WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Six degrees of NBA madness 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.360 Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:10.160 four hour NBA News. This's you, Chris Hanes. It's so time, 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:18.800 Mark's time. It's some time. This League Uncut is underway 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:23.960 and on fire. This should be a good one. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.440 Good evening friends, Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes for 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:35.800 another fresh and clean addition of this League Uncut. We're 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:41.240 recording Sunday night. The second round is over, the Conference finals, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:46.159 soon to begin the NBA Lottery almost upon us. But 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.720 just in a matter of seventy two hours since Chris 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.720 and I last connected to do one of these pods, man, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.640 has a lot happened in this league. There's a reason 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.160 we call it this league with a hashtag in front 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:10.600 of it, because it has been NonStop madness. As I said, 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:15.360 since Chris and I were last together. Saturday night, landed 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.840 in Chicago for my five day stint here for the 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.399 Draft Lottery, the league's annual pre draft combine, and was 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.120 barely on the ground when it emerged that the Phoenix 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:34.560 Suns had dismissed coach Monni Williams less than two years 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.280 after Bonnie Williams had the Sons in the NBA Finals. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.600 So what we've done here is like I said, we 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.400 could go in probably ten different directions, but we've narrowed 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.200 it down to six. We're going to try to spend 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.600 six ish minutes on each topic so we get to 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.680 them all. Never really done a format like this, but 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.160 we're going to see if it works. Chris, let us 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:09.120 start with Boston comfortably winning Game seven at home, but 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.200 we're going to focus on the flip side of that equation. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.080 The Philadelphia seventy six Ers go from up three to 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:22.800 a chance to close out the Celtics, their longtime historic nemesis, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:28.280 but especially a nemesis in the Joel Embiid era. They 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.600 have a chance to win that series at home. Jason 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.800 Tatum starts one for fourteen from the floor. The Sixers 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:41.320 can't do it. Game seven man a brutal, brutal showing 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.840 that is going to heap tons of criticism on Joel Embiid, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:53.440 on James Harden. Doc Rivers is certainly going to be 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.920 put in the crosshairs his future. I mean, this was 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.560 as bad an ending as the Sixers probably could have 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:06.160 mustard after what had seemingly been a very very successful season, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.760 so successful that Joel Embiid is the first time regular 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:15.000 season MVP. What happens next? Peer into the ch crystal 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.400 ball and tell me Doc, James Harden, Joel Embiid take 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.880 it wherever you want, but what happens next for these 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:28.520 guys after? Man, this was a rough finish. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.959 It was the worst case scenario of a finish for 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:36.440 the Philadelphia seventy six Ers's that's definitely that's definitely a 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:42.160 true fact. I think if we're talking about what's next, Stein, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.160 you gave us first of all, what did you report? 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.160 What was it twenty four hours forty eight hours before 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.080 the game? What did you report before? I answer that, Stein. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.880 Well, on Sunday morning, morning of the game, I posted 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.040 an around the league look at all the various coaching posts, 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.920 and I did include a line in a line in 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.840 there that Obviously there have been murmurs about Doc Rivers 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.880 potentially being in danger if the Sixers don't win this series, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.720 and after the game, Doc was very candid about it. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.200 Doc River's own quote was no one in this business 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.520 is safe. And I get that, and that is the 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.040 climate for coaches more than ever. I would say, though 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.680 I don't this is not Doc's fault. I don't think 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:29.440 that this series loss should be pinned on him because 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.120 of his record in closeout games, which is now seventeen 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:37.159 and thirty three, because this was his fifth successive loss 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.960 in a Game seven, that talk's going to be there. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.920 But to me, I'm sorry, this is on the two stars. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:48.400 This is not on the coach. The Sixers shot sixteen 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.400 for seventy one from three in Game six and Game 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:57.600 seven as just putrid shooting. And you know, James Harden, 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.560 we've been talking about the possibility that maybe he goes 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.360 to Houston. You know that's been circulated around the league 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.880 for ages now. But I mean, this add the Sixers 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:14.880 to that list of teams that grows longer every week 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.520 that the playoffs goes on. Of the you know these 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.279 teams that have major crosswords. I mean, they have major, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.320 major decisions to make in the offseason, and none of 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:23.880 them easy. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.479 With all that being said, I don't see Doc coming back. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:33.120 I don't I don't see Doc coming back the way 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.440 that the way this thing in it, like I said, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.479 it was the worst case scenario. Philadelphia had a chance 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:44.159 to close this out before Game seven, did not let 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.440 Jason Tatum get loose in the fourth quarter and in 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:53.200 this game. Come on, now, come on, now, it's just yes, 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.560 it's not on you know, everything is not on dot, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:56.560 but we know how to. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:57.000 Know you're right. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.840 And look that third quarter thirty three to ten. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.720 Come on, come on, unacceptable. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.400 I think Lom Murray had a stat on Twitter thirty 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.040 three to ten might be the worst fourth quarter ever 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:16.400 in a game seven in terms of scoring disparity. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.960 Yeah, I don't see Doc coming back. I do not 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.320 see him coming back. This will be an offseason where 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.640 we have we got a lot of premium coaches out 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.600 in the market. I don't know that there was a 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.920 lot of premium jobs out there in the market, but yeah, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.440 I think Doc will be added to that list. But 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.960 he's not. You know, what does James Harden do? If 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.520 you look at if you listen to what Joelnbid said 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:50.039 at his post game address, he made it seem like, oh, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.200 he didn't talk about James's future too much, but he 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.240 said those two can't do it alone. As if that's 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:03.159 his guy, that's his that's his partner, as if those 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.560 two are in it for a long haul. I don't 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.720 know that that is the case. So with that being said, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:15.240 we all heard about James Harden's desire to go back 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:21.280 to Houston. I mean, does it change things that that 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.040 there could possibly be a new coach on the horizon. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.840 Does that change Harden's stance? James Harden was asked about 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.360 his relationship with Doc Rivers after the game, and he said, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:38.000 it's okay, that's it. So there's gonna be a lot 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.400 I think there's gonna be a lot of upheaple in 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.960 this offseason. But if we're talking again, whenever you're talking 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:49.480 about removing a coach or whenever you're talking about replacing 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:54.000 a key player, the question that comes to my mind is, Okay, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:08:00.640 who's the upgrade? Who is that? Because even even if 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.320 you know I'm talking about prime coaching canvas out there, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.320 all of them come with some failure, all of them 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:10.080 come with warts. There's no perfect coach. Is there a 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.240 star coach? I guess you could call Botenholzer or Nick 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.680 Nurse a star, but you know they just got to 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.760 let go for you know, for some reasons. You know, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.640 there's some things that they they all have. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.120 I mean, I would think of the coaches who are 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.520 freshly available, MONI would would probably. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:29.760 Be the one. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.400 MONI would be the out of all them. Mini would 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:40.400 be probably the awkward. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.720 I guess there's you know, Manni and Doc are such 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:43.320 good friends. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.840 I mean they're really really close friends. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:51.320 So but can Monnie work with Darryl? Can they coexist? 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:57.400 Do they have the same philosophy on basketball? That's that's 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.160 another question. I don't know that friendship will play a 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.560 factor in the mighty taking that job or not. You know, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.560 mightey don't have anything to do with what what Doc 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.040 is going through. But so there's a lot of questions 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.520 that we just don't know the answers to right now. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.679 But there's going to be changing to the field, DeFi 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:19.160 seven six ers, roster, coaching staff, I don't know, maybe 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.679 even some sprinkles in the front office. Oh, we'll see. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:24.520 Well, I can tell you this one of the things 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.520 I'm hoping to find out while I'm here in Chicago, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.160 and I don't know that I'm going to get the answer, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:32.000 but I'm you know, the the hardened to Houston stuff. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.280 It's just been out there now for so long, literally months, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.880 not weeks. But I'm just so curious that you know, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.200 what if the Rockets win the lottery, what if the 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:46.839 Rockets win the right Tuesday Night to draft when Mina 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.160 and do you if you're the Rockets, would you still 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.280 want to go after Harden at that point? But we've 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.920 already can't we hit the sick, We've already passed a six. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.240 Minute mark on top of number one. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.480 So we are going to shift less than smoothly to 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:08.880 our second topic. It is the Phoenix Suns sat you know, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.559 Thursday night, game six at home, game six, to keep 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:13.440 their season alive. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.120 No DeAndre Ay, no Chris Paul. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.480 They go down by thirty at the half, eighty one 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.320 to fifty one at the half, they lose by twenty 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:26.600 five total no show, and less than forty eight hours later, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.720 Mani Williams is gone. Now again, you can't be surprised 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.640 anymore because as we've just been talking about, like in 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.800 the climate that we're in now, with this new CBA 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.000 coming in, you know, we it's always been said that 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.160 changing the coach is the easiest change to make. It's 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.280 the easiest way to show the fans and try to 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.120 convince everybody in the organization that we're making a major shakeup. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:56.000 But with this new CBA coming that's going to make 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.760 team buildings so much more restrictive and challenging and complicated 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.200 for the foremost spenders in the league. We know the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.600 Sons are going to revolve around Kevin Durant and Devin 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.640 Booker going forward. So you know already they have the 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.680 challenge of do they have to trade Ayton and or 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:21.640 Chris Paul just to restore the depth and ensure they 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.960 have the right mix around their two main guys. But 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.480 now there's this coaching change and man Matt Ishby has 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.880 just come in there, and I think a lot of 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.800 people around the league are looking at this going man, 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.400 this guy pushed so many chips into the into the 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.760 middle of the table to trade for Durant and now 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:45.560 he you know, ouss Maani Williams so quickly. I mean, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.040 there are a lot of people looking at this, just saying, man, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:52.040 this guy is you know, I mean putting his own 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.680 stamp on it, is putting it mildly. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.880 He's not playing. He's not playing. You definitely see the urgency. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.640 That's that's one thing you can see, definitely on his 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:07.080 first day on the job. Where do they go from here? 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.160 What I can tell you is that you know, it's 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:15.040 no secret the only two untouchable players are DeAndre Ayton 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:21.240 and excuse me, excuse me, the only two, the only 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:26.880 two untouchable players, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. Let me 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.319 get that out start. I definitely don't want the aggregators 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.000 to run run with that. But so, but that's not 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.880 to say there's going to be wholesale changes on the roster. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.760 I know Matt Matt Ishbia has been in contact with 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.520 Chris Paul. I know he's spoken with Devin Booker. You know, 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.840 he's communicating with these guys. He's you know, he's still 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:53.400 trying to get a pulse on what the best voice 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:59.920 would look like in coaching this team. And so you know, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.680 there's definitely gonna be some wholesale changes on the perimeter 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.120 of the roster, on the edges of the roster, and 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.800 somewhat in the middle. It's not one hundred percent sold 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.120 yet that there's going to be movement as it pertains 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:20.720 the DeAndre Aight and Chris Paul. Those are still conversations 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.520 that have to be had. I would expect those to 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:27.600 be had this coming week. But the Sons are not 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.640 of the mindset that they have to move DeAndre Aiight 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:38.080 know Chris Paul. So where do they go from here. Well, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.920 first you have to find a coach and this is 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:44.040 this is this, this is more of a trickier situation, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.600 you know, you know Stein, you know, the grand as 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.600 you report it, the grand prize of coaching for this 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:56.640 team would be if they can somehow Land Clippers head 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.959 coach Tyron Luke. I don't know how fees that is. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:07.240 It's hard for me to fathom the Clippers allowing TYLERU 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.320 to go to to go in conference, not. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.920 Just in conference, in division. I mean it's yeah, oh yeah, no, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.480 I mean it's both. And I tend to agree with you. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.320 I mean, I think that's who they would want. But 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.440 you know, you spend a lot more time around these 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.600 teams than me. But but from what I know, Steve 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:35.400 Balmer is a huge Tylo fan. And beyond the fact 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.040 that Steve Balmer is a huge Tylo fan, I mean, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.880 he's not an owner who gets out bid, and Tyler 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.960 is not even a coaching free agent, so it's unclear 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.800 how the Sons. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.120 Could get him. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.080 But I do think, like like you said, he's he 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:50.520 is at the top of the wish list. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.360 Yeah, and he's the top of the wish list. But 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.960 for other teams as well. That's just a tough ass. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:01.320 I don't see I don't see Balmer allowing that to happen. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:08.360 So let's talk about some other candidates. Mike Butenholzer I reported, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.760 you know he's on their list. Mike Butenholzer, Nick Nurse, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.800 and Kevin Young, who is an assistant coach who was 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.800 also I mean it was actually the associate head coach 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.920 under Monty Williams. He's somebody the Sons are looking at. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:27.520 He's somebody who is an ally of the players on 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:36.040 that roster, Chris Paul, Devin Booker, to be exact. There's 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.560 intrigue with him. There's some intrigue with him. He's actually 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:44.680 going to interview with the Milwaukee Bucks this week, I believe. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:50.120 So he's somebody who's caught the eye of some general 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.240 managers across the league. The only question would be, if 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.000 the Sons did make that move, is is he ready? 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.680 Is he ready to handle this? Is he ready to 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.480 handle the trajectory of which the Sons are trying to 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.440 go and easy ready to handle the personalities that come 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.640 with that. There's some people that locker room that believe 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.080 he's up to the task. So that's the triggering. But 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.520 you know, like we connected the dots with Philly, I 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.920 think Mini Williams is a prime candidate, really good. I 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.960 think he should be number one if he's not the 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.000 number one target in Philly. And again, I'm saying this 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.920 as if Doc Rivers is fired already. I'm just that 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.640 I'm pretty sure that's the way it's going to go down. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:41.080 But in Philly, I don't see that prime candidate yet. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:45.120 And there's going to be more prospects coaching prospects added 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.600 to the list of candidates in the interview pool. But 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.680 I just don't see that prime candidate. Do you see 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.040 one for Phoenix? That just makes sense? You say that's it? 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:02.000 No, not, I mean unless not unless Tyler was suddenly available. Look, 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.840 I mean there's there's excellent coaches out there. Nick Nurse, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.320 Mike Budenholzer, and Frank Vogel, just to name three I 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.840 have all won championships and are all on the open 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.320 coaching market. So there are plenty of accomplished coaches out there. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.000 But you know, I guess we're just gonna have to see. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.320 I guess we're gonna have to see. You know, why 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.119 does the Tylu stuff keep coming up there is is 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.080 there more to it than just smoke, And definitely before 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.000 we move on to the next topic, we got to 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.600 stay tuned on DeAndre and then Chris Paul because I 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.120 I think they are going to try to trade them both. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.320 I totally get that it's early in the process. Their 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:44.000 elimination just happened, but you know, they've got to get 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:50.560 depth around Durant and Booker, and the easiest way for 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.920 them to do that is to try to trade eight, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.080 but also Chris Paul because of his contract. I mean 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:02.200 it's you know, Chris Paul's contract, it's only fifteen point 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.960 eight million guaranteed. If either the Suns or a team 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:10.000 he is traded to gets off that contract by June 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.920 twenty eighth, you only owe Chris Paul fifteen point eight 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.120 million out of next year's thirty point eight million. So 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.080 that's why we have not discussed the prospect of an 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.840 eight and or CP three trade for the last time. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.080 But we went long on the Suns. I'm guessing we 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.000 went long on the Sixers, and knowing us we will 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.720 go long on all of these. We're trying to keep 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.399 them to six minutes, trying our hardest not doing a 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:32.920 great job. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:34.280 It's uncut. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.120 We're uncut league uncut. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.600 Six minutes might equal nine minutes. The Golden State Warriors, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:46.399 the defending champions, out nineteen to zero against the West 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.200 in the Steve Kerr Era. Until they come up against 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:55.040 Lebron James, Anthony Davis and the Los Angeles Lakers. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.040 The Warriors lose. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.359 But I have been very resistant to the last dance 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.919 stuff because this is not It's just not the last dance. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.399 First of all, there's a really strong likelihood that Steph, 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.720 Clay and Draymond are all going to be there when 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.240 camp starts. Bob Myers is the most likely prominent Warrior 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.840 to exit. And look, they have tough decisions to figure out. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.440 I mean, Draymond Green has a twenty seven point six 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.720 million player option, Clay only has one year left on 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.120 his deal. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:29.760 These guys want new deals. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.480 The Warriors are certainly going to want them to take 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.159 team friendly contracts to stay, which basically means pay cuts. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.359 You know, not an easy thing to go to guys 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.040 like Klay Thompson and Draymond Green after everything they've done 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.280 for this franchise and say will you please take a 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.760 lot less money to stay. But that's what the Warriors 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.280 are going to have to do. Those discussions become even 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.760 more complicated if it's not Bob Myers as the point 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:57.600 man for those negotiations. But as uncomfortable as that could 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.359 all get, I just I cannot see. I mean, Clay 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:06.760 Thompson to me is going nowhere, absolutely nowhere. And Draymond 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.159 came on this very podcast and spoke for a minute 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.800 after minute after minute, spoke for way longer than six 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.960 minutes about how much he wants to finish his career 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.480 with the Warriors. Reiterated as such at the podium. He 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.040 wants to ride out with the guys he wrote in 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.520 with he said, and I think that is what's going 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:24.960 to happen. 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.400 I agree as well. I agree as well. I think 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.120 they they're going to give him another run. I don't 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:31.480 know if this run, I don't know if the run 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.560 means another two year run, three years, one year or whatever, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.040 but they're going to give him another run. They still 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:43.000 And look Clay, the way Clay finished his playoffs, it 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.760 just wasn't up to par. He really struggled leave this 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.560 three for nineteen in the last finals, but he really 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.400 struggled in that series. But Clay had a really good 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.840 regular season, led the NBA in three pointers made, you know, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:00.360 so I can't forget. Let's not act like he's tope. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.280 He just doesn't have it anymore. Is he the same 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.960 Clay after those multiple injuries. No, he's not. But he 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.919 had a really good season, all star level type season, 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.160 so you know he's struggled. He struggled in the playoffs, 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.119 is particularly against the Lakers. So put that out. I 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.600 don't think anything is over yet again, Bob Myers, that's 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.640 the only hiccup that needs to be resolved. I don't, 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:25.760 and we should stay. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.320 We should also say Steve Kerr needs an extension as well. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.719 I mean, he's his contract is running near the end, 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.119 so they have a lot of tricky contractual stuff to 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:38.320 deal with. Beyond the fact that Jordan Poole's new deal, 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.399 which is at minimum one hundred and twenty three million 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.680 over four years, that is only just going to start 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.440 in this next season coming up. So I mean, they 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.000 have a lot of tricky financial stuff to work out. 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.720 But it's just it's just so hard for me to 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.800 imagine Draymond going somewhere else. 0:21:57.960 --> 0:21:58.560 I just can't. 0:21:58.600 --> 0:21:59.880 I'm not I cannot pick. 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.480 I don't see that at all, he said. He what 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.879 was his exact quote, something along the lines of, you know, 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.360 he wants to finish out his career with the Warriors. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.840 He's letting it be known. I don't think. I don't 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:17.480 think that's gonna change at all. Now we're talking Jordan Poole, 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.000 we're talking Jonathan Cominga, We're talking guys like that. You know, 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:26.000 that's where that's where things can get tricky. What I 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:30.480 mean by tricky, I think they're going to uh, I don't. 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.480 I don't see them being back. I don't see them 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.840 being back. I think Steve Kurr wants to rely on 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.520 some veteran guys. I think that's really what hurt him 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.800 this year. He didn't have the veteran guys. He didn't 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:45.280 Kamiga talent is ooh. I love Cominga. I love his game, 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:49.080 but I understand the hesitancy in coach Kerr not to 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:55.280 put him into games of this magnitude. Probably just doesn't 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:58.120 think he's ready. That might be the case, and that's 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.400 why I think Kaminga, just like they did with Wiseman, 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.359 you know, he's he's going to need to flourish on 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.160 a team with no expectation Warriors going to be allowed 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.520 to play through mistakes. He's not going to have the 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.040 opportunity with to go to State Warriors. But with that 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:17.199 being said, the Warriors, I think they can get a 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:21.000 real nice package back for Kaminga. I think Kaminga is 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.720 that talented in the league. Knows also for Jordan Poole, 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.639 even though his extension is kicking in had a the season, 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.800 didn't you know? The season was derailed a little bit 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.880 by what happened with him and Draymond. But I think 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.560 Pool can go somewhere and flourish and reach his potential. 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.440 So the Warriors have some really good assets that they 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.680 can alload to bring back some veterans that can help 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.280 them win now. So the Warriors are in a good 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.119 with all the question marks surrounding the Wars, they're in 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:57.960 a really good position to put themselves back into contention 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.280 and put themselves back in a situation where they were 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.800 better than this year. Steve Kurse said it after the 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.560 after the lost Game six loss of the Lakers, said 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.359 this was not a championship team. 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.840 Pier, Well, it's interesting that you say that because I 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.760 was talking to a team earlier today and kind of 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.439 that team expressed the same thought that, oh, you know, 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.000 if they decide to move Jordan Poole, they'll be able 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.199 to And man, I guess I just am in the 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:31.119 other camp of Jordan Poole's season was so rough. I 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.480 don't know how easy it's going to be to find 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:40.320 a trade partner for him if that's what the Warriors 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.119