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Speaker 1: this is Drake Champs, motherfucker? Yeah yeah, right now. When

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Speaker 1: It's probably not best for him to talk right now.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna push it and be like you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't if I was Drake. But I also think let

424
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: a little time pass. But it's fun because it's like

425
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: he's got nothing to win or lose, you know, you know,

426
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: you know what, I think it would be funny, Like

427
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: like I think that him and meet together, You're gonna

428
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: ask him about push. You gotta ask him about it.

429
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to talk as Birdman. Burtman sat in

430
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: the same exact seat that you was. That I asked

431
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: him everything. I asked him in the polite way, in

432
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: the way that is niggerish, so he felt doble and

433
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: and I'll do the same exact thing. The thing is,

434
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm when you were too my world. You know what

435
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like um and we respect the

436
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: Dodge and we respected like yeah yeah, like yeah, like this,

437
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: like I know this sort of rappers that won't come

438
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: to me because I'm like the FBI, like I already

439
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: know the question that I'm askings never come back, like

440
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm never doing it. By the way, that's the first

441
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: thing that fact Joe said. But I was telling that today.

442
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: I said when we um I saw speaking about fIF TV,

443
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, no, I'm never coming back. But

444
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: it is so peaceful here pleasant here. No, but um

445
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: the baby ye but okay, No, No, I got switching

446
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: it up. I was switching it up. It was because

447
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: we were talking about battling and we were talking about

448
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: draking to push your teeth. You also had a crazy

449
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: moment when after Ether came out, Jay came out with

450
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: this record superbly, and then Jay actually apologized on your

451
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: show And did you see that coming? Because no, I

452
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: never see that coming, right, So what does what does

453
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: he do? He calls you and says he's coming up

454
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: because it was through the phone. No, first of all,

455
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: I think Jay got the bad end of that deal,

456
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: because it really should have been takeover versus either. Those

457
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: were the two of their better records. We took my

458
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Battle of the Beats. It was the battle we did

459
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: on hold, on, Hold, on hold on the days I

460
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 1: got described this to the fast Okay at this point,

461
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: don't hit them the table, Okay. So it's the podcast

462
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: was totally different from from when he was over there.

463
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: But listen, Battle of the Beats meant so much like

464
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: you literally if he was on the Battle of the Beach,

465
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: you literally went outside in your hood and told everyone,

466
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: call is fucking number and vote for me. Crazy. That

467
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: gets the battle to beat if you want, you will

468
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: proceed to the next night. You weren't fives. I mean

469
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: we had Miami, but you know you got ye kind

470
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: of created something like that mixed we got already stuff

471
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: from so anyway, so when that way, you know who

472
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: helped me come up with that name was Salon, So yeah,

473
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: we want the phone mad. Later, I was like, I

474
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: want to do something. When we put two songs against

475
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: each other, blah blah, and we were throwing names around

476
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: all night, what's happening? Asian friend man came up with

477
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: the name Battle of beast and then Salam went and

478
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: had Lauren Hill to the promo for me. So what happens?

479
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: She was like, fine, it was Lauren singing if you

480
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: win five? What was it? Five in the row? Yeah,

481
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: then you go into like a hall of fame. Did

482
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: you go into the hall of fame? But did you

483
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: like actually get added to like like rotation in the station? Yeah?

484
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: Huge at the time. Okay, so battle Way, you know,

485
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: that was like I was starting my career, so I

486
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about my pal. You just started at

487
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: that time. I mean I was I thought you guy

488
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: felt like I was just starting. But I was already

489
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: on nighttime. I'm so bad at years. Don't ask me.

490
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nineties. Nineties yeah, mid nineties, and I

491
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: have went from doing overnights. I was on like two

492
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: and am they gave me this nighttime shift. It was

493
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: like a big deal, like oh ship people are like

494
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: a wake and hear me on the radio. And so

495
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, all right, I gotta make

496
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: a show. And I came up with bad a little

497
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: beats and no, I'm not understanding the power of it

498
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: yet because we're developing it. There's no such thing as

499
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: hip hop radia, like we're making it happen. This is

500
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: so I just came up with it because it's was

501
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: something fun to do, okay. So but people started taking

502
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: it really like it became like a thing like I

503
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: remember lee Or calling calling me because I have put

504
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: cannabis against I had a call from le Or Okay,

505
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: like what and what is he saying? What mean for

506
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: must win? This? Basically we would do when we have

507
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: to do MG to make sure like it's not up

508
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: to you, it's not up to me whatever. Whatever the

509
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: phone calls is, who what do you want me to do? Okay?

510
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: So batnd of beats happens. It was jas it was

511
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: ether again super ugly. Well that was years later. In

512
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: the beginning, no, I'm asking for From the beginning it

513
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: was no. But at the beginning is how I met

514
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: J because I have put it. Remember Ellen Scratch, you

515
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: remember that second I do remember if you said I'll

516
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: taker night an I'll taker It was another song I

517
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: don't remember the name right now. So Ellen L. Scratch

518
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: had a new song now and I put it in

519
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: bat little Beats and I was like, I need somebody

520
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: to go against this. And there was some kid from Brooklyn,

521
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: jay Z ain't nigga and before it was before that,

522
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: it was in my lifetime. In my lifetime, I put

523
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: it against um Scratch. We didn't know who Jay was

524
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: at the time. I just put it up j bodied

525
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: Ellen Scratch. But it was ridiculous. I was like, who

526
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: is this guy? Like, who is jay Z? Who is

527
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: this guy? Why is the phone's going so crazy? And

528
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: then um, I mean years later, Jay told me they

529
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: paid people to call all night. But he told me

530
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that that right now. But he told me that later,

531
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: but it really got my attention. And then he wont

532
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: he won for like a few nights in a row.

533
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: And then him and Dame showed up at the station

534
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: and they want me like Champagne and they showed up

535
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: in the rock the Rocket Feller buggy Ete Bends and

536
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: it was like a big thing. I don't never remember.

537
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm struggling, what do you mean? You know? I just said,

538
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: they showed up in a buggy et Bens with their

539
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: logo on it with videos and that was that was

540
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: never remember them struggling like I've never like you know,

541
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: like you know this, there's a time in the rapper's

542
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: life where you know, the train is essential, it's a

543
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: part of it. I can't imagine him. It's like it's

544
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: like waking up in the morning, taking a ship, brushing

545
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: your teeth, and the train, it's all most of the

546
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: big all that time. I don't think I've ever seen

547
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: like James underground. He looked like he was, yeah, I've

548
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: never I've never seen totally remember him in Queens and

549
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: he was and he was buying chrystal back then, and

550
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I was just like, what is that? But that was

551
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: part of the appeal, right, like this guy, why does

552
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: he have this money? What's happening? Okay? So Battle of

553
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: Beats happened anyway, so it became a thing where people

554
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: were like really cared, and it was fascinating to me,

555
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: like when he was actually all of a sudden really

556
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: really cared that the apology. Did he call up or

557
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: did he come up? I forgot I forgot that part. No,

558
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: he was at the station that was So that was

559
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: years later. So Battle of the Beats had this legacy

560
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: and then then the years was over. Whatever flex was

561
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: like when the ether thing happened, he was like, we

562
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: got to bring Battle and Beats back for this thing.

563
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: And then so we did that for and it was

564
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: eat the verse super ugly and of course eat the one, um.

565
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: And then I think, guy, he was at the station.

566
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember listening to this. I remember listening to this,

567
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I know. OK. So it was a lot of people there.

568
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: But literally, as I was announcing the winner is NAS,

569
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: I could see from my peripheral in the window, I

570
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: could see Jay walking in and I like the winners.

571
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: He contact on that. I knew well. I had heard

572
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: that he wanted to come up, but the timing of it,

573
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: it was it was not a comfortable feeling. UM. So

574
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: he kind of came up and sat in the chair.

575
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: He was like, it is what it is or whatever.

576
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I took it too far and apologize

577
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: for that part. I guess that he said all that.

578
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean not paraphrasing that he I don't know. I

579
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: don't know how how it was out here, but in

580
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: New York history, that was ill because that was like

581
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: the first time we got to see a grown man

582
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: and he was not comfortable. And it's all the interviews

583
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: I had interviewed him maybe before or five times already

584
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: by that point in our careers, and he was always

585
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, always confident, always whatever. Ran the show. He said,

586
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: it's something from his mom. It was yeah, he said

587
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: his mother heard and it was like, why would you

588
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: say that? You know he was I guess she was

589
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: disappointed at him for some of the things he said

590
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: him super ugly. So he apologized. But what I remember

591
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: about that day and for me, what I don't know,

592
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: just was a moment was after because I felt bad.

593
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: I've never seen him like somewhat defeated and that. So

594
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: we walked out the room. I was like, off the air.

595
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I was like, are we good? Like I was worried

596
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: that this is not He was like that's what I mean.

597
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what it is. I can't there's

598
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: not nothing to do here. This is what you know.

599
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I get it, I get it.

600
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: This is not even I don't even worry about it.

601
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: But it was like, I can't even explain it. It It

602
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: was like he understood my role in my position and

603
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: it was not a personal thing, and you know, he

604
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: kind of just reassured me like this is out of

605
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: your control. I get it. You're doing what you gotta do.

606
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: And then he just kind of left and then I

607
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: was like we'll see we're gonna be cool or not.

608
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, of course, That's why I actually the

609
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: Elliott thing earlier is like, was it every time you

610
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: had to like set rate yourself and say you know

611
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: what I mean? That's a specific time. Yeah. Of course

612
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: Ja was already a friend at that point. He had

613
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: already supported me so many years, and we did so

614
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: many interviews and and but it is what it is.

615
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like Jay Z one. He didn't

616
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: you know what, I can't do that. He understood, he

617
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: understood and respected, you know, Like how hard it would

618
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: it be? Like, I mean, he takes his crap seriously.

619
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: I take my two I take my job seriously too,

620
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: and I think there's a respect in that and I understanding.

621
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: And if somebody don't understand that, then they're really not

622
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: my friend. That's real, you know what I'm saying, Like, Like,

623
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: how hard would it be like if if like your

624
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: relationship with Jay and relationship with with Fat Joe, even

625
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Fat Joe, you know, when Fat Joe and fifty would befriend,

626
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: I still had to interview fifty cent respect? How is that?

627
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: What was your Texas? Like? What was your two way

628
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: like when he was the interview with Vicent and fat

629
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Joe knew this. I mean, Joe loves me and I

630
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: love Joe and it has nothing to do with me.

631
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: And so I always try to be fair and I

632
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: always try to but also like fifties, you know, he's

633
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: part of these entertaining funny he's entertaining, He's what is

634
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I've always been able to like, I mean, if you

635
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: beat from with him, I'm not gonna not I'm not

636
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: gonna stop talking to you when I see you and

637
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: say what's up, you know. And if I had to

638
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: say to you, if you ask him, I have to

639
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: say what you did Tony was foul, I'm gonna say

640
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: that to you. But I'm still gonna fire. Relationship is

641
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: still gonna be separate from that. And so I just

642
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: always try to just be fair and truthful and and

643
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: let that lead and then and then if somebody don't

644
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: sunk with you after that, there's nothing you can do.

645
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: You only can control how you walk through a situation.

646
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: You can't really control how other people receive it. So

647
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Luckily for like somebody like Joe and I who are

648
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: really friends, like you know, in their house when it's

649
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm here in Miami, like they really friend. Of course,

650
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: he couldn't understand because at first he was emotional when

651
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: it came to like I know Joe, like Damni, I

652
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: feel like my whole life right um. And at first

653
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: he was emotional when it came to the Phisic thing

654
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: because he had he had never experienced anybody in hip

655
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: hop say anything about him. So I knew he was

656
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: off guard a little bit because it was like his

657
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: first time and it was like and it wasn't like

658
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: a guy said it and just was hiding that he

659
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: was said it, and like, you know what I'm saying.

660
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: So so I know at first wasn't a little awkward,

661
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: not really, Okay, I mean I think I'm just careful.

662
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm careful. I'm always careful anyway. I'm always careful, not

663
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: just to make sure my energy is right, like my

664
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: attentions and my energy is right, and that's all I

665
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: can control. If I'm talking to somebody they say something crazy,

666
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: I just have to make sure that I'm grounded in

667
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: my intention and my energy. And then I said, I

668
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: could walk out of that, Okay, you know what I'm saying.

669
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing I can I can't control. Everybody's energy has

670
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. All I could do is

671
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: show up and try to be fair and try to

672
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: be you know, okay, do the right thing. But I'm

673
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: bouncing around a little bit over here. Now. There was

674
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: this Biggie phone call. It was all right, um, well

675
00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: you a deep research, you know? Um was it? Hit

676
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: him up? Hit him up? Comes out? Oh dog Pound

677
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: comes to New York. Right, And this is this rumor

678
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: that Biggie Small called the radio stage. No, that's not

679
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: a rumor. That's actually true. It's just no one has

680
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: proof for this. Oh it's on the internet somewhere for sure.

681
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: And this this was on your show, correct, it was

682
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: actually I mean I was at that time. I used

683
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: to run flexis board, so I would be getting the

684
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: studio with flex But it really was flexib show. Okay,

685
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: because because because he has a deal. Like when they

686
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: put it in a Tupac movie, like they they don't

687
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: play the actual footage. They play. They played great talking

688
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: talking over right, of course, not they didn't really use

689
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: any actual footogo. I don't think for that. I don't

690
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: think so. But that phone call actually weird Snoop voice over.

691
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: That was weird. That was weird. But so this phone

692
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: call actually happened. Yeah, it totally happened. So Big, this

693
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: is the first because you know the reason why it's

694
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: important this phone call is importan and this because this

695
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: is actually the first time we get to see Big

696
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: stand up for something. Like for the most of part um,

697
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: I've had Snoop on, I've had Snoop. Yes, Snoop remembers

698
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: all of this, like word for word. Snoop and I

699
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: have had many conversations about this because I always dissected

700
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: like that because I always thought Snoop, you know, Snoop

701
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: and I had a little weird thing because that's when

702
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: they were doing New York, New York the video, right,

703
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: So Snoop remembers all of that very clearly remembers the

704
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Big call. He remembers old people ran down here. We

705
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: described that to us for people who don't know because

706
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: so Big just calls funk Flex. Yeah he was on

707
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: the but but people have to realize it wasn't like

708
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: he called him to tell him about you know, Big

709
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: would often call into the radio, you know, So that

710
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: night it was like, Yo, they're shooting this video in Brooklyn,

711
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 1: Like Brooklyn stand up. It was something to that book.

712
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: It was like, but that was it. It was like

713
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: a Brooklyn stand up. It was. It was a sign.

714
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: It was that's very clear. It doesn't that it got

715
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: shut up. But that was the first because you know,

716
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: that's why it's important. But then again, you know it was.

717
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: It was a weird time if you think about how

718
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: crazy that is that we were also invested in something

719
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: that was so dumb and kind of media created. I

720
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: had a record called l also artist Artists. But the media,

721
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: if anything inflamed it more covers didn't. That's what I mean.

722
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: That was the media that like MTV news man. But

723
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: it was just weird. Was that was? That was? You

724
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: know why that was the first time. Now if you

725
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: had you was privileged to actually meet Big. I remember

726
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: coming up to Big in the tunnel samm let's fry,

727
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, and Big looking at me like young man,

728
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: chill out, chill. Big really tried, by the way, he

729
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: really tried to like not, I kid you not. I

730
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: wish I could tell everyone individually, like how far left

731
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: they were, like how far to this area park was

732
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: and how far this area Big was, Like Big really

733
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: was like I never did I never did what they

734
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: accused me of. Like he literally told me that and

735
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: that ship, but I never met Tupac by the way,

736
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: I met Big, but I never met Tupac and um

737
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: literally and it's the crazy ship is we did a

738
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: record call l A l A. But we actually but

739
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: we stood up for East Coast because I'm so sorry,

740
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: I forget. I think I'm in a lunch room. So

741
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: um when we actually did um mom deep and uh,

742
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: we actually did it. And I remember bringing it to

743
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: Big and I remember him saying because it was for

744
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: a Stretched Armstrong mixtape and Stretched Armstrong was hosting a

745
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: bad Boy mixtapes. Remember bad Boy had to mix tape.

746
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I remember Big telling me to my face,

747
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm not going to use that. And that's the reason

748
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: when l A l A came out the way it

749
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: came out is because Big told me to my face,

750
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I not gonna use that. And I was like, I

751
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: was so hurt because I am defended him. Yeah, he

752
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: didn't want to first of it. He was trying. He

753
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: was trying to be the bigger man he was, and

754
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I think he just was trying to stay focused. That's

755
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: probably puff was probably in his ear, like don't get

756
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: distract I would imagine. I don't know that for a fact,

757
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: but Big tried, and also Snoop tried. I think that's

758
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: what killed Jo rule was because he tried to like

759
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: go to Biggie route and fifty was just different. Do

760
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: you think so you thinkthy was different than Pockets? He

761
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: like Noless. No, I felt like different, very different year.

762
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: Both relentless. Yeah, both relentless, and both I just think

763
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: one had social media when the other one didn't. Imagine

764
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: the two pocket social media. It's totally different. That's a

765
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: big punt on Facebook, big, Holy Moly, holy ship. Oh man,

766
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: I had a moment just now. I'm literally thinking about

767
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: I missed. I missed. I missed punning of course. Man,

768
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: do you know pun got me super high on the

769
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: radio one time. I had never had any like weed

770
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: cookies before, and he came to the show and he

771
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: had a bag of weed cookies and he was like, YO,

772
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: have one, And I was like, I had smokes. So

773
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I can handle a weed cookie. And

774
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: what I didn't know is it took takes time to

775
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: kick in. So I ate when I was like I

776
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: feel nothing, I'm fine. You ate more. I ate like

777
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: half a bag. Then I did this older he fucking

778
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: sat there and watched me do it. And you know,

779
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: because pun was an asshole, he was meaning the best

780
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: way possible. He was like a jux him. It was

781
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: probably hysterical, like she has no idea and so I

782
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: had way too many cookies and about so we finished

783
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: the interview and I was fine. I was like old

784
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: cookies in the world my time, which is crazy what

785
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: thing happened to me? And then all of sudden, I

786
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: was like, and I'm still I had to finish the

787
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: rest of my show, and I thought. I said to

788
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: Patty Duke, who was my producer, I was like, I

789
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: think I have to go to the hospital pick up

790
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: Speedy and Patty Doodle Patty it was I think it

791
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: was both of them, and I wanted them to take

792
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: me to the emergency room. I was like, I think

793
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: I'm dying. I think I'm gonna die. In my heart,

794
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna die, Like I just kept saying,

795
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm taking emergency. Anyway, they wind up taking

796
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: me home. Somebody drove me home and I slept it off,

797
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: but it was terrible, like I haven't by the way,

798
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: it's never again. I won't have it edible. I won't

799
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: have a gun me I'm own because Punt ruined it

800
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: for me forever. So, um have you ever? Oh, have

801
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: you ever? Like? Have you ever? It's never? Have you

802
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: ever regretted the interview? Like if you ever? Like you know,

803
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: it's like you know somebody like a Mike Kaiser tight

804
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: maybe not Mike Kaiser, but Mike Kaiser type, you know

805
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: who you play cards with it and they call you

806
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: and they say interview. You know, um d C Jeffrey go, go,

807
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: who's that nigger? Right? And then he comes and this

808
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: guy he's gonna lean and he's I hate those interviews.

809
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: He hate lean interviews. I do. I don't like. I

810
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: don't even like when people are too high. And you know,

811
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: I love Nas, but not back in the day when

812
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: Nas would smoke too much, I would I would hate

813
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: our interviews because you know, he's smart and he had

814
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: so much to say, but he would get high and

815
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: he'd be like, yeah, no he wouldn't. So I would

816
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: be like, I hope he comes today now high because

817
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I always we get better interviews from Nas when he wasn't.

818
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: But I think, um, I mean later, he probably learned

819
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: how to do interviews. Ear NAS's first show in Miami,

820
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Illan out Scratch opened up and why Scratch. But I

821
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: was so disappointed, unfortunately, because I think that now I

822
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: was just so high. Yeah in the beginning, Yeah, because

823
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: you imagine now Scratch, you know how they are there

824
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: together interacting, there, they all energy, and we're already for

825
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: noting that he just was there and you know what,

826
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us was getting to learn

827
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: our show. But I'm jumping around then later, But yeah,

828
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: people if they're too high or whatever, they what on whatever,

829
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: then it's never a good interview. And also now I've

830
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: learned that as I've grown, like I don't even want

831
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: to you know, we see people that are in bad conditions.

832
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I never want to interview somebody who's in a

833
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: bad state, you know what I'm saying, because it's like

834
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: I feel it's all meaning they high and they or

835
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: they're on heroin terrible, I mean, drink whatever, but like

836
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: and your this is about your own year. But sometimes

837
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: people I feel like I'm taking advantage. Like there's been

838
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: people where like I literally stop the interview and I'll

839
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: be like, let's do it. Another time. I'd rather do

840
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: that than would let you play yourself and be under

841
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the you know that. Yeah, yeah with that, I'm not

842
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: good with that. You know. Another funny story is when

843
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: when you run a punt. It just a story of this.

844
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: When you said Punn was like almost like a bully.

845
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Was when pun went to the flatform, right, you know

846
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: what he says, I'm thos a hundred pounds. Every time

847
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I see that, I hear that, I cry. But I

848
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: remember me being in South Carolina and I had to

849
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: show on South Carolina and for for some reason back then,

850
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: people in North Carolina couldn't hear the South Carolina and

851
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: vice versa. So I was in the next stay and

852
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: Punk calls me. He's like, yo, you and um I'm

853
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: like yeah. He's like yeah, well, I'm like forty five

854
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: minutes away, come see me. So I'm like, all right, cool,

855
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just go. So I go to

856
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: see him, and the counselor knows who I am. It's like, oh,

857
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: you're come to see punting. Like yeah, so puns like, yo,

858
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: get a pass. They're gonna give you like an hour pass.

859
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: So I'm like all right, cool. So I look at

860
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: the guy like, yo, can I get a pass? He's like, yes, noy,

861
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: but have him back in the hour and don't let

862
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: him full you. So I'm like, alright, cool, I have

863
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: no idea what he's talking about. Right, so I already

864
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: see where this is going. I put part of this

865
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: is back in the days, you've got a fantastic, So

866
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: I put poet of the fantastically driving a right, you know,

867
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: the fantastic should be driving around. He's happy, he's but

868
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: he's out of this ship. So he goes your bonna.

869
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: So I said, what's up? He goes pull over to

870
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: the KFC, and I go, yo, put him. I'm not

871
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the world, but I know, like

872
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: you're in a fat farm, KFC. It's not together. It's like,

873
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, Poem is a different type of dude, he said,

874
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: I figured it out. I said, what is that? The

875
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: fat is only in the skin. All we gotta do

876
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: is take the skin off of the chicken. And I'm good.

877
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: Me like an idiot, goes to Catty. I'm like, you

878
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: should want you don't want like a five? He's like,

879
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: why not, don't worry, don't We're gonna get a five.

880
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: Will come back, get another five and I'm come back.

881
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: We get and I'm like you sure, He's like, listen, man,

882
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: I do a deal all the time. I'll take the

883
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: skin off me like the idiot twenty four or five

884
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: year old I am. I'm I don't boarded up thirty

885
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: piece biscuits, macaroni and a diet coke, my whole boy

886
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: on the flatform. So the crazy ship was he's it

887
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: and I don't realize that you smell like grease, like

888
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: if you don't if you haven't been eating fast food.

889
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: So we walk in as soon as they're walk in

890
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: there like nor we never again remember like we wiped him.

891
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: We every ever this of him in the world. As

892
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: soon as he walked in the Council's new immedia, there

893
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: was like so I just remember, I'm just sorry. I

894
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: just remember that story because that's a great story. So

895
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: all right, it comes time you from what I heard,

896
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: you wanted to be the p d or of hot

897
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: This is what this is, pure room up. I've never

898
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: heard no inside information. And for some reason, these people

899
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: say you know what you're and you're who you are.

900
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: But then this other opportunity, this is a brand new

901
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: radio station, they got the slogan flipped the switch. Everybody

902
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: in death jam if you slip the switch, switch forever,

903
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: so people are skined switch. He was switch at first.

904
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Clue comes over, right, clue comes over, then envy. But

905
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: there's no Breakfast Club, there's no number one show. Everyone

906
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: is looking at this station like m But then there's

907
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: something remarkable. What happens the Breakfast Club performs? They do it.

908
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: But since the and like when you thought the hot

909
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: NY seven, literally you thought of Angie Martina, How is

910
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: it to make that decision because I don't want obviously

911
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about the numbers, but obviously it

912
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: had to be bigger than just the numbers, because you're

913
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: leaving family, like I remember, like like honestly, and I'm

914
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: saying this what we'll all due respect to everyone else,

915
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: But if it was anyone else, everyone would have just

916
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: moved on. Like that whole week, everyone was sad, like

917
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's amazing was going

918
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: to be what it was like it was it was

919
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a big deal, but not what it was.

920
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: I was not prepared for that, Like I'm prepared, I'm

921
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: over prepared. Whenever I do something. I already know seven

922
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: steps ahead what's gonna happen. I didn't think of a

923
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: lot of things and how I'm going to do it

924
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: and when of them and all that, But the reaction

925
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: of everybody I was not all the way prepared for.

926
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: Like it literally was like like it took my post.

927
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: In reality, it is a job, right it is, But

928
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: this you created fas always had this fear of like

929
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: being institutionalized in a weird way, like I would watch

930
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: people be in the game and they only worked for

931
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: one label for their whole career and then they're over

932
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: and then it's over. And I was always I loved

933
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: how we built it, we made it what it was.

934
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: Flex is my family. He made you know, helped make me.

935
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: He was um and then you know I have family there.

936
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: Enough is my brother he's still my brothers. Just spoke

937
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: to the other day, text me just to tell me

938
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: let me um. That was all. It was literally like

939
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: three days and I still like Lauris styles. I just

940
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: talked to the other thing also of watermelon shots. Watermelon

941
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: shots shots good. But it was like I was I

942
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: felt like I was being um loyal to something that

943
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: wasn't there anymore. So it's like you built something right,

944
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: you said, that's not there any more. We're talking about

945
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: the regime. Yeah, it was a different place. It wasn't

946
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: the place was the original. It was Tracy. It was Tracy.

947
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: It was jud who gave me my break. It was

948
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: so it was just like we built this thing, We

949
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: make this thing, and then this thing becomes something else,

950
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: and it becomes more corporate and it becomes different, and

951
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're there and people connect your

952
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: name with this brand, and I just started feeling like

953
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to control my own brand and my own self.

954
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: Like there was new people working in, new people in

955
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: charge that I had no really connection to. And so

956
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: what am I being loyal to? My being loyal to

957
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Flex and being loyal to enough, Like if we're friends

958
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: and we're family, we're gonna always be friends. This is

959
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: what y'all do? You do show? And then so people

960
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: get pissy and then you make them talk about that,

961
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: keep going, I'm not that's let's I'm not doing the show. Cool.

962
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: And so my contract was up for a really long

963
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: time and they nobody, nobody there was checking me on it,

964
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: which is kind of floating. So let me, let me

965
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: give you two scenarios. Right, so I have all this

966
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: this great career there and then what I just ride

967
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: it out to the sunset and then it's over. Or

968
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: do I look at my options? Do I look at

969
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: I built this, not only this, but I built myself

970
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: up and now I'm still in a position where I

971
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: have value. Do I just ignore my value and just

972
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: sit here next to these new people and next to

973
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: the family, or do I just look around and see

974
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: what's my options? So what's the thing to do? Right?

975
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Contract been up? Nobody even they knew it. They just

976
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: they know nobody nobody was either because they a little

977
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: bit of taking me for granting. It was like a

978
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: hand shaped like it was a handshake. Had my protect

979
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: was over? I was just working like and like month

980
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: to month was like you wanted to be like the

981
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: m D or the p D. Why would I gonna

982
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: do that? You get paid less money than I get

983
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: paid and you gotta work twice as hard. Why would

984
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to do? So? I know? Um, And

985
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: so just what had happened was I looked around, like

986
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: what's all right? So what are my what are my options?

987
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: At this point in my life. In my career, I'm

988
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: a mother, I got mortgage. I got like, like, let

989
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: me just know. And then when I realized because I

990
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: always thought of them as the enemy, but then I

991
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: was like, let me meet them and see what type

992
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: of you're saying? Power? It was the enemy, right, So

993
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: I grew up was what it was. And then you

994
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: meet people and you're like, oh, ship, you're not bad people.

995
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: You love radio, you respect me. We start having a

996
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: mutual conversation just to us because it's gotta be awkward,

997
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: because you know why when we thought on Hot Today

998
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: seven again, I want to reiterate this, we thought of

999
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: you in flex right. Yeah, but let me tell you something, right,

1000
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: if I would have never moved right, I'm always going

1001
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: to be Angie from How Today seven? Do you think

1002
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: of me as Angie from Power Now? Or do you

1003
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: just think of me as a Martini? Okay? So what

1004
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: that's very true? So true? Would that have ever happened

1005
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: for me if I stayed? Still uncomfortable? But how is

1006
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: this approach though? Because no, but I'm asking me the question.

1007
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: No to that question alone. When I asked myself that question,

1008
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: that's real? Do I want to be my own thing?

1009
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: Or do I want to just be connected to stand

1010
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: alone brand, a brand that is yes, we built it right,

1011
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: but now it belongs to I don't own it, it's

1012
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: not mine. If they want to sell it tomorrow, then

1013
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm out of a job. And then what there was

1014
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: no I just I just felt a disconnect from the

1015
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: brand and myself. I felt a disconnect. I didn't feel

1016
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: this kind of conflected build, this connect from enough, but

1017
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: the brand of the radio station. I felt this kind

1018
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: of different. But how did this other side even get

1019
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: to you? Like y'all first going to them? Because for

1020
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: years they would always try to come from me and

1021
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: I'd be like, nah, I'm never I'm never going over there.

1022
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: You can't. You could never afford it was on that

1023
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: young dumb because I like, I owned the brand, the

1024
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: other brand, I'm owned none of that, you know what

1025
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I but I was acting like that,

1026
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: but I was like no, no, no. But then once

1027
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I had that realization, like there were some things that

1028
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes, some decisions that were made that

1029
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: I didn't like that I had no control over. We

1030
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: did that show. I hated that show, that reality show. Yeah,

1031
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: there was decisions that were being made that were not

1032
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: in my best interests. So if this brand is not

1033
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: looking at my best interests, why am I being loyal?

1034
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Why am I sitting here when there are other options

1035
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: for me? And so I started looking, and so I

1036
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: had put the word out that I would be interested

1037
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: in having a conversation just to see what's out here.

1038
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: And then when I did, I just felt like it's

1039
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: a better experience for me to know what happens. That

1040
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to just have one experience my whole career.

1041
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: But let me address like the elephant that I was

1042
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: in the room. At least. Then a lot of the

1043
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: blame was blamed on Ebro. Yeah, a lot of you

1044
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I love a bro for the record, Okay, a lot

1045
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: of it was like, you know, he came in and

1046
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: at first, like now I consider him, I don't even

1047
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: even blame him a little bit at the time. In retrospect,

1048
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: I do not, because at that time it was a

1049
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: new regime. He was trying to find his way out,

1050
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: he was going from p D to on air, and

1051
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: so he was kind of looking out for his best

1052
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: interest to an extension, which he's supposed to. But also

1053
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: it made me realize this is not my best interest,

1054
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: and so let me start looking out for self, right,

1055
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: let me not just be dumb and loyal and be

1056
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: like whatever everybody wants, but nobody's making sure this is

1057
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: good for me. I had to back up and be like,

1058
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: hold up, you go to for advice, but when you

1059
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: make that type of move, like or you did this

1060
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: all on your own, like you you sat back, or

1061
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: do you do you talk to a whole boy. I

1062
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk to nobody about that because I

1063
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: didn't want I didn't want it to I wanted to

1064
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: control the narrative that. I wanted to control the outcome

1065
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: of that. And I have a theory that, like, everybody

1066
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: has the best friend, right, So you might be my

1067
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,479
Speaker 1: best friend and I trust you, but you got another

1068
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: best friend that you trust. So I'm a volt Like

1069
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: if if there's something I don't want people to know,

1070
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't tell nobody. And the same thing, if you

1071
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: tell me a secret and I value our friendship, I'm

1072
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: never gonna tell nobody else because as much as I

1073
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: love this person and trust them, they trust and love

1074
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: somebody else. I'm very careful about that type of thing.

1075
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: So I really didn't tell nobody, like my man but

1076
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: about it, like he knew, but literally like that's probably it,

1077
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: like even nobody like nobody. And also I needed to

1078
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: figure it out. It was so close, and so it

1079
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: was so like a tender decision that I really didn't

1080
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: want no other noise. I really wanted to know I

1081
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: was doing the right thing. I've never seen like the

1082
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: industry shaking up, like it's like it really freaked me out,

1083
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: like I can't, I can't even lie to you. Like

1084
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I keep comparing it to the

1085
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather because Floyd always seemed so happy with HBL

1086
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: and then to see him with like the showtime, it

1087
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: was just like wait, wait what HBO. We didn't see

1088
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: it like that. And the thing about it is like

1089
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: I know we spoke about it, well, isn't if that

1090
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: was my company we rolled that to the wheels fall off,

1091
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: or if that company was like, hey, you get to

1092
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: decide this, this this, then we could rocked. But like

1093
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I was a paid employee, no equity, there's

1094
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: no equity, and there's also no protection if you decide

1095
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: tomorrow you want to start playing dance music, which by

1096
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: the way At that time, it was starting to heap,

1097
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: but they were starting to play, don't know. It was

1098
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: like a time they were they were experimenting, and I

1099
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: just thought I had been there a really long time.

1100
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: They could easily make a change. And then but so

1101
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: who do I leave my destiny to? Do I leave

1102
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: it to a company or do I take it into

1103
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: my own hands and decide was the better fit for me?

1104
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: And I also just feel like you gotta shake it up.

1105
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes I felt I was a little comfortable. I could

1106
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: have just sat there and rolled that out, but I

1107
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: was very comfortable, like too comfortable where I'm uncomfortable because

1108
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm too comfortable for you know what I'm saying, Like

1109
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: that was your you gotta get up, you gotta shake

1110
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: it up. And this is what I told Drew Sky

1111
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: to remember that day. Juiceky was my show producer, and

1112
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: he was like he was very upset. Wait wait wait

1113
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: wait oh so he frowned out one air. Everybody found

1114
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: out that day. The only person I told the day

1115
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: before the night before it was Flex. I wanted to

1116
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: have that moment with him, but everybody else found out

1117
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: when I got there, Like nobody so and you said

1118
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: it on the air. No, I said it right before

1119
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: they knew. Everybody was already like in tears by the

1120
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: time I got to the air. But what I had

1121
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: said to Juice I was like, you have to you

1122
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: have to shake it up. Like it's okay, we did great.

1123
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: Ship doesn't negate anything, doesn't negate My love for nobody

1124
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: doesn't agate what we did. But we're moving forward now, right,

1125
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: And so what happens is when you shake it up,

1126
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: it forces other people situations to get shaken up. So

1127
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: me leaving opens up a slot for Drew Ski or

1128
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: for Nessa or for somebody else to just keeps the

1129
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: energy moving right. And so for myself and for other people,

1130
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: it's not just you know me, So do you ever

1131
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: a turn on? Listen to it? Or you like that ship?

1132
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: I have no. No, I have no. And I'm not

1133
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: even just saying this because it sounds cool, like I

1134
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: have no bad feeling stories it at all. People think

1135
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: like you said, e Bro, Like I love you, Bro,

1136
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I can't keep myself

1137
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: tied down to something that don't fit me no more

1138
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: because I love people like if they love me back,

1139
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: they want me the best for me, you know what

1140
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, so I never really subscribed to we

1141
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: gotta be enemies because we work at different radio stations.

1142
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: We don't none of us own either one of those

1143
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: radio stations. None of them. That used to bother me

1144
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: when um, like I stole an album released party or

1145
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: something like that, and the labels would tell me, what,

1146
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a power party, and then we've gotta

1147
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: have a hot party. Yeah, And I to be like,

1148
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: why we just can't just party? And the crazy ship

1149
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: subscribe to that like they live like you can't know

1150
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: is that's only in New York, Like it's mainly in

1151
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: New York and not not in the import show in

1152
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Fort Mine. Well, because in smaller markets that

1153
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: happen to get bustle. But they have against the trust

1154
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: me all radio stations. If you have competitive it's it

1155
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: can get very safe in corporations at only stations have

1156
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: kind of like pushed out of Jenn. Of course you're

1157
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: not doing that to me. And honestly, that's one thing

1158
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: I was proud of, is that there was so much

1159
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: hostility between everybody I had and everybody a power and

1160
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: I refused to do that even when I left, because

1161
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: my friends, they friends, that's your friends, the motorcycles, the biles,

1162
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: the bikers got the best party like this. Man. You know,

1163
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: they provided us with that water, met us a rock.

1164
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: You provided us with some dog perry, y'all. You know

1165
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, some more wet and and anytime you're

1166
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: in South Beast, give us that address. Now you gotta

1167
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: check them at best Buy Liquor dot com. Man, were

1168
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: and give me the address because you know well you

1169
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: want to go to nineteen nineteen three sixty seven South

1170
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: Dixie Highway. God damn it, best Buy Liquors at a

1171
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: world dot com. Best Buy Liquor dot com. God damn it. God,

1172
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: that makes the l's best buy. Anyway, I say all

1173
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: that the same, and I was proud of the fact

1174
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: that when I left there, I was able to maintain

1175
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: my relationships with people there and then also create new

1176
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: relationships like I didn't even I never knew Charlottagne. I

1177
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: never knew none of them. I remember the day you

1178
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: got over there and how because this is when I

1179
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: knew that Charlottagne was kind of a genius. Was because

1180
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: he had like like beef with the whole Hot ninety

1181
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: seven and as soon as you came over there, he

1182
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: had so much great things. He admired you so much.

1183
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: And I love being able to break that wall down,

1184
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: like it's not that serious looking at what are we

1185
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: talking about? It reminded me of one thing I had

1186
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: spoke to Flex, right, and Flex was talking about this

1187
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: guy so bad, and I was like, in front of

1188
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: guy and that just Conflex, And I was like, yo, Flex,

1189
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: he goes, it's just competition, like he always like that.

1190
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, none of this, I said on the radio.

1191
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: I just I just, you know, I just wanted to know,

1192
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: like we're in competition, Like I was like, I never

1193
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: knew that. You know what else I respected about Flex?

1194
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: Up and tell you this is probably one of my

1195
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: favorite Flex stories. I come on, let him come in,

1196
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: Come on. This is one of my favorite It's one

1197
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: of my favorite people's stories, not just Flex stories. Was

1198
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: I remember Flex saying that he had to meet record

1199
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,479
Speaker 1: the record the Meek. Remember remember Drake Drive. He didn't

1200
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: he didn't have it. It was a lot he didn't have.

1201
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: He was a lot, right, Yeah, everybody, I'm gonna play

1202
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: it the next day. Listen literally my flight. I literally

1203
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: was like your hold. I was like, your look classic

1204
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: if I get on, If I get on this flight

1205
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: right now, and I missed this, I wanna miss this

1206
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: classic New York moment. So I actually stood there and

1207
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: waiting so botom line. Flex didn't get the joint right.

1208
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: So the next day I called Flex and I'm trying

1209
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: not to bring it up. I'm just like, yo, I

1210
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: got this record. The Flex is like he's listening, like

1211
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: who's on the record, right, but he does he wants

1212
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: to ask me. So Flex goes, how did I look yesterday?

1213
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean? He goes, He's like, how did

1214
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: I look us today? He looks a little funny? He said,

1215
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: was I making like a biscuit? I said, you bake it?

1216
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: And he said, like me, like, you know you looked

1217
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: at it? He said no, y'all know, I said, not

1218
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: not Flex, but did you did you never have the record?

1219
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: He's like those such a stuff. Told me he had

1220
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: the record, but I should have not listening to that,

1221
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: and this is why I respect Flex. And he goes,

1222
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, love, I know I looked at

1223
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: like a biscuit? And I go, how do you know?

1224
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: He said, cause I stayed home the whole day. Yeah,

1225
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: and I didn't open my door for nobody didn't. But

1226
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: I had one delivery he said. I said, fuck it,

1227
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: they knocked my door, and he said, I open it

1228
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: up and open the delivery. And the guy just looked

1229
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: at me and said rough night. And you know, he

1230
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: took his losses his win. I had never seen somebody

1231
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: with the same smile that he had his winning because

1232
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: he loves the game. He loves the ups and downs

1233
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: a bit. He loves he loves that's when he's lost. Like,

1234
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody like he's like you, I knew

1235
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: I funked up, like I shouldn't have said I had

1236
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: the record, like so like, I know, I know I

1237
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: asked you like in a certain way and the um.

1238
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where artists has sat

1239
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: down with you said some crazy ship and then told

1240
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: you you'll please erace that. Oh yeah, multiple times? And

1241
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: I tend to I tend to respect it unless they're

1242
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: in the wrong in some way like example, but really

1243
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: I won't because ultimately it's like normally it's nothing's that serious, like,

1244
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: but artists is really uncomfortable with something I'm not depressed,

1245
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: like because like I said, I'm culture friendly, I'm artist friendly.

1246
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're all here to lift each other up.

1247
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: And so if something is said that's you know, that

1248
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: hurts somebody, then we take it out. I don't care.

1249
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: That's fine. So that's happened, not a lot. I don't

1250
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: make it easy because I don't want that to be

1251
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: to become a thing. But it's happened a few times.

1252
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me not when, and I can't remember nothing.

1253
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: Do you have any like opinion on today's like media culture,

1254
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: journalistic culture, because you're saying you're culture friendly. Yeah, and

1255
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like today's blogs and websites culture friendly,

1256
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: the ones that claimed to be the most culture friendly. Yeah,

1257
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a tough I think it's

1258
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: a tough thing to keep going on. I got so

1259
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: we're back like four flats on the Cadillac. But um,

1260
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: so you also ran a marathon. Yes, it was a

1261
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: terrible idea. Let me tell you something. Twenty six point

1262
01:06:52,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: twenty six point too, but that I used to have

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: to run another point, it's not every month you did

1264
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: this before Puffy or no, I did a way after

1265
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: I just did this a few years ago. I didn't

1266
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 1: a year when I left. When I went to Power

1267
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: that first year, I was so like inspired, you know,

1268
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: the rush of going that rush I could you imagine

1269
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: a rush I had of that translation, I just want

1270
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: to pitch this. So you hate you leaving? Yeah, the

1271
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: biggest contract of your life. And you say bucket and

1272
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: then that's sort of sound I'm like, what am I

1273
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna do? Now? Do something else that sounds like some

1274
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: rich people shop. I'm just doing because it was on

1275
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: my bucket list time. I'm a bucket list person, like

1276
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: I used to I was a kid. I used to

1277
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: watch it like yo, if I could do that, I

1278
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: could do anything. I used to literally watch the marathon

1279
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: and think that. So I was a bucket list thing.

1280
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: And that's a specific marathon. Was the marathon New York

1281
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: City Marathon. So then so then another way, she just

1282
01:07:51,800 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: told you that like that. Sorry anyway, So, my friend

1283
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: c C. Sebatia and Amber Spathia they were doing this

1284
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: thing the floor right whatever. So they were doing a

1285
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: team for charity, and I had just come off the

1286
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: high of this transition and I was like, now's the

1287
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: time I'm gonna do it. So we had like six

1288
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: so I told her I'm gonna run on the team.

1289
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: She was like, okay, great, she just mentioned the team.

1290
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: My son muld do it. She had a team because

1291
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, in the New York City Marathon, you have

1292
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: to be like on a waiting list. Is that that

1293
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: that marathon? Like you can't just go run it like

1294
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: we have to. I just can't say I'm gone. You can't.

1295
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: But it could take like two or three years to

1296
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: be on the waiting list to get accepted because it's

1297
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: full like it's every year unless you're doing it for

1298
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: charity and you can find a team to be part of.

1299
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: So she had a team registered to go run. So

1300
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: she had mentioned that our kids played little league at

1301
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: the time. They were playing a litle league, so she

1302
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: mentioned she was doing this team, and I was like,

1303
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: it's on my bucket list. I'm coming down from the

1304
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 1: higher the transition. I'm going to run the fucking marrin.

1305
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: This is gonna be amazing. In my mind, it's gonna

1306
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: be amazing. I can't run. I can't run up the

1307
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: block without passing out, Like I'm not a runner. I

1308
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: don't even don't know why I thought for this, no

1309
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: listen to me. So when I told her I would

1310
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: do it, I had six months. So I was like,

1311
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: in six months, train six training much. I've be in

1312
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: great shape by then. I can't run to the corner

1313
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: store right now, but in six months, I'll run the

1314
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: New York It'll be a great idea. Anyway, not a

1315
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: great idea. So I start training. I can't run a mile.

1316
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: I can't run two months. So no one, you don't

1317
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: like water keep black people. Hey, I'm just playing. It's

1318
01:09:54,360 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: a terrible joke, very racist show. Continue enjoy this. You

1319
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: gotta have a shot puff if you want to give

1320
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: me a check solemn. I'm not doing the whole shot,

1321
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: but it's very tasty. Um. Anyway, So I start training

1322
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: and I realized, wow, this was a bad idea, like

1323
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: almost immediately. But I've already said it on the air.

1324
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Puff, Puff makes a donation.

1325
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a thousand dollars for every

1326
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: mile you run each day, every morning, every night. Is

1327
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna give me six thousand, two hundred dollars. So he

1328
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: says this on the radio. People are making donations. We

1329
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta pressure. So a lot of pressure, and

1330
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: I already said I was gonna do it. I'm signed up,

1331
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: I got a blog about it. I started really having

1332
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 1: like severe anxiety because I was like, I can't you know.

1333
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: So I used the app, right, and it tells you

1334
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: this is how you should train. Oh, you've got six

1335
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: months where you need to do one mile this day,

1336
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: four miles this day. So the days I'm supposed to

1337
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: do a I still can't run two. So I know

1338
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm way pat you know I'm way behind. But

1339
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna walk when I can't,

1340
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run, I'm gonna walk. I'm whatever. So anyway,

1341
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,839
Speaker 1: so about two weeks before we're supposed to run the marathon,

1342
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: they say you're supposed to do a long run. So

1343
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: if the marathon's twenty six you're supposed to run like

1344
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: eighteen miles and that's the furthest you go, then you rest,

1345
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: then you show it for the day. So everybody on

1346
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: my team is like, oh, because they've all been training

1347
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: there in great shape, they're all ready for the marathon.

1348
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: They've all already run ten, twelve, sixteen miles. So we're

1349
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: gonna do the long run as a team before the marathon.

1350
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I thought I was gonna

1351
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: die when I tell you die, and I walked half

1352
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: of it like I thought I was gonna die. So

1353
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: cut to the end of the eighteen miles, I'm hobbling

1354
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: to the car like I came and walked. So now

1355
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: we've got a few weeks before the marathon, and my

1356
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: my leg is funked up from the long run. So

1357
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: from that day to the day of the marathon, i'm

1358
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: I can't barely walk, let alone run. So I show

1359
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: up at the marathon and they got us in the

1360
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: v I P tent because with you know what the

1361
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: Sabbathi is, and so there's like Olympians and probes, you know,

1362
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: athletic people didn't run. It was his team. So I

1363
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: show up. I'm I'm hobbling to the marathon. To the marathon,

1364
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm already limping up to CEC who just struck out

1365
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: three thousand people brought away to think. So I hobbled

1366
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: to the thing, and now I have to run twenty

1367
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: six point two miles. This is how no God is

1368
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: really Like I know God is real because I literally

1369
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: prayed my way through the whole marathon, like I prayed

1370
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: the whole way. Like first it was like get me

1371
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: through the first couple of miles. By the way, so

1372
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: let me just tell you this real quick story. So

1373
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: the marathon, you start on the Arizona Bridge. That's how

1374
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: it starts. And now I got my the whole team

1375
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: is with me. We got started at the Arizonal Bridge.

1376
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: We all start and Amber's there, Ceci's wife. We're not

1377
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: even halfway over the bridge. This is the beginning of

1378
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: the marathon, and I can't keep up. Already my team

1379
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: is out. I'm like, just cold. Without me, You're not

1380
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: even likely. I'm like, go, I'll be okay, go on

1381
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: without me because I'm running mad slow. So I don't know.

1382
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: I literally prayed. But there was a point I got

1383
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: to like seven miles, and I was like, I'm gonna

1384
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: finish this. I'm gonna When I got to seven, I

1385
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: was like, if I could do seven miles, I'm gonna

1386
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: do twenty six months. I'm gonna finish this. It took

1387
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: me mad long. For the last five or six miles,

1388
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: I was literally like like like limping running, like skipping

1389
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: and hopping running, And I'll never forget this with in

1390
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: Central Park and it's towards the end, it's like a

1391
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: mile left. It sounds like nothing, right because but go

1392
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: run a mile right now, it's still a mile, like

1393
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: I just did five miles and still a mile left.

1394
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, I'm not gonna make it after

1395
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: you like, and I literally my body was like it

1396
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: was it was beyond my mind. It was beyond my prayers.

1397
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: It was like my body was like, you're finished. You're

1398
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: not going to do this last month. Your body cannot

1399
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: do all five barrels, right, you run through all five barrels.

1400
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: So you start, you said so, now you said you have,

1401
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: So where are you at? We ran through Brooklyn, through

1402
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: the Bronx. We did all that. Now we're back in

1403
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: Central Park. Yeah, all of that. I'm at twenty five

1404
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: and I'm literally I could feel my you have like

1405
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: I could feel myself falling to like I was gonna

1406
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: fall on the ground. Five. I was literally like, this

1407
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: is terrible. I've made it this far. I cannot do another.

1408
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die right now. The wall, it's like a

1409
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: wall where the walls. At thirteen, I hit that moppy

1410
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: on the Queensboro Bridge. That's where that when you hit

1411
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: the wall. That happened to me. I'm on the Queensburg Bridge.

1412
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: It's freezing, it's cold. Hit the wall. I'm gonna die.

1413
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: Describe to people would do it because I'm in the

1414
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: ball means I can't run one more since time, but

1415
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: then you still have thirteen more miles. So I get

1416
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: to that, I hit the wall. I'm gonna die. I'm

1417
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: on the Queensburg Bridge. My knee hurts, and you know,

1418
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: when people are running, you start getting hustle, you start

1419
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: throwing your stuff up. People are throwing T shirts as

1420
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: you're running. So I'm on the bridge. It's mad clothes

1421
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: on the bridge. So I started thinking, like I'm a mcguiver.

1422
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna take somebody's tee shirt and wap

1423
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: it around my knee to stop the pain, and then

1424
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to make it past like so

1425
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: I didn't. I picked up something tied it around the

1426
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: bottom of my knee because my knee was like swollen,

1427
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 1: and I was ready and pain. This is that thirteen

1428
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: I make it all the way to twenty five. Imagine that,

1429
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna not make it and this is

1430
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: not the wall. This is something else. I'm a mile

1431
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: away and I can't go one more. I cannot do it.

1432
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die right now. I can't do it. I'm

1433
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna just lay on the floor. This is my one

1434
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: of my mind. What's that mind? I'm gonna just lay

1435
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: on the floor right here in Central Park. And it

1436
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: is what it was. I tried. I can't nobody fart

1437
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: of me. I ran twenty miles. My body can't do it.

1438
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: I can't do another mile. I'm gonna die. I'm literally

1439
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: running at somebody. There was this lady. I don't know

1440
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: if she was all the black woman. I don't know

1441
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 1: if she knew me or she didn't know me, but

1442
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: it was like it was like an angel. I was

1443
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: like I was about to die, and the lady was like,

1444
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: I see you. You're gonna be okay. This is in

1445
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: the middle of Central Park. It's random, late angel. She

1446
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: wasn't a bottle of mar She was on the sidelines

1447
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: a shopping car. She had a shopping car. No, she

1448
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: was just standing there like a barricade. But I was

1449
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: going to She was like, I see she just canople

1450
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 1: around me. But she's talking to me, and she's like

1451
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: talking loud. I hear She's like, I see you. You're

1452
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. You're not gonna go down, You're gonna

1453
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: get there. You're gonna fish something about that lady like

1454
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: locking in. I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it.

1455
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: It's like when it was in Amsterdam there was a

1456
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 1: guy drove by on a bicycle and that everybody. I

1457
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: was just like something, it's not just everybody is like

1458
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: this guy good drips buying a bicycle and he says,

1459
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: don't do cocaine. Like the same thing. Sorry. He said,

1460
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay. You're gonna be okay, you guys.

1461
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: But it was like an angel. I swear you guys.

1462
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: Was that No, God's real number one God. There's no

1463
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: way I get through that marathon without praying my way

1464
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,799
Speaker 1: through the whole thing. And then when I'm gonna fail,

1465
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: this lady is like screaming at me, looking my eyes,

1466
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: told me exactly what I need to hear to get

1467
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: me past that that mill and I did. I mean,

1468
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: I was literally I was like the lights were going off,

1469
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: the people were packing up the bagels like people are

1470
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: going home. When I finished, like it was late, it

1471
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: was dark. My friends had finished two hours ago there,

1472
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: but I made it. But I made it a cause

1473
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 1: people around you seen your citizens and let me finished

1474
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: us a lot of money. But anyway, but now you

1475
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: can't tell me nothing. Congratulations of congratulations, you can do anything.

1476
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: You can do anything? Really is it because you wanted

1477
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 1: them like strong minded people? It's just it was the

1478
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: bucket this thing. No, I'm strong minded when I when

1479
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm locked in, you know what I'm saying. If it's

1480
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 1: something like I don't nobody wants to bell right, like

1481
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: you want to push yourself, And I knew I was

1482
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: going to have to push myself. It wasn't like a

1483
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 1: real thing, but it was a good exercise for me

1484
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: to know, Like, honestly, your mind is like way stronger

1485
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,560
Speaker 1: than you think it is when you're put in that

1486
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: position that you have to be. You know what I'm saying.

1487
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: If you told me we're outside right now to minds,

1488
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: I probably couldn't do it. But if you put a

1489
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: gun to my head and you will, like run two miles,

1490
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run two miles. And that's not only because

1491
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: and that's your mind, right, that's your You have to

1492
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: be able to know the drellaline because the thing about it,

1493
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: like I just want to be clear with the people,

1494
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't like Power one of five was like I

1495
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be the station to take Hot nine down.

1496
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: Like it was still secondary, right, Like I mean at

1497
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: this time, I mean coming up, I mean our heart

1498
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: you know later on, but at this point, like this,

1499
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: this is how New York City was looking at it.

1500
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: Like back in the day, it was looking at it

1501
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: like it was the A side and Power was the

1502
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: B side. Yeah, that's always how the underdog starts. They

1503
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: were the underdog. Um so did they have something to

1504
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: do with your drive of completing it? It really wasn't

1505
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: about how or power. It's about my own energy and

1506
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: giving myself new energy, giving myself the freedom to try

1507
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: something else. And it's okay no matter what nobody says,

1508
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: what people's opinion is. I'm curious about how to with

1509
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: another way. I've been doing it this one way for

1510
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: so long. I'm curious to what's going over here. I was.

1511
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: I was excited to work with the Breakfast Club, even

1512
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: though you know, I liked what they were doing. I

1513
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: like what my Heart was doing as a company. They

1514
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: were doing these big heart festivals, and I wanted to

1515
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: experience that too, and I didn't and personally, in my

1516
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: heart and my gut, I didn't feel anything wrong with it.

1517
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: So I just didn't want to let other people's ideas

1518
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of dictate what the rest of my career had

1519
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: to look like, because then you because when you don't,

1520
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: because listen, if you don't take control of your own

1521
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: self and your own destiny and you allow other people

1522
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: to run that ship, that ship could take a turn

1523
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: and you don't have no control of it, and then

1524
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: then what So I was really like, Okay, I'm gonna

1525
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive this ship, like I'm gonna take control

1526
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: of this and do what I want to do. Otherwise

1527
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: could easily you know, So how how because um we

1528
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: spoke about like you seeing jay Z the Rise of

1529
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: jay Z and then now you like you work with

1530
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: rock Nation, you have Hells with title and things like that.

1531
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Was that easy for you to do that or was

1532
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: that was that a process as well? What do you

1533
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: mean like I'm just getting into business because you get

1534
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: to see this guy, he comes up as an artist

1535
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: and now, let let's be honest, Jay is not coming

1536
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: to my meetings with me you know what I'm saying.

1537
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: It's his company and I respected and he has been

1538
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: a good like I used my call sparingly, like I

1539
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: don't call him for everything, but if something big happens

1540
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: and I'm really confused about something or I need help,

1541
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: he has been gracious like that to me, Like I'd

1542
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: be like, I really want to run something by you,

1543
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't waste those on small things.

1544
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I call him when it's

1545
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: something I really feel, and he's always been good to

1546
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: me that way. So being with rock Nation, it's not

1547
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: like Jay's hands on it with my career, but it's

1548
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: what he built. So it's this, it's a it's um.

1549
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's an integrity about what he's done, and

1550
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: it's an integrity about how he runs rock Nation, and

1551
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: it's the people to you know, they what I feel like,

1552
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the thing is Like you said it earlier,

1553
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 1: he was like, we don't own stock and you know,

1554
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: hot and power. But the thing is like what title.

1555
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: It's like, we don't we can't call anybody at Apple

1556
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about not you know, we could call um,

1557
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: what's my man? Named Larry Jackson. God bless him. He's

1558
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: a great guy. But you don't. But you don't only neither,

1559
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: So like, at what point are we going to start

1560
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 1: doing that? But if you ask me, do I support

1561
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: what I support title before? I support Apple? Absolutely? Does

1562
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: it mean I wouldn't do some of that? No? But

1563
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: why wouldn't we do that? We should? We should support

1564
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: that in every way. I mean same what you sit

1565
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: here and vote drinking the rock, like you know, it's like, goddamn,

1566
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: we don't vote drinking the rock. We should try. I

1567
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't always work because sometimes people what people build,

1568
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't really connect. But when you can, we should

1569
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: support those we want to have. You know, we should

1570
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: be able to alright have those platforms and you know

1571
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: what I mean? So, um, yes, before we get out

1572
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: of here, um, I would like to continue you in

1573
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 1: the picture with DJ Khalin, I really want you to

1574
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: say Kalid Caliver friends like kid and I would like

1575
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: because I'm proud of the guy. I'm very proud of

1576
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: the guy. I know I from this proud of the guy.

1577
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: He's Miami's very ask any questions because I feel like no,

1578
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm just sayings like and it's like us. But how

1579
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: crazy is the house? Holy moldy house is insane. Yes,

1580
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: it's not so much that it's I feel like he

1581
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: told his interior decorator kill Puff Daddy ship. I'm just

1582
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: being honest. I just feel like I just feel like

1583
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: he took his terry decorator as his friend. He's like

1584
01:23:55,400 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: this smike for Antonio and he never told Puff this

1585
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: is and he showed him every part of his crib

1586
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: and to kill it in every aspect. I don't know

1587
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: if he did that. Just be honestly, my mom, that's

1588
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: what happened. It's legal name was Antonio. My face. Interior

1589
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: decorating the ship was being honest in my mind. Houses,

1590
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: I made it up beautiful. It's a beautiful. But what

1591
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: I love about it it's not It doesn't feel cold

1592
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: like you know, people make a lot of money and

1593
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: then they buy these big houses and it feels like

1594
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: a museum. It doesn't feel like a home like house

1595
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: outside inside yeah yeah, but it's inside. I know there's

1596
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: TVs and I have no idea how to describe this.

1597
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: It's cute. It's outside inside, but it's outside like family

1598
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: friend and yeah, and he has listen listen. I don't

1599
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: know if you've been the pup Crib, but pup Crib

1600
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Scott Storch, same ship. They had their studio to the side,

1601
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: like when you walk into has Oh, I went to

1602
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: that quick he has the same exact thing, but he

1603
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: went to interior decorators destroyest ship. It is very well

1604
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: decorated in my opinion, because listen, listen, college kid Callig,

1605
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: Kalid Chalet and Joe is looking like the illest competition.

1606
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like, you know, brother competition. So

1607
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you know Joe has

1608
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: the million dollar Ortumar forgets it's like a million dollars.

1609
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm bragged about having a friend that has a watch,

1610
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: it's a million dollars. Two days later, College used to

1611
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: protect Kalig. Well, he gets Calli's name, and in my mind,

1612
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think he went to his jew and

1613
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: said kill Joe ship. But Joe candy Man, because Joe

1614
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: taught him that level of competition. He pretty much Joe

1615
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: put him on this way from the beginning. That's a

1616
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: fact that I'm so happy and proud of College. I

1617
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: am proud of College too. Give me one more watermelon.

1618
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: Before we get up out of head, let me get

1619
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: one more watermelon. But what is your favorite? What's your favorite?

1620
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: We are actually everybody this What is your favorite time

1621
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: by hip hop? What is your favorite laft? Whether you

1622
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: was involved with it or not, that's really hard to say.

1623
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, m you know because as a fan, as

1624
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: a fan, it was when I was a kid coming up.

1625
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: That's why what got me in and it was it

1626
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: was two times right, it was rock Him because that's

1627
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 1: the time brock Cam is the time he's a period

1628
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: interview rock Him, interview you interview a sat Rocky who

1629
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: reveal that he was named that he was named the

1630
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: rock together. That's why I was like, that's one of

1631
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: your favorite But I didn't that one. I'm sorry. Yeah

1632
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: you google the fear I saw that no Google that

1633
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: it was no Google back then. That was live on

1634
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Hot Ony seven and he brought his mother was one

1635
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: of my now he called his mother on the phone. Yeah,

1636
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 1: yeah it was. But I know that I knew that

1637
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Rocky was named after rock Camp. Had he had told

1638
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: me that on my show And then the next time

1639
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: he came and this is to look at rock Camp.

1640
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: How gracious he is he had, he wasn't promoting that

1641
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: he'd have no reason to come, and I was like,

1642
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: I would really like you to come meet this guy.

1643
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: He was named after you, you know. And he came,

1644
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: and you know, if you know anything about rock camp

1645
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: getting him somewhere on time, we're trying to get him

1646
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: and then on time, right, so he had to be

1647
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: at a certain time otherwise he was gonna miss Rocky

1648
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: would have defeated the whole purpose. He came. He came

1649
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: on time. He was so dope and humble, and that's

1650
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: what I love about him. Number one, he's to me

1651
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: one of the greatest ever. And then also he's super humble,

1652
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: and he's just my brand and my type of rapper,

1653
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Like he's not really like he's what made me fall

1654
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: in love with hip hop. Like that's all that was

1655
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: like a brown mm hmm before we get about hit,

1656
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: is there anybody that you hated and then you like,

1657
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: you ask people questions and you don't let the finish start.

1658
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm very good anyway. Spanish over No Rock was probably

1659
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: personally one of my favorite errors. Then also ros I

1660
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: very much enjoyed the Black Medallion. I was very much

1661
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: like a tribe Leader's Jungle Brother You said, like I

1662
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: think of that black all that I was native to.

1663
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: All that was definitely like I know probably all the

1664
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: words a Younger Brothers album, like all the words me

1665
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: and Mary will do being by the way Mary took

1666
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: me and Mary will line for line. I could do

1667
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: a Junger Brother Soffie like the line for line. Still

1668
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 1: know all the words so that time. But then, as

1669
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: in my career, it's too many good there's too much

1670
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: good stuff. You gotta have one moment though, where it

1671
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: was like, what was the moment that you like you,

1672
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: that you like you knew that this was for you?

1673
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean different different ways, different times. I think the

1674
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: Park interview made me feel like the Park interview made

1675
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: me feel like I could do things that could matter

1676
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: and how was your dinner? Park interview It made me

1677
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, I could actually contribute to how things

1678
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: get presented, how things could be shaped, and I could

1679
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: actually help or hurt or I just started making me

1680
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: understand that. But then it's a called pull. Moments after

1681
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I had a baby, I was feeling disconnected, and then

1682
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: when I came back, that was when the r Kelly

1683
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: jay Z thing happened. Remember that at the concert when

1684
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 1: R Kelly the Then both of them came to my

1685
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: show in the middle of the night, remember that. Oh,

1686
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: and he had left McDonald's or some art. You know.

1687
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: What happened was the show ended. R Kelly broke out.

1688
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: Ja had to finish the whole concert by himself. And

1689
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm in the parking lot, by the way, I just

1690
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: come back from Eternity leave. I have been feeling disconnected.

1691
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I love this

1692
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: ship anymore. I'm I haven't had, you know. I was

1693
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 1: feeling like And then I was in the park a

1694
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: lot and Mike Kaiser called me. He was like, yo,

1695
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: Jay wants to come to the station. Now it's late,

1696
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: it's not even my shift. And He's like, but he

1697
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: only wants to talk to you, So, um, can you

1698
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: go to the station? Who wants to meet you there

1699
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: right now? So I'm like, okay, yeah, of course. You

1700
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: know this big thing just happened at the garden. He

1701
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: was r Kelly broke out, Twitter the Internet, but everybody's talking,

1702
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: everybody's outside the concert. I'm at the parking lot going

1703
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: to the parking lot and Kaiser called me. It was

1704
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 1: like Jay wants to come up. So I call whoever

1705
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 1: was on the station I think was Big Dennis. I

1706
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I need to get on. You can stay,

1707
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 1: but you you got to get up the air because

1708
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Jay wants to come when he wants to me. So anyway,

1709
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: we worked all that out and then Jay came and

1710
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: he gave me the whole story. But it's the middle

1711
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: of the night. Everybody's tuned in. He had this big

1712
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: thing just happened at the concert. And then while I'm there,

1713
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: I get the call that R Kelly's listening and R

1714
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Kelly wants to come now. Yeah, so this is now.

1715
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: It's like one am, two am. I'm on the radio

1716
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of everybody's listening because it's ship just

1717
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: happened at the garden. And I told you it was

1718
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: like Kelly wants He's like, you could talk to him.

1719
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: We're just about done anyway, So Jay Z tells this

1720
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 1: type of story and he leaves, and then like a

1721
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: few minutes later, R Kelly walks in and I do

1722
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: the R Kelly sounded. It was so crazy. The whole

1723
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: thing was just so crazy that I was like, this

1724
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 1: is my ship, Like this is so good. I felt

1725
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I just felt like this is I'm good at this,

1726
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm good at this. I felt like even when

1727
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: I even now, if I go listen to the interview,

1728
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I wouldn't have changed anything about what

1729
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: I asked how it happened. But you know, but also

1730
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 1: when you love what you do, sometimes when you when

1731
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: you're putting like whatever you do, if you play baseball

1732
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: and now you're at the World Series, you're like, this

1733
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: is my ship, this is what I came to do.

1734
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: So when you have those big moments and those big

1735
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: interviews and you deliver, it gets those juices go, you

1736
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: know what you feel and I and so that made me.

1737
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: That brought me back to work like that was like

1738
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: post maternity. I just came back. I was just going

1739
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: to feel like myself again. And then that interview happened.

1740
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is this is let's go, like,

1741
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm back. I felt like I had been. Was that

1742
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: your favorite interview? No, I wasn't my favorite, but it

1743
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: just had my favorite. No, that's too hard. I don't know.

1744
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Did you have you ever felt as a Latina that

1745
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: there was ever anything against you being Latina? That's a

1746
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: good question. No, not you know what, what I noticed

1747
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: because if you're from New York, you know that if

1748
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,560
Speaker 1: you Puerto Rican and black, we grew up in the

1749
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: same way. There was no separation. Like I didn't even

1750
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that outside of New York things

1751
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: were different away from New York, and so in New York,

1752
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal because I'm Puerto Rican and

1753
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican and Black. We grew up the same. We

1754
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: go to the same corner store, we talked the same,

1755
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: everybody smokes Newports, everybody like it was like we lived

1756
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: the same life. So there wasn't a real separation. I

1757
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: know it's in different cities. It wasn't like that, But

1758
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: it was until I got on and then I would

1759
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 1: travel that people would be surprised, like, oh, who's this.

1760
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: Remember one time I was somewhere early in my career,

1761
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 1: just started traveling a little bit, hosting parties. It wasn't

1762
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: even l A was whatever another city and somebody said

1763
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: to me, who you Lisa Lisa. I was like, Lisa Lisa,

1764
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 1: because that's the only reference of a Latina even in

1765
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: the space that they ever had. It was such a

1766
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: weird and I was like, wow, people I didn't. I

1767
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: didn't realize until I went out of town that there was.

1768
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: But in New York that was never a thing. You

1769
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I love Salam always says

1770
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 1: the Salam just said this to me. I saw him

1771
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: earlier that he noticed that after I had, you know,

1772
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 1: become something on the radio, that he noticed that a

1773
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: lot of radio stations across the country started putting employing

1774
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: like an Angie Martinez. It's still to this day. I

1775
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: was gonna say that there's still to this day like

1776
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: that everywhere, like actually that it's called that's like the

1777
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: most flattering things, like when I speak to independence and

1778
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I'd be like like, oh, normal, um, you know l A,

1779
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she has the Angie slot. And I'm like, Okay,

1780
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty great. That's dope, It's amazing, amazing. So I

1781
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: would actually, what's the proudest moment? But you know this

1782
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: is drink champce, So what is the moment that you

1783
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: wish you could have took back? Who's the worst moment?

1784
01:34:58,520 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know if I have a

1785
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: good answer for the question, because I hate to answer

1786
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: because I always ask people this question and then they're

1787
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: like you know, everything happens for a reason, So I

1788
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: don't think this is a drink chance. But it's such

1789
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: a shitty answer. I never want to say it, but

1790
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 1: it really is the truth. You learned from every situation. Um,

1791
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's things that would have done different, though

1792
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I can't think of him

1793
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: right now. That's a whack answer right now. I'm sorry.

1794
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: You can edit that part out. You don't. Now. We

1795
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: try not to as a little as possible. We had

1796
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: the guy Rory here, he tried to edit and it

1797
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: didn't go right. He tried to trying to edit. To

1798
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 1: think about this, we want to be as raw as

1799
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: it is. And I want to tell you, you know,

1800
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: to your face, um, when it comes to media, like

1801
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you my godfather, but I gotta remember

1802
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: like you're like you're you know, godmother, because like I've

1803
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: said this a couple of times, but I want to

1804
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: say this on our plan for him. I remember me

1805
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 1: and a she I just finally had the number one

1806
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: because I had to r e that hit number one

1807
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: on the Battle of the Beach and the number one

1808
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: on Hot nine. But I was on the road. But

1809
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: when super Dog hit number one, I was in New

1810
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 1: York City and I remember this like it was yesterday,

1811
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: and you you called me up and he was like,

1812
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: bo and I guess, you know, like when I like

1813
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: person hit number one, they like they like to borrow

1814
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: this interview, and I guess I was like, I was

1815
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: just energetic, and he was like, Okay, you built for this.

1816
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: And you said to me, you know I'm gonna get

1817
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: sick on Wednesday, so you're gonna fill in for me.

1818
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for that, so I went and

1819
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember it was because I remember the

1820
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 1: the number for Honey seven. And um, I don't remember

1821
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 1: if I knew the number because I was practicing, or

1822
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 1: knew the number because I used to be thirsty trying

1823
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: to call in to get my record play. But I

1824
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: remember how I just putting me in that position. And

1825
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: and that's the very first time I actually got love

1826
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 1: to interview somebody to deliver information. I always wanted the

1827
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: information to be delivered to me, and you saw that

1828
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 1: in me, and I know you didn't really know, but

1829
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: but you didn't really know because you're like a gurule. No.

1830
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: This is a thing thing I can see that in people.

1831
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll see, like, I don't know that you could,

1832
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: because you have to be able to command the conversation

1833
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 1: and deliver and have a perspective and not be afraid

1834
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: to have an opinion or I don't know, just just

1835
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: be engaging. There's people that could talk all day, talk day,

1836
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: and who cares. But then there's people who can talk

1837
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: all day and then you you're paying attention for some

1838
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 1: reason and something about your delivery that keeps your attention,

1839
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: and that to me is what we all strive to

1840
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: be able to do. Um. So sometimes I could see

1841
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: that in people, whether it be on there or even

1842
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: Joe Button too. We saw that earlier Joe um back

1843
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: him up, bat him up to him. He always had

1844
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 1: that too, Miss Lloyd's from Rappers transitioning because you know,

1845
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: you know, for so long it was either you you know,

1846
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 1: have a jump shot or after after your career is over,

1847
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: it's done, it's done, which is so whack. That's whack

1848
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,560
Speaker 1: a cultural community. How do you grow like that? You

1849
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: don't have a perspective, You can't only have one perspective

1850
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: like I was trying, like, you have to be able

1851
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 1: to have an old g perspective too, and I know

1852
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: you hate the word you do have to balance. It's like,

1853
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: we spent all this time to create this culture that

1854
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: you're just gonna leave it in the hands of the inexperience.

1855
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: You want to give the inexperience and the new the

1856
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to grow and have their own lane. And that's great,

1857
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: but you don't want to negate all the lessons and

1858
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: all the things that we have learned and also to

1859
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: be able to elevate it and pick people up by Yeah,

1860
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: the big home with little programs were important, but like

1861
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and we've advocated for us to have a

1862
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: hip hop union, meaning like we ain't organizing the unfortunately

1863
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: you know what not anyway, but I think I think

1864
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: with Nipsies pass and I think this is Nipsey would

1865
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: have been somebody to help lead something like that. Yeah,

1866
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: because because the thing about it is like, if Caress

1867
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: gets sick right now, I don't believe that it's on

1868
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: the responsibility of his family. I believe that he gave

1869
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: hip hop so much that he should get something back

1870
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 1: that I mean, not even get something back. His bill

1871
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 1: should be taken care of. He should have no worries

1872
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: do you do you believe. Of course I believe that.

1873
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: I wish we were not organized. And I've heard people

1874
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: have this conversation over the years, but like, who's our leader,

1875
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how that happens or how

1876
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: we do have leaders that could I think and I

1877
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: think should give the money to David Banner and kill him. Mike,

1878
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: they don't trust them, they don't have they can create

1879
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, I mean I think it should trying

1880
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: to kill him. I think SAG is a perfect example

1881
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: of what we could create in hip hop right now

1882
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: because all levels you can be and you ca look,

1883
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 1: there is another thing. They sent me a letter the

1884
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: other day. I was I felt offended. They said, this

1885
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: is my retirement of the company. Other then it was

1886
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: so it's a sack, it's the sad of music business.

1887
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 1: And they gave me they say, yo, listen, here's your yo.

1888
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: Not not at all suits with the s No. No,

1889
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. It's something like that

1890
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: sounded no, no, no, this is that nothing to do

1891
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: this guy ship with your retirement. Yeah, this is a fact.

1892
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't see sack. I don't know that sounds that's

1893
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: not that bang that you can tell you published you too,

1894
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: God damn all over the place. I have to pass

1895
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: you to Blunt because I passed everybody, and Blunt you

1896
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:56,839
Speaker 1: just say no. You always say that I gotta past everybody.

1897
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: But I've been passing fact Joel Blunt for twenty one years.

1898
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: You know he hit one time. But it wasn't a blunt.

1899
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: It was a vapor was there. It was weird and

1900
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 1: there he had a point, a little CV. I enjoyed

1901
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 1: CBD pen CBD not the same thing. CBD s No,

1902
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I'm ready to let advocate for it. I

1903
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 1: got a company for you. Don't worry about it, Okay,

1904
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 1: I got a company for you. Say it off there, okay,

1905
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 1: but listen, I am just want to tell you that

1906
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, we love you. You don't have been

1907
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: holding down. I I want to do norma you know, no,

1908
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: no no, but guess what. Okay, we want to like

1909
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to start. No no, no, no, no no.

1910
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 1: But the thing is to me, no no. The thing is,

1911
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: it's so corny when people big people. Afterwards, I want

1912
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: to big you up. Why you're here. I wanted you

1913
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: to tell you, like to your face, like I appreciate you.

1914
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: You saw something, you still something meat. Damn there, it

1915
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: was damn there fifteen maybe eighteen years ago, and you

1916
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 1: you told me feeling and I just wanted to be

1917
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: on Hot ninety seven. I had, I did what I

1918
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 1: But that moment leads up to and the thing about

1919
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: it is you've been relentless, You've been resilient on what

1920
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,560
Speaker 1: you do. Don't worry about it. When we have be

1921
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: with Elliott Willson, we used to call us that Elliott

1922
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 1: wasn't trained because every time something he happens, like but

1923
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: we are even great placed a great place. So big

1924
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: up Elliott Wilson. It's not called the Elliot Wasn't trained

1925
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: no more. We call it the adjacent Elliott will Train.

1926
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 1: It's not him, but it's just played. But um in

1927
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: in in our world, it's so corny, like to big

1928
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 1: up the next person. And I want to change that.

1929
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: I want to change the narrative, but that I want

1930
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: people to sit down and say, you know what, what

1931
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: you do, what you do and what you did and

1932
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 1: what you've done is remarkable. And I would like to

1933
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: you to know that, I would like you for you

1934
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: to no, no, yeah, But we were talking about TMX

1935
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Jim Jones got he cry. No, no, it was because

1936
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: it was doing in the middle of the Cameron thing

1937
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: and oh yeah yeah, remember that keep crying our shoe.

1938
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 1: He cried with Flex first and then we had him

1939
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: the very next day and yeah, but they're a great place.

1940
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: So big up to Jim, Big up to Cam kick

1941
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 1: if we did not cry laugh because okay, you know, okay,

1942
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: if we were about childhood, right, I don't know, I

1943
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever knew this story. Nobody wants

1944
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: to heart. Come on, got anything with this one? You?

1945
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: I got one record, I got l A l A

1946
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: maybe t r yse like coming out a little bit right.

1947
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: So I'm on to roll with I Canlelly, I can

1948
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: Letly's gonna roll with kicking Free so I don't smoke.

1949
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm like the wink stuff, even though I'm the guy

1950
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: who smokes, like all they are dancers and then people

1951
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: who don't smoke or at least bust something fucked up.

1952
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: So every like, stop I want to see here, free

1953
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 1: can see smokes. So we stopped bing here just good

1954
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,560
Speaker 1: reasons to me. You ever seen tape, I'm like, you know,

1955
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he's gonna play me some DJ you know,

1956
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody's going I'm nervous, so I'm thinking something.

1957
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: I think you read babies from tape like something like that.

1958
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 1: So I was going on this rule and he got

1959
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: he got to save you. At the time, like the time,

1960
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: I felt like holy ship stick say and we like,

1961
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: he don't want to leave. It's my best friend. But

1962
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: little did I don't know? He said, you ever see

1963
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: my tapes? I said, no, I haven't, and he bloods

1964
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 1: in the date. I fast forward a couple of pots,

1965
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 1: but he ended up with his legs like looking, why

1966
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: would you show you that. I'm like nineteen years old,

1967
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm scarred and this is my favorite teacher. Just get

1968
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: a prey and I'm sitting there, you tell this story. No,

1969
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: he cris but he's like that he literally want it

1970
01:45:54,360 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: churned out and he's like, yeah, you never make that.

1971
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: From that moment on, I was scared. I would never ever.

1972
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 1: This is horrible, terrible like this, so you're another bigger

1973
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: before I can't take. Yeah, but listen, from that moment,

1974
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: I've never been to another man's room. But it's like,

1975
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: you're come on, smoke. I I'm good because I don't

1976
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,560
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna show me. I went to, I

1977
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:43,679
Speaker 1: went to you went to Oh my god, so you came,

1978
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: you hung out and did I enjoyed myself to this

1979
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: was thank you for joining. Yes, and you have your

1980
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 1: own show I do. This is like your your nineteen

1981
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 1: hundred show. You are be getting money for a long time.

1982
01:46:56,479 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean hundred? Damn? You can show together too.

1983
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 1: We are going to do that. We're gonna day, We're

1984
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. Don't say it here. I like that.

1985
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I like that. That's for somebody to beat us to it.

1986
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: You know we moved slow, Yes, beat us right. That's

1987
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 1: a good idea. So, um, what is your favorite part

1988
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: of the industry before we get up out of here?

1989
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: What's your favorite? Like? What do you can't deal with?

1990
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: Like we you can't live without? I like that. I

1991
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: like the idea of that, Like the opportunities are endless,

1992
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: and I like that we've been around long enough to

1993
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 1: see what you know, to watch somebody like Khalid go

1994
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: from a DJ to what he's been able to build,

1995
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 1: or watch somebody watch j and what he's been able

1996
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: to build, or you know, just a different world. How

1997
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: you been able to evolve, Like, yeah, I just saw

1998
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Snoop the other day. I went to his compound and

1999
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: looking at what he's doing in l A, and it's

2000
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like he should like scientology. Well it's

2001
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 1: kind of amazing. It's just like scientology, like you feel

2002
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: like incredible, you know, scientology, and he's amazing anyway. So

2003
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: I just feel like I never feel like there's not

2004
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 1: another thing I could do. I'm always chasing something else

2005
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm ow and the opportunities like are endless, right, and

2006
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: so we could always grow, we could always There's always

2007
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: even if I just was doing radio, right and I

2008
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: didn't have these TV aspirations and things I'm trying to

2009
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: do in different spaces, even a radio, there's always a

2010
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: new artist to kind of understand and a new thing

2011
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: happening within the culture. It's just a forever evolving thing.

2012
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: So it just never gets boring, you know what I'm saying, Like,

2013
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: it's always I don't know, it's always growing and always

2014
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, keep going. Okay, So when we interview every artist,

2015
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: we go through the discography. Oh god, that was something

2016
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: that you walk in here, Yeah, you were playing and

2017
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: your face was like, what are they doing you literally

2018
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: stop doing that. I don't really have to stop doing it.

2019
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: Don't to say something I used to be like that.

2020
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: You never like that reggae thrown. At one point when

2021
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: I felt like I represented for reggae thrown, like reggae

2022
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: thrown didn't represent for me. I was bitter. So I

2023
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: hated everything that I ever did. And then I realized,

2024
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: fun these guys accepted me or not. I set me

2025
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: and what I did this history, and I accepted that

2026
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 1: when you think you'll ever be there, it's different for me,

2027
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: right because because you really like you literally you walked

2028
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 1: to hand. Because I always compare it to like when

2029
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,799
Speaker 1: you like somebody busting out, like let's say something everywhere

2030
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: you when somebody pulled out your junior high school photo,

2031
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: you'd be like, please stop pulling that. Same to me

2032
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: that time, I was like, it just feels. And also

2033
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have the luxury of I was ready on

2034
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the radio. I was ready doing so so by the

2035
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,759
Speaker 1: time I started doing music, I'm a baby. I'm literally

2036
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 1: writing my first eight or as ever, like I'm learning

2037
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: how to do this, but in public it would be

2038
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:11,560
Speaker 1: a DJ call it because he was you was you

2039
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: have to be his inspiration. But what I was saying

2040
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 1: is that I didn't get a chance to. So we

2041
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 1: did the first album, which I think was you know,

2042
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: it was okay. Second if I could go it was

2043
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 1: a top ten hit UM. But I don't feel like

2044
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: I gave myself the chance to evolve to the type

2045
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: of artists that I probably could have warned up becoming UM.

2046
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 1: And so because when I hear it, I hear the

2047
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: baby noess of it. I hear like like a fresh

2048
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 1: new artist who doesn't I'm still learning. I'm still learning.

2049
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm not as good as I could have been or

2050
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: eventually been, right, And so when I hear it, now

2051
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 1: that's all I hear, it's like, I don't know if

2052
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: it bothers me, but I have to get over that

2053
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: because what I realized I gotta get over because what

2054
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: I realized is that there are people that connected to it.

2055
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: So I'll get some girl I meet, some girls should

2056
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: be like, well I love this, so abody out and

2057
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 1: I'm like you did, And I don't want to take

2058
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: that away from her because I you know what I'm saying,

2059
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: because of whatever my things are, So I really have

2060
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: to stop doing that. And you know how classic Ladies

2061
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 1: Night is. It was classic, yeah, super classic. Yeah, ladies

2062
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 1: and I was classic. And that was the first like,

2063
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: that was the first thing I ever wrote, was my

2064
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: verse for that. Like I never wrote anything in my

2065
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: whole life until I wrote my verse for Ladies Night.

2066
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: Before that, I've only been on one other song and

2067
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: kras One wrote it for me. So it was like

2068
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: I did that with Arrest that he wrote it was

2069
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: just like spit this and I was like okay. And

2070
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: then the next time Lance was like I want you

2071
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: to put you on. It was like, I want to

2072
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: put you on Ladies Night. And then I had to

2073
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 1: write a verse. Oh, I always thought that was your record.

2074
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 1: That was Kim's rick plenty tonight. Eight bars on the intro,

2075
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: that's all. I was like, you killed that, you killed it,

2076
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Thank you you. I always thought it was your record,

2077
01:51:53,080 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: that's whatever you thought that was my record. Eight I

2078
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 1: was only on eight bars the intro. And then what

2079
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: what happened was because the other radio stations would hate

2080
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: because I was still on the air, the other radio

2081
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: stations would play the record without my eight bars, and

2082
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, that's some real sucker ship.

2083
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: Even z One hundred, like the big pop radio station

2084
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,759
Speaker 1: at the time. I'm like, I'm not even your competition,

2085
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: your pop. Why you cut my first off? Why would

2086
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: you do that? Like Mad Stations did that? Of course

2087
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 1: the country that would cut my verse off of the

2088
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: song it skim song. And they put me on at

2089
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: the end, and I was happy to be there. I

2090
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: don't care. I traveled to the MTV Awards with them.

2091
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: I did. We got nominated for a Grammy. It was

2092
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 1: crazy or for eight bars my first date boars I

2093
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: ever broke. I got nominated for a Grammy with them, Angie.

2094
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 1: I just want you to know you're a super legend.

2095
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 1: You're a super queen in this game. Yeah, we love

2096
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 1: you so much. Um your you represent hip hop. Ah,

2097
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 1: you represented how to do business. I swear to God

2098
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: like you and Floyd was the first people like I realized, like,

2099
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 1: you'll put yourself before the corporation and put your family

2100
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: before it, and and the thing about it is, I

2101
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 1: just want you to know you appreciated. I want you

2102
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: to know the dynamics when I thought of everyone's top five, Um,

2103
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: I've interviewed not one of them. You know, I'm only

2104
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 1: three years in this game. But when I think of

2105
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 1: everybody's top five, there's no one's list of top five

2106
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: that you haven't had. Like anybody name your top five?

2107
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're a little wit. Come on the

2108
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 1: way you look at like Carros Yeah, yes, yes, yes,

2109
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: okay as four guy, name the top five? Four man,

2110
01:53:54,040 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Bibe Daddy Lauren m. That's a very poor going on,

2111
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: especially people at night. By the way, yes, yes, yes,

2112
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: and yes the top tive what's your top five? Jay

2113
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 1: z Young? You're so Kendrick's in there? No, I haven't done. Kendrick.

2114
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 1: We almost had a camera on time. Okay, we got

2115
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: one more. That's the only way it was. Once or

2116
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 1: twice we were supposed to come over here, come over

2117
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: here and listen. I'm gonna be honest. When you gave

2118
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: me baby powder. By the way, Kendrick, it's time, Yeah,

2119
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: you gave me baby powder. Gotta say, I gotta say

2120
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 1: pot huh, I got too short? Easy, Mr Lee, they

2121
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: gotta go easy ease on your top five? And who else? Wait?

2122
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: What was the last two? Ain't both of them? I

2123
01:54:55,760 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 1: would take the easy? Yes, you interviewed easy? Wait? Did

2124
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 1: an interview easy? Because I wasn't not in the air

2125
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: yet but met Easy and partied with Easy and because

2126
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 1: he was I don't know how Steve Rifkin knew them

2127
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. But when I was coming up and me

2128
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: and Steve wi cool and I don't know, we're in

2129
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 1: the party, introduced us and we all hung out. And

2130
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 1: then so it's funny because I still have a business.

2131
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: He must get Easy must have gave me his business card.

2132
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 1: I still have Easy East business card. Like that was

2133
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: a flaw. That was a flaw. Oh wait, I have

2134
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: Easy East business card. I have Branson's business card. Flaws.

2135
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: He had a business and it was like music industry executive.

2136
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: It is what it says. I had that. I have

2137
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: a pack of Newports that me and Pop smoke. I

2138
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: have had the box as like a couple of segarettes

2139
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 1: cement I have. I have like a couple of key

2140
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: pieces of museum basically, how about the I have a

2141
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: couple of key little It's gonna go in Nazi's hip

2142
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 1: hop museum. You know naz Is. I love he's doing that. Yeah,

2143
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: I got a few pieces. Look at the time, you

2144
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 1: got the new points that you smoke prop okay, I

2145
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: the Newport lights on Newport regulars. Alright, I need to

2146
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 1: know that he didn't know what type and these he

2147
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 1: smoke lights. I was going a different opinion and it

2148
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 1: had like one turned over. Oh he had a wish,

2149
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 1: you had a wish? Holy Ship was a real nigga? Okay,

2150
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 1: this is yeah, That's that's all I needed. That's all

2151
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 1: I needed. So, uh, what's the worst moment? Why I

2152
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 1: keep little things like that when I feel like it's

2153
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: a moment, like even when like I had the little

2154
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 1: thing that Chris Brown wants did on a piece of

2155
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: paper like a piece of art. When Takashi six nine

2156
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 1: was on my show, he was explaining to me the

2157
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: meaning of six nine because it wasn't what I expected,

2158
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: And so he took a piece of paper and he

2159
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: wrote the number six on it right, and he was

2160
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: like what do you see? And I was like six

2161
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: And he was like what do you see now? I

2162
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: was like nine and he was like, see, you just

2163
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 1: saw something from two different perspectives, um. And he talked

2164
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,879
Speaker 1: about how you could see somebody who does a robbery

2165
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: and you could look at them and say, oh, he's terrible,

2166
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: he's a criminal, but if you flip it and you

2167
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 1: see them in a different way. You can see this

2168
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: is a father who's trying to feed this kid. I'm

2169
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 1: paraphrasing the story, but it was about being able to

2170
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: see people in different ways. And I thought it was

2171
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: so dope and interesting that I I kept a napkin.

2172
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: I kept a little napkin where he wrote the six

2173
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: of the nine because I thought this was like I felt,

2174
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: and I just felt in that moment. So I just

2175
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: found it the other day. I was like, oh, this

2176
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: is the sixth time napkin, and I put it with

2177
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 1: my other stuff and I kept it. But I have

2178
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: like little things like that that I'll keep if I

2179
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: feel like it's a moment. You ain't got anything from

2180
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 1: Joe to see for some reason, I feel like you got,

2181
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 1: like Joe Joe something. Let me just he has a

2182
01:57:56,680 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: tennis ball from Caress one from shot six three Carros

2183
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 1: when first came here. He has a ninety two and

2184
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 1: my mind is eight tennis ball with a signature on it.

2185
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 1: At the party party and who remembers that he has

2186
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 1: a tennis ball. I brought it to him on the

2187
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 1: interview him on the show. That's the craziest thing, all right,

2188
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: this isn't my song calling I have to dance, Okay,

2189
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: on here, you want me to, Well, I'm not gonna

2190
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, yeah, hey baby, this is this is

2191
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: this is different. Okay, we're here. We're riding up right now.

2192
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Mama's coming up to it. This is mama ship. She's

2193
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: she's a chance. Mommyya okay, I'm on my way back up.

2194
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: See in a few minutes, I killed that mommy, Ona.

2195
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: I had to pick up with my kid. That's that.

2196
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 1: So let's let's take some lor I think I think

2197
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 1: you were sitting down with us. So is there anything

2198
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: you want the people to know before you leave? When

2199
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: did that book come up? You got two books? You

2200
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 1: got two books. I do have to one about healthy

2201
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Latin thing, cooking and eating what I did. But then

2202
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: I have my memoir, which is that was like a

2203
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: real book book, A long time to write, like I

2204
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: would do it again. I'm right, I'm actually in the

2205
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: process I probably shouldn't say this yet, but in the

2206
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: process of writing changing the book to a script Healthy

2207
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: Latin make a script book. I want to be in

2208
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 1: a movie, like I want to try to eat healthy too,

2209
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:44,839
Speaker 1: the movie we would together. That's right. I was very awkward.

2210
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 1: I was Tuesday. He was Tuesday, very okay because like

2211
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 1: like we have developed his brother's just the like relationship.

2212
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 1: And then Dame we're in this movie. It's like, okay,

2213
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 1: getting the band together. I was like, well, I'm not

2214
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't believing I'm wearing a rod. I'm not wearing

2215
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: a rock. We're gonna do that. He perfect, And we

2216
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: also did paper soldiers as well o paper soldiers. That's right.

2217
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, and I'll probably see a

2218
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 1: role for you in the movie. Let me ask you

2219
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 1: this a promise. It's probably be the next last question. Okay,

2220
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: didn't you ever think that Rock and Feller, like when

2221
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: you see like you know, Dame and Jay, was that

2222
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 1: you ever thought that you would see it here? Now? No,

2223
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't even think anybody could. How could anybody see that?

2224
02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 1: But you I definitely could feel that. It was not

2225
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 1: like anything else, like how they were moving and the

2226
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 1: ship they were talking and you know, and the big

2227
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 1: vision that they always had. Dame was always like we

2228
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 1: could do that ourselves. I could do that. I could honestly,

2229
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 1: that was very like influential to me. Like I don't

2230
02:00:58,240 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 1: know if I even give Dame enough credit for that

2231
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 1: because watching him make those movies. Never had megan movies before,

2232
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: and he was like, we know the culture better than

2233
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 1: anybody else. We don't make our own movies. That was

2234
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 1: really like inspiring to me and made me see but

2235
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 1: it made me see things in a different way, like

2236
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 1: it's possible, but by the way, it's all possible. But

2237
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, that was like and there was there was

2238
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 1: good to me too. I remember we did um you know,

2239
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 1: I was supposed to do American Idol one year. It

2240
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 1: was the first one. What happened with? What the funk?

2241
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: I do? Remember that? Is it true that you just

2242
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 1: didn't like turning down? I was very uncomfortable. The whole

2243
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 1: thing was really weird, and they wanted me to be

2244
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 1: this likely and I just was like I just wasn't

2245
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: feeling the whole. I can't be telling a lot of

2246
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 1: people they whack in their face. I can tell you

2247
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 1: whack behind your back, but like like a I don't

2248
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 1: want to hate to hurt nobody feelings in the face,

2249
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: so that you was going to be the latter didn't

2250
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 1: wanted me to be somewhat like that and I which

2251
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 1: just wasn't me. And I was also pregnant at the time,

2252
02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: which they didn't know, so I was already emotional about it. Whatever.

2253
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'll tell you why I didn't do it

2254
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: in the first place. But when I got there, I

2255
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 1: needed stuff I needed. Like we were doing the runs.

2256
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: I went out with them on the road the first

2257
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 1: couple of days we did the Trials of the Earth

2258
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 1: and whatever, and I had hit Dame because you know,

2259
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 1: rock Boy was popping. I was like, damn, I need

2260
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 1: a box of clothes. I'm doing this thing for American

2261
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 1: I know. He was like what what he gave me?

2262
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 1: This whole lecture about this is great for you. You

2263
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 1: should do it, but you know you're gonna be around

2264
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: those people. You're just gonna move fast. People are gonna

2265
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 1: try to get you to change, keep people, keep the

2266
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 1: same people around you, because if you go into hollywooden

2267
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,800
Speaker 1: you start doing that, you're gonna change. Don't let people

2268
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:38,560
Speaker 1: change you, keep keep. And it just stayed with me,

2269
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: like make sure you keep people around you that keep

2270
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: you who you are, that you don't get lost in

2271
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 1: the whole other world. And like he let gave me

2272
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 1: like a lecture on it that always stayed with me also,

2273
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: but kind of Mr leea sonny around and up. Yeah,

2274
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 1: take your cups into the back there, because you know

2275
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 1: Mr Lee will bring your cup in the bathroom and

2276
02:02:57,120 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: Sunny will break your right. But listen, listen what happens

2277
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,840
Speaker 1: to people, right, Even rappers are artists. You You you

2278
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 1: come from a certain place, you you're handling yourself a

2279
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 1: certain way, and then all of a sudden you get

2280
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: these opportunities and these other spaces, and all of a

2281
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: sudden you're around people got are not from where you're from,

2282
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,280
Speaker 1: and then all a sudden the changes your perspective and

2283
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:18,120
Speaker 1: you start moving the front. I get that, and so

2284
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 1: it's important to keep people around you that it's not

2285
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: just to stay grounded, but it's yeah, I guess, stay

2286
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: grounded and give you that right perspective. And if you

2287
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: can't lose it, you could lose yourself if when you

2288
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 1: get too certain. And I watched it, I've seen it

2289
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: happened to many people. I know, many famous people, and

2290
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: I watched many famous people float off into this world

2291
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: and they're gone, and I just I don't know. I

2292
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: thought that was just dope advice. And he cared so

2293
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 1: much the way he gave it to me. That I

2294
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 1: just always you know what I mean. I appreciated that

2295
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: as anybody ever been. Anybody like fronted on you and

2296
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 1: then they got and then they like they got go

2297
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:59,760
Speaker 1: washed up and you was happy about it, like fun

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Speaker 1: ever happy about it. I went to Allah. I'm in

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Speaker 1: completely have cases because you know how many people see

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02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 1: come and come and go. You know, they've been looking

2301
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 1: at me like I don't know waft and they're like

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02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 1: the old man. I'm like, they're not alone man, and

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02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: then they'll say alright, cool and then they didn't man that. Yeah,

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02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 1: they got their go fronts. But here's what's whack. You

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02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 1: don't ever want to karma is I believe in karma, right,

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02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 1: So somebody does me something dirty, I go, you hold that,

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02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: you hold that karma. I'm gonna go keep it pushing

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02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 1: and try to do what I had to do. But

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02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 1: when the karma comes, because it always comes, I make

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Speaker 1: sure that I don't rejoice and whatever, because that's because

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Speaker 1: they're not bringing me back into it. And I see

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Speaker 1: that with people happen. You don't spike the ball when

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Speaker 1: you see something like now, I don't do it. I

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Speaker 1: don't do it because sometimes I do. I'm I'm very like,

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02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm very particular about my energy just going on

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02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 1: certain people Instagram, but like, all right, he's still hurting

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Speaker 1: that that's cool stuff. Ain't get up at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes to do it, i'd be fair, I'll be afraid

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Speaker 1: of God. I'm afraid to have those type of thoughts

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02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 1: because I feel like God see me, and he'd be like,

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02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:10,120
Speaker 1: oh really, no, I don't have those thoughts. But I

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02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 1: look and I say, Okay, that's a that's not just

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02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: the thought, it's an action. It's too bad things. I've

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02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 1: been afraid to let myself go into a negative place

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02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 1: like that because I feel like I will be punished

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02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: for that. I feel like then Mike Carment is gonna

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02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 1: come back to me. So I'm very careful about that.

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02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 1: So I just let people we have their thing. And

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02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:31,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I have a problem with somebody and somebody come

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Speaker 1: back around and be like, you see what's happened to them?

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02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 1: Now that's what they get, And I'm like, don't please,

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Speaker 1: don't bring that, don't bring that on again to me.

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Speaker 1: This happened recently. But you do that. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you heard what happening, right, I told that's me helping me. Honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm pretty but you know, you know, you

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02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 1: know what got me like like, I have to start

2337
02:05:56,960 --> 02:06:02,160
Speaker 1: realizing that sometimes you just gotta be petty. Listen, out

2338
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 1: of out of how many seconds of the day there is,

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02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 1: you allowed twelve seconds to hate. That's a lie in

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02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: the particulars twelve seconds to hate on some ship, only

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02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 1: twelve seconds to day. You guess what's gonna happen to you?

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Speaker 1: Twelve this seconds. It's gonna come back to yours at

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Speaker 1: some point. No, that's why it's twelve seconds. You just

2344
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 1: get awad of it. You never think about it scientific

2345
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 1: like how did you come up with that number? That's

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Speaker 1: how I called it. Called it blow blow fucking, blow fucking,

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Speaker 1: blow fucking and just just seconds. Nobody at home take

2348
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Speaker 1: this advice. This is terrible advice. No, I definitely didn't

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Speaker 1: tell them to take my advice, and I'll tell them

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Speaker 1: this is just mine. I like to go to Costcoles

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Speaker 1: a piece of ship for twelve You allowed twelve seconds

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Speaker 1: to be allowed. No, no, no, no, I'm not telling

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Speaker 1: you to like to put you on Twitter, not telling

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Speaker 1: you to put it on social media. I'm saying twelve sex,

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02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, if you want to sit because my

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Speaker 1: man right there, he got on George. Right, he has George.

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02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 1: We got to talk George. Like George jeans shorts. Now

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Speaker 1: in New York, those are got shorts. Those are George.

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02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 1: George short pants. It's called George. They're short pants in

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Speaker 1: New York. And in New York they're frowned upon. You are.

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Speaker 1: So that's my mind. In my mind, when I looked

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Speaker 1: at this George, I like him as a person.