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Speaker 1: Rich Paul ruffles some feathers last week on his podcast

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers have options the Lakers. If I was the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: I would probably be targeting the Memphis Grizzlies as a

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Speaker 2: trade partner for Jaren Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would for whom.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, because you got to figure out

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Speaker 2: the package. But I think if you're building around Luca

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Speaker 2: going forward, which they are, you need a guy like

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Speaker 2: you need that anchor. And Jaren doesn't want to be

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Speaker 2: a part of a rebuild. They just put John Morant

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Speaker 2: on the market. If you're able to trade out expirings

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Speaker 2: and give up the last first round pick you got,

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Speaker 2: that could be one scenario, right or you can say,

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Speaker 2: let me withhold that.

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Speaker 4: But this comes with a one.

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Speaker 1: This comes with a very.

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Speaker 2: Unemotional attachment because Austin is beloved, which he should be,

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Speaker 2: but he's an underdog.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You if you really if there's a world where you

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Speaker 2: can do what's best for your team and do what's

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Speaker 2: best for rost because Austin deserves to get paid right now, this.

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Speaker 1: Is very interesting because I like Rich, I like his

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Speaker 1: come up, I like his grind, I like how powerful.

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Speaker 3: He is in the game right now.

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Speaker 1: And then I also saw what Austin Reeves Rivers said,

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Speaker 1: excuse me about not players you shouldn't na and I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the middle. From a standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was kind of weird for someone of Rich's

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Speaker 1: caliber and richest power A lot of people behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes about Clutch's power and how what they have with

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Speaker 1: the teams and and and they're say so with getting

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Speaker 1: players and not getting players on different teams. I found

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Speaker 1: it kind of weird. What you know, the fact that

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Speaker 1: he would openly share this as an agent and and

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Speaker 1: and let's keep it real, a lot of he said

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people possibly are thinking.

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Speaker 3: But these people aren't as powerful as Rich.

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Speaker 1: And to be able to share something that you know

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Speaker 1: is going to go into the Lakers locker room that

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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you're six to reade the separation

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Speaker 1: from Bron. So now Bron has to kind of step

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Speaker 1: in it and say, hey, you know that that that

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Speaker 1: that's his own man, doing his own thing. But to me,

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Speaker 1: that kind of shit fucks locker rooms. Obviously, the conversation

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Speaker 1: surrounding Austin Reeves and what can happen. And again, Rich

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Speaker 1: is not the only one think of that. He's just

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Speaker 1: the only one powerful enough to know what. You know,

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Speaker 1: when he's saying that kind of shit, that's gonna make waves.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think there's no Austin Reeves has had

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Speaker 1: a great season. Something I predicted. I was fighting back

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Speaker 1: with the neighborhood hater Gino told him, Austin Reeve's going

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Speaker 1: to touch that He's gonna touch for somewhere around two

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Speaker 1: hundred million. That's how good he is and how good

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Speaker 1: he's been playing. You think about a chance to trade

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Speaker 1: for you know, Jah a Jah or Jaron Jackson Triple J.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, people are talking here, but to hear

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Speaker 1: Rich say, it is a little different. So this is

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Speaker 1: we're at a weird space, a fun space, you know,

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Speaker 1: where everyone has a voice and it's amplified now. And again,

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Speaker 1: Rich is one of the most powerful behind the scenes dudes.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for him to go this way, obviously

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Speaker 1: Ar's representation pulled up on Rich at a game. Interesting

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Speaker 1: now it's it's gonna be see what do the Lakers do.

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Speaker 1: Are the Lakers gonna, you know, look to make a move.

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Speaker 1: This is are they you know bronze clock is ticking.

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Speaker 1: It's Lucas team. Now are they gonna put some more

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Speaker 1: around Luca? I mean, although they have a lot and

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Speaker 1: then ar playing so well, he's a tool, a bargaining tool.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see again what the Lakers will do the trading.

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Speaker 1: When is the time the February so it can start?

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Speaker 3: When does it start?

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Speaker 5: Trading always open unless you sign right like Kuminga for example,

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Speaker 5: he couldn't get traded until January fifteenth. How his contract

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Speaker 5: with structure huh. But most guys as a sense right

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Speaker 5: now can get traded, and usually people wait until the

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Speaker 5: end of the trade deadline. And the rumor kind of

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Speaker 5: going around in the world is that everyone's kind of

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Speaker 5: waiting on what Joannis is going to do. What's gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of teams in play for Giannis,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what the Lakers end up doing.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: This is to me what makes the NBA greatest. Shit

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Speaker 1: like this, You know, not only is the basketball side,

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Speaker 1: but the reality TV show side of the game is

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Speaker 1: always in play.

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Speaker 5: The question I have about this is like, do you

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Speaker 5: see Rich Paul continuing to kind of be a media

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Speaker 5: figure down the road, or is him doing this is

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Speaker 5: going to continue.

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Speaker 1: To see I want to see. To me, there's no telling.

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Speaker 1: Some people may like this side of it that he's

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Speaker 1: that he's you know, giving you a look inside of

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Speaker 1: his head and low key. I don't think he's flexed

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Speaker 1: his power, but people understand how powerful and how many

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Speaker 1: players he has in this game and the pool he

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Speaker 1: may have. So I think it's interesting. I want to

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Speaker 1: see how this does this affect business?

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Speaker 3: Does it not?

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Speaker 1: Does it help business? So I think that's what you know,

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna have to guess. We're gonna be to

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Speaker 1: see how this plays out for him. But yeah, if

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Speaker 1: I'm Ar's representation, I got a problem with rich and

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Speaker 1: obviously that they pulled up on him and had, you know,

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Speaker 1: a conversation court side. So we will see. Moving on

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Speaker 1: to some NBA action, the Knicks. Is it time to

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Speaker 1: hit the panic button two and eight in their last

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Speaker 1: ten I don't think it is. These are the dog days.

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Speaker 1: I talk about this a lot, you know, January up

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Speaker 1: until the All Star break. Some teams make position moving up,

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Speaker 1: some teams will slide down. Something I said in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: has kind of been bouncing around on Instagram, on my

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Speaker 1: brother Eddie House and Mike Bibby's podcast Straight Game, where

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Speaker 1: I just kind of had some thoughts on Mike Brown.

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Speaker 4: Will it work? I got one hand saying fuck no.

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Speaker 4: The one thing about Mike Brown is that the first

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Speaker 4: year is always good. Mike is a great, exact person.

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Speaker 1: He's just to me. He's not a leader of men.

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Speaker 1: You have to be There's there's spend.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine it now.

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Speaker 1: Because these kids are making so much money, you have

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Speaker 1: to have the respect of them. And I think Mike

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Speaker 1: is such a nice guy. That's what Fuck's Mike up.

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Speaker 1: Mike wants to be cool with everyone instead of putting

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Speaker 1: his foot down, like this is my team, this is

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Speaker 1: what's going on. So that's why I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: seen that he was my coach with the Lakers. We

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Speaker 4: And when I tell you, rest in peace to.

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Speaker 1: My dog Cove and Ron Artest, they walked all over

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Speaker 1: that they used to sub themselves in and out of games.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, oh shit, you about to try and like,

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Speaker 4: hold on me, I do better. I'm a little crazy.

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Speaker 4: I'm not stupid. I'm crazy. I'm not stupid. I'm not knowing.

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Speaker 1: I can't sub my motherfuck himself in the game. But

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Speaker 1: and then he came to I think he learned. I

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Speaker 1: think he learned a lot in Golden State underneath Steve.

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Speaker 1: I think Mike Brown is a great second chair because

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Speaker 1: when you sit in that second chair, this is the

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Speaker 1: first chair. This that when I tell you there's such

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Speaker 1: a night and day different sitting in the head coaching chair.

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Speaker 1: I think Mike is a great assistant coach. I wish

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Speaker 1: him the best, but I seen it first handed. Sacramento

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Speaker 1: his first year came in, brought Golden State system, they

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs for the first time and pricing, so a

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Speaker 4: You were born. And then he lost the respect of

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Speaker 1: So now you're going to a New York media market

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Speaker 1: that's try to eat you up every mistake.

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Speaker 4: Mike is a good guy.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the situation is gonna work because

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Speaker 1: he's too nice.

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Speaker 3: For his own good. Hope I didn't come across it's

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Speaker 3: too much of an asshole. You know.

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Speaker 1: I've got a chance to play for Mike and work

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Speaker 1: and see him coach. You know, when I used to

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Speaker 1: a pretty good feel on him. And just my initial

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Speaker 1: thought is he's such a good guy that sometimes putting

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Speaker 1: you don't take it seriously, and then you sometimes lose

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Speaker 1: the locker room. And I think he's you know, he

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Speaker 3: A good guy at the core, but you got to

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Speaker 3: lead today.

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Speaker 1: And again this could be a little premature, but it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the Knicks recover. Have dropped

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Speaker 1: nine out of their last eleven bottom five in defense,

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Speaker 1: and that spanned and they started the season twenty three

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Speaker 1: and nine are now twenty five and eighteen. Again, this

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Speaker 1: could be a tough patch at January, tough patch these

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Speaker 1: grind months leading into All Star or is it or

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Speaker 1: something bigger, So that'll be something we pay attention to

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Speaker 1: moving into All Star in the second half of the season.

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Speaker 5: But Matt with a team that, like the East was

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Speaker 5: so wide open, with Halliburton getting hurt, Tatum getting hurt,

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Speaker 5: you know, everyone's looking at the Knicks is like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: this is their year. And I mean the Celtics and

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Speaker 5: Pistons are above them. Just I felt like you went

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what are your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I definitely felt that this was an opportunity for the

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Speaker 1: Knicks to make a run for every reason you said,

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Speaker 1: just guys being down, you know, Milwaukee kind of struggling

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Speaker 1: I love what Detroit has been able to do. They've

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Speaker 1: and make their way up top. What Jaylen Brown has

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Speaker 1: real quick, Detroit, Boston, New York still in third. So

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Speaker 1: But I thought, to your point, Nate, that this would

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Speaker 1: be the year similar to Josh Allen, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of once he got in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: there was no Mahomes, there was no Lamar Jackson. This

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Speaker 1: was to me the year he was supposed to really

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Speaker 1: you know, put his put his foot in it. Put

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Speaker 1: his foot in the ground and make something happen. So again,

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Speaker 1: still what fifty game? Forty games left?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're about halfway point.

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Speaker 1: About halfway point, still forty games left, but something very

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Speaker 1: interesting to pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, I know.

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Speaker 1: Nick fans will be and the media will be paying

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Speaker 1: attention to what this team really is. They start off

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Speaker 1: the season hot, they've they've hit a slump in you know,

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Speaker 1: the dog days of the season, and we'll see what

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Speaker 5: Out and then Matt we're about kind of like two

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Speaker 5: weeks away from the trade deadline, it's on February fifth,

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Speaker 5: or the Knicks a team looking at hey, if we

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Speaker 5: really want a title this year, like that that trade

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Speaker 1: You know, it'll be interesting. You know it'll be I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know what guys come to mind. If we're talking

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Speaker 1: big dogs, then possibly you know, is in getting Giannis?

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Speaker 1: Like what kind of would you have to give up

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Speaker 3: You know, is the cat? Is it Heart?

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Speaker 1: Is it Picks? Is it the bridges in there? And

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Speaker 1: take Heart out? I think Catt will probably be the

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see what this this is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no better time than now for the Knicks to

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Speaker 1: make a move. You know, Tibbs was fired and then

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Speaker 1: they really didn't have a blackup plan. They land Mike Brown,

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Speaker 1: you know, after a search and feel like he was

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Speaker 1: the guy that can help lead this team. So as

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Speaker 1: what I see the Knicks coming out? You never know what,

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Speaker 1: Jayalen Brunson. They can get hot at the right time,

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Speaker 1: but we'll have to keep our heads tuned and our

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Speaker 1: eyeballs open. Unfortunately, Jimmy Butler went down yesterday with the

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Speaker 1: torn acl What does this do to the Warriors?

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Speaker 3: They were already kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a middle of where they six seven in that

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Speaker 1: area that the kids say, that's a big blow. And

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Speaker 1: I saw actually Gilbert on the way over here today

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Speaker 3: You are you? Are you ready to play? And gil

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Speaker 3: said his whole body's gonna be hurt in u WII.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't that's been an unfortunate situation because

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Speaker 1: I really like Kaminga. I think if he's able to

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Speaker 1: you know, points and rebounds and and and some athleticism

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Speaker 1: there has to be something going on on Kminga's part

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Speaker 1: for Steve Kurr not to fuck with them this much.

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Speaker 1: So unfortunate for Jimmy Butler being what is Jimmy thirty five,

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Speaker 5: This is the second oldest player to tour to tearing

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Speaker 5: Aco the last twenty years, and the other guy was

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Speaker 3: Different kind of game, yeah too, in different importance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish Jimmy Butler the best obviously, Unfortunately a

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Speaker 1: CL's are very common now and and he'll be you know,

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Speaker 1: Be a big blow for the Warriors. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: sure where they go from here. To be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what they do with the trade deadline with Kamina.

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Speaker 1: If there's anything cooking over there. You hear Giannis is

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Speaker 1: in play or that's one of the teams, so we

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Speaker 1: shall see.

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Speaker 5: Butler getting hurt kind of screws him into the trailer.

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Speaker 3: Would have to be a part of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, just from a money standpoint, And now you don't

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Speaker 5: have an asset to trade, and does.

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Speaker 1: A Draymond and kaminga package with some incentives around it

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Speaker 1: get you a Giannis or no, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think you'sol maybe an ad like you got to

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Speaker 5: think about it, like if if Kuminga had a better

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Speaker 5: suitor this offseason.

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Speaker 3: We would have been with the Warriors.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and didn't have it.

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Speaker 1: But how much of that is teams souring off her?

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Speaker 3: Not like what they don't know?

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Speaker 1: You know what what people are whispering because you know,

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Speaker 1: people plant fucked up me. And I'm not saying Kamina

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Speaker 1: hasn't earned what's said about him, but people bad mouth

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Speaker 5: Fair but also they there's a report that they gave

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Speaker 5: Kaming an opportunity to play and he's like, oh, my

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Speaker 5: back's hurt, I don't want to play, So like what

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Speaker 5: is that telling you.

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Speaker 3: That it's a it's a it's a cod world.

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Speaker 1: And he was mad that they weren't fucking with him,

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Speaker 1: So he's not in the into Gilbert's point.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't seen Gilbert Ship, go check it out.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of funny, just you know now that

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Speaker 1: the words I don't Steve gonna stand on the ship.

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Speaker 1: Steve's not gonna fuck with Minga the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting, uh, to see what happens out

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Speaker 1: there in that land,