10: up to me and said, brother, I have a word

982
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 10: for you. I wasn't that saved and so so he says,

983
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 10: you're going to go through the heaviest time within three

984
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 10: weeks of your life from this day, and God has

985
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 10: brought you back now to show you that he.

986
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Has a plant purpose for you.

987
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 10: Well, seventeen days later, I'm in the shower. Nineteen federal

988
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 10: agents surrounded my house. Came in with guns drawing. I

989
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 10: had a doverman that weigh one hundred and eighty five pounds.

990
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 10: They put a magnum on him and said if he moves,

991
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 10: he's dead. They handcuffed me. They took me and I

992
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 10: was looking at conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance. It

993
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 10: was seventy six years. There were ninety nine defendants. Ninety

994
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 10: five did time, three were killed, and one was acquitted.

995
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 10: I was the one that was acquitted on the technicality.

996
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 10: So you can't tell me that God didn't have a

997
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 10: big plan. But he arrested me before. The big deal

998
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 10: in it was that he delivered me. But the big

999
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 10: deal was that he gave me a heads up before.

1000
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Right.

1001
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: But you know what stands out to me in your

1002
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: story is that when you're standing in the back and

1003
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: you recognize the.

1004
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: Presence of God.

1005
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: Because people who have that gifting, especially with music, if

1006
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 3: you ever allow them to get into that kind of presence,

1007
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: their spirit recognized them.

1008
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: There's no question.

1009
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 10: A friend of mine who did Olivia Newton John Remember

1010
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 10: he wrote a song and in the song was even

1011
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 10: a blind man can tell when he's walking in the sun.

1012
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: So many of those songs, you know, were written for

1013
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: the King of Kings and the Lord of lords that

1014
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: we think are secular.

1015
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 10: You are so beautiful, Billy Preston wrote, you are so

1016
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 10: beautiful to.

1017
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 4: Jesus When we say it to me all the time,

1018
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: I do.

1019
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: That's right, that's awesome, that's awesome.

1020
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 6: I'm curious what were your parents' reaction to indicted and

1021
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 6: then like the lord so germatic.

1022
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 10: Was devastating because in Jacksonville, where it happened, I was

1023
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 10: a big deal, you know. So it's front page, big page,

1024
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 10: and here my mom and dad lived there, you know,

1025
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 10: it was it was crazy.

1026
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: My dad.

1027
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 10: My mom was not quite as forgiving, right, but my dad.

1028
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 10: I owned two nightclubs in Jacksonville when I was in

1029
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 10: the world, right, and my dad would come and work

1030
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 10: on my nightclothes.

1031
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: And that's what got.

1032
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: Me really well.

1033
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: When he came that morning with the dunkin Donuts and

1034
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: the coffee and you went to church, he saw something happen, right,

1035
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1036
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 10: They stood right beside me. They were crying, they were

1037
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 10: they lost it.

1038
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it got you because it was when someone

1039
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: loved you and it didn't make sense like I'm still

1040
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: going to love you, still going to support you. I

1041
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: was still going to show up for you regardless of

1042
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 6: what you're doing.

1043
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: And don't you need that break somebody?

1044
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: Oh for good. I think it was the thing that

1045
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: broke me.

1046
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 10: Because if you have a if you have a son

1047
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 10: or a daughter, and their hell raisers, right, and you're

1048
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 10: a Golli per so the instinct just to do this,

1049
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 10: love them and love them, just love them, because the

1050
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 10: love of God is the greatest force.

1051
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that will change. You know.

1052
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 10: You can press down to somebody, but they will they'll

1053
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 10: just blow you off. You know, Jonie, Today when I

1054
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 10: was we came in late because we had a little

1055
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 10: bit of mishaps trying to get here. Anyway, we get

1056
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 10: in and you know, we're making things and a couple

1057
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 10: of things didn't work, and I'm going, you know, and

1058
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 10: I so I said, Okay, I know what I'm going

1059
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 10: to do. I thought I knew what I was going

1060
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 10: to do. And then when you all begin to sing,

1061
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 10: I went the HOLYGSS. I said now. And so the

1062
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 10: only thing that I thought I knew we were going

1063
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 10: to do today we didn't do. And so I told David.

1064
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 10: I just said, David, I said, see see music, that's

1065
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 10: your piano.

1066
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: By the way, you are.

1067
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: You're so gifted.

1068
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 10: Music operates it. Timestamps can remember where you were when

1069
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 10: you heard a song. Listen, say take out Christian music.

1070
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 10: You can remember something that happened when you heard a song,

1071
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 10: and every time you hear the song, you go back

1072
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 10: to that because the times down right right, and so

1073
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 10: even in I've recorded now four hundred and fifty songs

1074
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 10: for Jesus.

1075
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: But once I go live albums.

1076
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 10: Once I go live, it's harder to go back because

1077
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 10: it's in the now. It's a big deal. Faith is

1078
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 10: in the now. You can't move God on Yesterday's faith.

1079
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Songs are in the now.

1080
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're coming up on the four year

1081
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: anniversary of your dad graduating to heaven my late husband

1082
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: Marcus Lamb and Peel was the first person up at

1083
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: the funeral to play and just.

1084
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: By the presence of God. Yes, no one will ever forget.

1085
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen marcus funeral on YouTube, I think

1086
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: they've probably got half a million views of that.

1087
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: You have to go watch it.

1088
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: But Peel set the tone that was such an incredible

1089
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: moment of just inviting the presence of God.

1090
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember, Oh.

1091
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 5: I remember every time I listened to his music, I

1092
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 5: think about Pastor Marcus, because that time, I mean, the

1093
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 5: Holy Spirit was there from the beginning because you started it,

1094
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 5: and I mean it never.

1095
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: Left after that service.

1096
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 14: I don't know how many people Jensen, Frank and a

1097
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 14: bunch of them come up to field it when.

1098
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: I die, I want you to.

1099
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 8: He becomes the funeral song and I can't well know.

1100
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: I mean, because he was singing a song that exalted

1101
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: the word.

1102
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: It was all about it exalting.

1103
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: It was a celebration of someone who had finished the

1104
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: course and had.

1105
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: To just being with him. I mean, it gave everybody

1106
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: whole you know.

1107
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 5: I'm sure there was people there that didn't know the Lord,

1108
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: but I guarantee you when they left.

1109
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: Also any special like what would be some of the

1110
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 3: moments where you know that God was able to use

1111
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: you that kind of stand out throughout your life. I

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Speaker 3: mean there's so many, I know, just tell us a couple.

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Speaker 10: You know, sometimes when you go a place tony and

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Speaker 10: you say, God, did you forget to show up? And

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Speaker 10: then someone will come up to you whose life was

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Speaker 10: totally mesmerized yea and changed. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's not about the numbers. Sometimes I think

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Speaker 10: we miss it. God didn't need a big army. He

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Speaker 10: proved it with Gideon, right, But I think I mean,

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Speaker 10: I played, you know, South Africa. I played for a million,

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Speaker 10: two hundred thousand lives.

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Speaker 1: He played for five presidents.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, if I presidents, But you know, I was going

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Speaker 10: to say something. I think it's important. I don't know

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Speaker 10: if it's important for this show. But years ago Kenneth

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Speaker 10: Cofeland told me is the way God does business is

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Speaker 10: in the law of fair exchange. That's why the lottery

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Speaker 10: is usually a jerk. But you know, people get the

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Speaker 10: lottery and they're more broke than the order. It's six

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Speaker 10: months or a year in the law of fair exchange.

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Speaker 10: See if I sing you a song like I was

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Speaker 10: going to do this morning, there's three kinds of music

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Speaker 10: for God. One is man to man, and God will

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Speaker 10: honor that kind of music. It's a confession. It's whatever

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Speaker 10: God's go for you. That's power because you involve the

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Speaker 10: name of Jesus. But the most powerful is man to

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Speaker 10: God music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 10: And then God to man music, the spontaneous song of

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Speaker 10: the world. What we did this morning, we're just spontaneous songs.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, But that's the secret. It's not

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Speaker 10: about if I say, you know, I love Darlene, she's

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Speaker 10: a really great lady. She's beautiful, or if I look

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Speaker 10: at her and say, Darlene, I love you, there's something

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Speaker 10: that's different. Yeah, And that's how it is when we

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Speaker 10: worship the Lord, we don't call him in the third person. Lord,

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Speaker 10: it's abb father, it's our that's the wonder of it all.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that trumps everything.

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Speaker 3: Just take a moment, if you will, and would you

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Speaker 3: just lead a Centate Center's prayer for those that are

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Speaker 3: watching right now that maybe they're listening, but they act

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Speaker 3: they've actually never invited the Lord into their heart and life,

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Speaker 3: and that the Holy spirits just opened up their heart

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Speaker 3: for this moment.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it's.

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Speaker 3: The most important prayer that you'll ever pray. The Lord

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Speaker 3: loves you so much. Is no accident that you're watching.

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Speaker 3: We'll just repeat after you.

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Speaker 10: You might be the biggest heathen.

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Speaker 2: In the state.

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Speaker 4: I knew you had something to say.

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Speaker 10: You might be somebody that's the most famous. You might

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Speaker 10: be a billionaire or a billionaire. You might be acclaimed.

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Speaker 10: You might have medals on the wall.

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Speaker 2: Fill the wall.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't mean anything in the real life, which is

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Speaker 10: not here. Jesus said, I go to prepare a place

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Speaker 10: for you.

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Speaker 2: It was not a lie. And you know we pray.

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Speaker 10: We watch Franklin Graham lead people in that thirty second commercial.

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Speaker 10: We pray for him every time, because the Gospel is

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Speaker 10: not a difficult message. It's so easy that your five

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Speaker 10: year old can accept him.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. You do it now.

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Speaker 4: You pray, Father, in the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 2: In the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 14: We thank you for this wonderful day, Thank you for

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Speaker 14: this one and the privilege that we have that we

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Speaker 14: have to be in unity with you, to be in

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Speaker 14: with you.

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Speaker 4: And we ask you right.

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Speaker 14: Now ever is watching this program, that you will bless them.

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Speaker 14: You will bless them with life, more abundant life. And

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Speaker 14: we thank you from this day forward, thank you for

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Speaker 14: the power of our witness.

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Speaker 4: Let it go forth, Lord, as we are.

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Speaker 14: Saved, we are healed, we are blessed beyond masure, and

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Speaker 14: we thank you for a day.

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Speaker 4: That we are saved.

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Speaker 14: We are healed and delivered and protected by your power

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Speaker 14: and protected in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 1: Jesus.

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Speaker 14: Amen, Thank you, Jesus, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You so much.

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Speaker 3: Well, we are out of time today, but I want

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Speaker 3: you to remember, no matter what you're walking through today,

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Speaker 3: I pray you've been encouraged and I pray that you

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Speaker 3: know that you're going to make it.

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Speaker 1: God is working behind the scenes. He's moving on your behalf.

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Speaker 3: So keep believing, keep pray, and keep worshiping until you

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Speaker 3: see His promises fulfilled in your life. If you're watching

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Speaker 3: today and you prayed that prayer, if you invited Jesus,

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Speaker 3: and if you said, Jesus forgive me. I always tell

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Speaker 3: the story about my grandpa who just said, God, if

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Speaker 3: you're there, I need you. You didn't know how to

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Speaker 3: pray any other prayer.

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Speaker 1: He just knew he's at the end of himself.

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Speaker 3: And he knelt down in a factory there in Greenville,

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Speaker 3: South Carolina, on a Monday morning, at the water fountain.

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Speaker 3: He told me and he said, God, if you're there,

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Speaker 3: I need you. You might be there God, and you

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Speaker 3: just say, God, I don't know who these people are,

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Speaker 3: but if you're there, I need you.

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Speaker 1: The onus is not on us to prove who he is.

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Speaker 3: He will reveal himself from you in a magnificent way.

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Speaker 3: He's going to do that for you. There is a

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Speaker 3: prayer line number on the screen. We have amazing partners.

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Speaker 3: They're standing by ready to pray with you, and it's

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Speaker 3: our honor to do so. If you did pray that

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Speaker 3: prayer and invite Jesus into your heart, you ask him

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Speaker 3: to forgive you. We'd love to send you the Book

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Speaker 3: of John. It's a great place to start in the Bible,

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Speaker 3: the Gospel of John. Listen that to you absolutely free.

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Speaker 3: But I do want to thank Phil and Darling for

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Speaker 3: joining us. To find out more about Phil's ministry, visit

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Speaker 3: phildriskll dot com. And for more from Darlene, you can

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Speaker 3: visit Solid Rockchurch dot org. You got to go listen

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Speaker 3: to Phil Driscoll's music. Okay, it's all over the place.

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Speaker 3: It's such a blessing young and old.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? I love it. I love it as always.

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Speaker 3: also listen to the Jony table Talk podcast, available.

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Speaker 1: Now on all the major platforms. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for watching.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about what God has for you in the

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Speaker 3: days ahead. You be encouraged today and there's some of

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Speaker 3: you that again you needed healing in your body.

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Speaker 1: That's why that numbers on the screen.

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Speaker 3: We would love to pray for you and believe with

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Speaker 3: you for God to touch you just like he touched

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Speaker 3: Darling so many years ago.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. By bye for today.