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Welcome to our podcast. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions expressed by 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: the host are their thoughts and opinions only and do 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: not reflect those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage you to 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Get read this Strange Things with Joshua Wren. I am 14 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: Joshua ME Warren, and he tweaked. On this show, I'll 15 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises 16 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 17 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the program. Tones That 18 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Can Change Your Life with Dale Alan Hoffman, What is 19 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: the absolute fastest way, the best method to naturally reach 20 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: a better mindset? Will listen to this. He's been a 21 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: friend of mine for a long time. Dale Alan Hoffman 22 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: is an ancient aramaic wisdom keeper, mystic and energetic healer, 23 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: revealing long suppressed ancient secrets and healing modalities. He came 24 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: of age in the nineteen seventies on the edge of 25 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: the fabled pine bearings of southern New Jersey. Now the 26 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Pints were the ancestral lands of the indigenous Lenape nation, 27 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: as well as an occult hotbed rife with all kinds 28 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: of sacrificial cults and the Atlantic city mafia, haunted Revolutionary 29 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: War battlefields, and of course you know the infamous script 30 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: of the Jersey Devil. Well Dale's childhood was punctuated by 31 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: a woman profound experience as a paranormal and natural phenomena 32 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: extraterrestrial visitations spiritual epiphanies. For over thirty years, Dale has 33 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: been many call a quote teacher behind the teachers, and 34 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: since coining the term aramaic toning in the early nineteen nineties, 35 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: Dale is the frequent go to authority from many well 36 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: known spiritual teachers, celebrities, business icons, musicians, and everyday people 37 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: on how to awaken the experiential core of ancient teachings 38 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: in the most practical way possible. And he has published 39 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: numerous audio and video programs, and he's the author of 40 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: the book Echoes of an Ancient Dream, Aramaic Toning on 41 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: the Path of Light. His website is Dale Allen Hoffman 42 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: dot com. That's d A L E A L L 43 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: E N H O F F M A N Dale 44 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Alan Hoffman dot com. The interview is long overdue, so 45 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: here we go, Dale Alan Hoffman. Welcome to the show. 46 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Pwesome to be here. It's good to hear your voice, 47 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: you know. Del. You and I met in my hometown 48 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: of Asheville, North Carolina, and we have been friends for 49 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: a long time and it's been a true pleasure watching 50 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: your work progress over all these years. But for someone 51 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: who has never heard of you, please explain what you 52 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: do in a nutshell uh, I take basically essentially ancient 53 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: work and bringing into a present moment context. I say, 54 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: ancient insight for the present moment. There's a lot of 55 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: people that do that. What's really unique about what I 56 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: do is I work especially I'm known as an ancient 57 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: aramatic wisdom keeper. I work a lot with the teachings 58 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: of that that we're ultimately translated into the Bible from 59 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: jeez this, yes you, etcetera. But also one of the 60 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: things I do is I work with taking ancient languages, 61 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: ancient teachings, ancient sounds, and showing people how to actually 62 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: pronounce particular things toning, which is something we can talk 63 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: about and bring people into a present moment experience with 64 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: something that we've basically only had an experience with interpretations 65 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: through multiple languages on a page. So my intention is 66 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: to bring people into the present moment as if it 67 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: was two thousand years ago as much as possible, right 68 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: here and right now now. Aaron mak is the language 69 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: that Jesus spoke correct, Yes, yeah, that Hebrew also of 70 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: course being Jewish. But and so how did you learn that? Uh? Piecemeal? 71 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: At first? It was not easy, you know, going back 72 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, there wasn't really a lot of people 73 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: to speak with. I tried learning from books, which is 74 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: a train wreck. Uh. I started mentoring with a lot 75 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: of different people, tried working from recordings. There was some 76 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: programs out there I was able to connect in with, 77 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: going to lots of symposiums. Honestly, for the first fifteen 78 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: years I've been doing this for about thirty two now. 79 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: The first fifteen years there's a little slow going. I 80 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: would think I was saying something intelligent, people would laugh. UM. 81 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: A little bit further down the line, I was able 82 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: to start going deeper into the work of people like 83 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Dr Roco Erico or Neil Douglas Clots or Andrew Gabriel Roth. 84 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: I could drop all kinds of names into that where 85 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I started going deeper into the roots sounds like the 86 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: the actual roots sounds that you would find that would 87 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: pop up between different teachings where you've never realized they 88 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: were there, that will actually take you down into a 89 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: place where you actually have the opportunity to be in 90 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: a similar sort of vibrational experience with the people that 91 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: actually spoke them and with the aramaic though now it's 92 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of all over the place in a way, but 93 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: funny enough. Not having a lot of resources, it forced 94 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: me to see a lot of things that I never 95 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: could have seen, I think if I learned it in 96 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: some kind of traditional fashion coming from the outside. I 97 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: was able to see similarities how things connected, particular almost 98 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: algorithms and some of the teachings you could say codes 99 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: that someone that was sort of died in the wool 100 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: in a theological or biblical context, you know, from a seminary. 101 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: They would never be able to see any of that. 102 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: So now some of the earliest versions of the Bible 103 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: were in Greek. Correct. Yeah, there's there's Greek, there's Aramaic. 104 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Funny that we don't have the originals of any of them. 105 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: So when you actually ask people like how many originals 106 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: do you think we we have, and they're like, well, 107 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: we must have one, right, I'm like, no, we have zero. Uh. 108 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: What's intriguing though, is a lot of the Greek originals 109 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: have these like syntax errors. What does that mean? That 110 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: means that you look at a supposed old Greek text 111 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and it doesn't really make a lot of sense. If 112 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: you lay the Aramaic next to it, all of a 113 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: sudden it clears up. And what's interesting is that wouldn't 114 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: happen if something was originally sourced in Grief and obviously 115 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: they would want that to make sense in coin a Greek. Uh. 116 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: If it was just reverse engineered back into Arabic, you 117 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't have the syntax errors and things of that nature. Uh. 118 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: And I mean much like what Graham Hancock does with uh, 119 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, working with archaeology and being sort of off 120 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: the beaten path, I'm not welcomed in. I'm sort of 121 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: an outsider that's trying to be trying to intrude. For years, 122 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I called myself a civilian scholar. I realized that the 123 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: hardest thing about what I was doing was just being heard, 124 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: because any kind of an established not just doctrines of religion, 125 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: but just in a established belief system or thought system. Archaeology, 126 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: like I say, with Graham's work is a good example. 127 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: People they're not interested in rocking the boat, you know, 128 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: They're interested in getting the accolades they need and cashing 129 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: their checks. And the people that are considered, you know, 130 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: experts in biblical teachings or languages whatever, they're only called 131 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: experts because they went to the same institutions that essentially 132 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: everybody else did. And the more they were able to 133 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: part back that that conditioning, the more they were basically 134 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: put up and held up and say, Okay, this guy 135 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: here is an expert. And I came from completely out 136 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: of left field. But I think that one of the 137 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: primary differences for me is I actually put this stuff 138 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: into practice. I wasn't just having relationships with concepts on 139 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: the page. There's a big difference there. When you look 140 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: at the King James version of the Bible versus some 141 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: of the oldest documents that you've been able to read. 142 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: How close is the connection. Well, it's interesting because most 143 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: people don't really know the truth of a lot of 144 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: King James, his tutor, how he learned, you know, his mother, Mary, 145 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Queen of Scott's. They don't know a lot of the 146 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: they know what's put out by theological institutions. They don't 147 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: know a lot about like a lot of the backstory 148 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: of what he actually did know, the teams of scribes, 149 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: which was about almost three dozen that he had surrounding 150 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: working on those texts. Um honestly, to be honest, it's 151 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: apples and oranges, because the King James is a beautiful document. Uh, 152 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: it's beautifully poetic. There's a lot of things people don't realize, 153 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: like what are those italicized words? Me No, Well, that 154 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: means it was added, meaning it wasn't actually there. People 155 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: don't really grow up knowing those kinds of things. But 156 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: I started getting that that's really what I cut my 157 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: teeth with when I was seven years old. But that's 158 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: the first time that I laid sat on the floor, 159 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: laid five Bibles next to each other on my grandmother's 160 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: living room floor, and I compared different parts of the 161 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: Gospel of Matthew and Aramaic that's Mattie, and I went, 162 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: hold on a second, here, I'm told this is the 163 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: inerrent word of God. Why are these all completely different, 164 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: like not just little things, but things that a seven 165 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: year old kid and pick up and say, wait a second, 166 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: this is not the same. One of those was the 167 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: King James was one was a sixteen eleven King James, 168 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: which I still have, which is different than the King 169 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: James that's the original. Those were replicates of the original plates. 170 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: And then there was the new King James, which is 171 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: different from the King James, different from the sixteen eleven 172 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: King James. And then she had a Greek Lexicon Bible, 173 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: and I don't remember the fifth one. And it was 174 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: baffling to me because I'm like, something's not right here. 175 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: And that's when I started having and this is the 176 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: part where I'll often get pushed off to the side. 177 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: I started having these more you know, interdimensional teachings happening 178 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: for me. How do I, you know, put that into language. 179 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: You know, I was going through a pretty not It 180 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: was a nice childhood, you know, southern New Jersey across 181 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, farmlands and everything with suburbs. But you know, 182 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: things were going on in the home, some really intense stuff. 183 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: And I would find myself out out in nature pretty 184 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: much all day long, throw my shoes off and run 185 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: out into the farms all around me, into the county 186 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: woods right on the edge of the pine barrens, Jersey 187 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Devil all that, uh. And I would spend so much 188 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: time out there. Sometimes I'd take a Bible with me, 189 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I wouldn't, and I would sit there what I 190 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: called crisscross apple sauce Indian style in a lotus position, meditating, 191 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: not knowing that I was meditating. I was just trying 192 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: to do what I could to quiet my mind, using 193 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: really based tones that I was learning from some Greek 194 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: texts and stuff like that, even English, trying to elongate 195 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: these sounds. And what started happening is, you know, lack 196 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: of a better words, the veils started lifting. Time for 197 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: a break when we come back. Wait, do you see 198 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: what happened to Dale? When the veil started lifting and remember. 199 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: If you want some cool free instant gifts, all you 200 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: have to do is go right now to Joshua B. 201 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Warren dot com and sign up from my free e 202 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: newsletter right there on the homepage. I am Joshua pe Warren. 203 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: And you're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart 204 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network, 205 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange 206 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. 207 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: I am Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, the Wizard 208 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: of Weird, Joshua pe Warren. And now let's get back 209 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: to my interview with Dale Alan Hoffman. His website is 210 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Dell Alan Hoffman dot com. Lack of a better word, 211 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: the veils started lifting, and at the time I didn't 212 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: know I had met my spirit guides. That wasn't really 213 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: fully revealed to me till a couple of decades later. 214 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: But I started having relationships with higher beings. I don't 215 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: know how to say, I would say trans dimensional or interdimensional. Intriguingly, 216 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: A lot of the learning that I got, and this 217 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: is where you know people don't want to listen to 218 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: that part was coming from almost like I don't, for 219 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: lack of a better word, like cracks in three D, 220 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, little spaces that I had to get into 221 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: in deep states is meditation. And that started happening, started happening. 222 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: And then it was seven years old at a vacation 223 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Bible school in class, and everybody's talking about, you know, 224 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: lay up for yourself, treasures in heaven, all of that 225 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You know, don't want to quote kinds 226 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: of verses. But I'm looking around the room in this 227 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: vacation Bible school and I'm like, something's not right. Everybody's 228 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: talking about this heaven, you know, as a place you 229 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: go to after you die. And I remember looking down 230 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: at the page and there was the only way I 231 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: can explain this is that there was a goog. There 232 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: was a light within the page. It wasn't a fire, 233 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: It was like a light, and I saw four distinct 234 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: layers inside, like literally physically as if I could put 235 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: my hand inside the page, and it went down into 236 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: deeper dimensions or layers in different colors and different languages, 237 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: and each of them had a deeper meaning from the 238 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: surface level on top, which was in black, which was 239 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: the English, and then four other layers, and I remember 240 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: putting my hand over it and I'm like, well, all right, 241 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: hold on, I don't feel heat. And then I was 242 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: very aware all of a sudden that the room was dark, 243 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: and I remember looking up in the rooms empty, and 244 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking around the room and I hear the kids 245 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: out in the hallway. I realized they must have left 246 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the room and everybody's out there, and the teacher puts 247 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: her head back in and she looks at me, and 248 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I must have been red faced, and she's like, are 249 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: you coming? And I'm like okay. And I remember walking 250 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: out of the church, going through the back to this 251 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: baseball diamond and I'm looking up at these trees and 252 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm seeing lights that are dancing, but there was no lights. 253 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm hearing like a high not a squeal, but like 254 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: the way I explain it, it's like I spent let's say, 255 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: hours getting my sound system sounding as amazing as I can. 256 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: And then somebody comes from out of nowhere and lifts 257 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: a blanket off, and all of a sudden, this presence, 258 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: this sheen is there. And I still remember looking over 259 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: at the teacher and she's looking at me like, what 260 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: did that kid do? I know, I looked guilty. That 261 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: was my first the first moment that I went hold 262 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: on and I realized that I was seeing something that 263 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: other people weren't seeing. And as you explored this more 264 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: and more, it leads you deep for and deeper into toning. Yeah, 265 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: so toning is a brand new concept for some people. 266 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Give us some examples of what you're talking about when 267 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: you say you're into toning. Yeah, it's it's It is 268 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: interesting because people are like, well, you mean working out muscles. 269 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, uh, it's let me put it 270 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: this way, you know before even because I can even 271 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: give you an example of it, of course. But the 272 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: thing about toning, for me, that's so powerful. It's the 273 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: fastest technology tool I've ever encountered in my life. To 274 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: get a newbie who's never done anything like that before 275 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: into a deep state of presence. It's faster than meditation. 276 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: It's faster than any kind of spoken prayer. It's faster 277 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: than any kind of breathwork. Now I'm saying, now I've 278 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: been meditating for decades, I can get myself they're into 279 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: a deep place of presence just in half of a second. 280 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: That's a little different for a newbie. That doesn't happen toning. However, 281 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I'll just put out one one word. You know, the 282 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: first word from an aramaic prayer sounds like this. Ann. 283 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make one simple sound. Oh, it's a 284 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: little similar to home that we know of from the Sanskrit. 285 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: All I can say is there. I am six seconds later, 286 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: and I am in a completely different state of being, 287 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: even if I'm not even pronouncing a particular word or 288 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing it wrong. You can just make a simple 289 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: and it's funny. I can do this with a five 290 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: year old and I can see the shift in their face, 291 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: in their eyes after only three or four seconds. I'm 292 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: not aware of any other technology that works that quick 293 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: for someone that's never done that, done something before. So 294 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: what's happening? What are you doing there? Well, I mean 295 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: it's it's funny. It's all about residents. Uh. You know. 296 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: One of the things that I my biggest challenge when 297 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: I started learning going deeper into a lot of this 298 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: Bible stuff and I realized that the church path wasn't 299 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: going to be it. One of the biggest frustrations I 300 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: had was even as a young kid, I started recognizing 301 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: that people were really having relationships with concepts on a page. 302 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: They weren't actually having a lot of these deeper inner 303 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: things that I was really seeking that I needed to have. 304 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: And intriguingly, as an example, the beginning of John, the 305 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: Gospel of John starts like this. In Aramaic, been a 306 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: sheep at hua multa. That word mealta was the word 307 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: translated as word. Of course, that's logos in Greek. In 308 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: point a Greek, technically lexus or lego would be a 309 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: word that could be written on a page. Logos is 310 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: something quite a bit more uh less definable in that sense, 311 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: meal Ta and Aramaic, the tad gendering that word feminine 312 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: meila would be an actual word, a physical word that 313 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: you see on a page, meal Ta. What that actually 314 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: means is the experience of tad gendering feminine. What does 315 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: that mean? I just want to clarify that that means 316 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: that if I'm holding, let's say a pen in my hand, 317 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: the actual pen itself would be considered more masculine. The 318 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: physical thing. It's something that's obvious in front of me. 319 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: In three D, I can give you a pen. However, 320 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: my perception, experience, attitude, about the pen observation, the perception 321 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: would be much more feminine. Malta would be not a 322 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: word written on a page, but rather the vibrational frequency 323 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: experience as you are speaking it consciously, as you are 324 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: intoning it, whether you're making the sound or not. Funny enough, 325 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: I can make a sound and have that experien orians 326 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: and then I cannot make the sound, And as long 327 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: as I keep that in my awareness, I can still 328 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: have a vibrational frequency relationship and experience with it even 329 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: without intoning it out loud. And that was the thing 330 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: that really unlocked the deeper teachings for me in a 331 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: way that because you read a lot of the teachings, 332 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: people are learning all these repetitions of things that go 333 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: to through multitudes of languages. But when you go back 334 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: to something very source, whether it's Lakota or Aramaic or Hebrew, 335 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna have an experience of something that is much 336 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: more intimate, that's got much more I almost want to say, 337 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: beautiful teeth to it, something you can really sink your 338 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: teeth into, rather than just having a relationship with a 339 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: concept that's defined from the intellectual side of your brain, 340 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: which isn't a bad thing, per a. But it really 341 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: is two completely different experiences. All right. So right now, obviously, uh, 342 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: people are very stressed out. I think people have always 343 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: been stressed out. We know that. Everybody thinks I'm the 344 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: most stressed out person who's ever lived, you know, and 345 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: even though they don't, they don't look back at the 346 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: historical context. So all right, when it comes to toning um, 347 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: just again, as an example, when somebody is feeling bad, 348 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: when you're feeling bad, what do you think is the 349 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: most fast acting tone to put you in a better spirit? 350 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: You know that? For me, it's it's a really simple sound. 351 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: It's at the end of several Aramaic tones, and it's 352 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: a combination of two different sounds, which is the left, 353 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: which is the first letter of the Aramaic alphabet and 354 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: essentially is represented as everything. It means the oneness of everything, 355 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: everything included as one singularity or absolute. And then the 356 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: second sound of it is the judd, which is armor extension, 357 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: something reaching out. You can also even say hand and 358 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: when you make that sound like as an example, at 359 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: the end on John three six, that word that was 360 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: translated as only begotten minogo nace from the Greek, which 361 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: means literally only born. In Aramaic, that word is a 362 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: headda and the I a sound at the end of 363 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: that means essentially something that's limitless, it has no boundary. 364 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: Shamayah the word heaven, which is our eleven year old 365 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: daughter's name, Heaven, which is also the word sky. It 366 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: ends with aya, means something that has no beginning and 367 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: no ending. So for me, what's a really powerful sound 368 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: is simply repeating the olive and the judd together. And 369 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: of course when I tone those together, you're gonna hear 370 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: an English word uh i, which if you look at 371 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: that from Aramaic roots, that is the absolute, the oneness 372 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: one is kind of a problematic word to use, but 373 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: the absolute reaching or extending itself out. Now, if I 374 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: just tone that ah, it's one of those tones just 375 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: I I. It's one of those tones that for me 376 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: has such a beautifully connected nature, can go on as 377 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: long as I can laugh. And it's also really powerful 378 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: without making the sound. Like if you're in a business 379 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: meeting or something and you're totally stressed out, you can 380 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: do that one under your breath without even making the tone. 381 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: And I can guarantee you that as long as you're 382 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: paying attention, you will feel not only that deeper sense 383 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: of presence within, but I physically, and have you've done 384 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: this with tens of thousands of people across the earth, 385 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: you physically you can feel your physiology shift. Did you 386 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: feel it? It's time for a break. But I must say, 387 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: I think he's right. I think he's onto something. Listen 388 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: to what he has to say next. I'm Joshua pe Warren, 389 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: and you're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart 390 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Parinormal Podcast Network, 391 00:25:32,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back 392 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: to Strange Things the Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. 393 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: I am para normal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua 394 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: pe Warren, and this is the show where the unusual 395 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: becomes usual. And now back to my interview with Dale 396 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Alan Hoffman. When I was in Puerto Rico, I used 397 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: to drive for hours back and forth across the island, 398 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: often in the middle of the jungle, and one of 399 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: my favorite things to listen to was this CD that 400 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: you did back in the day. And I can't remember 401 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: which one it was, but the from the I M. Yeah, okay, 402 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: the points you made were fascinating and I told you 403 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: that and you said, yeah, well thanks, but I've advanced 404 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: a lot since then, and I and I thought that 405 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: was cool that you're always growing. So so Anana was 406 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: that CD What was the ultimate message of that recording? Well, 407 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: that was you know that one I unpack the I 408 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: M statements of of Yes who of Jesus from the 409 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: Gospel of John, and you can boil it all down 410 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: to this. When he would say anana, as in in 411 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: in coin a Greek, that's egohimmy, And what that means 412 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: is I another I individual, I am essentially in modern English. 413 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: In Aramaic it was a little more problematic though, because 414 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: in Aramic the words sound it's actually a technically two 415 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: different words, one word repeated twice, and in Aramaic it 416 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: sounds like this anana, which is actually one word. Anna 417 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: said twice Anna, Anna, And when I look on the page, 418 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: I see Anna Anna. But the way we pronounced that, 419 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: the middle offe sound drops and it becomes Anana, which 420 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: intriguingly is the Sumerian goddess of love, fertility, and warfare. 421 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: That's a side note, though, but what that means the 422 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: literal translation of those words in Aramaic in his native 423 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: tongue was not I am. Actually, if he was saying 424 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: I am I Jesus, he would just say Anna Anna 425 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: luchma Dahai. I am the bread of life on a 426 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: new rod alum, I am the light of the world. 427 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: But that's not what it says in Aramaic. It actually 428 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: says Anna Anna. The literal translation is I I the 429 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: eye within the eye, the eye behind the eye, the 430 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: eye inside of the eye. Which is intriguing because Aramaic 431 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: gave influence Oharat Ease, all these different Ethiopic and Somali languages, 432 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: and somehow that II idea from ancient Aramaic ended up 433 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: in the Rasta philosophies. Emperor Selassie, you know if everybody's 434 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: heard uh Marley on Bob Marley, you know Redemption song, 435 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: Oh pirates, Yes, they job I took eye to the 436 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: merchant ship minutes after that. You know, all of that, 437 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: all of that comes from ancient Aramaic. There is the 438 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: differentiation between I the individual bail or Josh versus. Let 439 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: me put it in these words. What you're looking for 440 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: is what is looking the difference between seeing through the 441 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: human eye versus seeing, you know, without sounding, you know, 442 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: two sort of hunky dory, seeing with the eyes of God, 443 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: seeing with the eyes of eternity of the cosmos. And 444 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: if you look at all of those statements, those I 445 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: AM statements, you realize they had nothing to do with 446 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: him talking about himself. He was talking about that presence 447 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: which is in the center of each and every one 448 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: of us. It takes the entire religion, you know, when 449 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: you look at it in Aramaic, without the theology that 450 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: people can even put on top of the Aramaic. It 451 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: takes the whole thing, pulls the carpet out and turns 452 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: it upside down, but doesn't turn it upside down in 453 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: a mess. It turns it back onto each and every 454 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: single one of us, so that it's no longer religion. 455 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Now it's actually life itself that we're talking about. We 456 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: did an event together one time on a college campus, 457 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: and I talked about all my paranormal and UFO stuff, 458 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: and then you took over, and the next thing I knew, 459 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: everybody was laying on the floor, and some people were giggling, 460 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: and some people were crying, and some people were dancing 461 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: like they were in a Pentecostal ritual. How did you 462 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: create that? Oh? That was so fun I mean it 463 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: was funny because I don't know if you remember, but 464 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: I remember you coming up to me and you kind 465 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: of leaned in, like halfway into my part of that 466 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: thing where all that was happening, and you kind of went, 467 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, Dale, all of our instrumentation is basically slamming 468 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: to the top, and so I don't know how we 469 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: can measure anything if everything is just maxing out. I'm like, 470 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: what does that mean? You're like, I have no idea, 471 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: and then you're like, I'm taking our guys and we're 472 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: gonna go wait for you. And then afterward it was funny. 473 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: I was talking with you afterward and we were just 474 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: kind of recapping things, and Lauren, you know your wife, 475 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: of course, your beautiful wife was behind me, and I 476 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: didn't know that she was aiming. I remember radio waves, 477 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: my chrometer, I don't remember what the heck it was, 478 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: and you're like looking at me and then looking over 479 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: my shoulder, and they're like, damn. I just wanted to 480 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: tell you that every time that you get into this 481 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: like really passionate place, there's like this energy that comes 482 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: off and Lawren's got this whatever gizmo aimed at your 483 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: head and every time you get into that spot, the 484 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: needle max is out. And I'm like, well, what does 485 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: that mean again? You're like, I have no idea, but 486 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: it was like, here's the thing. I didn't grow up pentecostal. 487 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: I I ten years ago I kind of stopped the 488 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: although I feel like I'm getting ready to go back 489 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: to those those sort of water healing things that were happening. 490 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: And let me explain why I kind of moved away. 491 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: People were coming to me, and they're coming to me 492 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: with like tumors wrapped around their spine, and all of 493 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: a sudden they're gone. People are flying across the room, 494 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: They're flammling like fish on the floor. There's literally blue 495 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: streets of light coming out of the palm of my hand. 496 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, people started looking at me like 497 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: I was somehow better than other people. I got, you know, 498 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: not scared per se, But I didn't have a catalog 499 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: that in my life, and I didn't want people looking 500 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: at me like some kind of sort of history on I. 501 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know. People were 502 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: pushing me up on these pedestals and stuff, and I 503 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: was like, you know, and I literally said to my 504 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: wife Laretta, well you know, Loretta, and I'm like, you know, 505 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore because people are 506 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: looking at me like I'm like this miracle man. But 507 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: what's really happening for them is they are the ones 508 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: that are opening. It's happening within them. I'm just the 509 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: one that's allowing that space. And she's like, yeah, but 510 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: you're doing so much for so many people. And I 511 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: literally just like sort of stopped completely. How I did it? 512 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: And this is the funny thing, I don't know how 513 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: I did it. I didn't. I wasn't raised pentecostal. It 514 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: just started coming to me. And here's another interesting thing 515 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: I had. I have these I don't know how else 516 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: to put it, flashbacks of being within a river a 517 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: long time ago. Uh. I don't know if it's the 518 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: river Jordans, I have that sense, but I have these 519 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: flashbacks of being in this river and doing that kind 520 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: of thing. And it's just something that unfolded through me 521 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: very organically, and I didn't really It's amazing because I 522 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: talked about that even in my book in Ecose of 523 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: an ancient dream, which of course I quote you in, 524 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: but I talked about how when I started doing those 525 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: these water healing events and anointings, I didn't even know 526 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: what it was. I just kept getting these downloads essentially 527 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: that said, you know, you need to do this. And 528 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: even as I'm lifting my hand for people and a 529 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: ball of light shoots out the palm of my hand 530 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: and somebody goes flying, still that little nagging voice in 531 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: the back of my head is going, is this really happening? 532 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Is this all just in my head? Is this all 533 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: in their heads? Um? It was just one of those 534 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: things that I don't know how I did it. I 535 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: just know what it feels like to be open. I 536 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: know what it feels like to be that open vessel 537 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: and channel and the rest takes care of itself. It's 538 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: like being in a state of such absolute humility that 539 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: whatever needs to happen can happen. Whatever needs to calibrate, 540 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, recenter itself, et cetera, happens. And I believe 541 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: in what the words of Earnest Homes He said, there's 542 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: nothing to heal, only truth to be revealed. So for me, 543 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: it's me being in that truth, not because of religion, 544 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: not because of all these different ideas from a page, 545 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: but just allowing basically to be like a little baby, 546 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: taking myself back to being that open, pure vessel without 547 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: all the indoctrination and conditioning on on top on top, 548 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: and then only takes a split second and then all 549 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, somebody, you know, maybe they go flying. 550 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. All I know 551 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: is what it feels like to be open. The entire 552 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: universe is formed by vibrations. But given that, in your opinion, 553 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: what is music interesting? You know, it's funny. Uh. In 554 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: some sense, music is mathematics. But also I don't think 555 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: most people understand what math mathematics really are. I don't 556 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: think they really understand that. Let me put it this way. 557 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: One of the things I'll often ask, you know, when 558 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to crowds or whatever, I'll say, does anybody 559 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 1: in here know what frequency is? And people say, yeah, 560 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: it's like you know, f F sharp, you know, And 561 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's pitch. It's not exactly what I'm saying. 562 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know what frequency? What's the actually 563 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: meaning of frequency? They're like, well, when something's or lower, 564 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, that's not what frequency means. They're like, well, 565 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: if you play something and you feel it, that's frequency. 566 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's vibration. So then finally I'll put 567 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: my hand up and I'll stick my thumb up, and 568 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: then I'll put my my index finger up and I'm 569 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: like that's frequency. And then I'll put my middle finger up. 570 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm like that's frequency. Frequency means how many So intriguingly, 571 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: if the way science and quantum quantum mechanics and all 572 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: these deeper philosophical ideas and things I've even been talking about, 573 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: if the understanding, like the word allaha and aramaic isn't 574 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: God in the sense of this overpowering, overarching being that 575 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: somehow plants us here and creates us. But allaha and 576 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: aramaic literally means absolute only being, meaning that everything is 577 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: happening within an absolute It's not a oneness that we 578 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: love to call it, because as soon as you say oneness, 579 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: your brain is going to go to the mathematics of 580 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: tuness as well. But it's understanding that everything is happening 581 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: within some kind of an absolute system. However, when that 582 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: system and this is you know, essentially in the beginning 583 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: was the word when that system at some point became 584 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: so full of itself if we can even fathom the 585 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: thoughts of what that meant, you know, full of its 586 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: own love, that it needed to experience itself, it needed 587 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: to birth itself out. And that's when you know. It's 588 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: funny if we can call it the big bang. But 589 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: that's what you know. In the words of Dr Albert 590 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: la Chance, he says the mystic calls that a sudden 591 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: arising of awareness. Boy do I wish this show is 592 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: longer sometimes When we come back the conclusion of my 593 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: interview with Dale Alan Hoffman, I am Joshua pe Warren, 594 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: and you are listening to Strange Things all on the 595 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM are a 596 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: normal podcast network, and I will be right back. Welcome 597 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: back to the final segment of this edition of Strange 598 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 599 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: AM normal podcast network. I'm here host Joshua Pete Warren, 600 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: and now here is the conclusion of my interview with 601 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: Dale Allen Hoffman. His website is Dale Alan Hoffman dot com. 602 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: You know, I do a lot of work with scymatics 603 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: and especially what I call para symatics. How does that 604 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: apply to your mission in life? What's incredible because you 605 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: know there's a there's an a spectacular video of people 606 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. Um. Nigel Stanford from Australia did this 607 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: great cymatic video like seven or eight years ago, and 608 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: he they showed the Cloudney plates, which is something Ernst 609 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: Claudney back in the nineteen century was sprinkling. Uh. It 610 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: was either glass shavings or really pure beach sand on 611 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: a plate, a metallic plate, and he took a violin 612 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: bow and he kind of drugged along the side of 613 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: the plate, and all of a studden it started floming 614 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: these amazing geometric patterns, and he started going, all right, 615 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: something's happening here. You can actually buy a Cloudney plate 616 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: now sprinkle the shavings on top. Or in the beginning 617 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: of my book, I talked about even iron filings. You 618 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: can put iron filings on the top of like a 619 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: piece of cardboard and take a magnet below it and 620 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: watch all the different iron filings dancing. While what's beautiful 621 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: about that is that tones can create those same kinds 622 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: of patterns in the physical universe that fall into those 623 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: natural empathetic resonance patterns. And this can include everything, the fibonacci, 624 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: all these it's you know, the belief in the Sanskrit culture, 625 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: in Hinduism is that the ome, that symbol of home, 626 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: if people have ever seen that, actually came from a 627 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: scymatic meditation experience. And it's as if the sound that 628 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: you hear formed that pattern. Now what what does that 629 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: really mean? Though? That means that you can be in 630 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: the presence of some kind of sound and it can 631 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: have these kinds of effects on the physical body, like 632 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: the toning. I can make a simple I think that 633 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: for like three seconds, I feel very different, much more 634 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: at peace. Even my voice changed just from three seconds 635 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: of that. Well, Finatics is saying that essentially all of 636 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: the fractal, the fractal basis of the world, everything comes 637 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: literally from sound. And when they say things are spoken 638 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: into existence, that doesn't mean there's a big God, go 639 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: o d big long white beard needs up there speaking 640 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: things out. No no, no no, no, and and and and 641 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: no no. What that's saying is that when you open 642 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: your mouth consciously in a state of presence, you literally 643 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: are speaking as the mouth of God and understanding that 644 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: these patterns are the natural empathetic resonance of our experience 645 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: within this Literally we're living in a chapel of sound vibrations. 646 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: And my easiest question of all, after everything you've learned, 647 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: what is the meaning of life? What is the meaning 648 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: of life? The meaning of life is to uh make 649 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: sure to jump off the bridge when Clarence does so 650 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: that uh um. You know. For me, I don't have 651 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to put it that into words, 652 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: but I know what it feels like. And to me, 653 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: it feels like when I use words like open our 654 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: license plate. You know, here we are in West Ashall 655 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: our license plate says O P E N open. That's 656 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: my license plate. And of course people see my beautiful 657 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: wife who's a model, and they're like, what exactly does 658 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: that mean? She's like, whatever you think it means, sweetie, 659 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, But but it's like, no, it's just that 660 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: aspect of getting out of the way and allow that 661 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: natural expansion of that cosmic, the lactic, eternal, whatever you 662 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: want to call it, like God anything to birth through 663 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: us without us sort of mucking it up and trying 664 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: to put all of our philosophies on top of it, 665 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of like, what, let me put it this way, 666 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: what's the most important thing in life in the in 667 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: the birthing of a child. What's more important than anything 668 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: else in the birth of a child, It's that you go. Well, 669 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: the clock has almost got us. So before we wrap 670 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: up here, I want everybody to know about your current projects, 671 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: your upcoming projects. Of the floor is yours? Cool? So yeah, 672 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm you know, a lot of my work lately is 673 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: starting to get deeper into my my childhood growing up 674 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Uh, I was right on the edge 675 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: of course, the there's all the great cryptids like the 676 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: Jersey Devil and all of that. You know, we used 677 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: to go camping out in the pine barrens in the pines. 678 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: But I've been around, you know, pretty dark stuff since 679 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: I was a kid. We had animal sacrificing cults near 680 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: where I grew up. Um, I've always had this fascination 681 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: with what one could call demonology, and it's intriguing for me. 682 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: I couldn't explain how a tumor could go away in 683 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: someone's spine, but I do understand what a demon is, 684 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of my work right now I'm really 685 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: focusing in on creating more of a technology that people 686 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: can actually use to realize. As an example, you know, 687 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: in the ancient aramaic demon is you know here, I 688 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: have a little sound, here, there's vibration, there's residents frequency, 689 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: and demon is when I go to try to stop that, 690 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: and that's what happens from our beliefs. Whatever I'm really 691 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: starting to tune into, I don't know if it's another book, um, 692 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what it is. I think 693 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be probably something more like some kind 694 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: of an extended treat retreat where people can come and 695 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: spend a few days with me somewhere and start getting 696 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: into the realization of how do we voice those things out? Like, 697 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: as an example, cast out demon an aramaic shod in 698 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: a peck. That doesn't mean cast out a demon. This 699 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: is how you cast out a demon. You allow it 700 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: to voice. And that's the one thing that's holding people 701 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: back is trying not to feel those things within themselves. 702 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: They don't like the way they feel. And I have 703 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: been in the presence of absolute dark, disgusting, vile malevolence 704 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 1: in this kind of work. But above all, I'm really 705 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: seeking the show people how you can be in that space, 706 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: not by the hook and realize you don't get rid 707 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: of a demon by screaming the power of Christ compels you, 708 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 1: but by standing in its presence and removing anything within 709 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: you that is feeling even the slightest hesitation from that. 710 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: So you know right now, mine, I've been putting out 711 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: a lot on YouTube. Like I told people, follow me 712 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: on social media my website Dale l and Hoffman dot com. 713 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: But I've been cranking out on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, you know, Facebook, Twitter, 714 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Um, if people just follow and and 715 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: begin go to my website, sign up on the email 716 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: list because I'm always sending out free stuff. Um, I'm 717 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: the big focus of what I do right now. Actually, 718 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 1: I stopped a lot of the heavy travel. I'm working 719 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 1: with people one on one. I have a mentoring program 720 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: where people can come to me and whatever it is 721 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: they want to learn about, whether it's ancient aramatic teachings, toning, uh, spirituality, 722 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: whatever that may be. We can dig into that and 723 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: I can actually be there as a sounding board uh 724 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: in a way that not a lot of people on 725 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: this planet can be. Actually with the kind of experience 726 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: that I've got behind me. So, um, there's a lot 727 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: of different ways to approach what I'm doing. And then 728 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: I've got tons of audio programs out there. My book 729 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: is on Amazon, you know, so that I see myself 730 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: going more into the film aspect and more into some 731 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: kind of a visual audio visual production at this point. 732 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: So well, del you have been a great friend for 733 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: a long long time and I have always admired you 734 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: and your work and Lauren and I would love for 735 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 1: you to give our best to Loretta and your beautiful family. 736 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: I know you will continue to break new ground and 737 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: bring us all absolutely fascinating new concepts and exercises. So 738 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: we will stay in touch, and I thank you again 739 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: for being my guest. Awesome, thank you, brother, It's been beautiful. 740 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: And that was my whittled down interview with Dale Alan Hoffman. 741 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, we were talking off the air and I said, 742 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, you should just fly out here to Las 743 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: Vegas and we'll find a cozy little corner somewhere and 744 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: get a bottle of whiskey and turn on a camera 745 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: and just talk for hours, um and go as deep 746 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: as we can. Would you like to watch that? That 747 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: would be uh, that would be quite interesting. Don't you think, 748 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: But listen in the meantime, seriously, go to his website 749 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: Dale Alan Hoffman dot com and there's a lot of 750 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: good stuff there. But go to the products and there 751 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: are digital downloads there that you can access instantly. And 752 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: as I mentioned in the interview there, one of my 753 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: favorites from back of the day is called Innanna. It's 754 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: it's just audio. You just listen to this e in 755 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: a in a Innanna living from the I am um 756 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: and that would I don't know. I just listened to 757 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: it over and over again and it made quite an 758 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: impact on me. So, man, it's always so great to 759 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: talk to Dell. But I I think, uh, well, this 760 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: is probably gonna be my my last podcast of twenty 761 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: twenty two. I'm taking off the rest of the year 762 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: to catch up on some things, and so, uh God 763 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: bless you and yours and I cannot think of a 764 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 1: better way to end this podcast than for us all 765 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: to listen to a tone. Right, you know what I'm 766 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: talking about. Take a deep breath, close your eyes if 767 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: you can here it is the good Fortune tone. That's 768 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: it for this edition of the show. Follow me on 769 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: Twitter at Joshua pe Warren plus visit Joshua pe Warren 770 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up for my free e newsletter 771 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: to receive a free instant gift, and check out the 772 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: cool Stuff and the Curiosity Shop all at Joshua pe 773 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: Warren dot com. I have a fun one lined up 774 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: for you next time, I promise, so please tell all 775 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: your friends to subscribe to this show and to always 776 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, thank you 777 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: for your interest in support, thank you for staying curious, 778 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: and I We'll talk to you again soon. You've been 779 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and 780 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a um paranormal podcast Network. Thanks for 781 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 782 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 783 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: all our shows on the I Heart Radio app or 784 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: by going to I heart radio dot com