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Speaker 1: That's it's time for drink Champ. Drink up mother, Mother. Hey,
Speaker 1: Hank San Green, hope you sat via, it's your boy
Speaker 1: in R. What up is d j e FN And
Speaker 1: this is Drake Champs, motherfucker? Yeah yeah, right now. When
Speaker 1: we started this show, we said we wanted to end
Speaker 1: it you legends, and right now this person in front
Speaker 1: of us is not only a media legend, she is
Speaker 1: a radio legends. She is a hip hop historian. She's
Speaker 1: probably one of the only people who've got to interview
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls, Tupac Nas and Jason. She got the Floyd
Speaker 1: may Rather of radio contracts. She she uh was raised
Speaker 1: out in Brooken, but lived out in Queens, loved out Quezer,
Speaker 1: was raised out in Brooke. At one point. She has
Speaker 1: constantly stayed on top. If you will need to get hot,
Speaker 1: you need to get your point. Of course, you gotta
Speaker 1: come see her or you're nobody. You're to come under
Speaker 1: the table. If you don't, if you don't, gotta Anti
Speaker 1: Martinez Classic interview, you're the gume under the table. No
Speaker 1: one really likes you. I just want to do that
Speaker 1: out there. If you don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: your mother wanted only to that. Now. Now, you were
Speaker 1: predestined to be who you are. Your mother worked in radio.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm so happy to be here. By
Speaker 1: the way, I have some criticisms. Early criticism is what
Speaker 1: I've been trying not to host it. I would like
Speaker 1: to jot from my Dominican friends. Trying to take your
Speaker 1: drink to the bathroom. It was it was happening. We
Speaker 1: were not wrong at that moment. And then I went
Speaker 1: to use direction. I can tell you don't have that
Speaker 1: many girls here. It was up. You left the toilet
Speaker 1: seat up. There was no like paper tie was to clean.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a guy's bathroom. You know
Speaker 1: what I noticed about, Like guys and girls use the
Speaker 1: same bathroom, but the girls you guys won't let your
Speaker 1: y'all just piss on the toilet. You want to let
Speaker 1: that ship touch you all, just right out these things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're perfect squatters. I'm gonna get you like but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna add to the drink champs. Okay, get
Speaker 1: you a candle and some hand to hand. We only
Speaker 1: had we only had four girls on drink Chaps. We
Speaker 1: had amberos. This is the third solo angela Ye. This
Speaker 1: is a third third song. Then you came because um
Speaker 1: angela Ye came would envy within me and then I
Speaker 1: tried to want to let me because we want to think.
Speaker 1: We wanted. We want to get you because you're important.
Speaker 1: So let's gonna let you be. Okay, you really do
Speaker 1: have a whole and you drink that's all because you
Speaker 1: don't even have an just for the drink, Mr Granade,
Speaker 1: I was drinking whole line you might appreciate. Okay, So
Speaker 1: so moms is working at radio, so you you get
Speaker 1: the urge from that. No, I'm a baby, I'm you know.
Speaker 1: My mother was like, I come from one of those
Speaker 1: families where you know your mom's was trying to get
Speaker 1: out of certain situations. So my whole family lived uptown.
Speaker 1: They lived in Washington Heights. My mother took me just
Speaker 1: to Puerto Ricans and your mom's Cuban to right. My
Speaker 1: mother is Cuban. Puerto Rican and Dominican uptown. So where
Speaker 1: my family's uptown from Whington, Washington Heights and would Washington
Speaker 1: Heights right, So if you know anything about New York
Speaker 1: and from New York, you know that my mother took
Speaker 1: me the first. My whole family is up there. Tool said,
Speaker 1: the stop is like two D the same and whatever,
Speaker 1: we have to take the train. She moved us to Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: but not just Brooklyn like the last stop on the train,
Speaker 1: like by Coney Island, but the Warriors where they ended up.
Speaker 1: That's where we were. So me and my mother moved
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn and my whole family, the rest of my
Speaker 1: family was because my mother was trying to find a way,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So she got a job.
Speaker 1: Um first that PolyGram record. She was like a reception
Speaker 1: intern receptionist there, and then she worked away to radio
Speaker 1: and she she was never on the air. She was
Speaker 1: like you know, she worked off behind the scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I grew up hearing conversations about radio. I always
Speaker 1: saw that story. My mother was like I remember her
Speaker 1: talking about radio jocks, like people on the air, and
Speaker 1: she was complaining about somebody that he loved the sound
Speaker 1: of his own voice, and she was saying she hated
Speaker 1: people who just loved the sound of their own voice,
Speaker 1: like they just want to talk, to be talking. And
Speaker 1: I always remember that even later, like when I would
Speaker 1: be on the air, like to make sure that I'm
Speaker 1: not just talking for myself, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm like, yeah, it was real,
Speaker 1: stay with me. So I grew up in that type
Speaker 1: of environment. I got the book from that. And then
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen, she was coming up in her career.
Speaker 1: She had been a music director. She got me an
Speaker 1: internship at the radio station, and then I got an
Speaker 1: internship at hot I was eighteen, and then I just
Speaker 1: grew up there. That was like where I grew up
Speaker 1: at the Rags. Let me stop you there, because let
Speaker 1: me just let me just tell you something. Now, this
Speaker 1: is completely not rehearsed. Who's your top five top mcs
Speaker 1: of all times? Is such a random just just say
Speaker 1: like rock, game, nas ice, cute, big, big punk? Does it?
Speaker 1: Does it scare you that like almost everybody's top five.
Speaker 1: You probably interviewed, Does it scare me? No, I think
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I think it's amazing too. But literally, like
Speaker 1: when I said that just now, like giving your intro,
Speaker 1: and I thought about it, like People's Top five, jay
Speaker 1: Z is in People's Top five, Nass and People Top five,
Speaker 1: Bigg's and people Top five Tupart and you literally yeah,
Speaker 1: you literally, yeah, that's amazing. I'm super grateful. Just hit
Speaker 1: me just now when I said that, it's not changing
Speaker 1: because you're still in the business. That's what That's probably
Speaker 1: what I'm more proud of is that I could sit
Speaker 1: down across from us generation somebody. Now, last week I
Speaker 1: did like blue Face and I saw that, and you know,
Speaker 1: I had a really big interview with Takashi before he
Speaker 1: went away for you asked him if you know how
Speaker 1: to wrap it? He said no, he admitted, But I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed that interview. But that's probably what I'm most
Speaker 1: proud of is that, yes, I had those like classic moments,
Speaker 1: and I was lucky enough to come up at a
Speaker 1: time when Jamie started his career. You know, Nahas was
Speaker 1: around in Wu Tang I probably you know all those
Speaker 1: all those artists were coming up while I was coming up.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question what I thought was
Speaker 1: very interesting one time, Elliot, I'm still proud of your
Speaker 1: Yes'm I'm trying. I'm trying to get down so one time,
Speaker 1: you know when I started to want to do this
Speaker 1: is not terrible, No, that's it is good, that the
Speaker 1: entire line. So I remember reading Elliott Wilson one day
Speaker 1: and he said that he had to come to the
Speaker 1: realization that, you know, he didn't want to be friends
Speaker 1: with these artists because he didn't want that's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's friends with Matt No. No, I know that now,
Speaker 1: but this is back in the day where he had
Speaker 1: to realize that he was not only a fan of whole,
Speaker 1: but then he was also a friend. So he had
Speaker 1: to like to do that. And then you ever have
Speaker 1: to like Charlemagne and I have that conversation because Charlemagne
Speaker 1: came up under Wendy, Yes, And Wendy was always like,
Speaker 1: you can't be friends with the artists. You have to
Speaker 1: be and I was always like, it's not about what
Speaker 1: your friends like. I'm not anti artist or anti listener
Speaker 1: or anti fan like I'm pro culture, pro the culture right.
Speaker 1: So I never subscribed to that, Like we're all people,
Speaker 1: we're all trying to do right by the culture. So
Speaker 1: I never really got that theory of like you can't
Speaker 1: be friends yet you can be friends, doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: can't tell your friend I was white, what you did,
Speaker 1: or or how are we gonna move past that? You
Speaker 1: want my best right? So I never really subscribed to
Speaker 1: you can't be friends with That's probably the problem. Not
Speaker 1: everybody is for the culture pro culture there are thinking
Speaker 1: in a different way. They're trying to get got you
Speaker 1: questions and being journalists and that kind of way. I know.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that's the time way in now you trying to
Speaker 1: do that with me right now, I'm just kidding. We
Speaker 1: we way. You gave me a big to tell you too.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what we did. What we did
Speaker 1: was we wanted to um. You know, so many times
Speaker 1: you get ten years in this game, they kick you
Speaker 1: right out of here, they call you washed up, they
Speaker 1: say you whatever, whatever. And I wanted to um. We
Speaker 1: we wanted to give a platform the people that got
Speaker 1: these ten years. And and it's Asian like wine, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because you have ten years, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're washed up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is Vince Carter is going on. It's like twenty
Speaker 1: third season, you know what I'm saying. And I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: so were was the platform for us in the hip hop.
Speaker 1: So this is what we want to do. We want
Speaker 1: to give people their flowers. Like you know, John Singleton
Speaker 1: had just passed away, and I actually had footage of us,
Speaker 1: you know, saying to him, you know, we love you, brother,
Speaker 1: you know everything you did was great. So we want
Speaker 1: to do the same thing for you as we want
Speaker 1: to let you know how dope you are, how you
Speaker 1: had one of the most craziest interviews because I remember, Um,
Speaker 1: I remember New York kind of felt bad, like felt
Speaker 1: not bad, um felt confused because at one point when
Speaker 1: Park and Big was going through it, like when Pop
Speaker 1: said a certain thing, it was like it was on.
Speaker 1: And then did you actually fly to Cali to get
Speaker 1: the two part interview? Oh yeah, definitely. Was that the
Speaker 1: Bay area or that was actually it was his house.
Speaker 1: It was that went to his apartment and shot it
Speaker 1: and we didn't shoot it was people always think I
Speaker 1: have this pocket videos just we took a couple of pictures,
Speaker 1: but it's just audio. It was like me by myself
Speaker 1: with like a little machine like this big and a
Speaker 1: microphone like yourself. Yeah, excuse me, like in a room
Speaker 1: with probably more people than this. I never traveled to
Speaker 1: the West Coast. I'm twenty something years old. It's my
Speaker 1: first big interview, you know. He says at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the interview, he says, we gotta be wealthy. Hip
Speaker 1: hop got to be wealthy. Got no more like no
Speaker 1: more performing in coffee shops, Like we need money because
Speaker 1: we need to change these goods. Like he had great ideas,
Speaker 1: like We're not gonna listen, you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do probably be a good interview. So I go on
Speaker 1: and listen to it, and he's what he said was
Speaker 1: like what Nipsey was doing. That's kind of like like
Speaker 1: it was, well, those are seeds of anything. That's a
Speaker 1: great point. You know. I never got to interview. You
Speaker 1: never got to interview. We did on the phone. We
Speaker 1: did this brief interview on the phone, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: glad I had that because I at least told him
Speaker 1: that I thought he was dope and his energy was
Speaker 1: so great, you know, we had a brief thing and
Speaker 1: we showed each other in a lot of love, and
Speaker 1: then I would cross his path because he was with
Speaker 1: rock Nation, some rock Nation, a bunch of stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's just one of those moments where you take, you know,
Speaker 1: just you take that for granted. Like I was always like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna and I knew it was going to be dope,
Speaker 1: Like I knew when we said it was gonna be dope,
Speaker 1: but I didn't push, you know. I regret that my mother,
Speaker 1: my mother asked me. She said, UM, sorry, I made
Speaker 1: this impression of my mother, but I do it. Let's
Speaker 1: hear it, baby. Um a favor said, okay, mom, what
Speaker 1: you want? Said? I want to meet somebody? So I'm
Speaker 1: figuring that my mom's want to meet Michael Jackson. I like,
Speaker 1: she want to meet fucking you know, Lina Richie. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, who do you want to meet? She's like,
Speaker 1: big pun. I'm like, that's my best friend. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. You'll get to meet them. And I pulled
Speaker 1: it off for almost years and he died and he's
Speaker 1: going to be around forever. If nothing else that we
Speaker 1: learned from moments like that, it's like to take what
Speaker 1: I love what I loved it that I see happening
Speaker 1: now since Nipsey passed, especially, I see people showing each
Speaker 1: other lout. Yeah, I see other rappers saying other rappers
Speaker 1: that speech. I thought it that was dope. It like
Speaker 1: we always do what said, you know, let's show people
Speaker 1: their flowers while they when we started that, Okay, that's good,
Speaker 1: that's good as the time I'm good and it's okay,
Speaker 1: you can take you get to whatever. But he's also big.
Speaker 1: I think Schoolboy Que had done an he and he
Speaker 1: biged up Drake and saying Drake should be people should
Speaker 1: give Drake legendary status already at this point, and so
Speaker 1: I guess he said all these nice things about Drake,
Speaker 1: and then Drake took the moment during his speech at
Speaker 1: this big Awards to say thank you. You know, like
Speaker 1: what was dope is that he actually was honest and
Speaker 1: said that he second guest if he should reach out
Speaker 1: to Schoolboy Q and thank him, and then he's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: and he just well, good looking Drake is you also
Speaker 1: shout out a left frack city and all these little
Speaker 1: girls and boys are you know, are excited because you
Speaker 1: know his trainer is Hollywood. He knows he's from Left
Speaker 1: Rack and he he did that. We'll play the clip
Speaker 1: you know has hopefully you got that so big that
Speaker 1: up man? You know? Do you think the reason why
Speaker 1: they don't give Drake his props is because of the
Speaker 1: ghost writing thing? If we're being honest, I feel like
Speaker 1: every rapper like you collaborate with people. You got people
Speaker 1: around you in the studio. I mean even I hear
Speaker 1: stories about Big being in the studio and Little Seeds
Speaker 1: would say a joke and Big will turn it into
Speaker 1: a song. Done that everything. Yeah, and we literally took that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know to what level. But you
Speaker 1: can't front that drinks, I mean what Like I just
Speaker 1: feel like, and I know there's people that are purists
Speaker 1: that like you got write every mar you guys, but
Speaker 1: I think people use it as it's an excuse because
Speaker 1: I think people for some reason just don't want to
Speaker 1: give it up to the dude. I think maybe because
Speaker 1: he's too nice, or he's too I don't know what successful,
Speaker 1: you know, just like wait, wait, he's what he's too
Speaker 1: light skinned when he wears too many sweaters, you think,
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure. I don't know what is it?
Speaker 1: You can't front out of him, like what I can't.
Speaker 1: But I think that's a success side of it, that
Speaker 1: that draws out attention. He's a nice he's a nice
Speaker 1: guy man, and he cares about the culture. You can
Speaker 1: what don't you you have a problem with you have
Speaker 1: something I don't know. I don't know produces. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got it all wrong. Yeah, you asked me
Speaker 1: that in your enneverybody ever does. I'm the one. I'm
Speaker 1: the one. I don't know. The thing about it is, it's, um,
Speaker 1: I know he would never do drink champs. And because
Speaker 1: because that irritates you, I'm not irritated at all, because
Speaker 1: it's like, um, certain people. I want to control the environment,
Speaker 1: and I like we almost turned down Will Smith. Like
Speaker 1: he didn't. It's not like Will Smith said yeah, but
Speaker 1: Will it was like, yeah, we can't do the smoking thing.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, I want to control
Speaker 1: my environment. I learned that from Leo Colm's right, Leo
Speaker 1: comes back in the days Wait, Will Smith said he
Speaker 1: want to do do the show if he's I don't know,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the people. Will Smith's people's
Speaker 1: Before we got to Worlds like, yo, you know he'll
Speaker 1: do it, but just you can't smoke. And the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, while you come and we're not smoke,
Speaker 1: we don't want you to give us those rules. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because it's actually my show and
Speaker 1: this is our show. Excuse me, and you know what
Speaker 1: I say. Minds, I say us, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But you know what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: like I don't want I don't want the essence of
Speaker 1: this to go away. This is this is praising hip hop. Now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Will we take a Will Smith
Speaker 1: for interview? Of course we did it with Luke, but
Speaker 1: Luke didn't tell us not to smoke. Luke was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know you know Luke Luke Scott woke up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so and we didn't want you to smoke. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: because he has he children, he's doing political stuff thinking
Speaker 1: he was running for Maya and got a lot of
Speaker 1: nerves drink drink with us drinking. He didn't want the weed.
Speaker 1: Who knows that the thing was he told us that,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, so you know, we just want
Speaker 1: to keep this to the to the to the essence,
Speaker 1: because that's the reason why we don't interview new guys right,
Speaker 1: So the way, So if Drake, let's go back, like
Speaker 1: how you taking over? I go take Drake. Not doing
Speaker 1: drink Champs makes you feel away? No it doesn't. To
Speaker 1: take the truth. No, no, let me tell you what happened. Um,
Speaker 1: here's exactly what happened. I was on my squashed beef run.
Speaker 1: You had to be for him before you know. I
Speaker 1: was on my squash beef one meaning fat Joe have
Speaker 1: reached out to me because I just spoke to Jay
Speaker 1: z all some ship and you know I spoke about it,
Speaker 1: so Joe knew. Joe is a close friend of mine.
Speaker 1: So Joe calls me squashed the beef with um, well,
Speaker 1: I put him in the right direction. I sent him
Speaker 1: to listen, just hit bleak will make it happen. So
Speaker 1: bleak Joe calls bleak whatever all the way up happens
Speaker 1: Joe more rotten nations. So I want my right. So
Speaker 1: you're fairy con and like actually works. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: like Joe calls, He's like, Yo, it's actually gonna do
Speaker 1: the first Joe calls his own corner sides. So what
Speaker 1: happens is what happens is over your forty, who is
Speaker 1: um Drink's producer over forty. Me and him been cool
Speaker 1: since he did an article on the Vibe magazine and
Speaker 1: they said who's his favorite artist? And he says, nor,
Speaker 1: I like, what the funk out of here? Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? If that's weird to me? So
Speaker 1: me and him starting a relationship, and you know, we
Speaker 1: just didn't drink chance with DMX, so he's no one
Speaker 1: can get any contact with dm Mexican cant too. So
Speaker 1: Obio forty calls me and says, yo, we know that
Speaker 1: DMX hates us because remember dmxic the Breakface Club interview
Speaker 1: was like I hate drink, I hate I hate these
Speaker 1: light skin, I hate his haircut. I hated saying that right,
Speaker 1: so so so so OI all reached out to me
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, you know, we don't think he
Speaker 1: likes us, but we know that you're cool them. Can
Speaker 1: you can we maybe squashing? So I reach out to the
Speaker 1: the DMX and I'm like, yo, you're not gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: like get them the phone crazy He's like, so I
Speaker 1: hug up the call again. I just hook it up
Speaker 1: and I get out of it. So that's where all is.
Speaker 1: So people might think that Drake owes me a favor
Speaker 1: for that. I don't. But then I heard through the
Speaker 1: grape vine one of his people say, yo, you know
Speaker 1: he loves he loves drink chess problem. He said, I
Speaker 1: love drink Chaps. But I said, yo's he'll never do it,
Speaker 1: And I said why He said, it has to be
Speaker 1: an environment that is controlled, and that I understand. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because, like I said, that's my
Speaker 1: real smith is because because all right, the thing is,
Speaker 1: I gotta be in control like I don't want. But
Speaker 1: he got to be in control too. That's that's the
Speaker 1: reason why it probably won't ever happen. Like we almost
Speaker 1: did an interview, right, I hope he doesn't mind me
Speaker 1: sharing the story, but well he won't mind because he's
Speaker 1: a fan of drinking. So when anything we said here
Speaker 1: is okay, hopefully no. But he wi almost did an interview.
Speaker 1: I had reached out to him when that whole pushing
Speaker 1: thing was happening. For me, I have a real problem
Speaker 1: with people. It becomes like this when everybody's just on
Speaker 1: somebody like it. I don't like when people gang up
Speaker 1: one like it really bothers me. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: like you don't like Badwagon, I don't like. But it's
Speaker 1: also like I'm trying to think of the words. It's
Speaker 1: not bullying. It's not bullying because everybody they all grown,
Speaker 1: everybody's a grown man. But it's like angry mob. And
Speaker 1: then once an angry mob happens and the swelling happens,
Speaker 1: it's almost like uncool to say if everybody's owing somebody
Speaker 1: and then somebody else goes. I really like that, like
Speaker 1: bullies them. Did you feel like that about Takashi? Like
Speaker 1: was that the same viby? What do you mean about
Speaker 1: everybody talking about takash? Thing was different? We could get
Speaker 1: back to that. But when the pushing and Drake thing happened,
Speaker 1: I just felt like, yeah, I'm trying to see your
Speaker 1: anger because I didn't see I'm not seeing weird. Like no,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying picture was the bully. I'm saying the
Speaker 1: internet the tone like everybody's like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everybody gotta hate Drake just because pushing and so I
Speaker 1: had reached out to him, like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm wishing you well, I want you to get past this,
Speaker 1: this too, shall pass, because it is we've seen this,
Speaker 1: We've seen the low low, and people come out with
Speaker 1: a here record and people forget. So even though it
Speaker 1: feels like the whole world is against you this week,
Speaker 1: next week, you're probably gonna be fine. Like you're so talented,
Speaker 1: this is gonna pass. It doesn't not the words. I
Speaker 1: just sent him a nice message and he hit me
Speaker 1: right back and was like, thank you so much, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, and then we mentioned we talked about maybe
Speaker 1: during an interview about it at that time, UM, and
Speaker 1: it didn't happen, and it didn't need to happen because
Speaker 1: you put an album out and he was back on top,
Speaker 1: and everybody's all, Drake, we love drink Kei Ki you
Speaker 1: love me, and we forgot about and his baby we
Speaker 1: got I don't even remember the point of the story.
Speaker 1: The point of the story is that we almost had that,
Speaker 1: and then the time passed and I didn't even reach
Speaker 1: out because I understand that he didn't. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: anything from talking. He's ready back on top, the music, tanging,
Speaker 1: the music, speaking for himself. Because I always think about this, right,
Speaker 1: it's not just about me and my radio show. Woul
Speaker 1: getting my interview. It's also like what's best for Drake.
Speaker 1: It's probably not best for him to talk right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna push it and be like you
Speaker 1: said you wanted to. I'm like, actually, he's kind of
Speaker 1: good right now, Like why would he All he has
Speaker 1: to do is it's lose, Like he's not gonna gain
Speaker 1: anything about over talking in a moment where he's back
Speaker 1: on a he's getting the graces of everybody back, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I think, why would he
Speaker 1: do drink champs right now? I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't if I was Drake. But I also think let
Speaker 1: a little time pass. But it's fun because it's like
Speaker 1: he's got nothing to win or lose, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think it would be funny, Like
Speaker 1: like I think that him and meet together, You're gonna
Speaker 1: ask him about push. You gotta ask him about it.
Speaker 1: You don't want to talk as Birdman. Burtman sat in
Speaker 1: the same exact seat that you was. That I asked
Speaker 1: him everything. I asked him in the polite way, in
Speaker 1: the way that is niggerish, so he felt doble and
Speaker 1: and I'll do the same exact thing. The thing is,
Speaker 1: I'm when you were too my world. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like um and we respect the
Speaker 1: Dodge and we respected like yeah yeah, like yeah, like this,
Speaker 1: like I know this sort of rappers that won't come
Speaker 1: to me because I'm like the FBI, like I already
Speaker 1: know the question that I'm askings never come back, like
Speaker 1: I'm never doing it. By the way, that's the first
Speaker 1: thing that fact Joe said. But I was telling that today.
Speaker 1: I said when we um I saw speaking about fIF TV,
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, no, I'm never coming back. But
Speaker 1: it is so peaceful here pleasant here. No, but um
Speaker 1: the baby ye but okay, No, No, I got switching
Speaker 1: it up. I was switching it up. It was because
Speaker 1: we were talking about battling and we were talking about
Speaker 1: draking to push your teeth. You also had a crazy
Speaker 1: moment when after Ether came out, Jay came out with
Speaker 1: this record superbly, and then Jay actually apologized on your
Speaker 1: show And did you see that coming? Because no, I
Speaker 1: never see that coming, right, So what does what does
Speaker 1: he do? He calls you and says he's coming up
Speaker 1: because it was through the phone. No, first of all,
Speaker 1: I think Jay got the bad end of that deal,
Speaker 1: because it really should have been takeover versus either. Those
Speaker 1: were the two of their better records. We took my
Speaker 1: Battle of the Beats. It was the battle we did
Speaker 1: on hold, on, Hold, on hold on the days I
Speaker 1: got described this to the fast Okay at this point,
Speaker 1: don't hit them the table, Okay. So it's the podcast
Speaker 1: was totally different from from when he was over there.
Speaker 1: But listen, Battle of the Beats meant so much like
Speaker 1: you literally if he was on the Battle of the Beach,
Speaker 1: you literally went outside in your hood and told everyone,
Speaker 1: call is fucking number and vote for me. Crazy. That
Speaker 1: gets the battle to beat if you want, you will
Speaker 1: proceed to the next night. You weren't fives. I mean
Speaker 1: we had Miami, but you know you got ye kind
Speaker 1: of created something like that mixed we got already stuff
Speaker 1: from so anyway, so when that way, you know who
Speaker 1: helped me come up with that name was Salon, So yeah,
Speaker 1: we want the phone mad. Later, I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to do something. When we put two songs against
Speaker 1: each other, blah blah, and we were throwing names around
Speaker 1: all night, what's happening? Asian friend man came up with
Speaker 1: the name Battle of beast and then Salam went and
Speaker 1: had Lauren Hill to the promo for me. So what happens?
Speaker 1: She was like, fine, it was Lauren singing if you
Speaker 1: win five? What was it? Five in the row? Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you go into like a hall of fame. Did
Speaker 1: you go into the hall of fame? But did you
Speaker 1: like actually get added to like like rotation in the station? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Huge at the time. Okay, so battle Way, you know,
Speaker 1: that was like I was starting my career, so I
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about my pal. You just started at
Speaker 1: that time. I mean I was I thought you guy
Speaker 1: felt like I was just starting. But I was already
Speaker 1: on nighttime. I'm so bad at years. Don't ask me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nineties. Nineties yeah, mid nineties, and I
Speaker 1: have went from doing overnights. I was on like two
Speaker 1: and am they gave me this nighttime shift. It was
Speaker 1: like a big deal, like oh ship people are like
Speaker 1: a wake and hear me on the radio. And so
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, all right, I gotta make
Speaker 1: a show. And I came up with bad a little
Speaker 1: beats and no, I'm not understanding the power of it
Speaker 1: yet because we're developing it. There's no such thing as
Speaker 1: hip hop radia, like we're making it happen. This is
Speaker 1: so I just came up with it because it's was
Speaker 1: something fun to do, okay. So but people started taking
Speaker 1: it really like it became like a thing like I
Speaker 1: remember lee Or calling calling me because I have put
Speaker 1: cannabis against I had a call from le Or Okay,
Speaker 1: like what and what is he saying? What mean for
Speaker 1: must win? This? Basically we would do when we have
Speaker 1: to do MG to make sure like it's not up
Speaker 1: to you, it's not up to me whatever. Whatever the
Speaker 1: phone calls is, who what do you want me to do? Okay?
Speaker 1: So batnd of beats happens. It was jas it was
Speaker 1: ether again super ugly. Well that was years later. In
Speaker 1: the beginning, no, I'm asking for From the beginning it
Speaker 1: was no. But at the beginning is how I met
Speaker 1: J because I have put it. Remember Ellen Scratch, you
Speaker 1: remember that second I do remember if you said I'll
Speaker 1: taker night an I'll taker It was another song I
Speaker 1: don't remember the name right now. So Ellen L. Scratch
Speaker 1: had a new song now and I put it in
Speaker 1: bat little Beats and I was like, I need somebody
Speaker 1: to go against this. And there was some kid from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: jay Z ain't nigga and before it was before that,
Speaker 1: it was in my lifetime. In my lifetime, I put
Speaker 1: it against um Scratch. We didn't know who Jay was
Speaker 1: at the time. I just put it up j bodied
Speaker 1: Ellen Scratch. But it was ridiculous. I was like, who
Speaker 1: is this guy? Like, who is jay Z? Who is
Speaker 1: this guy? Why is the phone's going so crazy? And
Speaker 1: then um, I mean years later, Jay told me they
Speaker 1: paid people to call all night. But he told me
Speaker 1: that that right now. But he told me that later,
Speaker 1: but it really got my attention. And then he wont
Speaker 1: he won for like a few nights in a row.
Speaker 1: And then him and Dame showed up at the station
Speaker 1: and they want me like Champagne and they showed up
Speaker 1: in the rock the Rocket Feller buggy Ete Bends and
Speaker 1: it was like a big thing. I don't never remember.
Speaker 1: I'm struggling, what do you mean? You know? I just said,
Speaker 1: they showed up in a buggy et Bens with their
Speaker 1: logo on it with videos and that was that was
Speaker 1: never remember them struggling like I've never like you know,
Speaker 1: like you know this, there's a time in the rapper's
Speaker 1: life where you know, the train is essential, it's a
Speaker 1: part of it. I can't imagine him. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like waking up in the morning, taking a ship, brushing
Speaker 1: your teeth, and the train, it's all most of the
Speaker 1: big all that time. I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 1: like James underground. He looked like he was, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never I've never seen totally remember him in Queens and
Speaker 1: he was and he was buying chrystal back then, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, what is that? But that was
Speaker 1: part of the appeal, right, like this guy, why does
Speaker 1: he have this money? What's happening? Okay? So Battle of
Speaker 1: Beats happened anyway, so it became a thing where people
Speaker 1: were like really cared, and it was fascinating to me,
Speaker 1: like when he was actually all of a sudden really
Speaker 1: really cared that the apology. Did he call up or
Speaker 1: did he come up? I forgot I forgot that part. No,
Speaker 1: he was at the station that was So that was
Speaker 1: years later. So Battle of the Beats had this legacy
Speaker 1: and then then the years was over. Whatever flex was
Speaker 1: like when the ether thing happened, he was like, we
Speaker 1: got to bring Battle and Beats back for this thing.
Speaker 1: And then so we did that for and it was
Speaker 1: eat the verse super ugly and of course eat the one, um.
Speaker 1: And then I think, guy, he was at the station.
Speaker 1: I don't remember listening to this. I remember listening to this,
Speaker 1: I know. OK. So it was a lot of people there.
Speaker 1: But literally, as I was announcing the winner is NAS,
Speaker 1: I could see from my peripheral in the window, I
Speaker 1: could see Jay walking in and I like the winners.
Speaker 1: He contact on that. I knew well. I had heard
Speaker 1: that he wanted to come up, but the timing of it,
Speaker 1: it was it was not a comfortable feeling. UM. So
Speaker 1: he kind of came up and sat in the chair.
Speaker 1: He was like, it is what it is or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, I took it too far and apologize
Speaker 1: for that part. I guess that he said all that.
Speaker 1: I mean not paraphrasing that he I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know how how it was out here, but in
Speaker 1: New York history, that was ill because that was like
Speaker 1: the first time we got to see a grown man
Speaker 1: and he was not comfortable. And it's all the interviews
Speaker 1: I had interviewed him maybe before or five times already
Speaker 1: by that point in our careers, and he was always
Speaker 1: you know, always confident, always whatever. Ran the show. He said,
Speaker 1: it's something from his mom. It was yeah, he said
Speaker 1: his mother heard and it was like, why would you
Speaker 1: say that? You know he was I guess she was
Speaker 1: disappointed at him for some of the things he said
Speaker 1: him super ugly. So he apologized. But what I remember
Speaker 1: about that day and for me, what I don't know,
Speaker 1: just was a moment was after because I felt bad.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him like somewhat defeated and that. So
Speaker 1: we walked out the room. I was like, off the air.
Speaker 1: I was like, are we good? Like I was worried
Speaker 1: that this is not He was like that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what it is. I can't there's
Speaker 1: not nothing to do here. This is what you know.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: This is not even I don't even worry about it.
Speaker 1: But it was like, I can't even explain it. It It
Speaker 1: was like he understood my role in my position and
Speaker 1: it was not a personal thing, and you know, he
Speaker 1: kind of just reassured me like this is out of
Speaker 1: your control. I get it. You're doing what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: And then he just kind of left and then I
Speaker 1: was like we'll see we're gonna be cool or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know, of course, That's why I actually the
Speaker 1: Elliott thing earlier is like, was it every time you
Speaker 1: had to like set rate yourself and say you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That's a specific time. Yeah. Of course
Speaker 1: Ja was already a friend at that point. He had
Speaker 1: already supported me so many years, and we did so
Speaker 1: many interviews and and but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like Jay Z one. He didn't
Speaker 1: you know what, I can't do that. He understood, he
Speaker 1: understood and respected, you know, Like how hard it would
Speaker 1: it be? Like, I mean, he takes his crap seriously.
Speaker 1: I take my two I take my job seriously too,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a respect in that and I understanding.
Speaker 1: And if somebody don't understand that, then they're really not
Speaker 1: my friend. That's real, you know what I'm saying, Like, Like,
Speaker 1: how hard would it be like if if like your
Speaker 1: relationship with Jay and relationship with with Fat Joe, even
Speaker 1: Fat Joe, you know, when Fat Joe and fifty would befriend,
Speaker 1: I still had to interview fifty cent respect? How is that?
Speaker 1: What was your Texas? Like? What was your two way
Speaker 1: like when he was the interview with Vicent and fat
Speaker 1: Joe knew this. I mean, Joe loves me and I
Speaker 1: love Joe and it has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: And so I always try to be fair and I
Speaker 1: always try to but also like fifties, you know, he's
Speaker 1: part of these entertaining funny he's entertaining, He's what is
Speaker 1: I've always been able to like, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: beat from with him, I'm not gonna not I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna stop talking to you when I see you and
Speaker 1: say what's up, you know. And if I had to
Speaker 1: say to you, if you ask him, I have to
Speaker 1: say what you did Tony was foul, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that to you. But I'm still gonna fire. Relationship is
Speaker 1: still gonna be separate from that. And so I just
Speaker 1: always try to just be fair and truthful and and
Speaker 1: let that lead and then and then if somebody don't
Speaker 1: sunk with you after that, there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: You only can control how you walk through a situation.
Speaker 1: You can't really control how other people receive it. So
Speaker 1: Luckily for like somebody like Joe and I who are
Speaker 1: really friends, like you know, in their house when it's
Speaker 1: I'm here in Miami, like they really friend. Of course,
Speaker 1: he couldn't understand because at first he was emotional when
Speaker 1: it came to like I know Joe, like Damni, I
Speaker 1: feel like my whole life right um. And at first
Speaker 1: he was emotional when it came to the Phisic thing
Speaker 1: because he had he had never experienced anybody in hip
Speaker 1: hop say anything about him. So I knew he was
Speaker 1: off guard a little bit because it was like his
Speaker 1: first time and it was like and it wasn't like
Speaker 1: a guy said it and just was hiding that he
Speaker 1: was said it, and like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So so I know at first wasn't a little awkward,
Speaker 1: not really, Okay, I mean I think I'm just careful.
Speaker 1: I'm careful. I'm always careful anyway. I'm always careful, not
Speaker 1: just to make sure my energy is right, like my
Speaker 1: attentions and my energy is right, and that's all I
Speaker 1: can control. If I'm talking to somebody they say something crazy,
Speaker 1: I just have to make sure that I'm grounded in
Speaker 1: my intention and my energy. And then I said, I
Speaker 1: could walk out of that, Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's nothing I can I can't control. Everybody's energy has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. All I could do is
Speaker 1: show up and try to be fair and try to
Speaker 1: be you know, okay, do the right thing. But I'm
Speaker 1: bouncing around a little bit over here. Now. There was
Speaker 1: this Biggie phone call. It was all right, um, well
Speaker 1: you a deep research, you know? Um was it? Hit
Speaker 1: him up? Hit him up? Comes out? Oh dog Pound
Speaker 1: comes to New York. Right, And this is this rumor
Speaker 1: that Biggie Small called the radio stage. No, that's not
Speaker 1: a rumor. That's actually true. It's just no one has
Speaker 1: proof for this. Oh it's on the internet somewhere for sure.
Speaker 1: And this this was on your show, correct, it was
Speaker 1: actually I mean I was at that time. I used
Speaker 1: to run flexis board, so I would be getting the
Speaker 1: studio with flex But it really was flexib show. Okay,
Speaker 1: because because because he has a deal. Like when they
Speaker 1: put it in a Tupac movie, like they they don't
Speaker 1: play the actual footage. They play. They played great talking
Speaker 1: talking over right, of course, not they didn't really use
Speaker 1: any actual footogo. I don't think for that. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. But that phone call actually weird Snoop voice over.
Speaker 1: That was weird. That was weird. But so this phone
Speaker 1: call actually happened. Yeah, it totally happened. So Big, this
Speaker 1: is the first because you know the reason why it's
Speaker 1: important this phone call is importan and this because this
Speaker 1: is actually the first time we get to see Big
Speaker 1: stand up for something. Like for the most of part um,
Speaker 1: I've had Snoop on, I've had Snoop. Yes, Snoop remembers
Speaker 1: all of this, like word for word. Snoop and I
Speaker 1: have had many conversations about this because I always dissected
Speaker 1: like that because I always thought Snoop, you know, Snoop
Speaker 1: and I had a little weird thing because that's when
Speaker 1: they were doing New York, New York the video, right,
Speaker 1: So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly remembers the
Speaker 1: Big call. He remembers old people ran down here. We
Speaker 1: described that to us for people who don't know because
Speaker 1: so Big just calls funk Flex. Yeah he was on
Speaker 1: the but but people have to realize it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he called him to tell him about you know, Big
Speaker 1: would often call into the radio, you know, So that
Speaker 1: night it was like, Yo, they're shooting this video in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: Like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that book.
Speaker 1: It was like, but that was it. It was like
Speaker 1: a Brooklyn stand up. It was. It was a sign.
Speaker 1: It was that's very clear. It doesn't that it got
Speaker 1: shut up. But that was the first because you know,
Speaker 1: that's why it's important. But then again, you know it was.
Speaker 1: It was a weird time if you think about how
Speaker 1: crazy that is that we were also invested in something
Speaker 1: that was so dumb and kind of media created. I
Speaker 1: had a record called l also artist Artists. But the media,
Speaker 1: if anything inflamed it more covers didn't. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: That was the media that like MTV news man. But
Speaker 1: it was just weird. Was that was? That was? You
Speaker 1: know why that was the first time. Now if you
Speaker 1: had you was privileged to actually meet Big. I remember
Speaker 1: coming up to Big in the tunnel samm let's fry,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and Big looking at me like young man,
Speaker 1: chill out, chill. Big really tried, by the way, he
Speaker 1: really tried to like not, I kid you not. I
Speaker 1: wish I could tell everyone individually, like how far left
Speaker 1: they were, like how far to this area park was
Speaker 1: and how far this area Big was, Like Big really
Speaker 1: was like I never did I never did what they
Speaker 1: accused me of. Like he literally told me that and
Speaker 1: that ship, but I never met Tupac by the way,
Speaker 1: I met Big, but I never met Tupac and um
Speaker 1: literally and it's the crazy ship is we did a
Speaker 1: record call l A l A. But we actually but
Speaker 1: we stood up for East Coast because I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: I forget. I think I'm in a lunch room. So
Speaker 1: um when we actually did um mom deep and uh,
Speaker 1: we actually did it. And I remember bringing it to
Speaker 1: Big and I remember him saying because it was for
Speaker 1: a Stretched Armstrong mixtape and Stretched Armstrong was hosting a
Speaker 1: bad Boy mixtapes. Remember bad Boy had to mix tape.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I remember Big telling me to my face,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to use that. And that's the reason
Speaker 1: when l A l A came out the way it
Speaker 1: came out is because Big told me to my face,
Speaker 1: I not gonna use that. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was so hurt because I am defended him. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't want to first of it. He was trying. He
Speaker 1: was trying to be the bigger man he was, and
Speaker 1: I think he just was trying to stay focused. That's
Speaker 1: probably puff was probably in his ear, like don't get
Speaker 1: distract I would imagine. I don't know that for a fact,
Speaker 1: but Big tried, and also Snoop tried. I think that's
Speaker 1: what killed Jo rule was because he tried to like
Speaker 1: go to Biggie route and fifty was just different. Do
Speaker 1: you think so you thinkthy was different than Pockets? He
Speaker 1: like Noless. No, I felt like different, very different year.
Speaker 1: Both relentless. Yeah, both relentless, and both I just think
Speaker 1: one had social media when the other one didn't. Imagine
Speaker 1: the two pocket social media. It's totally different. That's a
Speaker 1: big punt on Facebook, big, Holy Moly, holy ship. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I had a moment just now. I'm literally thinking about
Speaker 1: I missed. I missed. I missed punning of course. Man,
Speaker 1: do you know pun got me super high on the
Speaker 1: radio one time. I had never had any like weed
Speaker 1: cookies before, and he came to the show and he
Speaker 1: had a bag of weed cookies and he was like, YO,
Speaker 1: have one, And I was like, I had smokes. So
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I can handle a weed cookie. And
Speaker 1: what I didn't know is it took takes time to
Speaker 1: kick in. So I ate when I was like I
Speaker 1: feel nothing, I'm fine. You ate more. I ate like
Speaker 1: half a bag. Then I did this older he fucking
Speaker 1: sat there and watched me do it. And you know,
Speaker 1: because pun was an asshole, he was meaning the best
Speaker 1: way possible. He was like a jux him. It was
Speaker 1: probably hysterical, like she has no idea and so I
Speaker 1: had way too many cookies and about so we finished
Speaker 1: the interview and I was fine. I was like old
Speaker 1: cookies in the world my time, which is crazy what
Speaker 1: thing happened to me? And then all of sudden, I
Speaker 1: was like, and I'm still I had to finish the
Speaker 1: rest of my show, and I thought. I said to
Speaker 1: Patty Duke, who was my producer, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think I have to go to the hospital pick up
Speaker 1: Speedy and Patty Doodle Patty it was I think it
Speaker 1: was both of them, and I wanted them to take
Speaker 1: me to the emergency room. I was like, I think
Speaker 1: I'm dying. I think I'm gonna die. In my heart,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna die, Like I just kept saying,
Speaker 1: I think I'm taking emergency. Anyway, they wind up taking
Speaker 1: me home. Somebody drove me home and I slept it off,
Speaker 1: but it was terrible, like I haven't by the way,
Speaker 1: it's never again. I won't have it edible. I won't
Speaker 1: have a gun me I'm own because Punt ruined it
Speaker 1: for me forever. So, um have you ever? Oh, have
Speaker 1: you ever? Like? Have you ever? It's never? Have you
Speaker 1: ever regretted the interview? Like if you ever? Like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you know somebody like a Mike Kaiser tight
Speaker 1: maybe not Mike Kaiser, but Mike Kaiser type, you know
Speaker 1: who you play cards with it and they call you
Speaker 1: and they say interview. You know, um d C Jeffrey go, go,
Speaker 1: who's that nigger? Right? And then he comes and this
Speaker 1: guy he's gonna lean and he's I hate those interviews.
Speaker 1: He hate lean interviews. I do. I don't like. I
Speaker 1: don't even like when people are too high. And you know,
Speaker 1: I love Nas, but not back in the day when
Speaker 1: Nas would smoke too much, I would I would hate
Speaker 1: our interviews because you know, he's smart and he had
Speaker 1: so much to say, but he would get high and
Speaker 1: he'd be like, yeah, no he wouldn't. So I would
Speaker 1: be like, I hope he comes today now high because
Speaker 1: I always we get better interviews from Nas when he wasn't.
Speaker 1: But I think, um, I mean later, he probably learned
Speaker 1: how to do interviews. Ear NAS's first show in Miami,
Speaker 1: Illan out Scratch opened up and why Scratch. But I
Speaker 1: was so disappointed, unfortunately, because I think that now I
Speaker 1: was just so high. Yeah in the beginning, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you imagine now Scratch, you know how they are there
Speaker 1: together interacting, there, they all energy, and we're already for
Speaker 1: noting that he just was there and you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us was getting to learn
Speaker 1: our show. But I'm jumping around then later, But yeah,
Speaker 1: people if they're too high or whatever, they what on whatever,
Speaker 1: then it's never a good interview. And also now I've
Speaker 1: learned that as I've grown, like I don't even want
Speaker 1: to you know, we see people that are in bad conditions.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I never want to interview somebody who's in a
Speaker 1: bad state, you know what I'm saying, because it's like
Speaker 1: I feel it's all meaning they high and they or
Speaker 1: they're on heroin terrible, I mean, drink whatever, but like
Speaker 1: and your this is about your own year. But sometimes
Speaker 1: people I feel like I'm taking advantage. Like there's been
Speaker 1: people where like I literally stop the interview and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, let's do it. Another time. I'd rather do
Speaker 1: that than would let you play yourself and be under
Speaker 1: the you know that. Yeah, yeah with that, I'm not
Speaker 1: good with that. You know. Another funny story is when
Speaker 1: when you run a punt. It just a story of this.
Speaker 1: When you said Punn was like almost like a bully.
Speaker 1: Was when pun went to the flatform, right, you know
Speaker 1: what he says, I'm thos a hundred pounds. Every time
Speaker 1: I see that, I hear that, I cry. But I
Speaker 1: remember me being in South Carolina and I had to
Speaker 1: show on South Carolina and for for some reason back then,
Speaker 1: people in North Carolina couldn't hear the South Carolina and
Speaker 1: vice versa. So I was in the next stay and
Speaker 1: Punk calls me. He's like, yo, you and um I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah. He's like yeah, well, I'm like forty five
Speaker 1: minutes away, come see me. So I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just go. So I go to
Speaker 1: see him, and the counselor knows who I am. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're come to see punting. Like yeah, so puns like, yo,
Speaker 1: get a pass. They're gonna give you like an hour pass.
Speaker 1: So I'm like all right, cool. So I look at
Speaker 1: the guy like, yo, can I get a pass? He's like, yes, noy,
Speaker 1: but have him back in the hour and don't let
Speaker 1: him full you. So I'm like, alright, cool, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what he's talking about. Right, so I already
Speaker 1: see where this is going. I put part of this
Speaker 1: is back in the days, you've got a fantastic, So
Speaker 1: I put poet of the fantastically driving a right, you know,
Speaker 1: the fantastic should be driving around. He's happy, he's but
Speaker 1: he's out of this ship. So he goes your bonna.
Speaker 1: So I said, what's up? He goes pull over to
Speaker 1: the KFC, and I go, yo, put him. I'm not
Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the world, but I know, like
Speaker 1: you're in a fat farm, KFC. It's not together. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Poem is a different type of dude, he said,
Speaker 1: I figured it out. I said, what is that? The
Speaker 1: fat is only in the skin. All we gotta do
Speaker 1: is take the skin off of the chicken. And I'm good.
Speaker 1: Me like an idiot, goes to Catty. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: should want you don't want like a five? He's like,
Speaker 1: why not, don't worry, don't We're gonna get a five.
Speaker 1: Will come back, get another five and I'm come back.
Speaker 1: We get and I'm like you sure, He's like, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I do a deal all the time. I'll take the
Speaker 1: skin off me like the idiot twenty four or five
Speaker 1: year old I am. I'm I don't boarded up thirty
Speaker 1: piece biscuits, macaroni and a diet coke, my whole boy
Speaker 1: on the flatform. So the crazy ship was he's it
Speaker 1: and I don't realize that you smell like grease, like
Speaker 1: if you don't if you haven't been eating fast food.
Speaker 1: So we walk in as soon as they're walk in
Speaker 1: there like nor we never again remember like we wiped him.
Speaker 1: We every ever this of him in the world. As
Speaker 1: soon as he walked in the Council's new immedia, there
Speaker 1: was like so I just remember, I'm just sorry. I
Speaker 1: just remember that story because that's a great story. So
Speaker 1: all right, it comes time you from what I heard,
Speaker 1: you wanted to be the p d or of hot
Speaker 1: This is what this is, pure room up. I've never
Speaker 1: heard no inside information. And for some reason, these people
Speaker 1: say you know what you're and you're who you are.
Speaker 1: But then this other opportunity, this is a brand new
Speaker 1: radio station, they got the slogan flipped the switch. Everybody
Speaker 1: in death jam if you slip the switch, switch forever,
Speaker 1: so people are skined switch. He was switch at first.
Speaker 1: Clue comes over, right, clue comes over, then envy. But
Speaker 1: there's no Breakfast Club, there's no number one show. Everyone
Speaker 1: is looking at this station like m But then there's
Speaker 1: something remarkable. What happens the Breakfast Club performs? They do it.
Speaker 1: But since the and like when you thought the hot
Speaker 1: NY seven, literally you thought of Angie Martina, How is
Speaker 1: it to make that decision because I don't want obviously
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about the numbers, but obviously it
Speaker 1: had to be bigger than just the numbers, because you're
Speaker 1: leaving family, like I remember, like like honestly, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying this what we'll all due respect to everyone else,
Speaker 1: But if it was anyone else, everyone would have just
Speaker 1: moved on. Like that whole week, everyone was sad, like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's amazing was going
Speaker 1: to be what it was like it was it was
Speaker 1: gonna be a big deal, but not what it was.
Speaker 1: I was not prepared for that, Like I'm prepared, I'm
Speaker 1: over prepared. Whenever I do something. I already know seven
Speaker 1: steps ahead what's gonna happen. I didn't think of a
Speaker 1: lot of things and how I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: and when of them and all that, But the reaction
Speaker 1: of everybody I was not all the way prepared for.
Speaker 1: Like it literally was like like it took my post.
Speaker 1: In reality, it is a job, right it is, But
Speaker 1: this you created fas always had this fear of like
Speaker 1: being institutionalized in a weird way, like I would watch
Speaker 1: people be in the game and they only worked for
Speaker 1: one label for their whole career and then they're over
Speaker 1: and then it's over. And I was always I loved
Speaker 1: how we built it, we made it what it was.
Speaker 1: Flex is my family. He made you know, helped make me.
Speaker 1: He was um and then you know I have family there.
Speaker 1: Enough is my brother he's still my brothers. Just spoke
Speaker 1: to the other day, text me just to tell me
Speaker 1: let me um. That was all. It was literally like
Speaker 1: three days and I still like Lauris styles. I just
Speaker 1: talked to the other thing also of watermelon shots. Watermelon
Speaker 1: shots shots good. But it was like I was I
Speaker 1: felt like I was being um loyal to something that
Speaker 1: wasn't there anymore. So it's like you built something right,
Speaker 1: you said, that's not there any more. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the regime. Yeah, it was a different place. It wasn't
Speaker 1: the place was the original. It was Tracy. It was Tracy.
Speaker 1: It was jud who gave me my break. It was
Speaker 1: so it was just like we built this thing, We
Speaker 1: make this thing, and then this thing becomes something else,
Speaker 1: and it becomes more corporate and it becomes different, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're there and people connect your
Speaker 1: name with this brand, and I just started feeling like
Speaker 1: I wanted to control my own brand and my own self.
Speaker 1: Like there was new people working in, new people in
Speaker 1: charge that I had no really connection to. And so
Speaker 1: what am I being loyal to? My being loyal to
Speaker 1: Flex and being loyal to enough, Like if we're friends
Speaker 1: and we're family, we're gonna always be friends. This is
Speaker 1: what y'all do? You do show? And then so people
Speaker 1: get pissy and then you make them talk about that,
Speaker 1: keep going, I'm not that's let's I'm not doing the show. Cool.
Speaker 1: And so my contract was up for a really long
Speaker 1: time and they nobody, nobody there was checking me on it,
Speaker 1: which is kind of floating. So let me, let me
Speaker 1: give you two scenarios. Right, so I have all this
Speaker 1: this great career there and then what I just ride
Speaker 1: it out to the sunset and then it's over. Or
Speaker 1: do I look at my options? Do I look at
Speaker 1: I built this, not only this, but I built myself
Speaker 1: up and now I'm still in a position where I
Speaker 1: have value. Do I just ignore my value and just
Speaker 1: sit here next to these new people and next to
Speaker 1: the family, or do I just look around and see
Speaker 1: what's my options? So what's the thing to do? Right?
Speaker 1: Contract been up? Nobody even they knew it. They just
Speaker 1: they know nobody nobody was either because they a little
Speaker 1: bit of taking me for granting. It was like a
Speaker 1: hand shaped like it was a handshake. Had my protect
Speaker 1: was over? I was just working like and like month
Speaker 1: to month was like you wanted to be like the
Speaker 1: m D or the p D. Why would I gonna
Speaker 1: do that? You get paid less money than I get
Speaker 1: paid and you gotta work twice as hard. Why would
Speaker 1: I don't want to do? So? I know? Um, And
Speaker 1: so just what had happened was I looked around, like
Speaker 1: what's all right? So what are my what are my options?
Speaker 1: At this point in my life. In my career, I'm
Speaker 1: a mother, I got mortgage. I got like, like, let
Speaker 1: me just know. And then when I realized because I
Speaker 1: always thought of them as the enemy, but then I
Speaker 1: was like, let me meet them and see what type
Speaker 1: of you're saying? Power? It was the enemy, right, So
Speaker 1: I grew up was what it was. And then you
Speaker 1: meet people and you're like, oh, ship, you're not bad people.
Speaker 1: You love radio, you respect me. We start having a
Speaker 1: mutual conversation just to us because it's gotta be awkward,
Speaker 1: because you know why when we thought on Hot Today
Speaker 1: seven again, I want to reiterate this, we thought of
Speaker 1: you in flex right. Yeah, but let me tell you something, right,
Speaker 1: if I would have never moved right, I'm always going
Speaker 1: to be Angie from How Today seven? Do you think
Speaker 1: of me as Angie from Power Now? Or do you
Speaker 1: just think of me as a Martini? Okay? So what
Speaker 1: that's very true? So true? Would that have ever happened
Speaker 1: for me if I stayed? Still uncomfortable? But how is
Speaker 1: this approach though? Because no, but I'm asking me the question.
Speaker 1: No to that question alone. When I asked myself that question,
Speaker 1: that's real? Do I want to be my own thing?
Speaker 1: Or do I want to just be connected to stand
Speaker 1: alone brand, a brand that is yes, we built it right,
Speaker 1: but now it belongs to I don't own it, it's
Speaker 1: not mine. If they want to sell it tomorrow, then
Speaker 1: I'm out of a job. And then what there was
Speaker 1: no I just I just felt a disconnect from the
Speaker 1: brand and myself. I felt a disconnect. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: this kind of conflected build, this connect from enough, but
Speaker 1: the brand of the radio station. I felt this kind
Speaker 1: of different. But how did this other side even get
Speaker 1: to you? Like y'all first going to them? Because for
Speaker 1: years they would always try to come from me and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, nah, I'm never I'm never going over there.
Speaker 1: You can't. You could never afford it was on that
Speaker 1: young dumb because I like, I owned the brand, the
Speaker 1: other brand, I'm owned none of that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I but I was acting like that,
Speaker 1: but I was like no, no, no. But then once
Speaker 1: I had that realization, like there were some things that
Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes, some decisions that were made that
Speaker 1: I didn't like that I had no control over. We
Speaker 1: did that show. I hated that show, that reality show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was decisions that were being made that were not
Speaker 1: in my best interests. So if this brand is not
Speaker 1: looking at my best interests, why am I being loyal?
Speaker 1: Why am I sitting here when there are other options
Speaker 1: for me? And so I started looking, and so I
Speaker 1: had put the word out that I would be interested
Speaker 1: in having a conversation just to see what's out here.
Speaker 1: And then when I did, I just felt like it's
Speaker 1: a better experience for me to know what happens. That
Speaker 1: I don't want to just have one experience my whole career.
Speaker 1: But let me address like the elephant that I was
Speaker 1: in the room. At least. Then a lot of the
Speaker 1: blame was blamed on Ebro. Yeah, a lot of you
Speaker 1: I love a bro for the record, Okay, a lot
Speaker 1: of it was like, you know, he came in and
Speaker 1: at first, like now I consider him, I don't even
Speaker 1: even blame him a little bit at the time. In retrospect,
Speaker 1: I do not, because at that time it was a
Speaker 1: new regime. He was trying to find his way out,
Speaker 1: he was going from p D to on air, and
Speaker 1: so he was kind of looking out for his best
Speaker 1: interest to an extension, which he's supposed to. But also
Speaker 1: it made me realize this is not my best interest,
Speaker 1: and so let me start looking out for self, right,
Speaker 1: let me not just be dumb and loyal and be
Speaker 1: like whatever everybody wants, but nobody's making sure this is
Speaker 1: good for me. I had to back up and be like,
Speaker 1: hold up, you go to for advice, but when you
Speaker 1: make that type of move, like or you did this
Speaker 1: all on your own, like you you sat back, or
Speaker 1: do you do you talk to a whole boy. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk to nobody about that because I
Speaker 1: didn't want I didn't want it to I wanted to
Speaker 1: control the narrative that. I wanted to control the outcome
Speaker 1: of that. And I have a theory that, like, everybody
Speaker 1: has the best friend, right, So you might be my
Speaker 1: best friend and I trust you, but you got another
Speaker 1: best friend that you trust. So I'm a volt Like
Speaker 1: if if there's something I don't want people to know,
Speaker 1: I don't tell nobody. And the same thing, if you
Speaker 1: tell me a secret and I value our friendship, I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna tell nobody else because as much as I
Speaker 1: love this person and trust them, they trust and love
Speaker 1: somebody else. I'm very careful about that type of thing.
Speaker 1: So I really didn't tell nobody, like my man but
Speaker 1: about it, like he knew, but literally like that's probably it,
Speaker 1: like even nobody like nobody. And also I needed to
Speaker 1: figure it out. It was so close, and so it
Speaker 1: was so like a tender decision that I really didn't
Speaker 1: want no other noise. I really wanted to know I
Speaker 1: was doing the right thing. I've never seen like the
Speaker 1: industry shaking up, like it's like it really freaked me out,
Speaker 1: like I can't, I can't even lie to you. Like
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I keep comparing it to the
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather because Floyd always seemed so happy with HBL
Speaker 1: and then to see him with like the showtime, it
Speaker 1: was just like wait, wait what HBO. We didn't see
Speaker 1: it like that. And the thing about it is like
Speaker 1: I know we spoke about it, well, isn't if that
Speaker 1: was my company we rolled that to the wheels fall off,
Speaker 1: or if that company was like, hey, you get to
Speaker 1: decide this, this this, then we could rocked. But like
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I was a paid employee, no equity, there's
Speaker 1: no equity, and there's also no protection if you decide
Speaker 1: tomorrow you want to start playing dance music, which by
Speaker 1: the way At that time, it was starting to heap,
Speaker 1: but they were starting to play, don't know. It was
Speaker 1: like a time they were they were experimenting, and I
Speaker 1: just thought I had been there a really long time.
Speaker 1: They could easily make a change. And then but so
Speaker 1: who do I leave my destiny to? Do I leave
Speaker 1: it to a company or do I take it into
Speaker 1: my own hands and decide was the better fit for me?
Speaker 1: And I also just feel like you gotta shake it up.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I felt I was a little comfortable. I could
Speaker 1: have just sat there and rolled that out, but I
Speaker 1: was very comfortable, like too comfortable where I'm uncomfortable because
Speaker 1: I'm too comfortable for you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: that was your you gotta get up, you gotta shake
Speaker 1: it up. And this is what I told Drew Sky
Speaker 1: to remember that day. Juiceky was my show producer, and
Speaker 1: he was like he was very upset. Wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait oh so he frowned out one air. Everybody found
Speaker 1: out that day. The only person I told the day
Speaker 1: before the night before it was Flex. I wanted to
Speaker 1: have that moment with him, but everybody else found out
Speaker 1: when I got there, Like nobody so and you said
Speaker 1: it on the air. No, I said it right before
Speaker 1: they knew. Everybody was already like in tears by the
Speaker 1: time I got to the air. But what I had
Speaker 1: said to Juice I was like, you have to you
Speaker 1: have to shake it up. Like it's okay, we did great.
Speaker 1: Ship doesn't negate anything, doesn't negate My love for nobody
Speaker 1: doesn't agate what we did. But we're moving forward now, right,
Speaker 1: And so what happens is when you shake it up,
Speaker 1: it forces other people situations to get shaken up. So
Speaker 1: me leaving opens up a slot for Drew Ski or
Speaker 1: for Nessa or for somebody else to just keeps the
Speaker 1: energy moving right. And so for myself and for other people,
Speaker 1: it's not just you know me, So do you ever
Speaker 1: a turn on? Listen to it? Or you like that ship?
Speaker 1: I have no. No, I have no. And I'm not
Speaker 1: even just saying this because it sounds cool, like I
Speaker 1: have no bad feeling stories it at all. People think
Speaker 1: like you said, e Bro, Like I love you, Bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I can't keep myself
Speaker 1: tied down to something that don't fit me no more
Speaker 1: because I love people like if they love me back,
Speaker 1: they want me the best for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, so I never really subscribed to we
Speaker 1: gotta be enemies because we work at different radio stations.
Speaker 1: We don't none of us own either one of those
Speaker 1: radio stations. None of them. That used to bother me
Speaker 1: when um, like I stole an album released party or
Speaker 1: something like that, and the labels would tell me, what,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a power party, and then we've gotta
Speaker 1: have a hot party. Yeah, And I to be like,
Speaker 1: why we just can't just party? And the crazy ship
Speaker 1: subscribe to that like they live like you can't know
Speaker 1: is that's only in New York, Like it's mainly in
Speaker 1: New York and not not in the import show in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Fort Mine. Well, because in smaller markets that
Speaker 1: happen to get bustle. But they have against the trust
Speaker 1: me all radio stations. If you have competitive it's it
Speaker 1: can get very safe in corporations at only stations have
Speaker 1: kind of like pushed out of Jenn. Of course you're
Speaker 1: not doing that to me. And honestly, that's one thing
Speaker 1: I was proud of, is that there was so much
Speaker 1: hostility between everybody I had and everybody a power and
Speaker 1: I refused to do that even when I left, because
Speaker 1: my friends, they friends, that's your friends, the motorcycles, the biles,
Speaker 1: the bikers got the best party like this. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: they provided us with that water, met us a rock.
Speaker 1: You provided us with some dog perry, y'all. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, some more wet and and anytime you're
Speaker 1: in South Beast, give us that address. Now you gotta
Speaker 1: check them at best Buy Liquor dot com. Man, were
Speaker 1: and give me the address because you know well you
Speaker 1: want to go to nineteen nineteen three sixty seven South
Speaker 1: Dixie Highway. God damn it, best Buy Liquors at a
Speaker 1: world dot com. Best Buy Liquor dot com. God damn it. God,
Speaker 1: that makes the l's best buy. Anyway, I say all
Speaker 1: that the same, and I was proud of the fact
Speaker 1: that when I left there, I was able to maintain
Speaker 1: my relationships with people there and then also create new
Speaker 1: relationships like I didn't even I never knew Charlottagne. I
Speaker 1: never knew none of them. I remember the day you
Speaker 1: got over there and how because this is when I
Speaker 1: knew that Charlottagne was kind of a genius. Was because
Speaker 1: he had like like beef with the whole Hot ninety
Speaker 1: seven and as soon as you came over there, he
Speaker 1: had so much great things. He admired you so much.
Speaker 1: And I love being able to break that wall down,
Speaker 1: like it's not that serious looking at what are we
Speaker 1: talking about? It reminded me of one thing I had
Speaker 1: spoke to Flex, right, and Flex was talking about this
Speaker 1: guy so bad, and I was like, in front of
Speaker 1: guy and that just Conflex, And I was like, yo, Flex,
Speaker 1: he goes, it's just competition, like he always like that.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, none of this, I said on the radio.
Speaker 1: I just I just, you know, I just wanted to know,
Speaker 1: like we're in competition, Like I was like, I never
Speaker 1: knew that. You know what else I respected about Flex?
Speaker 1: Up and tell you this is probably one of my
Speaker 1: favorite Flex stories. I come on, let him come in,
Speaker 1: Come on. This is one of my favorite It's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people's stories, not just Flex stories. Was
Speaker 1: I remember Flex saying that he had to meet record
Speaker 1: the record the Meek. Remember remember Drake Drive. He didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't have it. It was a lot he didn't have.
Speaker 1: He was a lot, right, Yeah, everybody, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: it the next day. Listen literally my flight. I literally
Speaker 1: was like your hold. I was like, your look classic
Speaker 1: if I get on, If I get on this flight
Speaker 1: right now, and I missed this, I wanna miss this
Speaker 1: classic New York moment. So I actually stood there and
Speaker 1: waiting so botom line. Flex didn't get the joint right.
Speaker 1: So the next day I called Flex and I'm trying
Speaker 1: not to bring it up. I'm just like, yo, I
Speaker 1: got this record. The Flex is like he's listening, like
Speaker 1: who's on the record, right, but he does he wants
Speaker 1: to ask me. So Flex goes, how did I look yesterday?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? He goes, He's like, how did
Speaker 1: I look us today? He looks a little funny? He said,
Speaker 1: was I making like a biscuit? I said, you bake it?
Speaker 1: And he said, like me, like, you know you looked
Speaker 1: at it? He said no, y'all know, I said, not
Speaker 1: not Flex, but did you did you never have the record?
Speaker 1: He's like those such a stuff. Told me he had
Speaker 1: the record, but I should have not listening to that,
Speaker 1: and this is why I respect Flex. And he goes,
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, love, I know I looked at
Speaker 1: like a biscuit? And I go, how do you know?
Speaker 1: He said, cause I stayed home the whole day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I didn't open my door for nobody didn't. But
Speaker 1: I had one delivery he said. I said, fuck it,
Speaker 1: they knocked my door, and he said, I open it
Speaker 1: up and open the delivery. And the guy just looked
Speaker 1: at me and said rough night. And you know, he
Speaker 1: took his losses his win. I had never seen somebody
Speaker 1: with the same smile that he had his winning because
Speaker 1: he loves the game. He loves the ups and downs
Speaker 1: a bit. He loves he loves that's when he's lost. Like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody like he's like you, I knew
Speaker 1: I funked up, like I shouldn't have said I had
Speaker 1: the record, like so like, I know, I know I
Speaker 1: asked you like in a certain way and the um.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where artists has sat
Speaker 1: down with you said some crazy ship and then told
Speaker 1: you you'll please erace that. Oh yeah, multiple times? And
Speaker 1: I tend to I tend to respect it unless they're
Speaker 1: in the wrong in some way like example, but really
Speaker 1: I won't because ultimately it's like normally it's nothing's that serious, like,
Speaker 1: but artists is really uncomfortable with something I'm not depressed,
Speaker 1: like because like I said, I'm culture friendly, I'm artist friendly.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're all here to lift each other up.
Speaker 1: And so if something is said that's you know, that
Speaker 1: hurts somebody, then we take it out. I don't care.
Speaker 1: That's fine. So that's happened, not a lot. I don't
Speaker 1: make it easy because I don't want that to be
Speaker 1: to become a thing. But it's happened a few times.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me not when, and I can't remember nothing.
Speaker 1: Do you have any like opinion on today's like media culture,
Speaker 1: journalistic culture, because you're saying you're culture friendly. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like today's blogs and websites culture friendly,
Speaker 1: the ones that claimed to be the most culture friendly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a tough I think it's
Speaker 1: a tough thing to keep going on. I got so
Speaker 1: we're back like four flats on the Cadillac. But um,
Speaker 1: so you also ran a marathon. Yes, it was a
Speaker 1: terrible idea. Let me tell you something. Twenty six point
Speaker 1: twenty six point too, but that I used to have
Speaker 1: to run another point, it's not every month you did
Speaker 1: this before Puffy or no, I did a way after
Speaker 1: I just did this a few years ago. I didn't
Speaker 1: a year when I left. When I went to Power
Speaker 1: that first year, I was so like inspired, you know,
Speaker 1: the rush of going that rush I could you imagine
Speaker 1: a rush I had of that translation, I just want
Speaker 1: to pitch this. So you hate you leaving? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: biggest contract of your life. And you say bucket and
Speaker 1: then that's sort of sound I'm like, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do? Now? Do something else that sounds like some
Speaker 1: rich people shop. I'm just doing because it was on
Speaker 1: my bucket list time. I'm a bucket list person, like
Speaker 1: I used to I was a kid. I used to
Speaker 1: watch it like yo, if I could do that, I
Speaker 1: could do anything. I used to literally watch the marathon
Speaker 1: and think that. So I was a bucket list thing.
Speaker 1: And that's a specific marathon. Was the marathon New York
Speaker 1: City Marathon. So then so then another way, she just
Speaker 1: told you that like that. Sorry anyway, So, my friend
Speaker 1: c C. Sebatia and Amber Spathia they were doing this
Speaker 1: thing the floor right whatever. So they were doing a
Speaker 1: team for charity, and I had just come off the
Speaker 1: high of this transition and I was like, now's the
Speaker 1: time I'm gonna do it. So we had like six
Speaker 1: so I told her I'm gonna run on the team.
Speaker 1: She was like, okay, great, she just mentioned the team.
Speaker 1: My son muld do it. She had a team because
Speaker 1: you know, in the New York City Marathon, you have
Speaker 1: to be like on a waiting list. Is that that
Speaker 1: that marathon? Like you can't just go run it like
Speaker 1: we have to. I just can't say I'm gone. You can't.
Speaker 1: But it could take like two or three years to
Speaker 1: be on the waiting list to get accepted because it's
Speaker 1: full like it's every year unless you're doing it for
Speaker 1: charity and you can find a team to be part of.
Speaker 1: So she had a team registered to go run. So
Speaker 1: she had mentioned that our kids played little league at
Speaker 1: the time. They were playing a litle league, so she
Speaker 1: mentioned she was doing this team, and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's on my bucket list. I'm coming down from the
Speaker 1: higher the transition. I'm going to run the fucking marrin.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be amazing. In my mind, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be amazing. I can't run. I can't run up the
Speaker 1: block without passing out, Like I'm not a runner. I
Speaker 1: don't even don't know why I thought for this, no
Speaker 1: listen to me. So when I told her I would
Speaker 1: do it, I had six months. So I was like,
Speaker 1: in six months, train six training much. I've be in
Speaker 1: great shape by then. I can't run to the corner
Speaker 1: store right now, but in six months, I'll run the
Speaker 1: New York It'll be a great idea. Anyway, not a
Speaker 1: great idea. So I start training. I can't run a mile.
Speaker 1: I can't run two months. So no one, you don't
Speaker 1: like water keep black people. Hey, I'm just playing. It's
Speaker 1: a terrible joke, very racist show. Continue enjoy this. You
Speaker 1: gotta have a shot puff if you want to give
Speaker 1: me a check solemn. I'm not doing the whole shot,
Speaker 1: but it's very tasty. Um. Anyway, So I start training
Speaker 1: and I realized, wow, this was a bad idea, like
Speaker 1: almost immediately. But I've already said it on the air.
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Puff, Puff makes a donation.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a thousand dollars for every
Speaker 1: mile you run each day, every morning, every night. Is
Speaker 1: gonna give me six thousand, two hundred dollars. So he
Speaker 1: says this on the radio. People are making donations. We
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta pressure. So a lot of pressure, and
Speaker 1: I already said I was gonna do it. I'm signed up,
Speaker 1: I got a blog about it. I started really having
Speaker 1: like severe anxiety because I was like, I can't you know.
Speaker 1: So I used the app, right, and it tells you
Speaker 1: this is how you should train. Oh, you've got six
Speaker 1: months where you need to do one mile this day,
Speaker 1: four miles this day. So the days I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: do a I still can't run two. So I know
Speaker 1: I'm I'm way pat you know I'm way behind. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna walk when I can't,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run, I'm gonna walk. I'm whatever. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so about two weeks before we're supposed to run the marathon,
Speaker 1: they say you're supposed to do a long run. So
Speaker 1: if the marathon's twenty six you're supposed to run like
Speaker 1: eighteen miles and that's the furthest you go, then you rest,
Speaker 1: then you show it for the day. So everybody on
Speaker 1: my team is like, oh, because they've all been training
Speaker 1: there in great shape, they're all ready for the marathon.
Speaker 1: They've all already run ten, twelve, sixteen miles. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do the long run as a team before the marathon.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: die when I tell you die, and I walked half
Speaker 1: of it like I thought I was gonna die. So
Speaker 1: cut to the end of the eighteen miles, I'm hobbling
Speaker 1: to the car like I came and walked. So now
Speaker 1: we've got a few weeks before the marathon, and my
Speaker 1: my leg is funked up from the long run. So
Speaker 1: from that day to the day of the marathon, i'm
Speaker 1: I can't barely walk, let alone run. So I show
Speaker 1: up at the marathon and they got us in the
Speaker 1: v I P tent because with you know what the
Speaker 1: Sabbathi is, and so there's like Olympians and probes, you know,
Speaker 1: athletic people didn't run. It was his team. So I
Speaker 1: show up. I'm I'm hobbling to the marathon. To the marathon,
Speaker 1: I'm already limping up to CEC who just struck out
Speaker 1: three thousand people brought away to think. So I hobbled
Speaker 1: to the thing, and now I have to run twenty
Speaker 1: six point two miles. This is how no God is
Speaker 1: really Like I know God is real because I literally
Speaker 1: prayed my way through the whole marathon, like I prayed
Speaker 1: the whole way. Like first it was like get me
Speaker 1: through the first couple of miles. By the way, so
Speaker 1: let me just tell you this real quick story. So
Speaker 1: the marathon, you start on the Arizona Bridge. That's how
Speaker 1: it starts. And now I got my the whole team
Speaker 1: is with me. We got started at the Arizonal Bridge.
Speaker 1: We all start and Amber's there, Ceci's wife. We're not
Speaker 1: even halfway over the bridge. This is the beginning of
Speaker 1: the marathon, and I can't keep up. Already my team
Speaker 1: is out. I'm like, just cold. Without me, You're not
Speaker 1: even likely. I'm like, go, I'll be okay, go on
Speaker 1: without me because I'm running mad slow. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I literally prayed. But there was a point I got
Speaker 1: to like seven miles, and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: finish this. I'm gonna When I got to seven, I
Speaker 1: was like, if I could do seven miles, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do twenty six months. I'm gonna finish this. It took
Speaker 1: me mad long. For the last five or six miles,
Speaker 1: I was literally like like like limping running, like skipping
Speaker 1: and hopping running, And I'll never forget this with in
Speaker 1: Central Park and it's towards the end, it's like a
Speaker 1: mile left. It sounds like nothing, right because but go
Speaker 1: run a mile right now, it's still a mile, like
Speaker 1: I just did five miles and still a mile left.
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, I'm not gonna make it after
Speaker 1: you like, and I literally my body was like it
Speaker 1: was it was beyond my mind. It was beyond my prayers.
Speaker 1: It was like my body was like, you're finished. You're
Speaker 1: not going to do this last month. Your body cannot
Speaker 1: do all five barrels, right, you run through all five barrels.
Speaker 1: So you start, you said so, now you said you have,
Speaker 1: So where are you at? We ran through Brooklyn, through
Speaker 1: the Bronx. We did all that. Now we're back in
Speaker 1: Central Park. Yeah, all of that. I'm at twenty five
Speaker 1: and I'm literally I could feel my you have like
Speaker 1: I could feel myself falling to like I was gonna
Speaker 1: fall on the ground. Five. I was literally like, this
Speaker 1: is terrible. I've made it this far. I cannot do another.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die right now. The wall, it's like a
Speaker 1: wall where the walls. At thirteen, I hit that moppy
Speaker 1: on the Queensboro Bridge. That's where that when you hit
Speaker 1: the wall. That happened to me. I'm on the Queensburg Bridge.
Speaker 1: It's freezing, it's cold. Hit the wall. I'm gonna die.
Speaker 1: Describe to people would do it because I'm in the
Speaker 1: ball means I can't run one more since time, but
Speaker 1: then you still have thirteen more miles. So I get
Speaker 1: to that, I hit the wall. I'm gonna die. I'm
Speaker 1: on the Queensburg Bridge. My knee hurts, and you know,
Speaker 1: when people are running, you start getting hustle, you start
Speaker 1: throwing your stuff up. People are throwing T shirts as
Speaker 1: you're running. So I'm on the bridge. It's mad clothes
Speaker 1: on the bridge. So I started thinking, like I'm a mcguiver.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna take somebody's tee shirt and wap
Speaker 1: it around my knee to stop the pain, and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to make it past like so
Speaker 1: I didn't. I picked up something tied it around the
Speaker 1: bottom of my knee because my knee was like swollen,
Speaker 1: and I was ready and pain. This is that thirteen
Speaker 1: I make it all the way to twenty five. Imagine that,
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna not make it and this is
Speaker 1: not the wall. This is something else. I'm a mile
Speaker 1: away and I can't go one more. I cannot do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die right now. I can't do it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just lay on the floor. This is my one
Speaker 1: of my mind. What's that mind? I'm gonna just lay
Speaker 1: on the floor right here in Central Park. And it
Speaker 1: is what it was. I tried. I can't nobody fart
Speaker 1: of me. I ran twenty miles. My body can't do it.
Speaker 1: I can't do another mile. I'm gonna die. I'm literally
Speaker 1: running at somebody. There was this lady. I don't know
Speaker 1: if she was all the black woman. I don't know
Speaker 1: if she knew me or she didn't know me, but
Speaker 1: it was like it was like an angel. I was
Speaker 1: like I was about to die, and the lady was like,
Speaker 1: I see you. You're gonna be okay. This is in
Speaker 1: the middle of Central Park. It's random, late angel. She
Speaker 1: wasn't a bottle of mar She was on the sidelines
Speaker 1: a shopping car. She had a shopping car. No, she
Speaker 1: was just standing there like a barricade. But I was
Speaker 1: going to She was like, I see she just canople
Speaker 1: around me. But she's talking to me, and she's like
Speaker 1: talking loud. I hear She's like, I see you. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. You're not gonna go down, You're gonna
Speaker 1: get there. You're gonna fish something about that lady like
Speaker 1: locking in. I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: It's like when it was in Amsterdam there was a
Speaker 1: guy drove by on a bicycle and that everybody. I
Speaker 1: was just like something, it's not just everybody is like
Speaker 1: this guy good drips buying a bicycle and he says,
Speaker 1: don't do cocaine. Like the same thing. Sorry. He said,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay. You're gonna be okay, you guys.
Speaker 1: But it was like an angel. I swear you guys.
Speaker 1: Was that No, God's real number one God. There's no
Speaker 1: way I get through that marathon without praying my way
Speaker 1: through the whole thing. And then when I'm gonna fail,
Speaker 1: this lady is like screaming at me, looking my eyes,
Speaker 1: told me exactly what I need to hear to get
Speaker 1: me past that that mill and I did. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was literally I was like the lights were going off,
Speaker 1: the people were packing up the bagels like people are
Speaker 1: going home. When I finished, like it was late, it
Speaker 1: was dark. My friends had finished two hours ago there,
Speaker 1: but I made it. But I made it a cause
Speaker 1: people around you seen your citizens and let me finished
Speaker 1: us a lot of money. But anyway, but now you
Speaker 1: can't tell me nothing. Congratulations of congratulations, you can do anything.
Speaker 1: You can do anything? Really is it because you wanted
Speaker 1: them like strong minded people? It's just it was the
Speaker 1: bucket this thing. No, I'm strong minded when I when
Speaker 1: I'm locked in, you know what I'm saying. If it's
Speaker 1: something like I don't nobody wants to bell right, like
Speaker 1: you want to push yourself, And I knew I was
Speaker 1: going to have to push myself. It wasn't like a
Speaker 1: real thing, but it was a good exercise for me
Speaker 1: to know, Like, honestly, your mind is like way stronger
Speaker 1: than you think it is when you're put in that
Speaker 1: position that you have to be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you told me we're outside right now to minds,
Speaker 1: I probably couldn't do it. But if you put a
Speaker 1: gun to my head and you will, like run two miles,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run two miles. And that's not only because
Speaker 1: and that's your mind, right, that's your You have to
Speaker 1: be able to know the drellaline because the thing about it,
Speaker 1: like I just want to be clear with the people,
Speaker 1: It wasn't like Power one of five was like I
Speaker 1: supposed to be the station to take Hot nine down.
Speaker 1: Like it was still secondary, right, Like I mean at
Speaker 1: this time, I mean coming up, I mean our heart
Speaker 1: you know later on, but at this point, like this,
Speaker 1: this is how New York City was looking at it.
Speaker 1: Like back in the day, it was looking at it
Speaker 1: like it was the A side and Power was the
Speaker 1: B side. Yeah, that's always how the underdog starts. They
Speaker 1: were the underdog. Um so did they have something to
Speaker 1: do with your drive of completing it? It really wasn't
Speaker 1: about how or power. It's about my own energy and
Speaker 1: giving myself new energy, giving myself the freedom to try
Speaker 1: something else. And it's okay no matter what nobody says,
Speaker 1: what people's opinion is. I'm curious about how to with
Speaker 1: another way. I've been doing it this one way for
Speaker 1: so long. I'm curious to what's going over here. I was.
Speaker 1: I was excited to work with the Breakfast Club, even
Speaker 1: though you know, I liked what they were doing. I
Speaker 1: like what my Heart was doing as a company. They
Speaker 1: were doing these big heart festivals, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: experience that too, and I didn't and personally, in my
Speaker 1: heart and my gut, I didn't feel anything wrong with it.
Speaker 1: So I just didn't want to let other people's ideas
Speaker 1: kind of dictate what the rest of my career had
Speaker 1: to look like, because then you because when you don't,
Speaker 1: because listen, if you don't take control of your own
Speaker 1: self and your own destiny and you allow other people
Speaker 1: to run that ship, that ship could take a turn
Speaker 1: and you don't have no control of it, and then
Speaker 1: then what So I was really like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive this ship, like I'm gonna take control
Speaker 1: of this and do what I want to do. Otherwise
Speaker 1: could easily you know, So how how because um we
Speaker 1: spoke about like you seeing jay Z the Rise of
Speaker 1: jay Z and then now you like you work with
Speaker 1: rock Nation, you have Hells with title and things like that.
Speaker 1: Was that easy for you to do that or was
Speaker 1: that was that a process as well? What do you
Speaker 1: mean like I'm just getting into business because you get
Speaker 1: to see this guy, he comes up as an artist
Speaker 1: and now, let let's be honest, Jay is not coming
Speaker 1: to my meetings with me you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's his company and I respected and he has been
Speaker 1: a good like I used my call sparingly, like I
Speaker 1: don't call him for everything, but if something big happens
Speaker 1: and I'm really confused about something or I need help,
Speaker 1: he has been gracious like that to me, Like I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I really want to run something by you,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't waste those on small things.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I call him when it's
Speaker 1: something I really feel, and he's always been good to
Speaker 1: me that way. So being with rock Nation, it's not
Speaker 1: like Jay's hands on it with my career, but it's
Speaker 1: what he built. So it's this, it's a it's um.
Speaker 1: You know, there's an integrity about what he's done, and
Speaker 1: it's an integrity about how he runs rock Nation, and
Speaker 1: it's the people to you know, they what I feel like,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the thing is Like you said it earlier,
Speaker 1: he was like, we don't own stock and you know,
Speaker 1: hot and power. But the thing is like what title.
Speaker 1: It's like, we don't we can't call anybody at Apple
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about not you know, we could call um,
Speaker 1: what's my man? Named Larry Jackson. God bless him. He's
Speaker 1: a great guy. But you don't. But you don't only neither,
Speaker 1: So like, at what point are we going to start
Speaker 1: doing that? But if you ask me, do I support
Speaker 1: what I support title before? I support Apple? Absolutely? Does
Speaker 1: it mean I wouldn't do some of that? No? But
Speaker 1: why wouldn't we do that? We should? We should support
Speaker 1: that in every way. I mean same what you sit
Speaker 1: here and vote drinking the rock, like you know, it's like, goddamn,
Speaker 1: we don't vote drinking the rock. We should try. I
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't always work because sometimes people what people build,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really connect. But when you can, we should
Speaker 1: support those we want to have. You know, we should
Speaker 1: be able to alright have those platforms and you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So, um, yes, before we get out
Speaker 1: of here, um, I would like to continue you in
Speaker 1: the picture with DJ Khalin, I really want you to
Speaker 1: say Kalid Caliver friends like kid and I would like
Speaker 1: because I'm proud of the guy. I'm very proud of
Speaker 1: the guy. I know I from this proud of the guy.
Speaker 1: He's Miami's very ask any questions because I feel like no,
Speaker 1: I'm just sayings like and it's like us. But how
Speaker 1: crazy is the house? Holy moldy house is insane. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not so much that it's I feel like he
Speaker 1: told his interior decorator kill Puff Daddy ship. I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest. I just feel like I just feel like
Speaker 1: he took his terry decorator as his friend. He's like
Speaker 1: this smike for Antonio and he never told Puff this
Speaker 1: is and he showed him every part of his crib
Speaker 1: and to kill it in every aspect. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he did that. Just be honestly, my mom, that's
Speaker 1: what happened. It's legal name was Antonio. My face. Interior
Speaker 1: decorating the ship was being honest in my mind. Houses,
Speaker 1: I made it up beautiful. It's a beautiful. But what
Speaker 1: I love about it it's not It doesn't feel cold
Speaker 1: like you know, people make a lot of money and
Speaker 1: then they buy these big houses and it feels like
Speaker 1: a museum. It doesn't feel like a home like house
Speaker 1: outside inside yeah yeah, but it's inside. I know there's
Speaker 1: TVs and I have no idea how to describe this.
Speaker 1: It's cute. It's outside inside, but it's outside like family
Speaker 1: friend and yeah, and he has listen listen. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've been the pup Crib, but pup Crib
Speaker 1: Scott Storch, same ship. They had their studio to the side,
Speaker 1: like when you walk into has Oh, I went to
Speaker 1: that quick he has the same exact thing, but he
Speaker 1: went to interior decorators destroyest ship. It is very well
Speaker 1: decorated in my opinion, because listen, listen, college kid Callig,
Speaker 1: Kalid Chalet and Joe is looking like the illest competition.
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like, you know, brother competition. So
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you know Joe has
Speaker 1: the million dollar Ortumar forgets it's like a million dollars.
Speaker 1: Like I'm bragged about having a friend that has a watch,
Speaker 1: it's a million dollars. Two days later, College used to
Speaker 1: protect Kalig. Well, he gets Calli's name, and in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think he went to his jew and
Speaker 1: said kill Joe ship. But Joe candy Man, because Joe
Speaker 1: taught him that level of competition. He pretty much Joe
Speaker 1: put him on this way from the beginning. That's a
Speaker 1: fact that I'm so happy and proud of College. I
Speaker 1: am proud of College too. Give me one more watermelon.
Speaker 1: Before we get up out of head, let me get
Speaker 1: one more watermelon. But what is your favorite? What's your favorite?
Speaker 1: We are actually everybody this What is your favorite time
Speaker 1: by hip hop? What is your favorite laft? Whether you
Speaker 1: was involved with it or not, that's really hard to say.
Speaker 1: I mean, m you know because as a fan, as
Speaker 1: a fan, it was when I was a kid coming up.
Speaker 1: That's why what got me in and it was it
Speaker 1: was two times right, it was rock Him because that's
Speaker 1: the time brock Cam is the time he's a period
Speaker 1: interview rock Him, interview you interview a sat Rocky who
Speaker 1: reveal that he was named that he was named the
Speaker 1: rock together. That's why I was like, that's one of
Speaker 1: your favorite But I didn't that one. I'm sorry. Yeah
Speaker 1: you google the fear I saw that no Google that
Speaker 1: it was no Google back then. That was live on
Speaker 1: Hot Ony seven and he brought his mother was one
Speaker 1: of my now he called his mother on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. But I know that I knew that
Speaker 1: Rocky was named after rock Camp. Had he had told
Speaker 1: me that on my show And then the next time
Speaker 1: he came and this is to look at rock Camp.
Speaker 1: How gracious he is he had, he wasn't promoting that
Speaker 1: he'd have no reason to come, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I would really like you to come meet this guy.
Speaker 1: He was named after you, you know. And he came,
Speaker 1: and you know, if you know anything about rock camp
Speaker 1: getting him somewhere on time, we're trying to get him
Speaker 1: and then on time, right, so he had to be
Speaker 1: at a certain time otherwise he was gonna miss Rocky
Speaker 1: would have defeated the whole purpose. He came. He came
Speaker 1: on time. He was so dope and humble, and that's
Speaker 1: what I love about him. Number one, he's to me
Speaker 1: one of the greatest ever. And then also he's super humble,
Speaker 1: and he's just my brand and my type of rapper,
Speaker 1: Like he's not really like he's what made me fall
Speaker 1: in love with hip hop. Like that's all that was
Speaker 1: like a brown mm hmm before we get about hit,
Speaker 1: is there anybody that you hated and then you like,
Speaker 1: you ask people questions and you don't let the finish start.
Speaker 1: I'm very good anyway. Spanish over No Rock was probably
Speaker 1: personally one of my favorite errors. Then also ros I
Speaker 1: very much enjoyed the Black Medallion. I was very much
Speaker 1: like a tribe Leader's Jungle Brother You said, like I
Speaker 1: think of that black all that I was native to.
Speaker 1: All that was definitely like I know probably all the
Speaker 1: words a Younger Brothers album, like all the words me
Speaker 1: and Mary will do being by the way Mary took
Speaker 1: me and Mary will line for line. I could do
Speaker 1: a Junger Brother Soffie like the line for line. Still
Speaker 1: know all the words so that time. But then, as
Speaker 1: in my career, it's too many good there's too much
Speaker 1: good stuff. You gotta have one moment though, where it
Speaker 1: was like, what was the moment that you like you,
Speaker 1: that you like you knew that this was for you?
Speaker 1: I mean different different ways, different times. I think the
Speaker 1: Park interview made me feel like the Park interview made
Speaker 1: me feel like I could do things that could matter
Speaker 1: and how was your dinner? Park interview It made me
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, I could actually contribute to how things
Speaker 1: get presented, how things could be shaped, and I could
Speaker 1: actually help or hurt or I just started making me
Speaker 1: understand that. But then it's a called pull. Moments after
Speaker 1: I had a baby, I was feeling disconnected, and then
Speaker 1: when I came back, that was when the r Kelly
Speaker 1: jay Z thing happened. Remember that at the concert when
Speaker 1: R Kelly the Then both of them came to my
Speaker 1: show in the middle of the night, remember that. Oh,
Speaker 1: and he had left McDonald's or some art. You know.
Speaker 1: What happened was the show ended. R Kelly broke out.
Speaker 1: Ja had to finish the whole concert by himself. And
Speaker 1: I'm in the parking lot, by the way, I just
Speaker 1: come back from Eternity leave. I have been feeling disconnected.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I love this
Speaker 1: ship anymore. I'm I haven't had, you know. I was
Speaker 1: feeling like And then I was in the park a
Speaker 1: lot and Mike Kaiser called me. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: Jay wants to come to the station. Now it's late,
Speaker 1: it's not even my shift. And He's like, but he
Speaker 1: only wants to talk to you, So, um, can you
Speaker 1: go to the station? Who wants to meet you there
Speaker 1: right now? So I'm like, okay, yeah, of course. You
Speaker 1: know this big thing just happened at the garden. He
Speaker 1: was r Kelly broke out, Twitter the Internet, but everybody's talking,
Speaker 1: everybody's outside the concert. I'm at the parking lot going
Speaker 1: to the parking lot and Kaiser called me. It was
Speaker 1: like Jay wants to come up. So I call whoever
Speaker 1: was on the station I think was Big Dennis. I
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I need to get on. You can stay,
Speaker 1: but you you got to get up the air because
Speaker 1: Jay wants to come when he wants to me. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we worked all that out and then Jay came and
Speaker 1: he gave me the whole story. But it's the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. Everybody's tuned in. He had this big
Speaker 1: thing just happened at the concert. And then while I'm there,
Speaker 1: I get the call that R Kelly's listening and R
Speaker 1: Kelly wants to come now. Yeah, so this is now.
Speaker 1: It's like one am, two am. I'm on the radio
Speaker 1: in the middle of everybody's listening because it's ship just
Speaker 1: happened at the garden. And I told you it was
Speaker 1: like Kelly wants He's like, you could talk to him.
Speaker 1: We're just about done anyway, So Jay Z tells this
Speaker 1: type of story and he leaves, and then like a
Speaker 1: few minutes later, R Kelly walks in and I do
Speaker 1: the R Kelly sounded. It was so crazy. The whole
Speaker 1: thing was just so crazy that I was like, this
Speaker 1: is my ship, Like this is so good. I felt
Speaker 1: I just felt like this is I'm good at this,
Speaker 1: Like I'm good at this. I felt like even when
Speaker 1: I even now, if I go listen to the interview,
Speaker 1: I was like, I wouldn't have changed anything about what
Speaker 1: I asked how it happened. But you know, but also
Speaker 1: when you love what you do, sometimes when you when
Speaker 1: you're putting like whatever you do, if you play baseball
Speaker 1: and now you're at the World Series, you're like, this
Speaker 1: is my ship, this is what I came to do.
Speaker 1: So when you have those big moments and those big
Speaker 1: interviews and you deliver, it gets those juices go, you
Speaker 1: know what you feel and I and so that made me.
Speaker 1: That brought me back to work like that was like
Speaker 1: post maternity. I just came back. I was just going
Speaker 1: to feel like myself again. And then that interview happened.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is this is let's go, like,
Speaker 1: I'm back. I felt like I had been. Was that
Speaker 1: your favorite interview? No, I wasn't my favorite, but it
Speaker 1: just had my favorite. No, that's too hard. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did you have you ever felt as a Latina that
Speaker 1: there was ever anything against you being Latina? That's a
Speaker 1: good question. No, not you know what, what I noticed
Speaker 1: because if you're from New York, you know that if
Speaker 1: you Puerto Rican and black, we grew up in the
Speaker 1: same way. There was no separation. Like I didn't even
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that outside of New York things
Speaker 1: were different away from New York, and so in New York,
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal because I'm Puerto Rican and
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican and Black. We grew up the same. We
Speaker 1: go to the same corner store, we talked the same,
Speaker 1: everybody smokes Newports, everybody like it was like we lived
Speaker 1: the same life. So there wasn't a real separation. I
Speaker 1: know it's in different cities. It wasn't like that, But
Speaker 1: it was until I got on and then I would
Speaker 1: travel that people would be surprised, like, oh, who's this.
Speaker 1: Remember one time I was somewhere early in my career,
Speaker 1: just started traveling a little bit, hosting parties. It wasn't
Speaker 1: even l A was whatever another city and somebody said
Speaker 1: to me, who you Lisa Lisa. I was like, Lisa Lisa,
Speaker 1: because that's the only reference of a Latina even in
Speaker 1: the space that they ever had. It was such a
Speaker 1: weird and I was like, wow, people I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize until I went out of town that there was.
Speaker 1: But in New York that was never a thing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I love Salam always says
Speaker 1: the Salam just said this to me. I saw him
Speaker 1: earlier that he noticed that after I had, you know,
Speaker 1: become something on the radio, that he noticed that a
Speaker 1: lot of radio stations across the country started putting employing
Speaker 1: like an Angie Martinez. It's still to this day. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that there's still to this day like
Speaker 1: that everywhere, like actually that it's called that's like the
Speaker 1: most flattering things, like when I speak to independence and
Speaker 1: I'd be like like, oh, normal, um, you know l A,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she has the Angie slot. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty great. That's dope, It's amazing, amazing. So I
Speaker 1: would actually, what's the proudest moment? But you know this
Speaker 1: is drink champce, So what is the moment that you
Speaker 1: wish you could have took back? Who's the worst moment?
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know if I have a
Speaker 1: good answer for the question, because I hate to answer
Speaker 1: because I always ask people this question and then they're
Speaker 1: like you know, everything happens for a reason, So I
Speaker 1: don't think this is a drink chance. But it's such
Speaker 1: a shitty answer. I never want to say it, but
Speaker 1: it really is the truth. You learned from every situation. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's things that would have done different, though
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I can't think of him
Speaker 1: right now. That's a whack answer right now. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You can edit that part out. You don't. Now. We
Speaker 1: try not to as a little as possible. We had
Speaker 1: the guy Rory here, he tried to edit and it
Speaker 1: didn't go right. He tried to trying to edit. To
Speaker 1: think about this, we want to be as raw as
Speaker 1: it is. And I want to tell you, you know,
Speaker 1: to your face, um, when it comes to media, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you my godfather, but I gotta remember
Speaker 1: like you're like you're you know, godmother, because like I've
Speaker 1: said this a couple of times, but I want to
Speaker 1: say this on our plan for him. I remember me
Speaker 1: and a she I just finally had the number one
Speaker 1: because I had to r e that hit number one
Speaker 1: on the Battle of the Beach and the number one
Speaker 1: on Hot nine. But I was on the road. But
Speaker 1: when super Dog hit number one, I was in New
Speaker 1: York City and I remember this like it was yesterday,
Speaker 1: and you you called me up and he was like,
Speaker 1: bo and I guess, you know, like when I like
Speaker 1: person hit number one, they like they like to borrow
Speaker 1: this interview, and I guess I was like, I was
Speaker 1: just energetic, and he was like, Okay, you built for this.
Speaker 1: And you said to me, you know I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: sick on Wednesday, so you're gonna fill in for me.
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for that, so I went and
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember it was because I remember the
Speaker 1: the number for Honey seven. And um, I don't remember
Speaker 1: if I knew the number because I was practicing, or
Speaker 1: knew the number because I used to be thirsty trying
Speaker 1: to call in to get my record play. But I
Speaker 1: remember how I just putting me in that position. And
Speaker 1: and that's the very first time I actually got love
Speaker 1: to interview somebody to deliver information. I always wanted the
Speaker 1: information to be delivered to me, and you saw that
Speaker 1: in me, and I know you didn't really know, but
Speaker 1: but you didn't really know because you're like a gurule. No.
Speaker 1: This is a thing thing I can see that in people.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll see, like, I don't know that you could,
Speaker 1: because you have to be able to command the conversation
Speaker 1: and deliver and have a perspective and not be afraid
Speaker 1: to have an opinion or I don't know, just just
Speaker 1: be engaging. There's people that could talk all day, talk day,
Speaker 1: and who cares. But then there's people who can talk
Speaker 1: all day and then you you're paying attention for some
Speaker 1: reason and something about your delivery that keeps your attention,
Speaker 1: and that to me is what we all strive to
Speaker 1: be able to do. Um. So sometimes I could see
Speaker 1: that in people, whether it be on there or even
Speaker 1: Joe Button too. We saw that earlier Joe um back
Speaker 1: him up, bat him up to him. He always had
Speaker 1: that too, Miss Lloyd's from Rappers transitioning because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, for so long it was either you you know,
Speaker 1: have a jump shot or after after your career is over,
Speaker 1: it's done, it's done, which is so whack. That's whack
Speaker 1: a cultural community. How do you grow like that? You
Speaker 1: don't have a perspective, You can't only have one perspective
Speaker 1: like I was trying, like, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to have an old g perspective too, and I know
Speaker 1: you hate the word you do have to balance. It's like,
Speaker 1: we spent all this time to create this culture that
Speaker 1: you're just gonna leave it in the hands of the inexperience.
Speaker 1: You want to give the inexperience and the new the
Speaker 1: opportunity to grow and have their own lane. And that's great,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to negate all the lessons and
Speaker 1: all the things that we have learned and also to
Speaker 1: be able to elevate it and pick people up by Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big home with little programs were important, but like
Speaker 1: I mean, and we've advocated for us to have a
Speaker 1: hip hop union, meaning like we ain't organizing the unfortunately
Speaker 1: you know what not anyway, but I think I think
Speaker 1: with Nipsies pass and I think this is Nipsey would
Speaker 1: have been somebody to help lead something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because because the thing about it is like, if Caress
Speaker 1: gets sick right now, I don't believe that it's on
Speaker 1: the responsibility of his family. I believe that he gave
Speaker 1: hip hop so much that he should get something back
Speaker 1: that I mean, not even get something back. His bill
Speaker 1: should be taken care of. He should have no worries
Speaker 1: do you do you believe. Of course I believe that.
Speaker 1: I wish we were not organized. And I've heard people
Speaker 1: have this conversation over the years, but like, who's our leader,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how that happens or how
Speaker 1: we do have leaders that could I think and I
Speaker 1: think should give the money to David Banner and kill him. Mike,
Speaker 1: they don't trust them, they don't have they can create
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, I mean I think it should trying
Speaker 1: to kill him. I think SAG is a perfect example
Speaker 1: of what we could create in hip hop right now
Speaker 1: because all levels you can be and you ca look,
Speaker 1: there is another thing. They sent me a letter the
Speaker 1: other day. I was I felt offended. They said, this
Speaker 1: is my retirement of the company. Other then it was
Speaker 1: so it's a sack, it's the sad of music business.
Speaker 1: And they gave me they say, yo, listen, here's your yo.
Speaker 1: Not not at all suits with the s No. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. It's something like that
Speaker 1: sounded no, no, no, this is that nothing to do
Speaker 1: this guy ship with your retirement. Yeah, this is a fact.
Speaker 1: I don't see sack. I don't know that sounds that's
Speaker 1: not that bang that you can tell you published you too,
Speaker 1: God damn all over the place. I have to pass
Speaker 1: you to Blunt because I passed everybody, and Blunt you
Speaker 1: just say no. You always say that I gotta past everybody.
Speaker 1: But I've been passing fact Joel Blunt for twenty one years.
Speaker 1: You know he hit one time. But it wasn't a blunt.
Speaker 1: It was a vapor was there. It was weird and
Speaker 1: there he had a point, a little CV. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: CBD pen CBD not the same thing. CBD s No,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I'm ready to let advocate for it. I
Speaker 1: got a company for you. Don't worry about it, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a company for you. Say it off there, okay,
Speaker 1: but listen, I am just want to tell you that
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, we love you. You don't have been
Speaker 1: holding down. I I want to do norma you know, no,
Speaker 1: no no, but guess what. Okay, we want to like
Speaker 1: I'm about to start. No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: But the thing is to me, no no. The thing is,
Speaker 1: it's so corny when people big people. Afterwards, I want
Speaker 1: to big you up. Why you're here. I wanted you
Speaker 1: to tell you, like to your face, like I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You saw something, you still something meat. Damn there, it
Speaker 1: was damn there fifteen maybe eighteen years ago, and you
Speaker 1: you told me feeling and I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: on Hot ninety seven. I had, I did what I
Speaker 1: But that moment leads up to and the thing about
Speaker 1: it is you've been relentless, You've been resilient on what
Speaker 1: you do. Don't worry about it. When we have be
Speaker 1: with Elliott Willson, we used to call us that Elliott
Speaker 1: wasn't trained because every time something he happens, like but
Speaker 1: we are even great placed a great place. So big
Speaker 1: up Elliott Wilson. It's not called the Elliot Wasn't trained
Speaker 1: no more. We call it the adjacent Elliott will Train.
Speaker 1: It's not him, but it's just played. But um in
Speaker 1: in in our world, it's so corny, like to big
Speaker 1: up the next person. And I want to change that.
Speaker 1: I want to change the narrative, but that I want
Speaker 1: people to sit down and say, you know what, what
Speaker 1: you do, what you do and what you did and
Speaker 1: what you've done is remarkable. And I would like to
Speaker 1: you to know that, I would like you for you
Speaker 1: to no, no, yeah, But we were talking about TMX
Speaker 1: Jim Jones got he cry. No, no, it was because
Speaker 1: it was doing in the middle of the Cameron thing
Speaker 1: and oh yeah yeah, remember that keep crying our shoe.
Speaker 1: He cried with Flex first and then we had him
Speaker 1: the very next day and yeah, but they're a great place.
Speaker 1: So big up to Jim, Big up to Cam kick
Speaker 1: if we did not cry laugh because okay, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: if we were about childhood, right, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever knew this story. Nobody wants
Speaker 1: to heart. Come on, got anything with this one? You?
Speaker 1: I got one record, I got l A l A
Speaker 1: maybe t r yse like coming out a little bit right.
Speaker 1: So I'm on to roll with I Canlelly, I can
Speaker 1: Letly's gonna roll with kicking Free so I don't smoke.
Speaker 1: I'm like the wink stuff, even though I'm the guy
Speaker 1: who smokes, like all they are dancers and then people
Speaker 1: who don't smoke or at least bust something fucked up.
Speaker 1: So every like, stop I want to see here, free
Speaker 1: can see smokes. So we stopped bing here just good
Speaker 1: reasons to me. You ever seen tape, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he's gonna play me some DJ you know,
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody's going I'm nervous, so I'm thinking something.
Speaker 1: I think you read babies from tape like something like that.
Speaker 1: So I was going on this rule and he got
Speaker 1: he got to save you. At the time, like the time,
Speaker 1: I felt like holy ship stick say and we like,
Speaker 1: he don't want to leave. It's my best friend. But
Speaker 1: little did I don't know? He said, you ever see
Speaker 1: my tapes? I said, no, I haven't, and he bloods
Speaker 1: in the date. I fast forward a couple of pots,
Speaker 1: but he ended up with his legs like looking, why
Speaker 1: would you show you that. I'm like nineteen years old,
Speaker 1: I'm scarred and this is my favorite teacher. Just get
Speaker 1: a prey and I'm sitting there, you tell this story. No,
Speaker 1: he cris but he's like that he literally want it
Speaker 1: churned out and he's like, yeah, you never make that.
Speaker 1: From that moment on, I was scared. I would never ever.
Speaker 1: This is horrible, terrible like this, so you're another bigger
Speaker 1: before I can't take. Yeah, but listen, from that moment,
Speaker 1: I've never been to another man's room. But it's like,
Speaker 1: you're come on, smoke. I I'm good because I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna show me. I went to, I
Speaker 1: went to you went to Oh my god, so you came,
Speaker 1: you hung out and did I enjoyed myself to this
Speaker 1: was thank you for joining. Yes, and you have your
Speaker 1: own show I do. This is like your your nineteen
Speaker 1: hundred show. You are be getting money for a long time.
Speaker 1: What do you mean hundred? Damn? You can show together too.
Speaker 1: We are going to do that. We're gonna day, We're
Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. Don't say it here. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's for somebody to beat us to it.
Speaker 1: You know we moved slow, Yes, beat us right. That's
Speaker 1: a good idea. So, um, what is your favorite part
Speaker 1: of the industry before we get up out of here?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite? Like? What do you can't deal with?
Speaker 1: Like we you can't live without? I like that. I
Speaker 1: like the idea of that, Like the opportunities are endless,
Speaker 1: and I like that we've been around long enough to
Speaker 1: see what you know, to watch somebody like Khalid go
Speaker 1: from a DJ to what he's been able to build,
Speaker 1: or watch somebody watch j and what he's been able
Speaker 1: to build, or you know, just a different world. How
Speaker 1: you been able to evolve, Like, yeah, I just saw
Speaker 1: Snoop the other day. I went to his compound and
Speaker 1: looking at what he's doing in l A, and it's
Speaker 1: I just feel like he should like scientology. Well it's
Speaker 1: kind of amazing. It's just like scientology, like you feel
Speaker 1: like incredible, you know, scientology, and he's amazing anyway. So
Speaker 1: I just feel like I never feel like there's not
Speaker 1: another thing I could do. I'm always chasing something else
Speaker 1: I'm ow and the opportunities like are endless, right, and
Speaker 1: so we could always grow, we could always There's always
Speaker 1: even if I just was doing radio, right and I
Speaker 1: didn't have these TV aspirations and things I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do in different spaces, even a radio, there's always a
Speaker 1: new artist to kind of understand and a new thing
Speaker 1: happening within the culture. It's just a forever evolving thing.
Speaker 1: So it just never gets boring, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: it's always I don't know, it's always growing and always
Speaker 1: you know, keep going. Okay, So when we interview every artist,
Speaker 1: we go through the discography. Oh god, that was something
Speaker 1: that you walk in here, Yeah, you were playing and
Speaker 1: your face was like, what are they doing you literally
Speaker 1: stop doing that. I don't really have to stop doing it.
Speaker 1: Don't to say something I used to be like that.
Speaker 1: You never like that reggae thrown. At one point when
Speaker 1: I felt like I represented for reggae thrown, like reggae
Speaker 1: thrown didn't represent for me. I was bitter. So I
Speaker 1: hated everything that I ever did. And then I realized,
Speaker 1: fun these guys accepted me or not. I set me
Speaker 1: and what I did this history, and I accepted that
Speaker 1: when you think you'll ever be there, it's different for me,
Speaker 1: right because because you really like you literally you walked
Speaker 1: to hand. Because I always compare it to like when
Speaker 1: you like somebody busting out, like let's say something everywhere
Speaker 1: you when somebody pulled out your junior high school photo,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, please stop pulling that. Same to me
Speaker 1: that time, I was like, it just feels. And also
Speaker 1: I didn't have the luxury of I was ready on
Speaker 1: the radio. I was ready doing so so by the
Speaker 1: time I started doing music, I'm a baby. I'm literally
Speaker 1: writing my first eight or as ever, like I'm learning
Speaker 1: how to do this, but in public it would be
Speaker 1: a DJ call it because he was you was you
Speaker 1: have to be his inspiration. But what I was saying
Speaker 1: is that I didn't get a chance to. So we
Speaker 1: did the first album, which I think was you know,
Speaker 1: it was okay. Second if I could go it was
Speaker 1: a top ten hit UM. But I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I gave myself the chance to evolve to the type
Speaker 1: of artists that I probably could have warned up becoming UM.
Speaker 1: And so because when I hear it, I hear the
Speaker 1: baby noess of it. I hear like like a fresh
Speaker 1: new artist who doesn't I'm still learning. I'm still learning.
Speaker 1: I'm not as good as I could have been or
Speaker 1: eventually been, right, And so when I hear it, now
Speaker 1: that's all I hear, it's like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it bothers me, but I have to get over that
Speaker 1: because what I realized I gotta get over because what
Speaker 1: I realized is that there are people that connected to it.
Speaker 1: So I'll get some girl I meet, some girls should
Speaker 1: be like, well I love this, so abody out and
Speaker 1: I'm like you did, And I don't want to take
Speaker 1: that away from her because I you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because of whatever my things are, So I really have
Speaker 1: to stop doing that. And you know how classic Ladies
Speaker 1: Night is. It was classic, yeah, super classic. Yeah, ladies
Speaker 1: and I was classic. And that was the first like,
Speaker 1: that was the first thing I ever wrote, was my
Speaker 1: verse for that. Like I never wrote anything in my
Speaker 1: whole life until I wrote my verse for Ladies Night.
Speaker 1: Before that, I've only been on one other song and
Speaker 1: kras One wrote it for me. So it was like
Speaker 1: I did that with Arrest that he wrote it was
Speaker 1: just like spit this and I was like okay. And
Speaker 1: then the next time Lance was like I want you
Speaker 1: to put you on. It was like, I want to
Speaker 1: put you on Ladies Night. And then I had to
Speaker 1: write a verse. Oh, I always thought that was your record.
Speaker 1: That was Kim's rick plenty tonight. Eight bars on the intro,
Speaker 1: that's all. I was like, you killed that, you killed it,
Speaker 1: Thank you you. I always thought it was your record,
Speaker 1: that's whatever you thought that was my record. Eight I
Speaker 1: was only on eight bars the intro. And then what
Speaker 1: what happened was because the other radio stations would hate
Speaker 1: because I was still on the air, the other radio
Speaker 1: stations would play the record without my eight bars, and
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, that's some real sucker ship.
Speaker 1: Even z One hundred, like the big pop radio station
Speaker 1: at the time. I'm like, I'm not even your competition,
Speaker 1: your pop. Why you cut my first off? Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Like Mad Stations did that? Of course
Speaker 1: the country that would cut my verse off of the
Speaker 1: song it skim song. And they put me on at
Speaker 1: the end, and I was happy to be there. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I traveled to the MTV Awards with them.
Speaker 1: I did. We got nominated for a Grammy. It was
Speaker 1: crazy or for eight bars my first date boars I
Speaker 1: ever broke. I got nominated for a Grammy with them, Angie.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know you're a super legend.
Speaker 1: You're a super queen in this game. Yeah, we love
Speaker 1: you so much. Um your you represent hip hop. Ah,
Speaker 1: you represented how to do business. I swear to God
Speaker 1: like you and Floyd was the first people like I realized, like,
Speaker 1: you'll put yourself before the corporation and put your family
Speaker 1: before it, and and the thing about it is, I
Speaker 1: just want you to know you appreciated. I want you
Speaker 1: to know the dynamics when I thought of everyone's top five, Um,
Speaker 1: I've interviewed not one of them. You know, I'm only
Speaker 1: three years in this game. But when I think of
Speaker 1: everybody's top five, there's no one's list of top five
Speaker 1: that you haven't had. Like anybody name your top five?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're a little wit. Come on the
Speaker 1: way you look at like Carros Yeah, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: okay as four guy, name the top five? Four man,
Speaker 1: Bibe Daddy Lauren m. That's a very poor going on,
Speaker 1: especially people at night. By the way, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and yes the top tive what's your top five? Jay
Speaker 1: z Young? You're so Kendrick's in there? No, I haven't done. Kendrick.
Speaker 1: We almost had a camera on time. Okay, we got
Speaker 1: one more. That's the only way it was. Once or
Speaker 1: twice we were supposed to come over here, come over
Speaker 1: here and listen. I'm gonna be honest. When you gave
Speaker 1: me baby powder. By the way, Kendrick, it's time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gave me baby powder. Gotta say, I gotta say
Speaker 1: pot huh, I got too short? Easy, Mr Lee, they
Speaker 1: gotta go easy ease on your top five? And who else? Wait?
Speaker 1: What was the last two? Ain't both of them? I
Speaker 1: would take the easy? Yes, you interviewed easy? Wait? Did
Speaker 1: an interview easy? Because I wasn't not in the air
Speaker 1: yet but met Easy and partied with Easy and because
Speaker 1: he was I don't know how Steve Rifkin knew them
Speaker 1: or whatever. But when I was coming up and me
Speaker 1: and Steve wi cool and I don't know, we're in
Speaker 1: the party, introduced us and we all hung out. And
Speaker 1: then so it's funny because I still have a business.
Speaker 1: He must get Easy must have gave me his business card.
Speaker 1: I still have Easy East business card. Like that was
Speaker 1: a flaw. That was a flaw. Oh wait, I have
Speaker 1: Easy East business card. I have Branson's business card. Flaws.
Speaker 1: He had a business and it was like music industry executive.
Speaker 1: It is what it says. I had that. I have
Speaker 1: a pack of Newports that me and Pop smoke. I
Speaker 1: have had the box as like a couple of segarettes
Speaker 1: cement I have. I have like a couple of key
Speaker 1: pieces of museum basically, how about the I have a
Speaker 1: couple of key little It's gonna go in Nazi's hip
Speaker 1: hop museum. You know naz Is. I love he's doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a few pieces. Look at the time, you
Speaker 1: got the new points that you smoke prop okay, I
Speaker 1: the Newport lights on Newport regulars. Alright, I need to
Speaker 1: know that he didn't know what type and these he
Speaker 1: smoke lights. I was going a different opinion and it
Speaker 1: had like one turned over. Oh he had a wish,
Speaker 1: you had a wish? Holy Ship was a real nigga? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is yeah, That's that's all I needed. That's all
Speaker 1: I needed. So, uh, what's the worst moment? Why I
Speaker 1: keep little things like that when I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a moment, like even when like I had the little
Speaker 1: thing that Chris Brown wants did on a piece of
Speaker 1: paper like a piece of art. When Takashi six nine
Speaker 1: was on my show, he was explaining to me the
Speaker 1: meaning of six nine because it wasn't what I expected,
Speaker 1: And so he took a piece of paper and he
Speaker 1: wrote the number six on it right, and he was
Speaker 1: like what do you see? And I was like six
Speaker 1: And he was like what do you see now? I
Speaker 1: was like nine and he was like, see, you just
Speaker 1: saw something from two different perspectives, um. And he talked
Speaker 1: about how you could see somebody who does a robbery
Speaker 1: and you could look at them and say, oh, he's terrible,
Speaker 1: he's a criminal, but if you flip it and you
Speaker 1: see them in a different way. You can see this
Speaker 1: is a father who's trying to feed this kid. I'm
Speaker 1: paraphrasing the story, but it was about being able to
Speaker 1: see people in different ways. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: so dope and interesting that I I kept a napkin.
Speaker 1: I kept a little napkin where he wrote the six
Speaker 1: of the nine because I thought this was like I felt,
Speaker 1: and I just felt in that moment. So I just
Speaker 1: found it the other day. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the sixth time napkin, and I put it with
Speaker 1: my other stuff and I kept it. But I have
Speaker 1: like little things like that that I'll keep if I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a moment. You ain't got anything from
Speaker 1: Joe to see for some reason, I feel like you got,
Speaker 1: like Joe Joe something. Let me just he has a
Speaker 1: tennis ball from Caress one from shot six three Carros
Speaker 1: when first came here. He has a ninety two and
Speaker 1: my mind is eight tennis ball with a signature on it.
Speaker 1: At the party party and who remembers that he has
Speaker 1: a tennis ball. I brought it to him on the
Speaker 1: interview him on the show. That's the craziest thing, all right,
Speaker 1: this isn't my song calling I have to dance, Okay,
Speaker 1: on here, you want me to, Well, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, yeah, hey baby, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is different. Okay, we're here. We're riding up right now.
Speaker 1: Mama's coming up to it. This is mama ship. She's
Speaker 1: she's a chance. Mommyya okay, I'm on my way back up.
Speaker 1: See in a few minutes, I killed that mommy, Ona.
Speaker 1: I had to pick up with my kid. That's that.
Speaker 1: So let's let's take some lor I think I think
Speaker 1: you were sitting down with us. So is there anything
Speaker 1: you want the people to know before you leave? When
Speaker 1: did that book come up? You got two books? You
Speaker 1: got two books. I do have to one about healthy
Speaker 1: Latin thing, cooking and eating what I did. But then
Speaker 1: I have my memoir, which is that was like a
Speaker 1: real book book, A long time to write, like I
Speaker 1: would do it again. I'm right, I'm actually in the
Speaker 1: process I probably shouldn't say this yet, but in the
Speaker 1: process of writing changing the book to a script Healthy
Speaker 1: Latin make a script book. I want to be in
Speaker 1: a movie, like I want to try to eat healthy too,
Speaker 1: the movie we would together. That's right. I was very awkward.
Speaker 1: I was Tuesday. He was Tuesday, very okay because like
Speaker 1: like we have developed his brother's just the like relationship.
Speaker 1: And then Dame we're in this movie. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: getting the band together. I was like, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't believing I'm wearing a rod. I'm not wearing
Speaker 1: a rock. We're gonna do that. He perfect, And we
Speaker 1: also did paper soldiers as well o paper soldiers. That's right.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, and I'll probably see a
Speaker 1: role for you in the movie. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: this a promise. It's probably be the next last question. Okay,
Speaker 1: didn't you ever think that Rock and Feller, like when
Speaker 1: you see like you know, Dame and Jay, was that
Speaker 1: you ever thought that you would see it here? Now? No,
Speaker 1: I don't even think anybody could. How could anybody see that?
Speaker 1: But you I definitely could feel that. It was not
Speaker 1: like anything else, like how they were moving and the
Speaker 1: ship they were talking and you know, and the big
Speaker 1: vision that they always had. Dame was always like we
Speaker 1: could do that ourselves. I could do that. I could honestly,
Speaker 1: that was very like influential to me. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if I even give Dame enough credit for that
Speaker 1: because watching him make those movies. Never had megan movies before,
Speaker 1: and he was like, we know the culture better than
Speaker 1: anybody else. We don't make our own movies. That was
Speaker 1: really like inspiring to me and made me see but
Speaker 1: it made me see things in a different way, like
Speaker 1: it's possible, but by the way, it's all possible. But
Speaker 1: you know, that was like and there was there was
Speaker 1: good to me too. I remember we did um you know,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to do American Idol one year. It
Speaker 1: was the first one. What happened with? What the funk?
Speaker 1: I do? Remember that? Is it true that you just
Speaker 1: didn't like turning down? I was very uncomfortable. The whole
Speaker 1: thing was really weird, and they wanted me to be
Speaker 1: this likely and I just was like I just wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling the whole. I can't be telling a lot of
Speaker 1: people they whack in their face. I can tell you
Speaker 1: whack behind your back, but like like a I don't
Speaker 1: want to hate to hurt nobody feelings in the face,
Speaker 1: so that you was going to be the latter didn't
Speaker 1: wanted me to be somewhat like that and I which
Speaker 1: just wasn't me. And I was also pregnant at the time,
Speaker 1: which they didn't know, so I was already emotional about it. Whatever.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'll tell you why I didn't do it
Speaker 1: in the first place. But when I got there, I
Speaker 1: needed stuff I needed. Like we were doing the runs.
Speaker 1: I went out with them on the road the first
Speaker 1: couple of days we did the Trials of the Earth
Speaker 1: and whatever, and I had hit Dame because you know,
Speaker 1: rock Boy was popping. I was like, damn, I need
Speaker 1: a box of clothes. I'm doing this thing for American
Speaker 1: I know. He was like what what he gave me?
Speaker 1: This whole lecture about this is great for you. You
Speaker 1: should do it, but you know you're gonna be around
Speaker 1: those people. You're just gonna move fast. People are gonna
Speaker 1: try to get you to change, keep people, keep the
Speaker 1: same people around you, because if you go into hollywooden
Speaker 1: you start doing that, you're gonna change. Don't let people
Speaker 1: change you, keep keep. And it just stayed with me,
Speaker 1: like make sure you keep people around you that keep
Speaker 1: you who you are, that you don't get lost in
Speaker 1: the whole other world. And like he let gave me
Speaker 1: like a lecture on it that always stayed with me also,
Speaker 1: but kind of Mr leea sonny around and up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take your cups into the back there, because you know
Speaker 1: Mr Lee will bring your cup in the bathroom and
Speaker 1: Sunny will break your right. But listen, listen what happens
Speaker 1: to people, right, Even rappers are artists. You You you
Speaker 1: come from a certain place, you you're handling yourself a
Speaker 1: certain way, and then all of a sudden you get
Speaker 1: these opportunities and these other spaces, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you're around people got are not from where you're from,
Speaker 1: and then all a sudden the changes your perspective and
Speaker 1: you start moving the front. I get that, and so
Speaker 1: it's important to keep people around you that it's not
Speaker 1: just to stay grounded, but it's yeah, I guess, stay
Speaker 1: grounded and give you that right perspective. And if you
Speaker 1: can't lose it, you could lose yourself if when you
Speaker 1: get too certain. And I watched it, I've seen it
Speaker 1: happened to many people. I know, many famous people, and
Speaker 1: I watched many famous people float off into this world
Speaker 1: and they're gone, and I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought that was just dope advice. And he cared so
Speaker 1: much the way he gave it to me. That I
Speaker 1: just always you know what I mean. I appreciated that
Speaker 1: as anybody ever been. Anybody like fronted on you and
Speaker 1: then they got and then they like they got go
Speaker 1: washed up and you was happy about it, like fun
Speaker 1: ever happy about it. I went to Allah. I'm in
Speaker 1: completely have cases because you know how many people see
Speaker 1: come and come and go. You know, they've been looking
Speaker 1: at me like I don't know waft and they're like
Speaker 1: the old man. I'm like, they're not alone man, and
Speaker 1: then they'll say alright, cool and then they didn't man that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got their go fronts. But here's what's whack. You
Speaker 1: don't ever want to karma is I believe in karma, right,
Speaker 1: So somebody does me something dirty, I go, you hold that,
Speaker 1: you hold that karma. I'm gonna go keep it pushing
Speaker 1: and try to do what I had to do. But
Speaker 1: when the karma comes, because it always comes, I make
Speaker 1: sure that I don't rejoice and whatever, because that's because
Speaker 1: they're not bringing me back into it. And I see
Speaker 1: that with people happen. You don't spike the ball when
Speaker 1: you see something like now, I don't do it. I
Speaker 1: don't do it because sometimes I do. I'm I'm very like,
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm very particular about my energy just going on
Speaker 1: certain people Instagram, but like, all right, he's still hurting
Speaker 1: that that's cool stuff. Ain't get up at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sometimes to do it, i'd be fair, I'll be afraid
Speaker 1: of God. I'm afraid to have those type of thoughts
Speaker 1: because I feel like God see me, and he'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh really, no, I don't have those thoughts. But I
Speaker 1: look and I say, Okay, that's a that's not just
Speaker 1: the thought, it's an action. It's too bad things. I've
Speaker 1: been afraid to let myself go into a negative place
Speaker 1: like that because I feel like I will be punished
Speaker 1: for that. I feel like then Mike Carment is gonna
Speaker 1: come back to me. So I'm very careful about that.
Speaker 1: So I just let people we have their thing. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I have a problem with somebody and somebody come
Speaker 1: back around and be like, you see what's happened to them?
Speaker 1: Now that's what they get, And I'm like, don't please,
Speaker 1: don't bring that, don't bring that on again to me.
Speaker 1: This happened recently. But you do that. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you heard what happening, right, I told that's me helping me. Honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm pretty but you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what got me like like, I have to start
Speaker 1: realizing that sometimes you just gotta be petty. Listen, out
Speaker 1: of out of how many seconds of the day there is,
Speaker 1: you allowed twelve seconds to hate. That's a lie in
Speaker 1: the particulars twelve seconds to hate on some ship, only
Speaker 1: twelve seconds to day. You guess what's gonna happen to you?
Speaker 1: Twelve this seconds. It's gonna come back to yours at
Speaker 1: some point. No, that's why it's twelve seconds. You just
Speaker 1: get awad of it. You never think about it scientific
Speaker 1: like how did you come up with that number? That's
Speaker 1: how I called it. Called it blow blow fucking, blow fucking,
Speaker 1: blow fucking and just just seconds. Nobody at home take
Speaker 1: this advice. This is terrible advice. No, I definitely didn't
Speaker 1: tell them to take my advice, and I'll tell them
Speaker 1: this is just mine. I like to go to Costcoles
Speaker 1: a piece of ship for twelve You allowed twelve seconds
Speaker 1: to be allowed. No, no, no, no, I'm not telling
Speaker 1: you to like to put you on Twitter, not telling
Speaker 1: you to put it on social media. I'm saying twelve sex,
Speaker 1: and you're like, if you want to sit because my
Speaker 1: man right there, he got on George. Right, he has George.
Speaker 1: We got to talk George. Like George jeans shorts. Now
Speaker 1: in New York, those are got shorts. Those are George.
Speaker 1: George short pants. It's called George. They're short pants in
Speaker 1: New York. And in New York they're frowned upon. You are.
Speaker 1: So that's my mind. In my mind, when I looked
Speaker 1: at this George, I like him as a person.