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Speaker 2: Beautiful.

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Speaker 3: You guys.

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Speaker 1: Wish you fucking sounded like me when you see. I'm

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Speaker 1: in such a great mood today, you guys. I am

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Speaker 1: blonde as a motherfucker. You guys, She's blonde, blonde, blonde baby.

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Speaker 5: Wait, are you also freshly chopped? Yeah, she's blonde, blonde

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Speaker 5: and freshly chopped hair. I can't wait till she makes

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Speaker 5: to see it. Best blonde I've ever seen, and I

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Speaker 5: know it's not kissing her ass. She walked in and

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I have to take a picture

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Speaker 5: of that for my own head.

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Speaker 1: Please kiss my ass because I need it today. And

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Speaker 1: I do want to do a good post because I've

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Speaker 1: been off of social media for a while. I think

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Speaker 1: you guys can guess why. I'm just kind of like

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Speaker 1: crawled into a hole, which I enjoy my whole sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, just get grounded, get back to the roots.

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Speaker 1: And today we have an incredible female on the podcast Badass.

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Speaker 1: Did we say her name wrong?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so she's so sweet because we never got corrected.

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Speaker 4: Her name is spelled A Nne.

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Speaker 5: You guys already know by the title it's Anne Winters,

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Speaker 5: but it's pronounced Annie.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but can I tell you because I've known who

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Speaker 3: But always.

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Speaker 5: But Stacy, our producer, did say she's heard other interviewers

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Speaker 5: call her Anne because it's spelled Anne, and Annie said

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Speaker 5: at the end, she goes, I go, I go by Annie,

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Speaker 5: so everyone thinks it's spelled ann i e.

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Speaker 4: So it's Annie. We say Anne.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like with Rihanna. She says her name Rihanna, yes.

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Speaker 4: And Arianna Grande.

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Speaker 5: I think people say Arianna, but when she says it,

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Speaker 1: Katie calls Ariana Maddix Arianna, and I've asked Arianna, do

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Speaker 1: you say it that way? And she's like either. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not walking around here being like Lauren, Laurien whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's Lauren. That's what my parents named me.

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Speaker 1: Like Ariana, what did your parents name you?

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Speaker 4: It's Ariana And I don't know if that's right.

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Speaker 5: But I only say that because that's what I call her,

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Speaker 5: and I would feel bad if that's what it wasn't I.

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Speaker 1: Just love her that she was like either, I'm like there, yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: someone will call your mama. I need to ask you

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Speaker 5: Oh did we even mention that we're in a new space?

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Speaker 1: Oh? That's where I was headed with us. You guys,

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Speaker 1: please stick with me through this episode. We are officially

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Speaker 1: moved into Oh we've got a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 1: but we're moved into the new office space. I have

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Speaker 1: We're a little echoey. Please stick with me through this

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Speaker 4: Right, but we are in a new space and it's

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Speaker 1: be right. Anyway, We'll do a quick break and we

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Speaker 1: will be right back with Annie Winters. All right, my loves,

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Speaker 1: we are back, and I have to say I am

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Speaker 3: I have Anne Winters. Hello, my loves. Hello, thank you

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Speaker 3: for having me.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I have to say, I know who you are.

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Speaker 1: I've looked you up. I'm really shocked at like what

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Speaker 3: What's next? Exactly one hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: So the minute, Like, honestly, this is the longest time

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Speaker 2: Last show that I was on, Wow, there has not

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Speaker 2: Mine, that's how like me I feel like as actors

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Speaker 3: And sometimes I'll get.

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Speaker 3: Into this geek world here. No, absolutely not. I'll do cheerleading,

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Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, I'm geeking out right now because

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Speaker 2: I mean, he definitely is a genius, and it's just

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Speaker 3: But the person inside is like this, you know this

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Speaker 1: across the board. You can do whatever. But was Thirteen

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Speaker 1: Reasons Why one of your like your big would you

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: No, So then I'm are you bummed that you missed

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Speaker 2: I was fine, I got it all.

444
00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: So you made up for it.

445
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 3: I made up for it.

446
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then I was like, Okay, let

447
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 2: me go and see if I can actually like make this.

448
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 2: And I still was planning on going to a college

449
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: out here, so I did like a community college to

450
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 2: get at least courses done because I deferred to SMU

451
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,479
Speaker 2: in Dallas and I wanted to have at least all

452
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: my credits. And then my first week I booked a

453
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 2: movie in Indiana and they were like, you can't do both.

454
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,199
Speaker 1: Oh the universe. The universe had its plan for you

455
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 1: all along. I have to know what does your family

456
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 1: think of everything you're doing, because you know so many people.

457
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: I remember when I told my high school counselor my

458
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: big dream, and she was like, that's great for you,

459
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: but let's think of reality. And like, granted I told

460
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 1: her I was going to win Oscars and I am

461
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: on a reality TV show, so it didn't go exactly

462
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: how I planned. But nevertheless, people know who I am,

463
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 1: so that part does exist. But like, you had this

464
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: big plan and you fucking did it. Like what do

465
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: people thinks?

466
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: What's really funny is my high school.

467
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: I hate to show to them, but I do because

468
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 2: they really like glorify all the sports or anything that

469
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 2: makes them look good as a school. And my parents

470
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: just left because there's been so many like newspapers things

471
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: like this about stars or whatever. They have yet to

472
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: mention my name coming from the school, not once, because

473
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm on shows that are controversial or talking about things

474
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: that they.

475
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: Don't want their kids to watch.

476
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,479
Speaker 2: I went to a private school, by the way, Okay,

477
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: that's why they had this twenty four hour policy. Wait

478
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: the side note or twenty four twenty four hour all

479
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: days a week.

480
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: Whatever.

481
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, if anyone from the school caught you that was like,

482
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 2: let's say, you know, drinking at a party or I

483
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: don't know, and doing anything that was illegal, not fuck

484
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: now I saw my not like in the general. Okay,

485
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 2: but if they caught you doing anything that would would

486
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 2: I go against or would.

487
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: Go against the school?

488
00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it could get suspended and they could tell from

489
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: Saturday morning or Sunday night whenever, even if you weren't

490
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: at school what on doing something, and you would get suspended.

491
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: I had multiple friends get suspended throughout high school.

492
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: But you never got suspended.

493
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: I never got suspended. Actually, well wait, expelled expelled, you

494
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: would get expelled. I did get suspended, suspended as different

495
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: expelled is done forever for a little bit of time.

496
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: I got suspended because I rolled my skirt too many times,

497
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 2: got in trouble for my short skirt too many times,

498
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: and then I was supposed to wear leggings underneath, and

499
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: then I wouldn't, so I just got in trouble for

500
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: dress code violations.

501
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 4: Did they measure your skirt?

502
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: They would, Yeah, it was like four inches from the

503
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: me me.

504
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: But that's crazy though, because I'm like, I'm sure, so

505
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: the only thing that I can really show in this

506
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: ugly ass, you know, is my legs.

507
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 3: So I just would always roll my skirt.

508
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone did that though, Like at my school.

509
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: I went to public school in Utah, but like they

510
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: used your your arms and your fingertips as like the

511
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: measuring device, and I was like, this is unfair because

512
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: I have like really long arms in my fingers are

513
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: also abnormally long, So not fair, yeah, right, Like.

514
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: Why can't we measure the arm to finger for everybody

515
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 2: and also like count that because it's not fair. And

516
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: I were, you know, objectifying women's arm lengths.

517
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: Right. See, it's a vicious cycle.

518
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: But my parents, my family, people around me.

519
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: I mean my dad was definitely very skeptical at the beginning,

520
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 2: just because he wanted to make sure that I was.

521
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: He didn't want it to be you know, I'm just

522
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: going to move out to LA and like be a

523
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 2: waitress and then not work and just like move out

524
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: to LA.

525
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: And be in Hollywood.

526
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: And he's such a like Texan, like I'm so scared

527
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: of Melrose. I'm so scared of like daughter moving to LA.

528
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: So I really had to prove it to him for sure.

529
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: But then once I like book something and then another

530
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: thing comes, another I think comes you know, the trust

531
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: is there and totally totally is supportive of me, and

532
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: they watch everything that I'm in.

533
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: They're my biggest fan.

534
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: So I have to say, because your dad is a

535
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: Texas man, he was obviously worried about you, and he

536
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: wanted you to come correct and like have a good

537
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: head on your shoulders. I got all of that. I'm

538
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: going to take it a little deep for one second,

539
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: because you're obviously absolutely stunning and at the age of seventeen,

540
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: because I know what Hollywood is like, I would be

541
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: very nervous, like sending my kid at the age of

542
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: seventeen to a place like this and having these producers

543
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: quote unquote say that they've got a nice project for

544
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: you to come in and read for, and then all

545
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: of the sudden, you know, things go south and he

546
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: gets you. You know, we're not naive to the fact

547
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: that Hollywood can get scary, and it's very important that

548
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: you whoever you're meeting with, they got their credentials. You're

549
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: coming in it's professional, Like was that something that that was?

550
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: You know, you moved out ten years ago, but did

551
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: not go through your parents' head at all.

552
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure it did. And honestly, I will say that

553
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: I've just.

554
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: Had a really good head on my shoulders coming out here,

555
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 2: and I am like a Christian, and I value the

556
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: thoughts that I have and like the feelings that I get.

557
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: In a room.

558
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: And there were times when I would go into a

559
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: room and have an audition and feel a little bit

560
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: uncomfortable and I would leave.

561
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: I really would.

562
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: I'd be like, sorry, I'm going to leave, And that

563
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: has happened before. But the funny thing is is my

564
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: first boyfriend out here when I was seventeen, was twenty

565
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: seven and was a producer. But he just only was

566
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: a really really really nice nice guy and things didn't

567
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: work out.

568
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: But it was not ever hear to me.

569
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: But I have walked out of multiple situations out here

570
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: in Hollywood. I've said no to plenty of things, and

571
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: I believe out here, which I you know, I hate

572
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: to say that with just such confidence like demeaning or

573
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: you know, not to say that it wasn't just so

574
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: easy to say no in like a certain situation. But

575
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: I think I come across like I have a very

576
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: like don't talk to me attitude, especially in rooms where

577
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of men and I

578
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: could be maybe in a vulnerable situation to where I

579
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: put up like just such a guard and unless it was,

580
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: you know, out of my control. I'm very good at

581
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: like kind of sensing something a little bit off and

582
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: being like, you know, I'm.

583
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get off.

584
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you trust your gun?

585
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 5: Yeah I do, and yeah, willing to walk away, which

586
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 5: is huge for actors, especially not being born here and

587
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 5: moving here and like, I got to prove myself very intimidating. Yes,

588
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 5: it's like you can easily purposefully overlook things and be like, Okay,

589
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 5: I didn't see that. Just keep trucking along because I've

590
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 5: got to get this role, and or.

591
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: Your dreams are so big and you don't want anything

592
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: to stand in the way. It does, it gets you know,

593
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: I'm not blind to it. But I going back to

594
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: your twenty seven year old boyfriend, I can just imagine

595
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: your big Texas dad wanting to behead him.

596
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh but I didn't tell him that I was dating.

597
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm sure he doesn't listen to the Give

598
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: Them Laila podcast. I don't think he would be hunting

599
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: him down anytime.

600
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: I mean he knows now we have a very honest,

601
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: open relationship. I mean there's really not much he can

602
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: do now that I pay my own bill. Money used

603
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: to be like something that he could be like, oh,

604
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: I'm taking that away, or like you can't have your phone,

605
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: But now it's like we're friends, Like I'll let you know.

606
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: He just I had a tracker. Oh I did, though

607
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: have a tracker on my phone in my par when

608
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: I first.

609
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Moved out here for the first two years.

610
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: Yes, I would. Also I would do that to my

611
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: daughter Ocean.

612
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 5: Well there's the Apple tracker, thinks now.

613
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: But I am so fascinated in the fact.

614
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 5: So you are you're optioning or you've already optioned, and

615
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 5: you're producing the unraveling of Cassidy Holmes, Like how did

616
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: that come about?

617
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: Is that a book you read? And you were like,

618
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: I have this has to be made?

619
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: Are you?

620
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: Are you?

621
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: Is it going to be starring you? Have you not

622
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: got that far? Like tell us all about that because

623
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: that's fascinating to me.

624
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: Yes.

625
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: So basically my first week on set of The Orville

626
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: I got called into Fuzzy Door Production's office to talk

627
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: to the president, Erica Huggins about just like the future

628
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: like after the show and they have this whole production company.

629
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: So she was like, basically, what is your dream role

630
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: if we ever have something come down the line like

631
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: we would love to work with you afterwards. You've done

632
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: such a great job in addition to the show whatever.

633
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my gosh, you've ever been

634
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: asked like that.

635
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm normally like, can I just please get whatever's on

636
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: these sides?

637
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: So I really it got me thinking.

638
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: And then shortly after COVID happened, so I'm you know,

639
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: left with nothing to do but read. And I was thinking,

640
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: I want to find like a book or just you know,

641
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: if I ever read something that was really fun, I

642
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: could I could you know, turn this into something maybe

643
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: or even just get an idea to bring back.

644
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: To the fuzzy door.

645
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: So I read this book. I was a part of

646
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: this book of the Month club. It was like new

647
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: books that would come out, and I was like, I

648
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: have nothing else to do, so I'm just gonna read

649
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: this anyway. I read it the authors from Austin, Texas.

650
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: And this book is basically like all my favorite things.

651
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: It's like pop in the nineties, like kind of Spice

652
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Girls era with all the drama and all the new

653
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: age stuff of the me too and things like that

654
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: that are happening nowadays like all.

655
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: In this book.

656
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: And also just a pop star in like Christina Aguilera

657
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: and like that whole just that whole nineties.

658
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: Two thousands was my jam my vibe.

659
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: So when I read this, I was like, this could

660
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: totally be made into such a really cool story right now.

661
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I optioned the book. I took it

662
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: to Fuzzy Door. They signed on now have Universal Studios

663
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: on it, and we have a showrunner and her name

664
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: was Karen.

665
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: She's do you guys have the song U g l

666
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: y you ain't gonna yes?

667
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Speaker 2: Of course, So she was the singer of that song

668
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Speaker 2: and her and it was her and her friend that

669
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Speaker 2: would go around and sing that song. It was kind

670
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Speaker 2: of like that, and I think they had a couple others,

671
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Speaker 2: but that's their most you know, famous one.

672
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Speaker 3: So she's from that era and she was like a

673
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Speaker 3: pop star in that era.

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Speaker 2: And now she's a writer for Universal Studios and she's

675
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Speaker 2: writing our story.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, I have chills for.

677
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Speaker 2: You, And we have good music coming from Republic Records

678
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: that's gonna be written. It's all kind of like in

679
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Speaker 2: the works. But now at this point we are pitching

680
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: it to different streaming platforms to see like who we

681
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: are going to go with that's kind of out right now.

682
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Speaker 2: But yes, I'll be in it. I'm not going to

683
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: be the main character. I really like I was into

684
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Speaker 2: another one of the girls in the band. I mean

685
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Speaker 2: it's kind of an ensoulid cast, but I really like

686
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: gravitated towards this girl.

687
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Speaker 3: And her name is Rose. That's kind of why I

688
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Speaker 3: died my hair too.

689
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Speaker 1: I love it. I have to read this book now.

690
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm a big reader, and I need to read this

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Speaker 1: before your show comes out.

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Speaker 3: It's really like easy read. It's one of those that

693
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Speaker 3: it's just easy to read, like you'll be like, oh

694
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Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm halfway through.

695
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Speaker 2: But it's it's going to be, you know, like they

696
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: show any anything that's based off the book, it's a

697
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: little bit different.

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be a little a little changed.

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Speaker 5: Because you sing, right, yeah, okay, you're a singer, so

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Speaker 5: will you be singing in this yes.

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Speaker 2: But I'm hoping to get like a way like better

702
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: couple singers to kind of carry me a little bit.

703
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Speaker 2: We need like a good a really like powerhouse singer

704
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Speaker 2: and a really great dancer to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: ease the the flow of.

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Speaker 1: It, all right, bring them on elevate.

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Speaker 3: I'm not the best. I'm not like Ariana Grande, which

708
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Speaker 3: I wish you know, well.

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Speaker 1: Who is who is except maybe Mariah Carey, And.

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Speaker 2: I want to find one like that that's also you know,

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00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: good at acting. You know, you have to find within acting,

712
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: singing and dancing. When you have a group of four girls,

713
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: like I want to find different qualities that are the

714
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Speaker 2: best in others or whatever that we can kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, make it to be a good group.

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Speaker 1: So will you be able like when you when you

717
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Speaker 1: have these these girls audition and you come up with

718
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: like the final four or however money you'll be watching

719
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Speaker 1: their tapes. Yeah, oh my god, that's my dream. That's

720
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Speaker 1: my dream job is to be a casting director.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's so well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm sure you could go and sit

723
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: in any casting director session. I mean I used to

724
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Speaker 2: do that. You could go into a casting director and

725
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: be like, hey, can.

726
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Speaker 3: I be the reader? Can I be the reader of

727
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Speaker 3: the casting session?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

729
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Speaker 4: I would love that, which is wild.

730
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stress. It's make or break. You're

731
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Speaker 1: putting a character in a role that could completely fuck

732
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Speaker 1: up the whole show.

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Speaker 5: And also I have to say, if I'm an actor

734
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Speaker 5: and I'm walking into an audition.

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Speaker 4: Granted I know they're.

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Speaker 5: Mostly on tape, but if you guys are like sitting

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Speaker 5: in a casting session and I have to walk in

738
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Speaker 5: and I know one of you that's going.

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Speaker 4: To add a little pressure to me, I would be nervous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, definitely, It's.

742
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Speaker 2: Happened to me before. One of my best girlfriends, like

743
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: was in this one cast. It was like a like

744
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Speaker 2: a horror movie or something, which are always like the

745
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: weirdest ones to go into a room because you have

746
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Speaker 2: to ignore like a half a page of like directions

747
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: that are happening, or you're being thrown up to the

748
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Speaker 2: ceiling or like thrown to the wall, and then like

749
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Speaker 2: still be dramatic.

750
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Speaker 3: And I was so nervous. I completely felt like, oh my.

751
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Speaker 2: God, I just totally half asked that and did not

752
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Speaker 2: do well because my best friend was reading with me.

753
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Speaker 3: It was so weird. Didn't book it, did not book

754
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Speaker 3: that one.

755
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Speaker 1: Not even you can't win them all, you know, you

756
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: need those humbling moments.

757
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Speaker 3: It was very humbling.

758
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you and everything you have going on.

759
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Speaker 1: Where can people watch the Oreville?

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Speaker 3: They can watch it? On Hulu. I'm sure you can

761
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Speaker 3: go and buy it on like iTunes if you want to.

762
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Speaker 5: But yeah, Hulu, let's plug your Instagram too, not like

763
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 5: people don't know it, but you have a chic Instagram.

764
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Speaker 1: It's like it is so cool.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

766
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Speaker 2: I just try to ride a lot of like yeah,

767
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Speaker 2: not the only model person on Instagram, but yes, I

768
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: do like love my outfits, and I do love taking

769
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: photos and I do like posting selfies. But I'm also

770
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: like a really great actress, so like this is where

771
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Speaker 2: I want to be high right, look at me if

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Speaker 2: you want to.

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Speaker 1: I love it. What's your gram?

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Speaker 3: Okay? My Instagram is at Ann Winters.

775
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Speaker 2: I'm saying that because a n N E w I

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Speaker 2: n t r s I go buy Annie.

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Speaker 3: But if people are going to look me up and

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Speaker 3: I say Annie, they usually put an I in. So

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Speaker 3: it's just at a n N E Winters.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. I love it. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: me on my podcast today. You're amazing.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much. I had so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I had so much fun to congratulations on all of

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Speaker 1: your success.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much,