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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booths podcast the how Long Till Tomorrow? Addition,

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Speaker 1: and thank you Bengals fan John Legend for the song

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Speaker 1: as we get set for Super Bowl fifty six between

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and Rams. Coming up, my conversation with Bengals

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Speaker 1: President Mike Brown on the impact of Joe Burrow, the

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Speaker 1: on radio for the twelfth consecutive year for Westwood One.

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Speaker 1: since kids dressing like Joe Burrow. I can't get enough

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Speaker 1: of the pictures on social media of little kids, in

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Speaker 1: and Joey franchise has certainly done it again. He has

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to my guests, beginning with Bengals president

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Speaker 1: win over the Rams. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on this great season. Best of luck on Super

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