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Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt,

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Speaker 1: and today we're discussing a cornucopia of budget travel tips.

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Speaker 1: So do you see a cornucopia or do you say

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Speaker 1: corn ucopia? Can? I'm gonna go back and forth, like

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Speaker 1: whenever I'm feeling in the moment. It all depends on

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Speaker 1: what you have for breakfast, I guess exactly. Um So, counacopia.

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Speaker 1: That's not a word that we use often, and we

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Speaker 1: can't not help but think of the Hunger Games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course I picture it just like they talked about

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Speaker 1: in the book, right, like this giant metallic architectural wonder

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Speaker 1: full of weapons, which actually makes me wonder, what if

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Speaker 1: you were in the Hunger Games? What item do you

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Speaker 1: think you would have gravitated to? My gosh, I would

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Speaker 1: have ben for like the bow and arrow Like I

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Speaker 1: like I would have had to choose something like an

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Speaker 1: axe or a sword. But even still, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: lasted very long with it. You wouldn't have um which

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Speaker 1: one of which one of the guys like took the

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Speaker 1: classes on how to like disguise himself and make him

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Speaker 1: blend into the mud, Like I feel like you would

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Speaker 1: have done good just to be like, Okay, I'm out

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Speaker 1: of here, guys. Let all of you kill each other

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Speaker 1: and then I'll be the last man standing. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna hiding either, so we're doing a disaster. I'm not

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Speaker 1: like the biggest dude, you know, like if I had

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Speaker 1: would probably have like set like traps and I would

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Speaker 1: have been all about the snares. So you do that,

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Speaker 1: you're little sneaky. Yeah, yeah, well yeah, today it's it's

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Speaker 1: not a corny copia of weapons, it's a corn copia

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Speaker 1: budget travel tips. That's we're gonna talk about today about travel. Man.

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Speaker 1: There's just so many things, Matt, especially as people are

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Speaker 1: beginning to travel again in big numbers, and hopefully the

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Speaker 1: delta variant doesn't have just like this huge negative impact

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Speaker 1: on people starting to travel again, but as people are

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Speaker 1: looking to that, they're starting to book those trips again. Like,

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Speaker 1: we want to give you a ton of ideas for

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Speaker 1: how to save money on that trip that you're looking

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Speaker 1: to take, So stay tuned. There are going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of tips, that's right, and kind of on

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Speaker 1: that note to the beer that we're enjoying this episode

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Speaker 1: is called v K day Dreams, and on the can

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Speaker 1: it says calendar and it's in the trash physically, good riddance.

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Speaker 1: This was a beer that they were essentially acknowledging the

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Speaker 1: fact that we all had plans that we had to

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Speaker 1: put on hold. Those vacation plans just became day dreams.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, hopefully these are plans that we

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Speaker 1: are going to be able to get back to, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm excited about enjoying this beer on the episode.

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Speaker 1: But at first you wanted to talk about like a

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Speaker 1: little shopping tip, right, I just wanted to mention just

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Speaker 1: one thing I stumbled upon recently. As you know, before

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Speaker 1: a recent summer trip, I was looking to buy some

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Speaker 1: sunscreen and decided to get this sunscreen from Target, you know,

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Speaker 1: super wonderful little store named Target that everyone everyone has

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Speaker 1: near where they live. And I didn't realize this, but

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Speaker 1: trip to get a shipped. And I found out by

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Speaker 1: happenstance that that was actually the cheapest way to get

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Speaker 1: would have actually been more expensive. And also going into

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Speaker 1: the store just to grab this product off the shelf

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Speaker 1: would have been more expensive. For some reason, on certain products,

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Speaker 1: Target incentivizes you to add it to your cart online

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Speaker 1: and then to choose in store pickup and they give

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Speaker 1: you an additional discount. So on these products it was

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Speaker 1: an additional fiftent savings. Uh. For some random reason, I

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Speaker 1: think they're just really trying to promote that service and

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Speaker 1: saying I just wanted to mention that two people that

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Speaker 1: check the price online before you walk into the store,

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Speaker 1: because sometimes it's going to be priced lower online to

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Speaker 1: your due diligence when you're shopping. And and you know,

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Speaker 1: my sunscreen needs were substantial, Matt, so it was a

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Speaker 1: big savings. Yeah, that's right. At the time, you were

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Speaker 1: getting sunscreen for two full weeks at the beach. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you did a family trip and then we did

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Speaker 1: a family trip together, or we did a combined family

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Speaker 1: takes a few days just to feel like you've got away. Um,

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Speaker 1: a little bit too taking as much vacation as you

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Speaker 1: online to make that purchase, but then opt to pick

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Speaker 1: then order and then wait for it to get shipped.

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Speaker 1: Tone that's the opposite of what you want, right, that's

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Speaker 1: just inefficient, Yeah, exactly, But ye, hopefully that tip helps

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Speaker 1: you out in your future shopping endeavors. But Matt, let's

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Speaker 1: get onto the topic of hand. Let's talk about these

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Speaker 1: budget travel tips, and and anybody who's listening to How

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Speaker 1: the Money for a while knows that disc golf is

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite pastimes. It has been for a while,

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Speaker 1: and it's apparently gaining in popularity. I just saw that, Uh,

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Speaker 1: some disc golfer signed some sort of ten million dollar deal. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Some of these disc golf tournaments are being broadcast on ESPN. Now,

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, it's good to see one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite sports kind of start to get into

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Speaker 1: the limelight. Yes, Ben thirty five the Ocho. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I think one of the coolest things about disc golf

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Speaker 1: is how accessible the sport is. Right, Like, anybody can

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Speaker 1: gonna spend fifteen dollars, and you know that's gonna afford

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Speaker 1: you years of fun. It's one of the cheapest sports around.

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Speaker 1: that's right. And when something that you would do anyway,

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Speaker 1: Like I would play disc golf no matter what because

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Speaker 1: I've never been to one of those, but I want

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Speaker 1: even if I did, I don't know. Like that that

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Speaker 1: something that lots of our listeners like to do. They

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Speaker 1: like to travel, and then how to partake in that

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. It's just all good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you call the silver lining, but in some instances

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Speaker 1: maybe it's like the whole point. Right at least here

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Speaker 1: on the show we talk about money first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: and finding ways to spend as little money as possible

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Speaker 1: and all things. But in this case, travel, that's what

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Speaker 1: the first thing that you think of when you, yes,

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Speaker 1: trying to point out that it doesn't have to cost

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Speaker 1: their itinerary in your mind and like, oh gosh, that's

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Speaker 1: The amount of money that Americans have spent on travel

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Speaker 1: in this episode, we're gonna cover just a litany a

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Speaker 1: The tips will start digging in, and yeah, there are

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Speaker 1: comes to a lot of things in life. When you're

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Speaker 1: Often it's going to be crowded or maybe less enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be less frustrating. Um and this, of course

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Speaker 1: can be harder to do for folks with kids. Right.

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Speaker 1: Possibly the only perk of virtual school last year was

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Speaker 1: And so people took off in droves, you know, around

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Speaker 1: like you said, Joe, if you kind of have a list,

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Speaker 1: like a short list of I don't know, maybe like

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Speaker 1: like just say six if six seven different places that

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Speaker 1: you want to check out, that I think can definitely

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Speaker 1: help you to spend a whole lot less and just

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Speaker 1: going to where the deals are, not necessarily going to

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Speaker 1: where it is that you want to go this year.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, pull that side up, start dreaming based on

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Speaker 1: the lowest cost places to fly. It's a great interface

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Speaker 1: really just to kind of dig around and you're like

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Speaker 1: what second, I didn't realize with there's something in Europe

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Speaker 1: that's three? Why is that? What is that place? And

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Speaker 1: then like oh that can I get around from there

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Speaker 1: to other places I want to visit even to that

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Speaker 1: it's just like a great resource to see the globe

447
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Speaker 1: at a glance, pricing at a glance. Yeah, And so

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Speaker 1: basically you're kind of flipping travel on its head a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But obviously this may not work if you

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Speaker 1: have to be somewhere specific right to So you have

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Speaker 1: to like go somewhere for a wedding, not only do

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Speaker 1: you have a specific destination, but you also have a

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Speaker 1: specific date, like you have a specific time frame, which

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Speaker 1: is the worst. When you have a preset location and

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Speaker 1: time that you have to be there, there's not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of flexibility. You're basically just beholden to whatever

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Speaker 1: it is that the airlines decided to choose. And so

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Speaker 1: essentially we want to free you up, um that want

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Speaker 1: you to be open to all the different destinations as

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Speaker 1: well as different dates as well. That's why we say,

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Speaker 1: say note to international weddings, say sorry, mom, I can't

462
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Speaker 1: go to your wedding ceremony because like you're getting married

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Speaker 1: overseas and like, yeah, scot too much, too much money,

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Speaker 1: I love you, but not coming And I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: just kidding. Sometimes that happens. Might be you might be

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Speaker 1: considered cheap, yeah, but do your best to stay flexible.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there are a couple of other you know

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Speaker 1: sites actually that are that are worth bookmarking, Scott's Cheap

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Speaker 1: Flights and Airfare Watchdog. Um, Like, if you're a travel

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Speaker 1: nuts signing up for you know, the newsletter from Scott's

471
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Speaker 1: Cheap Flights, we would say as a must. Scott's been

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Speaker 1: on the show before. We love his philosophy and and

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Speaker 1: just his service in helping people see you know where

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Speaker 1: the cheap flights are and you know that forty nine

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Speaker 1: dollars paying Scotch Cheap Flights can save you hundreds or

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Speaker 1: potentially even thousands of dollars on your next trip. Um,

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Speaker 1: those newsletters can be a great tool to push you

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Speaker 1: towards a destination that you might not have considered based

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Speaker 1: on an incredibly low fair to Matt, because like Scott

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Speaker 1: does a great job highlighting some of these destinations. I

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Speaker 1: remember last time he came on with us for some

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Speaker 1: reason airfare to Japan, which just incredibly low. There were

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Speaker 1: like four tickets from a bunch of cities around the

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Speaker 1: United States, And in his newsletter, not only did he

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Speaker 1: make mention of, you know, how inexpensive the flights were,

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Speaker 1: but he also kind of gave you some background information

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Speaker 1: on a couple of the cooler cities in Japan that

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Speaker 1: he's visited. And if I was in a different life

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Speaker 1: space without multiple children, I would have I would have

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Speaker 1: pounced on that man. That sounds so exciting. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like those resources can be helpful, especially if

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Speaker 1: you are like a big time travel nut. Totally. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know, here's the thing too, wherever you end up,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you always stay the weekend. This is

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Speaker 1: another little practical tip, and so if you include a

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Speaker 1: Saturday night stay where you're going, you're almost always going

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Speaker 1: to save more money. Especially when you're traveling to Europe.

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Speaker 1: You'll save a heck of a lot more if you

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Speaker 1: travel Monday through Sunday instead of Monday through Friday. And

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Speaker 1: that's because you know, if you don't stay for the weekend,

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Speaker 1: the airlines assume that you are a business traveler, and

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Speaker 1: business travelers always pay more because there's a corporation typically

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Speaker 1: behind them that's willing just to pay out that money

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Speaker 1: because it's not about getting the best deal and travel.

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Speaker 1: It's about closing the closing the deal on the you know,

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Speaker 1: giant project or whatever business that they're working on. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And plus you know who wants to just you know,

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Speaker 1: go travel abroad for a few days anyway, Uh, enjoy

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Speaker 1: your time. Hopefully you have some of that flexibility not

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Speaker 1: only with your travel dates, but with your work as well.

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Speaker 1: And you know, actually there is one location where the

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Speaker 1: the opposite is actually true. If you go to the Caribbean,

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Speaker 1: it actually costs more if you stay through Saturday, if

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Speaker 1: you stay for for the full week, because typically when

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Speaker 1: someone goes to the Caribbean, there's not a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of business going on. Now. People are going there to

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Speaker 1: vacate for a week pleasure exactly. And so again it's

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Speaker 1: about being flexible and basically doing the opposite of what

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Speaker 1: most folks are doing in order to save the most money.

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Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, and so there are just so many

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Speaker 1: things we have to talk about when it comes to

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Speaker 1: airfare and Uh. One of the other things, Matt, we

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Speaker 1: have to mention is to fly from or to somewhere

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Speaker 1: else We've already talked about being flexible with your destination.

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Speaker 1: But let's say you kind of know where you want

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Speaker 1: to go, or you kind of honed in on some things. Well,

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Speaker 1: there is no rule, and I feel like we have

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Speaker 1: to tell people this because there are very few people

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Speaker 1: who actually search different parameters. There's no rule. It says

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Speaker 1: that you have to fly from the airport that's closest

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Speaker 1: to your house, but sometimes we treat it like there

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Speaker 1: is one non negotiable exactly, or in the case of

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Speaker 1: like skip Blagg, which I mentioned earlier, think that you

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Speaker 1: actually have to make you know your make it to

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Speaker 1: your destination either, right, Like, that's not a rule either. Um,

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Speaker 1: you can book to another destination and hop off early.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, depending on where you'd like to fly, you

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Speaker 1: might want to drive even further to an airport in

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Speaker 1: order to get the best deal. For example, some of

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Speaker 1: the best to flight deals to Europe come out of

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Speaker 1: like Chicago or New York. And so if you live

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest and you've got family in Chicago, will

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Speaker 1: combine that trip with the chance to see those folks

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Speaker 1: spend a couple of days there. Uh, it could drastically

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Speaker 1: reduce the overall expense of your trip, and you know,

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Speaker 1: stubbornly attempting to book that European vacation from Birmingham, Alabama

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Speaker 1: or Memphis, Tennessee could end up costing you a whole

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Speaker 1: lot more and just being a little more flexible. For instance, Matt,

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Speaker 1: like for us to get the Chicago it's in incredibly cheap,

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Speaker 1: so you know, booking that international trip from there and

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Speaker 1: then booking a separate trip to Chicago can make a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. Yeah, and let's say you really

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Speaker 1: want to visit a super cool spot like Croatia and

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Speaker 1: Eastern Europe. Well you might find that the ticket prices

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Speaker 1: to Croatia never or like at least rarely go on sale,

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Speaker 1: and so instead consider booking round trip tickets to another

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Speaker 1: European destination that frequently has cheap tickets, like maybe London

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Speaker 1: or Paris. It all depends on the tickets from your

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Speaker 1: local airport or whatever airport that you're you're willing to

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Speaker 1: drive to or to fly to to get the best deal.

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Speaker 1: But there's a good chance that it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: heck of a lot cheaper to book travel on one

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Speaker 1: of the euro discount airlines to your Eastern European destination

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Speaker 1: from a bigger Western European city, Rome to Rio, like

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Speaker 1: the number two. That's a great site that can help

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Speaker 1: you defind cheaper ways to get around Europe as well. Yeah, Matt,

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Speaker 1: even just for like a non European trip as well.

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Speaker 1: For a lot of folks who want to go to

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Speaker 1: a cool place like Hawaii and you live on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast, oftentimes the best way to get to why

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Speaker 1: by paying the least amount of money is to book

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Speaker 1: a trip first to an airport on the West coast,

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Speaker 1: whether it's like l A or San Francisco or you know, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Maybe hang out for a day or two and one

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Speaker 1: of those cool, you know cities on the West Coast,

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Speaker 1: and then hop over to Hawaii from there. There's just

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Speaker 1: so many more deals to Hawaii from the West Coast,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately you're just gonna pay a whole lot less

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Speaker 1: money by kind of splitting up your itinerary in that way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so while we're talking about destinations, consider the different

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Speaker 1: planning to vacation to, right and so it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: more expensive to get to Thailand than it is to say,

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Speaker 1: get to San Francisco for most places. But San Francisco

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Speaker 1: so if you're staying for a couple of weeks, the

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Speaker 1: overall cost of your trip is actually gonna likely be

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Speaker 1: even though the price of the plane ticket is going

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Speaker 1: how expensive the city that you're planning to visit actually

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Speaker 1: is before you book, and think about the total over

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Speaker 1: all cost of your trip, not just the cost of

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Speaker 1: your flight. The cost of the flight is definitely important

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Speaker 1: because that's oftentimes the most expensive aspect of your vacation,

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Speaker 1: but it also depends on how long you're willing to

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Speaker 1: stay there and the costs associated with that destination. Yeah, totally,

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Speaker 1: And Matt, like you said, there are so many ways

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Speaker 1: that we can save on the cost of our trip. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for great ways, great ideas to stretch

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Speaker 1: your dollar at the destination that you're going to, trip

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Speaker 1: advisor is a website that you really really need to

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Speaker 1: check out. Right to me, like what yelped did for

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Speaker 1: finding a good restaurant trip Advisor did for helping you,

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Speaker 1: like find the diamond in the rough boutique hotel you

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Speaker 1: know that wasn't crazy expensive. Um. There's just like so

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Speaker 1: much information mostly coming from travelers helping other travelers. They're

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Speaker 1: finding the cool stuff to visit, finding the cheap places

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Speaker 1: to stay that are really nice. Um. Finding the cool

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Speaker 1: things to hit up and see in a particular location

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Speaker 1: that don't cost a whole lot of money. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: trip Advisor is definitely a site that you're gonna want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, spend quite a bit of time on, usually

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Speaker 1: for a lot of destinations that you don't know much about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And speaking of the overall cost of your trip adding up,

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Speaker 1: be aware of fees. The lowest price plane ticket might

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Speaker 1: not mean the lowest overall price, and that's because of

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Speaker 1: the different airlines. They all have different fee structures, So

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Speaker 1: different airlines charge. So Jill, earlier, I mentioned that forty

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Speaker 1: one flight from Atlanta to Denver, Well, that's flight is

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Speaker 1: with Spirit Airlines. I figured that might be the case,

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Speaker 1: cost of the ticket. Yeah, and that crazy Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: got you with the fees. And so it's just important

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Speaker 1: to be aware of that because I mean, in my case,

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Speaker 1: if I can travel with a small backpack, uh, and

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Speaker 1: that's good for the weekend, well, you know what, Like,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you're aware of all the other fees,

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Speaker 1: not just the baggage fees. For instance, make sure that

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Speaker 1: you print your ticket out at home, right right. Don't

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Speaker 1: spend the two bucks to get it printed out at

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Speaker 1: a kiosk or god forbid, have the attendant printed off,

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Speaker 1: because that will be an extra tin dollars. And so

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Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you're aware of all

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Speaker 1: these different fees. If Southwest, if they fly out of

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Speaker 1: your home airport, make sure to check their flight schedule

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Speaker 1: on southwest dot com Google flights. They don't list Southwest

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Speaker 1: fairs uh. And if Southwest is the same price, you

641
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Speaker 1: likely want to fly with them. Because of their commitment

642
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Speaker 1: to tamping down fees. There are no check baggage fees

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Speaker 1: on the first two bags that you can that you

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Speaker 1: bring on board. And said that, could you know that

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Speaker 1: could be a huge savings in and of itself. Uh.

646
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Speaker 1: And plus it's actually kind of perfect if you want

647
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Speaker 1: to bring some tasty craft beers back from your trip,

648
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: depending on where you're traveling to. Also, Southwest doesn't play

649
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: the change fee game as well. If you need to

650
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: change your dates after booking, you'll only pay for the

651
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Speaker 1: additional fair costs if there are any. If you need

652
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: to change your dates with Delta, well it's typically two bucks.

653
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Although change fees are actually being waved right now on

654
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Speaker 1: the cheapest basic economy fairs through the rest of the

655
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: year as they are just struggling with customer service whole times.

656
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: A lot of folks are having their flights bumps, a

657
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Speaker 1: lot of folks are on the phone waiting for that

658
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Speaker 1: customer service, and so some of these change fees are

659
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Speaker 1: being waved with the different carriers, and make sure to

660
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: look into that if you're looking to book anytime soon. Yeah,

661
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: fees are an important part of the equation. And one

662
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: of the other things that we haven't really talked about

663
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: yet is rental cars, and that's that's an important part

664
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Speaker 1: of a trip equation for a whole lot of people,

665
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Speaker 1: and it's one of the most frustrating parts of booking

666
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: a trip right now for for most folks too, right,

667
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: And and that's partly because it's like rental car prices

668
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: of Skyrocket, Actually getting a rental car has become really

669
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Speaker 1: difficult in a lot of places dollar a week cam

670
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Speaker 1: Re Rental and Jackson Hole or whatever we're looking at. Yeah,

671
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: and when we mentioned one, I don't know a couple

672
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: of months ago in Hawaii that you know was similarly priced.

673
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, the rental car prices have gone up so

674
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: much that it behooves you to pay even more close

675
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: attention to that. Whereas before you could save you know, bucks,

676
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: now you can potentially save hundreds and hundreds of dollars

677
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: by booking rental car well, and we actually talked about

678
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: that with Clark Howard recently. Where you know, where you

679
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: fly should be partially termine right now by rental car

680
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: costs on the ground, especially right now, and always booking

681
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Speaker 1: a refundable car immediately upon booking your flight with one

682
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: of the major car rental companies is something that we

683
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Speaker 1: encourage you to do. Basically, it's like having the burden

684
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Speaker 1: the hand, right, so you have this, you at least

685
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: have our rental car booked, even if it costs way

686
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: too much money. But after that, you should be shopping

687
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Speaker 1: rates as you get closer to your trip. You know,

688
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: one excellent way to have someone else do that for

689
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: you is by using a site called auto slash dot com.

690
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Speaker 1: We'll link to that in the show notes too, but

691
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: basically auto slash shops those car rental rates for you, uh,

692
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Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes, so you're not even having

693
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: to put in the effort. It's one of the best

694
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Speaker 1: sites really when it comes to getting a good deal

695
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Speaker 1: on a car that you need while you're sipping around

696
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Speaker 1: on vacation. Yeah, and also consider a company like Turo.

697
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Speaker 1: Right now to you are, Oh, you could save more

698
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Speaker 1: by renting a car from an individual kind of like

699
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: Airbnb style instead of renting from one of the major

700
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: car rental companies. Hopefully the car rental industry gets back

701
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Speaker 1: into a state of normalcy soon where the prices are

702
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: are more predictable, but for the time being, this needs

703
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: to be a major consideration when making your travel plans.

704
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: And also, do you know, kind of consider skipping a

705
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: car rental altogether. There are a lot of alternatives now

706
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: that are available to us, like lift using Uber, even

707
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: just the different micro transportation options available right like EA scooters,

708
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: bike share programs, not to mention just walking. Make sure

709
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: you pack a good pair of walking shoes. And it's

710
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: just it always amazes me at how far I can

711
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: get somewhere if I decided to walk there the same

712
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: distance that I normally run multiple times a week. I'm like, okay,

713
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Speaker 1: Like normally I'll go for like a three mile run, Like,

714
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Speaker 1: how far could I get within the city Where I

715
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: just to walk three miles? Chainces are You're a lot

716
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Speaker 1: closer to a lot of the destinations that you might

717
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: want to check out than you realize. It's just we

718
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: have this disconnect between exercising for fitness and then actually

719
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: walking places we feel that we have to. Oh, like, well,

720
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: how are we going to get there? It's impossible. It's

721
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: like no, there's sidewalks there, There are ways to get

722
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: to the places that we want to get to, plus

723
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Speaker 1: the added serendipity that comes with that kind of travel,

724
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: right man, Yeah, I think walking around a city that

725
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: you're visiting is the best way to get to know

726
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: that city. Like, I much prefer it, even though you

727
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: know we'll walk miles and miles and miles in a

728
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: day when we're visiting someplace but that's how we find

729
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: some of these cool hidden spots. That's how you get

730
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: to know the city in a way that you don't

731
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: otherwise when you're like confined to a taxi cab or yeah,

732
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: because really, oh I have to get to this place.

733
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: Oh we have dinner reservations. But what if you walk

734
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: to that place and then you might pass this amazing

735
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: smelling taco truck and you're like, you know what, let's

736
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Speaker 1: cancel those plans. There's a there's great music over there,

737
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of folks over there like lined

738
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: up for the you know, for those tacos. That sounds

739
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: like what I want to do instead, And so yeah,

740
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: it's just a fun way to approach travel, sort of

741
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: like again with the destinations, it's all about being open,

742
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: it's all about being flexible. Uh. Not only could it

743
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: lead to a lot more fun, but you can also

744
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: save a ton of money as well. And so we've

745
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: got even more things for you to consider when you're

746
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: trying to book a great trip on the cheap, including

747
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Speaker 1: vacation packages. And we'll get to more right after this break.

748
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Speaker 1: All right, we're back. We're talking about how to save

749
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Speaker 1: money on travel and Matt, we're gonna get to booking

750
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Speaker 1: a cruise. Do you need a travel agent. We're gonna

751
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: talk about vacation packages, all that kind of stuff in

752
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: just a second, but let's talk about lodging for a

753
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Speaker 1: second as well. Um, you know, simpler to booking a

754
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: rental car booking, we talked about booking a refundable rental

755
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: car and then shopping around with the service like auto

756
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Slash or even just yourself, like doing the searches to

757
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: see whether prices have dropped or not. Well, booking a

758
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: refundable room can be the best first step when you're

759
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: booking a hotel as well. Right, Hotel Tonight is one

760
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: of the best sites for last minute lodging deals, but

761
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: price line and hotwire are actually my two favorites to

762
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: the best to overall sites in my opinion. For booking

763
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: a hotel room, you can save even more by getting

764
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: like really nerdy and bidding for a hotel on price line.

765
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: That's something not many people do. Part of the reason

766
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Speaker 1: why is because when you bid for a hotel on

767
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: price line, you don't know what hotel you're gonna be

768
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: staying at, and people are like, I don't know about that. Like,

769
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: I kind of want to know where I'm staying. But

770
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Speaker 1: there is a site called bidding for travel dot com.

771
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: They were links in the show notes that can help you.

772
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: It's this old school style message board where people reveal

773
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: the hotels that they've been getting UM and how much

774
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: they got it for, which can help you in in

775
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: your bidding UM and that can save you even more money,

776
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: like I've never paid less for a hotel room than

777
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: I've paid on price line, Like that's just the best

778
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: value mar none if you're bidding. But yeah, Matt, actually

779
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: UM took advantage of price lines like bidding a feature

780
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: back in the day when Emily and I were getting

781
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: married and there were three four star hotel rooms in

782
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: downtown Memphis where we got married, and I knew there

783
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: was one I wanted to stay at. But when I

784
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: looked at the hotel and I looked at all these

785
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: other one third party websites, the best rate I could

786
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: find was something like four UM and I didn't have

787
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: that kind of money or a better yet, I just

788
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to spend that kind of money. And I

789
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: was like, you know, they're all four star hotels, even

790
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: though there's this one I want to stay at I

791
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: have to I'm going to go in this other direction.

792
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: So I did the bidding feature and I ended up

793
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: I think it was like a hundred and sixty dollars

794
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: a night was the price I got, and serendipitously, I

795
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: got the hotel I want. Yes. Yeah, sometimes you can

796
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: kind of like read between the lines a little bit

797
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: and like see what different amenities they offer, and it's

798
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: just like, okay, is that how they talk about what

799
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: it is they offer on their own website? So yeah,

800
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: but that doesn't always work, right, It doesn't. You could

801
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: have ended up at the hotel you didn't want to stay.

802
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: I could have. I could have, but I STI would

803
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: have been okay because I just like that price a

804
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: little bit nice. If it was like aff yell o

805
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: price effors tonight, I probably would have settled uncertainty. But

806
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I was willing to bid in order to get the

807
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: lowest possible price. And so yeah, I always think back

808
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: to that. I feel like the price line gods were

809
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: were on my side when it for you man. Yeah,

810
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: And for the longest time now, it hasn't made a

811
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense to book directly through the hotel

812
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: because these third party sites were far superior when it

813
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: came to saving money, but that isn't as true now

814
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: as it once was, because these hotels are starting to

815
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: realize that they need to price competite of lee and

816
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: so if you want to a specific hotel, check the

817
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: rate on their site as well. And so for instance, Marriott,

818
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: they they've got this best rate guarantee. If you find

819
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: a lower rate and then you submit acclaim form, they

820
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: will give you an additional off which is pretty awesome.

821
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: It's like this price match guarantee. It's like it's like

822
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Walmart our best Buyers something. Uh. And sometimes it helps

823
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: just to you know, pick up the phone actually make

824
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: a phone call. Us millennials have to fight that a

825
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: little bit because we want everything to be online, we

826
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: want it to be easy, but actually with somebody. Now,

827
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Speaker 1: in this case, you probably need to actually make the

828
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: phone call talking with the human. Yeah. Man. You might

829
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: get some helpful information too about what's what of other

830
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: discounts are available that might be difficult to find on

831
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: the website. They might have something that they're offering that

832
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: isn't quite public yet, especially for some of those smaller hotels.

833
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: They don't always publish everything, and they might be like, oh, yeah,

834
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: we got this and this, and if you come at

835
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: this point in time, well you're gonna save this much money.

836
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: You can ask some probing questions and get some helpful

837
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: money saving answers. And and Matt I mentioned trip Advisor earlier,

838
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: but I feel like trip Advisor is also just like

839
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: the best site to that when you're looking for lodging.

840
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: You don't have to book through Triprovisor, although you can,

841
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, especially if you're looking at some of those

842
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: smaller boutique hotels, you know that they're helpful reviews and

843
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: rankings on that site. So yeah, you might even find

844
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: a better hotel um than you were initially planning to

845
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: stay at the guests love, which costs less money per night.

846
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: So you might be like, oh, man, I just found

847
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: a better option than a cooler part of town that

848
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: costs less money than what I was planning on spending.

849
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: And I've had some some success finding really cute hotels

850
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: that are kind of in like a part of town

851
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: that I want to stay in, or maybe some of

852
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: the bigger hotels you know aren't. And yeah, so the

853
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: folks who rate and review on trip Advisor just really

854
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: have a big impact on that. It's a great community

855
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: and it's a great place to really, you know, do

856
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: some research before you decide to book a place to stay.

857
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, cruises, let's talk about those, man. If

858
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: you are a fan of cruises, cruise compete dot com,

859
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: this is probably the best site for booking one and

860
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: getting a deal. Personally, I've never actually been on a cruise,

861
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: but that's where i'd go, uh if I was gonna

862
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: if I was gonna book same here. Also never been

863
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: on Yeah, yeah, and I don't really have a desire

864
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: although maybe I don't know someday will I'm not opposed

865
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: to it, it's just I don't want to do that

866
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: right now and it feels kind of old school and

867
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: guess what, so do these websites. But but that doesn't

868
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: mean that you can't get some great savings from cruise

869
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: compete dot com. There's this other side as well, cruise

870
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: critic dot com. That's another great side if you're trying

871
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: to get just you know, educated, if you're trying to

872
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: learn all about taking a cruise. Also, timing plays a

873
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: big role here. The best time to to get a

874
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: cruise is typically the period between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Uh.

875
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: And you might even want to consult a travel agent

876
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: if it's your first time booking a cruise, just so

877
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: that you can make sure that you're able to get

878
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: the experience that you're looking for. It all depends on

879
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: how much time you're willing to invest in this little

880
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: vacation of yours. Yeah, you could educate yourself to the

881
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: max and then you know, put your your own cruise

882
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: and save some money. But um, there's a lot to learn,

883
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: and you can make a big mistake and you could

884
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: be stuck on a ship that you aren't really excited

885
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: to be on for a week or ten days or

886
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, and and that would be a travesty.

887
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, booking using a travel agent might make the

888
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: most sense, especially for newbie cruisers. Match it's probably the

889
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: tact I would take it into going on my first one,

890
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: so I didn't screw it up and end up hating

891
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: my life for a week. So let's continue talking about

892
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: travel agents for for for just a little bit longer. Right, Um,

893
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: it feels like travel agents feel like this thing that

894
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: old school people used to do, and now we just

895
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: book our own travel directly. It's simpler, it's easier, and

896
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: we have all the control. But I think it can

897
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: be worth hiring someone to help you plan and book

898
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: a trip, especially like let's say you're going in a

899
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: larger group, or you're taking a lengthy trip that includes

900
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot of like planes, trains, and automobiles, Like you're

901
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: hopping all over the place. You're hitting a bunch of

902
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: different and different types of transportation, maybe like a biplane,

903
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, you're gonna parasale somewhere too,

904
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: um tug boat and tugboat travel agents got your back

905
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: on that. So yeah, it's it's important to ask, if

906
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: you're going to use a travel agent, how they get paid.

907
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: And if they say that you don't have to pay

908
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: them a dime, well, then it means that they're making

909
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: commissions from the vendors that they work with. So the

910
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: hotel that you're staying at might get they might get

911
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: a nice kick back from that hotel, and so yeah,

912
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: their decisions for you might be based on what's in

913
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: their best interest. You just want to make sure you

914
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: know that ahead of time. But if you are in

915
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: that position and you think a travel agent might make

916
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: the most sense, for you. Travel sense dot org is

917
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: a site that's worth checking out if you feel like

918
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: you need that expert advice to kind of help you

919
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: with planning your trip, because I love planning trips, Matt,

920
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: but it can be a little daunting, it can be

921
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: a little overwhelming. I think I saw a stat like

922
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: the average person spends something like thirty hours planning a

923
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: trip and they go to something like thirty eight different websites.

924
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: So it is intense to plan a big trip and

925
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of time. But honestly, for me,

926
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a big part of the fund,

927
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to miss out on that, dude. Absolutely, Yeah,

928
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: And you know, like a different a site like that,

929
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: Like they'll say that they can save you some money

930
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: as well, but let's be honest, I think the biggest

931
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: advantage is the fact that it's convenient, Like you don't

932
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: have to spend a ton of time on it, and

933
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with paying for convenience sometimes if you

934
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: know what you're getting into, if you know what you're

935
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: getting into, and of course if you have the money

936
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: to spend. But like, yeah, like you said too, if

937
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: a large if you're looking at traveling with a larger group,

938
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: or if you're looking at it like a non English

939
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: speaking country or just somewhere that's really off the beaten path.

940
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: I think it's like like travel suce dot org would

941
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: definitely come in handy. And also let's talk about vacation packages,

942
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, like all inclusive kind of deal, Like you

943
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: buy this package and it includes travel, include your lodging,

944
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: different little perks that they throw in as well. That's

945
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: like my little sister's favorite way to travel value right, Well,

946
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: these could be a good deal. Often you are going

947
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: to say the most by booking everything directly yourself, but

948
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: like we said, that can also be the most labor

949
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: intensive way to book travel, and so these packages might

950
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: be honestly just sort of like a stop gap. It's

951
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: like halfway between doing everything yourself and then going with

952
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: a full on agent that is also going to cost

953
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot more. But Costco Travel, have you ever done

954
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: any packages through Costco Travel? I've been checking them out

955
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: recent now that I'm a Costco member. I'm like, Oh,

956
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: what what all do they have to offer? Which I

957
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: am so proud of you for that. No, I've definitely

958
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: perused them before, but I've never actually pounced on one

959
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: of those Costco travel trips, but they're well reviewed and

960
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of amazing the different packages. If

961
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: you're interested in booking a trip without making you know

962
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: all that trip planning like your part time job, and

963
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: so if you're a costco member, it might be worth

964
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: checking to see what they offer before you start to

965
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: piecemeal your own trip together because in the end, wow,

966
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: if they have something that's pretty much exactly like what

967
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: you would have planned for yourself, well why not go

968
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: with that package? And there truly might be some serious

969
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: discounts built into that package because they're taking advantage of

970
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: scale and their ability to offer that at a discount

971
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: to their members, no doubt. There's a few more tips

972
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: we gotta get you, Matt. Let's talk about travel insurance.

973
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: Depending on what's going on in your life, travel insurance

974
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: is a purchase that could end up saving you a

975
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: lot of money in the end if you aren't able

976
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: to take the trip that you've booked. So we would

977
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: suggest to make sure to shop for that travel insurance

978
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: any third party site. Oftentimes, Matt, people get their travel

979
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: insurance when they're booking their airfare. They're buying a product

980
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: that's told by the airline, and we would say no, no,

981
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: don't do that, Go get your own policy right instead,

982
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: And so yes, it's like square mouth and Ensure my

983
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: trip are great for getting your own policy. Look at

984
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: the fine print and make sure that your policy, the

985
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: pilot policy you're buying, will cover any possible reason that

986
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: you are likely to cancel. The worst place to be

987
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: stuck in is when you can't go on a trip

988
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: but your policy doesn't cover the specific reason that you're canceling.

989
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that you're not cheaping out,

990
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: that you're buying the insurance that's going to cover every

991
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: possible reason for cancelation if you need it. Yeah, really,

992
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: I'll find print regarding pandemic related cancelations, right because a

993
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of folks found themselves in this position spring of

994
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: last year. Also, another quick tip, use the right credit card,

995
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: because booking a big trip can be the perfect time

996
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: to add a new card into your life, into your

997
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: financial life. You can take advantage of a sweet sign

998
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: up bonus because maybe you're about to drop a decent

999
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: chunk of money on that trip. Right that being said,

1000
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: of course, you want to make sure that you have

1001
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: the cash on hand to pay that balance off in

1002
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: full when the bill does come due. But that new

1003
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: card that can allow you to travel for free or

1004
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: at least for much cheaper. I can also offer other

1005
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: travel benefits that you you may not have considered, like

1006
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: a rental car insurance. A lot of them have zero

1007
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: foreign transaction fees. Regardless. You want to make sure that

1008
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: you're not using a card that's gonna charge you every

1009
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: time you swipe when you're traveling. Some cards to have

1010
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: that free lounge access if you're into that kind of thing,

1011
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: to say, pre check status is included sometimes for free,

1012
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: a lot of different things like that. And so definitely

1013
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: put your trip expenses on a credit card for those perks,

1014
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: but again only if you have the cash to pay

1015
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: off that balance in full. Yeah. Another tip man I

1016
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: want to mention, and I think you briefly handed at

1017
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: it earlier, was is to tell people just to go

1018
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: on a longer trip. You're talking about your your two

1019
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: weeks back to back at the beach, and hell you're

1020
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: able to complete, yeah, unplug in a better way than

1021
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: if it was just a shorter trip exactly. And so

1022
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: I think you know for that reason a longer trip

1023
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: is really helpful. But for another reason is that longer

1024
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: travel actually helps save you money. Right we we We

1025
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: talked about this actually with Nomadic Matt not too too

1026
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: long ago. But yeah, this doesn't work for everyone's schedule,

1027
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: and not everyone even wants to travel like this. But

1028
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: when one round trip plane ticket allows you to explore

1029
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: an entire country or even a region by spending three

1030
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: weeks or a month or or even longer, well, it

1031
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: lowers the cost per day dramatically. Um. Instead of staying

1032
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: in hotels, you can stay in a cheap airbnb, or

1033
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: you can stay in a variety of different low cost places.

1034
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, basically the discounts on long term lodging can

1035
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: be substantial. So yeah, we would say booking for a

1036
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: month instead of a week, going on a longer trip

1037
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: can have just all these money saving effects. Um. And

1038
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: it can actually help you unplug in a better way.

1039
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: So don't be afraid to travel longer than just a

1040
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: week long vacation, which I feel like it's kind of

1041
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: the norm in the States. Um. And you know, I

1042
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: don't take a page out of the book of the

1043
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: offseas or the Germans, and and and go on like

1044
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 1: a little bit longer of a trip. Yeah, and again,

1045
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean transportation costs are often the most expensive part

1046
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: of traveling, right, And so if you're constantly just hopping

1047
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: from one city to the next, if you're in Europe,

1048
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: if you're taking the plane every couple of days to

1049
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: get to a new city, or or even taking a train, like,

1050
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: all that adds up. And if you can what nomatic

1051
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: mat said was basically travel slower, right, And so if

1052
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: you can stay in a city for longer, take your time,

1053
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: don't spend all of your money on transportation, but instead

1054
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: get to know a place, uh, hang out a little bit.

1055
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: Hopefully you will not only save money, but find that

1056
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: you are able to enjoy yourself a lot more as well.

1057
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: And so we feel that this litany of travel tips

1058
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: is going to help you the next time that you

1059
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: attempt to book your next getaway. And it's worth mentioning

1060
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: that being company loyal like that's going to cost you money.

1061
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: Right if you only fly one specific airline, or if

1062
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: you're only willing to stay at a particular hotel chain,

1063
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole lot harder to save money

1064
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: on your trip. The overarching maxim that we're going to

1065
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: basically keep repeating here is flexibility. This is another area

1066
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: where flexibility is going to be crucial in order to

1067
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: save money when you're taking a trip. Not only does

1068
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: that apply to where you go when you go, but

1069
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: also just the different companies that you do business with. Yeah. Man,

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Speaker 1: I remember a coworker and a friend coming to me

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Speaker 1: one time asking me how to save money on a trip.

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Speaker 1: And he was very staunch in the company so he

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Speaker 1: wanted to do business with and the dates he wanted

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Speaker 1: to go. And I was like, I'm sorry, man, if

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Speaker 1: you if you can't be a little more flexible on

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Speaker 1: some of these things, like a lot we can do

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Speaker 1: for you. I showed him, Hey, this other airline has

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Speaker 1: a much lower fare on these dates that are close

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Speaker 1: to when you're going, Like would you be willing to

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Speaker 1: do this? And he's like nah, And I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well the price is the price. Then if if you're

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Speaker 1: not willing to be flexible in that way, So You're right,

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Speaker 1: flexibility is key. It's really um when it comes down

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Speaker 1: to it. The number one word we would say is

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Speaker 1: the crux of saving money on travel. It all comes

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00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: down to being flexible absolutely. All right. Well, um, let's

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Speaker 1: get back to the beer that we had on this episode. Mat.

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Speaker 1: This one was called Vaca Daydream, And since you know

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Speaker 1: we're talking about taking a vacation, I feel like this

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00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: was the perfect beer to have on this episode. This

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Speaker 1: one is by Pipe Works Brewing Company. What was your

1092
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: take on this beer? Yeah? On the front, I'll just

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00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: mention the label here real quick. It's got a like

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Speaker 1: they include a unicorn like in a lot of their branding,

1095
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: like a lot of their different beers. There's like a

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00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: unicorn in it somehow, and there's a you know, this

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00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: unicorn sitting there like a tropical the Island shirt, just

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00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: sitting there watching TV, watching an island on TV. He's

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Speaker 1: like he wants to go. But they're trying to infuse

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Speaker 1: some of those vibes into this beer as well. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And they also loaded it up with just all the

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Speaker 1: different tropical kinds of flavors. What's the there's that avery

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Speaker 1: beer with the like the tiki Tiki guy. It kind

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00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: of reminds me of that what it It's like mango

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00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: and passion fruit I think in that one. But is

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Speaker 1: that a Belgian? I think that's like a Belgian or

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00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: something like that. This kind of has like Belgian wit

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Speaker 1: flavors to a certain extent. It's it's it's a little

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Speaker 1: herbally and kind of once you infuse some of those

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Speaker 1: tropical flavors like that. This is probably the least tasting

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Speaker 1: Hazy I p a I think I've ever had. But

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I thought it was okay, Like it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a little it's a little weird, um like

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Speaker 1: maybe too many vacation vibes thrust into this beer. Um.

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Speaker 1: I do like the pineapple vibe that that was going on,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like it was a bit maybe too

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Speaker 1: much lacto and coconut that just kind of like muddled

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Speaker 1: up some of the flavors for me. Um, I'll say

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Speaker 1: it's it's decent, but not, you know, not not one

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Speaker 1: of the top beers we've ever had on the show.

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Speaker 1: Especially about Pipe Works too, because they make some really

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00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: really good stuff. And yeah, I guess my expectations were

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Speaker 1: high to before them. I would expected something a bit more,

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Speaker 1: but just across the board, I thought it was pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: And it includes Sabro hops as well. Uh, and that

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00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: naturally has a coconut like flavor profile going on. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they added coconut on top of

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Speaker 1: the sabro hops, because you can get a dry hoped

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Speaker 1: I p A or whatever, just a double hazy with

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00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: Sabro hops with no fruit added, and it'll taste coconutti.

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Speaker 1: So if they added coconut on top of those hops,

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Speaker 1: I think that could have lent to the heavy handedness

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Speaker 1: of those tropical flavors. But yeah, they're not all the

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00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: perfect beer. They're not all grain slams, are they. No. No,

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Speaker 1: we drink a lot of good ones, and sometimes even

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00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: one that's good. Let's me down a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: that's okay. I still have hypeworks and leve a lot

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Speaker 1: of the beers they put out, But that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for this episode. Yeah, you can find our show

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Speaker 1: notes up on our website how to money dot com. Again,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned obviously a ton of resources and websites in

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Speaker 1: this episode. They will all be up there and linked

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00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: for you, so you can kind of like, yeah, go

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00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: through those resources as you're planning your next trip, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully you're able to save a ton of money when

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Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, you can bookmark it, which nobody ever

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Speaker 1: does anymore. That's right, and if you've been listening for

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Speaker 1: a while, we would love it if you were to

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: let others know how much you enjoy the show. Head

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00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: over to Apple Podcasts, where you can leave us a

1152
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: solid review over there, help us to get the word out,

1153
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Speaker 1: as we're on a mission to help others to hang

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Speaker 1: on to more the money, especially when they're looking to travel.

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Speaker 1: So Joel, that's gonna be it for this episode, Buddy.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,