WEBVTT - Diamonds Aren't Forever: Henri Lemoine 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.880 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.080 How are you ah doing well? How about you? I'm 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:09.840 really good, look well rested? 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:11.560 Thank you. I'm not, but I'm good. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:12.520 You're faking it? Well? 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.600 Yeah, how are you? Have you? Have you been sleeping? 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:14.920 No? 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.840 I gave that it's not it's not fashion. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.640 I gave it up for lent and just kept on rolling. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.360 Can never look back. Uh, do you know what's ridiculous 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:23.759 I do? 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.000 Friend of the show, Billy Idol, Yeah, you know you've 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:28.160 discovered him, right? 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:28.400 Yeah? 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.400 Yeah, Well recently, just this year, he found out that 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.640 he went through one of life's great transitions of menopause 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.040 no becoming a father for the third time. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:39.839 He rocked the Cradle of Love totally. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.280 The sixty nine year old was not shocked to learn 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.280 that he had a secret son named Brandt, because Billy 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.400 Idols said, quote, He's had sex with millions of people. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.040 Who brand title. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.120 He also admitted that this is what I love is. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.600 He threw in all of his colleagues in the rock world. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.880 He's like, well, a lot of us probably of likely 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.039 fathered children outside of our usual relationships. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.000 So did he do a roll call of most likely suspects. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:07.319 No. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.840 I wish he did, but he did say. The more 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.959 I thought about it, I guess there must be something 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.520 like that about learning about his child, something like that. Oh, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.240 because quote, we were just going around in the eighties 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.480 and seventies just having knockdown, drag out sex with a 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:22.120 million people. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:22.759 You didn't know. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.520 The first thing I like is he does eighties, then seventies, 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.480 he goes backwards in time. And then also I like 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.640 that knockdown drag out sex. You don't think sex is 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.720 not followed knockdown drag out, Like, Billy, do you understand 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:34.240 what sex is? 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.320 You know what? He's the original route. 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.759 Dude, dude, he is so ridiculous. He's front of the show. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.160 Shout out it is. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.440 That is ridiculous. And do you want to know what 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:43.440 else is ridiculous? 0:01:43.480 --> 0:02:28.720 These naked scamming Oh. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:02:11.480 Oh, this here is a ridiculous crime. A podcast about 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:16.280 absurd and outrageous capers, heist cons It's always ninety nine 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.560 percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:20.800 You damn right. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.000 I am so damn right. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:22.760 Look at you over there. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.000 I think I've mentioned this to you before, but I 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.359 have a friend in the diamond business. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:28.320 That's right. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.480 You know him, Paul from the Dims exactly. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.680 I've talked a lot on You told me that every 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.160 kiss begins with K. I will never forget that. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:41.600 And you know what he went to, Jared. I've talked 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.280 a lot on here about stolen gems. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:44.359 Yes, you have. You love them? 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:44.640 I do. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.839 They're light and portable, yeah, very very valuable. So it's 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:48.760 like the perfect target. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.600 I've heard this from my friends who sell drugs, not to. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.400 Victim blank, yeah you know, but it's perfect target. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:54.280 They're better than cash. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.200 It's so glamorous to steal diamonds, like you don't steal 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.679 them and then sell them out of the back of 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.480 a van and in a gas station parking lot. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.520 No go to downtown LA to the diamond districy. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.000 You jet off to Antwerp with the diamonds in like 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.000 a velvet lined briefcase and you wear you're wearing a 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.440 sharp suit while you do it. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:11.040 Love that. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.480 Then you stay in a high end hotel and you 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.519 have to go to Paris to meet up with another 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.000 fence and you take a chauffeur Benz to like a 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.160 gretty warehouse outside of town. You meet up with another 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:23.160 well dressed crook. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.280 I got to get back in the gym. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.040 You do, and then the deal's done. You go to 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.960 London sip a cocktail while staring out the window of 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.120 a penthouse hotel room that overlooks the Tens. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.200 This is like a James Bond movie. But let people up, that's. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.120 What it seems like. Diamond theft is like based on 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.040 movies or like crap TV shows. All right, one would think, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.800 But there's another side of diamond crimes. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.120 There are you about open my eyes? 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.640 I'm so about to open your eyes. But I've told 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.800 you this kind of thing before. This is true a 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:54.080 diamond hoax. So yeah, remember those dudes that scattered the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.600 gems in the high desert, which there were cut gems, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.280 by the way, which is my favorite part. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.960 It's like, oh look, major cut these perfectly. They're ready 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:03.560 for the market. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.120 So the diamonds aren't stolen, but they're part of a con. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.760 It's an accessory. And that's exactly the type of crime 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.240 I want to tell you about today. It's a kN 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:19.159 a glorious con and it all centers around Alri Numouan. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.320 If you say so, yeah, how do I spell that 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.800 with a lemon? Okay, perfect. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.960 I don't have a date of birth for this guy, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.760 but I'd estimate it to be in the late mid 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.120 to late eighteen hundreds. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.920 Oh wow, yeah, okay. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:37.760 Maybe eighteen sixties, eighteen seventies earlier. His dad was French 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.400 consul in Trieste, Italy. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.880 No good place to be a French console, right. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.200 And that's where he met Ari's mom, and he eventually 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.080 moved back to France, to the foothills of the Pyrenees near. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:49.080 Tar Okay down south. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:49.920 Yeah yeah, and they. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.480 Had little Alri. His dad out of the Foreign service, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.920 got a job managing a marble works. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.720 Oh seems like a step. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:03.160 Down, but maybe not. What did little Unri like to 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.680 do as a boy in the Oxtania region? 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:07.640 What did he like to do? 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.279 Elizabeth, Well zarn. He would hop on an ox and 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.920 teartail all over town at ox an ox like, ye. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.560 Haw, that's a big slow animal the. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:27.039 French, yeah souchon. And so this led him though. He 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.560 wound up serving on the cavalry on horseback. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:30.280 Oh good. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.719 Yeah, and he was like an amateur bullfighter. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.080 Oh heck, yeah, he knows ox. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.080 And he became an adventure guy basically totally all about 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.960 the feats of daring do, and he went like where 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.560 the adventure took him. So he traveled all over Europe, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.760 South Africa, the US of A. And according to an 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:53.240 article from the International Gemalogical Institute, quote at fifteen, he 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:57.480 was already selling shares in non existent companies. Thrown out 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.080 of his parents' house, he frequented the arcades and repeatedly 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.520 abused the gullibility of tourists. He exercised at fairs with 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.640 a certain talent, the trade of illusionist. So he was 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:15.640 a magician, yeah, Alrilemoir, Yes, teen illusionist. This fall on CBS, 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.720 and this comes on right after Watson, which Paramount plus 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.800 seems determined to meet me. Watch but you know what, 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.080 I'd do what I want Zane. So it was around 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.080 eighteen ninety eight that he got bored of being like 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.760 the nineteenth century version of selling NFTs and he found 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.640 a new love, which is diamonds. Diamonds were Ari's best friend. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:36.880 They are forever right. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.839 And so it was eighteen ninety eight that he met 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:44.040 Maurice Coklan, an engineer, and his story of their early 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.599 partnership was detailed in The New York Times a decade 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.080 later he said that Ari quote was employed as a 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:55.480 canvasser for an advertising firm. One talked very glibly, announced 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.760 that he too was a student of chemistry, and offered 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.039 to ally himself with the engineer. Succeeded, said the engineer 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.000 in obtaining the brutal powder, which, while it was harder 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.760 than Ruby's, was without the hardness of diamonds. 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:08.160 Hmm. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.560 You know, every con man has a half truth. Yes, 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.520 so he's like someone who once bought a chemistry set 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.200 from a toy store and these all of a sudden, 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.800 he's bill ny. But people of the time like he's 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.360 talking about the birth of lab grown diamonds. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:23.880 All right. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.560 Yes, So that same engineer, very soon after he said that, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.320 he you know, he told that he was positive that 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.000 Ari was making actual, real diamonds thanks to this formula 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.520 he'd come up. Okay, so I should say here that 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:42.080 scientists in the late nineteenth century were obsessed with making diamonds. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.160 The scientific alchemy. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.880 Yes, yes, So the big dog of that was another Ari. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.360 Ari Mois Sommes. He was a French chemist best known 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.920 for two groundbreaking achievements. His first was the invention of 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.360 the electric arc furnace. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.600 Oh wow, yeah, and then. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.920 That was around eighteen ninety two check, and it could 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.120 get up to like thirty five hundred degrees celsius. So 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.720 this allowed people Hymns, particularly to study materials under conditions 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.080 that weren't previously possible completely, including experiments with the synthesis 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.920 of diamonds. He also discovered fluorine. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:19.400 Oh yeah, and that. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.960 Got him the nineteen oh six Nobel Prize in chemistry. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.520 Whoa big dog, Madam Carrie. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.480 Yeah, exactly. So back to his diamonds, though he didn't 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.880 make gem quality synthetic diamonds, but he was the pioneer 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:36.040 who first tried systematically using high heat and pressure to 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.600 crystallize carbon, and then that directly influenced the eventual success 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.880 of lab grown diamonds decades later. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.320 Okay, but was he making like essentially like almost like 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.480 industrial level diamonds. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.320 Yeah, yeah, And so by at this time, like scientists 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.600 are fascinated by diamond structure and they're like suspecting that 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.000 it's made of pure carbon and that figuring like if 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.160 it's under the right pressure and temperature, you know, you 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.240 could create this. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.640 Artificial Roman could do it in the palm of his hands. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.960 Temperature heat there it is so son like his invention 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.120 of this arc furnace gave exactly the tool to test 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.040 the idea. He mixed carbons so like charcoal or sugar 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.080 carbon with iron in his arc furnace. He melted the 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.280 mixture at the super high heat, then rapidly cooled it, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.840 and then his theory was that the carbon dissolving in 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.920 molten iron under high temperature and the rapid cooling that 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.880 would be that sudden contraction. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.840 Yeah, like a distillation processor, they separate and then yeah. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.120 So instead of the enormous pressure of the Earth on it. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.120 He's replicating that, really love this. And he reported that 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.679 he produced tiny crystals embedded in the iron globules, and 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.720 the crystals were so like microscopic, but he's like, they're 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:51.680 diamonds when you look at the microscape, the structure of it, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.840 and like later you know, when people analyzed it, some 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.920 of them were diamond like carbon structure quite perfect, yeah, 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.160 and so the others like carbon phases, so it hadn't 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.080 gone there yet carbides yeah, and so but here's why 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.480 we have moisenite. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.240 Yes, I was wondering almost diamond. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.440 Yeah, And so that mineral was discovered by him while 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.200 he was examining rock samples from what's now Meteor Crater 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.800 in Canyon Diablo, Arizona, and then they named the silicon 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.840 carbide in honor of him. So anyway, this was in 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.880 the zeitgeist at the time. Making diamonds was the new. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.520 As you said, the alchemy. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.080 People had notions. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.720 They certainly did, and everyone wanted to be the guy 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:41.559 who turned carbon into cash. So there's Ali Limoim, an 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:46.400 amateur bullfighter, soldier, traveler, basically like man of Mystery. He's 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.280 got this great backstory, and that takes us to nineteen 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:54.080 oh five. That's the year that already got in touch 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:59.800 with Sir Julius Werner. Sir Julius was a German born 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.200 British owner of South American diamond mining companies. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.720 Oh yeah, good. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.080 I was the richest of the diamond guys, and just 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.880 one of the richest of the guys period. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:10.920 Beers in them. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.200 He's like one of the owners of beers. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:14.719 I got you, so, Alri, he. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.760 Wanted to demonstrate this claim of his of creating diamonds 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.160 to a guy who made his nut off getting these 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.000 things out of the ground. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.319 Yeah, I got an easier way to do that. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:28.080 Yeah, Like Sir Julius, his company had that controlling interest 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.320 into beers. So we're talking like mega mega rich. So 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.800 Alri first approached him May nineteen oh five, but he 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.720 was really sly about it. Alrie sent two dudes that 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.280 Sir Julius knew and like trusted to go talk to. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:41.480 Him backroom meeting. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.560 Yeah, and they're like, hey, we heard about this guy 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.480 guy who made real diamonds on a commercial scale, Like 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.280 they super exaggerated it, and they were like, if this 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.880 is true, your company could be in serious trouble if 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.160 he decides to compete with you. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:54.160 Ah. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.600 So Sir Julius is like, look, I got to bring 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.440 this guy into the fold. I got to catch and 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.840 kill's totally. So he's like, bring bring how Ari I'll 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.200 meet with him. Stoked, He's like, Sir Jules, gonna call 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.440 you Jules. He you mind diamonds, I make them. I 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.480 can create real, live, actual diamonds, ones that are going 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.440 to fool any gemologists. You can't tell them from the 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.360 ones that are in the ground. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.320 Yeah, because once you get alatt of structure, right, it's 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:20.120 a diamond, it's a diamond. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:20.560 It's a diamond. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.880 And he's like, all I need super hot furnace and 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.920 my secret recipe. That's it. So Sir Julius is like, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.679 can I see this secret recipe just, you know, take 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.640 a little peek, and no, Henries says, of course not. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.960 It's locked away in a safe deposit box Union Bank 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.440 in London. You shall not see it, well, said Sir Julius, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.160 Can I see you make them? And you know, can 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.360 I see the experiment in that? 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:46.720 Show me the magic in action? 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.920 We says Ari. So they set it up for Sir 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:54.440 Julius to come to Ari's workshop to witness awesomeness. And 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.840 you know, Sir Julius gets there and the place is 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.800 all set up. The furnace is like white hot, the 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.199 all fired up, ready to go. Are pulls out a crucible, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:05.839 you know, the vessel where you melt metals at height 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.600 ten and he like turns away and adds a special mix, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.120 and then he places the crucible in the fire. And 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.640 I'm guessing that they made awkward small talk for a while, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.880 and then Alri removes the crucible. After a while, he 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.839 cooled it quickly, water sizzling, and then sifted through it. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.960 He lifted out with some of those long science tweezers 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.960 to the end a diamond, so obviously not a cut diamond, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.840 but the rough stone. It would have been absolutely hilarious 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.880 if you pulled out a cut diamond. That's just me so. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.320 But Sir Julius, He's like, I call foul. He's like, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.760 I need to see this again. I can't just see 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.720 it once, and I need experts on hand to observe 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.440 every detail of what's happening. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:47.640 I need to see the process. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.560 And A's like, no, I don't want more people knowing 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.880 about that proprietary man. And he's like if they find out, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.400 then they can really easily steal the formula and says A, no, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.800 go you know what, Sir Julius, I have boundaries. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:01.640 Yeah. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.400 So they're at an impasse. But finally Ari is like, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.600 all right, I agree, I'll do it. And then Sir 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.040 Julius is like, well, I have one more request. I 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.160 want to see your dangler. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:12.959 What. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.880 Yeah, Sir Julius is like, you have to do this 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.240 in front of all these experts, and you have to 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.840 be in your birthday suit. That way, you can't hide anything. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.640 Oh no, magic up my sleeves. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:25.560 Yeah. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.240 So it's seems he literally did want to see the 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:28.160 He wants to see the. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:32.560 Danglar and it seems very dangerous with like a superheateding. Well, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.800 you need clothing to protect from extreme conditions, and like 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.240 naked founderies don't exist for a reason. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.840 You know, it's hot, all those long gloves and the 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:42.960 aprons and heavy apron. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.760 No, instead, they're like get in there. But you know, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.720 so there's Alri totally nude, totally he was willing to 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:55.160 do it totally. He puts out all the materials for 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.680 the diamond and one of the expert observers was instructed 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.480 to mix them together and then put the mix and 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.640 the crucible and then he seals it up the expert 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.800 and then they make Alred put the crucible on this 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.960 shovel and load it into the furnace, likely burning off 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:10.640 his pubic hair. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.680 Totally naked. So Joe's over there. I like to watch. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.800 He's like, this is something I've wanted to see for 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:17.760 a very long time. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:19.880 I mean, have the money. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.120 I'm telling he's cooking it like multiple thousands of degrees. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.080 And his shovel handle was only fifteen feet long enough. No, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.200 so they like he you know, sticks. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.200 The thing in hair. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.040 Yeah, and they stood around, are still naked for like 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:34.760 a half an hour. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.760 Oh he doesn't get like a robe. Right after they 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:37.800 on to film, Stef. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.640 Stand there want to smoke and they're like kind of 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.840 looking him up and down. Yeah, And then it was 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.080 time to get the crucible out, and so the expert 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:49.000 opened it and found twenty five little diamonds in there. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.280 And then they ran the whole thing again, do it 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:58.760 again like our man and so orson wells, and so 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.200 they run all again and then this time they got 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:06.120 thirty little diamonds. Wow, and so Alri he hands them 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.040 off to Sir Julius. Sir Julius takes him to a 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.080 jeweler in London. That guy determined, you know what, these 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.320 are good quality diamonds all right, but I'm not going 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.960 to buy him because I don't have certificates of origin 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.400 on anything. Sir Julius, He's sold. He's like, okay, you know, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:22.480 like there you go. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:23.760 Even though he's. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:28.280 Likelius, I got them out of the dirt, like personally, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.640 I got some kids to go down there. But trust me, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.720 so of Julius is all about it. So he invited 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.240 other diamond magnets to come and see the experiment, and 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.720 I'm guessing that Ari was allowed to wear clothes from 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.240 that point forward, so it wasn't just like some weird 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.960 rich guys show that he's putting on. Each experiment gleaned 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.480 larger and larger numbers of diamonds. The rich guys were amazed. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.880 Let's stop there, Let's let the furnace cool down, Let's 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.560 make everyone put their clothes back on, or in my case, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.880 put more clothes on. When we come back. We're going 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:37.040 to see what the fat cats do with this incredible discovery. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.520 Zaren Elizabeth. Okay, so where was I naked diamond guy? 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:29.000 Yeah? 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.399 Ah, re the naked diamond guy. So he convinced the 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.440 rich diamond guys that he actually could make diamonds at home. Okay, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.200 he could best Mother Earth. And so they all decided 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.479 that Unrie would return the formula to be locked up 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.440 in the London bank and it wouldn't be opened again 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.560 until he died, and at that point the recipe would 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.440 become property of Sir Julius. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.480 So they planned to kill him pretty much. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.280 But for this kind of catch and kill, there needs 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.159 to be compensation for this source. Yeah, of course, like 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.480 if three, if he's like I'm not going to use 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.440 this formula to make myself rich and then crash the diamond. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:08.680 I need to get my beak wet. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:09.680 Totally very wet. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.440 Sir Julius paid him three hundred and twenty thousand dollars 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:15.160 for the whole thing. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.360 What's that? We know what that is converted. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.879 Eleven million dollars today. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:19.760 I still doesn't seem like enough. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.800 No, when you look at the diamond, how much it's worth? Yeah, 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.440 so this would not want to have bill Oh yeah, 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.919 give me like how much are you worth? Cut me half? Yeah, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.879 I'm terrible. So this wasn't just going to lock up 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.760 the formula, right, but it would also the money would 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.080 establish a lab for Allri in the Pyrenees where he 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:45.080 could continue to discover cool stuff and like hone this formula. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.760 And then Sir Julius initially he's like, look, I just 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.840 want to buy you off. But Alri he's like insisting 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.679 on this lab. And he even sent the plans and 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.119 like photos of it the building to the de Beers folks. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.600 I don't think they cared. They're like, gait, I love 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:06.080 that for you, really nice, thank you. So but Alri 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.879 he convinced Sir Julius that he was honing the process 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:13.040 and he needed investments. It would all benefit Sir Julius, 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:15.760 so he just needed to fund it, and that was 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.920 Alri's logic. So over the next three years, Sir Julius 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.120 he like pours thousands of pounds into this quote secret process. 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.879 Alri went to other investors looking for funding for his 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.200 diamond lab, and that irked Sir Julius because, like Alrea, 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.280 getting outside funding would make the little secret deal public 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:34.320