1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about another Nicole who does autopsies, 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: apparently this time it's Nicole Kidman. She talks all about 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: her new role in the upcoming what is it a 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: series of Scarpetta Patricia Cornwell's Scarpetta. Then we'll get into 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: a math teacher who is accused of making really bizarre 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: quiz questions, fat shaming students. A woman on TikTok who 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: was documenting her mommy makeover surgery, and she either died 10 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: or is on hospice and about to die. The news 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: reports are contradicting each other, but she's not doing well 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: after how this surgery. Then we'll talk about an urgent 13 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: warning from an obgyn she has for us about pantyliners. 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: And we'll finish up the episode talking about how the 15 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: government is known for decades apparently that there's a cure 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: for cancer, but it's been hidden, So we'll see if 17 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: that's a legitimate thing. All that and more on today's episode, Are. 18 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: You pissed about Nicole Kidman stealing your Spotlin Well? 19 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: I do appreciate that she would go to the extra 20 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: effort of actually watching autopsies, because I feel like a 21 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: lot of these shows don't do that, and it just 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: drives me freaking crazy how terrible it is. But at 23 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: the same time, I'm pissed about it for a reason 24 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: you would think I'm not pissed about it, because when 25 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: you know, especially towards the end of working full time 26 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: and doing autopsies all the time, I would have nurses 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: that worked in the hospital that I worked at that 28 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: would want to see an autopsy because they were like, oh, 29 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: I might be interested in going to school for this, 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: and they said, dude to privacy, like you can't watch 31 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: an autopsy anymore. So when I first started back in 32 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: the day, I used to have people come watch autopsies 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: all the time, like students that were in community college 34 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: that were interested, like anybody that was interested in coming 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: or just learning about it, because I feel like students 36 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: might decide they want to do that for a living, 37 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: or decide they won't do that for a living, Like 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: for example, I had a nursing student who almost passed 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: out when I pulled a fixed placenta. So it was 40 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: informal and already and it wasn't It was like more 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: of a gray color. It wasn't the bloody fresh thing 42 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: you would. 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: Say, Christ to me, I could even handle sea. 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And she turned white and looked 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: like she was going to pass out, And like, sometimes 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: you need to have that literal, visceral experience to know 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: if you're going to be able to handle the field, 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: because it is very gory, right, And I was thinking, 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: like God, working with live body parts isn't even as 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: gross as a human being and all the weird bodily 51 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: functions that you're gonna have to deal with being a nurse, right, 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: So you and then you want people that work their 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: surgeons and things like that, you want them to see 54 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: an autopsy because they have experience to anatomy. They get 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: to know what we're doing, what we're looking for and stuff. 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: So it's it's good to have people in the profession 57 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: viewing an autopsy. But so like, especially towards the tail 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: end of me working there full time, it was like 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: the hippo was getting to be a very big thing. 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: And then and then with COVID, forget it, Like, so 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: I have people email me all the time that they 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: want to do this. And before I used to say, oh, 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: call this person and they'll let you come in and 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: view an autopsy, and now it's like very hard to do. 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: So I'm like, unless you're Nicole Kidman and making a film, 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: then you're allowed to see one Like that kind of 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: pisses me off because it's like not really necessary for 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: for like the advancement of medicine. 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Is it possible though, that she did the training with 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: the medical examiner she spoke of, like she lives in 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Australia or New Zealand, right, so like, is it possible 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: she did it elsewhere where it might be legal still. 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, or not be as held. It's totally possible, Like 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: she could have done it anywhere, but I don't know 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: how the laws are and other like obviously some countries 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: aren't going to be as strict as others, but I'm 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: pretty sure like Australia and UK are are pretty in 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 2: line with where we are as far as that goes 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: with patient privacy and things like that. 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: So so yeah, she's gonna be in this show Scarpetta 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: coming out playing a forensic pathologist. And then she went 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: on Jimmy Fallon, who she said he asked her if 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: she would do an autopsy on air, which, like, I 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: know he was kidding, but that's not possible. It's not 85 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: like Doctor Bodden show back in the nineties, right and 86 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: on that show. Did I never watched it. Did they 87 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: show like a legit autopsy or was it all dramatic? 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: It wasn't. I don't. 89 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't. 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: I haven't watched it in a very long time. But 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: I believe it was real cases, and I believe it 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't like remember like Doctor g was 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: all dramatized. It was real cases, but it was all 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: like everything was changed and it was like fake blood 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: and stuff. I think the autopsy show was like actual work, 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: not set up, and it wasn't like dramatized. I don't think. 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: I think there were things that were like blurred out 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: and stuff. I just remember watching it as being a 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: PA doing autopsy already and being like, oh, this shows 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: like legit. It's not like fluffed at all. 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: Are you gonna watch it at all? To make sure 102 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: her technique is accurate, because she's claiming she could remove lungs, liver, gallbladder, 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: and testine. She can name all the Organs. Are you 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna call her bluff? 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, because I just because you could take 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: them out doesn't make you a genius, like anybody could 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: cut them out. But are you doing it right? I 108 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: don't know, but I'm sure I mean it. It is 109 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 2: good for her to look at it because they're gonna 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: have dummy bodies that she's gonna be doing it, and 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: she should at least like semi like act. 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: Like she knows what she's doing right, So I'm interested 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: in the show. One time we got an email about 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: possibly having Patricia Cornwell on our show, and I think 115 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: do the scheduling. It didn't work out, but I think 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: that would be super cool to have her on to 117 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: talk about her. She's an amazing writer. 118 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: Well she and she actually did in turn, I believe, 119 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: at a medical examiner and and got that's where she 120 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: got a lot of her experience from. For writing these things. 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like all fake, it's like legit. 122 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: She did the work. 123 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the stories, the story, the stories that 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: she writes about her fiction. But she she was witnessed 125 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: to the procedures of it. It's not like she's just 126 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: making it up. 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: So one comment. I want to make though. This all 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: screenshot of Jamie Lee Curtis in the show, and her 129 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: outfits are a little. 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Outrageous, So like I need to know what's going on. 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: What is listen? Like, I don't know what's up with her, 132 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: but I saw this picture that she posted recently that 133 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: was like a selfie and it was just like a 134 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: little weird. She's a little weird, like like she she 135 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: was like kind of showing her brawl. But I'm like, 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: you're like kind of I mean, I don't see it 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: necessary for anybody to do that, honestly, but I was 138 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: kind of like, you're like a grandma kind of age like, 139 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: what are you what's happening right now? 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, why are you age shaming her? Yeah, 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean she's she's a really great actress and everything 142 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: she's taking on like more unusual roles as time goes by. 143 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested to watch the show. I think I'm 144 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna watch it. We should watch it and recap it 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: on YouTube live because that's a better place for it. 146 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: And then everybody on there likes chime in with their 147 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: opinions too, So to our core group that's on there, 148 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: aka the real ones watch along with us, and then 149 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: we will try to recap it as best as we can. 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: Well, maybe I say, I haven't even watched you can 151 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: I I haven't even watched a love story yet. I 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna like I. I've been hearing the highlights, 153 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to like it because it seems 154 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: like it's not actually what's happening, what actually really happened. 155 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: No, it's not even kind of close to the real story. 156 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm just enjoying it as a show. If you can 157 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: separate what really happened, it should have been like said it, Well, 158 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: I guess in some capacity it says it's inspired by 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: true events and they don't know what the actual conversations were. 160 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: But like when I think about watching The Crown, for example, 161 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: which is done in a similar way, Obviously they don't 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: know the private conversation's happening when Queen Elizabeth finds out 163 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: that Prince Philip is like lusting after a ballerina, Right, 164 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: they don't know what the private conversations, but they do 165 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: it in a really good way. This I feel the 166 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: acting is getting worse as the weeks go by, not 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: necessarily by the actress Sarah Pigeon playing Carolyn Bassett. I 168 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: think she's a really good actress, but like everybody else 169 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: is kind. 170 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: Of just awful a little bit. 171 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 172 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: I enjoy it visually. I'm enjoying it. But I saw 173 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: I saw a video. I don't know who made it. 174 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: It was like it was a social media video and 175 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: it was somebody who was saying that they thought that 176 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: the actress that played Daryl Hannah was so terrible. She's like, 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: who was saying? And she was just like, I don't 178 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: really I didn't even really know who Daryl Hannah was. 179 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: And then she watched and then I watched her. She 180 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: watches a clip of her earth that she was on 181 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: some late night TV show and she's like, oh my god, 182 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 2: that like I can't even believe that that person actually 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: talks like that and acts like that. 184 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, Daryl Hannah just released an article and she's really 185 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: pissed about her portrayal in the show. 186 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: Well, so is so is everyone. Isn't the Kennedy family 187 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: too like this is not Well, of course they're all 188 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: gonna be buttered about it, but they're always liked that 189 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: no matter what happened. So like I'm not surprised with that, 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: but like, yeah, she's really pissed about her portrayal in there. 191 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: I also just think it's just totally fabricated, like it's 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: glorified this relationship that was documented as being totally like aggressive, 193 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: borderline abusive. I don't understand the angle Ryan Murphy decided 194 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: to take with this. 195 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: It's very unusual, but like, if you could separate the 196 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: truth from just what you're watching, it could be enjoyable. 197 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: All right, well I'll put that on the list with 198 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: the with the Autopsy show. 199 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: All right, so five years later you'll watch yeah, all right. 200 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: A math teacher has been placed on indefinitely after being 201 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: accused of using fat shaming and sexist questions on his 202 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: quizzes for ninth graders. 203 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: It is, like, I understand, so I guess they were 204 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: saying that this teacher's been here for twenty years, and 205 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: it's been he always makes jokes and he's been doing 206 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: this forever, and all. 207 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Of a sudden, corny dad jokes. 208 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is. I guess I could see why 209 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: people are all upset though, because one of the examples 210 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: was like the amount of money you would spend on 211 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: a date varies depending on how much they weigh. Like 212 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: if a person weighs this much, how much would you 213 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: spend on the date versus if they weighed this much? 214 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, it says a typical girl weighs one hundred and 215 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: twenty pounds, and it's like, who do you know that 216 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: weighs one hundred and twenty pounds? 217 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Well, and I guess you could see that because kids, 218 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: especially girls, are you know, they're very insecure about their 219 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: weights sometimes, and that would have like, you know, I'd 220 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: be sitting there like, oh cool, Well, like I'm pushing 221 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: like you know, one seventy five or whatever, like that's 222 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: that makes me feel like shit, Like I'm not I 223 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: haven't been one hundred twenty pounds since I was in 224 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: sixth grade. Like that's how I feel. But like that's 225 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: just me and I'm nuts, but but serious, Like I 226 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: could see that. But and I could see that he 227 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: was he you know, sometimes I don't cause men don't 228 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: really think that way themselves most of the time. They 229 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: don't really understand how sensitive it is. And I think 230 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: that's especially like an older dude probably just didn't really 231 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: like realize that that might like hurt somebody's feelings. I don't. 232 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: I think if he's been there for twenty years and 233 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: he always makes jokes, it's just kind of like, I 234 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: don't think he needs to be on leave for it. 235 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: But ninth grade is so vulnerable if you're going to 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: be putting out, like a typical girl weighs one twenty, 237 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: So how much would your date costs if they weighed 238 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: to twenty, especially when so many kids are overweight and 239 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: OB's today. 240 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 241 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: I feel like as a ninth grade girl, I would 242 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: be like, I'm not one twenty and I haven't been 243 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: since I was nine years old, so like, what's wrong 244 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: with me that I'm not a regular girl? But then 245 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: there's some question I agree with you, like it seems 246 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: a little harsh, But then they were saying there was 247 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: non related math questions asked like how tall are you? 248 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: How much do you weigh? 249 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Followed by are you pretty or smart? And why? And 250 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: like a lot of the kids were playing in office. 251 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: He's just like making corny dad jokes. 252 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: But I guess some. 253 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: People are really offended by it. 254 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know. I don't think it's not 255 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: like to me, it's not the hugest deal I would 256 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: just be like, that's kind of weird, and you know, yeah, 257 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: don't I think he needs to talk into like, yo, dude, 258 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: like you got girls that are like yeah, but I mean, 259 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: is it any different than them going on social media? 260 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean honestly they see worship. 261 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but social media is like the wild West of behavior, 262 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: Like this is the teacher. 263 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: I guess. 264 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by the grocer Room guys. 265 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Don't forget that. 266 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: Every single week we do a YouTube live episode exclusive 267 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: for Grocerroom members, and it's about an hour to an 268 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: hour and a half episode of us just being like 269 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: this show but a little bit more even inappropriate. 270 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: It's still talking about more social media based stuff. 271 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 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Yeah, 287 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: So so all that and more in the Gross Room. 288 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: Check that out. 289 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Head over to the grossroom dot com now to sign up. 290 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: All right, so this Mommy Makeover death has been going 291 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: viral and and like she might not be dead or 292 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: she might be dead. Isn't it kind of crazy how 293 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: the news like will just straight up report things like 294 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: that that aren't confirmed. 295 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just conflicting reports about whether she's still on 296 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: hospice or if she actually has died. Obviously, if somebody's 297 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: on hospice, it looks it's has anybody like gone on 298 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: hospice and come off yes, Actually, okay, so like there 299 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: are graduate from hospice, there are cases of it, but 300 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: like not probable that she's going to survive based on that. 301 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: But she had this tummy tuck gone wrong and it's 302 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: extra disturbing because she was documenting her whole experience leading 303 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: up to the case or leading up to the surgery, 304 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: and then the morning of the surgery she posted her 305 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: last video, and then a couple of days later, her 306 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: husband followed it up basically telling her followers that something 307 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: went wrong and that she's not doing okay. 308 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: So I guess she said that she was having a 309 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: mommy makeover surgery, which just is just to be like specific, 310 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: is a lot more intense than just having a tummy tuck, 311 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: because you're you're getting your breast either you're getting like implants, 312 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: or you're getting a reduction or a lift or something 313 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: like that. So it's like you're kind of having two 314 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: major surgeries at the same time. 315 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: Do you think she had that or she just mislabeled 316 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: the tummy tuck as the mommy makeover? Well, a mom 317 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: typically when you say a mommy makeover, it's like everything 318 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: that affects your body during pregnancy, so your boobs and 319 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: your abdomen, like your whole mid section. Basically, a lot 320 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: of people get that done at the same time. It's 321 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: not like unheard of to get that surgery done, so 322 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: but it usually consists of like those two things, like 323 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of the extra hanging skin on your stomach 324 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and fixing your boobs if they're they're you know, and 325 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: it's usually not just implants because usually your boobs get 326 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: big when you're pregnant and then they shrink down and 327 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: then they're like hanging and sagging, so you have to 328 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: get like even additional surgery to reconstruct and like lift 329 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: them up. So I don't know exactly if she had 330 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: all that done, but that just is like an extra 331 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: thing to know because that could put extra strain on 332 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: the body as well. Sometimes people decide to do them 333 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: in two different procedures because it's a lot to handle 334 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: having a lot of incisions on your body at one time, 335 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and you know, but then other people just want to 336 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: whip it out at once. And just to be clear, 337 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: like these procedures, because they're cosmetic, are not done in 338 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: a hospital, right. They're done in like an outpatient facility like. 339 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: A surgery center usually. Yeah, so I don't think that 340 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: that's that big of a deal because they're done every 341 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: single day with no issues. I think, I mean, based 342 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: upon what we hear from what happened with the husband 343 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: she had the complications done. And then I hate when 344 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: they say they say the surgeon said to her, like 345 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: the actual surgery itself was successful, and it's just like 346 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: fuck you, who cares? Like my wife is like dying? 347 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Who cares? Like what's the point of even saying that? 348 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: But like. 349 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: Exactly so so, like it didn't happen during the surgery. 350 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: She had the surgery, came out of the surgery and 351 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: was talking to him apparently, but then like was saying 352 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: she was in pain, and he claims and he's he 353 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: says this right out loud. I think he's like a 354 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: mechanic or a construction worker. He's just like, I don't 355 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: know anything about medicine. Like, all I know is that 356 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: they came in and gave her medicine, and like she 357 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: she seemed to be like really out of it, and 358 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: I thought she didn't look good at all, And and 359 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: he had to bring it to the nurse's attention, like, Hi, 360 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: why is she like white and look like she's passed 361 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: out and you. 362 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: Know, not responding when he was calling her name, yeah. 363 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: And and and and then what happened after that was 364 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: that whoever was monitoring her had then called the doctor 365 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: and then the doctor was like, you should call nine 366 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: one one, and then they did. And it's just like, like, 367 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: I guess the procedure needs to be looked at as 368 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: far as what happens because people are gonna have complications 369 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: and stuff. And maybe I guess because it was so 370 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: far post surgery that he was in the window of 371 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: time that he could have left. And I'm not sure 372 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: who was watching her at that time, like what their 373 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: qualifications were. 374 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: Did you also notice that the husband said, like after 375 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: before NIMA one was called, they tried CPR on her 376 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: and they also grabbed narcan. 377 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because if she was if they gave her 378 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 2: too much opioid medication, if that's what they were giving her. 379 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, just I never thought about that, I guess with 380 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: the painkillers or giving these people after surgeries. 381 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just I really don't. I don't know. 382 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: This would be it. This would be a good question 383 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 2: for for a nurse anesthesis if anybody's listening, so so 384 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: I would assume then if if she's in a recovery 385 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: room and she's getting IVY medication, like nurses cand give 386 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: that IVY medication, but the person that's there as like 387 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: the one in charge has to be. 388 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: A nurse. 389 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if a nurse anesthetist could do that 390 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: all by their self without the supervision of a doctor 391 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: there too, But there has to be like someone there 392 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: in charge. You can't just have like a nurse giving 393 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: a patient opioid medication and that's it. So either the 394 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: one that they're saying gave CPR and stuff was an 395 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: actual nurse anesthetis or the doctor left and wasn't supposed 396 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: to have left yet. 397 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so she ends up getting brought to the hospital 398 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: and then they told the husband there that she was 399 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: without oxygen for six whole minutes. 400 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean she's and that's the thing, like 401 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: she's on life support. But the chance of her coming 402 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: back from that in anoxic brain injury is I mean, 403 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: this is actually horrible because it's almost better if somebody 404 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: just dies, because because it's like. 405 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: Why, like, yeah, you know, I'm living in that terrible 406 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: limbo for god knows how well. Like I mean, I 407 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: guess we don't fully know one hundred percent if she 408 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: has died or not because the news reports are so conflicting. 409 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: But like to think that her family has to watch 410 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: her living in this vegetative state and. 411 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Just not knowing when it's gonna happen. It's a horrible 412 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: and and listen, like just because I mean, like, listen, 413 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: there's a high probability that it was a medication error, 414 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: especially like it is interesting that they would try to 415 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: use narcan, I guess because if they gave her the 416 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: normal dosage of what she was supposed to have, then 417 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: technically like she shouldn't be overdosing on it. 418 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, like, but now, but I don't 419 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if the narcan seemed suspicious, like they 420 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: almost knew or something that they yeah, something wrong, and yeah, 421 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: and that's that's possible, another possibility, especially so typically I know, 422 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: when I got my tummy tuck, I feel like they 423 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: did the actual surgery, which is like pulling down your 424 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: skin and tightening, but they also did like a little 425 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: bit of light bo on the sides, which is now 426 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: just totally gone by. 427 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: The way, but like it looks good when I got 428 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: it done. Anyway, So when you do LiPo suction, you're 429 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: always at an increased risk for having like a fat 430 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: embolism or something like that, but not like really on 431 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: the flanks and stuff like that. It's it's most commonly 432 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: like what happen during one of those Brazilian butt lift procedures. Possibly, 433 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: but you're al you're always at a risk of having 434 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: a complication when you have any kind of surgery. So 435 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: the fact that something happened is is, you know, don't 436 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: believe that all of these people, that these famous people 437 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: we see get surgeries and stuff that they don't have 438 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: any complications because they do. It's just like, yeah, I 439 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: mean it's this lad. 440 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: He was forty seven years old, and like I just 441 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: feel like this is obviously really young for something like 442 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: this to happen, and like obviously doesn't seem likely she's 443 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: coming out of it. So I feel horrible for the family. Yeah, 444 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: it's it is terrible, especially like I feel like when 445 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: you go into that, you know there's a risk, But 446 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: if you have a medical problem, like you had a 447 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: heart attack or something like they didn't know your heart 448 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: was weak, then it's kind of like okay, like she 449 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: took the risk and whatever, but if it's if it's 450 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: a mistake, that that just makes it worse knowing that 451 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: that that didn't have to happen, you know, and and 452 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: it just kind of sucks from the husband's perspective because. 453 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: He's just kind of like, if I'm a construction worker 454 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: and I knew something was wrong, Like why didn't they 455 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: know something's wrong? Like minutes count in those situations. 456 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. 457 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: And if they if they were really trained to give 458 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: her CPR and stuff, which they should have been, That's 459 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying they'll do. They'll do an autopsy on 460 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: her to see what happened, because if they did give 461 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: her too much opioid medication and they gave her an 462 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: arcan and she didn't respond to it, then she could 463 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: have been having like a pulmonary or something. It just 464 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: so happened to happen around the same time, like she 465 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: could have had another complication, you know. So they'll do 466 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: the autopsy to see exactly what the cause of death was. 467 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: They'll do toxicology to see what her levels were and everything, 468 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: and then they'll figure it out. And I'm sure, I 469 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: mean even if she's dead already. I don't even know 470 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: if she's dead already, and they'll figure it out. 471 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: And they hired a lawyer, which I'm gonna say is 472 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: probably the right call for now. Obviously, if the autopsy yeah, 473 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: it was something other. 474 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no it is. It is like it it 475 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 2: doesn't sound good based upon how we're hearing it, but 476 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: like it just could be something else, all right. 477 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: And obgui N took to social media to issue a 478 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: warning about pantyliner abuse after one of her patients revealed 479 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: that she uses them every day. 480 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know how whenever they try to tell 481 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: you to have the best like bad health, you should 482 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: wear Caughton breatheable underwear and you know, don't wear satin 483 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: and this and that. Well the reason is is because 484 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: you want but there to be good airflow. And I 485 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: guess this doctor is saying that. I mean, it makes 486 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: sense that the pads have this plastic at the bottom 487 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: of them, so they're you know, they could absorb fluid 488 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: and not get your your panties wet, right, And also 489 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: it's got glue and stuff, but that's making the barrier 490 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: very solid and there's not like air being able to 491 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: flow through. So she was saying that it's good to 492 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: wear them once in a while, but you don't. You 493 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: certainly should not be wearing them every day. It just 494 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: and when you do, you should be changing it every 495 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: four to six hours. It just increases your risk of 496 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: bacterial vaginosis and other like yeast infections especially, and then 497 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna cause yourself to get more discharge 498 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: that might be foul smelling. Like if you're there's just 499 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: no reason that you need to be wearing them every day. 500 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, because like obviously people use them for their periods 501 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: and stuff. But they were saying, like some women are 502 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: wearing them for like excessive discharge, But I'm like, how much, 503 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: Like don't you think that's like an issue in itself 504 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: if you're having that much daily discharge that you feel 505 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: like you need to wear it. 506 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like I 507 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: went through a period like years ago when I was 508 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: having like all these like bleed like you know, heavy 509 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: into the periods and stuff that I would just like 510 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: bleed randomly like in between my period, So like I 511 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: would wear them a lot because I didn't know when 512 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: it was gonna happen, and I was just like I 513 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: don't want to have a problem, you know, at work 514 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: or something like that. So I could see in situations 515 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: like that for people that have like breakthrough bleeding or something, 516 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: but just for regular stuff like that's just normal. Yeah, 517 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: all right. 518 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: The CIA is facing backlash after a document was unsealed 519 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: from over sixty years ago revealing that they may have 520 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: the cure for cancer. 521 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: So all right. I kind of said this jokingly when 522 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: in the entrance of this show, because it's like, this 523 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: document doesn't show that they have a cure for cancer 524 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: at all, And actually, I I hate I just don't 525 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: like when things start going viral for no reason, Like 526 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: this is a CIA document from nineteen fifty one that 527 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: got declassified in like twenty fourteen, Like why today, Why 528 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: is it going viral today? 529 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: Because it's like everybody like it's like this bandwagon, like 530 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: everybody's got to jump on it because somebody pointed it 531 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: out and it's getting more traction, and. 532 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: Like the comments under it are just so stupid. Like 533 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: I guess this particular study they did just said that 534 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 2: they notice some biochemical similarities between parasitic worms and cancer cells, 535 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: and the treatments might target them in the same kind 536 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: of a way, right, but the which I don't even 537 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: know if the current research stands on that. I can't 538 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: stand when people say there's a cure for cancer and 539 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: they and they don't know they don't want to release 540 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: it because that's just like that's just not really a possibility. 541 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Cancer starts for all different reasons, and it starts in 542 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: any different kind of south throughout your whole entire body. 543 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: So there wouldn't just be like one magic cure for it. 544 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: It just doesn't. It doesn't even make any sense. So 545 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: there might be treatments for certain can Like I'm not 546 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: trying to stick up for the government, because trust me, 547 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: they're probably hiding a ton of shit, but like there 548 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: could be cures for certain cancers, or not cures, but 549 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: like treatments for certain cancers that they might not want 550 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: to for whatever reason. That's like a whole other story. 551 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: But there's not just like this general cure, Oh give 552 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: this person this drug and it'll go away. Like that 553 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't exist. 554 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, if you were in our Conspiracy Hour on YouTube live, 555 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: we could maybe argue that this is big farmist way 556 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: of trying to keep making intent of mind. 557 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: I get that, but like there's it's just like not 558 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: a specific thing. It's just not not one thing that 559 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: you could fix, Like you could say something a condition 560 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: like osteoithritis, for example, is like it's a very a 561 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: thing you could pinpoint, you could say, like people get 562 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: it when they're older. It happens because a wear and 563 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: tear on the joints. This is why the articular cartilage 564 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: rubs down. And there's this treatment for it in this cure. 565 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: So if they hid that, big Pharma could still make 566 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: all the money or the surgery whoever to fix that. 567 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: But cancer is just like is it an environmental factor, 568 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: is it a genetic factor? What sells? Is it attacking 569 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: pancreas cells, lymphocytes? Like, it's just so widespread that there's 570 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: no one magic cure all. It's just there's not it. 571 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: There's not I'm one hundred percent certain of that. So 572 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: this document isn't saying that, by the way at all. 573 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: It's just saying that there's some biochemical similarities between parasites 574 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: and tumors. 575 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, people that don't know what they're talking about read it, 576 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: and then because there's such distrust in the government, they 577 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: wanted well. 578 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: And I understand that because I don't have trust with 579 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: them either, And if I was like a regular person, 580 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: I would totally believe this too, probably, like I just 581 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: know because of what I know about how cancer grows. 582 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: That to me it's it doesn't say anything, like their 583 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: interpretation of it is not correct. People are saying, like 584 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: I told you that cancer was a parasite, and it's like, no, 585 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: it's not like that just sounds dumb. It's like they 586 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: don't know how it works. It's like, yeah, people refer 587 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: to chat GBT and then they are getting like incorrect 588 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: information on things king their geniuses. Yeah, Like I just don't. 589 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't understand, like what, I don't understand why why 590 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: this week I'm reading it and I'm just like, wait, 591 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: this came out in two tenty fourteen, so it wasn't 592 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: a big deal then, and now all of a sudden, it's. 593 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: Like, oh, I mean you can argue that with the 594 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: free to baby stuff like everything, right, Like they haven't. 595 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: They've they've been like publicly doing it for a while, 596 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: but it just takes one person to really go off 597 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: with it. And like, I admit I jumped on the 598 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: bandwagon with that, but I didn't know. So like now 599 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: that it was brought to my attention, I've made an 600 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: informed decision. 601 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: I go from there. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't 602 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: know that particular one either, because I haven't used that 603 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: like now the packaging's all different when I used it. 604 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: When I mean, Luci is eleven years old now, so 605 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: I haven't saw I haven't even touched that shit in 606 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: ten years, right, So I didn't know about it. And 607 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: now I'm like, oh, yeah. 608 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: I think that thing just came out when you had 609 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: the girls, like it was pretty brand new. 610 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. So I don't I don't know, but yeah, 611 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: so I don't. I personally don't think that there's anything 612 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: in this paperwork that's like hidden. It's just research that 613 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: was done that just shows that there's different chemical similarities. 614 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: And they say, like, Okay, well if this drug reacts 615 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: to a parasitic infection, maybe it would react to this 616 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: And that's probably why a lot of people are getting Oh, 617 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: if you take these medications when you have cancer, you 618 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: could get rid of it instead of like getting actual 619 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: treatment for it. And then a lot of times they 620 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: die because they don't get actual treatment for it. But 621 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 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