1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: four hour NBA News. This's you, Chris Hanes. It's so time, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Mark's time. It's some time. This League Uncut is underway 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: and on fire. This should be a good one. 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Good evening friends, Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes for 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: another fresh and clean addition of this League Uncut. We're 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: recording Sunday night. The second round is over, the Conference finals, 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: soon to begin the NBA Lottery almost upon us. But 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: just in a matter of seventy two hours since Chris 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: and I last connected to do one of these pods, man, 11 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: has a lot happened in this league. There's a reason 12 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: we call it this league with a hashtag in front 13 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: of it, because it has been NonStop madness. As I said, 14 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: since Chris and I were last together. Saturday night, landed 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: in Chicago for my five day stint here for the 16 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: Draft Lottery, the league's annual pre draft combine, and was 17 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: barely on the ground when it emerged that the Phoenix 18 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Suns had dismissed coach Monni Williams less than two years 19 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: after Bonnie Williams had the Sons in the NBA Finals. 20 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: So what we've done here is like I said, we 21 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: could go in probably ten different directions, but we've narrowed 22 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: it down to six. We're going to try to spend 23 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: six ish minutes on each topic so we get to 24 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: them all. Never really done a format like this, but 25 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: we're going to see if it works. Chris, let us 26 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: start with Boston comfortably winning Game seven at home, but 27 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: we're going to focus on the flip side of that equation. 28 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: The Philadelphia seventy six Ers go from up three to 29 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: a chance to close out the Celtics, their longtime historic nemesis, 30 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: but especially a nemesis in the Joel Embiid era. They 31 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: have a chance to win that series at home. Jason 32 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: Tatum starts one for fourteen from the floor. The Sixers 33 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: can't do it. Game seven man a brutal, brutal showing 34 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: that is going to heap tons of criticism on Joel Embiid, 35 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: on James Harden. Doc Rivers is certainly going to be 36 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: put in the crosshairs his future. I mean, this was 37 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: as bad an ending as the Sixers probably could have 38 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: mustard after what had seemingly been a very very successful season, 39 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: so successful that Joel Embiid is the first time regular 40 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: season MVP. What happens next? Peer into the ch crystal 41 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: ball and tell me Doc, James Harden, Joel Embiid take 42 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: it wherever you want, but what happens next for these 43 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: guys after? Man, this was a rough finish. 44 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: It was the worst case scenario of a finish for 45 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia seventy six Ers's that's definitely that's definitely a 46 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: true fact. I think if we're talking about what's next, Stein, 47 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: you gave us first of all, what did you report? 48 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: What was it twenty four hours forty eight hours before 49 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: the game? What did you report before? I answer that, Stein. 50 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: Well, on Sunday morning, morning of the game, I posted 51 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: an around the league look at all the various coaching posts, 52 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: and I did include a line in a line in 53 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: there that Obviously there have been murmurs about Doc Rivers 54 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: potentially being in danger if the Sixers don't win this series, 55 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: and after the game, Doc was very candid about it. 56 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: Doc River's own quote was no one in this business 57 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: is safe. And I get that, and that is the 58 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: climate for coaches more than ever. I would say, though 59 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't this is not Doc's fault. I don't think 60 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: that this series loss should be pinned on him because 61 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: of his record in closeout games, which is now seventeen 62 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: and thirty three, because this was his fifth successive loss 63 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: in a Game seven, that talk's going to be there. 64 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: But to me, I'm sorry, this is on the two stars. 65 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: This is not on the coach. The Sixers shot sixteen 66 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: for seventy one from three in Game six and Game 67 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: seven as just putrid shooting. And you know, James Harden, 68 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: we've been talking about the possibility that maybe he goes 69 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: to Houston. You know that's been circulated around the league 70 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: for ages now. But I mean, this add the Sixers 71 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: to that list of teams that grows longer every week 72 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: that the playoffs goes on. Of the you know these 73 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: teams that have major crosswords. I mean, they have major, 74 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: major decisions to make in the offseason, and none of 75 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: them easy. 76 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 3: With all that being said, I don't see Doc coming back. 77 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: I don't I don't see Doc coming back the way 78 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: that the way this thing in it, like I said, 79 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: it was the worst case scenario. Philadelphia had a chance 80 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: to close this out before Game seven, did not let 81 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum get loose in the fourth quarter and in 82 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: this game. Come on, now, come on, now, it's just yes, 83 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: it's not on you know, everything is not on dot, 84 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: but we know how to. 85 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Know you're right. 86 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: And look that third quarter thirty three to ten. 87 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: Come on, come on, unacceptable. 88 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: I think Lom Murray had a stat on Twitter thirty 89 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: three to ten might be the worst fourth quarter ever 90 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: in a game seven in terms of scoring disparity. 91 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see Doc coming back. I do not 92 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: see him coming back. This will be an offseason where 93 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: we have we got a lot of premium coaches out 94 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: in the market. I don't know that there was a 95 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: lot of premium jobs out there in the market, but yeah, 96 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: I think Doc will be added to that list. But 97 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: he's not. You know, what does James Harden do? If 98 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: you look at if you listen to what Joelnbid said 99 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: at his post game address, he made it seem like, oh, 100 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: he didn't talk about James's future too much, but he 101 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: said those two can't do it alone. As if that's 102 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: his guy, that's his that's his partner, as if those 103 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: two are in it for a long haul. I don't 104 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: know that that is the case. So with that being said, 105 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: we all heard about James Harden's desire to go back 106 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: to Houston. I mean, does it change things that that 107 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: there could possibly be a new coach on the horizon. 108 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: Does that change Harden's stance? James Harden was asked about 109 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: his relationship with Doc Rivers after the game, and he said, 110 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: it's okay, that's it. So there's gonna be a lot 111 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of upheaple in 112 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: this offseason. But if we're talking again, whenever you're talking 113 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: about removing a coach or whenever you're talking about replacing 114 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: a key player, the question that comes to my mind is, Okay, 115 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: who's the upgrade? Who is that? Because even even if 116 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: you know I'm talking about prime coaching canvas out there, 117 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: all of them come with some failure, all of them 118 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: come with warts. There's no perfect coach. Is there a 119 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: star coach? I guess you could call Botenholzer or Nick 120 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: Nurse a star, but you know they just got to 121 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: let go for you know, for some reasons. You know, 122 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: there's some things that they they all have. 123 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I would think of the coaches who are 124 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: freshly available, MONI would would probably. 125 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: Be the one. 126 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: MONI would be the out of all them. Mini would 127 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: be probably the awkward. 128 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: I guess there's you know, Manni and Doc are such 129 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: good friends. 130 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: I mean they're really really close friends. 131 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: So but can Monnie work with Darryl? Can they coexist? 132 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: Do they have the same philosophy on basketball? That's that's 133 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: another question. I don't know that friendship will play a 134 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: factor in the mighty taking that job or not. You know, 135 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: mightey don't have anything to do with what what Doc 136 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: is going through. But so there's a lot of questions 137 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: that we just don't know the answers to right now. 138 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: But there's going to be changing to the field, DeFi 139 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: seven six ers, roster, coaching staff, I don't know, maybe 140 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: even some sprinkles in the front office. Oh, we'll see. 141 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this one of the things 142 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm hoping to find out while I'm here in Chicago, 143 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: and I don't know that I'm going to get the answer, 144 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: but I'm you know, the the hardened to Houston stuff. 145 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: It's just been out there now for so long, literally months, 146 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: not weeks. But I'm just so curious that you know, 147 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: what if the Rockets win the lottery, what if the 148 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: Rockets win the right Tuesday Night to draft when Mina 149 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: and do you if you're the Rockets, would you still 150 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: want to go after Harden at that point? But we've 151 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: already can't we hit the sick, We've already passed a six. 152 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: Minute mark on top of number one. 153 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: So we are going to shift less than smoothly to 154 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: our second topic. It is the Phoenix Suns sat you know, 155 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: Thursday night, game six at home, game six, to keep 156 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: their season alive. 157 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: No DeAndre Ay, no Chris Paul. 158 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: They go down by thirty at the half, eighty one 159 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: to fifty one at the half, they lose by twenty 160 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: five total no show, and less than forty eight hours later, 161 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Mani Williams is gone. Now again, you can't be surprised 162 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: anymore because as we've just been talking about, like in 163 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: the climate that we're in now, with this new CBA 164 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: coming in, you know, we it's always been said that 165 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: changing the coach is the easiest change to make. It's 166 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: the easiest way to show the fans and try to 167 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: convince everybody in the organization that we're making a major shakeup. 168 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: But with this new CBA coming that's going to make 169 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: team buildings so much more restrictive and challenging and complicated 170 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: for the foremost spenders in the league. We know the 171 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: Sons are going to revolve around Kevin Durant and Devin 172 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Booker going forward. So you know already they have the 173 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: challenge of do they have to trade Ayton and or 174 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Chris Paul just to restore the depth and ensure they 175 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: have the right mix around their two main guys. But 176 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: now there's this coaching change and man Matt Ishby has 177 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: just come in there, and I think a lot of 178 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: people around the league are looking at this going man, 179 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: this guy pushed so many chips into the into the 180 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: middle of the table to trade for Durant and now 181 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: he you know, ouss Maani Williams so quickly. I mean, 182 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people looking at this, just saying, man, 183 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: this guy is you know, I mean putting his own 184 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: stamp on it, is putting it mildly. 185 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: He's not playing. He's not playing. You definitely see the urgency. 186 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: That's that's one thing you can see, definitely on his 187 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: first day on the job. Where do they go from here? 188 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: What I can tell you is that you know, it's 189 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: no secret the only two untouchable players are DeAndre Ayton 190 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: and excuse me, excuse me, the only two, the only 191 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: two untouchable players, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. Let me 192 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: get that out start. I definitely don't want the aggregators 193 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: to run run with that. But so, but that's not 194 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: to say there's going to be wholesale changes on the roster. 195 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: I know Matt Matt Ishbia has been in contact with 196 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: Chris Paul. I know he's spoken with Devin Booker. You know, 197 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: he's communicating with these guys. He's you know, he's still 198 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: trying to get a pulse on what the best voice 199 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: would look like in coaching this team. And so you know, 200 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: there's definitely gonna be some wholesale changes on the perimeter 201 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: of the roster, on the edges of the roster, and 202 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: somewhat in the middle. It's not one hundred percent sold 203 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: yet that there's going to be movement as it pertains 204 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: the DeAndre Aight and Chris Paul. Those are still conversations 205 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: that have to be had. I would expect those to 206 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: be had this coming week. But the Sons are not 207 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: of the mindset that they have to move DeAndre Aiight 208 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: know Chris Paul. So where do they go from here. Well, 209 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: first you have to find a coach and this is 210 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: this is this, this is more of a trickier situation, 211 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, you know Stein, you know, the grand as 212 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: you report it, the grand prize of coaching for this 213 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: team would be if they can somehow Land Clippers head 214 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 3: coach Tyron Luke. I don't know how fees that is. 215 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to fathom the Clippers allowing TYLERU 216 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: to go to to go in conference, not. 217 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Just in conference, in division. I mean it's yeah, oh yeah, no, 218 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's both. And I tend to agree with you. 219 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's who they would want. But 220 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, you spend a lot more time around these 221 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: teams than me. But but from what I know, Steve 222 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Balmer is a huge Tylo fan. And beyond the fact 223 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: that Steve Balmer is a huge Tylo fan, I mean, 224 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: he's not an owner who gets out bid, and Tyler 225 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: is not even a coaching free agent, so it's unclear 226 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: how the Sons. 227 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: Could get him. 228 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: But I do think, like like you said, he's he 229 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: is at the top of the wish list. 230 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's the top of the wish list. But 231 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: for other teams as well. That's just a tough ass. 232 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: I don't see I don't see Balmer allowing that to happen. 233 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: So let's talk about some other candidates. Mike Butenholzer I reported, 234 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: you know he's on their list. Mike Butenholzer, Nick Nurse, 235 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: and Kevin Young, who is an assistant coach who was 236 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: also I mean it was actually the associate head coach 237 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: under Monty Williams. He's somebody the Sons are looking at. 238 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: He's somebody who is an ally of the players on 239 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: that roster, Chris Paul, Devin Booker, to be exact. There's 240 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: intrigue with him. There's some intrigue with him. He's actually 241 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: going to interview with the Milwaukee Bucks this week, I believe. 242 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: So he's somebody who's caught the eye of some general 243 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: managers across the league. The only question would be, if 244 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: the Sons did make that move, is is he ready? 245 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: Is he ready to handle this? Is he ready to 246 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: handle the trajectory of which the Sons are trying to 247 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: go and easy ready to handle the personalities that come 248 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: with that. There's some people that locker room that believe 249 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: he's up to the task. So that's the triggering. But 250 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, like we connected the dots with Philly, I 251 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: think Mini Williams is a prime candidate, really good. I 252 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: think he should be number one if he's not the 253 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: number one target in Philly. And again, I'm saying this 254 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: as if Doc Rivers is fired already. I'm just that 255 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's the way it's going to go down. 256 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: But in Philly, I don't see that prime candidate yet. 257 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: And there's going to be more prospects coaching prospects added 258 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: to the list of candidates in the interview pool. But 259 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: I just don't see that prime candidate. Do you see 260 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: one for Phoenix? That just makes sense? You say that's it? 261 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: No, not, I mean unless not unless Tyler was suddenly available. Look, 262 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: I mean there's there's excellent coaches out there. Nick Nurse, 263 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: Mike Budenholzer, and Frank Vogel, just to name three I 264 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: have all won championships and are all on the open 265 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: coaching market. So there are plenty of accomplished coaches out there. 266 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: But you know, I guess we're just gonna have to see. 267 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna have to see. You know, why 268 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: does the Tylu stuff keep coming up there is is 269 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: there more to it than just smoke, And definitely before 270 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: we move on to the next topic, we got to 271 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: stay tuned on DeAndre and then Chris Paul because I 272 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: I think they are going to try to trade them both. 273 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: I totally get that it's early in the process. Their 274 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: elimination just happened, but you know, they've got to get 275 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: depth around Durant and Booker, and the easiest way for 276 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: them to do that is to try to trade eight, 277 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: but also Chris Paul because of his contract. I mean 278 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: it's you know, Chris Paul's contract, it's only fifteen point 279 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: eight million guaranteed. If either the Suns or a team 280 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: he is traded to gets off that contract by June 281 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: twenty eighth, you only owe Chris Paul fifteen point eight 282 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: million out of next year's thirty point eight million. So 283 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: that's why we have not discussed the prospect of an 284 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: eight and or CP three trade for the last time. 285 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: But we went long on the Suns. I'm guessing we 286 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: went long on the Sixers, and knowing us we will 287 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: go long on all of these. We're trying to keep 288 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: them to six minutes, trying our hardest not doing a 289 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: great job. 290 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: It's uncut. 291 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 4: We're uncut league uncut. 292 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: Six minutes might equal nine minutes. The Golden State Warriors, 293 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: the defending champions, out nineteen to zero against the West 294 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: in the Steve Kerr Era. Until they come up against 295 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: Lebron James, Anthony Davis and the Los Angeles Lakers. 296 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: The Warriors lose. 297 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: But I have been very resistant to the last dance 298 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: stuff because this is not It's just not the last dance. 299 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: First of all, there's a really strong likelihood that Steph, 300 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: Clay and Draymond are all going to be there when 301 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: camp starts. Bob Myers is the most likely prominent Warrior 302 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: to exit. And look, they have tough decisions to figure out. 303 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Draymond Green has a twenty seven point six 304 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: million player option, Clay only has one year left on 305 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: his deal. 306 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: These guys want new deals. 307 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: The Warriors are certainly going to want them to take 308 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: team friendly contracts to stay, which basically means pay cuts. 309 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: You know, not an easy thing to go to guys 310 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: like Klay Thompson and Draymond Green after everything they've done 311 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: for this franchise and say will you please take a 312 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: lot less money to stay. But that's what the Warriors 313 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: are going to have to do. Those discussions become even 314 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: more complicated if it's not Bob Myers as the point 315 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: man for those negotiations. But as uncomfortable as that could 316 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: all get, I just I cannot see. I mean, Clay 317 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: Thompson to me is going nowhere, absolutely nowhere. And Draymond 318 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: came on this very podcast and spoke for a minute 319 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: after minute after minute, spoke for way longer than six 320 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: minutes about how much he wants to finish his career 321 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: with the Warriors. Reiterated as such at the podium. He 322 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: wants to ride out with the guys he wrote in 323 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: with he said, and I think that is what's going 324 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: to happen. 325 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: I agree as well. I agree as well. I think 326 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: they they're going to give him another run. I don't 327 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: know if this run, I don't know if the run 328 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: means another two year run, three years, one year or whatever, 329 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: but they're going to give him another run. They still 330 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: And look Clay, the way Clay finished his playoffs, it 331 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: just wasn't up to par. He really struggled leave this 332 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: three for nineteen in the last finals, but he really 333 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: struggled in that series. But Clay had a really good 334 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: regular season, led the NBA in three pointers made, you know, 335 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 3: so I can't forget. Let's not act like he's tope. 336 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: He just doesn't have it anymore. Is he the same 337 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: Clay after those multiple injuries. No, he's not. But he 338 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 3: had a really good season, all star level type season, 339 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: so you know he's struggled. He struggled in the playoffs, 340 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: is particularly against the Lakers. So put that out. I 341 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: don't think anything is over yet again, Bob Myers, that's 342 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: the only hiccup that needs to be resolved. I don't, 343 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: and we should stay. 344 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: We should also say Steve Kerr needs an extension as well. 345 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 2: I mean, he's his contract is running near the end, 346 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: so they have a lot of tricky contractual stuff to 347 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: deal with. Beyond the fact that Jordan Poole's new deal, 348 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: which is at minimum one hundred and twenty three million 349 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: over four years, that is only just going to start 350 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: in this next season coming up. So I mean, they 351 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: have a lot of tricky financial stuff to work out. 352 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: But it's just it's just so hard for me to 353 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: imagine Draymond going somewhere else. 354 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: I just can't. 355 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm not I cannot pick. 356 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: I don't see that at all, he said. He what 357 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: was his exact quote, something along the lines of, you know, 358 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 3: he wants to finish out his career with the Warriors. 359 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: He's letting it be known. I don't think. I don't 360 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: think that's gonna change at all. Now we're talking Jordan Poole, 361 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: we're talking Jonathan Cominga, We're talking guys like that. You know, 362 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: that's where that's where things can get tricky. What I 363 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: mean by tricky, I think they're going to uh, I don't. 364 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: I don't see them being back. I don't see them 365 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: being back. I think Steve Kurr wants to rely on 366 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: some veteran guys. I think that's really what hurt him 367 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: this year. He didn't have the veteran guys. He didn't 368 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: Kamiga talent is ooh. I love Cominga. I love his game, 369 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: but I understand the hesitancy in coach Kerr not to 370 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: put him into games of this magnitude. Probably just doesn't 371 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: think he's ready. That might be the case, and that's 372 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: why I think Kaminga, just like they did with Wiseman, 373 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's going to need to flourish on 374 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: a team with no expectation Warriors going to be allowed 375 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: to play through mistakes. He's not going to have the 376 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: opportunity with to go to State Warriors. But with that 377 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 3: being said, the Warriors, I think they can get a 378 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: real nice package back for Kaminga. I think Kaminga is 379 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: that talented in the league. Knows also for Jordan Poole, 380 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: even though his extension is kicking in had a the season, 381 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: didn't you know? The season was derailed a little bit 382 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: by what happened with him and Draymond. But I think 383 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: Pool can go somewhere and flourish and reach his potential. 384 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: So the Warriors have some really good assets that they 385 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: can alload to bring back some veterans that can help 386 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: them win now. So the Warriors are in a good 387 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 3: with all the question marks surrounding the Wars, they're in 388 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: a really good position to put themselves back into contention 389 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: and put themselves back in a situation where they were 390 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: better than this year. Steve Kurse said it after the 391 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: after the lost Game six loss of the Lakers, said 392 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: this was not a championship team. 393 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: Pier, Well, it's interesting that you say that because I 394 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: was talking to a team earlier today and kind of 395 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: that team expressed the same thought that, oh, you know, 396 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: if they decide to move Jordan Poole, they'll be able 397 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: to And man, I guess I just am in the 398 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: other camp of Jordan Poole's season was so rough. I 399 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: don't know how easy it's going to be to find 400 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: a trade partner for him if that's what the Warriors 401 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: decide they need to do, because they want to keep 402 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: the Steph played Draymond trio together and try to put 403 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: depth and veterans around it. I mean, I would certainly would. 404 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: I would certainly rather trade Pool than trade Kuminga. But 405 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting to see how Jordan Poole 406 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: actually is. Okay, we zoomed through our six minutes on 407 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: the Doves as well, So let's move forward to the 408 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals, because I'm pretty sure we're on opposite 409 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: sides of this one. I am going to boldly predict 410 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: that Chris Haynes is boldly predicting the Lakers to win 411 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: these West Finals. I think the Denver Nuggets are the 412 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: favorites in the league at this point. I think they're 413 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: playing the first two rounds has validated that and earned 414 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: them that respect. And this is the rematch of the 415 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals in the bubble, but I think it's going. 416 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: To be a really going to be a very different 417 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: series on this scorecard. 418 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: Am I right in suspecting that you are picking the 419 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 2: Lakers to win the series? 420 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: Okay, now that's this is the question I have. I 421 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: have a question for a question. Why would you assume 422 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: I was picking the Lakers? I agree with you want 423 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: that the Nuggets are favorite in this series. Wow, hold on, 424 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: but why are you assuming that I will pick the 425 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: Lakers over. 426 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: The Leak Because you've been you, to your credit, you 427 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: thought the Lakers could make a playoff run even before 428 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: the playoffs started, and I really did not. 429 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: I was dubious. 430 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: So that is why that is why I assumed it. 431 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: And look, they've won two rounds I have. 432 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I have. You're right, I did see this run. 433 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: But I've also been watching the Nuggets play as well. 434 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm not saying. Look, I'm not gonna 435 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: give a prediction. I really hate predictions. I really do 436 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: you know. We're NBA riders, were national NBA writers comments. Whatever, 437 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: we all we can go off based off all we 438 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: can base our selections are picks on. Is the information 439 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: that we received, the people we talked to, what we 440 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: see being behind the scenes, understanding what's going to happen 441 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 3: in the future, not knowing what's going to happen, but 442 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: having an understanding of what teams are trying to do, 443 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: and then we make our picks from there. But we 444 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, we don't know what's going to happen. 445 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: But so Denver is the favorites. They are the favorites. 446 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: It's going to be a tough task, very tall task 447 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: for liquors going there and win. I don't know who's 448 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: going to win. If I was a betting man, which 449 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: I don't bet, I don't believe in losing my money 450 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: that way. Maybe other ways, but not that way. I'll 451 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: probably go go nuggets. But this is a this is 452 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: going to be a tough one. 453 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: You want to elaborate on other ways you're willing to 454 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: lose your money. 455 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: We have that would have to be an uncut podcast 456 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: in a different lane. I don't know if people want 457 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: to know that Chris Haynes, I know, I don't know 458 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 3: if people are ready for the other lane of Chris Haynes. 459 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: Let's keep Chris Haynes in the NBA lane right now. 460 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look in the bubble, remember in the bubble, 461 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: Like I don't want to diminish what the Lakers did, 462 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: but there was no travel. 463 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 4: There was no travel. 464 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm not missing it's a fact there was no 465 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: travel in the bubble and that helped. And now there's 466 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: not only travel, but they got to go to Denver, 467 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: where the Nuggets have been sensational at home. The Lakers 468 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: are going to have to deal with the altitude. 469 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 3: Now. 470 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: You also have to say, on the flip side, the 471 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: Lakers have been sensational at home in these playoffs. The 472 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Lakers of Los Angeles the first team in twenty nine 473 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: series to deny the Golden State Warriors a road win. 474 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: The Warriors had won a road game in their previous 475 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: twenty eight playoff series in a row, an NBA record, 476 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: and they went zero to three at Staples in these playoffs. 477 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: The Lakers have been great at home. Two and look 478 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: the Lakers, I mean, at least Lebron and Ad they 479 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: can go back and you know, look at how they 480 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: dealt with Jokic and Murray in twenty twenty. But both 481 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: players I think are much better now. Now, Murray, I 482 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: guess you could probably argue that because someone will say 483 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: the Bubbles the best he's ever played, But Jokic for sure. 484 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Jokic had no MVP awards at that point, 485 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: so I think Jokic is a different beast than he 486 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty. And yes, if the Lakers can 487 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: get past Denver on this stage, man, they are going 488 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: to make a lot of people eat some serious crow. 489 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: And I'm looking forward to a Stein. When you think 490 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: about the Joker, look at look at the MVP, Starn, 491 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: look at the MVP. You know, it's always a bad look, 492 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: always a bad look when, even though I know the 493 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: MVP is a regular season award, there's always a bad 494 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: look when the MVP is bounced prematurely in the first 495 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: couple of rounds. And then there are people now that's 496 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 3: saying that it should have been Jokers MVP to begin with, 497 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: and I would say that I believe Joker had the 498 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: better year this year than he had you know, two 499 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: previous MVP seasons he's at so this is only going 500 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: to add fuel to the fire. And I don't know 501 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: if joking, because he doesn't talk to us about these things. 502 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know if Joker is like even more 503 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: fired up that he didn't get the award and he's 504 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: just gonna take it up on the opposition. I don't 505 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: know if that's how he's built. You know, maybe he's 506 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: just internally motivated in the first place, or maybe he does. 507 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know, it's never a good 508 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: look when the MVP has bounced prematurely. 509 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: And that's why it's only gonna make the summer longer 510 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: for Joe El Embiid because Joker is on the stage now. 511 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: Jokers in the conference finals for the second time in 512 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: four years, a stage Philadelphia has not reached. But it's 513 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: really the two years that Joker didn't make it. In 514 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: those four Jamal Murray didn't play. So Jokich is you know, 515 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler to me was MVP of Round one, with 516 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: apologies to Jason Tatum and his fifty one point game 517 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: in Game seven to send Boston on. I think Jokich 518 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: has been the best player in the NBA in Round 519 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: two and it's gonna be a fantastic It's gonna be 520 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: a fantastic contrast this Lakers Nuggets rematch. And again, remember 521 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers. 522 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: They were. They had so. 523 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: Much size in the bubble. Besides Anthony Davis, they had 524 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: Dwight Howard and JaVale McGee. That's a big question mark 525 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: for me with now a D and really no size 526 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: to support him. 527 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: This is where this is where Tristan Thompson. What if 528 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: he's going to play in any series like play Maniful Minutes, 529 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 3: it's going to be this series and Mobama don't have 530 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: to get a shot here. I don't like that at all. Mobamba, 531 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: I know, I don't like that at all. Come on, now, 532 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: I don't like that at all. I think Tristan Thompson 533 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he's the backup center with 534 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: this series. Can't have a D. 535 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: Say we went long on the West Finals, so let's 536 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: move to the East Finals. Our last two topics here 537 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: East Finals, and of course we will close with John Moran, 538 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: but let's let's look at the East so you know, 539 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: Boston survives huge props. They were down three to two, 540 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: I said on the last pod. 541 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 4: And maybe even the previous pod. 542 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: I can't remember now, but I I I thought Philly 543 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: was winning the series when it was three to two. 544 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: I thought the have finally crashed through their second round barrier. 545 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: They're going to finish the Celtics in six. They did 546 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: not Tatum with those fifty one points in Game seven. 547 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: Stephen Curry's fifty points in Game seven of Round one, 548 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: that was the NBA record for game sevens, and look 549 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: what happens. That record doesn't even last one round. It 550 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: now belongs to Jason Tatum, who's fourth quarter in Philly 551 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: saved Boston's season. His Game seven outburst takes Boston into 552 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: the conference finals. But man, Jimmy Butler, Jimmy Butler and 553 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: Eric Spolster are on the other side, and I even 554 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: though the Heat are the eighth seed, I can't pick 555 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: Boston to beat miam Like I just Miami conceptually basketball wise, 556 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: you look at the two rosters. With all the talent 557 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: Boston has and the versatility Boston has, the Celtics should 558 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: win the series. But I can't, Like I said, I 559 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: can't pick against Jimmy Buckets and. 560 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: Spoke and think about this for a minute. I hear you, 561 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: I understand, But I was covering the Miami Heats play 562 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: in path they go from al They lost their first 563 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 3: play in. They were the seventh seed, lost their first 564 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: playing match to the Hawks. Then they had to they 565 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 3: had to win either go home or go to get 566 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: to the A seed. When they beat the Chicago Bulls, 567 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: there was no way in hell that I saw this coming. 568 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: You win your your second playing game, and now you're 569 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: that A seed going up against the Milwaukee Bucks, Janni 570 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: after and now we're at the Eastern Conference Finals, tinn 571 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: and you were taking them over the ten that represented 572 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: the East in the NBA Finals. That's saying an awful lot. 573 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm that big a believer in Jimmy bo That's why 574 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: ever since you showed up on South Beach in your 575 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: white suit, they got it together. 576 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: That's what it was. Well, I would tell you, I 577 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: don't I wouldn't mind showing up on South Beach again. 578 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind doing that, but I would be I 579 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: would be on the Western Conference finals. But you know, 580 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 3: I hear you. And then you think about, look, Tyler 581 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: Hero has been out the entire does. 582 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: He have a shot. 583 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: Do you think he could come back in this series? 584 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: So when I was told when it first happened, I 585 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: reported that the only way he can return is if 586 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: they made it to the NBA Finals. And at that point, 587 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he's out for the season. He's out, 588 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: Like they see, Miami ain't making it to the NBA Finals. 589 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: So I have to I have to check in with 590 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: that to see if if there's any new movement, if 591 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: he's getting better, if there is a possibility he can 592 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: make it back for the conference finals. But yeah, when 593 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: the injury with Down, I was told the NBA Finals 594 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 3: was the was the goal of the timeline. But yeah, 595 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 3: I hear Miami. God, it's tough. Again. I don't like predictions, 596 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's tough to go against Miami, even though 597 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: they're starting off on the road like they have been, 598 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: which I think it's fine. 599 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: I think they like it. I mean that's the thing 600 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: is like, it's more that my confidence in the Celtics 601 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 2: is shaken, even though they survived Game seven, even though 602 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: they came back from three to two, even though they 603 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 2: extended the series when Philly had a chance to close 604 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: it out at home. I just think Philly's own shakiness 605 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: was too much of a boost to the Celtics in here. 606 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to diminish the achievement because again, you know, 607 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: we've never seen anyone score fifty one points in a 608 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: game seven, like Jason Tatum just did. And you know, 609 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: Horford has had great moments throughout these playoffs. Jalen Brown 610 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: and Tatum are a great duo on their day. The 611 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: Celtics have more depth. There's all kinds of things that 612 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason why. You know, Boston was 613 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: initially seen as such a likely favorite after Milwaukee lost 614 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 2: in Round one to those same heaters in five. But again, 615 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: like I said, I just Jimmy Butler. To me, he 616 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: has been since he got to Miami. He has been 617 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: a top ten player in this league. People think he 618 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: only does in the playoffs, the whole playoff Jimmy thing. 619 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean to look at his Look at the numbers 620 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: he put up in the regular season. This is going 621 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: to be the second time in his career. This is 622 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: he did make it. This was already because we know 623 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: the All NBA teams. Now second time in his career 624 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: he got snubbed from the All Star Game and ended 625 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 2: up being an All NBA player because the end of 626 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: the season writers realize that the coach is messed up 627 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: by not having him in the All String. I mean 628 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: he is and he's playing as well as he ever has, 629 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 2: even though he's got his own ankle issues. Like Boston 630 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: can win the series, all I'm saying is I'm just 631 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: not ready to pick them. You know, I am not 632 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: ready to proclaim that they're gonna beat Miami. I just 633 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: I think the Heat are just as tough and out 634 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: as There. 635 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: Is no argument there. I think for Boston, they will 636 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: say they got some momentum now. Jason Tatum carried them, 637 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: has propelled them to this stage. They have a blueprint. 638 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: They've been here before, so they're trying to rely on experience. 639 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 3: It's recent experience, but they're trying to rely on that 640 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: to try to get them back to the NBA Finals, 641 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 3: which you know, I don't know, Like I'm trying to think, 642 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: what is Celtics the favorites against the Warriors going into 643 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: the finals last year. I don't know. But it's still 644 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 3: up for grabs. Even though I believe Denver pound for pound, 645 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 3: probably has the best team, has been playing the best 646 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: all in the postseason, they still could be beat. They 647 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: still could be beat. So it's it's it's it's a 648 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: good it's a good situation where we're having parody. We're 649 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: seeing Peri we don't know what's going to happen. You 650 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 3: didn't think the Lakers going to beat the Golden State Wars. 651 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 3: I felt like they had a great chance, and we 652 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: saw the Kings push to the Wars to game seven. 653 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: You know what Miami has been doing, you know the Knicks. 654 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's been it's been really good. It's 655 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: been really good playoff games to watch. 656 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: And just to be clear before we move on to 657 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: our final topic, So you said you're doing your West 658 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: all the way in this round. 659 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: I am West all the way in this round. I 660 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: will be reporting for tn T, so you'll see my 661 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: appearances on Inside the NBA, on the pre or post 662 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: game shows. The Eastern the Eastern Conference Finals is going 663 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 3: to be with tn T and Ali LaForce. She'll be 664 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: over there doing the sideline, so I'll be on. 665 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 2: The west sidebar question, how much does the altitude in 666 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: Denver mess with the Chris Haynes pregame routine? 667 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 4: Do you feel it when you're there? 668 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I just make sure not to be talking on 669 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 3: the phone as I'm walking up the stairs anywhere, because 670 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: that's when you can lose your breath. That's when I 671 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: can feel the shortness of breath when I'm walking, walking 672 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: up the steps, walking stairs. So you know, I'm not 673 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 3: gonna be on the phone because I don't want. You know, 674 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 3: I could be on the phone with an important source 675 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: and they may be expecting me to have a comment 676 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: at that time, and you know, I just can't talk 677 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: because my breath is short, and they just hang up 678 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 3: on me at a at a crucial point, I can't 679 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 3: have that. So that's the only time I really feel 680 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: it anything different. I don't really I don't really work out. 681 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 3: I haven't really worked out in Denver, so I don't 682 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: think I'll be doing that. So no, it won't affect me. 683 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: You won't be able to tell during my tn T 684 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 3: hit that the altitude is getting to me. 685 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 2: All right, we moved to the last topic. Man, this 686 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: is just so dispiriting. Just I can't even believe that 687 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: we're here again. It emerges Sunday morning that there is 688 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: a new video in which John Morant of the Memphis 689 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: Grizzlies appears to be brandishing a handgun. The League is 690 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: going to investigate it, but the Grizzlies almost immediately suspended 691 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: him from all team activities. I mean that we are 692 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: here again. I don't even know if I have the 693 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: words to describe the shock. 694 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 3: I had the word and this was I report, you know, 695 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: I reported, I report, I report. People Go follow my 696 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 3: Instagram and go follow Stein's Instagram as well. My instagram 697 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: is at chris By. 698 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 4: My instagram is useless. You don't need to follow my Instagram. 699 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 4: I don't even post on there. 700 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 2: My son, by the way, my son, by the way, 701 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 2: keeps me very posted on your Instagram activity since I. 702 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 3: Yes, lots of haircut material. But Tissha Pinero, you remember her, 703 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 3: the great point guard that played for the Sacrament of 704 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: Monarchs the w n b A. So I posted a 705 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: picture with the details of John Morant in my on 706 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 3: my Instagram account and in the comments she commented, and 707 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 3: this speaker when we talked about where the where are 708 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 3: the words for this, she commented, this day ja vu 709 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: you get to start sin that that that hits it. 710 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 3: That that's right there. Stein. I've had so many comments, 711 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: I mean, excuse me, so many d ms hit to me. 712 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 3: Why are you reporting this now? This was two months ago? 713 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 3: Why you report this now? This is old? That's just 714 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: that's you media people just always bringing up old stuff, 715 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 3: bringing up old stuff. Some of them I let it go, 716 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 3: but a few that I actually do interact with from 717 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: time to time, I was like, no, this one happened, 718 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: is we ken? This is a new one. 719 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 4: No, it's it's. 720 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 3: This is it. It's a bad it's a bad look. 721 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 3: I even think, you know, it's a bad look for 722 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: the league. 723 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: No, And that's that's that's what I think most. That's 724 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: what was such a common reaction after this story hit, 725 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,959 Speaker 2: that this is this is not just a Grizzlies crisis. Now, 726 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: this is a league crisis. This this is something that 727 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: impacts all thirty teams. And you know, the league was 728 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 2: very lenient the first time, only issuing an eight game 729 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: suspension to John Morant, and it was really only a 730 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 2: two game suspension because they counted six of the games 731 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 2: when he was away from the team on his own. 732 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 2: And this happened in the wee hour, you know, either 733 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 2: late Saturday or early Sunday, just on Wednesday, just a 734 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: few days ago. It was Wednesday that the All NBA 735 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: teams were announced, and it was Wednesday that John Morant 736 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,959 Speaker 2: got confirmation that he did not make the All NBA team, 737 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: which essentially cost him forty million dollars his MAX deal 738 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 2: that he signed last summer and kicks in next season, 739 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: instead of rising to two hundred and thirty three million 740 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: as it should have based on his play on the court. 741 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: In his production, he was clearly headed for an All 742 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: NBA berth until the March incident in Denver. So just Wednesday, 743 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 2: he finds out that what happened the first time cost 744 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: him nearly forty million, and that didn't stop it this time. 745 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 4: Stunning. 746 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 3: Let's let's walk. Let's let's break down a little bit 747 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 3: what happened in this video, just a little bit for 748 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: those who haven't seen it. I don't know why you 749 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 3: haven't seen it, but for those who haven't seen it, 750 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 3: He's in the car with some friends and it looks 751 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: like the guy that's driving is going is goes on 752 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 3: IG live and nothing against that. Nothing with guys going 753 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 3: on ig live. Music is playing in the background. They're 754 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 3: feeling themselves and John Morant is in the passion seat 755 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 3: and so you know, they show Jahn Morant. Everybody's grooving, 756 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: everybody's feeling himself. The music. I don't know what song 757 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: was being played, but during this time, John Morant appears 758 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 3: allegedly flashes a gun and to his I've seen people 759 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 3: like go at his potnam and I and I can 760 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 3: understand going out his partner for for other reasons aside 761 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 3: from this scenario right here. He didn't know Joe was 762 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 3: gonna flash that gun. So me, when Joe flashes it, 763 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 3: he drops the phone, drops the phone to his knees, 764 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 3: you know, look like you know, Job puss it, push 765 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 3: the push the gun down. Then he he comes back 766 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 3: on the live and they finished what they were doing. 767 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 3: And I see people saying, man, why he put Joah 768 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: in that situation? Well, you know he didn't like he 769 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 3: told John to pull it out. You know, so we 770 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta stop blaming others in and you know, 771 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 3: others do have a part to play for sure. That's 772 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 3: that's another conversation we can have about the responsibility of 773 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 3: those who are around you. But at the end of 774 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 3: the day, he didn't make Job do what he did, 775 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 3: and he surely didn't expect him to do what he 776 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 3: did at that point. So now we find ourselves to 777 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 3: brown zero. What does the NBA do now? Because Jah, 778 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 3: the NBA was criticized when a Jah levy that penalty 779 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: that they did before. Now what now he's making Now 780 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 3: it appears the NBA has to come on a little 781 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 3: bit stronger and they're gonna say they're starting their investigation, 782 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 3: and so we'll see what happens from there. 783 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all eyes on the league now, because let's face it, 784 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: in the Adam Silver era, the reputation is that sanctions 785 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 2: will be on the forgiving side, and the criticism that 786 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: the league will get if it happens in this case 787 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 2: will be incredibly, incredibly loud. All right, we I think 788 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: again we I don't know that we did any of 789 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: them in six minutes, but I think we did a 790 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 2: pretty good job of getting to six major headlines in 791 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: this league. Of course, there are many more, because that's 792 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: the kind of May it's been. And it's only going 793 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: to get newsier because Tuesday night NBA Draft Lottery. It 794 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: appears that I am going to be a witness to 795 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: the actual events in the drawing room for the first 796 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 2: time ever, a first for me. So that is going 797 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 2: to be a fascinating experience to actually see who wins 798 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: the lottery and then be behind those closed doors for 799 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: sixty to ninety minutes, however long it is when the 800 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: actual show takes place and no phones, and. 801 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 4: Then the world finds out. 802 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: And it'll be two in the morning Paris time when 803 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: the lottery starts, and Victor Wembin Yama's Metropolitans ninety two 804 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 2: team has a game Tuesday in Paris, and so he'll 805 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: he will not be in Chicago. He'll be in Paris 806 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 2: watching in the middle of the night to find out 807 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 2: who he lands with. Houston, San Antonio, Detroit all three 808 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 2: teams with the best shot at winning the lottery, but 809 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: only a fourteen percent shot here in the era of 810 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: Flatten lottery odds. So I'm in Chicago. Chris is on 811 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: his way to Nuggets Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. 812 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: He and I will connect again soon for in the 813 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 2: next pod, we will discuss who won the Victor when 814 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 2: Benyama sweepstakes, the Brick for Vic Sweepstakes. We will discuss 815 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 2: the early happenings in each of the conference finals, and 816 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: of course, the way things are going, we will probably 817 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 2: have more spins on the coaching carousel that we're going 818 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 2: to have to dive into and the other thing that 819 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 2: we're doing out here in Chicago. This is where the 820 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 2: free agency and trade discussion starts. 821 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: To take shape. 822 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: So lots of stuff going on in this league. Thank 823 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 2: you guys so much for being with Chris and I 824 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 2: for another edition of This League Uncut. 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