Speaker 1: Welcome Everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton show Cat's Going Right Now Election Day edition, in fact,
Speaker 1: a day of votes and a day of balls. Play
Speaker 1: Travis's book goes officially on sale today. The title Easy
Speaker 1: to Remember, Easy to Spell be a l LS, and
Speaker 1: there are in fact two balls of the basketball variety
Speaker 1: on the cover. Author Play Travis, Guys, if we want
Speaker 1: good books coming out from good people on the right,
Speaker 1: we gotta go buy them. Okay, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: in the era of podcasting and TV and YouTube and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, I've got my book coming out in February.
Speaker 1: February seventeenth is the day Clay's book's out today. I'm
Speaker 1: just bringing this up though, because the amount of work
Speaker 1: you do to actually write your book. Clay writes his books.
Speaker 1: I have written my book, meaning sat there at a computer,
Speaker 1: not paid somebody else to do it. It's a whole conversation.
Speaker 1: Sat there at a computer and did the writing. It
Speaker 1: is something that I hope people will appreciate on our
Speaker 1: side of things, and the best way to show appreciation
Speaker 1: is by buying the copies. Let's get Clay on the
Speaker 1: bestseller list. Clay will be talking to you more about
Speaker 1: ball throughout the program, But it is election day and
Speaker 1: that is going to be, of course our focus today.
Speaker 1: And we have a whole bunch of things happening all
Speaker 1: at once. The New York City race is the one
Speaker 1: that is getting by far the most attention. New Jersey
Speaker 1: is going to be a squeaker. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be tight. Virginia not looking so good for our
Speaker 1: cubernatorial candidate win some series not looking so good at
Speaker 1: this point. But go out vote. Don't listen to me.
Speaker 1: What do I know. I'm some guy just squawking nonsense
Speaker 1: on the radio. Go vote.
Speaker 2: By the way, Also, age is going to come down
Speaker 2: potentially in Virginia to a pen pricks difference based on
Speaker 2: everything we're seeing, So it's important. Yes, we may lose
Speaker 2: a governor's race, we may lose a different aspec but
Speaker 2: the down ballot can be hugely important too, So Lieutenant
Speaker 2: governor is an important job in Virginia. Attorney general, certainly
Speaker 2: we want you to go vote for wins some seers two,
Speaker 2: But the attorney general race looks like it could be
Speaker 2: in Virginia one of the tightest out there. To bucks point,
Speaker 2: New Jersey governor, Republicans win if Republicans show up in
Speaker 2: big numbers today in New Jersey. Everybody listening to us
Speaker 2: on WR and other stations in New Jersey, if you
Speaker 2: have not voted, go do it. Go vote everywhere, because
Speaker 2: it really is likely to come down to a hair's
Speaker 2: breadth margin in many of these races.
Speaker 1: We have the biggest last minute I think change in
Speaker 1: the voting situation or in the endorsements around that. We
Speaker 1: have a Trump endorsement of drum Roll Andrew Cuomo in
Speaker 1: the New York City mayor's race. This is something that
Speaker 1: now Clay, you've been telling our beloved audience that you
Speaker 1: think that this is the right move. And there have
Speaker 1: been some New Yorkers who have been calling you from
Speaker 1: parts of South Brooklyn with a very upset. They don't
Speaker 1: like this talk from Clay about voting for the Kami well,
Speaker 1: voting for Cuomo only, voting for Sliwa allowed. Clay does
Speaker 1: not like, does not like the prospects of Sliwa winning
Speaker 1: this and so has made the machiavellian decision to go
Speaker 1: in favor of a Cuomo as the lesser of two evils.
Speaker 1: And I do think two evils is the right way
Speaker 1: to describe those candidates. And we have a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of reaction to this, Clay, I want you to react well.
Speaker 1: First of all, Stephen Miller, who we know another a
Speaker 1: brilliant strategist and a senior White House aid and friend
Speaker 1: of the show. This has cut seven. Here he is saying,
Speaker 1: anti mom Donnie vote, go vote Cuomo, play.
Speaker 3: It as far as New York is concerned, as you
Speaker 3: talked about, as we've said, unfortunately, the anti Momdamie vote
Speaker 3: is being split between Cuomo and Sliwa, and President Trump
Speaker 3: tonight put out a statement being clear that if you
Speaker 3: vote for Sliwa, who's pulling at about a third of
Speaker 3: where Cuomo is, you're just throwing your vote away The
Speaker 3: anti mom Domie vote, which is really the pro New
Speaker 3: York City vote, the pro America vote, needs to unite
Speaker 3: behind the leading candidate, and that's Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1: Man, there you go.
Speaker 2: Is everybody going to be as angry at Trump and
Speaker 2: Stephen Miller for telling you on the day before the
Speaker 2: election what I have been telling you for weeks, which
Speaker 2: is Sliwa can't win and all he is doing is
Speaker 2: helping Mamdanni and we had him on last week and
Speaker 2: I asked him this directly. I think Curtis Sliwa hates
Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo, and he has stayed in the race partly
Speaker 2: out of principle because it is true that Democrats have
Speaker 2: created this problem, but also, as he told us, because
Speaker 2: he truly does not see a difference between Mom Donnie
Speaker 2: and Cuomo. And so the idea that he would help
Speaker 2: either of those guys, particularly Cuomo, who I think he
Speaker 2: probably hates more than he does Mom Donni because they
Speaker 2: have history together, is a decision that he made. And
Speaker 2: my concern is that when we get these results start
Speaker 2: rolling in tonight, that we will see Mom Donnie not
Speaker 2: win over fifty percent of the vote and win because
Speaker 2: the anti Mam Donnie vote was split between Sleeve one
Speaker 2: and Cuomo. And that's what Trump is telling us now.
Speaker 1: Buck. It may also be the case, based on this.
Speaker 2: Turnout, that Mam Donnie wins over fifty percent, and it
Speaker 2: wouldn't have mattered anyway. And if that's going to end
Speaker 2: up happening, then all this was for naught, no matter what.
Speaker 2: And it would suggest that at least in New York City.
Speaker 2: Being an avowed socialist candidate doesn't put much of a
Speaker 2: of a rock on top of your head of expectations,
Speaker 2: and so your see is maybe higher than people would
Speaker 2: have anticipated. So this is where we're going to start
Speaker 2: to see what the results of this race truly are.
Speaker 2: And I'm up in New York City right now, and
Speaker 2: it's all everybody's talking about, and it looks like the
Speaker 2: New York City Mayor's race may set an all time
Speaker 2: record for most votes. I just want to let you
Speaker 2: know New Yorkers that I did encourage Clay to walk
Speaker 2: around and offer to sign copies for anybody who buys
Speaker 2: balls of his book, but not to hand out flyers
Speaker 2: about moving to Franklin, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: That it's too soon. We have to see how this
Speaker 1: shakes out. He's not allowed to recruit off the streets
Speaker 1: of New York while he's there in our darkest hour
Speaker 1: of communists taking over. So he has agreed he will
Speaker 1: sign the book, but he will not give you flyers
Speaker 1: on how to move, how to get a U haul
Speaker 1: set up for Tennessee's I.
Speaker 2: Will say the numbers out there. Did you see this
Speaker 2: report that a million people say they're going to leave
Speaker 2: New York City now I think this it's a little
Speaker 2: bit by people who say I'm gonna move to Canada
Speaker 2: Trump Wins. I doubt that most of them would move,
Speaker 2: but let's say that one hundred thousand, ten percent of
Speaker 2: the million. I don't think that's crazy. I think one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand New Yorkers, if i'm Donnie Wins might say
Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm going to Florida, I'm going to Texas,
Speaker 2: I'm going to Tennessee. What did Davy Crockett say, you
Speaker 2: can go to Hell, I'm going to Texas? All time,
Speaker 2: great line Crockettcoffee dot COM's Davy Crockett, not Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 2: But I think there's some people who just say New
Speaker 2: York can go to Hell. I'm going to Texas, or
Speaker 2: I'm going to Tennessee, or I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Ll Certainly, there certainly will be some outflow I think
Speaker 1: into the tri State, so Connecticut, New Jersey, New York
Speaker 1: outside of the urban the urban bubble that will happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know in what numbers. There have been people
Speaker 1: snapping up real estate. It's one thing to move to
Speaker 1: Putnam County. It's another thing to move to beach, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's another thing to decide you're going to or to
Speaker 1: Orlando or wherever. So we'll see. I agree, Clay, I
Speaker 1: don't think I think people are frustrated. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that you'll see a large out flood New Yorkers because
Speaker 1: I think that most of the New Yorkers who are
Speaker 1: going to leave, like me, left during COVID. I think
Speaker 1: that that pushed a lot further in this direction than
Speaker 1: anything we're seeing right now. But we'll see. We'll see
Speaker 1: the number of people that want to move versus who
Speaker 1: will move. That is an important distinction as well. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people will want to move, but
Speaker 1: it's hard. You got family, anything else. But tell me this.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with this assessment of Van Jones over
Speaker 1: this is cut fourteen, suggesting that the Cuomo endorsement by
Speaker 1: Trump could, given the political realities of New York, actually
Speaker 1: hurt Cuomo play play fourteen.
Speaker 4: Look, I there must have been some kind of handshake
Speaker 4: deal between Mom, Donnie and Trump for Trump coming in
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 5: Fit faceted endorsement and non endorsement.
Speaker 4: But like, I can't think of a worse thing to
Speaker 4: have than to Cuomo than for Donald Trump to come
Speaker 4: out last night in this town and say what he said?
Speaker 1: What do you think of that?
Speaker 2: I think it's probably why they waited until now, candidly,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of early voting that's already taken place,
Speaker 2: and I suspect that they said, early voting, you made
Speaker 2: juice turnout. I don't think most people on election day
Speaker 2: are going to be motivated to vote against Trump. I
Speaker 2: think Trump's calculus is there might be some people out
Speaker 2: there that haven't decided how they're going to vote, and
Speaker 2: if it's a close race, that this could swing the difference.
Speaker 2: My concern now is, Mom, Donnie seems to be rolling
Speaker 2: buck and that if he wins over fifty percent, then
Speaker 2: all of this was for naught. I mean, to be fair,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't have mattered if Curtis Lee what was in.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have mattered how many other candidates were there,
Speaker 2: because if he wins over fifty percent, then the majority
Speaker 2: of New York voters, and a majority of New York
Speaker 2: voters with a huge turnout potentially record are saying, Mam,
Speaker 2: Donnie's our guy. Now, Cuomo, I think has run a
Speaker 2: poor campaign, but he's actually pointing out something that is
Speaker 2: very important.
Speaker 1: Cut sixteen.
Speaker 2: He's saying what Mamdanni is promising to people he doesn't
Speaker 2: even have the power to deliver on. And I do
Speaker 2: think that that might be beneficial to New York City.
Speaker 2: Cut sixteen.
Speaker 5: I called them the TikTok promises that he put forth
Speaker 5: in the primary. None of them are real. The mayor
Speaker 5: is going to freeze the rent. People think it means
Speaker 5: he's going to freeze their rent. No, no, no, no. First
Speaker 5: of all, the mayor has no ability to freeze anybody's rent,
Speaker 5: no legal ability. It's done by an independent board that
Speaker 5: is term appointed. And then it's only for about twenty
Speaker 5: five percent of the housing units called the rent stabilized units,
Speaker 5: So it will never happen. We're going to have a
Speaker 5: government owned the grocery store, one in each borough. We
Speaker 5: have sixteen thousand grocery stores. Five grocery stores. Are not
Speaker 5: going to make a difference. Free buses. It's not up
Speaker 5: to the mayor, it's up to the state. State said
Speaker 5: they're not going to do it. It's all bs, it's
Speaker 5: all campaign rhetoric. None of it will change anybody's life.
Speaker 2: Where was this For the past several months, Cuomo finding
Speaker 2: an ability to make the case against Mom Donnie. I
Speaker 2: get it, Hey, this is the final a day, the
Speaker 2: final hours, but wouldn't this have been helpful back during
Speaker 2: the primary. Wouldn't this have been helpful in the last
Speaker 2: several months. I just think if Mam Donnie wins, it's
Speaker 2: not only a credit to Mom Donnie's personal charisma and
Speaker 2: the fact that a lot of people want to believe
Speaker 2: in the tooth fairy, so to speak, but it's also
Speaker 2: a function of how poor of a job Andrew Cuomo
Speaker 2: has done defining the absurdity of the Mam Donnie campaign.
Speaker 1: Well, he has run a terrible campaign. I think there's
Speaker 1: even been some admission of that from the Cuomo side
Speaker 1: that he has not done. He has been not just inept,
Speaker 1: but lazy too. It's certainly in the primary, in the
Speaker 1: Democrat primary, he thought he was gonna walk away with this.
Speaker 1: We've seen this happen before New York. Remember AOC took
Speaker 1: out the number three Democrat in terms of House leadership.
Speaker 1: I forget the guy's name. That tellsy something, but he
Speaker 1: just figured I'm gonna win, didn't campaign, didn't show up,
Speaker 1: didn't care. And now we've got AOC running around saying
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Mom. Donnie was also something of a sleeper
Speaker 1: candidate here, at least in the primary, and when he
Speaker 1: took out Cuomo was because Cuomo was lazy and thought
Speaker 1: that he was kind of entitled to represent the Democrats
Speaker 1: in the city of New York. It's looking like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Mandani, but you know, Cuomo could pull something
Speaker 1: out here at the very end. Maybe that's my most
Speaker 1: hopeful note I can hit on this, and I'm not
Speaker 1: even very hopeful. Clay Homo's awful. I'm sorry. I know
Speaker 1: people want to believe that this would be some huge
Speaker 1: metaphorical bullet dodge by New York, and no, I think
Speaker 1: Womo is pretty terrible too, So even if he wins,
Speaker 1: we got problems in New York. We got problems.
Speaker 2: Also important to understand the way media is going to
Speaker 2: spin this. I'm looking at CNN right now. Their headline
Speaker 2: is voters deliver early report card on Trump presidency. Even
Speaker 2: though it's blue state Virginia, even though it's blue state
Speaker 2: New Jersey, even though it is deep blue New York City.
Speaker 2: They are going to argue if the results are Democrats win,
Speaker 2: as they are favored to win many of these races.
Speaker 2: They're going to argue that this is a massive repudiation
Speaker 2: of Trump and that Americans regret the decision that they
Speaker 2: made a year ago. Just prepare yourselves.
Speaker 1: People vote. Most people vote first and foremost based on
Speaker 1: how it makes them feel to cast that vote for
Speaker 1: that person, that party, that candidate. So if you can
Speaker 1: tap into frustration resentment. Some idea that this is an
Speaker 1: effort to check or veto or slow down the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: as absurd as that is, it's again the tooth fairy syndrome. Right,
Speaker 1: this does nothing. Having a communist mayor in New York
Speaker 1: does nothing to stop the Trump administration. Really, But if
Speaker 1: people feel like it does, you get mom, Donnie, we'll see.
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Speaker 2: Election Day twenty twenty five, I am in New York
Speaker 2: City where the mayoral decision is being made across the city.
Speaker 2: Potential record high turnout there across the river from New
Speaker 2: York City, New Jersey. And here's the truth. If Republicans
Speaker 2: show up in big numbers today in New Jersey, then
Speaker 2: Chitdarelli is going to win. If they do not, then
Speaker 2: he is going to lose. Because there's pretty reliable data
Speaker 2: out there, Buck, that shows that Democrats banked, as they
Speaker 2: often do, a substantial lead of around two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand votes. It appears headed into election day. So
Speaker 2: the question is, can Republicans in New Jersey get out
Speaker 2: to the polls and win election day and flip control
Speaker 2: of the state of New Jersey. In Virginia when some
Speaker 2: seers open no incumbent there but also lieutenant governor and
Speaker 2: attorney general races that are all super competitive down the ballot,
Speaker 2: as I mentioned the mayor's race in New York City,
Speaker 2: mayor's races in Minneapolis, I believe, Cincinnati, I believe Detroit,
Speaker 2: many of you across the country. The big Prop fifty
Speaker 2: decision on California, and the headline is going to be,
Speaker 2: if Democrats do well tonight, that this is a repudiation
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, even though that is not fair because
Speaker 2: Trump lost to Virginia by five and lost New Jersey
Speaker 2: by five, and these are both blue states, and certainly
Speaker 2: New York City is among the deepest blue cities anywhere
Speaker 2: in the country. But this is going to be seen
Speaker 2: in some ways as a verdict on the first ten
Speaker 2: months or so of Trump two point zero. You and
Speaker 2: I are happy. Most people out there listening to us
Speaker 2: right now are happy. And this is not the battleground
Speaker 2: states that will decide things in twenty twenty six or
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight necessarily, but that is where we are.
Speaker 2: They want to try to attack Trump, and they will
Speaker 2: use these results if they can to do so.
Speaker 1: This is going to seem like a minor thing to
Speaker 1: some of you. But I'm telling you it's not. When
Speaker 1: I go to New York, when I go to visit
Speaker 1: my family, I'll be up there for thanksgiving us to
Speaker 1: my family. The same thing I understand is true in
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Clay. I go in there and I buy
Speaker 1: some things in the store, you know, in the in
Speaker 1: the grocery store, and they give me a paper bag,
Speaker 1: and there's no option for a plastic bag. My understanding
Speaker 1: is that Jack Chitarelli is going to reverse the New
Speaker 1: Jersey ban on plastic on plastic grocery store bags. That'll
Speaker 1: for me, I would be a single issue voter. I'm
Speaker 1: here in Florida. They don't even charge me. They're giving
Speaker 1: out plastic bags left and right. And let me tell you,
Speaker 1: I use them for all kinds of things. And I
Speaker 1: can tell you I wrap my tennis sneakers in one
Speaker 1: of tho little plastic bags.
Speaker 2: So probably pick up dog poop in the plastic bag
Speaker 2: would be a good gig up dog poop in my pla.
Speaker 1: I am reusing and using the plastic bag all the time.
Speaker 1: The environmental data on non use of plastic bags is
Speaker 1: very clear. It's actually worse for the environment for a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of reasons, mostly because of paper is much heavier,
Speaker 1: requires more fossil fuels to be expended in transport, cannot
Speaker 1: be reused often breaks. People want double and triple bags.
Speaker 1: This is a point of idiocy and New Jerseyans, I
Speaker 1: know you've got housing costs and tax and crime and
Speaker 1: all these other issues, but you fundamentally cannot trust a
Speaker 1: politician who is in favor of banning plastic grocery bags.
Speaker 1: I'm in the land of plastic grocery bags here in Florida,
Speaker 1: thank you, Governor Ron DeSantis. I'm in the land of
Speaker 1: plastic bags. Paper bags are trash. They are as in
Speaker 1: they end up in the trash when they break, and
Speaker 1: my milk and my other things fall all over the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: Because a bunch of Libs want to believe there's somehow
Speaker 1: fighting climate change by using these things. They're wrong on
Speaker 1: the merits, They're wrong across the board. And I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I would be one a single issue voter for
Speaker 1: Jack Shudarelli on the plastic bag thing alone, and then
Speaker 1: you add all the other stuff. It's really straightforward. The
Speaker 1: Democrat there, Mikey Chryl she thinks that the fact that
Speaker 1: there are all these municipalities play New Jersey that have
Speaker 1: to have affordable housing. They call it affordable housing creation.
Speaker 1: This is not the way that the market should determine,
Speaker 1: you know, developers should say, hey, here's where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make housing. And here, you know, here's the cost of land,
Speaker 1: here's the cost of labor in this area. They have
Speaker 1: screwed up housing in New Jersey so much. It's so
Speaker 1: expensive to make it because of politicians, and the Democrat
Speaker 1: just wants to do more of that. And you've want
Speaker 1: Chittarelli wants to rewrite of it to say, look, we
Speaker 1: got to get rid of these stupid mandates and all
Speaker 1: of the intrusions into the housing market. That's complicated. Grocery
Speaker 1: bags not complicated, though, vote Chitarelli.
Speaker 2: It's also not complicated to say, if you want to
Speaker 2: have lower cost for rent, you need to have more
Speaker 2: rentable units. I know sometimes we try to overcomplicate things,
Speaker 2: but the number one way to drive down the price
Speaker 2: of something is to have more of it. That is
Speaker 2: the basic laws of economics. And so if you had
Speaker 2: way fewer illegal immigrants, people would have to pay way
Speaker 2: less for housing in the New York City area, and
Speaker 2: so the whole concept of freezing rent actually gets the
Speaker 2: incentive structure backwards, because what you need to do is
Speaker 2: encourage building and create far more rentable units and encourage
Speaker 2: the rehabilitation of some of the buildings that are otherwise
Speaker 2: not rentable right now. And when you freeze rent, you
Speaker 2: actually create an economic disincentive to increase the amount of
Speaker 2: available housing in Manhattan and the New York City area.
Speaker 2: So this is also basic that you know, the laws
Speaker 2: of economics do apply across party and across city and
Speaker 2: across state, whether they're blue or red. And the fact
Speaker 2: that we can't even have a real argument with mom
Speaker 2: Donnie where people point out this is first of all,
Speaker 2: his Cuomo said he doesn't even have the authority to
Speaker 2: do it. But if you truly desperately thought that rent
Speaker 2: was too high in New York City, what you should
Speaker 2: do is figure out a way to build as many
Speaker 2: new housing units as possible, which feels like very basic
Speaker 2: common sense to me, but it runs into oh, well,
Speaker 2: then we've got climate issues or it's so hard to
Speaker 2: get building permits, and so many of you out there
Speaker 2: are just fed up with this. Well, but who's going
Speaker 2: to do this. This is a huge thing in New
Speaker 2: York as well, So New York and New Jersey. This
Speaker 2: is the same problem played out in different locales. California
Speaker 2: had that really embarrassing even for California, embarrassing bureaucratic moment
Speaker 2: of the million dollar porta potty.
Speaker 1: You'll remember that. You know, how many of you live
Speaker 1: in a million dollar home right now? You know a
Speaker 1: good amount of you. But you know, the average American
Speaker 1: home right now is like four hundred grand or something.
Speaker 1: So a million dollar home is a nice home. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's an expensive depends on you know, in in Nebraska,
Speaker 1: it's a mansion. In Manhattan, it's a one bedroom apartment,
Speaker 1: but a million dollars it gets you some nice real
Speaker 1: estate play. They were going to build a solo porta
Speaker 1: potty basically like a glorified public bathroom for a million bucks.
Speaker 1: I think it was in San Francisco, but it was California.
Speaker 1: The state of California involved. And what that should be
Speaker 1: the signal to everybody this state is not going to
Speaker 1: do good things when it comes to building housing or
Speaker 1: even involving itself in this housing process. This plays out
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and you know, even in a
Speaker 1: place like I know a friend of mine's a landlord,
Speaker 1: like a kind of a you know, multi big, multi
Speaker 1: family landlord in DC, and he says that DC, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the big problems is with building new construction
Speaker 1: of DC for people to live in. You know, you'll
Speaker 1: never be able to evict anyone. Yeah, basically it's gonna
Speaker 1: be impossible. It'll cost you so much to evict people
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. That you end up paying them
Speaker 1: off to leave. Who wants to go through the headache
Speaker 1: of I'm gonna build a new eight unit you know,
Speaker 1: multifamily in northeast d C. And I'm gonna when half
Speaker 1: your tenants can say I'm not paying you anymore, and
Speaker 1: you end up paying them to leave after they've you know,
Speaker 1: screwed you out of eight months of rent, no doubt.
Speaker 2: And by the way, a couple of stories that are
Speaker 2: also out there. Let me build on this for a minute,
Speaker 2: buck La. A lot of you listening to us right
Speaker 2: now in LA are nodding along. They still haven't gotten
Speaker 2: the ability to rebuild the areas that were burned down
Speaker 2: in Wasson Anelus because getting building permits in Democrat run
Speaker 2: cities even for burned down homes is virtually impossible. And
Speaker 2: you know who knows this better than anybody, Trump who
Speaker 2: is a builder and is building a ballroom right now
Speaker 2: because he found out there weren't zoning restrictions in DC.
Speaker 2: Speaking of DC, buck all flights at Reagan National have
Speaker 2: been halted following a reported bomb threat on an arriving aircraft,
Speaker 2: and so the whole air traffic. Yesterday we talked about Houston.
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Speaker 2: We are joined now by our friend data guru, Ryan Gurdusky.
Speaker 2: He's a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network.
Speaker 2: And I know we're about halfway through the day right now, Ryan,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna lay out some things. You tell me
Speaker 2: if you would sign on to these and or what
Speaker 2: you are seeing U if Chitdarelli is gonna win in
Speaker 2: New Jersey, Republicans have to turn out in huge numbers
Speaker 2: today because he's down around two hundred and fifty or
Speaker 2: so thousand votes. It appears based on early voting and
Speaker 2: the mail ballots absentees, Virginia is looking bad for wins
Speaker 2: some seers, but Jason Mirerez, the Attorney general, is in
Speaker 2: a tight race and has a decent chance. Lieutenant governor
Speaker 2: is going to be competitive there, and it looks like
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie is going to win and potentially win with
Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of the vote. Do you sign
Speaker 2: on to any of those takes?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? How would you assess where we are now?
Speaker 8: You're pretty on the money, I mean what we new.
Speaker 8: Jersey's reporting county by county, so it's very difficult for
Speaker 8: me to get a real estimate. Remember Shita Rally only
Speaker 8: lost by eighty thousand votes in twenty twenty one. He
Speaker 8: lost election day Republican versus Democrat turnout, right, there were
Speaker 8: more Democrats turn on election day in twenty twenty one
Speaker 8: than Republicans, but he went independence by such a large
Speaker 8: margin it overwhelmed whatever Democrat turnout look like. He won
Speaker 8: election to buy a little over two hundred thousand votes.
Speaker 8: Right now, it's looking like one thing that's pretty surprising
Speaker 8: is how many people in Mikey Cheryl's district are voting
Speaker 8: for are voting right now? Is she is tremendous turnout
Speaker 8: out of her districts As of noon today, not all
Speaker 8: the counties are reporting. A lot of the big Republican
Speaker 8: counties have yet to report some of the miles some
Speaker 8: of the other big Republican counties have reported. But definitely
Speaker 8: Mikey Cheryl's district is definitely showing up in full force.
Speaker 8: Presumably for her. It's a pretty safe Democratic district over
Speaker 8: in Virginia. What I've sat there and seen right now is,
Speaker 8: you know, there's a Republican counties are kind of in
Speaker 8: a mix right now. There's kind of of Caroline County,
Speaker 8: Green County, Norden County which are doing fairly well of
Speaker 8: you know, they're coming up in pretty large numbers. But
Speaker 8: also at the same time, there's other super big Republican
Speaker 8: counties like Appomatox and Buchanan which are having horrendous turnouts.
Speaker 8: So Republicans are making up some of the best turnout
Speaker 8: counties and some of the worst at the same exact time.
Speaker 8: Places like Alexandria, f Fairfax, they are about fifty percent
Speaker 8: of their twenty twenty four election day as of right now,
Speaker 8: fifty five to sixty. New York City is going to
Speaker 8: have the largest turnout in the oral history. We're easily
Speaker 8: going to blow pass I think two million votes. And
Speaker 8: it's pretty safe to say largest election ever was in
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety one for nineteen eighty three rather four for Giuliani.
Speaker 8: This is that was one point eight million. This is
Speaker 8: going to be at least two million. Tremendously high turnouts
Speaker 8: in places like the Bronx, which had not voted at
Speaker 8: all on before election day, horrendous voting before election day,
Speaker 8: had tremendously high turnouts.
Speaker 1: So Ryan in the New York race, the thing that
Speaker 1: you hear about constantly from the mam Donni camp is
Speaker 1: just variations on cost of living and how Mam Donnie
Speaker 1: says he's going to bring those costs down. This is
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, like fairy tale stuff. But
Speaker 1: put that aside for a second. Is it a similar
Speaker 1: situation in New Jersey? What are the biggest things that
Speaker 1: are at issue that are actually moving mobilizing voters and
Speaker 1: that could make the difference here in turnout when you
Speaker 1: look at the issues between Cheryl and Chittarelli, Well.
Speaker 8: The biggest issue, and I cover this on the Numbers
Speaker 8: Game podcast for a whole episode, one of the biggest
Speaker 8: issues in both for Virginia and New Jersey or electric prices.
Speaker 8: Electric prices are through the roof. Two thirds of electric
Speaker 8: price increases, according to CNN, were because none that that's
Speaker 8: a reliable source. But two thirds of the increased costs
Speaker 8: was because.
Speaker 1: Of every time you mentioned CNN on our show, Ryan,
Speaker 1: we play a little boo in the podcast back.
Speaker 8: Well, I think the article was I think the article
Speaker 8: is a tremendous amount of the data centers and the
Speaker 8: data centers that are popping up everywhere and how the
Speaker 8: increased costs are coming in those in states like that.
Speaker 8: That's a big thing. What happened in New Jersey. What
Speaker 8: happened in Virginia is that Democrats are to nationalize it right,
Speaker 8: make the whole election about Donald Trump and say a
Speaker 8: vote for me is a vote against Trump. Even Jay
Speaker 8: Jones is doing that as attorney in the general general
Speaker 8: race is Trump all day, all night. Chittarelli has talked
Speaker 8: a lot about you know, cost of living, how they
Speaker 8: be effective an effective administrator? Uh that, I don't know
Speaker 8: what's what? What's moving numbers right now? Democrat numbers are
Speaker 8: fairly strong in a number of places. But numbers are strong,
Speaker 8: by the way, everywhere I'm looking at races across the country.
Speaker 8: There's an election in Miami going on right now. Democrat
Speaker 8: turnout is gigantic right now in Miami, the race elections
Speaker 8: in Pennsylvania. There's lines around the corner in Pittsburgh to
Speaker 8: go vote. This is This is a very this is
Speaker 8: probably one of the highest turnout elections and off off
Speaker 8: non primary, non non presidential, non midterm years probably.
Speaker 2: Ever, what's the impact, if anything, of Trump saying Cuomo
Speaker 2: should be your vote?
Speaker 1: U Slee?
Speaker 2: What can't win? He waited till the night before the election.
Speaker 2: There's been arguments that it actually helps Mom Donnie. At
Speaker 2: this point, does it have any impact and prediction from you?
Speaker 2: Do you think that Mom Donnie is likely to get
Speaker 2: over fifty percent, in which case all the talk about
Speaker 2: Sleeve versus Cuomo versus Eric Adams may not end up
Speaker 2: having mattered because he gets over half the vote, than
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how much split vote there was.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I it doesn't. It's not helpful for Trump to
Speaker 8: weigh in because he's so disliked by two thirds of
Speaker 8: New Yorkers, A thirty three percent love him or like him,
Speaker 8: and two thirds can stand him in New York. And
Speaker 8: I don't think that it's necessarily helpful Little Cuomo. I
Speaker 8: think Curtis Leewa could have done not only more for
Speaker 8: himself by by by a team Ampo Cuomo, but also
Speaker 8: helping the Republicans running down ballot in New York City,
Speaker 8: which is going to be tremendously important if Mundanni becomes
Speaker 8: mayor Kenny Whin. I listen, I can remember fifty percent.
Speaker 8: I don't know, and I don't like to predict that.
Speaker 8: I don't like to make predictions. I know I can't
Speaker 8: come true on but here's I'll sit there and say
Speaker 8: you know who's looking at this election more than anybody
Speaker 8: is AOC, because everyone kind of sat there and said,
Speaker 8: Mandannie has a ceiling. Mandannie has a ceiling. He got
Speaker 8: so in so many votes in the primary. He can't
Speaker 8: possibly get more than a million votes in a two
Speaker 8: million person election in the general. If there's no ceiling
Speaker 8: on socialism, AOC is going to look at that and say, Okay,
Speaker 8: it's my time to shine. I'm running for president. And
Speaker 8: it's not a joke when you say I mean, yes,
Speaker 8: New York City is not reflective the entire country, but
Speaker 8: there's a big chunk of that base. And the Democratic
Speaker 8: primary sits there and says, no, there's no cap on socialism.
Speaker 8: Let's go go completely full fledge on this, and then
Speaker 8: it's just a race to the left of who can
Speaker 8: get there first, especially in economic issues.
Speaker 1: Ryan. On the Virginia side of things, it's not looking
Speaker 1: good from everything that we've seen, and we talked to
Speaker 1: you about this in the in the early voting stage
Speaker 1: a bit win some sears was this just not a
Speaker 1: race she could win because of the political realities of
Speaker 1: the state of Virginia right now and the enormous weight
Speaker 1: that really the suburbs of d which is what like
Speaker 1: Fairfax County and uh Nova, all those different areas of it. Basically,
Speaker 1: was this not her fault or I don't remember a
Speaker 1: single thing coming from her side of the campaign. Plenty
Speaker 1: of things coming from the Spamburger that I didn't like,
Speaker 1: but I was certainly hearing about. But win some serious.
Speaker 1: I didn't even hear what she was standing for.
Speaker 8: She said one thing and one thing only, I will
Speaker 8: stop transgender bathrooms from happening in Virginia issues out of
Speaker 8: every single day, that was the only sue she ran on. Look,
Speaker 8: I'm not here to trash someone who's still the votes
Speaker 8: are still has to be counted, so I'll say, so
Speaker 8: win some sears. She's doing significantly worse than both the
Speaker 8: candid for lieutenant governor and AG and even before the scandal,
Speaker 8: she was doing worse than the AG can. It's not
Speaker 8: only she's an unknown persons a lieutenant, she's a lieutenant
Speaker 8: governor currently. She raised a ton of money. She wasn't
Speaker 8: starving for cash. She ran on only one issue, which
Speaker 8: was transgender stuff. And I'm not saying it's not great
Speaker 8: for Republicans. It is a it's a winning issue.
Speaker 1: She need, She needed more than that. It sounds like,
Speaker 1: assuming that the polls are accurate so far, that that
Speaker 1: alone is not going to propel her to the governor's mansion.
Speaker 8: It's just not the most important. It was the only
Speaker 8: thing she talked about. She didn't talk about anything. And
Speaker 8: then when she was asked about specifically data centers because
Speaker 8: electricity prices are increasing throughout Virginia, she sat there and said, well,
Speaker 8: they're here to stay, and I'm building more of them.
Speaker 8: And it was very, very very unpopular. She just is,
Speaker 8: She's she ran. She her original campaign team was had
Speaker 8: a lot to be desired.
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of.
Speaker 8: People running down Ballad. They did not like what she
Speaker 8: was doing. And she's not just losing today like the
Speaker 8: lieutenant governor. She is just a generic Republican. No one
Speaker 8: really knows a lot about it. He had no money.
Speaker 8: She's losing worse than him, and it's it says a
Speaker 8: lot more about her. It's a bed year. It's a
Speaker 8: bed year. You lose, you lose. But when you're losing
Speaker 8: worse than somebody with no money, no name ID, and
Speaker 8: that's just a generic Republican, that's probably That's pretty much on.
Speaker 2: You, Okay, to what extent do you believe there is
Speaker 2: any pictive value in these elections as we look toward
Speaker 2: next year's elections, which have far more consequential stakes.
Speaker 8: I think that it looks like Democrats are voting like
Speaker 8: it's a presidential election. I mean, that's just the truth
Speaker 8: of it. They are voting in early elections and presidentials.
Speaker 8: Some of these counties I'm looking at in New Jersey
Speaker 8: where it was five to one in twenty twenty Blue
Speaker 8: counties five to one Democrat in twenty twenty one, it's
Speaker 8: looking like eight or nine to one Democrat right now.
Speaker 8: Just Democrat turnout is through the roof in some of
Speaker 8: these places, especially as white college educated areas, and they
Speaker 8: are voting like at the presidential election. And Republicans really
Speaker 8: need to wake up if they think, even with all
Speaker 8: this gerryman and that they're doing and things that are
Speaker 8: work in their favor, if they think they can win
Speaker 8: on that alone, they cannot. When it comes to this
Speaker 8: kind of turnout. The turnout is immense, and Republicans need
Speaker 8: to match it in a significant way and really need
Speaker 8: to have answers on certain things in the econmomnis, I
Speaker 8: think are really pressing people's questions on quality of.
Speaker 1: Life, Sony, last minute thoughts for how you think New
Speaker 1: York is going to go specifically Ryan as their votes
Speaker 1: are coming in right now, is a Cuomo This is
Speaker 1: really what I'm leaning forward. Is a last minute Cuomo
Speaker 1: miracle in the cards? Or have you already written this off?
Speaker 8: I mean, listen, I'm not writing anything off. I just
Speaker 8: sit there and say this. Cuomo needed to do one
Speaker 8: major thing give Republicans a reason to vote for him,
Speaker 8: and he never did. And that is Cuomo's biggest mistake
Speaker 8: in this general election. In the primary, he didn't do
Speaker 8: anything right. But in the general he needed the hundreds
Speaker 8: of thousands of Trump voters in the City of New
Speaker 8: York who could sit there in football election to say say,
Speaker 8: I'm going to vote for Cuomo because he's going to
Speaker 8: do X, Y and Z. He's going to support the
Speaker 8: problem solver, the common Sense Caucus, which is Republicans and
Speaker 8: Democrats in the City Council. I'm going to do this
Speaker 8: on crime, I apologize for COVID, I apologize for Bell Reform.
Speaker 8: I'm going to be the guy for everybody now. I'm
Speaker 8: going to rise above this. And he never did. He
Speaker 8: only stuck to you know, democratic politican and it makes me.
Speaker 1: Think, maybe is he just kind of a buffoon. I'm
Speaker 1: shocked at how in ft he has been Ryan honestly,
Speaker 1: like for a guy who was the governor. It's it's
Speaker 1: like he and you know, he's like the uh, who's
Speaker 1: the who's the little blonde haired sort of an idiot
Speaker 1: king in the beginning of Jeffrey Thrones Jeoffrey. He's like
Speaker 1: a like a little Italian version of Jeffrey.
Speaker 2: Also, by the way, but also mom, Donnie has so
Speaker 2: many vulnerabilities, Like it's not as if he's got a
Speaker 2: you know, like coat of armor on uh. To bucks point,
Speaker 2: it just feels like a super incompetent campaign.
Speaker 8: It's super incompetent. And you know, I had a dinner
Speaker 8: with one of I never said the same. I had
Speaker 8: a dinner with one of Clomo's advisors and we're sitting
Speaker 8: there and you know, I run the seventeen seventies of
Speaker 8: Project Pack and we're doing well, we have got some money,
Speaker 8: and he said, would your pack donate one hundred grand
Speaker 8: to the Cuomo campaign. I go, you're known to have
Speaker 8: a money problem. You have a candidate problem. All the
Speaker 8: money in the world's not going to fix that. I
Speaker 8: give Republicans a reason to vote for you, and they
Speaker 8: just wouldn't. And you know, I looked at his entire
Speaker 8: electoral history. He never had a competitive primary one time
Speaker 8: in his entire life. He never had a competitive general
Speaker 8: one time his entire life. And I think that that's
Speaker 8: probably speaks it's amazing.
Speaker 1: He's just not a good He's just not a good politician,
Speaker 1: is actually what has been exposed in all this meaning
Speaker 1: he's not even good at pretending to be good at things.
Speaker 1: So that's that's disconcerted. But yeah, all right, Ryan or
Speaker 1: Dusky everybody.
Speaker 8: I'm more like, we're gonna blow past the twenty I
Speaker 8: mean we might hit twenty twenty four general election numbers.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, So that's crazy time, not wild nut,
Speaker 1: go go go check out everybody. It's a numbers game.
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Speaker 1: because we've got the New York City mayor's election, the
Speaker 1: governor's races in Virginia and New Jersey. Go vote, go vote.
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Speaker 1: California where Gavin newsom so much of this is it's interesting,
Speaker 1: It's just it's just tapping into Democrat frustration. I think
Speaker 1: that's true in all of these races. It's certainly true Virginia,
Speaker 1: New York, in California and New Jersey where Democrats feel
Speaker 1: like their party has been because it has been outplayed
Speaker 1: by Trump and the Republicans. They're losing and losing and
Speaker 1: losing again this year in their opposition to Trump and
Speaker 1: their opposition to his agenda. So this is just an
Speaker 1: opportunity to vent their spleen a bit with a vote
Speaker 1: against whatever the Republican option is. I don't think it
Speaker 1: really even gets in for most people. I don't think
Speaker 1: it real even gets into what they think is going
Speaker 1: to happen here because cost of living is such a
Speaker 1: big thing in New York, in California and Virginia too,
Speaker 1: especially if you get closer to DC, and Democrats will
Speaker 1: make it worse. Guaranteed they will make it worse because
Speaker 1: even what they do to make it seem like it
Speaker 1: might improve in the short term is to just squeeze
Speaker 1: the balloon at one side, right, distribute the wealth to
Speaker 1: find some way to subsist. And we see this with
Speaker 1: Obamacare which I still wish people would pay more attention
Speaker 1: to this play. We're still in a shutdown everybody, which
Speaker 1: is gonna end after the election. All ties in the
Speaker 1: might add right Democrats government shut down, getting people frustrated,
Speaker 1: making people think, oh, the Democrats are standing up, they're fighting. Well,
Speaker 1: what are they fighting for? Exactly? Like, how are they
Speaker 1: making anyone's life better?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 1: Forget about that. They're fighting. Its emotional manipulation in place
Speaker 1: of an argument. It's very effective, unfortunately in mass psychology
Speaker 1: and mass politics. But the Democrat offerings on all this stuff,
Speaker 1: like Obamacare specifically, is to ignore market reality and to
Speaker 1: make promises that they can't keep. And you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot more of that. Gavin Newsome. Meanwhile, I didn't
Speaker 1: get to yesterday, Clay. I meant, this is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a pickup because I'm about talk about public safety.
Speaker 1: We talked about DC in the crime situation there and
Speaker 1: how who was it? It was. Nora O'Donnell was like, well,
Speaker 1: I just go to work and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's safe on the streets because she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: admit it on camera that Trump is right the murder rate.
Speaker 1: Since Trump has tried to do. His security plan in
Speaker 1: DC is down sixty percent okay, six zero percent, dropping
Speaker 1: the murder rate, and all crime is down substantially almost
Speaker 1: thirty percent I think in DC year to date, with
Speaker 1: a big chunk of that coming since Trump. So it
Speaker 1: is working. It's not perfect, but it's working. No one
Speaker 1: thought it would be perfect, meaning that there'd be no
Speaker 1: murders or no crime, but it's substantially improving the situation. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you know what Gavin Newsom's worried about, not whether people
Speaker 1: feel safe on the streets or they're going to be
Speaker 1: harassed by some maniac, but of course immigration play nineteen.
Speaker 9: People are on edge, communities of color on edge. I
Speaker 9: mean folks scared to death to go out trick or
Speaker 9: treaty the other night, Scared to walk their dogs, go
Speaker 9: to a playground, go to a park, go to a
Speaker 9: loved one's funeral, because they might be disappeared on the
Speaker 9: basis of what they look like, where they congregate, the
Speaker 9: language they speak. In the United States of America today,
Speaker 9: you've heard notion of a private police force that appears
Speaker 9: to have taken oath office to the President of the
Speaker 9: United States, not to the United States Constitution.
Speaker 1: All just just hyperbolic, fear mongering blather. Are they illegals?
Speaker 1: And also this notion they're being disappeared. They're not being disappeared.
Speaker 1: They're being detained, processed, and returned to their country three
Speaker 1: flight back to where they actually should be. I think
Speaker 1: we just have to prepare for this. I would. I
Speaker 1: know it's still a.
Speaker 2: Year away from the mid terms, and I know we're
Speaker 2: not going to start the twenty twenty eight presidential cycle
Speaker 2: until January.
Speaker 1: It's going to be Newsome. It's going to be Newsome.
Speaker 2: It's going to be Newsome, and he's gonna lie blatantly
Speaker 2: like this. Do we still have Gavin Newsom? I don't
Speaker 2: think we played it yesterday, but we play Newsom saying
Speaker 2: the one let's make you can grab that. I think
Speaker 2: we had it yesterday, but when Newsom said, it went megaviral.
Speaker 1: I hate when politicians.
Speaker 2: Lie, you know, and he's like moving his hands and
Speaker 2: moving his face awkwardly, and it's just so diabolically sinister,
Speaker 2: because I don't know that anybody lies more than Newsome.
Speaker 2: And by the way, there's a difference between getting a
Speaker 2: factor too wrong in sort of hyperbole and blatantly lying,
Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom is just such a blatant liar. And
Speaker 2: the reality is, I think you have to have a
Speaker 2: blatant liar on the ticket because Democrats are wrong about everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, they really are by and large. It used
Speaker 2: to be you could be a reasonable person and you
Speaker 2: could look at the two parties and you could say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, I disagree with my party on this
Speaker 2: perspective or this issue, even though I might vote the
Speaker 2: other way. I can't even think of what Democrats are.
Speaker 2: It used to be Democrats would say, hey, we know healthcare.
Speaker 2: They're destroying everything having.
Speaker 1: To do with insurance. Nobody can't even afford healthcare anymore.
Speaker 1: If you are looking for something that Republicans and this
Speaker 1: could have tie in to another news item that Republicans
Speaker 1: I think look back on and say, Okay, we actually
Speaker 1: got that one wrong. I think it's the Iraq War
Speaker 1: as a party, which Trump among others have said that
Speaker 1: was the we were on the wrong side. We weren't
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of Afghanistan a post nine eleven,
Speaker 1: but the Iraq War thing. But the thing about the
Speaker 1: Republicans there is Democrat establishment went along with it too. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton all that, you know, the Schumer, all
Speaker 1: the Democrats were in favor of it as well, but
Speaker 1: it was the charge was led by a Republican administration,
Speaker 1: to be fair, and that included Dick Cheney, who just
Speaker 1: passed away. And we haven't mentioned this, but Dick Cheney
Speaker 1: just five what is the eighty four? I think he
Speaker 1: just died in early this morning, early morning, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours he passed away. I remember meeting
Speaker 1: the Vice President on several occasions when he was the
Speaker 1: Vice President in the Oval Office, and I will tell you, Clay,
Speaker 1: it was we had multiple wars going on. A very
Speaker 1: different Oval Office experience as a young CIA analyst briefing
Speaker 1: then Vice President Cheney than what we got when Clay
Speaker 1: and Bucks show up to hang out with Trump in
Speaker 1: the Oval. I mean just night. And it didn't even
Speaker 1: feel like the same movie set, the same universe. It's
Speaker 1: just a totally different feeling. There was an intensity and
Speaker 1: a solemnity under those Bush years because of nine to
Speaker 1: eleven and everything else. And you walked in there and
Speaker 1: you made sure your jacket and tye were crisp, and
Speaker 1: it was yes, mister President, nos President, you know we
Speaker 1: went in there and saw Trump. But he's like, we
Speaker 1: got the owner of the Saints, come on in here,
Speaker 1: we got JD, we got you know.
Speaker 2: It was it was like, we will check out the
Speaker 2: new guilt that I put in the you know, cabinet
Speaker 2: was showing us cool stuff.
Speaker 1: He's like, isn't a beautiful look at this painting? Redid
Speaker 1: this painting? Beautiful painting. It was just a very different feeling.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, Dick Cheney passed away. He became very controversial,
Speaker 1: I think more controversial actually in some ways after he
Speaker 1: left office, with the legacy of the Iraq War. And also,
Speaker 1: to be fair, he and his daughter refuse endorsing Kamala
Speaker 1: over Trump in the twenty twenty. I knew his daughter did.
Speaker 1: I actually forgot that he did until you just mentioned
Speaker 1: that to me now, which is insane. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: personal bitterness overriding political. Look, I think he just passed away.
Speaker 1: And I know we're not supposed to speak ill of
Speaker 1: the dead. I'm not going to. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: speak ill of someone who just passed away. I think
Speaker 1: Dick Cheney was a patriot. I think he loved his country,
Speaker 1: and I think he did what he thought was best
Speaker 1: for the country. And I think a lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff that was used to attack him about how it
Speaker 1: was like he was enriching him that actually wasn't And
Speaker 1: even the unitary.
Speaker 2: Chief Executive attacks on Dick Cheney, I mean, those are
Speaker 2: he believed that the president had the authority to make
Speaker 2: important decisions.
Speaker 1: I was in the Oval office, and I could tell
Speaker 1: you that the vice press watching them make decisions and
Speaker 1: discuss at various points, and the vice president was deferential
Speaker 1: to George W. Bush as president, this notion that he
Speaker 1: was the puppet master and buch Bush the media this
Speaker 1: because they could get away with this class I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to get diverted. And now we got election day here,
Speaker 1: but I think the media lied to people so much
Speaker 1: about George W. Bush that they have this complete They weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, because of Trump and the way he did
Speaker 1: things by going right to them and bypassing the media.
Speaker 1: People's conception of who George W. Bush is a lot
Speaker 1: of just every day America is a complete caricature. The
Speaker 1: guy was not dumb, the guy was not shy about
Speaker 1: leadership and making decisions, and was actually very on. He
Speaker 1: wasn't a scholar of Middle Eastern history. You know, but
Speaker 1: guess what neither is Kamala or Biden or any of them. Right,
Speaker 1: But the notion that he was some sort of buffoon
Speaker 1: and was bumbling in an idiot is absurd, not true
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: And not only that, I mean, it's it's funny. They
Speaker 2: remember early in Trump two point zero, it didn't work
Speaker 2: because it's Trump. You can't call somebody a dictator and
Speaker 2: then be like they tried to say that Trump wasn't president.
Speaker 2: Remember they tried to say president elon. They tried to
Speaker 2: demean the person in the chief executive office, the president
Speaker 2: of the United States. And so the argument when Bush
Speaker 2: was there was o' cheney's the actual president. They tried
Speaker 2: to argue, Oh, Trump's there, Elon's the president.
Speaker 1: You ever hear.
Speaker 2: Anybody argue that Obama wasn't the president when Obama was
Speaker 2: in office. You ever hear anybody argue Clinton wasn't the
Speaker 2: president when Clinton was in office, whatever you thought of
Speaker 2: their vice president. Now, to be fair, during Biden, people
Speaker 2: may have accurately said it's actually Obama who's still president.
Speaker 2: To be fair, during Clinton, there may have been moments
Speaker 2: where he was busy otherwise occupied, not really indisposed of
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 1: Indisposed would be one thing you could say about Phil Clinton.
Speaker 1: But I think so chan Cheney passed away. The guy.
Speaker 1: He did have a remarkable career, and I do think
Speaker 1: I think the best thing that can be said for him,
Speaker 1: or the things that can be said for m is
Speaker 1: he loved his country and he tried, but he was
Speaker 1: wrong on some big stuff, and unfortunately he got particularly
Speaker 1: wrong toward the end about about Trump and the and
Speaker 1: the you know, the the trajectory of the contry, I think,
Speaker 1: and I think it was personal because of the repudiation
Speaker 1: of bush Cheney by Trump. I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: He was. People are gonna get mad at me there
Speaker 1: because he's a warmonger. I'm trying to think I just died.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be charitably. He served his country for many,
Speaker 1: many years, and I think he loved America. He was
Speaker 1: willing to go to the mat against the Jihatis, I
Speaker 1: will tell you that, and we needed people that were
Speaker 1: going to go to the mat.
Speaker 2: You can love your country and make awful decisions. Correct,
Speaker 2: those aren't opposite things.
Speaker 1: And I think that the people always throw Nevill Chamberlain
Speaker 1: under the bus. Yeah, was he wrong about how things
Speaker 1: will go with the Nazis, Sure, but people forget that
Speaker 1: World War One had just destroyed an entire generation of Europe,
Speaker 1: including Englishmen and people from the United Kingdom, and he
Speaker 1: was hoping we wouldn't have to do that again. Right.
Speaker 1: He may have had the wrong remedy, but he didn't
Speaker 1: want to go to war. I mean, this reasonable thing.
Speaker 2: To do, and to be fair, I read the oral
Speaker 2: history recently, in the last year or so of nine
Speaker 2: to eleven because I wanted to re experience that. Remember,
Speaker 2: they thought the White House was going to get hit
Speaker 2: and Cheney was underground monitoring nine to eleven while Bush
Speaker 2: was up in Air Force one and nobody could get
Speaker 2: in touch.
Speaker 1: With him because they were trying to keep him safe.
Speaker 1: People forget this because they always think now of ksm
Speaker 1: Khaleiche Sheik Mohammad in is like you know, pulled t
Speaker 1: shirt and getting arrested and all this stuff. They were
Speaker 1: planning multiple nine elevens, and that's real, That is fact.
Speaker 1: They were going to keep coming at us with all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. The War on Terror was absolutely necessary,
Speaker 1: and those of you who thought it should always remember
Speaker 1: that and always feel honored in your service for the
Speaker 1: fact that they were coming for us. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. There was more after that, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the fight against the It was a perfect,
Speaker 1: no war. The fight is never going to be perfect,
Speaker 1: but it was a necessary one. It was Iraq that
Speaker 1: was the expansion of it that I think was a
Speaker 1: strategic miscalculation. But I don't think the people that said,
Speaker 1: I mean, I got hit with this. Even a while back,
Speaker 1: was on a podcast, people said, oh, it was also
Speaker 1: Cheney could make money through Haliburton. That's actually not that's
Speaker 1: actually not true. Yeah, you can say that he was
Speaker 1: a warmonger and he made the wrong decision and it
Speaker 1: was terrible, but he actually didn't do this to make
Speaker 1: money through Haliburton for himself. And I just I like
Speaker 1: the criticisms to be rooted in reality.
Speaker 2: One thing that stood out to me is I reread
Speaker 2: to experience the history of nine to eleven. That is
Speaker 2: really kind of crazy to think about. Is there was
Speaker 2: almost no communication to the president because Air Force One
Speaker 2: wasn't able to get telephone signals. They weren't able. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the internet was not in place. They've got spotty every
Speaker 2: now and then television. So Cheney had to manage much
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven because the president, they were afraid
Speaker 2: of where the next might be. He was just up
Speaker 2: in the air. They didn't have any idea. And so
Speaker 2: I would encourage you to go back and do some
Speaker 2: reading about that day.
Speaker 1: They could have had fifty planes hijacked, given how easy
Speaker 1: it was to hijack the ones that they did, they
Speaker 1: could have had fifty of those planes turned into essentially
Speaker 1: massive guided missiles with hundreds of innocents aboard. We had,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's crazy to think about the
Speaker 1: worst terrorist attack ever in history, and it actually could
Speaker 1: have been a lot worse. Yes, yes, and it would,
Speaker 1: by the way, it would have been worse if not
Speaker 1: for those those brave souls.
Speaker 2: Fill Pennsylvania on United. That's exactly right. Let's roll. If
Speaker 2: that beamer I believe was a top Memen I think
Speaker 2: or is a beaman?
Speaker 1: Beam may be right. If it's not, it's not for him.
Speaker 1: And saying let's roll that plane ends up, we have
Speaker 1: a smoldering United States Capital or White House. Everybody, that's
Speaker 1: how close you were?
Speaker 2: United Flight ninety three. I think to if I'm getting
Speaker 2: remembering that.
Speaker 1: But to be you know, to be fair to Cheney's memory,
Speaker 1: we needed a wartime consolieri, so to speak. After nine
Speaker 1: to eleven. I'm not saying that everything was good or right,
Speaker 1: but I mean the guy, the guy did step up,
Speaker 1: and a lot of bad guys needed to be taken
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