WEBVTT - Episode 181 w/ Angie Martinez 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.880 And it's drinks, motherfucking podcast. Mason, he's a legendary Queen's rapper. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.880 He's like, that's your boy in R. He's a Miami 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.560 hippop pioneer. Up is d j e FN. Together they 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.320 drink it up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.960 the most professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sorts 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.280 for drunk fat drinks mother, every day is New year' z. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:45.280 That's it's time for drink Champ. Drink up mother, Mother. Hey, 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.400 Hank San Green, hope you sat via, it's your boy 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.040 in R. What up is d j e FN And 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:58.160 this is Drake Champs, motherfucker? Yeah yeah, right now. When 0:00:58.160 --> 0:00:59.840 we started this show, we said we wanted to end 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.480 it you legends, and right now this person in front 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.760 of us is not only a media legend, she is 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.039 a radio legends. She is a hip hop historian. She's 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.560 probably one of the only people who've got to interview 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.479 Biggie Smalls, Tupac Nas and Jason. She got the Floyd 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:26.120 may Rather of radio contracts. She she uh was raised 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.400 out in Brooken, but lived out in Queens, loved out Quezer, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.640 was raised out in Brooke. At one point. She has 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.119 constantly stayed on top. If you will need to get hot, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:36.720 you need to get your point. Of course, you gotta 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.280 come see her or you're nobody. You're to come under 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.760 the table. If you don't, if you don't, gotta Anti 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:49.560 Martinez Classic interview, you're the gume under the table. No 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.960 one really likes you. I just want to do that 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:54.800 out there. If you don't know what I'm talking about, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:02:03.880 your mother wanted only to that. Now. Now, you were 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.960 predestined to be who you are. Your mother worked in radio. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.760 So that's what I'm so happy to be here. By 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:23.840 the way, I have some criticisms. Early criticism is what 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.160 I've been trying not to host it. I would like 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.520 to jot from my Dominican friends. Trying to take your 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:36.000 drink to the bathroom. It was it was happening. We 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.040 were not wrong at that moment. And then I went 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:39.680 to use direction. I can tell you don't have that 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:46.480 many girls here. It was up. You left the toilet 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.359 seat up. There was no like paper tie was to clean. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.520 It was like it was a guy's bathroom. You know 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.320 what I noticed about, Like guys and girls use the 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.840 same bathroom, but the girls you guys won't let your 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.400 y'all just piss on the toilet. You want to let 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.919 that ship touch you all, just right out these things. Yeah, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.400 you're perfect squatters. I'm gonna get you like but I'm 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.799 gonna I'm gonna add to the drink champs. Okay, get 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:13.520 you a candle and some hand to hand. We only 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.320 had we only had four girls on drink Chaps. We 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.000 had amberos. This is the third solo angela Ye. This 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.080 is a third third song. Then you came because um 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.600 angela Ye came would envy within me and then I 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.440 tried to want to let me because we want to think. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.360 We wanted. We want to get you because you're important. 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.920 So let's gonna let you be. Okay, you really do 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.640 have a whole and you drink that's all because you 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.280 don't even have an just for the drink, Mr Granade, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:55.040 I was drinking whole line you might appreciate. Okay, So 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.440 so moms is working at radio, so you you get 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:02.160 the urge from that. No, I'm a baby, I'm you know. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.360 My mother was like, I come from one of those 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.680 families where you know your mom's was trying to get 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.200 out of certain situations. So my whole family lived uptown. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.160 They lived in Washington Heights. My mother took me just 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.560 to Puerto Ricans and your mom's Cuban to right. My 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:30.120 mother is Cuban. Puerto Rican and Dominican uptown. So where 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.400 my family's uptown from Whington, Washington Heights and would Washington 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.920 Heights right, So if you know anything about New York 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.559 and from New York, you know that my mother took 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.920 me the first. My whole family is up there. Tool said, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.440 the stop is like two D the same and whatever, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.760 we have to take the train. She moved us to Brooklyn, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.000 but not just Brooklyn like the last stop on the train, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.720 like by Coney Island, but the Warriors where they ended up. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.120 That's where we were. So me and my mother moved 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.680 to Brooklyn and my whole family, the rest of my 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.760 family was because my mother was trying to find a way, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.599 you know what I mean. So she got a job. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.599 Um first that PolyGram record. She was like a reception 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.719 intern receptionist there, and then she worked away to radio 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.240 and she she was never on the air. She was 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.920 like you know, she worked off behind the scenes. Yeah, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.080 but I grew up hearing conversations about radio. I always 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.640 saw that story. My mother was like I remember her 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.599 talking about radio jocks, like people on the air, and 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.679 she was complaining about somebody that he loved the sound 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.200 of his own voice, and she was saying she hated 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.679 people who just loved the sound of their own voice, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.680 like they just want to talk, to be talking. And 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.320 I always remember that even later, like when I would 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.200 be on the air, like to make sure that I'm 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.920 not just talking for myself, you know what I'm saying, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.680 to make sure that I'm like, yeah, it was real, 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.480 stay with me. So I grew up in that type 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.560 of environment. I got the book from that. And then 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.159 when I was sixteen, she was coming up in her career. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.680 She had been a music director. She got me an 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.440 internship at the radio station, and then I got an 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.520 internship at hot I was eighteen, and then I just 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.680 grew up there. That was like where I grew up 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.039 at the Rags. Let me stop you there, because let 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.560 me just let me just tell you something. Now, this 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:11.400 is completely not rehearsed. Who's your top five top mcs 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.640 of all times? Is such a random just just say 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.080 like rock, game, nas ice, cute, big, big punk? Does it? 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.039 Does it scare you that like almost everybody's top five. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.240 You probably interviewed, Does it scare me? No, I think 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:31.680 that's amazing. I think it's amazing too. But literally, like 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.279 when I said that just now, like giving your intro, 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:39.600 and I thought about it, like People's Top five, jay 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.440 Z is in People's Top five, Nass and People Top five, 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.000 Bigg's and people Top five Tupart and you literally yeah, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.320 you literally, yeah, that's amazing. I'm super grateful. Just hit 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.440 me just now when I said that, it's not changing 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.680 because you're still in the business. That's what That's probably 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.760 what I'm more proud of is that I could sit 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.919 down across from us generation somebody. Now, last week I 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.440 did like blue Face and I saw that, and you know, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.159 I had a really big interview with Takashi before he 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.000 went away for you asked him if you know how 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.600 to wrap it? He said no, he admitted, But I 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.960 really enjoyed that interview. But that's probably what I'm most 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.720 proud of is that, yes, I had those like classic moments, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.160 and I was lucky enough to come up at a 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.200 time when Jamie started his career. You know, Nahas was 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.400 around in Wu Tang I probably you know all those 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.960 all those artists were coming up while I was coming up. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.000 Let me ask you a question what I thought was 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.560 very interesting one time, Elliot, I'm still proud of your 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:41.720 Yes'm I'm trying. I'm trying to get down so one time, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.160 you know when I started to want to do this 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:50.200 is not terrible, No, that's it is good, that the 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:57.400 entire line. So I remember reading Elliott Wilson one day 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.120 and he said that he had to come to the 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.840 realization that, you know, he didn't want to be friends 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.440 with these artists because he didn't want that's a lot. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.160 It's friends with Matt No. No, I know that now, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.120 but this is back in the day where he had 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.640 to realize that he was not only a fan of whole, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.920 but then he was also a friend. So he had 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.920 to like to do that. And then you ever have 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.640 to like Charlemagne and I have that conversation because Charlemagne 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.440 came up under Wendy, Yes, And Wendy was always like, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.560 you can't be friends with the artists. You have to 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.640 be and I was always like, it's not about what 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.959 your friends like. I'm not anti artist or anti listener 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.800 or anti fan like I'm pro culture, pro the culture right. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.680 So I never subscribed to that, Like we're all people, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.000 we're all trying to do right by the culture. So 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.320 I never really got that theory of like you can't 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.240 be friends yet you can be friends, doesn't mean you 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:48.960 can't tell your friend I was white, what you did, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.240 or or how are we gonna move past that? You 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.520 want my best right? So I never really subscribed to 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.240 you can't be friends with That's probably the problem. Not 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.400 everybody is for the culture pro culture there are thinking 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:01.880 in a different way. They're trying to get got you 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.400 questions and being journalists and that kind of way. I know. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.640 Unfortunately that's the time way in now you trying to 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:11.480 do that with me right now, I'm just kidding. We 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:17.400 we way. You gave me a big to tell you too. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.920 You know, you know what we did. What we did 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.240 was we wanted to um. You know, so many times 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:24.840 you get ten years in this game, they kick you 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.959 right out of here, they call you washed up, they 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.120 say you whatever, whatever. And I wanted to um. We 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.680 we wanted to give a platform the people that got 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.400 these ten years. And and it's Asian like wine, you 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.079 know what I'm saying, Because you have ten years, it 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:39.719 doesn't mean you're washed up. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.959 This is Vince Carter is going on. It's like twenty 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.360 third season, you know what I'm saying. And I'm just saying, like, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.080 so were was the platform for us in the hip hop. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:49.719 So this is what we want to do. We want 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.280 to give people their flowers. Like you know, John Singleton 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.679 had just passed away, and I actually had footage of us, 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.200 you know, saying to him, you know, we love you, brother, 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.280 you know everything you did was great. So we want 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:00.880 to do the same thing for you as we want 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.920 to let you know how dope you are, how you 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.760 had one of the most craziest interviews because I remember, Um, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.440 I remember New York kind of felt bad, like felt 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.200 not bad, um felt confused because at one point when 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.640 Park and Big was going through it, like when Pop 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.880 said a certain thing, it was like it was on. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.360 And then did you actually fly to Cali to get 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.880 the two part interview? Oh yeah, definitely. Was that the 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.800 Bay area or that was actually it was his house. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.040 It was that went to his apartment and shot it 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.480 and we didn't shoot it was people always think I 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.480 have this pocket videos just we took a couple of pictures, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.840 but it's just audio. It was like me by myself 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.200 with like a little machine like this big and a 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.840 microphone like yourself. Yeah, excuse me, like in a room 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.120 with probably more people than this. I never traveled to 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.760 the West Coast. I'm twenty something years old. It's my 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:52.840 first big interview, you know. He says at the beginning 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.480 of the interview, he says, we gotta be wealthy. Hip 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.640 hop got to be wealthy. Got no more like no 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.280 more performing in coffee shops, Like we need money because 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.960 we need to change these goods. Like he had great ideas, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.200 like We're not gonna listen, you know, I'm trying to 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.280 do probably be a good interview. So I go on 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.640 and listen to it, and he's what he said was 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.000 like what Nipsey was doing. That's kind of like like 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:22.000 it was, well, those are seeds of anything. That's a 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.520 great point. You know. I never got to interview. You 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.360 never got to interview. We did on the phone. We 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.280 did this brief interview on the phone, and I'm I'm 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.920 glad I had that because I at least told him 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.160 that I thought he was dope and his energy was 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.360 so great, you know, we had a brief thing and 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:37.679 we showed each other in a lot of love, and 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.240 then I would cross his path because he was with 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.080 rock Nation, some rock Nation, a bunch of stuff. But 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.480 it's just one of those moments where you take, you know, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.679 just you take that for granted. Like I was always like, oh, 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.280 we're gonna and I knew it was going to be dope, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.520 Like I knew when we said it was gonna be dope, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.240 but I didn't push, you know. I regret that my mother, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.920 my mother asked me. She said, UM, sorry, I made 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.080 this impression of my mother, but I do it. Let's 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.520 hear it, baby. Um a favor said, okay, mom, what 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.600 you want? Said? I want to meet somebody? So I'm 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.480 figuring that my mom's want to meet Michael Jackson. I like, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.040 she want to meet fucking you know, Lina Richie. So 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.800 I'm like, who do you want to meet? She's like, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.200 big pun. I'm like, that's my best friend. Don't worry 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.319 about it. You'll get to meet them. And I pulled 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:28.280 it off for almost years and he died and he's 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.360 going to be around forever. If nothing else that we 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.520 learned from moments like that, it's like to take what 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.440 I love what I loved it that I see happening 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.600 now since Nipsey passed, especially, I see people showing each 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:42.599 other lout. Yeah, I see other rappers saying other rappers 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.360 that speech. I thought it that was dope. It like 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.880 we always do what said, you know, let's show people 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:56.920 their flowers while they when we started that, Okay, that's good, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.240 that's good as the time I'm good and it's okay, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.560 you can take you get to whatever. But he's also big. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.440 I think Schoolboy Que had done an he and he 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.560 biged up Drake and saying Drake should be people should 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.480 give Drake legendary status already at this point, and so 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.160 I guess he said all these nice things about Drake, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.079 and then Drake took the moment during his speech at 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.960 this big Awards to say thank you. You know, like 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.280 what was dope is that he actually was honest and 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.679 said that he second guest if he should reach out 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.880 to Schoolboy Q and thank him, and then he's like no, no, no, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.320 and he just well, good looking Drake is you also 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.200 shout out a left frack city and all these little 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.560 girls and boys are you know, are excited because you 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.280 know his trainer is Hollywood. He knows he's from Left 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.319 Rack and he he did that. We'll play the clip 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.439 you know has hopefully you got that so big that 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.880 up man? You know? Do you think the reason why 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.199 they don't give Drake his props is because of the 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.880 ghost writing thing? If we're being honest, I feel like 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.520 every rapper like you collaborate with people. You got people 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.839 around you in the studio. I mean even I hear 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.560 stories about Big being in the studio and Little Seeds 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.240 would say a joke and Big will turn it into 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:03.000 a song. Done that everything. Yeah, and we literally took that. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.960 I mean, I don't know to what level. But you 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:10.120 can't front that drinks, I mean what Like I just 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.079 feel like, and I know there's people that are purists 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.160 that like you got write every mar you guys, but 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.880 I think people use it as it's an excuse because 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.000 I think people for some reason just don't want to 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.600 give it up to the dude. I think maybe because 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:29.680 he's too nice, or he's too I don't know what successful, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.400 you know, just like wait, wait, he's what he's too 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:45.920 light skinned when he wears too many sweaters, you think, 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.360 so I'm not sure. I don't know what is it? 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.400 You can't front out of him, like what I can't. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.240 But I think that's a success side of it, that 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.000 that draws out attention. He's a nice he's a nice 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.600 guy man, and he cares about the culture. You can 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.080 what don't you you have a problem with you have 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:05.280 something I don't know. I don't know produces. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.560 I just got it all wrong. Yeah, you asked me 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.600 that in your enneverybody ever does. I'm the one. I'm 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.800 the one. I don't know. The thing about it is, it's, um, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.840 I know he would never do drink champs. And because 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.320 because that irritates you, I'm not irritated at all, because 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.560 it's like, um, certain people. I want to control the environment, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.280 and I like we almost turned down Will Smith. Like 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.200 he didn't. It's not like Will Smith said yeah, but 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.000 Will it was like, yeah, we can't do the smoking thing. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.920 And the thing about it is, I want to control 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.720 my environment. I learned that from Leo Colm's right, Leo 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.960 comes back in the days Wait, Will Smith said he 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.280 want to do do the show if he's I don't know, 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.760 one of the one of the people. Will Smith's people's 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.760 Before we got to Worlds like, yo, you know he'll 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.840 do it, but just you can't smoke. And the thing 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.200 about it is, while you come and we're not smoke, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.560 we don't want you to give us those rules. You 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.040 know what I'm saying, because it's actually my show and 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.080 this is our show. Excuse me, and you know what 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:58.600 I say. Minds, I say us, but you know what 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.760 I mean. But you know what I'm trying to say, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.000 like I don't want I don't want the essence of 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.920 this to go away. This is this is praising hip hop. Now, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.480 don't get me wrong. Will we take a Will Smith 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.520 for interview? Of course we did it with Luke, but 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.080 Luke didn't tell us not to smoke. Luke was like, yo, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:18.280 you know you know Luke Luke Scott woke up. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.360 so and we didn't want you to smoke. Really yeah, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.640 because he has he children, he's doing political stuff thinking 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.560 he was running for Maya and got a lot of 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:32.280 nerves drink drink with us drinking. He didn't want the weed. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.320 Who knows that the thing was he told us that, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.160 you know, you know, so you know, we just want 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.520 to keep this to the to the to the essence, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.200 because that's the reason why we don't interview new guys right, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.120 So the way, So if Drake, let's go back, like 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:58.240 how you taking over? I go take Drake. Not doing 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.840 drink Champs makes you feel away? No it doesn't. To 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.400 take the truth. No, no, let me tell you what happened. Um, 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.760 here's exactly what happened. I was on my squashed beef run. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.159 You had to be for him before you know. I 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.960 was on my squash beef one meaning fat Joe have 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.240 reached out to me because I just spoke to Jay 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.600 z all some ship and you know I spoke about it, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.800 so Joe knew. Joe is a close friend of mine. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.960 So Joe calls me squashed the beef with um, well, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.000 I put him in the right direction. I sent him 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.240 to listen, just hit bleak will make it happen. So 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.960 bleak Joe calls bleak whatever all the way up happens 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:40.000 Joe more rotten nations. So I want my right. So 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.680 you're fairy con and like actually works. I'm like, I'm 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.879 like Joe calls, He's like, Yo, it's actually gonna do 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.399 the first Joe calls his own corner sides. So what 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.320 happens is what happens is over your forty, who is 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.960 um Drink's producer over forty. Me and him been cool 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.840 since he did an article on the Vibe magazine and 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.720 they said who's his favorite artist? And he says, nor, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.560 I like, what the funk out of here? Like you 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.040 know what I mean? If that's weird to me? So 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:12.760 me and him starting a relationship, and you know, we 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.040 just didn't drink chance with DMX, so he's no one 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.119 can get any contact with dm Mexican cant too. So 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.679 Obio forty calls me and says, yo, we know that 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.399 DMX hates us because remember dmxic the Breakface Club interview 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.480 was like I hate drink, I hate I hate these 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.680 light skin, I hate his haircut. I hated saying that right, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:37.520 so so so so OI all reached out to me 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.639 and he's like, yo, you know, we don't think he 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.479 likes us, but we know that you're cool them. Can 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.399 you can we maybe squashing? So I reach out to the 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.800 the DMX and I'm like, yo, you're not gonna, you know, 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.879 like get them the phone crazy He's like, so I 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.000 hug up the call again. I just hook it up 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.520 and I get out of it. So that's where all is. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.160 So people might think that Drake owes me a favor 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.480 for that. I don't. But then I heard through the 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.280 grape vine one of his people say, yo, you know 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:11.520 he loves he loves drink chess problem. He said, I 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.800 love drink Chaps. But I said, yo's he'll never do it, 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.480 And I said why He said, it has to be 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.920 an environment that is controlled, and that I understand. You 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.320 know what I'm saying, because, like I said, that's my 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.560 real smith is because because all right, the thing is, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.000 I gotta be in control like I don't want. But 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:29.840 he got to be in control too. That's that's the 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.399 reason why it probably won't ever happen. Like we almost 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.560 did an interview, right, I hope he doesn't mind me 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.919 sharing the story, but well he won't mind because he's 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.119 a fan of drinking. So when anything we said here 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.080 is okay, hopefully no. But he wi almost did an interview. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.720 I had reached out to him when that whole pushing 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.119 thing was happening. For me, I have a real problem 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:55.480 with people. It becomes like this when everybody's just on 0:19:55.760 --> 0:20:00.000 somebody like it. I don't like when people gang up 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.240 one like it really bothers me. I don't know. It's 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.520 like you don't like Badwagon, I don't like. But it's 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.480 also like I'm trying to think of the words. It's 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.120 not bullying. It's not bullying because everybody they all grown, 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.639 everybody's a grown man. But it's like angry mob. And 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.720 then once an angry mob happens and the swelling happens, 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.360 it's almost like uncool to say if everybody's owing somebody 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.920 and then somebody else goes. I really like that, like 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.240 bullies them. Did you feel like that about Takashi? Like 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.879 was that the same viby? What do you mean about 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.240 everybody talking about takash? Thing was different? We could get 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.439 back to that. But when the pushing and Drake thing happened, 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.840 I just felt like, yeah, I'm trying to see your 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:44.960 anger because I didn't see I'm not seeing weird. Like no, 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:46.919 I'm not saying picture was the bully. I'm saying the 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:51.840 internet the tone like everybody's like, all of a sudden, 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.119 everybody gotta hate Drake just because pushing and so I 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.879 had reached out to him, like you know, you know, 0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:59.840 I'm wishing you well, I want you to get past this, 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.399 this too, shall pass, because it is we've seen this, 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.800 We've seen the low low, and people come out with 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.000 a here record and people forget. So even though it 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.240 feels like the whole world is against you this week, 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.920 next week, you're probably gonna be fine. Like you're so talented, 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.199 this is gonna pass. It doesn't not the words. I 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.080 just sent him a nice message and he hit me 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.320 right back and was like, thank you so much, you 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.600 know whatever, and then we mentioned we talked about maybe 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:26.439 during an interview about it at that time, UM, and 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.120 it didn't happen, and it didn't need to happen because 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:29.600 you put an album out and he was back on top, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:36.920 and everybody's all, Drake, we love drink Kei Ki you 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.920 love me, and we forgot about and his baby we 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.600 got I don't even remember the point of the story. 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.439 The point of the story is that we almost had that, 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:51.880 and then the time passed and I didn't even reach 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.120 out because I understand that he didn't. He doesn't get 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.840 anything from talking. He's ready back on top, the music, tanging, 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.879 the music, speaking for himself. Because I always think about this, right, 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:04.600 it's not just about me and my radio show. Woul 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.680 getting my interview. It's also like what's best for Drake. 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.480 It's probably not best for him to talk right now. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.480 So I'm not gonna push it and be like you 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.119 said you wanted to. I'm like, actually, he's kind of 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.959 good right now, Like why would he All he has 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.560 to do is it's lose, Like he's not gonna gain 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.000 anything about over talking in a moment where he's back 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.960 on a he's getting the graces of everybody back, you 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.280 know what I'm saying. So I think, why would he 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:29.920 do drink champs right now? I don't think so. I 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:37.120 wouldn't if I was Drake. But I also think let 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:41.080 a little time pass. But it's fun because it's like 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.520 he's got nothing to win or lose, you know, you know, 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.440 you know what, I think it would be funny, Like 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.720 like I think that him and meet together, You're gonna 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.680 ask him about push. You gotta ask him about it. 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.320 You don't want to talk as Birdman. Burtman sat in 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.800 the same exact seat that you was. That I asked 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:57.679 him everything. I asked him in the polite way, in 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.760 the way that is niggerish, so he felt doble and 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.000 and I'll do the same exact thing. The thing is, 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.800 I'm when you were too my world. You know what 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.280 I'm saying. I feel like um and we respect the 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.800 Dodge and we respected like yeah yeah, like yeah, like this, 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.680 like I know this sort of rappers that won't come 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.439 to me because I'm like the FBI, like I already 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.200 know the question that I'm askings never come back, like 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:27.840 I'm never doing it. By the way, that's the first 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:29.960 thing that fact Joe said. But I was telling that today. 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.920 I said when we um I saw speaking about fIF TV, 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:37.439 he was like, oh, no, I'm never coming back. But 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.000 it is so peaceful here pleasant here. No, but um 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:47.679 the baby ye but okay, No, No, I got switching 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.600 it up. I was switching it up. It was because 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.760 we were talking about battling and we were talking about 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.439 draking to push your teeth. You also had a crazy 0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:01.320 moment when after Ether came out, Jay came out with 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:09.280 this record superbly, and then Jay actually apologized on your 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.240 show And did you see that coming? Because no, I 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.520 never see that coming, right, So what does what does 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.199 he do? He calls you and says he's coming up 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.720 because it was through the phone. No, first of all, 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:21.320 I think Jay got the bad end of that deal, 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.320 because it really should have been takeover versus either. Those 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.240 were the two of their better records. We took my 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:27.960 Battle of the Beats. It was the battle we did 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.639 on hold, on, Hold, on hold on the days I 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.479 got described this to the fast Okay at this point, 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.480 don't hit them the table, Okay. So it's the podcast 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.560 was totally different from from when he was over there. 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.400 But listen, Battle of the Beats meant so much like 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.320 you literally if he was on the Battle of the Beach, 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.200 you literally went outside in your hood and told everyone, 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.920 call is fucking number and vote for me. Crazy. That 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.880 gets the battle to beat if you want, you will 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:05.200 proceed to the next night. You weren't fives. I mean 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:11.560 we had Miami, but you know you got ye kind 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.960 of created something like that mixed we got already stuff 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.400 from so anyway, so when that way, you know who 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.160 helped me come up with that name was Salon, So yeah, 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:22.359 we want the phone mad. Later, I was like, I 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.200 want to do something. When we put two songs against 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.720 each other, blah blah, and we were throwing names around 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:30.639 all night, what's happening? Asian friend man came up with 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.560 the name Battle of beast and then Salam went and 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:36.760 had Lauren Hill to the promo for me. So what happens? 0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.639 She was like, fine, it was Lauren singing if you 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.240 win five? What was it? Five in the row? Yeah, 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:43.560 then you go into like a hall of fame. Did 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:44.840 you go into the hall of fame? But did you 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.480 like actually get added to like like rotation in the station? Yeah? 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.960 Huge at the time. Okay, so battle Way, you know, 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:53.879 that was like I was starting my career, so I 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.919 didn't know nothing about my pal. You just started at 0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:58.560 that time. I mean I was I thought you guy 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.840 felt like I was just starting. But I was already 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.960 on nighttime. I'm so bad at years. Don't ask me. 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.520 I don't know. Nineties. Nineties yeah, mid nineties, and I 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.720 have went from doing overnights. I was on like two 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:11.679 and am they gave me this nighttime shift. It was 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:13.680 like a big deal, like oh ship people are like 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.440 a wake and hear me on the radio. And so 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:17.760 that's when I was like, all right, I gotta make 0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.560 a show. And I came up with bad a little 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.960 beats and no, I'm not understanding the power of it 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.280 yet because we're developing it. There's no such thing as 0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.639 hip hop radia, like we're making it happen. This is 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.600 so I just came up with it because it's was 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.399 something fun to do, okay. So but people started taking 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.399 it really like it became like a thing like I 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.760 remember lee Or calling calling me because I have put 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.800 cannabis against I had a call from le Or Okay, 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.760 like what and what is he saying? What mean for 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:52.720 must win? This? Basically we would do when we have 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.239 to do MG to make sure like it's not up 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.600 to you, it's not up to me whatever. Whatever the 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.680 phone calls is, who what do you want me to do? Okay? 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.679 So batnd of beats happens. It was jas it was 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:09.679 ether again super ugly. Well that was years later. In 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.960 the beginning, no, I'm asking for From the beginning it 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.200 was no. But at the beginning is how I met 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:21.720 J because I have put it. Remember Ellen Scratch, you 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.520 remember that second I do remember if you said I'll 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:30.439 taker night an I'll taker It was another song I 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:37.000 don't remember the name right now. So Ellen L. Scratch 0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:38.680 had a new song now and I put it in 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.480 bat little Beats and I was like, I need somebody 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.920 to go against this. And there was some kid from Brooklyn, 0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:47.639 jay Z ain't nigga and before it was before that, 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.720 it was in my lifetime. In my lifetime, I put 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:55.199 it against um Scratch. We didn't know who Jay was 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:59.040 at the time. I just put it up j bodied 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.480 Ellen Scratch. But it was ridiculous. I was like, who 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.480 is this guy? Like, who is jay Z? Who is 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.879 this guy? Why is the phone's going so crazy? And 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.919 then um, I mean years later, Jay told me they 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:16.000 paid people to call all night. But he told me 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.240 that that right now. But he told me that later, 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.120 but it really got my attention. And then he wont 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:22.479 he won for like a few nights in a row. 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.159 And then him and Dame showed up at the station 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.840 and they want me like Champagne and they showed up 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.399 in the rock the Rocket Feller buggy Ete Bends and 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.800 it was like a big thing. I don't never remember. 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:36.240 I'm struggling, what do you mean? You know? I just said, 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.240 they showed up in a buggy et Bens with their 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.720 logo on it with videos and that was that was 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.560 never remember them struggling like I've never like you know, 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.480 like you know this, there's a time in the rapper's 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.240 life where you know, the train is essential, it's a 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.400 part of it. I can't imagine him. It's like it's 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.360 like waking up in the morning, taking a ship, brushing 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.680 your teeth, and the train, it's all most of the 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.600 big all that time. I don't think I've ever seen 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.240 like James underground. He looked like he was, yeah, I've 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:10.800 never I've never seen totally remember him in Queens and 0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.400 he was and he was buying chrystal back then, and 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.240 I was just like, what is that? But that was 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.479 part of the appeal, right, like this guy, why does 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.640 he have this money? What's happening? Okay? So Battle of 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.920 Beats happened anyway, so it became a thing where people 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.360 were like really cared, and it was fascinating to me, 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:29.440 like when he was actually all of a sudden really 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.240 really cared that the apology. Did he call up or 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.760 did he come up? I forgot I forgot that part. No, 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:36.320 he was at the station that was So that was 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.280 years later. So Battle of the Beats had this legacy 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.600 and then then the years was over. Whatever flex was 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.880 like when the ether thing happened, he was like, we 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.120 got to bring Battle and Beats back for this thing. 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:49.840 And then so we did that for and it was 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.720 eat the verse super ugly and of course eat the one, um. 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.800 And then I think, guy, he was at the station. 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.920 I don't remember listening to this. I remember listening to this, 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.760 I know. OK. So it was a lot of people there. 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.920 But literally, as I was announcing the winner is NAS, 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:07.920 I could see from my peripheral in the window, I 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:14.080 could see Jay walking in and I like the winners. 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.440 He contact on that. I knew well. I had heard 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.000 that he wanted to come up, but the timing of it, 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:26.360 it was it was not a comfortable feeling. UM. So 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:27.760 he kind of came up and sat in the chair. 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.240 He was like, it is what it is or whatever. 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:33.200 But you know, I took it too far and apologize 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.400 for that part. I guess that he said all that. 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:40.280 I mean not paraphrasing that he I don't know. I 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.200 don't know how how it was out here, but in 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.520 New York history, that was ill because that was like 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.760 the first time we got to see a grown man 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.560 and he was not comfortable. And it's all the interviews 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.520 I had interviewed him maybe before or five times already 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.880 by that point in our careers, and he was always 0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.160 you know, always confident, always whatever. Ran the show. He said, 0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.200 it's something from his mom. It was yeah, he said 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.640 his mother heard and it was like, why would you 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.920 say that? You know he was I guess she was 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.720 disappointed at him for some of the things he said 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.800 him super ugly. So he apologized. But what I remember 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.280 about that day and for me, what I don't know, 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.760 just was a moment was after because I felt bad. 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.640 I've never seen him like somewhat defeated and that. So 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.400 we walked out the room. I was like, off the air. 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.280 I was like, are we good? Like I was worried 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:27.280 that this is not He was like that's what I mean. 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.240 I'm like, this is what it is. I can't there's 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:30.600 not nothing to do here. This is what you know. 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.000 He was like, no, I get it, I get it. 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.440 This is not even I don't even worry about it. 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.959 But it was like, I can't even explain it. It It 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.479 was like he understood my role in my position and 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.200 it was not a personal thing, and you know, he 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.720 kind of just reassured me like this is out of 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.760 your control. I get it. You're doing what you gotta do. 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.640 And then he just kind of left and then I 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.800 was like we'll see we're gonna be cool or not. 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.080 I don't know, of course, That's why I actually the 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.240 Elliott thing earlier is like, was it every time you 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.080 had to like set rate yourself and say you know 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.080 what I mean? That's a specific time. Yeah. Of course 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:04.800 Ja was already a friend at that point. He had 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.800 already supported me so many years, and we did so 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.720 many interviews and and but it is what it is. 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.920 I'm not gonna be like Jay Z one. He didn't 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.280 you know what, I can't do that. He understood, he 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.760 understood and respected, you know, Like how hard it would 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:19.520 it be? Like, I mean, he takes his crap seriously. 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.040 I take my two I take my job seriously too, 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.640 and I think there's a respect in that and I understanding. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.680 And if somebody don't understand that, then they're really not 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.160 my friend. That's real, you know what I'm saying, Like, Like, 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.560 how hard would it be like if if like your 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.080 relationship with Jay and relationship with with Fat Joe, even 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.560 Fat Joe, you know, when Fat Joe and fifty would befriend, 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.760 I still had to interview fifty cent respect? How is that? 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.080 What was your Texas? Like? What was your two way 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.280 like when he was the interview with Vicent and fat 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.120 Joe knew this. I mean, Joe loves me and I 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.200 love Joe and it has nothing to do with me. 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.680 And so I always try to be fair and I 0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.320 always try to but also like fifties, you know, he's 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.800 part of these entertaining funny he's entertaining, He's what is 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.880 I've always been able to like, I mean, if you 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.520 beat from with him, I'm not gonna not I'm not 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.160 gonna stop talking to you when I see you and 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.800 say what's up, you know. And if I had to 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.160 say to you, if you ask him, I have to 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.000 say what you did Tony was foul, I'm gonna say 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.160 that to you. But I'm still gonna fire. Relationship is 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.600 still gonna be separate from that. And so I just 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.080 always try to just be fair and truthful and and 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.080 let that lead and then and then if somebody don't 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.680 sunk with you after that, there's nothing you can do. 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.920 You only can control how you walk through a situation. 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.680 You can't really control how other people receive it. So 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.840 Luckily for like somebody like Joe and I who are 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.840 really friends, like you know, in their house when it's 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:41.960 I'm here in Miami, like they really friend. Of course, 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.400 he couldn't understand because at first he was emotional when 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.640 it came to like I know Joe, like Damni, I 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.080 feel like my whole life right um. And at first 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.920 he was emotional when it came to the Phisic thing 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.560 because he had he had never experienced anybody in hip 0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.320 hop say anything about him. So I knew he was 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.720 off guard a little bit because it was like his 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.800 first time and it was like and it wasn't like 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:06.760 a guy said it and just was hiding that he 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.560 was said it, and like, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.800 So so I know at first wasn't a little awkward, 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.600 not really, Okay, I mean I think I'm just careful. 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.840 I'm careful. I'm always careful anyway. I'm always careful, not 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.480 just to make sure my energy is right, like my 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.759 attentions and my energy is right, and that's all I 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.760 can control. If I'm talking to somebody they say something crazy, 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.880 I just have to make sure that I'm grounded in 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.880 my intention and my energy. And then I said, I 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.399 could walk out of that, Okay, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.600 There's nothing I can I can't control. Everybody's energy has 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.120 nothing to do with me. All I could do is 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.719 show up and try to be fair and try to 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.040 be you know, okay, do the right thing. But I'm 0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.120 bouncing around a little bit over here. Now. There was 0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:54.319 this Biggie phone call. It was all right, um, well 0:34:54.360 --> 0:35:00.600 you a deep research, you know? Um was it? Hit 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:06.080 him up? Hit him up? Comes out? Oh dog Pound 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.440 comes to New York. Right, And this is this rumor 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.200 that Biggie Small called the radio stage. No, that's not 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.719 a rumor. That's actually true. It's just no one has 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:17.879 proof for this. Oh it's on the internet somewhere for sure. 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.000 And this this was on your show, correct, it was 0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:22.920 actually I mean I was at that time. I used 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.680 to run flexis board, so I would be getting the 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.280 studio with flex But it really was flexib show. Okay, 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.239 because because because he has a deal. Like when they 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.600 put it in a Tupac movie, like they they don't 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.040 play the actual footage. They play. They played great talking 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.920 talking over right, of course, not they didn't really use 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.200 any actual footogo. I don't think for that. I don't 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:48.520 think so. But that phone call actually weird Snoop voice over. 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.680 That was weird. That was weird. But so this phone 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.480 call actually happened. Yeah, it totally happened. So Big, this 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.600 is the first because you know the reason why it's 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.879 important this phone call is importan and this because this 0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.279 is actually the first time we get to see Big 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:08.000 stand up for something. Like for the most of part um, 0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.800 I've had Snoop on, I've had Snoop. Yes, Snoop remembers 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.400 all of this, like word for word. Snoop and I 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.440 have had many conversations about this because I always dissected 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.720 like that because I always thought Snoop, you know, Snoop 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.040 and I had a little weird thing because that's when 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.600 they were doing New York, New York the video, right, 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.279 So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly remembers the 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.440 Big call. He remembers old people ran down here. We 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.080 described that to us for people who don't know because 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.200 so Big just calls funk Flex. Yeah he was on 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:42.560 the but but people have to realize it wasn't like 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.640 he called him to tell him about you know, Big 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.920 would often call into the radio, you know, So that 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.200 night it was like, Yo, they're shooting this video in Brooklyn, 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.479 Like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that book. 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.040 It was like, but that was it. It was like 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.720 a Brooklyn stand up. It was. It was a sign. 0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:04.640 It was that's very clear. It doesn't that it got 0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:06.360 shut up. But that was the first because you know, 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.439 that's why it's important. But then again, you know it was. 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.680 It was a weird time if you think about how 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.000 crazy that is that we were also invested in something 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.960 that was so dumb and kind of media created. I 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.440 had a record called l also artist Artists. But the media, 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:26.960 if anything inflamed it more covers didn't. That's what I mean. 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.560 That was the media that like MTV news man. But 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.000 it was just weird. Was that was? That was? You 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.560 know why that was the first time. Now if you 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.960 had you was privileged to actually meet Big. I remember 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:46.279 coming up to Big in the tunnel samm let's fry, 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.120 I don't know, and Big looking at me like young man, 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.880 chill out, chill. Big really tried, by the way, he 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.759 really tried to like not, I kid you not. I 0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.440 wish I could tell everyone individually, like how far left 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.200 they were, like how far to this area park was 0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.600 and how far this area Big was, Like Big really 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.319 was like I never did I never did what they 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.279 accused me of. Like he literally told me that and 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.680 that ship, but I never met Tupac by the way, 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.320 I met Big, but I never met Tupac and um 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.080 literally and it's the crazy ship is we did a 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.759 record call l A l A. But we actually but 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.200 we stood up for East Coast because I'm so sorry, 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.319 I forget. I think I'm in a lunch room. So 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:35.080 um when we actually did um mom deep and uh, 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.480 we actually did it. And I remember bringing it to 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.200 Big and I remember him saying because it was for 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:44.960 a Stretched Armstrong mixtape and Stretched Armstrong was hosting a 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.520 bad Boy mixtapes. Remember bad Boy had to mix tape. 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:53.279 So yeah, and I remember Big telling me to my face, 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.919 I'm not going to use that. And that's the reason 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.080 when l A l A came out the way it 0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.879 came out is because Big told me to my face, 0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.040 I not gonna use that. And I was like, I 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.840 was so hurt because I am defended him. Yeah, he 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.279 didn't want to first of it. He was trying. He 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.200 was trying to be the bigger man he was, and 0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.040 I think he just was trying to stay focused. That's 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.920 probably puff was probably in his ear, like don't get 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:14.879 distract I would imagine. I don't know that for a fact, 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.359 but Big tried, and also Snoop tried. I think that's 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.520 what killed Jo rule was because he tried to like 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.239 go to Biggie route and fifty was just different. Do 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.800 you think so you thinkthy was different than Pockets? He 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:31.319 like Noless. No, I felt like different, very different year. 0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.960 Both relentless. Yeah, both relentless, and both I just think 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.360 one had social media when the other one didn't. Imagine 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:42.840 the two pocket social media. It's totally different. That's a 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:51.120 big punt on Facebook, big, Holy Moly, holy ship. Oh man, 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.960 I had a moment just now. I'm literally thinking about 0:39:54.880 --> 0:40:03.000 I missed. I missed. I missed punning of course. Man, 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:04.719 do you know pun got me super high on the 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:09.959 radio one time. I had never had any like weed 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.520 cookies before, and he came to the show and he 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.000 had a bag of weed cookies and he was like, YO, 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.560 have one, And I was like, I had smokes. So 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.239 I thought, okay, I can handle a weed cookie. And 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.480 what I didn't know is it took takes time to 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.759 kick in. So I ate when I was like I 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.160 feel nothing, I'm fine. You ate more. I ate like 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:36.920 half a bag. Then I did this older he fucking 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:38.840 sat there and watched me do it. And you know, 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.480 because pun was an asshole, he was meaning the best 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.640 way possible. He was like a jux him. It was 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.000 probably hysterical, like she has no idea and so I 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.520 had way too many cookies and about so we finished 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.439 the interview and I was fine. I was like old 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.440 cookies in the world my time, which is crazy what 0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:58.800 thing happened to me? And then all of sudden, I 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.400 was like, and I'm still I had to finish the 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:03.319 rest of my show, and I thought. I said to 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.640 Patty Duke, who was my producer, I was like, I 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.480 think I have to go to the hospital pick up 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:14.520 Speedy and Patty Doodle Patty it was I think it 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.680 was both of them, and I wanted them to take 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:18.960 me to the emergency room. I was like, I think 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:20.839 I'm dying. I think I'm gonna die. In my heart, 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:24.359 I think I'm gonna die, Like I just kept saying, 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.480 I think I'm taking emergency. Anyway, they wind up taking 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.520 me home. Somebody drove me home and I slept it off, 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.040 but it was terrible, like I haven't by the way, 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:32.919 it's never again. I won't have it edible. I won't 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.880 have a gun me I'm own because Punt ruined it 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:42.840 for me forever. So, um have you ever? Oh, have 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.799 you ever? Like? Have you ever? It's never? Have you 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.120 ever regretted the interview? Like if you ever? Like you know, 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.279 it's like you know somebody like a Mike Kaiser tight 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.840 maybe not Mike Kaiser, but Mike Kaiser type, you know 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.640 who you play cards with it and they call you 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:03.080 and they say interview. You know, um d C Jeffrey go, go, 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.520 who's that nigger? Right? And then he comes and this 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.280 guy he's gonna lean and he's I hate those interviews. 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.440 He hate lean interviews. I do. I don't like. I 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.160 don't even like when people are too high. And you know, 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.080 I love Nas, but not back in the day when 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.319 Nas would smoke too much, I would I would hate 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.719 our interviews because you know, he's smart and he had 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.120 so much to say, but he would get high and 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.479 he'd be like, yeah, no he wouldn't. So I would 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.560 be like, I hope he comes today now high because 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.040 I always we get better interviews from Nas when he wasn't. 0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.640 But I think, um, I mean later, he probably learned 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:42.080 how to do interviews. Ear NAS's first show in Miami, 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:48.640 Illan out Scratch opened up and why Scratch. But I 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.000 was so disappointed, unfortunately, because I think that now I 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.160 was just so high. Yeah in the beginning, Yeah, because 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.600 you imagine now Scratch, you know how they are there 0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.800 together interacting, there, they all energy, and we're already for 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.279 noting that he just was there and you know what, 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.560 you know, a lot of us was getting to learn 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.160 our show. But I'm jumping around then later, But yeah, 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.440 people if they're too high or whatever, they what on whatever, 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.480 then it's never a good interview. And also now I've 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.000 learned that as I've grown, like I don't even want 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.280 to you know, we see people that are in bad conditions. 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.960 Sometimes I never want to interview somebody who's in a 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.920 bad state, you know what I'm saying, because it's like 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:34.000 I feel it's all meaning they high and they or 0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:39.319 they're on heroin terrible, I mean, drink whatever, but like 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.080 and your this is about your own year. But sometimes 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:46.680 people I feel like I'm taking advantage. Like there's been 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.000 people where like I literally stop the interview and I'll 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.080 be like, let's do it. Another time. I'd rather do 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.759 that than would let you play yourself and be under 0:43:55.800 --> 0:44:01.200 the you know that. Yeah, yeah with that, I'm not 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.680 good with that. You know. Another funny story is when 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:06.880 when you run a punt. It just a story of this. 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.000 When you said Punn was like almost like a bully. 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.840 Was when pun went to the flatform, right, you know 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.160 what he says, I'm thos a hundred pounds. Every time 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.400 I see that, I hear that, I cry. But I 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:23.160 remember me being in South Carolina and I had to 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.239 show on South Carolina and for for some reason back then, 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.600 people in North Carolina couldn't hear the South Carolina and 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.719 vice versa. So I was in the next stay and 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.480 Punk calls me. He's like, yo, you and um I'm 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.440 like yeah. He's like yeah, well, I'm like forty five 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.120 minutes away, come see me. So I'm like, all right, cool, 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.279 you know what, let's just go. So I go to 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.600 see him, and the counselor knows who I am. It's like, oh, 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.520 you're come to see punting. Like yeah, so puns like, yo, 0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.640 get a pass. They're gonna give you like an hour pass. 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.279 So I'm like all right, cool. So I look at 0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.920 the guy like, yo, can I get a pass? He's like, yes, noy, 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.560 but have him back in the hour and don't let 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.920 him full you. So I'm like, alright, cool, I have 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:05.480 no idea what he's talking about. Right, so I already 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.120 see where this is going. I put part of this 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.319 is back in the days, you've got a fantastic, So 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.759 I put poet of the fantastically driving a right, you know, 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.960 the fantastic should be driving around. He's happy, he's but 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:19.840 he's out of this ship. So he goes your bonna. 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.279 So I said, what's up? He goes pull over to 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.640 the KFC, and I go, yo, put him. I'm not 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:30.399 the smartest guy in the world, but I know, like 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:38.360 you're in a fat farm, KFC. It's not together. It's like, 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.319 you know, Poem is a different type of dude, he said, 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:48.520 I figured it out. I said, what is that? The 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.719 fat is only in the skin. All we gotta do 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:56.120 is take the skin off of the chicken. And I'm good. 0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:03.800 Me like an idiot, goes to Catty. I'm like, you 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.160 should want you don't want like a five? He's like, 0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:08.920 why not, don't worry, don't We're gonna get a five. 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:10.839 Will come back, get another five and I'm come back. 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:17.040 We get and I'm like you sure, He's like, listen, man, 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.400 I do a deal all the time. I'll take the 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:24.839 skin off me like the idiot twenty four or five 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:29.400 year old I am. I'm I don't boarded up thirty 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:35.640 piece biscuits, macaroni and a diet coke, my whole boy 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:44.560 on the flatform. So the crazy ship was he's it 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.400 and I don't realize that you smell like grease, like 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:53.080 if you don't if you haven't been eating fast food. 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:54.920 So we walk in as soon as they're walk in 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:58.439 there like nor we never again remember like we wiped him. 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:03.080 We every ever this of him in the world. As 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:07.359 soon as he walked in the Council's new immedia, there 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.640 was like so I just remember, I'm just sorry. I 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.880 just remember that story because that's a great story. So 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:22.439 all right, it comes time you from what I heard, 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:27.359 you wanted to be the p d or of hot 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.279 This is what this is, pure room up. I've never 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.759 heard no inside information. And for some reason, these people 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:40.799 say you know what you're and you're who you are. 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.719 But then this other opportunity, this is a brand new 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:49.280 radio station, they got the slogan flipped the switch. Everybody 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:53.600 in death jam if you slip the switch, switch forever, 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:58.760 so people are skined switch. He was switch at first. 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:05.120 Clue comes over, right, clue comes over, then envy. But 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.200 there's no Breakfast Club, there's no number one show. Everyone 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:13.600 is looking at this station like m But then there's 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.239 something remarkable. What happens the Breakfast Club performs? They do it. 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.680 But since the and like when you thought the hot 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:29.640 NY seven, literally you thought of Angie Martina, How is 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:34.040 it to make that decision because I don't want obviously 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.120 don't want to talk about the numbers, but obviously it 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.799 had to be bigger than just the numbers, because you're 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:43.960 leaving family, like I remember, like like honestly, and I'm 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.680 saying this what we'll all due respect to everyone else, 0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.080 But if it was anyone else, everyone would have just 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.520 moved on. Like that whole week, everyone was sad, like 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.799 I don't I don't know if it's amazing was going 0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:58.520 to be what it was like it was it was 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.000 gonna be a big deal, but not what it was. 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.919 I was not prepared for that, Like I'm prepared, I'm 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.399 over prepared. Whenever I do something. I already know seven 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.239 steps ahead what's gonna happen. I didn't think of a 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:09.800 lot of things and how I'm going to do it 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.160 and when of them and all that, But the reaction 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.279 of everybody I was not all the way prepared for. 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.280 Like it literally was like like it took my post. 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:21.600 In reality, it is a job, right it is, But 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.960 this you created fas always had this fear of like 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:30.399 being institutionalized in a weird way, like I would watch 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.080 people be in the game and they only worked for 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.960 one label for their whole career and then they're over 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.439 and then it's over. And I was always I loved 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.520 how we built it, we made it what it was. 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.480 Flex is my family. He made you know, helped make me. 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.560 He was um and then you know I have family there. 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.319 Enough is my brother he's still my brothers. Just spoke 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:48.719 to the other day, text me just to tell me 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:56.040 let me um. That was all. It was literally like 0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.759 three days and I still like Lauris styles. I just 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.920 talked to the other thing also of watermelon shots. Watermelon 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:07.520 shots shots good. But it was like I was I 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:11.640 felt like I was being um loyal to something that 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.640 wasn't there anymore. So it's like you built something right, 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.239 you said, that's not there any more. We're talking about 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:20.120 the regime. Yeah, it was a different place. It wasn't 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.400 the place was the original. It was Tracy. It was Tracy. 0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:25.400 It was jud who gave me my break. It was 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.960 so it was just like we built this thing, We 0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:31.000 make this thing, and then this thing becomes something else, 0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:35.200 and it becomes more corporate and it becomes different, and 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.880 all of a sudden, you're there and people connect your 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:43.080 name with this brand, and I just started feeling like 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.520 I wanted to control my own brand and my own self. 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.000 Like there was new people working in, new people in 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.840 charge that I had no really connection to. And so 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.239 what am I being loyal to? My being loyal to 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:57.000 Flex and being loyal to enough, Like if we're friends 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.000 and we're family, we're gonna always be friends. This is 0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.759 what y'all do? You do show? And then so people 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.400 get pissy and then you make them talk about that, 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:12.680 keep going, I'm not that's let's I'm not doing the show. Cool. 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:17.719 And so my contract was up for a really long 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.520 time and they nobody, nobody there was checking me on it, 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.400 which is kind of floating. So let me, let me 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:26.480 give you two scenarios. Right, so I have all this 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:30.040 this great career there and then what I just ride 0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.120 it out to the sunset and then it's over. Or 0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.160 do I look at my options? Do I look at 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.880 I built this, not only this, but I built myself 0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.080 up and now I'm still in a position where I 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:44.200 have value. Do I just ignore my value and just 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.480 sit here next to these new people and next to 0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:49.120 the family, or do I just look around and see 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.239 what's my options? So what's the thing to do? Right? 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.040 Contract been up? Nobody even they knew it. They just 0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.359 they know nobody nobody was either because they a little 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.080 bit of taking me for granting. It was like a 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.640 hand shaped like it was a handshake. Had my protect 0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:10.799 was over? I was just working like and like month 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:13.680 to month was like you wanted to be like the 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.960 m D or the p D. Why would I gonna 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:17.480 do that? You get paid less money than I get 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:21.040 paid and you gotta work twice as hard. Why would 0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:28.160 I don't want to do? So? I know? Um, And 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.360 so just what had happened was I looked around, like 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.400 what's all right? So what are my what are my options? 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:34.960 At this point in my life. In my career, I'm 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.759 a mother, I got mortgage. I got like, like, let 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.640 me just know. And then when I realized because I 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.680 always thought of them as the enemy, but then I 0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.040 was like, let me meet them and see what type 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:47.200 of you're saying? Power? It was the enemy, right, So 0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:49.640 I grew up was what it was. And then you 0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.200 meet people and you're like, oh, ship, you're not bad people. 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:58.200 You love radio, you respect me. We start having a 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:01.640 mutual conversation just to us because it's gotta be awkward, 0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.359 because you know why when we thought on Hot Today 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.719 seven again, I want to reiterate this, we thought of 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.040 you in flex right. Yeah, but let me tell you something, right, 0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:11.680 if I would have never moved right, I'm always going 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:15.319 to be Angie from How Today seven? Do you think 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:16.960 of me as Angie from Power Now? Or do you 0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:19.840 just think of me as a Martini? Okay? So what 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.720 that's very true? So true? Would that have ever happened 0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.160 for me if I stayed? Still uncomfortable? But how is 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.160 this approach though? Because no, but I'm asking me the question. 0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:33.759 No to that question alone. When I asked myself that question, 0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.440 that's real? Do I want to be my own thing? 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.839 Or do I want to just be connected to stand 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.160 alone brand, a brand that is yes, we built it right, 0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.160 but now it belongs to I don't own it, it's 0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:47.239 not mine. If they want to sell it tomorrow, then 0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:49.080 I'm out of a job. And then what there was 0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.520 no I just I just felt a disconnect from the 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.200 brand and myself. I felt a disconnect. I didn't feel 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.440 this kind of conflected build, this connect from enough, but 0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.880 the brand of the radio station. I felt this kind 0:53:59.920 --> 0:54:02.879 of different. But how did this other side even get 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:09.279 to you? Like y'all first going to them? Because for 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.719 years they would always try to come from me and 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:15.239 I'd be like, nah, I'm never I'm never going over there. 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.520 You can't. You could never afford it was on that 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.080 young dumb because I like, I owned the brand, the 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:23.120 other brand, I'm owned none of that, you know what 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.360 I'm saying, Like I but I was acting like that, 0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.279 but I was like no, no, no. But then once 0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.120 I had that realization, like there were some things that 0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.239 happened behind the scenes, some decisions that were made that 0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:35.880 I didn't like that I had no control over. We 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:40.919 did that show. I hated that show, that reality show. Yeah, 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.759 there was decisions that were being made that were not 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:46.560 in my best interests. So if this brand is not 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.200 looking at my best interests, why am I being loyal? 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.960 Why am I sitting here when there are other options 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.880 for me? And so I started looking, and so I 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.960 had put the word out that I would be interested 0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.719 in having a conversation just to see what's out here. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.960 And then when I did, I just felt like it's 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.239 a better experience for me to know what happens. That 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.040 I don't want to just have one experience my whole career. 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.160 But let me address like the elephant that I was 0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.600 in the room. At least. Then a lot of the 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.360 blame was blamed on Ebro. Yeah, a lot of you 0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:20.000 I love a bro for the record, Okay, a lot 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.960 of it was like, you know, he came in and 0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.120 at first, like now I consider him, I don't even 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.400 even blame him a little bit at the time. In retrospect, 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.719 I do not, because at that time it was a 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.680 new regime. He was trying to find his way out, 0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.200 he was going from p D to on air, and 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.560 so he was kind of looking out for his best 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:44.239 interest to an extension, which he's supposed to. But also 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.440 it made me realize this is not my best interest, 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.640 and so let me start looking out for self, right, 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:51.600 let me not just be dumb and loyal and be 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:55.160 like whatever everybody wants, but nobody's making sure this is 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:57.440 good for me. I had to back up and be like, 0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.040 hold up, you go to for advice, but when you 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.239 make that type of move, like or you did this 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:04.520 all on your own, like you you sat back, or 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:06.320 do you do you talk to a whole boy. I 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:08.080 didn't want to talk to nobody about that because I 0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:11.840 didn't want I didn't want it to I wanted to 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.360 control the narrative that. I wanted to control the outcome 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:17.240 of that. And I have a theory that, like, everybody 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.880 has the best friend, right, So you might be my 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.479 best friend and I trust you, but you got another 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:23.880 best friend that you trust. So I'm a volt Like 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:25.320 if if there's something I don't want people to know, 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.520 I don't tell nobody. And the same thing, if you 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.719 tell me a secret and I value our friendship, I'm 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.200 never gonna tell nobody else because as much as I 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.279 love this person and trust them, they trust and love 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:38.440 somebody else. I'm very careful about that type of thing. 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:40.600 So I really didn't tell nobody, like my man but 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:45.279 about it, like he knew, but literally like that's probably it, 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.920 like even nobody like nobody. And also I needed to 0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.480 figure it out. It was so close, and so it 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.120 was so like a tender decision that I really didn't 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:55.880 want no other noise. I really wanted to know I 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.560 was doing the right thing. I've never seen like the 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.879 industry shaking up, like it's like it really freaked me out, 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.000 like I can't, I can't even lie to you. Like 0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:05.600 That's the reason why I keep comparing it to the 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.200 Floyd Mayweather because Floyd always seemed so happy with HBL 0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:11.520 and then to see him with like the showtime, it 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:15.640 was just like wait, wait what HBO. We didn't see 0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:17.440 it like that. And the thing about it is like 0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:19.560 I know we spoke about it, well, isn't if that 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.480 was my company we rolled that to the wheels fall off, 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.760 or if that company was like, hey, you get to 0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:27.520 decide this, this this, then we could rocked. But like 0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:32.560 it wasn't. I was a paid employee, no equity, there's 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:37.400 no equity, and there's also no protection if you decide 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.520 tomorrow you want to start playing dance music, which by 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.120 the way At that time, it was starting to heap, 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.400 but they were starting to play, don't know. It was 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:46.880 like a time they were they were experimenting, and I 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.320 just thought I had been there a really long time. 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:54.040 They could easily make a change. And then but so 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.240 who do I leave my destiny to? Do I leave 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.600 it to a company or do I take it into 0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:02.240 my own hands and decide was the better fit for me? 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:04.800 And I also just feel like you gotta shake it up. 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:08.760 Sometimes I felt I was a little comfortable. I could 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:10.280 have just sat there and rolled that out, but I 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:14.120 was very comfortable, like too comfortable where I'm uncomfortable because 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.440 I'm too comfortable for you know what I'm saying, Like 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.160 that was your you gotta get up, you gotta shake 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:21.080 it up. And this is what I told Drew Sky 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.000 to remember that day. Juiceky was my show producer, and 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.760 he was like he was very upset. Wait wait wait 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.720 wait oh so he frowned out one air. Everybody found 0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:30.840 out that day. The only person I told the day 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.400 before the night before it was Flex. I wanted to 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.000 have that moment with him, but everybody else found out 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:39.160 when I got there, Like nobody so and you said 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:41.240 it on the air. No, I said it right before 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.560 they knew. Everybody was already like in tears by the 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:45.160 time I got to the air. But what I had 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:46.680 said to Juice I was like, you have to you 0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.520 have to shake it up. Like it's okay, we did great. 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.640 Ship doesn't negate anything, doesn't negate My love for nobody 0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:56.400 doesn't agate what we did. But we're moving forward now, right, 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.480 And so what happens is when you shake it up, 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:01.480 it forces other people situations to get shaken up. So 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:06.000 me leaving opens up a slot for Drew Ski or 0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:10.600 for Nessa or for somebody else to just keeps the 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:13.720 energy moving right. And so for myself and for other people, 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:15.560 it's not just you know me, So do you ever 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:19.400 a turn on? Listen to it? Or you like that ship? 0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.080 I have no. No, I have no. And I'm not 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:23.800 even just saying this because it sounds cool, like I 0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:27.400 have no bad feeling stories it at all. People think 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.440 like you said, e Bro, Like I love you, Bro, 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:34.320 you know what I'm saying. But I can't keep myself 0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:37.280 tied down to something that don't fit me no more 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:39.440 because I love people like if they love me back, 0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:41.320 they want me the best for me, you know what 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:45.600 I'm saying. Like, so I never really subscribed to we 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:49.240 gotta be enemies because we work at different radio stations. 0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:51.160 We don't none of us own either one of those 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:53.920 radio stations. None of them. That used to bother me 0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:57.120 when um, like I stole an album released party or 0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.320 something like that, and the labels would tell me, what, 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.720 we're gonna have a power party, and then we've gotta 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.880 have a hot party. Yeah, And I to be like, 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.720 why we just can't just party? And the crazy ship 1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:11.160 subscribe to that like they live like you can't know 1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.560 is that's only in New York, Like it's mainly in 1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:22.080 New York and not not in the import show in 1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:24.760 Jacksonville and Fort Mine. Well, because in smaller markets that 1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:30.040 happen to get bustle. But they have against the trust 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:32.520 me all radio stations. If you have competitive it's it 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.080 can get very safe in corporations at only stations have 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:38.080 kind of like pushed out of Jenn. Of course you're 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:41.400 not doing that to me. And honestly, that's one thing 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.240 I was proud of, is that there was so much 1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:46.680 hostility between everybody I had and everybody a power and 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:50.160 I refused to do that even when I left, because 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:56.160 my friends, they friends, that's your friends, the motorcycles, the biles, 1:00:56.200 --> 1:01:00.960 the bikers got the best party like this. Man. You know, 1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:03.600 they provided us with that water, met us a rock. 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:06.440 You provided us with some dog perry, y'all. You know 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:09.600 what I'm saying, some more wet and and anytime you're 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:11.840 in South Beast, give us that address. Now you gotta 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:14.600 check them at best Buy Liquor dot com. Man, were 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.400 and give me the address because you know well you 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:19.800 want to go to nineteen nineteen three sixty seven South 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:22.440 Dixie Highway. God damn it, best Buy Liquors at a 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.240 world dot com. Best Buy Liquor dot com. God damn it. God, 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:33.400 that makes the l's best buy. Anyway, I say all 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:36.600 that the same, and I was proud of the fact 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:39.720 that when I left there, I was able to maintain 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:44.840 my relationships with people there and then also create new 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:47.240 relationships like I didn't even I never knew Charlottagne. I 1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:49.800 never knew none of them. I remember the day you 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:52.680 got over there and how because this is when I 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:55.600 knew that Charlottagne was kind of a genius. Was because 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:57.680 he had like like beef with the whole Hot ninety 1:01:57.720 --> 1:01:59.560 seven and as soon as you came over there, he 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.440 had so much great things. He admired you so much. 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.680 And I love being able to break that wall down, 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:10.320 like it's not that serious looking at what are we 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:15.640 talking about? It reminded me of one thing I had 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:17.880 spoke to Flex, right, and Flex was talking about this 1:02:17.960 --> 1:02:21.280 guy so bad, and I was like, in front of 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:23.560 guy and that just Conflex, And I was like, yo, Flex, 1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:29.040 he goes, it's just competition, like he always like that. 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.360 He's like, yeah, none of this, I said on the radio. 1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:33.400 I just I just, you know, I just wanted to know, 1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:36.120 like we're in competition, Like I was like, I never 1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:38.600 knew that. You know what else I respected about Flex? 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.440 Up and tell you this is probably one of my 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:44.640 favorite Flex stories. I come on, let him come in, 1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:51.000 Come on. This is one of my favorite It's one 1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:54.280 of my favorite people's stories, not just Flex stories. Was 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:59.760 I remember Flex saying that he had to meet record 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:04.479 the record the Meek. Remember remember Drake Drive. He didn't 1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:06.160 he didn't have it. It was a lot he didn't have. 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:11.560 He was a lot, right, Yeah, everybody, I'm gonna play 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:16.440 it the next day. Listen literally my flight. I literally 1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:19.280 was like your hold. I was like, your look classic 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.160 if I get on, If I get on this flight 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:24.880 right now, and I missed this, I wanna miss this 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:28.080 classic New York moment. So I actually stood there and 1:03:28.160 --> 1:03:32.200 waiting so botom line. Flex didn't get the joint right. 1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:36.160 So the next day I called Flex and I'm trying 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:38.480 not to bring it up. I'm just like, yo, I 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:42.200 got this record. The Flex is like he's listening, like 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:46.280 who's on the record, right, but he does he wants 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:50.600 to ask me. So Flex goes, how did I look yesterday? 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:58.520 What do you mean? He goes, He's like, how did 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:01.760 I look us today? He looks a little funny? He said, 1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:04.360 was I making like a biscuit? I said, you bake it? 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:08.760 And he said, like me, like, you know you looked 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:11.200 at it? He said no, y'all know, I said, not 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:14.240 not Flex, but did you did you never have the record? 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:17.000 He's like those such a stuff. Told me he had 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:18.920 the record, but I should have not listening to that, 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:21.760 and this is why I respect Flex. And he goes, 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:24.680 he goes, he goes, love, I know I looked at 1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:27.120 like a biscuit? And I go, how do you know? 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:29.240 He said, cause I stayed home the whole day. Yeah, 1:04:31.200 --> 1:04:33.720 and I didn't open my door for nobody didn't. But 1:04:33.840 --> 1:04:37.360 I had one delivery he said. I said, fuck it, 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:39.600 they knocked my door, and he said, I open it 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:42.200 up and open the delivery. And the guy just looked 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:48.280 at me and said rough night. And you know, he 1:04:48.400 --> 1:04:52.240 took his losses his win. I had never seen somebody 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:56.400 with the same smile that he had his winning because 1:04:56.440 --> 1:04:58.440 he loves the game. He loves the ups and downs 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:02.440 a bit. He loves he loves that's when he's lost. Like, 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:05.080 I've never seen nobody like he's like you, I knew 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:07.480 I funked up, like I shouldn't have said I had 1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:10.840 the record, like so like, I know, I know I 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:13.560 asked you like in a certain way and the um. 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.240 Has there ever been a time where artists has sat 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:21.120 down with you said some crazy ship and then told 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:25.680 you you'll please erace that. Oh yeah, multiple times? And 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:34.040 I tend to I tend to respect it unless they're 1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:38.000 in the wrong in some way like example, but really 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:41.760 I won't because ultimately it's like normally it's nothing's that serious, like, 1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:45.760 but artists is really uncomfortable with something I'm not depressed, 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:49.360 like because like I said, I'm culture friendly, I'm artist friendly. 1:05:49.440 --> 1:05:53.560 I'm like, we're all here to lift each other up. 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:58.480 And so if something is said that's you know, that 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:00.200 hurts somebody, then we take it out. I don't care. 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:03.640 That's fine. So that's happened, not a lot. I don't 1:06:03.680 --> 1:06:05.480 make it easy because I don't want that to be 1:06:05.560 --> 1:06:07.960 to become a thing. But it's happened a few times. 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:09.920 You're gonna ask me not when, and I can't remember nothing. 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:14.680 Do you have any like opinion on today's like media culture, 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:18.920 journalistic culture, because you're saying you're culture friendly. Yeah, and 1:06:19.000 --> 1:06:23.320 it doesn't seem like today's blogs and websites culture friendly, 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:27.080 the ones that claimed to be the most culture friendly. Yeah, 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:30.120 I think I think it's a tough I think it's 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:39.040 a tough thing to keep going on. I got so 1:06:39.120 --> 1:06:41.880 we're back like four flats on the Cadillac. But um, 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:45.960 so you also ran a marathon. Yes, it was a 1:06:46.120 --> 1:06:52.760 terrible idea. Let me tell you something. Twenty six point 1:06:52.800 --> 1:07:00.560 twenty six point too, but that I used to have 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:03.680 to run another point, it's not every month you did 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:06.200 this before Puffy or no, I did a way after 1:07:06.240 --> 1:07:07.800 I just did this a few years ago. I didn't 1:07:07.840 --> 1:07:09.439 a year when I left. When I went to Power 1:07:09.640 --> 1:07:12.520 that first year, I was so like inspired, you know, 1:07:12.640 --> 1:07:15.160 the rush of going that rush I could you imagine 1:07:15.200 --> 1:07:17.440 a rush I had of that translation, I just want 1:07:17.480 --> 1:07:22.000 to pitch this. So you hate you leaving? Yeah, the 1:07:22.080 --> 1:07:27.520 biggest contract of your life. And you say bucket and 1:07:27.600 --> 1:07:29.200 then that's sort of sound I'm like, what am I 1:07:29.240 --> 1:07:32.280 gonna do? Now? Do something else that sounds like some 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:34.760 rich people shop. I'm just doing because it was on 1:07:34.840 --> 1:07:36.720 my bucket list time. I'm a bucket list person, like 1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:38.600 I used to I was a kid. I used to 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:40.360 watch it like yo, if I could do that, I 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:42.640 could do anything. I used to literally watch the marathon 1:07:42.720 --> 1:07:45.240 and think that. So I was a bucket list thing. 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:47.640 And that's a specific marathon. Was the marathon New York 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:51.720 City Marathon. So then so then another way, she just 1:07:51.800 --> 1:08:06.160 told you that like that. Sorry anyway, So, my friend 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:08.760 c C. Sebatia and Amber Spathia they were doing this 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:13.280 thing the floor right whatever. So they were doing a 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:15.560 team for charity, and I had just come off the 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:18.400 high of this transition and I was like, now's the 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:20.960 time I'm gonna do it. So we had like six 1:08:21.080 --> 1:08:23.599 so I told her I'm gonna run on the team. 1:08:25.080 --> 1:08:27.000 She was like, okay, great, she just mentioned the team. 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:31.479 My son muld do it. She had a team because 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:32.800 you know, in the New York City Marathon, you have 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:34.320 to be like on a waiting list. Is that that 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:36.640 that marathon? Like you can't just go run it like 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:39.280 we have to. I just can't say I'm gone. You can't. 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:40.880 But it could take like two or three years to 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:42.639 be on the waiting list to get accepted because it's 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:45.160 full like it's every year unless you're doing it for 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:47.280 charity and you can find a team to be part of. 1:08:47.400 --> 1:08:49.800 So she had a team registered to go run. So 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:51.920 she had mentioned that our kids played little league at 1:08:51.920 --> 1:08:53.240 the time. They were playing a litle league, so she 1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:54.840 mentioned she was doing this team, and I was like, 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.640 it's on my bucket list. I'm coming down from the 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:00.799 higher the transition. I'm going to run the fucking marrin. 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:02.960 This is gonna be amazing. In my mind, it's gonna 1:09:03.000 --> 1:09:05.880 be amazing. I can't run. I can't run up the 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:08.120 block without passing out, Like I'm not a runner. I 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:11.240 don't even don't know why I thought for this, no 1:09:11.400 --> 1:09:12.920 listen to me. So when I told her I would 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:16.120 do it, I had six months. So I was like, 1:09:16.240 --> 1:09:20.680 in six months, train six training much. I've be in 1:09:20.760 --> 1:09:24.200 great shape by then. I can't run to the corner 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:26.640 store right now, but in six months, I'll run the 1:09:26.680 --> 1:09:30.600 New York It'll be a great idea. Anyway, not a 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:35.800 great idea. So I start training. I can't run a mile. 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:47.000 I can't run two months. So no one, you don't 1:09:47.000 --> 1:09:54.320 like water keep black people. Hey, I'm just playing. It's 1:09:54.360 --> 1:10:01.479 a terrible joke, very racist show. Continue enjoy this. You 1:10:01.600 --> 1:10:04.120 gotta have a shot puff if you want to give 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:09.920 me a check solemn. I'm not doing the whole shot, 1:10:10.000 --> 1:10:14.599 but it's very tasty. Um. Anyway, So I start training 1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:17.519 and I realized, wow, this was a bad idea, like 1:10:17.840 --> 1:10:20.080 almost immediately. But I've already said it on the air. 1:10:20.360 --> 1:10:22.799 By the way, speaking of Puff, Puff makes a donation. 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:24.519 I'm going to give you a thousand dollars for every 1:10:24.560 --> 1:10:31.160 mile you run each day, every morning, every night. Is 1:10:31.200 --> 1:10:35.120 gonna give me six thousand, two hundred dollars. So he 1:10:35.200 --> 1:10:37.479 says this on the radio. People are making donations. We 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:40.400 gotta we gotta pressure. So a lot of pressure, and 1:10:40.439 --> 1:10:42.760 I already said I was gonna do it. I'm signed up, 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:47.679 I got a blog about it. I started really having 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:51.560 like severe anxiety because I was like, I can't you know. 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:53.600 So I used the app, right, and it tells you 1:10:53.880 --> 1:10:55.439 this is how you should train. Oh, you've got six 1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:57.160 months where you need to do one mile this day, 1:10:57.240 --> 1:10:59.640 four miles this day. So the days I'm supposed to 1:10:59.680 --> 1:11:01.680 do a I still can't run two. So I know 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:05.120 I'm I'm way pat you know I'm way behind. But 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:08.000 I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna walk when I can't, 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:11.160 I'm gonna run, I'm gonna walk. I'm whatever. So anyway, 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:14.839 so about two weeks before we're supposed to run the marathon, 1:11:15.680 --> 1:11:18.240 they say you're supposed to do a long run. So 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:20.120 if the marathon's twenty six you're supposed to run like 1:11:20.160 --> 1:11:22.840 eighteen miles and that's the furthest you go, then you rest, 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:25.600 then you show it for the day. So everybody on 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:27.719 my team is like, oh, because they've all been training 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.360 there in great shape, they're all ready for the marathon. 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:33.880 They've all already run ten, twelve, sixteen miles. So we're 1:11:33.880 --> 1:11:36.559 gonna do the long run as a team before the marathon. 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:41.599 Let me tell you something. I thought I was gonna 1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:45.439 die when I tell you die, and I walked half 1:11:45.520 --> 1:11:46.840 of it like I thought I was gonna die. So 1:11:46.920 --> 1:11:49.479 cut to the end of the eighteen miles, I'm hobbling 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:52.280 to the car like I came and walked. So now 1:11:52.360 --> 1:11:54.200 we've got a few weeks before the marathon, and my 1:11:54.439 --> 1:11:57.360 my leg is funked up from the long run. So 1:11:57.520 --> 1:11:59.720 from that day to the day of the marathon, i'm 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:03.639 I can't barely walk, let alone run. So I show 1:12:03.760 --> 1:12:05.720 up at the marathon and they got us in the 1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:07.479 v I P tent because with you know what the 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:11.720 Sabbathi is, and so there's like Olympians and probes, you know, 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:17.080 athletic people didn't run. It was his team. So I 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:20.719 show up. I'm I'm hobbling to the marathon. To the marathon, 1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:23.160 I'm already limping up to CEC who just struck out 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:26.599 three thousand people brought away to think. So I hobbled 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:28.559 to the thing, and now I have to run twenty 1:12:28.600 --> 1:12:31.000 six point two miles. This is how no God is 1:12:31.040 --> 1:12:35.200 really Like I know God is real because I literally 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:39.559 prayed my way through the whole marathon, like I prayed 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:42.640 the whole way. Like first it was like get me 1:12:42.760 --> 1:12:45.120 through the first couple of miles. By the way, so 1:12:45.200 --> 1:12:46.920 let me just tell you this real quick story. So 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:49.240 the marathon, you start on the Arizona Bridge. That's how 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:52.479 it starts. And now I got my the whole team 1:12:52.600 --> 1:12:56.120 is with me. We got started at the Arizonal Bridge. 1:12:56.920 --> 1:13:02.080 We all start and Amber's there, Ceci's wife. We're not 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:04.920 even halfway over the bridge. This is the beginning of 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:08.880 the marathon, and I can't keep up. Already my team 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:12.439 is out. I'm like, just cold. Without me, You're not 1:13:12.520 --> 1:13:16.400 even likely. I'm like, go, I'll be okay, go on 1:13:16.560 --> 1:13:21.360 without me because I'm running mad slow. So I don't know. 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:24.519 I literally prayed. But there was a point I got 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:26.599 to like seven miles, and I was like, I'm gonna 1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:29.200 finish this. I'm gonna When I got to seven, I 1:13:29.280 --> 1:13:31.080 was like, if I could do seven miles, I'm gonna 1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:33.599 do twenty six months. I'm gonna finish this. It took 1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:36.240 me mad long. For the last five or six miles, 1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:40.360 I was literally like like like limping running, like skipping 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:43.160 and hopping running, And I'll never forget this with in 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:46.519 Central Park and it's towards the end, it's like a 1:13:46.640 --> 1:13:49.800 mile left. It sounds like nothing, right because but go 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:52.840 run a mile right now, it's still a mile, like 1:13:52.920 --> 1:13:54.920 I just did five miles and still a mile left. 1:13:54.960 --> 1:13:58.439 And I remember thinking, I'm not gonna make it after 1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:04.519 you like, and I literally my body was like it 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:07.439 was it was beyond my mind. It was beyond my prayers. 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:11.040 It was like my body was like, you're finished. You're 1:14:11.160 --> 1:14:13.559 not going to do this last month. Your body cannot 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:16.559 do all five barrels, right, you run through all five barrels. 1:14:16.640 --> 1:14:19.280 So you start, you said so, now you said you have, 1:14:20.360 --> 1:14:22.519 So where are you at? We ran through Brooklyn, through 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:25.360 the Bronx. We did all that. Now we're back in 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:30.599 Central Park. Yeah, all of that. I'm at twenty five 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:33.360 and I'm literally I could feel my you have like 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:36.000 I could feel myself falling to like I was gonna 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:40.519 fall on the ground. Five. I was literally like, this 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:43.880 is terrible. I've made it this far. I cannot do another. 1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:47.600 I'm gonna die right now. The wall, it's like a 1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:52.120 wall where the walls. At thirteen, I hit that moppy 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:54.760 on the Queensboro Bridge. That's where that when you hit 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:57.479 the wall. That happened to me. I'm on the Queensburg Bridge. 1:14:57.520 --> 1:15:01.280 It's freezing, it's cold. Hit the wall. I'm gonna die. 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:03.680 Describe to people would do it because I'm in the 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:07.760 ball means I can't run one more since time, but 1:15:07.840 --> 1:15:10.599 then you still have thirteen more miles. So I get 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:12.639 to that, I hit the wall. I'm gonna die. I'm 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:16.640 on the Queensburg Bridge. My knee hurts, and you know, 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:18.840 when people are running, you start getting hustle, you start 1:15:18.880 --> 1:15:21.479 throwing your stuff up. People are throwing T shirts as 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:23.559 you're running. So I'm on the bridge. It's mad clothes 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:26.400 on the bridge. So I started thinking, like I'm a mcguiver. 1:15:26.520 --> 1:15:28.679 I'm like, I'm gonna take somebody's tee shirt and wap 1:15:28.760 --> 1:15:31.320 it around my knee to stop the pain, and then 1:15:31.360 --> 1:15:36.560 I'm gonna be able to make it past like so 1:15:36.720 --> 1:15:38.479 I didn't. I picked up something tied it around the 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:40.639 bottom of my knee because my knee was like swollen, 1:15:40.760 --> 1:15:42.839 and I was ready and pain. This is that thirteen 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:46.200 I make it all the way to twenty five. Imagine that, 1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:48.760 and now I'm gonna not make it and this is 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:50.840 not the wall. This is something else. I'm a mile 1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:53.720 away and I can't go one more. I cannot do it. 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:56.080 I'm gonna die right now. I can't do it. I'm 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:58.040 gonna just lay on the floor. This is my one 1:15:58.080 --> 1:15:59.639 of my mind. What's that mind? I'm gonna just lay 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:01.720 on the floor right here in Central Park. And it 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:04.920 is what it was. I tried. I can't nobody fart 1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:07.320 of me. I ran twenty miles. My body can't do it. 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:10.360 I can't do another mile. I'm gonna die. I'm literally 1:16:10.439 --> 1:16:12.320 running at somebody. There was this lady. I don't know 1:16:12.320 --> 1:16:15.040 if she was all the black woman. I don't know 1:16:15.040 --> 1:16:17.560 if she knew me or she didn't know me, but 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:20.439 it was like it was like an angel. I was 1:16:20.479 --> 1:16:22.519 like I was about to die, and the lady was like, 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:27.360 I see you. You're gonna be okay. This is in 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.479 the middle of Central Park. It's random, late angel. She 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:32.840 wasn't a bottle of mar She was on the sidelines 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:36.360 a shopping car. She had a shopping car. No, she 1:16:36.520 --> 1:16:39.160 was just standing there like a barricade. But I was 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:54.400 going to She was like, I see she just canople 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:56.560 around me. But she's talking to me, and she's like 1:16:56.640 --> 1:16:59.559 talking loud. I hear She's like, I see you. You're 1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:01.599 gonna be okay. You're not gonna go down, You're gonna 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:03.720 get there. You're gonna fish something about that lady like 1:17:03.840 --> 1:17:07.920 locking in. I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. 1:17:08.160 --> 1:17:10.160 It's like when it was in Amsterdam there was a 1:17:10.240 --> 1:17:13.640 guy drove by on a bicycle and that everybody. I 1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:20.840 was just like something, it's not just everybody is like 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:25.800 this guy good drips buying a bicycle and he says, 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:39.479 don't do cocaine. Like the same thing. Sorry. He said, 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:41.920 You're gonna be okay. You're gonna be okay, you guys. 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:43.519 But it was like an angel. I swear you guys. 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:45.479 Was that No, God's real number one God. There's no 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:47.479 way I get through that marathon without praying my way 1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:49.799 through the whole thing. And then when I'm gonna fail, 1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:52.519 this lady is like screaming at me, looking my eyes, 1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:54.439 told me exactly what I need to hear to get 1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:56.880 me past that that mill and I did. I mean, 1:17:56.920 --> 1:17:59.000 I was literally I was like the lights were going off, 1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:01.040 the people were packing up the bagels like people are 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:03.040 going home. When I finished, like it was late, it 1:18:03.160 --> 1:18:06.040 was dark. My friends had finished two hours ago there, 1:18:07.640 --> 1:18:09.120 but I made it. But I made it a cause 1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:18.759 people around you seen your citizens and let me finished 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:21.439 us a lot of money. But anyway, but now you 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:26.000 can't tell me nothing. Congratulations of congratulations, you can do anything. 1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:28.080 You can do anything? Really is it because you wanted 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:30.560 them like strong minded people? It's just it was the 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:34.439 bucket this thing. No, I'm strong minded when I when 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:36.360 I'm locked in, you know what I'm saying. If it's 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:39.560 something like I don't nobody wants to bell right, like 1:18:40.280 --> 1:18:42.280 you want to push yourself, And I knew I was 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:43.760 going to have to push myself. It wasn't like a 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:45.560 real thing, but it was a good exercise for me 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:50.080 to know, Like, honestly, your mind is like way stronger 1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:52.560 than you think it is when you're put in that 1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:54.840 position that you have to be. You know what I'm saying. 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:56.439 If you told me we're outside right now to minds, 1:18:56.439 --> 1:18:58.519 I probably couldn't do it. But if you put a 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:01.320 gun to my head and you will, like run two miles, 1:19:01.560 --> 1:19:03.960 I'm gonna run two miles. And that's not only because 1:19:04.160 --> 1:19:05.880 and that's your mind, right, that's your You have to 1:19:05.920 --> 1:19:09.080 be able to know the drellaline because the thing about it, 1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:12.479 like I just want to be clear with the people, 1:19:13.320 --> 1:19:15.479 It wasn't like Power one of five was like I 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:19.080 supposed to be the station to take Hot nine down. 1:19:19.200 --> 1:19:23.599 Like it was still secondary, right, Like I mean at 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:25.920 this time, I mean coming up, I mean our heart 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:29.680 you know later on, but at this point, like this, 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:31.439 this is how New York City was looking at it. 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:33.240 Like back in the day, it was looking at it 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:36.560 like it was the A side and Power was the 1:19:36.640 --> 1:19:39.400 B side. Yeah, that's always how the underdog starts. They 1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:42.880 were the underdog. Um so did they have something to 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:46.320 do with your drive of completing it? It really wasn't 1:19:46.320 --> 1:19:49.400 about how or power. It's about my own energy and 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:54.120 giving myself new energy, giving myself the freedom to try 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:56.639 something else. And it's okay no matter what nobody says, 1:19:57.120 --> 1:20:00.040 what people's opinion is. I'm curious about how to with 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:01.720 another way. I've been doing it this one way for 1:20:01.840 --> 1:20:04.280 so long. I'm curious to what's going over here. I was. 1:20:05.000 --> 1:20:07.080 I was excited to work with the Breakfast Club, even 1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:09.519 though you know, I liked what they were doing. I 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:11.240 like what my Heart was doing as a company. They 1:20:11.280 --> 1:20:13.800 were doing these big heart festivals, and I wanted to 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:16.560 experience that too, and I didn't and personally, in my 1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:19.280 heart and my gut, I didn't feel anything wrong with it. 1:20:19.680 --> 1:20:23.280 So I just didn't want to let other people's ideas 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:25.960 kind of dictate what the rest of my career had 1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:28.160 to look like, because then you because when you don't, 1:20:28.240 --> 1:20:30.639 because listen, if you don't take control of your own 1:20:30.680 --> 1:20:33.679 self and your own destiny and you allow other people 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:38.080 to run that ship, that ship could take a turn 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:41.120 and you don't have no control of it, and then 1:20:41.400 --> 1:20:44.639 then what So I was really like, Okay, I'm gonna 1:20:44.680 --> 1:20:46.960 I'm gonna drive this ship, like I'm gonna take control 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:48.679 of this and do what I want to do. Otherwise 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:53.680 could easily you know, So how how because um we 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:56.360 spoke about like you seeing jay Z the Rise of 1:20:56.439 --> 1:20:58.280 jay Z and then now you like you work with 1:20:58.400 --> 1:21:02.120 rock Nation, you have Hells with title and things like that. 1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:05.800 Was that easy for you to do that or was 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:07.880 that was that a process as well? What do you 1:21:07.960 --> 1:21:10.559 mean like I'm just getting into business because you get 1:21:10.560 --> 1:21:12.880 to see this guy, he comes up as an artist 1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:16.360 and now, let let's be honest, Jay is not coming 1:21:16.400 --> 1:21:18.519 to my meetings with me you know what I'm saying. 1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:21.280 It's his company and I respected and he has been 1:21:21.320 --> 1:21:25.680 a good like I used my call sparingly, like I 1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:28.160 don't call him for everything, but if something big happens 1:21:28.200 --> 1:21:30.040 and I'm really confused about something or I need help, 1:21:30.520 --> 1:21:32.639 he has been gracious like that to me, Like I'd 1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:34.200 be like, I really want to run something by you, 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:37.599 but I don't. I don't waste those on small things. 1:21:37.760 --> 1:21:39.080 You know what I'm saying. I call him when it's 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:41.240 something I really feel, and he's always been good to 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:43.439 me that way. So being with rock Nation, it's not 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:47.400 like Jay's hands on it with my career, but it's 1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:50.840 what he built. So it's this, it's a it's um. 1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:54.600 You know, there's an integrity about what he's done, and 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:58.080 it's an integrity about how he runs rock Nation, and 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:00.720 it's the people to you know, they what I feel like, 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:04.080 that's that's that's the thing is Like you said it earlier, 1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:06.560 he was like, we don't own stock and you know, 1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:09.880 hot and power. But the thing is like what title. 1:22:10.400 --> 1:22:13.400 It's like, we don't we can't call anybody at Apple 1:22:13.479 --> 1:22:15.840 like I'm talking about not you know, we could call um, 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:19.280 what's my man? Named Larry Jackson. God bless him. He's 1:22:19.280 --> 1:22:21.880 a great guy. But you don't. But you don't only neither, 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:25.800 So like, at what point are we going to start 1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:27.839 doing that? But if you ask me, do I support 1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:31.519 what I support title before? I support Apple? Absolutely? Does 1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:34.080 it mean I wouldn't do some of that? No? But 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.320 why wouldn't we do that? We should? We should support 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:40.640 that in every way. I mean same what you sit 1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:44.639 here and vote drinking the rock, like you know, it's like, goddamn, 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:50.519 we don't vote drinking the rock. We should try. I 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:53.360 mean it doesn't always work because sometimes people what people build, 1:22:53.600 --> 1:22:56.960 it doesn't really connect. But when you can, we should 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:58.960 support those we want to have. You know, we should 1:22:58.960 --> 1:23:02.000 be able to alright have those platforms and you know 1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:05.479 what I mean? So, um, yes, before we get out 1:23:05.479 --> 1:23:09.040 of here, um, I would like to continue you in 1:23:09.120 --> 1:23:12.600 the picture with DJ Khalin, I really want you to 1:23:12.640 --> 1:23:22.240 say Kalid Caliver friends like kid and I would like 1:23:23.439 --> 1:23:27.960 because I'm proud of the guy. I'm very proud of 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:29.720 the guy. I know I from this proud of the guy. 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:34.360 He's Miami's very ask any questions because I feel like no, 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:38.400 I'm just sayings like and it's like us. But how 1:23:38.560 --> 1:23:42.439 crazy is the house? Holy moldy house is insane. Yes, 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:45.280 it's not so much that it's I feel like he 1:23:45.360 --> 1:23:49.920 told his interior decorator kill Puff Daddy ship. I'm just 1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:52.560 being honest. I just feel like I just feel like 1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:55.320 he took his terry decorator as his friend. He's like 1:23:55.400 --> 1:24:01.439 this smike for Antonio and he never told Puff this 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:04.360 is and he showed him every part of his crib 1:24:04.439 --> 1:24:07.960 and to kill it in every aspect. I don't know 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.000 if he did that. Just be honestly, my mom, that's 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:15.599 what happened. It's legal name was Antonio. My face. Interior 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:19.160 decorating the ship was being honest in my mind. Houses, 1:24:19.320 --> 1:24:22.080 I made it up beautiful. It's a beautiful. But what 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:24.240 I love about it it's not It doesn't feel cold 1:24:24.320 --> 1:24:25.519 like you know, people make a lot of money and 1:24:25.560 --> 1:24:27.200 then they buy these big houses and it feels like 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:30.960 a museum. It doesn't feel like a home like house 1:24:31.280 --> 1:24:36.920 outside inside yeah yeah, but it's inside. I know there's 1:24:36.920 --> 1:24:38.960 TVs and I have no idea how to describe this. 1:24:39.320 --> 1:24:43.280 It's cute. It's outside inside, but it's outside like family 1:24:43.360 --> 1:24:47.880 friend and yeah, and he has listen listen. I don't 1:24:47.920 --> 1:24:49.800 know if you've been the pup Crib, but pup Crib 1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:55.840 Scott Storch, same ship. They had their studio to the side, 1:24:57.080 --> 1:25:00.519 like when you walk into has Oh, I went to 1:25:00.600 --> 1:25:05.840 that quick he has the same exact thing, but he 1:25:06.000 --> 1:25:11.720 went to interior decorators destroyest ship. It is very well 1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:18.400 decorated in my opinion, because listen, listen, college kid Callig, 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:22.240 Kalid Chalet and Joe is looking like the illest competition. 1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:26.080 Like it's like it's like, you know, brother competition. So 1:25:26.320 --> 1:25:27.880 you know, I don't know if you know Joe has 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:33.200 the million dollar Ortumar forgets it's like a million dollars. 1:25:33.479 --> 1:25:35.800 Like I'm bragged about having a friend that has a watch, 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:39.240 it's a million dollars. Two days later, College used to 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:52.519 protect Kalig. Well, he gets Calli's name, and in my mind, 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:55.800 I'm like, I think he went to his jew and 1:25:55.920 --> 1:26:00.960 said kill Joe ship. But Joe candy Man, because Joe 1:26:01.080 --> 1:26:04.360 taught him that level of competition. He pretty much Joe 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:06.519 put him on this way from the beginning. That's a 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:09.680 fact that I'm so happy and proud of College. I 1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:21.240 am proud of College too. Give me one more watermelon. 1:26:21.320 --> 1:26:22.599 Before we get up out of head, let me get 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:27.120 one more watermelon. But what is your favorite? What's your favorite? 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:29.960 We are actually everybody this What is your favorite time 1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:32.400 by hip hop? What is your favorite laft? Whether you 1:26:32.560 --> 1:26:36.080 was involved with it or not, that's really hard to say. 1:26:36.160 --> 1:26:43.160 I mean, m you know because as a fan, as 1:26:43.240 --> 1:26:46.120 a fan, it was when I was a kid coming up. 1:26:46.160 --> 1:26:48.080 That's why what got me in and it was it 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:52.439 was two times right, it was rock Him because that's 1:26:52.479 --> 1:26:54.759 the time brock Cam is the time he's a period 1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:59.599 interview rock Him, interview you interview a sat Rocky who 1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:02.120 reveal that he was named that he was named the 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:07.000 rock together. That's why I was like, that's one of 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:14.200 your favorite But I didn't that one. I'm sorry. Yeah 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:19.320 you google the fear I saw that no Google that 1:27:19.439 --> 1:27:21.760 it was no Google back then. That was live on 1:27:22.040 --> 1:27:25.240 Hot Ony seven and he brought his mother was one 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:27.720 of my now he called his mother on the phone. Yeah, 1:27:27.800 --> 1:27:33.560 yeah it was. But I know that I knew that 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:35.960 Rocky was named after rock Camp. Had he had told 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:37.200 me that on my show And then the next time 1:27:37.240 --> 1:27:39.599 he came and this is to look at rock Camp. 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:41.560 How gracious he is he had, he wasn't promoting that 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:43.400 he'd have no reason to come, and I was like, 1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:45.160 I would really like you to come meet this guy. 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:47.960 He was named after you, you know. And he came, 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:49.639 and you know, if you know anything about rock camp 1:27:49.800 --> 1:27:52.200 getting him somewhere on time, we're trying to get him 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:54.960 and then on time, right, so he had to be 1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:57.120 at a certain time otherwise he was gonna miss Rocky 1:27:57.160 --> 1:27:59.360 would have defeated the whole purpose. He came. He came 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:02.040 on time. He was so dope and humble, and that's 1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:04.479 what I love about him. Number one, he's to me 1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:09.400 one of the greatest ever. And then also he's super humble, 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:12.280 and he's just my brand and my type of rapper, 1:28:12.479 --> 1:28:16.000 Like he's not really like he's what made me fall 1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:20.960 in love with hip hop. Like that's all that was 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:31.920 like a brown mm hmm before we get about hit, 1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:34.600 is there anybody that you hated and then you like, 1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:36.479 you ask people questions and you don't let the finish start. 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:43.040 I'm very good anyway. Spanish over No Rock was probably 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:47.040 personally one of my favorite errors. Then also ros I 1:28:47.240 --> 1:28:50.040 very much enjoyed the Black Medallion. I was very much 1:28:50.160 --> 1:28:55.800 like a tribe Leader's Jungle Brother You said, like I 1:28:55.880 --> 1:28:59.800 think of that black all that I was native to. 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:04.320 All that was definitely like I know probably all the 1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:07.800 words a Younger Brothers album, like all the words me 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:10.200 and Mary will do being by the way Mary took 1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:13.519 me and Mary will line for line. I could do 1:29:13.600 --> 1:29:15.920 a Junger Brother Soffie like the line for line. Still 1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:18.240 know all the words so that time. But then, as 1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:21.519 in my career, it's too many good there's too much 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:25.040 good stuff. You gotta have one moment though, where it 1:29:25.160 --> 1:29:27.400 was like, what was the moment that you like you, 1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:30.960 that you like you knew that this was for you? 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:37.680 I mean different different ways, different times. I think the 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:40.400 Park interview made me feel like the Park interview made 1:29:40.400 --> 1:29:42.320 me feel like I could do things that could matter 1:29:42.680 --> 1:29:46.720 and how was your dinner? Park interview It made me 1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:50.960 feel like, oh, I could actually contribute to how things 1:29:51.600 --> 1:29:53.800 get presented, how things could be shaped, and I could 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:56.840 actually help or hurt or I just started making me 1:29:56.920 --> 1:30:01.000 understand that. But then it's a called pull. Moments after 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.800 I had a baby, I was feeling disconnected, and then 1:30:03.840 --> 1:30:05.880 when I came back, that was when the r Kelly 1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:08.559 jay Z thing happened. Remember that at the concert when 1:30:08.800 --> 1:30:12.560 R Kelly the Then both of them came to my 1:30:12.560 --> 1:30:14.519 show in the middle of the night, remember that. Oh, 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:17.040 and he had left McDonald's or some art. You know. 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:20.240 What happened was the show ended. R Kelly broke out. 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:22.240 Ja had to finish the whole concert by himself. And 1:30:22.400 --> 1:30:24.720 I'm in the parking lot, by the way, I just 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:27.240 come back from Eternity leave. I have been feeling disconnected. 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:28.560 I was like, I don't know if I love this 1:30:28.560 --> 1:30:31.200 ship anymore. I'm I haven't had, you know. I was 1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:33.600 feeling like And then I was in the park a 1:30:33.640 --> 1:30:35.320 lot and Mike Kaiser called me. He was like, yo, 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:37.360 Jay wants to come to the station. Now it's late, 1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:38.880 it's not even my shift. And He's like, but he 1:30:39.000 --> 1:30:41.880 only wants to talk to you, So, um, can you 1:30:41.960 --> 1:30:43.200 go to the station? Who wants to meet you there 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:46.320 right now? So I'm like, okay, yeah, of course. You 1:30:46.400 --> 1:30:48.160 know this big thing just happened at the garden. He 1:30:48.320 --> 1:30:52.920 was r Kelly broke out, Twitter the Internet, but everybody's talking, 1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:55.240 everybody's outside the concert. I'm at the parking lot going 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:56.760 to the parking lot and Kaiser called me. It was 1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:58.719 like Jay wants to come up. So I call whoever 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:00.040 was on the station I think was Big Dennis. I 1:31:00.120 --> 1:31:03.439 was like, listen, I need to get on. You can stay, 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:05.840 but you you got to get up the air because 1:31:05.920 --> 1:31:08.160 Jay wants to come when he wants to me. So anyway, 1:31:08.200 --> 1:31:10.800 we worked all that out and then Jay came and 1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:12.920 he gave me the whole story. But it's the middle 1:31:12.920 --> 1:31:14.760 of the night. Everybody's tuned in. He had this big 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:17.680 thing just happened at the concert. And then while I'm there, 1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:19.640 I get the call that R Kelly's listening and R 1:31:19.720 --> 1:31:23.240 Kelly wants to come now. Yeah, so this is now. 1:31:23.320 --> 1:31:25.240 It's like one am, two am. I'm on the radio 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:27.840 in the middle of everybody's listening because it's ship just 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.439 happened at the garden. And I told you it was 1:31:30.479 --> 1:31:32.000 like Kelly wants He's like, you could talk to him. 1:31:32.000 --> 1:31:34.040 We're just about done anyway, So Jay Z tells this 1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:35.800 type of story and he leaves, and then like a 1:31:35.880 --> 1:31:37.960 few minutes later, R Kelly walks in and I do 1:31:38.120 --> 1:31:40.519 the R Kelly sounded. It was so crazy. The whole 1:31:40.600 --> 1:31:43.280 thing was just so crazy that I was like, this 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:47.679 is my ship, Like this is so good. I felt 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:50.000 I just felt like this is I'm good at this, 1:31:50.320 --> 1:31:52.800 Like I'm good at this. I felt like even when 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:54.479 I even now, if I go listen to the interview, 1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:57.439 I was like, I wouldn't have changed anything about what 1:31:57.560 --> 1:32:02.439 I asked how it happened. But you know, but also 1:32:02.520 --> 1:32:04.640 when you love what you do, sometimes when you when 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:07.479 you're putting like whatever you do, if you play baseball 1:32:07.479 --> 1:32:09.439 and now you're at the World Series, you're like, this 1:32:09.560 --> 1:32:11.000 is my ship, this is what I came to do. 1:32:11.560 --> 1:32:13.639 So when you have those big moments and those big 1:32:13.680 --> 1:32:17.519 interviews and you deliver, it gets those juices go, you 1:32:17.600 --> 1:32:19.519 know what you feel and I and so that made me. 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:21.439 That brought me back to work like that was like 1:32:21.520 --> 1:32:23.840 post maternity. I just came back. I was just going 1:32:23.840 --> 1:32:26.400 to feel like myself again. And then that interview happened. 1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:29.240 I was like, oh, this is this is let's go, like, 1:32:29.320 --> 1:32:31.400 I'm back. I felt like I had been. Was that 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:34.040 your favorite interview? No, I wasn't my favorite, but it 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:37.400 just had my favorite. No, that's too hard. I don't know. 1:32:39.280 --> 1:32:42.600 Did you have you ever felt as a Latina that 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:45.840 there was ever anything against you being Latina? That's a 1:32:45.880 --> 1:32:49.320 good question. No, not you know what, what I noticed 1:32:49.479 --> 1:32:51.720 because if you're from New York, you know that if 1:32:51.800 --> 1:32:53.560 you Puerto Rican and black, we grew up in the 1:32:53.680 --> 1:32:57.240 same way. There was no separation. Like I didn't even 1:32:58.200 --> 1:33:00.559 I didn't even realize that outside of New York things 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:03.599 were different away from New York, and so in New York, 1:33:03.720 --> 1:33:07.080 it's not a big deal because I'm Puerto Rican and 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:08.800 Puerto Rican and Black. We grew up the same. We 1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:11.599 go to the same corner store, we talked the same, 1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:14.639 everybody smokes Newports, everybody like it was like we lived 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:17.400 the same life. So there wasn't a real separation. I 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:19.680 know it's in different cities. It wasn't like that, But 1:33:19.800 --> 1:33:22.040 it was until I got on and then I would 1:33:22.160 --> 1:33:26.600 travel that people would be surprised, like, oh, who's this. 1:33:27.280 --> 1:33:29.639 Remember one time I was somewhere early in my career, 1:33:29.800 --> 1:33:32.679 just started traveling a little bit, hosting parties. It wasn't 1:33:32.680 --> 1:33:35.040 even l A was whatever another city and somebody said 1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:39.920 to me, who you Lisa Lisa. I was like, Lisa Lisa, 1:33:40.400 --> 1:33:42.640 because that's the only reference of a Latina even in 1:33:42.720 --> 1:33:44.800 the space that they ever had. It was such a 1:33:44.880 --> 1:33:47.800 weird and I was like, wow, people I didn't. I 1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:49.519 didn't realize until I went out of town that there was. 1:33:50.080 --> 1:33:52.280 But in New York that was never a thing. You 1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:55.200 know what I'm saying, And I love Salam always says 1:33:55.240 --> 1:33:56.599 the Salam just said this to me. I saw him 1:33:56.600 --> 1:34:02.080 earlier that he noticed that after I had, you know, 1:34:02.240 --> 1:34:04.680 become something on the radio, that he noticed that a 1:34:04.760 --> 1:34:09.080 lot of radio stations across the country started putting employing 1:34:10.360 --> 1:34:15.280 like an Angie Martinez. It's still to this day. I 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:18.800 was gonna say that there's still to this day like 1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:28.360 that everywhere, like actually that it's called that's like the 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:30.920 most flattering things, like when I speak to independence and 1:34:30.960 --> 1:34:34.080 I'd be like like, oh, normal, um, you know l A, 1:34:35.200 --> 1:34:38.559 oh yeah, she has the Angie slot. And I'm like, Okay, 1:34:38.800 --> 1:34:47.880 that's pretty great. That's dope, It's amazing, amazing. So I 1:34:47.920 --> 1:34:50.240 would actually, what's the proudest moment? But you know this 1:34:50.360 --> 1:34:52.439 is drink champce, So what is the moment that you 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:58.439 wish you could have took back? Who's the worst moment? 1:34:58.520 --> 1:34:59.320 He was like, I don't know if I have a 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:02.040 good answer for the question, because I hate to answer 1:35:02.040 --> 1:35:03.760 because I always ask people this question and then they're 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:06.160 like you know, everything happens for a reason, So I 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:13.080 don't think this is a drink chance. But it's such 1:35:13.120 --> 1:35:15.360 a shitty answer. I never want to say it, but 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:18.599 it really is the truth. You learned from every situation. Um, 1:35:19.320 --> 1:35:21.120 I'm sure there's things that would have done different, though 1:35:21.160 --> 1:35:23.920 I don't I don't know. I can't think of him 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:25.639 right now. That's a whack answer right now. I'm sorry. 1:35:25.640 --> 1:35:30.040 You can edit that part out. You don't. Now. We 1:35:30.240 --> 1:35:32.880 try not to as a little as possible. We had 1:35:32.960 --> 1:35:35.880 the guy Rory here, he tried to edit and it 1:35:35.960 --> 1:35:40.400 didn't go right. He tried to trying to edit. To 1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:42.639 think about this, we want to be as raw as 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:44.880 it is. And I want to tell you, you know, 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:49.479 to your face, um, when it comes to media, like 1:35:50.000 --> 1:35:52.280 I'm gonna see you my godfather, but I gotta remember 1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:57.479 like you're like you're you know, godmother, because like I've 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:58.960 said this a couple of times, but I want to 1:35:58.960 --> 1:36:01.240 say this on our plan for him. I remember me 1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:03.559 and a she I just finally had the number one 1:36:03.760 --> 1:36:07.519 because I had to r e that hit number one 1:36:07.680 --> 1:36:09.400 on the Battle of the Beach and the number one 1:36:09.439 --> 1:36:11.479 on Hot nine. But I was on the road. But 1:36:11.560 --> 1:36:14.160 when super Dog hit number one, I was in New 1:36:14.280 --> 1:36:16.799 York City and I remember this like it was yesterday, 1:36:17.120 --> 1:36:18.800 and you you called me up and he was like, 1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:21.519 bo and I guess, you know, like when I like 1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:24.000 person hit number one, they like they like to borrow 1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:26.760 this interview, and I guess I was like, I was 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:29.240 just energetic, and he was like, Okay, you built for this. 1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:32.000 And you said to me, you know I'm gonna get 1:36:32.080 --> 1:36:34.720 sick on Wednesday, so you're gonna fill in for me. 1:36:34.920 --> 1:36:38.080 And if it wasn't for that, so I went and 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:40.920 I remember, I remember it was because I remember the 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:47.679 the number for Honey seven. And um, I don't remember 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:50.600 if I knew the number because I was practicing, or 1:36:50.680 --> 1:36:52.639 knew the number because I used to be thirsty trying 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:54.840 to call in to get my record play. But I 1:36:54.920 --> 1:36:57.560 remember how I just putting me in that position. And 1:36:57.840 --> 1:37:01.320 and that's the very first time I actually got love 1:37:01.479 --> 1:37:04.640 to interview somebody to deliver information. I always wanted the 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:07.040 information to be delivered to me, and you saw that 1:37:07.160 --> 1:37:09.600 in me, and I know you didn't really know, but 1:37:09.760 --> 1:37:11.880 but you didn't really know because you're like a gurule. No. 1:37:12.000 --> 1:37:14.200 This is a thing thing I can see that in people. 1:37:14.240 --> 1:37:17.320 Sometimes I'll see, like, I don't know that you could, 1:37:17.320 --> 1:37:19.800 because you have to be able to command the conversation 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:22.719 and deliver and have a perspective and not be afraid 1:37:22.760 --> 1:37:24.960 to have an opinion or I don't know, just just 1:37:25.040 --> 1:37:29.160 be engaging. There's people that could talk all day, talk day, 1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:31.320 and who cares. But then there's people who can talk 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:33.439 all day and then you you're paying attention for some 1:37:33.600 --> 1:37:37.280 reason and something about your delivery that keeps your attention, 1:37:37.360 --> 1:37:39.760 and that to me is what we all strive to 1:37:40.200 --> 1:37:42.920 be able to do. Um. So sometimes I could see 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:44.880 that in people, whether it be on there or even 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:48.280 Joe Button too. We saw that earlier Joe um back 1:37:48.400 --> 1:37:54.479 him up, bat him up to him. He always had 1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:57.680 that too, Miss Lloyd's from Rappers transitioning because you know, 1:37:57.880 --> 1:38:01.479 you know, for so long it was either you you know, 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:04.680 have a jump shot or after after your career is over, 1:38:04.760 --> 1:38:09.320 it's done, it's done, which is so whack. That's whack 1:38:10.280 --> 1:38:12.560 a cultural community. How do you grow like that? You 1:38:12.600 --> 1:38:15.040 don't have a perspective, You can't only have one perspective 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:17.920 like I was trying, like, you have to be able 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:19.640 to have an old g perspective too, and I know 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:24.000 you hate the word you do have to balance. It's like, 1:38:24.200 --> 1:38:27.000 we spent all this time to create this culture that 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:31.320 you're just gonna leave it in the hands of the inexperience. 1:38:31.760 --> 1:38:33.439 You want to give the inexperience and the new the 1:38:33.520 --> 1:38:36.000 opportunity to grow and have their own lane. And that's great, 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:37.960 but you don't want to negate all the lessons and 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:40.120 all the things that we have learned and also to 1:38:40.240 --> 1:38:43.920 be able to elevate it and pick people up by Yeah, 1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:47.200 the big home with little programs were important, but like 1:38:47.680 --> 1:38:53.320 I mean, and we've advocated for us to have a 1:38:53.439 --> 1:38:58.400 hip hop union, meaning like we ain't organizing the unfortunately 1:38:58.720 --> 1:39:01.439 you know what not anyway, but I think I think 1:39:01.560 --> 1:39:04.880 with Nipsies pass and I think this is Nipsey would 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:07.720 have been somebody to help lead something like that. Yeah, 1:39:08.320 --> 1:39:10.800 because because the thing about it is like, if Caress 1:39:11.120 --> 1:39:14.160 gets sick right now, I don't believe that it's on 1:39:14.280 --> 1:39:17.000 the responsibility of his family. I believe that he gave 1:39:17.120 --> 1:39:20.360 hip hop so much that he should get something back 1:39:20.960 --> 1:39:23.920 that I mean, not even get something back. His bill 1:39:24.000 --> 1:39:26.320 should be taken care of. He should have no worries 1:39:27.439 --> 1:39:29.519 do you do you believe. Of course I believe that. 1:39:29.680 --> 1:39:31.960 I wish we were not organized. And I've heard people 1:39:32.360 --> 1:39:35.160 have this conversation over the years, but like, who's our leader, 1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:37.840 Like I don't even know how that happens or how 1:39:38.240 --> 1:39:41.400 we do have leaders that could I think and I 1:39:41.479 --> 1:39:44.880 think should give the money to David Banner and kill him. Mike, 1:39:45.360 --> 1:39:47.639 they don't trust them, they don't have they can create 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:51.519 the money. Yeah, I mean I think it should trying 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:54.280 to kill him. I think SAG is a perfect example 1:39:54.479 --> 1:39:56.160 of what we could create in hip hop right now 1:39:56.880 --> 1:40:00.280 because all levels you can be and you ca look, 1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:03.800 there is another thing. They sent me a letter the 1:40:03.880 --> 1:40:07.519 other day. I was I felt offended. They said, this 1:40:07.640 --> 1:40:14.200 is my retirement of the company. Other then it was 1:40:14.280 --> 1:40:19.120 so it's a sack, it's the sad of music business. 1:40:19.240 --> 1:40:23.120 And they gave me they say, yo, listen, here's your yo. 1:40:23.360 --> 1:40:25.920 Not not at all suits with the s No. No, 1:40:26.000 --> 1:40:27.840 I don't know what that is. It's something like that 1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:31.040 sounded no, no, no, this is that nothing to do 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:36.559 this guy ship with your retirement. Yeah, this is a fact. 1:40:36.640 --> 1:40:40.960 I don't see sack. I don't know that sounds that's 1:40:41.040 --> 1:40:43.439 not that bang that you can tell you published you too, 1:40:44.880 --> 1:40:49.439 God damn all over the place. I have to pass 1:40:49.479 --> 1:40:51.320 you to Blunt because I passed everybody, and Blunt you 1:40:51.360 --> 1:40:56.839 just say no. You always say that I gotta past everybody. 1:40:56.840 --> 1:40:59.599 But I've been passing fact Joel Blunt for twenty one years. 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:03.160 You know he hit one time. But it wasn't a blunt. 1:41:03.640 --> 1:41:08.000 It was a vapor was there. It was weird and 1:41:08.040 --> 1:41:10.320 there he had a point, a little CV. I enjoyed 1:41:10.439 --> 1:41:14.560 CBD pen CBD not the same thing. CBD s No, 1:41:14.640 --> 1:41:17.880 it's amazing. I'm ready to let advocate for it. I 1:41:17.920 --> 1:41:19.840 got a company for you. Don't worry about it, Okay, 1:41:19.840 --> 1:41:21.800 I got a company for you. Say it off there, okay, 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:24.040 but listen, I am just want to tell you that 1:41:24.200 --> 1:41:27.040 we appreciate you, we love you. You don't have been 1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:31.160 holding down. I I want to do norma you know, no, 1:41:31.360 --> 1:41:34.439 no no, but guess what. Okay, we want to like 1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:36.880 I'm about to start. No no, no, no, no no. 1:41:37.280 --> 1:41:39.600 But the thing is to me, no no. The thing is, 1:41:39.760 --> 1:41:44.519 it's so corny when people big people. Afterwards, I want 1:41:44.560 --> 1:41:46.479 to big you up. Why you're here. I wanted you 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:49.360 to tell you, like to your face, like I appreciate you. 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:52.360 You saw something, you still something meat. Damn there, it 1:41:52.479 --> 1:41:55.760 was damn there fifteen maybe eighteen years ago, and you 1:41:56.080 --> 1:41:58.600 you told me feeling and I just wanted to be 1:41:58.720 --> 1:42:00.760 on Hot ninety seven. I had, I did what I 1:42:01.200 --> 1:42:07.000 But that moment leads up to and the thing about 1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:12.840 it is you've been relentless, You've been resilient on what 1:42:13.000 --> 1:42:15.560 you do. Don't worry about it. When we have be 1:42:15.680 --> 1:42:17.360 with Elliott Willson, we used to call us that Elliott 1:42:17.400 --> 1:42:21.920 wasn't trained because every time something he happens, like but 1:42:22.320 --> 1:42:25.960 we are even great placed a great place. So big 1:42:26.040 --> 1:42:28.320 up Elliott Wilson. It's not called the Elliot Wasn't trained 1:42:28.360 --> 1:42:33.040 no more. We call it the adjacent Elliott will Train. 1:42:34.160 --> 1:42:38.720 It's not him, but it's just played. But um in 1:42:39.280 --> 1:42:43.519 in in our world, it's so corny, like to big 1:42:43.600 --> 1:42:45.920 up the next person. And I want to change that. 1:42:46.120 --> 1:42:47.880 I want to change the narrative, but that I want 1:42:47.920 --> 1:42:50.320 people to sit down and say, you know what, what 1:42:50.520 --> 1:42:52.840 you do, what you do and what you did and 1:42:52.960 --> 1:42:56.680 what you've done is remarkable. And I would like to 1:42:56.840 --> 1:42:58.800 you to know that, I would like you for you 1:42:58.880 --> 1:43:06.840 to no, no, yeah, But we were talking about TMX 1:43:07.760 --> 1:43:14.200 Jim Jones got he cry. No, no, it was because 1:43:14.240 --> 1:43:16.040 it was doing in the middle of the Cameron thing 1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:20.920 and oh yeah yeah, remember that keep crying our shoe. 1:43:21.280 --> 1:43:23.680 He cried with Flex first and then we had him 1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:29.280 the very next day and yeah, but they're a great place. 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:32.840 So big up to Jim, Big up to Cam kick 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:38.840 if we did not cry laugh because okay, you know, okay, 1:43:38.840 --> 1:43:41.160 if we were about childhood, right, I don't know, I 1:43:41.160 --> 1:43:44.080 don't know if you ever knew this story. Nobody wants 1:43:44.160 --> 1:43:53.160 to heart. Come on, got anything with this one? You? 1:43:55.000 --> 1:43:57.519 I got one record, I got l A l A 1:43:58.720 --> 1:44:01.479 maybe t r yse like coming out a little bit right. 1:44:02.880 --> 1:44:05.960 So I'm on to roll with I Canlelly, I can 1:44:06.040 --> 1:44:11.880 Letly's gonna roll with kicking Free so I don't smoke. 1:44:12.360 --> 1:44:14.920 I'm like the wink stuff, even though I'm the guy 1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:18.599 who smokes, like all they are dancers and then people 1:44:18.600 --> 1:44:21.720 who don't smoke or at least bust something fucked up. 1:44:22.640 --> 1:44:26.000 So every like, stop I want to see here, free 1:44:26.040 --> 1:44:32.479 can see smokes. So we stopped bing here just good 1:44:32.520 --> 1:44:36.560 reasons to me. You ever seen tape, I'm like, you know, 1:44:37.080 --> 1:44:40.840 I'm thinking he's gonna play me some DJ you know, 1:44:41.240 --> 1:44:48.559 like everybody, everybody's going I'm nervous, so I'm thinking something. 1:44:48.720 --> 1:44:54.200 I think you read babies from tape like something like that. 1:44:54.680 --> 1:44:56.439 So I was going on this rule and he got 1:44:56.960 --> 1:44:59.519 he got to save you. At the time, like the time, 1:44:59.600 --> 1:45:03.680 I felt like holy ship stick say and we like, 1:45:03.800 --> 1:45:08.000 he don't want to leave. It's my best friend. But 1:45:08.240 --> 1:45:10.120 little did I don't know? He said, you ever see 1:45:10.160 --> 1:45:16.479 my tapes? I said, no, I haven't, and he bloods 1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:20.400 in the date. I fast forward a couple of pots, 1:45:22.320 --> 1:45:38.240 but he ended up with his legs like looking, why 1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:40.880 would you show you that. I'm like nineteen years old, 1:45:40.920 --> 1:45:45.120 I'm scarred and this is my favorite teacher. Just get 1:45:45.160 --> 1:45:50.080 a prey and I'm sitting there, you tell this story. No, 1:45:50.240 --> 1:45:54.240 he cris but he's like that he literally want it 1:45:54.360 --> 1:46:01.760 churned out and he's like, yeah, you never make that. 1:46:08.720 --> 1:46:11.559 From that moment on, I was scared. I would never ever. 1:46:11.640 --> 1:46:21.120 This is horrible, terrible like this, so you're another bigger 1:46:21.560 --> 1:46:27.240 before I can't take. Yeah, but listen, from that moment, 1:46:28.600 --> 1:46:32.439 I've never been to another man's room. But it's like, 1:46:32.479 --> 1:46:35.360 you're come on, smoke. I I'm good because I don't 1:46:35.360 --> 1:46:37.560 know what you're gonna show me. I went to, I 1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:43.679 went to you went to Oh my god, so you came, 1:46:44.200 --> 1:46:46.479 you hung out and did I enjoyed myself to this 1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:49.599 was thank you for joining. Yes, and you have your 1:46:49.640 --> 1:46:53.639 own show I do. This is like your your nineteen 1:46:53.720 --> 1:46:56.080 hundred show. You are be getting money for a long time. 1:46:56.479 --> 1:47:00.960 What do you mean hundred? Damn? You can show together too. 1:47:01.360 --> 1:47:03.639 We are going to do that. We're gonna day, We're 1:47:03.640 --> 1:47:07.200 gonna make it happen. Don't say it here. I like that. 1:47:07.320 --> 1:47:10.640 I like that. That's for somebody to beat us to it. 1:47:10.760 --> 1:47:15.240 You know we moved slow, Yes, beat us right. That's 1:47:15.240 --> 1:47:20.840 a good idea. So, um, what is your favorite part 1:47:20.880 --> 1:47:22.439 of the industry before we get up out of here? 1:47:22.520 --> 1:47:25.200 What's your favorite? Like? What do you can't deal with? 1:47:25.360 --> 1:47:29.280 Like we you can't live without? I like that. I 1:47:29.400 --> 1:47:32.360 like the idea of that, Like the opportunities are endless, 1:47:32.439 --> 1:47:35.120 and I like that we've been around long enough to 1:47:35.280 --> 1:47:38.560 see what you know, to watch somebody like Khalid go 1:47:38.760 --> 1:47:41.280 from a DJ to what he's been able to build, 1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:45.280 or watch somebody watch j and what he's been able 1:47:45.320 --> 1:47:48.280 to build, or you know, just a different world. How 1:47:48.360 --> 1:47:53.840 you been able to evolve, Like, yeah, I just saw 1:47:53.880 --> 1:47:55.800 Snoop the other day. I went to his compound and 1:47:56.160 --> 1:47:59.840 looking at what he's doing in l A, and it's 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:05.160 I just feel like he should like scientology. Well it's 1:48:05.240 --> 1:48:08.240 kind of amazing. It's just like scientology, like you feel 1:48:08.240 --> 1:48:14.360 like incredible, you know, scientology, and he's amazing anyway. So 1:48:14.640 --> 1:48:18.240 I just feel like I never feel like there's not 1:48:18.320 --> 1:48:20.599 another thing I could do. I'm always chasing something else 1:48:20.640 --> 1:48:23.200 I'm ow and the opportunities like are endless, right, and 1:48:23.280 --> 1:48:26.040 so we could always grow, we could always There's always 1:48:26.160 --> 1:48:28.120 even if I just was doing radio, right and I 1:48:28.160 --> 1:48:30.479 didn't have these TV aspirations and things I'm trying to 1:48:30.560 --> 1:48:33.120 do in different spaces, even a radio, there's always a 1:48:33.160 --> 1:48:35.760 new artist to kind of understand and a new thing 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:38.760 happening within the culture. It's just a forever evolving thing. 1:48:39.360 --> 1:48:41.479 So it just never gets boring, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:44.920 it's always I don't know, it's always growing and always 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:48.200 you know, keep going. Okay, So when we interview every artist, 1:48:48.360 --> 1:48:52.840 we go through the discography. Oh god, that was something 1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:59.760 that you walk in here, Yeah, you were playing and 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:04.840 your face was like, what are they doing you literally 1:49:05.560 --> 1:49:07.479 stop doing that. I don't really have to stop doing it. 1:49:07.880 --> 1:49:09.519 Don't to say something I used to be like that. 1:49:10.680 --> 1:49:14.040 You never like that reggae thrown. At one point when 1:49:14.080 --> 1:49:16.920 I felt like I represented for reggae thrown, like reggae 1:49:16.960 --> 1:49:19.760 thrown didn't represent for me. I was bitter. So I 1:49:19.840 --> 1:49:23.000 hated everything that I ever did. And then I realized, 1:49:23.600 --> 1:49:26.760 fun these guys accepted me or not. I set me 1:49:27.439 --> 1:49:30.040 and what I did this history, and I accepted that 1:49:30.360 --> 1:49:32.560 when you think you'll ever be there, it's different for me, 1:49:32.800 --> 1:49:35.479 right because because you really like you literally you walked 1:49:35.479 --> 1:49:38.640 to hand. Because I always compare it to like when 1:49:38.680 --> 1:49:41.799 you like somebody busting out, like let's say something everywhere 1:49:41.840 --> 1:49:44.160 you when somebody pulled out your junior high school photo, 1:49:44.240 --> 1:49:47.760 you'd be like, please stop pulling that. Same to me 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:51.439 that time, I was like, it just feels. And also 1:49:51.680 --> 1:49:54.360 I didn't have the luxury of I was ready on 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:55.600 the radio. I was ready doing so so by the 1:49:55.600 --> 1:49:58.759 time I started doing music, I'm a baby. I'm literally 1:49:58.840 --> 1:50:01.599 writing my first eight or as ever, like I'm learning 1:50:01.680 --> 1:50:05.960 how to do this, but in public it would be 1:50:06.000 --> 1:50:11.560 a DJ call it because he was you was you 1:50:11.680 --> 1:50:14.200 have to be his inspiration. But what I was saying 1:50:14.320 --> 1:50:16.720 is that I didn't get a chance to. So we 1:50:16.840 --> 1:50:18.640 did the first album, which I think was you know, 1:50:18.680 --> 1:50:20.439 it was okay. Second if I could go it was 1:50:20.479 --> 1:50:23.840 a top ten hit UM. But I don't feel like 1:50:23.920 --> 1:50:26.800 I gave myself the chance to evolve to the type 1:50:26.800 --> 1:50:30.040 of artists that I probably could have warned up becoming UM. 1:50:30.520 --> 1:50:33.360 And so because when I hear it, I hear the 1:50:33.800 --> 1:50:36.240 baby noess of it. I hear like like a fresh 1:50:36.320 --> 1:50:39.759 new artist who doesn't I'm still learning. I'm still learning. 1:50:39.920 --> 1:50:41.640 I'm not as good as I could have been or 1:50:41.720 --> 1:50:44.360 eventually been, right, And so when I hear it, now 1:50:44.520 --> 1:50:47.880 that's all I hear, it's like, I don't know if 1:50:48.200 --> 1:50:49.439 it bothers me, but I have to get over that 1:50:49.479 --> 1:50:51.760 because what I realized I gotta get over because what 1:50:51.800 --> 1:50:53.840 I realized is that there are people that connected to it. 1:50:54.280 --> 1:50:56.160 So I'll get some girl I meet, some girls should 1:50:56.160 --> 1:50:58.080 be like, well I love this, so abody out and 1:50:58.160 --> 1:51:00.559 I'm like you did, And I don't want to take 1:51:00.600 --> 1:51:02.960 that away from her because I you know what I'm saying, 1:51:02.960 --> 1:51:04.920 because of whatever my things are, So I really have 1:51:05.000 --> 1:51:07.280 to stop doing that. And you know how classic Ladies 1:51:07.400 --> 1:51:11.719 Night is. It was classic, yeah, super classic. Yeah, ladies 1:51:11.720 --> 1:51:13.680 and I was classic. And that was the first like, 1:51:14.120 --> 1:51:15.880 that was the first thing I ever wrote, was my 1:51:16.000 --> 1:51:17.680 verse for that. Like I never wrote anything in my 1:51:17.760 --> 1:51:19.960 whole life until I wrote my verse for Ladies Night. 1:51:20.200 --> 1:51:22.720 Before that, I've only been on one other song and 1:51:22.880 --> 1:51:25.160 kras One wrote it for me. So it was like 1:51:25.280 --> 1:51:27.120 I did that with Arrest that he wrote it was 1:51:27.200 --> 1:51:29.320 just like spit this and I was like okay. And 1:51:29.360 --> 1:51:31.000 then the next time Lance was like I want you 1:51:31.040 --> 1:51:32.320 to put you on. It was like, I want to 1:51:32.360 --> 1:51:34.920 put you on Ladies Night. And then I had to 1:51:35.000 --> 1:51:37.639 write a verse. Oh, I always thought that was your record. 1:51:37.800 --> 1:51:46.639 That was Kim's rick plenty tonight. Eight bars on the intro, 1:51:46.840 --> 1:51:48.760 that's all. I was like, you killed that, you killed it, 1:51:48.880 --> 1:51:51.960 Thank you you. I always thought it was your record, 1:51:53.080 --> 1:52:01.040 that's whatever you thought that was my record. Eight I 1:52:01.160 --> 1:52:03.600 was only on eight bars the intro. And then what 1:52:03.680 --> 1:52:05.800 what happened was because the other radio stations would hate 1:52:05.800 --> 1:52:08.200 because I was still on the air, the other radio 1:52:08.200 --> 1:52:10.519 stations would play the record without my eight bars, and 1:52:10.600 --> 1:52:12.679 I would be like, oh, that's some real sucker ship. 1:52:12.960 --> 1:52:15.400 Even z One hundred, like the big pop radio station 1:52:15.479 --> 1:52:17.759 at the time. I'm like, I'm not even your competition, 1:52:17.840 --> 1:52:19.920 your pop. Why you cut my first off? Why would 1:52:19.960 --> 1:52:22.320 you do that? Like Mad Stations did that? Of course 1:52:22.320 --> 1:52:23.840 the country that would cut my verse off of the 1:52:24.200 --> 1:52:26.519 song it skim song. And they put me on at 1:52:26.560 --> 1:52:27.880 the end, and I was happy to be there. I 1:52:27.920 --> 1:52:30.639 don't care. I traveled to the MTV Awards with them. 1:52:30.720 --> 1:52:32.400 I did. We got nominated for a Grammy. It was 1:52:32.560 --> 1:52:35.960 crazy or for eight bars my first date boars I 1:52:35.960 --> 1:52:43.479 ever broke. I got nominated for a Grammy with them, Angie. 1:52:43.760 --> 1:52:45.639 I just want you to know you're a super legend. 1:52:45.760 --> 1:52:48.639 You're a super queen in this game. Yeah, we love 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:53.720 you so much. Um your you represent hip hop. Ah, 1:52:54.560 --> 1:52:59.120 you represented how to do business. I swear to God 1:52:59.200 --> 1:53:02.720 like you and Floyd was the first people like I realized, like, 1:53:02.840 --> 1:53:06.479 you'll put yourself before the corporation and put your family 1:53:07.120 --> 1:53:10.280 before it, and and the thing about it is, I 1:53:10.400 --> 1:53:12.200 just want you to know you appreciated. I want you 1:53:12.280 --> 1:53:18.360 to know the dynamics when I thought of everyone's top five, Um, 1:53:18.640 --> 1:53:23.240 I've interviewed not one of them. You know, I'm only 1:53:23.320 --> 1:53:25.479 three years in this game. But when I think of 1:53:25.600 --> 1:53:29.760 everybody's top five, there's no one's list of top five 1:53:29.880 --> 1:53:33.519 that you haven't had. Like anybody name your top five? 1:53:34.320 --> 1:53:37.240 I don't know. You're a little wit. Come on the 1:53:37.320 --> 1:53:48.240 way you look at like Carros Yeah, yes, yes, yes, 1:53:48.280 --> 1:53:52.519 okay as four guy, name the top five? Four man, 1:53:54.040 --> 1:54:02.680 Bibe Daddy Lauren m. That's a very poor going on, 1:54:02.880 --> 1:54:08.439 especially people at night. By the way, yes, yes, yes, 1:54:08.479 --> 1:54:15.200 and yes the top tive what's your top five? Jay 1:54:15.320 --> 1:54:21.559 z Young? You're so Kendrick's in there? No, I haven't done. Kendrick. 1:54:24.240 --> 1:54:26.280 We almost had a camera on time. Okay, we got 1:54:26.360 --> 1:54:28.000 one more. That's the only way it was. Once or 1:54:28.040 --> 1:54:30.599 twice we were supposed to come over here, come over 1:54:30.680 --> 1:54:33.040 here and listen. I'm gonna be honest. When you gave 1:54:33.120 --> 1:54:36.080 me baby powder. By the way, Kendrick, it's time, Yeah, 1:54:37.120 --> 1:54:40.840 you gave me baby powder. Gotta say, I gotta say 1:54:40.880 --> 1:54:47.200 pot huh, I got too short? Easy, Mr Lee, they 1:54:47.280 --> 1:54:51.840 gotta go easy ease on your top five? And who else? Wait? 1:54:51.920 --> 1:54:55.720 What was the last two? Ain't both of them? I 1:54:55.760 --> 1:55:00.080 would take the easy? Yes, you interviewed easy? Wait? Did 1:55:00.080 --> 1:55:02.000 an interview easy? Because I wasn't not in the air 1:55:02.080 --> 1:55:07.800 yet but met Easy and partied with Easy and because 1:55:07.880 --> 1:55:10.000 he was I don't know how Steve Rifkin knew them 1:55:10.040 --> 1:55:11.960 or whatever. But when I was coming up and me 1:55:12.040 --> 1:55:13.720 and Steve wi cool and I don't know, we're in 1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:15.480 the party, introduced us and we all hung out. And 1:55:15.560 --> 1:55:18.240 then so it's funny because I still have a business. 1:55:18.360 --> 1:55:20.480 He must get Easy must have gave me his business card. 1:55:20.800 --> 1:55:23.160 I still have Easy East business card. Like that was 1:55:23.240 --> 1:55:29.800 a flaw. That was a flaw. Oh wait, I have 1:55:29.920 --> 1:55:35.200 Easy East business card. I have Branson's business card. Flaws. 1:55:35.400 --> 1:55:38.680 He had a business and it was like music industry executive. 1:55:38.800 --> 1:55:43.440 It is what it says. I had that. I have 1:55:43.560 --> 1:55:46.640 a pack of Newports that me and Pop smoke. I 1:55:46.720 --> 1:55:49.160 have had the box as like a couple of segarettes 1:55:49.160 --> 1:55:52.560 cement I have. I have like a couple of key 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:55.920 pieces of museum basically, how about the I have a 1:55:56.000 --> 1:55:58.440 couple of key little It's gonna go in Nazi's hip 1:55:58.480 --> 1:56:01.760 hop museum. You know naz Is. I love he's doing that. Yeah, 1:56:03.000 --> 1:56:06.120 I got a few pieces. Look at the time, you 1:56:06.160 --> 1:56:08.720 got the new points that you smoke prop okay, I 1:56:08.880 --> 1:56:12.160 the Newport lights on Newport regulars. Alright, I need to 1:56:12.240 --> 1:56:15.840 know that he didn't know what type and these he 1:56:15.960 --> 1:56:19.360 smoke lights. I was going a different opinion and it 1:56:19.480 --> 1:56:22.320 had like one turned over. Oh he had a wish, 1:56:23.160 --> 1:56:26.680 you had a wish? Holy Ship was a real nigga? Okay, 1:56:27.360 --> 1:56:31.600 this is yeah, That's that's all I needed. That's all 1:56:31.680 --> 1:56:38.040 I needed. So, uh, what's the worst moment? Why I 1:56:38.120 --> 1:56:39.800 keep little things like that when I feel like it's 1:56:39.840 --> 1:56:42.840 a moment, like even when like I had the little 1:56:43.040 --> 1:56:44.720 thing that Chris Brown wants did on a piece of 1:56:44.720 --> 1:56:47.160 paper like a piece of art. When Takashi six nine 1:56:47.200 --> 1:56:48.840 was on my show, he was explaining to me the 1:56:48.920 --> 1:56:52.760 meaning of six nine because it wasn't what I expected, 1:56:53.280 --> 1:56:55.800 And so he took a piece of paper and he 1:56:55.880 --> 1:56:58.000 wrote the number six on it right, and he was 1:56:58.080 --> 1:57:00.360 like what do you see? And I was like six 1:57:00.640 --> 1:57:02.960 And he was like what do you see now? I 1:57:03.040 --> 1:57:05.320 was like nine and he was like, see, you just 1:57:05.400 --> 1:57:09.760 saw something from two different perspectives, um. And he talked 1:57:09.800 --> 1:57:12.879 about how you could see somebody who does a robbery 1:57:13.320 --> 1:57:15.520 and you could look at them and say, oh, he's terrible, 1:57:15.520 --> 1:57:16.960 he's a criminal, but if you flip it and you 1:57:17.040 --> 1:57:18.640 see them in a different way. You can see this 1:57:18.760 --> 1:57:21.200 is a father who's trying to feed this kid. I'm 1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:24.160 paraphrasing the story, but it was about being able to 1:57:24.200 --> 1:57:25.760 see people in different ways. And I thought it was 1:57:26.080 --> 1:57:30.080 so dope and interesting that I I kept a napkin. 1:57:30.200 --> 1:57:32.080 I kept a little napkin where he wrote the six 1:57:32.160 --> 1:57:34.320 of the nine because I thought this was like I felt, 1:57:34.440 --> 1:57:37.040 and I just felt in that moment. So I just 1:57:37.040 --> 1:57:38.320 found it the other day. I was like, oh, this 1:57:38.480 --> 1:57:39.960 is the sixth time napkin, and I put it with 1:57:40.040 --> 1:57:41.280 my other stuff and I kept it. But I have 1:57:41.400 --> 1:57:43.040 like little things like that that I'll keep if I 1:57:43.120 --> 1:57:45.840 feel like it's a moment. You ain't got anything from 1:57:45.920 --> 1:57:47.680 Joe to see for some reason, I feel like you got, 1:57:47.760 --> 1:57:56.600 like Joe Joe something. Let me just he has a 1:57:56.680 --> 1:58:03.040 tennis ball from Caress one from shot six three Carros 1:58:03.160 --> 1:58:07.400 when first came here. He has a ninety two and 1:58:07.520 --> 1:58:10.880 my mind is eight tennis ball with a signature on it. 1:58:11.600 --> 1:58:15.320 At the party party and who remembers that he has 1:58:15.360 --> 1:58:17.240 a tennis ball. I brought it to him on the 1:58:17.280 --> 1:58:19.480 interview him on the show. That's the craziest thing, all right, 1:58:19.560 --> 1:58:21.440 this isn't my song calling I have to dance, Okay, 1:58:21.520 --> 1:58:23.720 on here, you want me to, Well, I'm not gonna 1:58:23.720 --> 1:58:27.000 do that. Okay, yeah, hey baby, this is this is 1:58:27.120 --> 1:58:31.920 this is different. Okay, we're here. We're riding up right now. 1:58:32.080 --> 1:58:36.640 Mama's coming up to it. This is mama ship. She's 1:58:36.680 --> 1:58:41.800 she's a chance. Mommyya okay, I'm on my way back up. 1:58:41.840 --> 1:58:47.600 See in a few minutes, I killed that mommy, Ona. 1:58:49.000 --> 1:58:50.840 I had to pick up with my kid. That's that. 1:58:51.040 --> 1:58:56.720 So let's let's take some lor I think I think 1:58:56.760 --> 1:58:59.880 you were sitting down with us. So is there anything 1:59:00.000 --> 1:59:04.000 you want the people to know before you leave? When 1:59:04.040 --> 1:59:06.240 did that book come up? You got two books? You 1:59:06.320 --> 1:59:09.000 got two books. I do have to one about healthy 1:59:09.080 --> 1:59:12.840 Latin thing, cooking and eating what I did. But then 1:59:12.880 --> 1:59:15.160 I have my memoir, which is that was like a 1:59:15.240 --> 1:59:18.840 real book book, A long time to write, like I 1:59:18.840 --> 1:59:20.520 would do it again. I'm right, I'm actually in the 1:59:20.600 --> 1:59:23.160 process I probably shouldn't say this yet, but in the 1:59:23.240 --> 1:59:28.720 process of writing changing the book to a script Healthy 1:59:28.760 --> 1:59:35.800 Latin make a script book. I want to be in 1:59:35.840 --> 1:59:37.880 a movie, like I want to try to eat healthy too, 1:59:39.200 --> 1:59:44.839 the movie we would together. That's right. I was very awkward. 1:59:45.040 --> 1:59:47.760 I was Tuesday. He was Tuesday, very okay because like 1:59:48.400 --> 1:59:52.800 like we have developed his brother's just the like relationship. 1:59:53.240 --> 1:59:56.240 And then Dame we're in this movie. It's like, okay, 1:59:57.040 --> 2:00:00.680 getting the band together. I was like, well, I'm not 2:00:00.720 --> 2:00:05.200 I don't believing I'm wearing a rod. I'm not wearing 2:00:05.200 --> 2:00:11.320 a rock. We're gonna do that. He perfect, And we 2:00:11.440 --> 2:00:14.360 also did paper soldiers as well o paper soldiers. That's right. 2:00:14.800 --> 2:00:17.160 Let me ask you something, and I'll probably see a 2:00:17.240 --> 2:00:20.560 role for you in the movie. Let me ask you 2:00:20.640 --> 2:00:24.200 this a promise. It's probably be the next last question. Okay, 2:00:28.040 --> 2:00:30.200 didn't you ever think that Rock and Feller, like when 2:00:30.240 --> 2:00:33.400 you see like you know, Dame and Jay, was that 2:00:33.560 --> 2:00:38.000 you ever thought that you would see it here? Now? No, 2:00:38.120 --> 2:00:40.200 I don't even think anybody could. How could anybody see that? 2:00:40.680 --> 2:00:42.960 But you I definitely could feel that. It was not 2:00:43.120 --> 2:00:45.080 like anything else, like how they were moving and the 2:00:45.360 --> 2:00:49.200 ship they were talking and you know, and the big 2:00:49.360 --> 2:00:51.960 vision that they always had. Dame was always like we 2:00:52.040 --> 2:00:55.600 could do that ourselves. I could do that. I could honestly, 2:00:55.680 --> 2:00:58.240 that was very like influential to me. Like I don't 2:00:58.240 --> 2:00:59.840 know if I even give Dame enough credit for that 2:01:00.000 --> 2:01:05.080 because watching him make those movies. Never had megan movies before, 2:01:05.080 --> 2:01:07.520 and he was like, we know the culture better than 2:01:07.760 --> 2:01:09.520 anybody else. We don't make our own movies. That was 2:01:09.720 --> 2:01:13.400 really like inspiring to me and made me see but 2:01:13.480 --> 2:01:15.320 it made me see things in a different way, like 2:01:15.880 --> 2:01:19.440 it's possible, but by the way, it's all possible. But 2:01:19.680 --> 2:01:21.520 you know, that was like and there was there was 2:01:21.560 --> 2:01:23.520 good to me too. I remember we did um you know, 2:01:23.560 --> 2:01:25.720 I was supposed to do American Idol one year. It 2:01:25.840 --> 2:01:28.280 was the first one. What happened with? What the funk? 2:01:28.320 --> 2:01:30.120 I do? Remember that? Is it true that you just 2:01:30.160 --> 2:01:33.000 didn't like turning down? I was very uncomfortable. The whole 2:01:33.000 --> 2:01:34.640 thing was really weird, and they wanted me to be 2:01:35.000 --> 2:01:39.120 this likely and I just was like I just wasn't 2:01:39.120 --> 2:01:40.680 feeling the whole. I can't be telling a lot of 2:01:40.720 --> 2:01:42.280 people they whack in their face. I can tell you 2:01:42.440 --> 2:01:45.640 whack behind your back, but like like a I don't 2:01:45.640 --> 2:01:47.560 want to hate to hurt nobody feelings in the face, 2:01:48.240 --> 2:01:52.240 so that you was going to be the latter didn't 2:01:52.240 --> 2:01:55.400 wanted me to be somewhat like that and I which 2:01:55.440 --> 2:01:57.320 just wasn't me. And I was also pregnant at the time, 2:01:57.360 --> 2:02:00.360 which they didn't know, so I was already emotional about it. Whatever. 2:02:00.480 --> 2:02:01.960 But anyway, I'll tell you why I didn't do it 2:02:02.000 --> 2:02:03.400 in the first place. But when I got there, I 2:02:03.520 --> 2:02:05.840 needed stuff I needed. Like we were doing the runs. 2:02:06.120 --> 2:02:07.520 I went out with them on the road the first 2:02:07.560 --> 2:02:09.760 couple of days we did the Trials of the Earth 2:02:09.800 --> 2:02:12.520 and whatever, and I had hit Dame because you know, 2:02:12.680 --> 2:02:14.400 rock Boy was popping. I was like, damn, I need 2:02:14.480 --> 2:02:16.960 a box of clothes. I'm doing this thing for American 2:02:17.040 --> 2:02:20.160 I know. He was like what what he gave me? 2:02:20.280 --> 2:02:23.720 This whole lecture about this is great for you. You 2:02:23.760 --> 2:02:25.400 should do it, but you know you're gonna be around 2:02:25.440 --> 2:02:27.600 those people. You're just gonna move fast. People are gonna 2:02:27.640 --> 2:02:30.440 try to get you to change, keep people, keep the 2:02:30.560 --> 2:02:34.040 same people around you, because if you go into hollywooden 2:02:34.080 --> 2:02:35.800 you start doing that, you're gonna change. Don't let people 2:02:35.880 --> 2:02:38.560 change you, keep keep. And it just stayed with me, 2:02:38.720 --> 2:02:41.360 like make sure you keep people around you that keep 2:02:41.400 --> 2:02:43.560 you who you are, that you don't get lost in 2:02:43.640 --> 2:02:45.640 the whole other world. And like he let gave me 2:02:45.800 --> 2:02:48.120 like a lecture on it that always stayed with me also, 2:02:48.400 --> 2:02:51.600 but kind of Mr leea sonny around and up. Yeah, 2:02:53.120 --> 2:02:55.160 take your cups into the back there, because you know 2:02:55.280 --> 2:02:57.040 Mr Lee will bring your cup in the bathroom and 2:02:57.120 --> 2:03:00.520 Sunny will break your right. But listen, listen what happens 2:03:00.560 --> 2:03:03.840 to people, right, Even rappers are artists. You You you 2:03:03.960 --> 2:03:07.000 come from a certain place, you you're handling yourself a 2:03:07.000 --> 2:03:08.200 certain way, and then all of a sudden you get 2:03:08.200 --> 2:03:10.280 these opportunities and these other spaces, and all of a 2:03:10.280 --> 2:03:13.320 sudden you're around people got are not from where you're from, 2:03:13.560 --> 2:03:15.280 and then all a sudden the changes your perspective and 2:03:15.320 --> 2:03:18.120 you start moving the front. I get that, and so 2:03:18.320 --> 2:03:22.280 it's important to keep people around you that it's not 2:03:22.440 --> 2:03:24.800 just to stay grounded, but it's yeah, I guess, stay 2:03:24.840 --> 2:03:27.840 grounded and give you that right perspective. And if you 2:03:27.920 --> 2:03:30.920 can't lose it, you could lose yourself if when you 2:03:31.040 --> 2:03:33.040 get too certain. And I watched it, I've seen it 2:03:33.120 --> 2:03:35.600 happened to many people. I know, many famous people, and 2:03:35.680 --> 2:03:39.080 I watched many famous people float off into this world 2:03:39.160 --> 2:03:42.800 and they're gone, and I just I don't know. I 2:03:42.840 --> 2:03:45.480 thought that was just dope advice. And he cared so 2:03:45.640 --> 2:03:47.200 much the way he gave it to me. That I 2:03:47.360 --> 2:03:49.160 just always you know what I mean. I appreciated that 2:03:49.240 --> 2:03:52.800 as anybody ever been. Anybody like fronted on you and 2:03:53.000 --> 2:03:56.160 then they got and then they like they got go 2:03:56.280 --> 2:03:59.760 washed up and you was happy about it, like fun 2:04:00.000 --> 2:04:06.120 ever happy about it. I went to Allah. I'm in 2:04:06.240 --> 2:04:09.200 completely have cases because you know how many people see 2:04:09.280 --> 2:04:11.520 come and come and go. You know, they've been looking 2:04:11.560 --> 2:04:13.000 at me like I don't know waft and they're like 2:04:13.080 --> 2:04:15.880 the old man. I'm like, they're not alone man, and 2:04:15.960 --> 2:04:19.920 then they'll say alright, cool and then they didn't man that. Yeah, 2:04:20.000 --> 2:04:22.680 they got their go fronts. But here's what's whack. You 2:04:22.720 --> 2:04:25.520 don't ever want to karma is I believe in karma, right, 2:04:25.600 --> 2:04:28.760 So somebody does me something dirty, I go, you hold that, 2:04:29.160 --> 2:04:31.360 you hold that karma. I'm gonna go keep it pushing 2:04:31.400 --> 2:04:32.960 and try to do what I had to do. But 2:04:33.040 --> 2:04:36.040 when the karma comes, because it always comes, I make 2:04:36.120 --> 2:04:40.760 sure that I don't rejoice and whatever, because that's because 2:04:40.760 --> 2:04:42.760 they're not bringing me back into it. And I see 2:04:42.800 --> 2:04:44.960 that with people happen. You don't spike the ball when 2:04:45.000 --> 2:04:46.440 you see something like now, I don't do it. I 2:04:46.480 --> 2:04:49.840 don't do it because sometimes I do. I'm I'm very like, 2:04:50.080 --> 2:04:52.560 sometimes I'm very particular about my energy just going on 2:04:52.640 --> 2:04:54.720 certain people Instagram, but like, all right, he's still hurting 2:04:55.040 --> 2:05:01.760 that that's cool stuff. Ain't get up at all. Yeah, 2:05:01.880 --> 2:05:03.600 Sometimes to do it, i'd be fair, I'll be afraid 2:05:03.640 --> 2:05:06.000 of God. I'm afraid to have those type of thoughts 2:05:06.000 --> 2:05:08.200 because I feel like God see me, and he'd be like, 2:05:08.280 --> 2:05:10.120 oh really, no, I don't have those thoughts. But I 2:05:10.240 --> 2:05:15.560 look and I say, Okay, that's a that's not just 2:05:15.640 --> 2:05:18.920 the thought, it's an action. It's too bad things. I've 2:05:18.920 --> 2:05:21.360 been afraid to let myself go into a negative place 2:05:21.440 --> 2:05:23.000 like that because I feel like I will be punished 2:05:23.040 --> 2:05:24.640 for that. I feel like then Mike Carment is gonna 2:05:24.680 --> 2:05:26.880 come back to me. So I'm very careful about that. 2:05:27.440 --> 2:05:29.840 So I just let people we have their thing. And 2:05:29.960 --> 2:05:31.920 sometimes I have a problem with somebody and somebody come 2:05:31.960 --> 2:05:34.160 back around and be like, you see what's happened to them? 2:05:34.240 --> 2:05:36.200 Now that's what they get, And I'm like, don't please, 2:05:36.240 --> 2:05:38.080 don't bring that, don't bring that on again to me. 2:05:38.560 --> 2:05:43.080 This happened recently. But you do that. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, 2:05:43.680 --> 2:05:51.080 you heard what happening, right, I told that's me helping me. Honest. Yeah, 2:05:51.600 --> 2:05:54.120 I'm sorry, I'm pretty but you know, you know, you 2:05:54.160 --> 2:05:56.880 know what got me like like, I have to start 2:05:56.960 --> 2:06:02.160 realizing that sometimes you just gotta be petty. Listen, out 2:06:02.240 --> 2:06:06.840 of out of how many seconds of the day there is, 2:06:07.200 --> 2:06:10.080 you allowed twelve seconds to hate. That's a lie in 2:06:10.200 --> 2:06:15.560 the particulars twelve seconds to hate on some ship, only 2:06:15.600 --> 2:06:18.320 twelve seconds to day. You guess what's gonna happen to you? 2:06:18.440 --> 2:06:23.000 Twelve this seconds. It's gonna come back to yours at 2:06:23.080 --> 2:06:25.240 some point. No, that's why it's twelve seconds. You just 2:06:25.280 --> 2:06:30.360 get awad of it. You never think about it scientific 2:06:30.560 --> 2:06:32.280 like how did you come up with that number? That's 2:06:32.280 --> 2:06:35.120 how I called it. Called it blow blow fucking, blow fucking, 2:06:35.480 --> 2:06:42.200 blow fucking and just just seconds. Nobody at home take 2:06:42.280 --> 2:06:45.120 this advice. This is terrible advice. No, I definitely didn't 2:06:45.120 --> 2:06:46.840 tell them to take my advice, and I'll tell them 2:06:46.880 --> 2:06:49.760 this is just mine. I like to go to Costcoles 2:06:49.920 --> 2:06:54.000 a piece of ship for twelve You allowed twelve seconds 2:06:54.040 --> 2:06:56.840 to be allowed. No, no, no, no, I'm not telling 2:06:56.880 --> 2:06:59.360 you to like to put you on Twitter, not telling 2:06:59.360 --> 2:07:01.680 you to put it on social media. I'm saying twelve sex, 2:07:01.720 --> 2:07:04.520 and you're like, if you want to sit because my 2:07:04.640 --> 2:07:09.280 man right there, he got on George. Right, he has George. 2:07:10.240 --> 2:07:15.320 We got to talk George. Like George jeans shorts. Now 2:07:15.480 --> 2:07:18.400 in New York, those are got shorts. Those are George. 2:07:19.680 --> 2:07:25.280 George short pants. It's called George. They're short pants in 2:07:25.400 --> 2:07:28.440 New York. And in New York they're frowned upon. You are. 2:07:31.480 --> 2:07:34.760 So that's my mind. In my mind, when I looked 2:07:34.800 --> 2:07:40.120 at this George, I like him as a person.