WEBVTT - Anne Winters

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Wish you fucking sounded like me when you see. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in such a great mood today, you guys. I am

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<v Speaker 1>blonde as a motherfucker. You guys, She's blonde, blonde, blonde baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, are you also freshly chopped? Yeah, she's blonde, blonde

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<v Speaker 5>and freshly chopped hair. I can't wait till she makes

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<v Speaker 5>a post or something because I'm excited for you guys

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<v Speaker 5>to see it. Best blonde I've ever seen, and I

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<v Speaker 5>know it's not kissing her ass. She walked in and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, I have to take a picture

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<v Speaker 5>of that for my own head.

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<v Speaker 1>Please kiss my ass because I need it today. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to do a good post because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been off of social media for a while. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can guess why. I'm just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>crawled into a hole, which I enjoy my whole sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just get grounded, get back to the roots.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we have an incredible female on the podcast Badass.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we say her name wrong?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so she's so sweet because we never got corrected.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name is spelled A Nne.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys already know by the title it's Anne Winters,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's pronounced Annie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but can I tell you because I've known who

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<v Speaker 1>she is for a really really long time and I've

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<v Speaker 1>always called her that and now I'm mortified.

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<v Speaker 3>But always.

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<v Speaker 5>But Stacy, our producer, did say she's heard other interviewers

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<v Speaker 5>call her Anne because it's spelled Anne, and Annie said

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<v Speaker 5>at the end, she goes, I go, I go by Annie,

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<v Speaker 5>so everyone thinks it's spelled ann i e.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's Annie. We say Anne.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like with Rihanna. She says her name Rihanna, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And Arianna Grande.

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<v Speaker 5>I think people say Arianna, but when she says it,

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<v Speaker 5>she says Arianna.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, or maybe it's the other way around. It's

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<v Speaker 4>one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie calls Ariana Maddix Arianna, and I've asked Arianna, do

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<v Speaker 1>you say it that way? And she's like either. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>your parents gave you one name, so what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm not walking around here being like Lauren, Laurien whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, it's Lauren. That's what my parents named me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Ariana, what did your parents name you?

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<v Speaker 4>It's Ariana And I don't know if that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>But I only say that because that's what I call her,

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<v Speaker 5>and I would feel bad if that's what it wasn't I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just love her that she was like either, I'm like there, yeah, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>someone will call your mama. I need to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh did we even mention that we're in a new space?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? That's where I was headed with us. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>please stick with me through this episode. We are officially

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<v Speaker 1>moved into Oh we've got a lot of work to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're moved into the new office space. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of walls that I need to like cover

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<v Speaker 1>so that it doesn't sound like this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a little echoey. Please stick with me through this

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<v Speaker 1>episode because I promise it'll be remedied by the next episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but we are in a new space and it's

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<v Speaker 4>very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>But those ads won't wait, motherfuckers. Those ads need to

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<v Speaker 1>be right. Anyway, We'll do a quick break and we

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<v Speaker 1>will be right back with Annie Winters. All right, my loves,

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<v Speaker 1>we are back, and I have to say I am

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed with the resume that my guest has at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>I have Anne Winters. Hello, my loves. Hello, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I have to say, I know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I've looked you up. I'm really shocked at like what

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<v Speaker 1>you've accomplished in your little lifetime, Like do you even

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<v Speaker 1>realize what you've done?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when I'm working a ton and flying back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth and working like twenty four seven, it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm doing a lot. But times like I have

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<v Speaker 2>right now where I'm kind of in a in between space,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I haven't done anything like this past week,

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<v Speaker 2>so it feels like I'm not doing anything. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>when I look at the overall trajectory of the career,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, good job. But I'm always like, when's

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<v Speaker 2>the next thing? Like I want to be said, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be working.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally get that.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, most of the people who I've come in

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<v Speaker 1>contact with who are very successful, they tend to like

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<v Speaker 1>they're proud of their accomplishments, but they're like, that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it's over, it's done.

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<v Speaker 3>What's next? Exactly one hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 2>So the minute, Like, honestly, this is the longest time

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<v Speaker 2>I've gone in the ten eleven years that i've been

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<v Speaker 2>here about being on set or booking another thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Has a lot to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I haven't been back in the room since

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<v Speaker 2>they don't do anything in person anymore, which is honestly

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<v Speaker 2>the only kind of way that I really, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>book things. I don't like self tapes. I like being

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<v Speaker 2>having an energy and that's usually how I wove people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right tape and being so kind of far away and disconnected.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been pretty challenging this past year after I wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>the Orville.

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<v Speaker 1>So you prefer being in the room rather than sending

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<v Speaker 1>in a tape?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Does in per even exists anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, That's what I'm saying. Like, since I wrapped the.

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<v Speaker 2>Last show that I was on, Wow, there has not

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<v Speaker 2>been one in person audition that I've had anywhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why a lot of my friends and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that I know moved really back

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<v Speaker 2>home or anywhere, because you can tape from anywhere, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you need to fly out then you can totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't audition much anymore, but I moved to LA

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<v Speaker 1>to be an actress, and I remember, like, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to put me in a room, because that's how I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I woo them, I create the you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine, that's how like me I feel like as actors

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<v Speaker 2>are just entertainers in general. It's kind of a performance

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to see the in person reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes I'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>It if I get to like a zoom meeting, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have like, you know, ten people on a zoom

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<v Speaker 2>and but the weird thing about that is everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of on mute and you can't face thiss, so

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<v Speaker 2>all you're looking at is yourself acting, which also is weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that makes me think of a good question. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you watch yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>I know Lala mentioned a couple of minutes ago a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of her friends and actors will do their project,

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<v Speaker 5>move on to the next.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you watch yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch it like once, when it's finally done, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't be you know, there's a lot of actors that

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<v Speaker 2>like to see the replay or like see which take

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<v Speaker 2>they like the best, and that kind of thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>trust whatever it looks like. But yeah, when the final

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<v Speaker 2>product comes out, I of course I love watching it,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when I feel really good about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's you know times.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I'm like oh yeah, that turned out pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like, oh, I could have done that

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<v Speaker 2>differently whatever, But yeah, moving on, moving on, But watch

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<v Speaker 2>myself in action, Like there's a difference between watching yourself

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<v Speaker 2>on a zoom meeting at a producer's call, like at

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<v Speaker 2>the scene, which, like you know, an audition is already

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<v Speaker 2>weird anyway. I mean, you're sitting against a background, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to someone, nothing's really real. When you have an

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<v Speaker 2>action seeing you have to pretend that you're doing all

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<v Speaker 2>this shit and it's looks ridiculous. So yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like an idiot when I'm looking at myself dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>But when I see it all come together and they

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<v Speaker 2>make it, you know, the movie Magic, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know What's so funny that I always think about this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like in high school, even you know, junior high the

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<v Speaker 1>theater kids, which I was a theater kid, are always

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<v Speaker 1>looked at as like the geeks, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>but then everyone is looking up to the actors, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who have like made it. It's always just so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Were you a theater geek? Like, were you

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<v Speaker 1>in not a geek? But you know that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>called us. I remember No.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly it's funny that you say that because at

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<v Speaker 2>my first school in middle school, I did a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of theater and then the minute I went in eighth

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<v Speaker 2>grade to a different high school and I met all

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<v Speaker 2>the theater kids, I was like, yeah, no, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>be brought.

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<v Speaker 3>Into this geek world here. No, absolutely not. I'll do cheerleading,

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<v Speaker 3>that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally look at you now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And also theater is a lot different.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's I get really like I always forgot

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<v Speaker 2>a line on stage. I got so nervous, and you

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<v Speaker 2>only have one time to do it, and there's like

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a comfortability knowing that a camera is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really close on your face to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to capture all the expressions that you have that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't really have on stage. That always just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>made me nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, totally, especially with that h D. Now I'm like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little close.

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<v Speaker 5>And speaking of that, I mean, I don't even think

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<v Speaker 5>we mentioned it, but you are obviously currently on the

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<v Speaker 5>Orville New Horizons on Hulu. I know that you work

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<v Speaker 5>alongside Seth MacFarlane.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, I'm geeking out right now because

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<v Speaker 1>like Family Guy is my jam. It's been my jam

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<v Speaker 1>since I was like since season one of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was young, Like what is it like to

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<v Speaker 1>work with him?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he definitely is a genius, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>funny because you're intimidated by him, and then when you

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<v Speaker 2>meet him you realize he's actually like a genius, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's really shy. He's a high human being, and he

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<v Speaker 2>puts on these big events. He has these big parties

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<v Speaker 2>he has. I feel like he's kind of the Great

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<v Speaker 2>Gatsby in a way, like big grand things, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>so good and he's so good at entertaining. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when you meet him in person or like anything personal,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like I see this, you know little kid that

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<v Speaker 2>like wanted to do Family Guy and do this thing

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<v Speaker 2>and he made a stream come true.

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<v Speaker 3>But the person inside is like this, you know this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of shyer person that.

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<v Speaker 2>I I mean, no one else may may know that,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you get to know him, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you called him that he's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Gatsby, Like that's the vibe, and I have to know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're a talented actress, So your range is all

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<v Speaker 1>across the board. You can do whatever. But was Thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>Reasons Why one of your like your big would you

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<v Speaker 1>call it your big break?

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean my followers and just like even the recognition

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<v Speaker 2>went from like I think I had twenty k followers

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<v Speaker 2>and then I went to like in like a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, crazy how much a show can have an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, it's also crazy

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<v Speaker 2>how much social media is so much different than like

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<v Speaker 2>what I attest to be my best work or like

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<v Speaker 2>something that's being recognized because it was just such a

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<v Speaker 2>big show and out in the public. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did some great work on that show, but I that

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be my necessarily like my favorite role or my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite you know, acting stuff that I would want to

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<v Speaker 2>show everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>That show was intense. It was like it pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>people's hearts. And do you have a genre that you

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<v Speaker 1>feel most comfortable in? Because you're going from like Thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>Reasons Why to like, you know, essentially a parody of

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<v Speaker 1>like outer space, So like what where do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>most comfortable?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, to the broader extent of it, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's in space, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>A drama whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But in each character that I'm doing, I find like

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<v Speaker 2>truth and realness behind it. So to me as the actor,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm it's not really like super different. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>costumes different, the tone might be different. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like just finding characters that have something really real

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<v Speaker 2>and true to portray. So, like Thirteen Reasons Why, I

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<v Speaker 2>had the storyline with Bryce, who was my boyfriend, and

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<v Speaker 2>he great me and we have a big you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this scenario, I have a friend that died

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy that's working alongside of me, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to work with him, and the stakes are still high

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<v Speaker 2>in different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, I just look for anything challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you're like a true You're like a

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<v Speaker 1>true artist.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well that's hard to find. Because I moved out

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<v Speaker 1>to LA and I wanted to be an actress, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I saw that the game had really changed. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, sorry, my baby's here. If you can hear

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<v Speaker 1>her screaming, she's saying hi to everybody. I just saw that,

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<v Speaker 1>like being an influencer was what people were gravit, like

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<v Speaker 1>casting directors were gravitating towards like are they going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a lot of viewers. They have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million followers on Instagram or whatever it may have

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<v Speaker 1>been at the time. That was intimidating, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to find, especially at your age, women who are

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<v Speaker 1>really into the craft.

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<v Speaker 2>Still it's hard to I mean, yeah, it's hard in

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<v Speaker 2>this scenario one hundred percent because you do have the

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<v Speaker 2>social media coming into it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've gotten beat out of many roles.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of not enough followers over you know, TikTok whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>And I really hope, like in the long run that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm not saying that TikTok or YouTubers

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<v Speaker 2>could not be great actresses or actors because I did

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<v Speaker 2>work with Key and Lawley, who I was like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a YouTuber, like he's going to be like terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, he's really good. I really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>working with him, and he took this job super seriously

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<v Speaker 2>and took me by surprise. So I'm not saying it

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't happen, but I don't like that for that to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of a something that.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to have, and I hope that kind of ends.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually really difficult right now because there's like I

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<v Speaker 2>have an influencer look on Instagram, and unless I'm showing

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<v Speaker 2>the shows that I'm on or on set every day,

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<v Speaker 2>which you can't post, by the way, so I look

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<v Speaker 2>to the audience and a lot of my followers like

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<v Speaker 2>an Instagram model sometimes, so I kind of battle that

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<v Speaker 2>line between influencer and actress. And it's been hard, like

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<v Speaker 2>branding and all those things. I'm like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to sell myself short I would like to do this, or.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't like to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a weird balance right now that's going on

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<v Speaker 2>for actors that are taking it seriously and also looking

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<v Speaker 2>like they really love social media unlike a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the people on their two reasons why I maybe barely

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<v Speaker 2>post anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, right, do you relate to I know your

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<v Speaker 5>character on the Orvial is Charlie, right, Charlie Burke.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you relate to her at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I relate to her in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of getting a job done at all costs, and like

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I am on set. Day on set was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my hardest scenes, and everyone's like, how is

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<v Speaker 2>everyone like welcoming you and all this stuff. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even I don't fucking know. I literally went

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<v Speaker 2>in with like my eyes like on the job and

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't care about really even meeting anyone. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, I just want to do an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>job at what I'm doing and being just disciplined focused

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<v Speaker 2>on the job at hand. I feel like is there,

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<v Speaker 2>and the badass kind of like cool quality is there.

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<v Speaker 2>But other than that, her relationship with Isaac and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never gone through something like that to hate someone

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<v Speaker 2>at that level, So I can't relate to that personally,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can put myself in her shoes and understand

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, if that happened, I would yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And speaking of you, said, you know, how's everyone treating you?

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<v Speaker 5>And the guest actors for this season are like out

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<v Speaker 5>of this world. There's like Ted Danson, Elizabeth Gillies, you

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<v Speaker 5>have I wrote it, Oh, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 4>Knox, Bill Layton Measter. Did you get to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>talk to any of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I got to talk to Liz Gillies, which is

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<v Speaker 2>funny because I told her that I've gotten told a

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<v Speaker 2>lot that I look like I look like her or

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<v Speaker 2>remind people of her, so I was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, this might be super weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just got told I look like you. Of

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<v Speaker 3>course she's in that like full alien cossume and she's

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<v Speaker 3>looking at Oh yeah, that's I agree. I wish I

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<v Speaker 3>got to eat more.

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<v Speaker 2>I do know that we have like a very special

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<v Speaker 2>like one of my favorite country singers. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I can say, but oh my god, she's a

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<v Speaker 2>legend and she's going to be in an upcoming episode

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wish I got to meet her. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>And even they have this like new technology where they

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<v Speaker 2>like aged like it's like basically a face tune, but

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe like for whatever, where they can age someone

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<v Speaker 2>down in real time and you got to like legend

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<v Speaker 2>singer in like a real life I don't know when

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<v Speaker 2>she was maybe thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if like that's the same technology that Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Scorsese used on like al Pacino and Robert de Niro

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<v Speaker 1>in The Irishman. It was like the first time they

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<v Speaker 1>had ever done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, I wonder. It's like so shocked, I mean to us,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like so simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I mean that's easy, like face tune

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, but I guess it's a whole other.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, no, we're not using face tuned video. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're from Dallas, Texas. By the way, I went to Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas on my tour, and I was like, I'm moving here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moving here tomorrow if I could.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no why I mean maybe Austin, Texas, But why Dallas?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you want to move there?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was really granted. I spent like

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<v Speaker 1>less than twenty four hours there, so just know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've just like, I felt like it was clean.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a big enough city to where you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, Okay, I'm like not in the sticks. I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not bad. It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I have both lives there. My my sister lives in Uptown,

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<v Speaker 2>which is nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it is nice. I just feel like everything kind

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<v Speaker 3>of looks the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm in a what's that movie with Truman,

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<v Speaker 2>The Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 1>The Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like every every house, like every neighborhood has

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<v Speaker 2>three different bills that you can build from, and they

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<v Speaker 2>only build from that floor plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Like you get to pick your.

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<v Speaker 2>Brick color and the floor plan and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So your family stayed in Dallas. No one moved here

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<v Speaker 4>with you.

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<v Speaker 3>No I moved out. No. I moved out here at

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That is crazy to me. So did you graduate from

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<v Speaker 1>high school?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I made a point to do that. I needed

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<v Speaker 2>at least the high school graduation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did fly a lot, Like I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the school that kind of worked with me. So I

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<v Speaker 2>missed probably half the year my sophomore year. I took

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<v Speaker 2>junior year off of acting because I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do acting or go to college, and

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<v Speaker 2>junior year as like the biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>Like college theater.

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<v Speaker 2>So I applied everywhere and I took junior year really seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>And had my first boyfriend. So that was why I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to act.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you know, as a sophomore, I when

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<v Speaker 2>I first started coming out here a pilot season, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember having a crush on this guy and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like so nervous because he asked me to be his girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my god, what does that

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<v Speaker 2>even mean? Like you're gonna like does that mean you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna meet me at my locker every day?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I have to like kiss you in front of me?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna come over to my house?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>All those thoughts is like a kid that's never like

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<v Speaker 2>I was very sheltered, didn't do anything. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>nervous when he wanted to be my boyfriend, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like no, no, no no, but I really liked him anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>come out.

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<v Speaker 3>Here for like a couple months.

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<v Speaker 2>I go back and he's dating like one of my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my god, I missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I missed homecoming, I miss prom, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so all those things happened, and it was like sophomore

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<v Speaker 2>year when you're wanting all those you know, fun experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>So I took junior year off, had my first boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and was like I don't know if I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to do acting or be a normal like kid go

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<v Speaker 2>to college with all my friends. And then I basically

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<v Speaker 2>saw all my friends going to different places and the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money, and I went to college tours and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I do not see myself living here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me there's like one strip mall and a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of bars and we're going to go here every

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<v Speaker 2>single weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the life that we're going to be living.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So then I'm are you bummed that you missed

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<v Speaker 1>out on those moments like your your high school dance

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<v Speaker 1>and like having the boyfriend who then went with your

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<v Speaker 1>hook or friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding, no, no, because I made up for

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<v Speaker 2>it my junior year. My junior year, I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit crank ray and then my senior year I

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<v Speaker 2>also had there. I went to three different proms, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was fine, I got it all.

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<v Speaker 1>So you made up for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I made up for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, and then I was like, Okay, let

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<v Speaker 2>me go and see if I can actually like make this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I still was planning on going to a college

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<v Speaker 2>out here, so I did like a community college to

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<v Speaker 2>get at least courses done because I deferred to SMU

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<v Speaker 2>in Dallas and I wanted to have at least all

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<v Speaker 2>my credits. And then my first week I booked a

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.640
<v Speaker 2>movie in Indiana and they were like, you can't do both.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the universe. The universe had its plan for you

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.879
<v Speaker 1>all along. I have to know what does your family

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>think of everything you're doing, because you know so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I told my high school counselor my

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<v Speaker 1>big dream, and she was like, that's great for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's think of reality. And like, granted I told

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<v Speaker 1>her I was going to win Oscars and I am

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<v Speaker 1>on a reality TV show, so it didn't go exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how I planned. But nevertheless, people know who I am,

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.719
<v Speaker 1>so that part does exist. But like, you had this

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<v Speaker 1>big plan and you fucking did it. Like what do

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<v Speaker 1>people thinks?

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<v Speaker 3>What's really funny is my high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to show to them, but I do because

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<v Speaker 2>they really like glorify all the sports or anything that

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<v Speaker 2>makes them look good as a school. And my parents

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<v Speaker 2>just left because there's been so many like newspapers things

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<v Speaker 2>like this about stars or whatever. They have yet to

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<v Speaker 2>mention my name coming from the school, not once, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on shows that are controversial or talking about things

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<v Speaker 2>that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want their kids to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a private school, by the way, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why they had this twenty four hour policy. Wait

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<v Speaker 2>the side note or twenty four twenty four hour all

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<v Speaker 2>days a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, if anyone from the school caught you that was like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, you know, drinking at a party or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, and doing anything that was illegal, not fuck

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<v Speaker 2>now I saw my not like in the general. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but if they caught you doing anything that would would

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<v Speaker 2>I go against or would.

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<v Speaker 3>Go against the school?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it could get suspended and they could tell from

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday morning or Sunday night whenever, even if you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>at school what on doing something, and you would get suspended.

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<v Speaker 2>I had multiple friends get suspended throughout high school.

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<v Speaker 4>But you never got suspended.

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<v Speaker 2>I never got suspended. Actually, well wait, expelled expelled, you

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 2>would get expelled. I did get suspended, suspended as different

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<v Speaker 2>expelled is done forever for a little bit of time.

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<v Speaker 2>I got suspended because I rolled my skirt too many times,

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<v Speaker 2>got in trouble for my short skirt too many times,

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and then I was supposed to wear leggings underneath, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I wouldn't, so I just got in trouble for

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<v Speaker 2>dress code violations.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they measure your skirt?

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<v Speaker 3>They would, Yeah, it was like four inches from the

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<v Speaker 3>me me.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's crazy though, because I'm like, I'm sure, so

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing that I can really show in this

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 2>ugly ass, you know, is my legs.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just would always roll my skirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everyone did that though, Like at my school.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to public school in Utah, but like they

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<v Speaker 1>used your your arms and your fingertips as like the

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:04.879
<v Speaker 1>measuring device, and I was like, this is unfair because

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I have like really long arms in my fingers are

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>also abnormally long, So not fair, yeah, right, Like.

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Why can't we measure the arm to finger for everybody

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 2>and also like count that because it's not fair. And

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<v Speaker 2>I were, you know, objectifying women's arm lengths.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. See, it's a vicious cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>But my parents, my family, people around me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean my dad was definitely very skeptical at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>just because he wanted to make sure that I was.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want it to be you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to move out to LA and like be a

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<v Speaker 2>waitress and then not work and just like move out

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<v Speaker 2>to LA.

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<v Speaker 3>And be in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's such a like Texan, like I'm so scared

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<v Speaker 2>of Melrose. I'm so scared of like daughter moving to LA.

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<v Speaker 2>So I really had to prove it to him for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But then once I like book something and then another

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 2>thing comes, another I think comes you know, the trust

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 2>is there and totally totally is supportive of me, and

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 2>they watch everything that I'm in.

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 3>They're my biggest fan.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have to say, because your dad is a

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Texas man, he was obviously worried about you, and he

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to come correct and like have a good

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>head on your shoulders. I got all of that. I'm

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>going to take it a little deep for one second,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're obviously absolutely stunning and at the age of seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know what Hollywood is like, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>very nervous, like sending my kid at the age of

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>seventeen to a place like this and having these producers

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote say that they've got a nice project for

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you to come in and read for, and then all

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of the sudden, you know, things go south and he

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>gets you. You know, we're not naive to the fact

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that Hollywood can get scary, and it's very important that

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you whoever you're meeting with, they got their credentials. You're

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>coming in it's professional, Like was that something that that was?

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, you moved out ten years ago, but did

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<v Speaker 1>not go through your parents' head at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it did. And honestly, I will say that

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 3>I've just.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a really good head on my shoulders coming out here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am like a Christian, and I value the

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts that I have and like the feelings that I get.

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 3>In a room.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were times when I would go into a

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 2>room and have an audition and feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable and I would leave.

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I really would.

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, sorry, I'm going to leave, And that

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 2>has happened before. But the funny thing is is my

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>first boyfriend out here when I was seventeen, was twenty

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>seven and was a producer. But he just only was

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 2>a really really really nice nice guy and things didn't

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>work out.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 3>But it was not ever hear to me.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>But I have walked out of multiple situations out here

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood. I've said no to plenty of things, and

0:25:56.240 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I believe out here, which I you know, I hate

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 2>to say that with just such confidence like demeaning or

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, not to say that it wasn't just so

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>easy to say no in like a certain situation. But

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I come across like I have a very

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>like don't talk to me attitude, especially in rooms where

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a lot of men and I

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 2>could be maybe in a vulnerable situation to where I

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>put up like just such a guard and unless it was,

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, out of my control. I'm very good at

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 2>like kind of sensing something a little bit off and

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>being like, you know, I'm.

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get off.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you trust your gun?

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah I do, and yeah, willing to walk away, which

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 5>is huge for actors, especially not being born here and

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 5>moving here and like, I got to prove myself very intimidating. Yes,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 5>it's like you can easily purposefully overlook things and be like, Okay,

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 5>I didn't see that. Just keep trucking along because I've

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 5>got to get this role, and or.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Your dreams are so big and you don't want anything

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.959
<v Speaker 1>to stand in the way. It does, it gets you know,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not blind to it. But I going back to

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>your twenty seven year old boyfriend, I can just imagine

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>your big Texas dad wanting to behead him.

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh but I didn't tell him that I was dating.

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I'm sure he doesn't listen to the Give

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Them Laila podcast. I don't think he would be hunting

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>him down anytime.

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean he knows now we have a very honest,

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>open relationship. I mean there's really not much he can

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 2>do now that I pay my own bill. Money used

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to be like something that he could be like, oh,

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking that away, or like you can't have your phone,

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 2>But now it's like we're friends, Like I'll let you know.

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>He just I had a tracker. Oh I did, though

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>have a tracker on my phone in my par when

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I first.

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Moved out here for the first two years.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would. Also I would do that to my

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>daughter Ocean.

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 5>Well there's the Apple tracker, thinks now.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 4>But I am so fascinated in the fact.

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 5>So you are you're optioning or you've already optioned, and

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 5>you're producing the unraveling of Cassidy Holmes, Like how did

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 5>that come about?

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Is that a book you read? And you were like,

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I have this has to be made?

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 3>Are you?

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Are you?

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 5>Is it going to be starring you? Have you not

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 5>got that far? Like tell us all about that because

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 5>that's fascinating to me.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>So basically my first week on set of The Orville

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I got called into Fuzzy Door Production's office to talk

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to the president, Erica Huggins about just like the future

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 2>like after the show and they have this whole production company.

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>So she was like, basically, what is your dream role

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>if we ever have something come down the line like

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>we would love to work with you afterwards. You've done

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>such a great job in addition to the show whatever.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh my gosh, you've ever been

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>asked like that.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm normally like, can I just please get whatever's on

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>these sides?

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 3>So I really it got me thinking.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>And then shortly after COVID happened, so I'm you know,

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>left with nothing to do but read. And I was thinking,

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to find like a book or just you know,

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>if I ever read something that was really fun, I

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>could I could you know, turn this into something maybe

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 2>or even just get an idea to bring back.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 3>To the fuzzy door.

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So I read this book. I was a part of

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>this book of the Month club. It was like new

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>books that would come out, and I was like, I

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>have nothing else to do, so I'm just gonna read

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>this anyway. I read it the authors from Austin, Texas.

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>And this book is basically like all my favorite things.

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like pop in the nineties, like kind of Spice

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Girls era with all the drama and all the new

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>age stuff of the me too and things like that

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 2>that are happening nowadays like all.

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>In this book.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>And also just a pop star in like Christina Aguilera

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>and like that whole just that whole nineties.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Two thousands was my jam my vibe.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>So when I read this, I was like, this could

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>totally be made into such a really cool story right now.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so I optioned the book. I took it

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to Fuzzy Door. They signed on now have Universal Studios

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>on it, and we have a showrunner and her name

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>was Karen.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 3>She's do you guys have the song U g l

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 3>y you ain't gonna yes?

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Of course, So she was the singer of that song

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and her and it was her and her friend that

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>would go around and sing that song. It was kind

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>of like that, and I think they had a couple others,

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's their most you know, famous one.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 3>So she's from that era and she was like a

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 3>pop star in that era.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>And now she's a writer for Universal Studios and she's

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 2>writing our story.

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Holy cow, I have chills for.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>You, And we have good music coming from Republic Records

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be written. It's all kind of like in

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>the works. But now at this point we are pitching

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>it to different streaming platforms to see like who we

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>are going to go with that's kind of out right now.

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>But yes, I'll be in it. I'm not going to

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>be the main character. I really like I was into

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 2>another one of the girls in the band. I mean

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of an ensoulid cast, but I really like

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>gravitated towards this girl.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 3>And her name is Rose. That's kind of why I

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 3>died my hair too.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I have to read this book now.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big reader, and I need to read this

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>before your show comes out.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 3>It's really like easy read. It's one of those that

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 3>it's just easy to read, like you'll be like, oh

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I'm halfway through.

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's going to be, you know, like they

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>show any anything that's based off the book, it's a

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>little bit different.

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 3>So it's going to be a little a little changed.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 5>Because you sing, right, yeah, okay, you're a singer, so

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 5>will you be singing in this yes.

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>But I'm hoping to get like a way like better

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>couple singers to kind of carry me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We need like a good a really like powerhouse singer

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<v Speaker 2>and a really great dancer to kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ease the the flow of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, all right, bring them on elevate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the best. I'm not like Ariana Grande, which

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<v Speaker 3>I wish you know, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is who is except maybe Mariah Carey, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to find one like that that's also you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good at acting. You know, you have to find within acting,

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<v Speaker 2>singing and dancing. When you have a group of four girls,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to find different qualities that are the

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<v Speaker 2>best in others or whatever that we can kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, make it to be a good group.

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<v Speaker 1>So will you be able like when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>have these these girls audition and you come up with

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<v Speaker 1>like the final four or however money you'll be watching

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<v Speaker 1>their tapes. Yeah, oh my god, that's my dream. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my dream job is to be a casting director.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, it's so well.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I'm sure you could go and sit

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<v Speaker 2>in any casting director session. I mean I used to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You could go into a casting director and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, can.

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<v Speaker 3>I be the reader? Can I be the reader of

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<v Speaker 3>the casting session?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I would love that, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stress. It's make or break. You're

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<v Speaker 1>putting a character in a role that could completely fuck

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<v Speaker 1>up the whole show.

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<v Speaker 5>And also I have to say, if I'm an actor

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm walking into an audition.

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<v Speaker 4>Granted I know they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Mostly on tape, but if you guys are like sitting

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<v Speaker 5>in a casting session and I have to walk in

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<v Speaker 5>and I know one of you that's going.

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<v Speaker 4>To add a little pressure to me, I would be nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, definitely, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened to me before. One of my best girlfriends, like

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<v Speaker 2>was in this one cast. It was like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a horror movie or something, which are always like the

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<v Speaker 2>weirdest ones to go into a room because you have

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<v Speaker 2>to ignore like a half a page of like directions

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<v Speaker 2>that are happening, or you're being thrown up to the

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling or like thrown to the wall, and then like

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<v Speaker 2>still be dramatic.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was so nervous. I completely felt like, oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I just totally half asked that and did not

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<v Speaker 2>do well because my best friend was reading with me.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so weird. Didn't book it, did not book

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<v Speaker 3>that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even you can't win them all, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>need those humbling moments.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very humbling.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for you and everything you have going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people watch the Oreville?

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<v Speaker 3>They can watch it? On Hulu. I'm sure you can

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<v Speaker 3>go and buy it on like iTunes if you want to.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, Hulu, let's plug your Instagram too, not like

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<v Speaker 5>people don't know it, but you have a chic Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it is so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I just try to ride a lot of like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not the only model person on Instagram, but yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>do like love my outfits, and I do love taking

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<v Speaker 2>photos and I do like posting selfies. But I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>like a really great actress, so like this is where

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be high right, look at me if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. What's your gram?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? My Instagram is at Ann Winters.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that because a n N E w I

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<v Speaker 2>n t r s I go buy Annie.

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<v Speaker 3>But if people are going to look me up and

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<v Speaker 3>I say Annie, they usually put an I in. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's just at a n N E Winters.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect. I love it. Thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>me on my podcast today. You're amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you so much. I had so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I had so much fun to congratulations on all of

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<v Speaker 1>your success.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much,