1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Smell us. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Podcast. 3 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to Meet Eater Radio Live. Welcome to Meet 4 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 3: Eater Radio Live. I'm your host. 5 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Today, Clay Newcombe, straight out of Arkansas, and I'm pretty 6 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: sure this will this will rank up there with the 7 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: top Meet Eat Radio lives maybe of all time because 8 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: of my co hosts, Brent Reeves and Tony Peterson. 9 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Great to see you boys. 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: Brent, It's great to be here. 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Are you happy to be here? Why are you here? 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Why am I here? 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: Because our boss told us to come here. Right. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: So we're in Bozeman this week, and Tony's and Bozeman. 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: We're we're like that, we're a little bit of the 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: of the what do you call it? When you know, 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: we're like the extensions of media that live out in 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: the real world out there. 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we live in Fort Arkansas. 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: You live in We are definitely a touch point to 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 5: real people where we live and what we do. 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: Tell us, where do you live, Tony? 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 5: I live in just central Minnesota, Central Minnesota, far cry 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 5: from Bozeman. 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: Did you know that bears in Minnesota have the largest 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: in the expanding ranges between the eastern deciduous forests and 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: the and the and the Great Plains. Minnesota black bears 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: have the largest documented home ranges of any bears in 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: North America. 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: Black bears, I. 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: Don't know that, but I believe that there's some there's 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: some boers that have four hundred square mile home ranges. 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: Holy cow. 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you what I live. I live in 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: the suburbs just north of the cities. When everybody started 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: getting ring cameras and all these next door Facebook things 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: pages and stuff like that, the amount of awareness of 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 5: black bear's just general population stuff went through the roof crazy. 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: They're everywhere crazy. 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to give you a chance in just 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: a second to introduce yourself with Brent. But on today's show, 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: we are in Montana and we're gonna interview a Tennessee 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: wildlife biologist who's been diagnosed with Alpha gal which is 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: a major deal, really interesting tick boar and illness. And 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna take you way back to a throwback Thursday, 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: one of the Meat Eater Live favorites. We've got some 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: great photos from Tony, Brent and I that have never 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: been shown before, never will be shown again. We'll be 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: deleted off the Internet after this. These are these kind 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: of photos, folks, We're gonna show those. Then we're going 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: to go back to talk with the director of the 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: Public Timber Project, Each Stewart, And finally we're going to 53 00:02:52,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: wrap up with a multiary trail camera contest, velvet contest, and. 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: Also we'll be talking to Ronnie Cohen, who is. 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah Tennessee Wildlife Biologists. 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: Oh is that you? You did that? Yeah? 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: I said that like about ten seconds. 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: Oh that's an echo. I wasn't listening. 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh so that's gonna be great. And then 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna go back and get some listener questions. So 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: we really appreciate everybody signing on and we're going to uh, 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna talk to everybody online. 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: It's really cool to have everybody there. So Brent Reeves, 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: sir man, what have you been doing? What's what are 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: you excited about? 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm excited. 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 6: I'm getting ready for a big hunt in Northern Canada 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 6: and Manitoba in September. Just finished the project just about 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 6: a month ago in Kansas on some decoy decoy dog 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 6: stuff with coats. Now getting ready to go on this 71 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 6: this moose hunt. Absolute dream hunt for me archery moose hunt, 72 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 6: but I'm may I may take a have a rifle 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 6: and backup. We get to the ninth ending and we 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 6: ain't got any meat in the freezer because I am 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 6: counting on. 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: I had a piece of moose steak that you cooked 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: from one of the ones that you killed, and it's fabulous. 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: So the ultimate goal is to fill the freezer. Second 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: goal would be to do it with. 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: Archery, Tony, I'll tell you what I told Brent, and 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: don't I really don't want to influence him in any 82 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: unnatural way. But I've decided on the big, big hunts 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: in wild country that I've never been in that are 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: kind of like these once in a lifetime, once in 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: three decade type trips to take a bow, which a 86 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: bow is what I've gravitated towards since I was a kid. 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: That's what I typically want to do is bow hunt, 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: and I have taken a bow on some of those trips, 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: and I find that rather enjoying this wild country that 90 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm in for ten days of my life, I'm thinking 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: about the limiting factor of that hunt, which is trying 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: to get within forty yards of that animal and kill 93 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: it with a boat rather than enjoined being there. So 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: the I get, the more I'm kind of like less 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: interested in the weapon on a hunt like that. Now, 96 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: if I'm hunting somewhere else, I might be like I'm 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: taking a bow. Do you understand what I'm saying? 98 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: I absolutely understand what you're saying. 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: What do you think? 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 5: It's just different strokes man, Like I wouldn't people ask 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: me about moose hunting all the time. I wouldn't moose 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: hunt with anything other than a bow, just like for 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 5: me personally, that's what I'd want to do. But I 104 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: get I absolutely get what you would do. Or you 105 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 5: have that backup rifle with you. And to your point, Clay, 106 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 5: I find myself even though like I just I just 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 5: love bow hunting more than anything. But I find myself 108 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 5: more and more where I'm like, I just want to 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 5: be someplace really special, Like I don't care about going 110 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: here because I can kill a big one here or whatever. 111 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: It's like I want to be in those places before 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: I get too old. And so you know, the weapon 113 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: choice for me is like it's just kind of setting stone. 114 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: I don't know why. 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: I'm just that's just the way I am. But the 116 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: important thing. It's the same thing as you're talking about, Like, 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: I want that experience. I want to be in those places. Yeah, yep, it's. 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: A big part of it. I'm just looking forward to. 119 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 6: I'm going with some good folks, Craig McCarthy North Mountain 120 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 6: Adventures and there. I mean those folks. I killed a 121 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: bear with them last year, a big old chocolate bear. 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 6: And they're just good folks. They actually came down went 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 6: coon hunting with us, whole family. Just good folks, good folks. 124 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 6: Where you went with me? What's up where you. 125 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: Went with me? Down that? They came right right right 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: doctor Camp. Yeah m hm. 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: So that's the hunt you're excited about, Tony, what's the 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: what's the hunt this fall. 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: You're excited about. 130 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: Honestly, this is going to be a little crazy, but 131 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 5: I picked up permission to bear hunt in Minnesota in 132 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: this on this property. It's only an hour from my house, 133 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: so the lightest lift to get there that I've ever 134 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 5: had for a bear hunt, you know, for a do 135 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: it yourself deal. And I'm not going to hunt them, 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 5: but my daughters. You know, one of my daughters shot 137 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: one in Wisconsin last year. One of them hunted Wisconsin 138 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: didn't get one, and so this is a no quota zone. 139 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: We won't have big bears, but we should have some 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 5: to work with. And I'm like, weirdly excited about that 141 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: because both of my daughters are just geeked up to 142 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 5: hunt bears, probably because they know I'm gonna pull them 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: out of school the first week of school or first two. 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: You know they're gonna get some vacation time early for this. 145 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: But that one has kind of caught me off guard 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: because bears haven't always been my thing, but when my 147 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 5: daughters want to hunt them in it's fun. 148 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. You always say that. 149 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: It always surprises me because you're known as the whitetail guy, 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: so I always think you're gonna be like, oh this 151 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: tag that I got here there, And like almost every 152 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: year I talk to you, you tell me something about 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: a bear and I'm like, I mean, I want to 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: hear some comments. Do you think Tony's feeding me what 155 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: I want to hear? Is he feeding Klay Nukem wan 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: Clay Nukem wants to hear or is he being honest 157 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: with the world. I want to hear the comments there. 158 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: How authentic that was? I think he's telling the truth. 159 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, when you do what we do for 160 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: a job, and like, I love the whitetail hunts. I 161 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: have a I'm going to go try to decoy one 162 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: in late October in western North Dakota, which is a 163 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 5: place I just love to hunt. 164 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I'm excited about that. 165 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: But we sort of take whitetail hunts for granted because 166 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: we do a lot of them, and that's just like 167 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 5: such an omnipresent part of your life. So anything that 168 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: I can deviate, that's just different, right if I can 169 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: deviate outside of it. And I just I feel like 170 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: I learn a lot when I bear hunt, because I'm 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: not very good at the same thing with duck hunting. 172 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: When I go duck hunting, I'm like, I'm not very 173 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: good at this, and I just. 174 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: Enjoy it, but because I'm figuring the novelty of it. 175 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was with Brenton Tony all week. 176 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: We're here at the at the the Meat Eater Go 177 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: to market meeting for the For the year or so, 178 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: we've been seeing all the new first light products that 179 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: are coming out. FHF gear products, Dave Smith decoy stuff, 180 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: FELP stuff, we've been seeing all that. And I heard 181 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Brent the other day casually talking to Tony, who he's 182 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: known for like a very long time, and Brent was like, Hey, 183 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: how's Wisconsin And Tony's like, I don't know, I don't 184 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: live in Wisconsin, but Minnesota is great. 185 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: It's not even close. And not even close. 186 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 3: That's pretty much what happened. No, well, you got the 187 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: state mixed up. Okay. People do this with with us 188 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: in the South. 189 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, you're from Mississippi, right, And I'm like, no, 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm not from Mississippi, and I'm like Arkansas and they go, 191 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean it's kind of the same. How 192 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: many of you online do that between the Great Lake 193 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: States and the Southern States? Like if you just kind 194 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: of get it right that Tony's from somewhere up there, 195 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: it's okay. And you know how many like which one 196 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: do you get more confused with? 197 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: Because I probably would have done the same thing, Tony. 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: They're kind of all the same. 199 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: So I'm from Minnesota and we have Steve from Michigan, 200 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: Mark from Michigan. 201 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: We have a lot of lot of dudes here from Michigan. 202 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 5: People Michigan and Minnesota but I don't take offense to that. 203 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: I don't care at all. 204 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: But I wondered if somebody says, oh, you're from Mississippi, 205 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: does that like make your blood boiler? 206 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: Are you like, say, hey, listen, the states like Arkansas 207 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: and Mississippi, they're at the bottom of the pile for 208 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: every single thing built into our culture as an insecurity complex. 209 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a it's like a it's like 210 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: a sociological thing. 211 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: We're built with it. 212 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: That's why we're so passionate about the razorbacks. It's like 213 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: the only thing we've got. So if you try to 214 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: staple me to another state, I'm. 215 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: Like, dude, the only thing I got is this state. 216 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: That's all I got going for me. 217 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: How how much do you too think that you've personally 218 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 5: elevated Arkansas just being from there? 219 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: The governor probably has a worn out for our wrist. Probably, 220 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 6: I don't know. I think we've probably we brought some 221 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 6: eyes on Arkansas. We had a matter of fact, we 222 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 6: had some guy contact that sent us an email that 223 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 6: because of the stuff he was listening to on Bear 224 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 6: Greece in this country Life, they were moving to Arkansas. 225 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: I don't say that's so terrible. 226 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: I seen him an email said, don't do that. We 227 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: were lying. Don't come. Did you ask him if he's 228 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: heard of Bozeman? 229 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: You should move. Bozman's a great town. 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: It is. 231 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I can't wait to see you guys photos. 232 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: It's great. Is that next? 233 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: No, it's not. 234 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: But we are going to interview Ronnie Cohen Calwenh Ronnie is. 235 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: I'll let him introduce hisself. 236 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: But Ronnie is in Tennessee and we're going to talk 237 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: with him about what he does, but specifically about alpha 238 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: gal which is a tick born illness, which for years 239 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: I've always told my kids. I was like, I'm more 240 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: afraid of ticks than I am snakes. You know, when 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: I was a kid, it was the snakes that our 242 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: moms were scared of. Today it's the ticks because they're 243 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: way more consequential. 244 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: Really. But if we can get Ronnie up, Hey, Ronny, can. 245 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 7: You hear us, yes, sir? 246 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 8: Can you hear me? 247 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: Yes? 248 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 3: Man? 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: Look at where you're tell us where you're standing. What 250 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: do you got out in front of you there, Ronnie? 251 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I'm at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. Who 252 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 9: we're here at our ut gardens. It's a demonstration garden. 253 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 9: We have native plant species ornamentals. That's very popular, and 254 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 9: we do a lot of andrology hung tree stands out here. 255 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 9: I do a lot of hunter advocacy and hunting skills education. 256 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 9: And I'm standing behind Smoky four here. He is our 257 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 9: school mascot. And I have a freezer queen here to 258 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 9: my right that we teach shot placement. And we do 259 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 9: a little bit of waterfowl stuff too in Tennessee. 260 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 8: So I bought some teaching aids oh Man. 261 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: So the blue tick, though, is a permanent Is that 262 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: a permanent statue there? 263 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 9: Yes, sir, Okay, sir. We have statues of Smoky all 264 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 9: around the campus. This happens to be Smoky for we're 265 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 9: all the way up to the young teens. Here are 266 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 9: our official real mascot, the Smoky Dog. I think we're 267 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 9: on twelve or thirteen. We've had several, but he is 268 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 9: our official mascot here at the university. 269 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 8: I love it, man. 270 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: Every time I see that blue tick come out, I 271 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: get fire it up. If I if I had a 272 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: team other than the Razorbacks, it would be the Tennessee Balls. 273 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I appreciate that it's true. It's true. 274 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: I was I tailgated there last year at one of 275 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: the big games with Brent. 276 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 4: Yep, there's a lot of In fact, we saw Ronnie there. 277 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, we met Ronnie. Yeah. 278 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 6: I actually coon hunting with Ronnie and he can't here, 279 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 6: and some of his friends came down hunted with me 280 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 6: and Michael at at the Duck Camp and that's that's 281 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 6: when Ronnie told me about contracting Alpha Gal. And it's 282 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: it's interesting too because of his job. He's a wildlife 283 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 6: biologist and he's with the Extension Service and they do 284 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 6: a lot of educational stuff with kids there in Tendnessee 285 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: and Ronnie's always out in the field teaching stuff to 286 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 6: kids and stuff, and he's having to deal with this 287 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 6: Alpha Gal and I thought it'd be interesting to have 288 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 6: Ronnie on here to talk about how it's changed his life. 289 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you How long have you had it? Ronnie? 290 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, what was that? 291 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: How long have you had Alpha Gal? 292 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 293 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 9: I've had Alpha Gal for about two and a half 294 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 9: close to three years now, and I've contracted it what 295 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 9: I suspect to be. During early arter season, pulled a 296 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 9: bunch of ticks off of me, and it's the lone 297 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 9: star tick that messes you up there down here in 298 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 9: South and I suspected it came from that area because 299 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 9: I was getting a bunch of ticks on me. But 300 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 9: Brin's right, I'm out in the field a lot. I'm 301 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 9: an outdoor recreation specialist, so I'm in the woods a lot. 302 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 9: And you know, if you recreate the South, you come 303 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 9: in contact the picks all the time? 304 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: Was the tick? 305 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: I've always heard that it's got to be on you 306 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: for like over eight hours before you can get any 307 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: kind of infection from the tick. 308 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: Is that true? 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 9: I'm not sure that's what I've heard too. I don't 310 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 9: specialize in ticks or anything. Unfortunately, I just contracted this allergys. 311 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 8: But yeah, I have. 312 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 9: Heard that too, And you know, I tried to take 313 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 9: here of that and pull them off. But you know, 314 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 9: it's real easy to get those picks that you can't see, 315 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 9: and they're not always real detectable. So yeah, if that 316 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 9: is true, that that makes you feel a little bit. 317 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Better that what is what's the internet say? Oh look, yeah, 318 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: Brent's gonna look at that. Well, tell us, tell us 319 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: what alpha gal is for somebody that might not know 320 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: and how it's affected you, Ronnie. 321 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, so alpha gal is an allergen to a carbohydrate 322 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 9: in a million meat. There's a lot of misinformation out 323 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 9: there that I have found because it's such a new thing. 324 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 325 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 8: Some people call it just a. 326 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 9: Red meat alergism, but actually alpha gala is an allergen 327 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 9: to alma million meat. 328 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 8: So anything with fur or gives milk, you can't eat 329 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 8: meat from it. 330 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 9: So one night I had a really bad reaction. I 331 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 9: don't know how to explain it other than having lizard skin. 332 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 9: Woked up in a cold sweat and couldn't hardly breathe 333 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 9: and didn't know what was going on through the cold shower. 334 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 9: I took some ben a drill and ben a drill 335 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 9: puts me to sleep, so I was able to get 336 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 9: through that. I knew I needed help. Went to the 337 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 9: doctor and they got me into an allergist, and by 338 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 9: the time I got to see a specialist, I had 339 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 9: my second reaction. It was very similar, but with some 340 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 9: bad stomach issues. And eventually got into the allergists and 341 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 9: they were asking questions and. 342 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 8: He would say, you know, have you heard of Africa? 343 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 9: And I said, yeah, I'm a wildlife biologist, and I 344 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 9: do a lot in the outdoors. I've heard of that, 345 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 9: but I eat red meat every day and I don't 346 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 9: think that's it. He said, well, we're going to test 347 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 9: you anyways, and they did an official blood panel and 348 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 9: at that particular clinic, they said that I had the 349 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 9: highest levels of that allergism that they've ever seen. I 350 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 9: was living in Florida at the time, but coming back 351 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 9: up here in Tennessee and recreating, and so that was 352 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 9: really kind of life changing for me being a biologist, 353 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 9: and every meal that I eate had some kind of 354 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 9: meat in it. 355 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 8: So it's really life changing and. 356 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 9: Really hard to kind of mold around that, and it 357 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 9: changed how I hunted and and everything after finding that 358 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 9: news out. 359 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: How do you eat now, Ronnie? Like you can eat? 360 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: You can eat chicken, birds, fish. Is that the kind 361 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: of protein you can eat? 362 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 8: Yeah? 363 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 9: So poultry, seafood, and fish. You know, I eat a 364 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 9: lot of And I tell my life if they ever 365 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 9: get over this on the root fried chicken sandwiches again 366 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 9: because he's here on the road, that's about the only 367 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 9: fast food you have. But luckily, you know, poultry is 368 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 9: pretty good. I do like seafood, but I do miss 369 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 9: red and meat and pork, and I'm just about giving 370 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 9: up breakfast because it's hard to have a good breakfast 371 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 9: without sausage and bacon. So when I do a protein 372 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 9: bar now and out the door. 373 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: Will you ever shed the allergy? 374 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: Because I've heard of it kind of going up and 375 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: going down inside of people. 376 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: Do you think you'll ever shed it? 377 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? 378 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 9: I have heard of people getting over it and the 379 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 9: allergies that I see here in Tennessee. They claim that 380 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 9: you can build a torrance to it, just like any 381 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 9: allergyen that sometimes it leaves, but other individuals have it 382 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 9: for the rest of their life. That really depends on 383 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 9: the person, and I think they need to do some 384 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 9: more research on it. But yeah, it can it can 385 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 9: come and go, and uh, there's different avenues. There's no 386 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 9: medicine for it that I'm aware of. There's some holistic 387 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 9: approaches with acupuncturing things that I have not tried. Some 388 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 9: people squear by it, but I have not been told 389 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 9: how that affects the allergy to the sugar molecule. But uh, 390 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 9: you know, it's a big deal to me because I'm 391 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 9: in the deer woods. I target deer species a lot 392 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 9: in my hunting, and when I would harvest a deer, 393 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 9: just the raw blood would bother me. 394 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: You know, a deer hunting at all? Are you deer 395 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: hunting at all now? 396 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 9: So yeah, i still deer hunt, and I deer hunt 397 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 9: with friends, and so if I do harvest one, and 398 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 9: I've got some really good friends. When I harvest one, 399 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 9: they help me with it. And it uh for some reason, 400 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 9: the are the raw blood breaks me out and Alpha 401 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 9: Gael what's strange about it affects people differently in their sensitivity. 402 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 8: So some folks can't even stand the smell of it. 403 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 8: I'm I don't have that bad. 404 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 9: Of a reaction to it, but the raw blood wants 405 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 9: us been feel dressed and hanged. I can cut the meat, 406 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 9: I can work it, I can fabricate it. I was 407 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 9: a butcher in college, so we grew up doing our 408 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 9: own meat, our own processing. I can still do that 409 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 9: part of it. But getting out of the woods. The 410 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 9: first season after I had Alpha Gal, I harvested a 411 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 9: nice buck and just you know, moving the horns, taking 412 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 9: pictures of Griffin Grim's, I'd get the blood on them. 413 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 9: It would cause a lot of gets in a lot 414 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 9: of rotation, and so my friends helped me out. But still, 415 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 9: you know, it's it's had to change the way I hunt, 416 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 9: and luckily my good friends turned me on to birds. 417 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 9: I went on my first duck hunt a couple of 418 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 9: years ago and Arkansas, fell in love with it, came back, 419 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 9: bought a dog, a shotgun, and a new habit, and 420 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 9: so I've kind of changed. I grew up on the 421 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 9: side of a mountain here in East Tennessee, so that 422 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 9: so the duck hunt was totally new. And making a 423 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 9: long story short, in my job, I get new people 424 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 9: into hunting, and I grew up hunting as long as 425 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 9: I was old enough to toe the firearm. 426 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 8: So me having to. 427 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 9: Transition to another discipline, if you call it, really opened 428 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 9: my eyes what it needs to take to learn a 429 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 9: new skills. So even that you know, someone's very experienced 430 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 9: big game hunting for whitetail deer in Tennessee, transitioning the waterfowl, 431 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 9: it was a whole new ball game, and my responsibility 432 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 9: is getting other folks into it. So it actually I 433 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 9: think gave me a good perspective of how to do. 434 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 6: So, yeah, hey, Ronnie, I got a question and I 435 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 6: did a podcast on about TIX several episodes ago, and 436 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: we talked about alpha gal and Rocky Mountain spotted fever 437 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: and the ones that are predominantly in the US. But 438 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 6: I had some folks contact me and reach out about 439 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 6: acupuncture treatment for alpha gal being a successful treatment. What's 440 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 6: your experience with that and have you discussed that with 441 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 6: anybody there, with your physician or anything. 442 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, are, Yeah, my wife has was the first person 443 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 9: brought that to my attention. I know people personally have 444 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 9: done it, and they swear by it and they really 445 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 9: believe it, and uh, you know, I'm not a doctor. 446 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 9: I don't judge them, but it seems like to help it. 447 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 9: I do know that they really think it helps them. 448 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 9: I've looked into further research and there's not a lot 449 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 9: out there, but I do know that it goes in 450 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 9: and out of remission or can as far as an 451 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 9: allergyen goes through, just through what I have seen, So 452 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 9: I don't know if they're experiencing just you know, a 453 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 9: delayed response, or if it's actually working. But my friends 454 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 9: that have done it, they go and they get acupunctury, 455 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 9: they get a series of needles in their ear and 456 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 9: they have to walk around for a couple of days 457 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 9: with those needles in their ear, they come back and 458 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 9: take it out. 459 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 8: But I don't know how that affects. 460 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: The sugar out to eat red meat. Rodnie, I don't know. 461 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 9: I don't know if that's the answer, but I do 462 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 9: know those folks to truly believe it, and so I'm 463 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 9: not going to say it don't work. 464 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 8: It's just I don't know how it works, and I 465 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 8: haven't done that. 466 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: So last question here from Tony Ronnie. 467 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: So, Ronnie, I've lived in tick territory my whole life. 468 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 5: I'm just curious after you got diagnosed with this and 469 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 5: it sort of changed the arc of your life and 470 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 5: you know, just your time in the outdoors, did you 471 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: kind of not take texas seriously before? And are you 472 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 5: pretty pretty vigilant about treatments, paying attention like how has 473 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 5: how has your preventative you know kind of mindset, How 474 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 5: has that changed ever since your diagnosis? 475 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: Oh? 476 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 9: Absolutely, So I always thought I took ticks seriously. You know, 477 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 9: we were concerned about Rocky Mountain spot fever and lime 478 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 9: disease and things like that, and I would use your 479 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 9: sprays and your deets, and really where I hunted at 480 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 9: particularly worried about tiggers more than we did tick. We've 481 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 9: got a bad batch of them down here too. But 482 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 9: or I was pretty serious, But since I've caught this, 483 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 9: I've been real serious because Aler just says a great 484 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 9: way to get over this is to keep the ticks 485 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 9: off of you, which is a tall shore if you 486 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 9: recreate in the outdoors. So, uh, you know, I have 487 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 9: a pretty intensive plan where I dipped my clothes and 488 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 9: that breath or bar ether and however you pronounce it, 489 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 9: and then I spray deep and even you know this 490 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 9: is not maybe not the best advice, but you know, 491 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 9: even putting around your ankles on bare skin, I don't 492 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 9: know what they say about that, but it has helped 493 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 9: me tremendously and shut a lot of that down where 494 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 9: you put it on contact points around your ankles, around 495 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 9: your waist, use the products available out there, because. 496 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 8: I obvisually want to get over this. 497 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 9: So I'm trying to take the doctor's orders and try 498 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 9: to keep those ticks off of me. But we also, 499 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 9: you know now that I bird hunt a lot, I 500 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 9: take care of my dog too and make sure that 501 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 9: he's got a lot of the tick protection too, because 502 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 9: another great way is to them bringing into your house, 503 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 9: bringing into your kennels and things. So my hunting companions 504 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 9: like my lad my bird dog, I always take care 505 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 9: of that too, and try to keep it out of 506 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 9: the home and just real cautious of it because if 507 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 9: you're in shade, you know you're you're probably more likely 508 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 9: to get it. And the bad thing about that spotted tick, 509 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 9: the lone start tick, it's from my knowledge, if they 510 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 9: sense your carbon dioxide and they actually hunt you. It's 511 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 9: not like a deer tick that kind of hangs out 512 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 9: and grabs on to you when you. 513 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: Walk by it. 514 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 8: Those ticks actively crawl and hunt you. So right, and 515 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 8: keeping those things off. 516 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: Hey man, we're rooting for you, and uh, I think 517 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna kick it. Man, I mark my words, two 518 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: and a half years, you're gonna be good to go. 519 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 9: I appreciate that, but I'm still keeping out there recreating 520 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 9: and just making them positive and getting more people in 521 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 9: the outdoors. And if you don't care, I'd like to 522 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 9: tell a little bit about what we're doing with Hunter 523 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 9: Advocacy before we go, just real quickly that you know, 524 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 9: we focused on the positives with Hunter Advocacy. We talk 525 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 9: about that tick protection, but we also try to bring 526 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 9: everybody into it for hunter advocacy. Part of my job 527 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 9: here at UT is, you know, teaching these new hunters 528 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 9: and kids how to get into outdoor recreation. So we 529 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 9: talk about those dangers of the ticks and the bugs, 530 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 9: but we also bring it back into the culture where 531 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 9: they have a lot of fun and the importance of conservation. 532 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 4: Thank you. Awesome work, Ronnie. 533 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 3: Awesome work, Thank you, Ronnie. 534 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 4: Thanks buddy. 535 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Man, all right, man' that's scary stuff. It 536 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: really is real. It can change your life, does dang ticks. 537 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: I had er lichyosis one time, and the best way 538 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: I describe it to people is it's what it feels 539 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: like when you die. Yeah, I mean, like, that's the 540 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: sickest I've ever been was with lichyosis, which is also 541 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: a tick board illness that's more concentrated over in our 542 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: part of the world. 543 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: Our dogs get it. We get it. 544 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: Now it's time for listener feedback. I see a lot 545 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: of listener feedback up here, Phil. What do you have 546 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: for us? What are some highlight comments? Questions directed to 547 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: the team. 548 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 4: What do we got? 549 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 8: Yeah? 550 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 7: I get them in Now we'll do this again. At 551 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: the end of the show. But first we have a 552 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 7: question from Adam Clay and Brann What can you tell 553 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 7: us about this year's squirrel Cookoff? And will you guys 554 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 7: be there? 555 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: Ah? 556 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 6: Absolutely, we'll be there and it will be bigger and 557 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 6: it's like the World's Fair. It gets bigger and better 558 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 6: every year. 559 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: September thirteenth, Springdale, Arkansas. It's a free event. 560 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: It's the World Championship Squirrel Cookoff. And yeah, Brent and 561 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: I will be there. 562 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 4: We'll be there. We wouldn't miss it. It's like Christmas, 563 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: it's like red neck Christmas. 564 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a It's a really neat event because the 565 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: highlight of the event is that there'll be forty teams 566 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: cooking gourmet squirrel and they feed it to the public. 567 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: So come hungry, leave fool. 568 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: Yep, it's really great. Yeah, I hope to see you there. 569 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: What else we got, Phil. 570 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 7: Freddy Rick, He asked this question every single week even 571 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 7: if we don't. But since we don't have a meat 572 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 7: Eater menu segment today, I will ask the crew. Well, first, 573 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 7: Freddy Rick says, I'm cooking a pronghorn neck right now 574 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 7: to make barbacoa. What if the guy's been cooking lately. 575 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: With the game, I've been cooking fried fish, and a 576 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: lot of it fried fish. 577 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 5: I I've been so what I like to do is 578 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: take my backstraps out hole in the fall and then 579 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 5: in the summer grill a whole backstrap for the family. 580 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: And since we had a bunch of redfish from Louisiana 581 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 5: last year, I've been doing surf turf. Even though I 582 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: can't eat the fish, my wife and kids love it, 583 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 5: and so we've been We've been going pretty simple, but 584 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 5: it's so good. 585 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: I've been doing bear smash burgers. 586 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: I've developed quite a reputation around our house for making 587 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: some mean black bear smash burgers. And so I've got 588 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: the patty like hanging out a half inch outside the 589 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: bun and cook him on the grill. I don't cook 590 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: him on like a griddle, like on a fire grill, 591 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: but press them down real thin. 592 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 3: And so been hitting a lot of those this summer. 593 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: And I'm on my annual water melon I try to 594 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: for sixty days straight from July and August, full month 595 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: often bleeds into September, eat watermelon every single day. 596 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: That's good. 597 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: But I've actually I just realized in Montana. I haven't 598 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: done that, but thanks Freddy. 599 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: Thanks Freddy. What else we got, Phil. 600 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, Tony, I think we might have gotten something like 601 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 7: this the last time you were a part of the show. 602 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 7: But Alan, it says Tony best advice for getting your 603 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 7: daughter into hunting. My daughter is four years old and 604 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 7: this will be her first season getting into the woods 605 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 7: with me, And I think this can extend to Brent 606 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 7: and Clay as well, who are also fathers of daughters. 607 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 5: You know, I would say four years old. One thing 608 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 5: that we do with kids a lot that I think 609 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 5: we get wrong is we take them the first time, 610 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 5: like on a hunt, where we're like, we're going to 611 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 5: try to be the most successful as possible, even if 612 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: your daughter's just observing because at force she's probably not 613 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: going to be shooting anything. But so for my daughters, 614 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: it was a big deal to go out and set 615 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 5: a blind with me. Something simple, you know, eat some candy, 616 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 5: talk about the deer tracks, just sort of get them 617 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: involved so they have that connection to it. When I'm 618 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 5: going to take them back there on some nice September 619 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 5: evening or something, when the conditions are going to be 620 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: right and they're actually going to sit with me, and 621 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 5: so it's just like, you know, it's kind of like 622 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: training a puppy, right, Like you have like a short 623 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: attention span to get this thing to stick, and you 624 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: want them, you want to leave them wanting more. So 625 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: you make it special. Right, you stop at dairy queen, 626 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: you get blizzards on the way home, whatever. But it's 627 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 5: always like this just tight window thing. You get in 628 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: something cool, do something that's tied to the next thing, right, 629 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: Or you walk them into the woods and you're like, 630 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 5: we're gonna go look for some berries or something, and oh, 631 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 5: by the way, here's this little brook trout stream that 632 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 5: we're gonna come back to next week. And it's just 633 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 5: this connection to nature instead of just just going in 634 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: and being like this is how I'm gonna kill a 635 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 5: deer and you're gonna watch it, which, you know, whatever 636 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: might work for some kids, but for girls, I think, 637 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: especially like daughters, just that overall connection and like the 638 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: recurring like we did this, now this, we did this, 639 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 5: now this, and just and plus that's just a good 640 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 5: excuse to get. 641 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: Out there more. 642 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 8: You know. 643 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: Bailey's introduction was with with my coon dog Whalen, when 644 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 6: we got Whalen. He was nine or ten months old. 645 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: This was twenty twenty. So Bailey was like in this 646 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 6: second grade, first second grade, I think, and we just 647 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 6: we'd take an evening. We were all learning together and 648 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 6: we were just walking and talking only coon Hunt when 649 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 6: not coon Hu with when Bailey went with me, the 650 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: only time I ever remember talking about glitter, hair bows, 651 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: anything along that line. But we made it fun and 652 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 6: we just had fun out there, and the best part 653 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 6: about it was just being with her, just walking out 654 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: there and showing her the things that I was interested. 655 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 7: Speaking of Bailey, I think she might have hijacked your 656 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 7: wife's YouTube account. She says, it's your favorite daughter with 657 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 7: four hours. She says, comments, Yeah, hey Bailey, their their 658 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 7: old way to Hello Bay. 659 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: And Alexis b Reeves. 660 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think getting kids in Tony's 661 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: advice was so good. But to me another point is 662 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: involve them in the in the family culture inside of it. 663 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: Like if it's just this isolated incident like that, you 664 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: just their whole life is not connected to nature, then 665 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden one day it is. You know, 666 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: I think the the and I had I had, I'd 667 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: say I had over all success with my kids and 668 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: and the goal which was not to make them hunters, 669 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: but to make them appreciate hunting and wildlife conservation and 670 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: wild places. And just I think with with my son 671 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: who really stuck with hunting, and it was that involvement 672 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: in the culture, like he saw that his granddad did 673 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: it and I did it, and we eat this meat 674 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: and this is this is part of just like what 675 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: makes our family kind of who we are in a way, 676 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, So bring them in, bring them into the culture. 677 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: I want to touch on one more thing about that, 678 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 5: even with four year olds, make them do just like 679 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: a little bit of work so they have a buy 680 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 5: in like this, like when you see a lot of 681 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: parenting these days, we're doing an awful lot of stuff 682 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 5: for our kids and like prioritizing their schedules and their lives. 683 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 5: But even like when my daughters were little, like that, 684 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 5: if I made them carry a trail camera or something 685 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: like do something so I'm like, honey, you got to 686 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: lug this into the woods and then when we need it, 687 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 5: we'll set it up together. And they there's just a 688 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: different level of buy in for them, Like they feel 689 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 5: different about it because they did a little bit of work, 690 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 5: So like barbaiting with my daughters when they were young, 691 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: which horrified my wife. But I'd be like, you're carrying 692 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 5: a little bucket a trail mix and gummies or whatever, 693 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 5: and you're going to be a part of this too, 694 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 5: you know, And I think there's just like a I 695 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 5: think there's a little bit different impact there. 696 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil, do we have one more hot, hot question. 697 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 7: Or we have a ton of hot questions. 698 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: We'll try to move a little faster. 699 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 7: Sure, Mitchell says, question for Tony, is it plausible to 700 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 7: train my lab GSP mix to both hunt grouse and 701 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 7: track deer? I realized the season can overlap it. Is 702 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 7: there a risk of confusing her? 703 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: That's a great question. 704 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 5: Dual purpose dogs used to be can my dog duck 705 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 5: hunt or you know, waterfall hunt? Can my dog upland hunt? 706 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: And then somewhere along the line, guys like Tom Doc 707 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 5: and a few other people started training for shad antlers, 708 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 5: and so then people would be like, well, if I 709 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: trained my dogs for shad antlers, is it going to 710 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: run off and forget about the roosters and look for antlers? 711 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: It's like, that's not how it works. When you when 712 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: you look at a long enough timeline. With training a dog, 713 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 5: we we way underutilize them. Like a good sporting dog, 714 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 5: a good working dog can handle a lot of tasks. 715 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 5: So if you if you take that dog and you 716 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 5: train it to blood trail, to which are you know, 717 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 5: tracking dog? 718 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: Essentially they're not really blood trailing. 719 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 5: That dog's not going to get distracted when it's time 720 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 5: to go point some grouse. 721 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: It's just not. 722 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: But it's also an amazing off season thing you can 723 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 5: train for because a lot of bird hunting, you can 724 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 5: train for parts of bird hunting, right, especially especially if 725 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 5: you have a retriever, you know, where you can do 726 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 5: a lot of long distance work and marks and all 727 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 5: that stuff, but you can't you can't do the hunt, 728 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: you know, like you just mostly can't. But with shed antlers, 729 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 5: with blood tracking or game trailing dogs, you can set 730 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: that up all off season long, and people kind of 731 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: we look at that and go, well, that's a that's 732 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 5: a really good skill I want my dog to have, 733 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 5: right my buddies, you know, gut shoot on elk or whatever. 734 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 5: I want to be able to bring my dog go 735 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 5: out there and find it. But it's also as a 736 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 5: dog owner just gonna help you level up that relationship 737 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: because now you have another reason to work with them 738 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 5: and read them and for them to read you, and 739 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 5: now you have another way for them to solve problems 740 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 5: with you and just level up. Like I encourage people 741 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 5: to do whatever whatever they can train their dog like 742 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: in this kind of arena. 743 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 4: Add on that skill set, work on it. Good good stuff. 744 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. 745 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: When Brent thinks about a dual purpose dog, he thinks 746 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: about his dog that will tree coons and possums. That's 747 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: a deep inside coon hunter joke. The worst thing possible 748 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: that a dog could coon dog can do would be. 749 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 7: Let us know the check If you appreciated that joke 750 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 7: has a. 751 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 3: I can joke with the brand because he's got a 752 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: top notch walker dog. 753 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 4: Jealous. 754 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 3: Hey, I see two questions. 755 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I was gonna we have another round of 756 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 7: these at the end, and I was going to hit 757 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 7: you up with a bunch of these claim if you 758 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 7: want to tackle it, now's let's do it. 759 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, let's go, let's move on. I'll tell you what. 760 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 2: Let's move on. Let's come back to some of those. 761 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: I saw a question about my book, which I would 762 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: like to respond to. I saw a question about the 763 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: Bargreas Hall of Fame yep, which I would like to 764 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: I would like to address. But now it's time for 765 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: Throwback Thursday. Cannot wait back on. 766 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 9: A Thursday morn, Stephen Brodie, take me back to nineteen 767 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 9: seventy four. 768 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: Row back. 769 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: I can't believe this the top show. 770 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: All right, throw back on Thursday. 771 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna put up a photo that Brent 772 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: Reeves has sent in. 773 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 3: And Brent's gonna tell us about this picture. 774 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 4: That right there. 775 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 6: Wow, is my great grandfather love It Reeves. That is 776 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 6: on our old home place in Cleveland County. That would 777 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 6: be in the mid fifties, right there when deer a 778 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 6: photo when deer were scarce, and that could be the 779 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 6: cover of a book. 780 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: Few and far between. And if you look in the background. 781 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: Back there, there's that possum trend. 782 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 4: There's a coon dog laying back there. 783 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 6: Now, my grandfather was a if you'll see the the 784 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 6: overalls and the pocket watch there, And I would give 785 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 6: anything if I could have one thing out of that photograph. 786 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: It wouldn't be the antlers and the watch would be 787 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 4: number two. 788 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 6: But my first item that I would love to have 789 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 6: is that hat that he's wearing, right, But he was 790 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 6: a farmer and a woodsman, and he is the guy 791 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 6: that introduced case knives into our family. That's the guy 792 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 6: that started it all. And that that would be. 793 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 4: Bailey's great great grandfather. And there's six generally. 794 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: Did you know him? 795 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 6: No, he died in nineteen sixty four, I think, or 796 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 6: maybe sixty three, but. 797 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 4: Just a few years. 798 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,959 Speaker 3: So that's your dad's dad. 799 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: That's my dad's grandfather. 800 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh, it's your great grandfather. I got it, ye man, 801 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: that that for real. 802 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: When I saw that picture, it looks like one of 803 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: those photos that you know, you you you got off 804 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: the internet because it's so cool, you know, But it's like, 805 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: that's really I love that photo. 806 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a great photo. It's an absolute treasure 807 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 6: in our family. 808 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 3: So those those deer horns aren't a round. 809 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 4: No no idea. 810 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 6: I'm sure they went with the rest of that deer 811 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 6: that didn't get eating. Right then, it wasn't a it 812 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 6: wasn't a thing keeping antlers back then. Probably the biggest 813 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 6: uh trophy of the deal was absolutely encountering a deer. 814 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 3: And I'm probably using those walkers to run them weren't they. 815 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 6: That or I figure that they were probably squirrel hunting 816 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 6: and the deer came through because he wasn't leaving the 817 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 6: house to go deer hunting back then, because he's got 818 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 6: a squirrel vest on. Ye, And that's how I assume 819 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 6: that deer got got brought to the table. 820 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. That's cool. That's a cool photo. 821 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, back when when, I mean the traditional way to 822 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: hunt deer, and a lot of places in the country, 823 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: but specifically the South, was using dogs to run them. 824 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 4: Yep. 825 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: Because there were so few, so few deer, you just 826 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 3: had to. 827 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: Get them up and moving, you know. Aund And so 828 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 2: a deer and a dog just went together. Today it's 829 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: not not as popular. 830 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 3: Good job, Brent, good photo. Good photo. 831 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: Let's throw Tony's photo up there for throwback Thursday. Let 832 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: us know what you think in the comments. 833 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 4: Look at that one. So this fish, you guys, do 834 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 4: you guys have small eat and this big right? 835 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 5: So clay, you guys know this right, somebody shoots a bear. 836 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 5: Everybody says they're three hundred pounds. You're like, they're one 837 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five pounds. You know, somebody shoots a 838 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 5: giant you're like maybe, right, you see a picture of it. 839 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 5: You kind of know in the in the beast world 840 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 5: where I live, like to truly break the six pound 841 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 5: mark is like, you're just not going to do it 842 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 5: very often, even if you fish a lot smallies or 843 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 5: large mouth, right, m hm. So that's my little girl 844 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 5: when she was I think she was six, and we 845 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 5: went out to this rock pile at sunrise, and we 846 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 5: like to throw top waters, right, and so I had 847 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 5: her she wasn't throwing a bait caster yet, but I 848 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: had her with a seven foot you know, medium heavy 849 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 5: rod braided line so you could we use a lot 850 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 5: of wopper ploppers, you know, streamline. 851 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 4: Pretty heavy top water that you can throw a mile. 852 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 5: And so we pull up to this rock pile and 853 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 5: you know, she casts out there, casts it far, and 854 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 5: that that wopper popper hits the water and she reels 855 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 5: like half a turn and this fish hits and you know, 856 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 5: I just I heard a blow up and she set 857 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 5: the hook. You know, she's tiny, and that fish came 858 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 5: straight up like they always do small mouth, and I 859 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 5: saw it come up and in my head, I just go, 860 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 5: she will never get this fish. 861 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 4: Like I didn't go for the net. 862 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 5: You know, I'm cheering her on, but I'm like, there's 863 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 5: no way this fish is isn't going to throw this 864 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 5: in the amount of time it's going to take her 865 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 5: to get it back in. And she leaned into that 866 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 5: fish and fought it and fought it and fought it, 867 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 5: and finally got it up by the boat, got it 868 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 5: to where she could kind of work it around. I 869 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 5: had a net with me. I netted that fish, and 870 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 5: you know, I don't mount fish, right, Like I'm that's 871 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 5: that stage is kind of gone for a lot of people. 872 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 5: And it's the first time I'll never forget I had 873 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 5: the impulse. I looked into that net and I was like, 874 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 5: I'm throwing this sucker in the freezer and we're going 875 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 5: to mount it. But so before I get judged on this, 876 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 5: got it into the boat, measured it. It was just 877 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 5: broke twenty two inches, which is a crazy mark, right, 878 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 5: Like when you actually start measuring big smallies twenties and 879 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 5: twenty ones, they're big fish, right, But that twenty two 880 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 5: inch mark up up where we live is just no joke, right. 881 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 3: It's almost two foot long. 882 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 5: Right, And so we got really nice pictures of it 883 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 5: and then like, we gotta let this fish go, you know, 884 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 5: and she didn't. You know, she wasn't like we got 885 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 5: to keep it and stuff at whatever, like that's not 886 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 5: her thing. But it was like one of those things 887 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 5: when she let it go. I'm like, you, you have 888 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 5: no idea how many of you caught that big I 889 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 5: have caught two for sure in my life that broke. 890 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 5: I caught one that was twenty two and I caught 891 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 5: one that was twenty three with ten billion hours of effort. 892 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah right. I wasn't in first grade. 893 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 5: Right, And so that was just one of those things 894 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 5: where I was like, this is just such a beautiful fish. 895 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 5: And you know, when you look at the studies of 896 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 5: how how old a fish that that could be where 897 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 5: we live a couple hours south of there, they did 898 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 5: a pretty good study on smallmuff a long time ago 899 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 5: and to get to fourteen inches, which on the river 900 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 5: where that fish or where they were studying those fish 901 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 5: was a keeper the slot whatever it was seven I 902 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 5: think it was seven years old, seven years and so 903 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 5: you think about a fish that's a couple hours north, 904 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 5: short growing season, hitting twenty two inches, you know, I mean, 905 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 5: you're like that fish might have been out there for 906 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 5: fifteen years, I don't know, but a long time, and 907 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 5: I just think that's cool as hell. Yeah, that that 908 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 5: is really cool. Now, can't could you have gotten a replicam. 909 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 4: Out of that fish? 910 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 5: We could have, you know, I mean it's like it's 911 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 5: just not into that, right, you get when you get 912 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 5: really we catch a lot of big fish, and we 913 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 5: had really nice pictures of it. 914 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 4: It was just this cool moment. 915 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 5: And so yeah, maybe I should have measured the girth 916 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 5: and done the whole thing I did. 917 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 4: I just didn't. 918 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, in the South, we have or at 919 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: least in where I'm from, we have small mouth in 920 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: creeks and rivers, not as much in the lakes like 921 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: people's largemouth bass fish and the lakes. But you would 922 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: go to the creeks and rivers in the mountains to 923 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 2: catch small mouth and they, you know, a big one. 924 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 2: I don't really know length. Barry would know length pretty good, 925 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 2: but you know, like a two or three pounder would 926 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: be a nice creek fish. 927 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean that's I'm sure down where 928 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 5: you live that's connected to water town picture and rocks. 929 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you. 930 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 5: Don't have rocks, you know, the boulders. You just don't 931 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 5: have a lot of smallies. 932 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, cool, great photo, great photo. All right, let's 933 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: go to my This is the final photo in our 934 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: Thursday throwback Thursday. 935 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 3: All right. 936 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 2: In the in the front of the fore wheeler, there 937 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 2: is my youngest son, Shepherd Nukeomb crying wearing his cowboy boots. 938 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: That's Bear John Newcomb in the middle there who I 939 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: think a lot of people know Bear. 940 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: And uh, if you'll notice that is a live coyote tied. 941 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 4: To the back of the of the four wheeler. 942 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: And that day, it was in late summer, and we'd 943 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: gone to this place that we were going to deer 944 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: hunt from some private land and it took the boys 945 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: and we'd hung a stand and it was it was 946 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: a funny moment because I literally remember like wanting to 947 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: make the trip fun for the boys. And I told them, 948 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: I said, y'all stay here at this four wheeler. 949 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 3: I'll be back. 950 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 2: And I really didn't know what I was looking for, 951 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: but I knew I was going to find something and 952 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 2: bring it back to them. 953 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. 954 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 2: And I took off and they're little guys and they're 955 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: throwing rocks and wrestling there around the four wheeler on 956 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: a little road, and I go off in the woods 957 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 2: and I don't walk fifty yards and I see a 958 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: litter of coyot pups get up in front of me 959 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: and flush like a covey of quail, and they take 960 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: off running and I take off running after them. And 961 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 2: basically it was like a cheetah chasing a herd of gazelle. 962 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 8: You know. 963 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 3: One would split. 964 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 2: Off to the right and I'd stick with the two, 965 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: and then one split off to the left, and I 966 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: just picked the one. 967 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 3: And I could run as. 968 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: Fast as that cayo pup, but I couldn't catch it, 969 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 2: and it he took a turn and started going down 970 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: this real rocky drainage, and I remember it just like 971 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: it was yesterday. I'm running so fast, is as fast 972 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: as I can run downhill, running on this boulder patch, 973 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: and I start to feel my chest and head lean 974 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: out in front of my face, and I know I'm toast, 975 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 2: and I just say, I just just go straight down, 976 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 2: just fly through the air land on the rocks. Figure 977 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm all busted up. And also Tony figured that the 978 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 2: coyote has gotten away because he was like eight feet 979 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: in front of me, both of us running full speed. 980 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 2: I bite the dust and when I stand up, I 981 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 2: see him. 982 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 3: I saw him duck into a little hole like he 983 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 3: gave up the chase. 984 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 2: Immediately when I bit the dust. And so I jump 985 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: up and he's under this rock. And I flip over 986 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 2: the rock, thinking Mama cayote might be in there. I 987 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: didn't know, and there's that pup curled up on the ground. 988 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: I reached and just grabbed him by the nape of 989 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: the neck, grab him up like. 990 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 3: This and he just goes limp. 991 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: And I walked back to Baron Shepherd and boys, I'm 992 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 2: telling you, I was a hero of the year when 993 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 2: I walked back up and I had that kayo pup 994 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 2: by the nape of the neck and said, boys, look 995 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 2: what I caught. And I had a little rope and 996 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: tied him to the to the to the to the 997 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: back of the vehicle there and took him home and 998 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: we kept him for about a week. And I also 999 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 2: at that time it was legal in Arkansas to have deer, 1000 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: and we we were raising the deer at that time too, 1001 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 2: And I kept the deer and the coyote in the 1002 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: same little kennel. And then the coyote. Is everybody interested? 1003 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 2: I hope the story's not going too long. The kyote started, 1004 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: I thought, well, I'm going to raise this kyote. We're 1005 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: gonving pat kyote. And it started getting mean and biting me, 1006 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 2: and so I knew I had to get rid of it. 1007 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: But it and this, this is true. 1008 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: I was worried about the legal ramifications of killing a 1009 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: coyote out of season. I mean it was on a 1010 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 2: deer hunting property, like we're trying to get rid of coyotes. 1011 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 2: So you thought I might have just exterminated the coyote, 1012 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 2: but I actually took it out into another place and 1013 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 2: turned it loose. 1014 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 4: Why did you take it back where you caught it? 1015 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 3: Because it's where a deer hunt Tony he put on 1016 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 3: the story of the coyote. Why we called him Wiley? 1017 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 4: Very original, very original? 1018 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 3: All right? All right? 1019 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 2: What is success Throwback Thursday? Great photos, guys. We're now 1020 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 2: going to go on to interview number two. We're going 1021 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: to be interviewing a guy that Brent knows. His name 1022 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: is Each Stewart from Arkansas. Brent, I'm gonna let you 1023 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 2: take it over. 1024 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 4: My buddy. Each. 1025 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 6: He is the director of the Public Timber Project there 1026 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 6: in Arkansas. He's a dedicated lifelong duck hunter water fowler, 1027 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 6: good friend of mine, and I want to get him 1028 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 6: on here and talk about the stuff that he's doing. 1029 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 4: Each. Can you hear us, buddy, gotcha? 1030 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: Can y'all hear me? 1031 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 4: I got you? Man? 1032 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 1: Each tell us about Thanks for having me. 1033 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 4: You're very welcome. 1034 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 6: We're pleased that you hear tell us about the project 1035 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 6: you got going, what the name of it is, what's 1036 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 6: your role in it is, and what the plan is 1037 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 6: for Arkansas. 1038 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks for thanks again. My name's Eah Stewart. 1039 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: I guess I'm I'm the president of the Public Timber Project, 1040 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: and in reality, I'm just one of the fellaws that's 1041 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: started it, but one of us had to fall on 1042 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: the grenade and call ourselves the president. We formed ourselves 1043 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: as a form profit here in Arkansas, so we had 1044 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: to get organized on paper at least at the very beginning. 1045 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: But in reality, the Public Timber Project is a grassroots 1046 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: movement for public land duck hunters all across the country. 1047 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: Of course, our focus was on issues that we were 1048 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: seeing in Arkansas and our public lands, so we're more 1049 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: of a social experiment and a movement than we are 1050 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,479 Speaker 1: on profit. And at the end of this I'll ask 1051 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: folks to if you want to support us, support us 1052 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: by following us reaping out. We don't really need your 1053 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: money right now. The only expenses we have is on 1054 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: ball caps and trash bags. But I'll step back a 1055 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: little bit and talk a little bit about why we 1056 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: started in the first place. And for folks that don't 1057 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: duck commers that aren't from the South, that aren't aware, 1058 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, in the duck hunting world, hunting ducks and 1059 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: flat under sort of the holy grail of duck hunting. 1060 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen ducks finish through the canopy of 1061 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: the trees and land at your feet in the woods, man, 1062 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: you ain't lived. And there's only so many places we 1063 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: can do that. Arkansas happens to be one of the 1064 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: states that has more public land available for folks to 1065 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: carry on this tradition than any other state in the US, 1066 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: But most of the states in the South have public lands, 1067 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: state and federal where folks can go and hunt this way, 1068 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 1: and it's an old way of hunting. It's an old tradition. 1069 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: This is duck hunting. Flooded timber in the South. It's 1070 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: part of our culture, it's part of our identity. It's 1071 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 1: who we are. A lot of us included. I'd rather 1072 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: rather skunked in the woods than shoot a limit on 1073 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: a rice field, because it's something about being. 1074 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 4: In the woods. 1075 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: It's the way we hunt. It's our history, our tradition. 1076 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: Like I said, this is culture for us down here. 1077 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: And things are changing and not all further better. On 1078 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: our public lands there in Arkansas. We've got a lot 1079 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: of management issues. Don't necessarily get into but we've got 1080 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: a lot of challenges. I'll leave it at that. And 1081 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that's come about in the last 1082 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: few years, the way the state and the Feds are 1083 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: modified and changing how they're managing these places is that 1084 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: fewer and fewer places are holding water. So all these 1085 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: flooded timber areas in the South that we duck hunt, 1086 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: these are forests. That's forest management. These are forests that 1087 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: floods seasonally. As the Mississippi comes up in the winter 1088 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: and all the rivers in Arkansas and all the southern 1089 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 1: states flood up with water. These forests get water on them, 1090 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: and the water comes up and it lets the ducks 1091 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: come in there. It gives them safety, shelter, food. They 1092 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: feed on acorns and all the other food in these areas. 1093 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: And so if you have less and less water on 1094 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: our public lands, then the places that we do have water, 1095 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: what we're seeing is a huge concentration of hunters in 1096 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: these few areas. And probably nowhere is this more the 1097 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: Black River here in Arkansas. And I hate to mention 1098 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: the Black Rivers so much because folks that locals up there, 1099 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: that live and hunt up there, they don't really want 1100 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: everyone knowing about the Black River. But the word is 1101 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: out on the Black River. I think they ain't no 1102 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: secret man. It's all over the internet and YouTube. So 1103 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: just to kind of paint a little bit of a 1104 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: picture on why the public timber project exists. Last season 1105 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: on duck Opener at Ashball Boat Ramp, which is one 1106 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: of the three probably busiest boat ramps on the Black River, 1107 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: we had a thousand trucks and boat trailers lined up 1108 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: at the boat ramp. That line it stretched out a 1109 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: mile and a half from the boat ramp and fellas 1110 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: were in line for up to a week before opening morning. 1111 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: That's a thousand trucks and trailers at one boat ramp, 1112 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: there's no trash services, there's no porta potties, and the 1113 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: impact this has happened on this area, it's an consequence 1114 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: of our current management, if that makes sense. We're really 1115 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: impacting this these areas in a way that we're causing 1116 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: damage to some of these areas. So we're seeing changes 1117 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: like that happening in duck hunting in Arkansas and the South. 1118 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of areas that we used to 1119 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: hunt that aren't holding water and aren't holding ducks, and 1120 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: we're seeing this huge concentration of hunters on fewer and 1121 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: fewer public land areas that have water and have birds. Okay, 1122 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing some other big changes on public lands down 1123 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: here with duck hunting that it's sort of all this 1124 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: stuff fits in together. Probably one of the biggest ones 1125 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 1: concerned about is the changing demographic of the public land 1126 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: duck hunter in the South, in particular in Arkansas. Now, 1127 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: when we all grew up, if you duck hunted in 1128 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: Arkansas at all, on you hunted public if you weren't 1129 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,359 Speaker 1: you weren't a rich man, if you were a poor 1130 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 1: kid like I was, and you hunted the ramp because 1131 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: you couldn't afford membership at a private club. You were 1132 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: going to run into a whole litany of fellas at 1133 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,760 Speaker 1: the boat ramp, and there was going to be plenty 1134 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 1: of old timers there that had been doing it their 1135 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: whole lives, that had a thing or two to teach 1136 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: the rest of us. Well, because of this increase of 1137 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: pressure that we're seeing, we've run off all our old timers. 1138 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: You just don't sing no more out of the boat ram. 1139 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: So what we have is basically a angry mob of 1140 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:19,240 Speaker 1: twenty three year olds that are being mentored by YouTube. 1141 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: And if you want to I love it, I watch y'all. Well, 1142 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: if you were to talk to my dad, who's still 1143 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: duck hunts with me seventy eight years old, he tell 1144 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: you that there ain't a show on YouTube that ain't 1145 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: tree popping dirks. So the point being that these young 1146 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 1: fellas are getting into duck hunting. They're not being taken 1147 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: out by their dads and their uncles and their granddads. 1148 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: They're learning everything they can from YouTube and our opinion 1149 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: that we're making the wrong folks famous in duck hunting, 1150 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: and we've got some just bad examples out there, and 1151 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: we're seeing our culture shift. We're seeing traditions and the 1152 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 1: ways we used to hunt things that got passed down 1153 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: from generation the generation is we're seeing it and road 1154 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: and change and all but disappeared from the landscape when 1155 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: we go duck hunting. And so as a response to that, 1156 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: like every other duck camp in Arkansas in the South, 1157 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, we sit around and we complain about all 1158 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: the problems. 1159 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 4: Of duck hunting. 1160 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: Yes, at our camp, we decided we wanted to do 1161 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: something about it. And uh, you said, preach, ain't preaching 1162 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,919 Speaker 1: really talk cheat everybody in duck hunts preaching about duck hunt. 1163 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: So we thought from the beginning, hey, if we're going 1164 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: to change things for the better, it needs to be 1165 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: through action and not just So last fall we started 1166 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 1: doing cleanups here in Arkansas, and we started off down 1167 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: on the White River Clarendon at a boat ramp that's 1168 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: probably one of the most trash places that you could 1169 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: launch a boat to go hunt ducks or get a 1170 00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: real busy boat ramp. We did a clean up, not really, 1171 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: we didn't everybody show up, but we thought this is 1172 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: a good place to start. We just need to start 1173 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 1: showing up organized duck hunters and get folks to come 1174 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork, show up to our cleanups, get 1175 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: involved in a positive way, making a difference in our woods. 1176 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: And the next cleanup we did, we had a cople 1177 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: people show up, and the next one we had a 1178 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: couple more folks show up, and it slowly started building 1179 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: and we realized early on that these cleanup projects, that 1180 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,280 Speaker 1: these boat ramps were working. The other thing that happened 1181 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: is we had a lot of duck hunters reaching out 1182 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: to us across the South and all of Minnesota, Cannon, 1183 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: all over the place that started finding out about us 1184 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: on social media do and they wanted to get involved, 1185 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: but they couldn't make it to any of our organized cleanups, 1186 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: and so we started our hat campaign, which is basically, 1187 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: duck hunters, clean up your local area. There's publicans that 1188 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: you love that that's where you hunt, make ownership, clean them, up, 1189 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: them up, be a good role model, Send us the picture, 1190 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: and we want to fill social media with positive images 1191 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: coming from the duck hunting community as opposed to the 1192 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: fist fights and duck holes and the horse races to 1193 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: get to your spot. There's far too much negative press. 1194 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: We're our own worst enemies. Out there. We're painting a 1195 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: picture to the ag FC and to all the land 1196 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: management ag. 1197 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 2: Got to interrupt you just for a second, man, this 1198 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 2: this is incredible. I'm enthralled for just for sake of time, man, 1199 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: how can we help you? 1200 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 8: Where? 1201 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 3: Where can people get involved? 1202 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for really being because I could talk for an 1203 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: hour you did. The first thing is, uh, find us 1204 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: out on social media on Instagram at the Public Timber Project. Okay, 1205 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: the Public Timber Project there, okay, the Public Temper Project. 1206 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook and YouTube and TikTok 1207 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: under the same name. We've got some short films coming out. 1208 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: We've got a full length film coming out later this 1209 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: duck season. We post our and all of our contacting 1210 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: on there. Anybody's in the ball involved, message me on Instagram, 1211 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: and me or Blakely somebody else will reach back to you. 1212 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 3: Okay, awesome, take there. 1213 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you each, Really appreciate you coming on today, 1214 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. Love it excellent, all right, man, take care, 1215 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: take care. 1216 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 4: Wow. 1217 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: I had no idea there'd be a thousand thousand boats 1218 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 2: lined up at. 1219 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 4: All, And that's just one access, you know. That's incredible. 1220 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 4: That's one access. 1221 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 6: I remember twenty five years ago, my brother and I 1222 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 6: would go to a public access on a Tuesday hunting 1223 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 6: public ground and be the only folks in the parking lot. 1224 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 4: Times have changed, the good old days. 1225 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 3: Ye wow wow, All right, each Stewart. 1226 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,959 Speaker 2: All right, we're moving right along to our Multari trail 1227 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 2: camera contest. And it's on this our friends at Moultrie 1228 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 2: our sponsoring a contest where we're gonna be giving away 1229 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 2: a camera and we're gonna look at. 1230 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 3: Some some photos. 1231 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 2: What do you think do you think we should look 1232 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: up the photos first, just to get some some some 1233 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 2: good vibes going and then talk about the Edge three. 1234 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 3: What do you want to do, Tony? 1235 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 4: We kind of need to move it. 1236 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 3: Along here, love it. 1237 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 2: Let's let's let's put up the trail camera images. The 1238 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 2: winner will receive two Edge two First Light Specter Camo 1239 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: Edition Moultrie cameras with a tin watt solar pack bundle 1240 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 2: with it and a two hundred and fifty dollars gift 1241 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 2: card from the Meat to the Medat store, a two 1242 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars gift card. 1243 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 3: To first Light. 1244 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 2: This is a huge price and a case in a 1245 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: case knife. Brent Reeves signature mini trapper. Hey, that may 1246 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: be the biggest thing there. Yeah, this is a huge 1247 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 2: prize that's going now, Phil, it's going to one of these. 1248 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 7: He's going to one of these. And here sound is 1249 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 7: gonna work. We have four entries. You guys are more 1250 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 7: than welcome to uh you know, add as much commentary 1251 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 7: and your opinions as you'd like. But the winner will 1252 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 7: be selected by the live chat. I will put up 1253 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 7: a poll. Okay, so if you look at all after 1254 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 7: you look at all the pictures, the live chat will 1255 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 7: vote for a couple of minutes, and whoever has the 1256 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 7: most votes will win. 1257 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 2: That crazy Okay, So we're gonna need everybody's help. Phil, 1258 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 2: show us the first picture, first trail camera photo in 1259 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 2: our contest, Lamb, we've got a big woods timber velvet 1260 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 2: buck and the the the the What we were trying 1261 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 2: to do here is get people to show us velvet bucks. 1262 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if I mentioned that every Trail Comera, 1263 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 2: every trail camera contest has a theme. This month's theme 1264 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 2: for the Multie Trail Cram contest is velvet buck. So 1265 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 2: that is a beautiful image right there, A big old buck. 1266 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 4: I see white oak trees, mm hmmm. I see some 1267 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 4: are trees. 1268 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 3: I like that, kicker. 1269 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 4: I was wondering if we were working with a river 1270 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 4: bottom situation. 1271 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Here looks that looks like a southern river bottom buck 1272 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,479 Speaker 2: to me. All right, so we got the we're gonna 1273 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 2: call that the big buck from Andrew. 1274 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 7: And this is from Andrew. Number one, okay, that's number one. 1275 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 6: Number two air bar is that that's. 1276 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:38,439 Speaker 2: A mule deer jumping a a little a little little 1277 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: drawl there, got a little buddy behind him. 1278 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see a little buck back there. 1279 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I see it back there. 1280 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a classic. 1281 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 4: That's action photo. I like that. 1282 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I like that all right. 1283 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 7: Number that that's from I like hunting. 1284 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 4: Okay. 1285 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 7: Number three is from Sea Nutson or C. K Nutson. 1286 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 3: Wow, the albino buck. That's impressive, right, even the velvet's white. 1287 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 4: Check that out. 1288 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 3: That's impressive. I'd like to know the history of that. 1289 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 2: That story looks like last looks like a twenty twenty 1290 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 2: four photo. It appears to be a northern photo by 1291 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: the spruce. 1292 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 4: Or I was gonna guess Wisconsin. 1293 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 2: They have a lot of white deer up there. Yeah, 1294 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 2: that's that's impressive. I mean you, I'll probably never get 1295 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 2: a trail career picture of a white deer. 1296 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 6: So that one's in Missouri, not far from where we Turkeynda. 1297 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Oh is that right? Interesting? 1298 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Okay, last photo in the trail camera contest this month, 1299 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 2: we've got have shed velvet buck. 1300 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 4: That's it. 1301 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Those are always really cool because that happens really quick. 1302 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 2: There's just this very short window of time, like hours, yes, 1303 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 2: in their years buck shedding his velvet. 1304 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 5: I watched a bachelor group when I was hunting in 1305 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 5: North Dakota one time, going and bedding a little drainage, 1306 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 5: and the buck that I wanted to shoot in the 1307 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 5: group was velvet when he went to bed and when 1308 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 5: I watched him get out and come start walking toward 1309 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 5: my stand, he had shed it completely. 1310 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 3: Really, did you kill it? 1311 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 4: I didn't kill him, but I killed his buddy. 1312 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 5: He ran right on through. He had a destination to 1313 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 5: go to. I couldn't stop him, but I took a 1314 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 5: consolation prize. I was pretty happy, and he was in 1315 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 5: full velvet. 1316 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're. 1317 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 7: Gonna need everybody a recap here and then we'll start 1318 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 7: the pull here. Ever one the. 1319 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 3: First one is the big buck. 1320 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 2: I feel like for pure aesthetics of lighting, imagery, beauty. 1321 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 3: That's hard to beat. Go to the next one. 1322 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 4: Also a recent photo? 1323 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 3: Was it recent? 1324 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1325 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 2: Here we got the action photo. This is our action photo. Okay, 1326 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 2: so there's something cool about okay. 1327 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1328 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 3: And then we got the. 1329 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 2: Once a once in a lifetime kind of kind of photo, 1330 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, pretty impressive big buck too. Usually, you know, 1331 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 2: if it's some little scrapper, I'd be like, that's cool. 1332 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 2: That's a big old buck too, right, That's that's impressive. 1333 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 2: And then we got the uh, we got the nighttime 1334 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: shedding velvet buck. 1335 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 7: All right, starting the poll right now? 1336 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 3: Should we discuss what we think? 1337 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 7: Phil, just keep talking. 1338 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 3: I'm well, go ahead, what do y'all think? Which one 1339 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 3: you least impressed with? Which one you're voting for? Let's 1340 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 3: make it quick. 1341 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 6: They're all impressive. I have at least experience with Muley's, 1342 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 6: so that didn't really. I mean, I like the photo 1343 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 6: because of the action. But the big one, the big 1344 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 6: one is standing in that wide oak bottom that. 1345 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 4: That grab right there. Yeah, that and. 1346 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 6: It's like a three day old photograph. 1347 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 4: That's cool. That's that's right where I'm at too. 1348 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 5: When I look at that picture, I mean, obviously it's 1349 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 5: a beautiful deer, beautiful deer, but where it's at, I mean, 1350 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 5: that's the kind of stuff I just love to hunt. 1351 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 5: I look at that picture, and that picture brings me 1352 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 5: into a place where I would see a deer like that. 1353 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with the team here. 1354 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 2: I would be voting for Andrew's big Buck number one, 1355 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 2: but I think you can make a case for the 1356 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 2: albino buck. 1357 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 8: It is. 1358 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 7: The pull is very tight right now. So if you 1359 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 7: haven't voted yet, get in there and let your voice 1360 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 7: be heard. 1361 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 2: Andrew, if you're out there, what are the chances that Brent, 1362 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 2: Brent can come hunt that buck with you? 1363 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 4: I'll film you with my shotgun. 1364 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 3: Now you can film Brent. All right? Four photos big 1365 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 3: Buck Muley, believe. 1366 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 7: You, guys, I mean yet, ten more seconds on the 1367 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 7: clock here, and those ten seconds can make it different. 1368 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 7: That's how close? 1369 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 4: This close? 1370 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 2: And the winner of this gets a huge prize package, 1371 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 2: two Moultary Cameras, Meet Eater gift card, two to fifty 1372 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 2: dollars gift card, two hundred and fifty dollars First Light 1373 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 2: gift card, and Britt Reeves case knife signature Mini trapper, huge, 1374 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 2: prize package huge. 1375 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 7: I think I actually I might have a drum roll here. 1376 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 7: I don't have a drummer, but I do have a winner. 1377 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 7: Sound whoever wins, I'm sorry. 1378 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 2: I think the big Buck's gonna win. I think the 1379 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 2: fact that all three of us would have picked that one. 1380 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 7: I have ended the poll. 1381 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 3: Poll has ended. 1382 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 7: So in last place, with only three percent of the vote, 1383 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 7: was the number four from Marrik Kessler shedding uzing. 1384 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, thanks for the submission, Eric. 1385 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 7: And then in third place with twenty seven percent of 1386 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 7: the vote was your guy's favorite, Angrey Molino's. 1387 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 1388 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 7: And so in second place with thirty two percent of 1389 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 7: the vote, we had the flying Buck from I Like Hunting, 1390 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 7: which means the albino buck from Chad Nutson. You're the winner. 1391 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Chad, congratulations. I'd like to know if that's a 1392 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 2: deer that you had access to, what happened to it? 1393 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 3: Did somebody get that deer? 1394 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 4: Did he? 1395 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 3: Is he still out there? That's pretty cool? 1396 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Well man, congratulations, And man, you got a lot of 1397 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 2: decisions to make about what to do with those gift cards, 1398 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 2: and you know where Brent's gonna hunt up there with, 1399 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 2: so congratulations, Tony tell us about the Moultrie Edge. 1400 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 5: So I got a Moultrie Edge three right here in 1401 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 5: this fancy box. We learned all about these dudes yesterday. 1402 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 5: So I mean, this is this isn't my world. But 1403 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 5: some some of the listeners here Southern guys running feeders. 1404 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 4: They have Moultrie Connect. 1405 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 5: You can basically manage and monitor your feeders and it's 1406 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 5: a whole system. It's a totally way more efficient way 1407 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 5: to live in that world, which isn't my world. What 1408 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 5: is my world is trying to find big Bucks on 1409 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 5: a natural pattern. And you know, I know AI is 1410 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 5: sort of a buzzword out there right now. Anybody who 1411 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 5: plays in the stock market or messes around Wall Street 1412 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 5: bets you're seeing Nvidia and you're seeing Palenteer in these 1413 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 5: companies that are they're doing a lot with AI or 1414 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 5: you hear hear about a lot. Well, Moultrie has Moultrie 1415 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 5: AI coming out on this Edge three. And one of 1416 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 5: the things this can do is help you filter through 1417 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 5: to only get videos of Bucks sent to your sent 1418 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 5: right to your apps, set right to your phone, instead 1419 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 5: of getting notifications for all the other critters, doze whatever. 1420 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 5: If you want to select it down pretty far. You 1421 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 5: can you can kind of customize it too. If you 1422 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 5: want to get just photos of non target animals or 1423 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 5: photos of all animals, but also get videos sent to 1424 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 5: you of bucks. You can do that too. And I 1425 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 5: keep thinking about this. I'm heading back down to Nebraska 1426 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,560 Speaker 5: where I'm hunting with Steve this fall. I have a 1427 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 5: whole bunch of cameras down on this ranch that we're hunting. 1428 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 5: It's a brand new property to us, working cattle ranch, 1429 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 5: and so I put up cameras and in some spots 1430 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 5: I'm getting cattle, I'm getting beavers, I'm getting geese, I'm 1431 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 5: getting lots of raccoons, non target animals. And so when 1432 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 5: I go back down there, I'm going to swap out 1433 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 5: some of those cameras with these edge threes because I'm filtering. 1434 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Through don't want to get notifications about cows. Right that 1435 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 2: when it sends out a picture to you, it's using 1436 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 2: battery life, So the moultra AI when you program it, 1437 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 2: and some of these guys that are putting cameras over 1438 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 2: feeders are potentially getting hundreds of pictures of a. 1439 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 5: Day, right well, right, And when you put up a 1440 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 5: camera in a pasture, that doesn't have cows in, and 1441 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 5: they put it in cows. You get hundreds of pictures 1442 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 5: a day too, So it's and this is you know, 1443 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 5: I like pictures of deer, I like pictures of all animals, 1444 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 5: but this is like our rut hunt. So I'm kind 1445 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 5: of just trying to key in on the bucks. The 1446 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 5: other thing I'll say about this quick. This isn't new 1447 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 5: to the Edge three, but it is a feature of it. 1448 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 5: A lot of cameras for for a while had like 1449 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 5: a live aim feature they had. They had some kind 1450 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 5: of you know, viewing window, LCD screen, whatever, so you 1451 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 5: could set it up and point in the right direction. 1452 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 5: Because I do a lot of public land hunting, I'll 1453 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 5: put them up high, uh in this situation, because we 1454 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 5: knew cows were going to get rotated through there, and 1455 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,959 Speaker 5: I didn't want them to mess with the cameras. 1456 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 4: You're mounting them higher and pointing them down. 1457 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 5: And so there's a live aim feature on here that 1458 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 5: you can go to your phone and see exactly what 1459 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 5: you're seeing. So I can I can customize that and 1460 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 5: set it up exactly the way I want to, so 1461 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 5: I know when I walk away, I'm not waiting for 1462 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 5: that test picture or anything like that. I'm like, Okay, 1463 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 5: I know this is going to be aimed exactly how 1464 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 5: I want it to be. 1465 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, the multies. 1466 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one of the things I was most 1467 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,600 Speaker 2: impressed about was the price point on those things. I 1468 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what that's going to be, but I 1469 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,799 Speaker 2: mean this is not this is like under one hundred 1470 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 2: and forty cameras one hundred and fifty dollars camera. Yeah, 1471 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,480 Speaker 2: so I mean that's pretty inexpensive. 1472 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 3: And they and they the. 1473 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 2: Some of the other cameras are less cheaper than. 1474 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 4: That, right and it. 1475 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 5: And the last thing I'll say about this too is 1476 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't that long ago in cellular cameras 1477 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 5: where we had to select a Verizon, select a carrier 1478 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 5: right and at and T whatever. Now you can connect 1479 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 5: to all major carriers with this sover whatever company has 1480 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 5: the best reception wherever you're gonna go. 1481 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,719 Speaker 4: So in the white tail world, maybe not that big. 1482 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 5: Of a deal in a lot of places, but if 1483 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 5: you're trying to monitor a water hole or a wallow 1484 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 5: for ELK or you know, some of the western applications 1485 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 5: and just someplace, you know how it is like some 1486 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 5: places you go where for whatever reason, your buddy's got Verizon, 1487 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 5: he's got awesome coverage, and you have AT and T 1488 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 5: and it sucks. It's kind of nice to not have 1489 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 5: to worry about that anymore. It'll pick the best one 1490 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 5: and use it. 1491 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 2: Yep, yeahep excellent, excellent, excellent. We're moving on to the 1492 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 2: end of our show here, guys. We appreciate everybody being 1493 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 2: here commenting. We're gonna take a last round here of 1494 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,600 Speaker 2: listener feedback. 1495 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 7: Phil, Yeah, I got it here. Let's go ahead and 1496 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 7: talk about your book, Clay. Where's where's the question? It 1497 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 7: was somewhere If you just want to start talking. 1498 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 3: About Yeah, I had somebody ask about the book. 1499 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 7: We go let's promote or Hey, Clay, how's your book 1500 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 7: coming along? I'm really looking forward to. 1501 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 3: Hey man, that. 1502 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 4: Guy right there is the most He may be the 1503 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 4: most lower listener ever. 1504 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 7: I see him every he lives in Hungary. Clay, how 1505 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 7: you watch the show? He's here every single week. He's 1506 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 7: got great questions, he's got a bear grease out. It's 1507 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 7: a big fan. 1508 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 2: Ah man. The book is going incredible. It's it's changing 1509 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 2: my life. It really is just the discipline involved in 1510 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 2: the level of research. We do a lot of research 1511 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 2: on bear grease, but I've never had to research stuff 1512 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 2: like like we are for this book. And we're still 1513 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 2: a long long ways from from Clay's book coming out 1514 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 2: in Tony. But uh, I'm I'd say I've got We've 1515 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 2: got a third of the book in a format right 1516 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: now that I would feel comfortable, you know, sending to share. 1517 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 4: Can you share the target date with it? 1518 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 2: Or is that still though it's it's not really got you. Yeah, 1519 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 2: But the book is about the American black bear. It's 1520 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 2: the it's the it is the the bio of the 1521 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 2: American black bear, told like it's never been told before. Guaranteed, 1522 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 2: book has never been written like this before. It's going 1523 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 2: to blow your mind. 1524 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 1525 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 7: From Freddy Rick, another food centric question, he says he 1526 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 7: doesn't have much access to squirrels here in Nevada. Do 1527 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 7: you guy, do you think I could replace them with 1528 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 7: jack rabbit for recipes that call for squirrels. 1529 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, I ain't never had a jack rabbit. But if they, 1530 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 6: if they taste anything, I mean here, what you're going 1531 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 6: to do with a squirrel is what I'm gonna do 1532 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 6: with a cottontail. And that's frame powder is behind with 1533 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 6: buttermilk and flour. And though we meant some hot grease. 1534 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,799 Speaker 2: M I don't have a lot of experience with Jack Rabbits. 1535 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 2: I heard bad things about him though. 1536 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve, Steve was talking crap about him the other day. 1537 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 5: I think I think frying them would be the best bet. Yeah, 1538 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you're going to pull it 1539 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 5: off or not. 1540 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I ain't never had one, but 1541 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 4: good idea. 1542 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,719 Speaker 7: It's good. And talk about the Hall of Fame question 1543 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 7: Tigers Tiger's Fan sixty eight eighty four. 1544 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 2: If you're not familiar with the Bear Grease podcast, we 1545 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 2: have an official Bear Grease Hall of Fame which typically 1546 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 2: goes to There are I believe there are nine or 1547 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 2: ten members that people that have been inducted into the 1548 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. There's currently three living people in the 1549 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 2: Bear Grease Hall of Fame. Some of the more famous 1550 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 2: candidates would be Daniel Boone, to Cumpsa Osceola, Davy Crockett. 1551 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 2: Some of the less well known people would be the 1552 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 2: living plot Bear Hunter in East Tennessee, Roy Clark, Warner 1553 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 2: Glenn's in the Hall of Fame, Lawrence James Lawrence, my 1554 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 2: buddy mentor backwoodsman from Arkansas. So a lot of variety 1555 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 2: in the Burgers Hall of Fame. There's one woman in 1556 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 2: the Burgers Hall of Fame, Granny Henderson Eva Henderson. 1557 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 3: Bart Martyr of the Buffalo River. 1558 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 2: And man, you can't make this happen, Tiger, It's got 1559 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 2: to happen on its own, brother. I mean, we may 1560 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 2: go for a decade without a Hall of Famer. This 1561 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 2: is not staged, so we're just waiting for We're just 1562 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 2: waiting for the next legend to pop up. 1563 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,760 Speaker 3: So good question. Though. 1564 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,759 Speaker 2: Appreciate you paying attention. Brother, you're talking like huk Holgan. 1565 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 3: I really appreciate what you're doing out there. 1566 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 7: Let's do one more for Tony Jacob says, how old 1567 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 7: is too old to train a dog to blood trail? 1568 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 7: I'm color blind and having a dog has helped me 1569 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 7: find too deer. My lab is eight years old and 1570 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 7: I'd love to have her help me. 1571 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 5: Well, old dogs can learn new tricks, and I think 1572 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 5: I don't think there is an age where you can't 1573 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 5: teach them stuff. It changes how you train them a 1574 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,639 Speaker 5: little bit, you know. But teach that dog to blood trail. 1575 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 5: I mean, you're not going to take anything away from 1576 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 5: that dog, and it will. 1577 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 4: Learn what to do. 1578 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 5: I mean, the first dog that I trained to shed 1579 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 5: hunt was a Golden Retriever. I had several dogs ago, 1580 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 5: and I think she was five or six, probably five 1581 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 5: when I started teaching her. And it wasn't any different 1582 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 5: than taking an eight week old pup and being like, 1583 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 5: you know, here's what we're starting with. We're stringing together 1584 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 5: these behaviors the daisy chain them together until you finally 1585 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 5: have that skill set. Then you work on that. So 1586 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 5: train that eight year old lab. That lab will love it, 1587 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 5: and we'll help you find some dear. 1588 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 3: Excellent, great, excellent, let's call it. 1589 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 7: Let's call it there, guys. 1590 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 2: Well, hey, thanks everybody for joining Meat Eater Radio Live. 1591 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm certain that this is probably one of. 1592 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,839 Speaker 4: The best ever one you got my vote. 1593 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's vote on just razio if you think this 1594 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 2: is probably the best ever media radio live. Oh, phild 1595 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 2: we got accounts producer here. Hey, everybody, thank you so much. 1596 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 2: I can't wait to tune in next week. And uh, 1597 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 2: you know what, keep. 1598 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 3: The wild places wild because that's where the bears live. 1599 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,840 Speaker 4: Case Pocket now