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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: How are you ah doing well? How about you? I'm

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Speaker 2: really good, look well rested?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm not, but I'm good.

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Speaker 2: You're faking it? Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how are you? Have you? Have you been sleeping?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: I gave that it's not it's not fashion.

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Speaker 2: I gave it up for lent and just kept on rolling.

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Speaker 3: Can never look back. Uh, do you know what's ridiculous

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 5: Friend of the show, Billy Idol, Yeah, you know you've

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Speaker 5: discovered him, right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well recently, just this year, he found out that

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Speaker 5: he went through one of life's great transitions of menopause

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Speaker 5: no becoming a father for the third time.

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Speaker 3: He rocked the Cradle of Love totally.

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Speaker 5: The sixty nine year old was not shocked to learn

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Speaker 5: that he had a secret son named Brandt, because Billy

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Speaker 5: Idols said, quote, He's had sex with millions of people.

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Speaker 4: Who brand title.

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Speaker 5: He also admitted that this is what I love is.

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Speaker 5: He threw in all of his colleagues in the rock world.

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Speaker 5: He's like, well, a lot of us probably of likely

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Speaker 5: fathered children outside of our usual relationships.

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Speaker 3: So did he do a roll call of most likely suspects.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 5: I wish he did, but he did say. The more

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Speaker 5: I thought about it, I guess there must be something

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Speaker 5: like that about learning about his child, something like that. Oh,

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Speaker 5: because quote, we were just going around in the eighties

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Speaker 5: and seventies just having knockdown, drag out sex with a

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Speaker 5: million people.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know.

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Speaker 5: The first thing I like is he does eighties, then seventies,

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Speaker 5: he goes backwards in time. And then also I like

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Speaker 5: that knockdown drag out sex. You don't think sex is

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Speaker 5: not followed knockdown drag out, Like, Billy, do you understand

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Speaker 5: what sex is?

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Speaker 3: You know what? He's the original route.

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Speaker 2: Dude, dude, he is so ridiculous. He's front of the show.

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Speaker 2: Shout out it is.

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Speaker 3: That is ridiculous. And do you want to know what

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Speaker 3: else is ridiculous?

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Speaker 7: These naked scamming Oh.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this here is a ridiculous crime. A podcast about

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Speaker 3: absurd and outrageous capers, heist cons It's always ninety nine

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Speaker 3: percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You damn right.

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Speaker 3: I am so damn right.

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Speaker 2: Look at you over there.

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Speaker 3: I think I've mentioned this to you before, but I

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Speaker 3: have a friend in the diamond business.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: You know him, Paul from the Dims exactly.

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Speaker 5: I've talked a lot on You told me that every

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Speaker 5: kiss begins with K. I will never forget that.

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Speaker 3: And you know what he went to, Jared. I've talked

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Speaker 3: a lot on here about stolen gems.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you have. You love them?

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 3: They're light and portable, yeah, very very valuable. So it's

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Speaker 3: like the perfect target.

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Speaker 2: I've heard this from my friends who sell drugs, not to.

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Speaker 3: Victim blank, yeah you know, but it's perfect target.

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Speaker 2: They're better than cash.

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Speaker 3: It's so glamorous to steal diamonds, like you don't steal

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Speaker 2: No go to downtown LA to the diamond districy.

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Speaker 3: You jet off to Antwerp with the diamonds in like

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Speaker 2: Love that.

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Speaker 3: Then you stay in a high end hotel and you

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Speaker 3: have to go to Paris to meet up with another

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Speaker 2: I got to get back in the gym.

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Speaker 3: You do, and then the deal's done. You go to

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Speaker 2: This is like a James Bond movie. But let people up, that's.

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Speaker 3: What it seems like. Diamond theft is like based on

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Speaker 3: movies or like crap TV shows. All right, one would think,

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Speaker 3: But there's another side of diamond crimes.

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Speaker 2: There are you about open my eyes?

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Speaker 3: I'm so about to open your eyes. But I've told

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Speaker 3: you this kind of thing before. This is true a

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Speaker 3: diamond hoax. So yeah, remember those dudes that scattered the

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Speaker 3: gems in the high desert, which there were cut gems,

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh look, major cut these perfectly. They're ready

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Speaker 3: So the diamonds aren't stolen, but they're part of a con.

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Speaker 3: It's an accessory. And that's exactly the type of crime

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you about today. It's a kN

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Speaker 3: a glorious con and it all centers around Alri Numouan.

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Speaker 2: If you say so, yeah, how do I spell that

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Speaker 2: with a lemon? Okay, perfect.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a date of birth for this guy,

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Maybe eighteen sixties, eighteen seventies earlier. His dad was French

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Speaker 3: consul in Trieste, Italy.

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Speaker 2: No good place to be a French console, right.

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Speaker 3: And that's where he met Ari's mom, and he eventually

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Speaker 3: moved back to France, to the foothills of the Pyrenees near.

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Speaker 2: Tar Okay down south.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and they.

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Speaker 3: Had little Alri. His dad out of the Foreign service,

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Speaker 2: Oh seems like a step.

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Speaker 3: Down, but maybe not. What did little Unri like to

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Speaker 2: What did he like to do?

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth, Well zarn. He would hop on an ox and

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Speaker 3: teartail all over town at ox an ox like, ye.

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Speaker 2: Haw, that's a big slow animal the.

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Speaker 3: French, yeah souchon. And so this led him though. He

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Speaker 3: wound up serving on the cavalry on horseback.

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Speaker 2: Oh good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was like an amateur bullfighter.

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Speaker 2: Oh heck, yeah, he knows ox.

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Speaker 3: And he became an adventure guy basically totally all about

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Speaker 3: the feats of daring do, and he went like where

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Speaker 3: the adventure took him. So he traveled all over Europe,

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Speaker 3: article from the International Gemalogical Institute, quote at fifteen, he

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Speaker 3: abused the gullibility of tourists. He exercised at fairs with

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Speaker 3: a certain talent, the trade of illusionist. So he was

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Speaker 3: a magician, yeah, Alrilemoir, Yes, teen illusionist. This fall on CBS,

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Speaker 3: and this comes on right after Watson, which Paramount plus

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Speaker 3: seems determined to meet me. Watch but you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'd do what I want Zane. So it was around

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Speaker 3: eighteen ninety eight that he got bored of being like

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Speaker 3: the nineteenth century version of selling NFTs and he found

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Speaker 3: a new love, which is diamonds. Diamonds were Ari's best friend.

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Speaker 2: They are forever right.

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Speaker 3: And so it was eighteen ninety eight that he met

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Speaker 3: Maurice Coklan, an engineer, and his story of their early

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Speaker 3: later he said that Ari quote was employed as a

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Speaker 3: canvasser for an advertising firm. One talked very glibly, announced

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: You know, every con man has a half truth. Yes,

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Speaker 3: so he's like someone who once bought a chemistry set

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Speaker 3: he's bill ny. But people of the time like he's

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So that same engineer, very soon after he said that,

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Speaker 3: he you know, he told that he was positive that

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Speaker 3: Ari was making actual, real diamonds thanks to this formula

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Speaker 3: he'd come up. Okay, so I should say here that

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Speaker 3: scientists in the late nineteenth century were obsessed with making diamonds.

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Speaker 2: The scientific alchemy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So the big dog of that was another Ari.

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Speaker 3: Ari Mois Sommes. He was a French chemist best known

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, and then.

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Speaker 3: That was around eighteen ninety two check, and it could

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Speaker 3: this allowed people Hymns, particularly to study materials under conditions

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Speaker 3: Got him the nineteen oh six Nobel Prize in chemistry.

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Speaker 2: Whoa big dog, Madam Carrie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So back to his diamonds, though he didn't

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Speaker 5: Okay, but was he making like essentially like almost like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so by at this time, like scientists

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Speaker 2: Artificial Roman could do it in the palm of his hands.

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Speaker 3: Temperature heat there it is so son like his invention

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Speaker 3: the idea. He mixed carbons so like charcoal or sugar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like a distillation processor, they separate and then yeah.

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Speaker 3: So instead of the enormous pressure of the Earth on it.

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Speaker 3: He's replicating that, really love this. And he reported that

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Speaker 3: he produced tiny crystals embedded in the iron globules, and

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Speaker 3: the crystals were so like microscopic, but he's like, they're

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Speaker 3: diamonds when you look at the microscape, the structure of it,

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Speaker 3: and like later you know, when people analyzed it, some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that mineral was discovered by him while

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Speaker 3: he was examining rock samples from what's now Meteor Crater

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Speaker 3: carbide in honor of him. So anyway, this was in

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Speaker 3: the zeitgeist at the time. Making diamonds was the new.

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Speaker 3: As you said, the alchemy.

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Speaker 2: People had notions.

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Speaker 3: They certainly did, and everyone wanted to be the guy

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Speaker 3: who turned carbon into cash. So there's Ali Limoim, an

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Speaker 3: got this great backstory, and that takes us to nineteen

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Speaker 3: oh five. That's the year that already got in touch

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Speaker 3: with Sir Julius Werner. Sir Julius was a German born

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, good.

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Speaker 3: I was the richest of the diamond guys, and just

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Speaker 2: Beers in them.

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Speaker 3: He's like one of the owners of beers.

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Speaker 4: I got you, so, Alri, he.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to demonstrate this claim of his of creating diamonds

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an easier way to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Sir Julius, his company had that controlling interest

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Speaker 3: into beers. So we're talking like mega mega rich. So

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Speaker 3: Alri first approached him May nineteen oh five, but he

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Speaker 3: was really sly about it. Alrie sent two dudes that

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Speaker 2: Him backroom meeting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, hey, we heard about this guy

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Speaker 3: guy who made real diamonds on a commercial scale, Like

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Speaker 3: they super exaggerated it, and they were like, if this

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: So Sir Julius is like, look, I got to bring

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Speaker 3: kill's totally. So he's like, bring bring how Ari I'll

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Speaker 3: meet with him. Stoked, He's like, Sir Jules, gonna call

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Speaker 3: you Jules. He you mind diamonds, I make them. I

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Speaker 3: can create real, live, actual diamonds, ones that are going

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Speaker 3: to fool any gemologists. You can't tell them from the

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Speaker 3: ones that are in the ground.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because once you get alatt of structure, right, it's

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Speaker 2: It's a diamond.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, all I need super hot furnace and

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Speaker 3: my secret recipe. That's it. So Sir Julius is like,

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Speaker 3: a little peek, and no, Henries says, of course not.

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Speaker 3: It's locked away in a safe deposit box Union Bank

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Speaker 3: in London. You shall not see it, well, said Sir Julius,

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Speaker 3: Can I see you make them? And you know, can

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Speaker 3: I see the experiment in that?

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Speaker 2: Show me the magic in action?

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Speaker 3: We says Ari. So they set it up for Sir

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Speaker 3: Julius to come to Ari's workshop to witness awesomeness. And

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Speaker 3: all set up. The furnace is like white hot, the

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Speaker 3: all fired up, ready to go. Are pulls out a crucible,

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Speaker 3: ten and he like turns away and adds a special mix,

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Speaker 3: and then Alri removes the crucible. After a while, he

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Speaker 3: He lifted out with some of those long science tweezers

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Speaker 3: if you pulled out a cut diamond. That's just me so.

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Speaker 3: But Sir Julius, He's like, I call foul. He's like,

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Speaker 3: I need to see this again. I can't just see

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Speaker 2: I need to see the process.

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Speaker 3: And A's like, no, I don't want more people knowing

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Speaker 3: then they can really easily steal the formula and says A, no,

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Speaker 3: go you know what, Sir Julius, I have boundaries.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So they're at an impasse. But finally Ari is like,

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Speaker 3: all right, I agree, I'll do it. And then Sir

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Speaker 3: Julius is like, well, I have one more request. I

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Speaker 3: want to see your dangler.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sir Julius is like, you have to do this

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Speaker 3: be in your birthday suit. That way, you can't hide anything.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, magic up my sleeves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's seems he literally did want to see the

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Speaker 2: He wants to see the.

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Speaker 3: Danglar and it seems very dangerous with like a superheateding. Well,

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Speaker 3: you need clothing to protect from extreme conditions, and like

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Speaker 5: You know, it's hot, all those long gloves and the

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Speaker 3: No, instead, they're like get in there. But you know,

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Speaker 3: so there's Alri totally nude, totally he was willing to

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Speaker 3: the diamond and one of the expert observers was instructed

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Speaker 3: the crucible and then he seals it up the expert

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Speaker 3: and then they make Alred put the crucible on this

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Speaker 3: his pubic hair.

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Speaker 2: Totally naked. So Joe's over there. I like to watch.

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Speaker 3: He's like, this is something I've wanted to see for

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Speaker 2: I mean, have the money.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling he's cooking it like multiple thousands of degrees.

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Speaker 3: And his shovel handle was only fifteen feet long enough. No,

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Speaker 3: so they like he you know, sticks.

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Speaker 2: The thing in hair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they stood around, are still naked for like

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Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't get like a robe. Right after they

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Speaker 3: Stand there want to smoke and they're like kind of

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Speaker 3: And then they ran the whole thing again, do it

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Speaker 3: again like our man and so orson wells, and so

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Speaker 3: they run all again and then this time they got

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Speaker 3: thirty little diamonds. Wow, and so Alri he hands them

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Speaker 3: off to Sir Julius. Sir Julius takes him to a

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Speaker 3: jeweler in London. That guy determined, you know what, these

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Speaker 3: are good quality diamonds all right, but I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to buy him because I don't have certificates of origin

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Speaker 3: on anything. Sir Julius, He's sold. He's like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: like there you go.

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Speaker 4: Even though he's.

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Speaker 3: Likelius, I got them out of the dirt, like personally,

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Speaker 3: I got some kids to go down there. But trust me,

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Speaker 3: so of Julius is all about it. So he invited

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing that Ari was allowed to wear clothes from

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Speaker 3: that point forward, so it wasn't just like some weird

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Speaker 3: rich guys show that he's putting on. Each experiment gleaned

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Speaker 3: larger and larger numbers of diamonds. The rich guys were amazed.

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Speaker 3: Let's stop there, Let's let the furnace cool down, Let's

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Speaker 3: make everyone put their clothes back on, or in my case,

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Speaker 3: put more clothes on. When we come back. We're going

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Speaker 3: to see what the fat cats do with this incredible discovery.

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Speaker 2: Zaren Elizabeth. Okay, so where was I naked diamond guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Ah, re the naked diamond guy. So he convinced the

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Speaker 3: rich diamond guys that he actually could make diamonds at home. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he could best Mother Earth. And so they all decided

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Speaker 3: that Unrie would return the formula to be locked up

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Speaker 3: until he died, and at that point the recipe would

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Speaker 3: become property of Sir Julius.

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Speaker 2: So they planned to kill him pretty much.

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Speaker 3: But for this kind of catch and kill, there needs

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Speaker 3: to be compensation for this source. Yeah, of course, like

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Speaker 3: if three, if he's like I'm not going to use

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Speaker 3: I need to get my beak wet.

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Speaker 2: Totally very wet.

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Speaker 3: Sir Julius paid him three hundred and twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: for the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Eleven million dollars today.

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Speaker 2: I still doesn't seem like enough.

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Speaker 3: No, when you look at the diamond, how much it's worth? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so this would not want to have bill Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm terrible. So this wasn't just going to lock up

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Speaker 3: establish a lab for Allri in the Pyrenees where he

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Speaker 3: could continue to discover cool stuff and like hone this formula.

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Speaker 3: And then Sir Julius initially he's like, look, I just

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Speaker 3: want to buy you off. But Alri he's like insisting

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Speaker 3: like photos of it the building to the de Beers folks.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they cared. They're like, gait, I love

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Speaker 3: that for you, really nice, thank you. So but Alri

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Speaker 3: he convinced Sir Julius that he was honing the process

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Speaker 3: so he just needed to fund it, and that was

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Speaker 3: he like pours thousands of pounds into this quote secret process.

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Speaker 3: Alri went to other investors looking for funding for his

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Speaker 3: someone shot at him. He was just like chilling under

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Speaker 3: like basically a drive by. These unidentified tourists in a

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Speaker 3: to let it go real, simmy, shimmy, Coco, what listen

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Speaker 2: Pound Thompson.

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Speaker 3: From a revolver. They hit his coat and his newspaper,

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Speaker 3: not him but here's the thing. The diamonds weren't Alre's

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Speaker 2: Slash former mark.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, at some point, Sir Julius, he becomes suspicious

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Speaker 5: That I want to do a title mosaic floor in

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Speaker 3: We need upgrades. And the more time passed, the more

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Speaker 2: The man was naked making diamonds right well.

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Speaker 3: Francis Oates, chairman of de Beers, who attended the experiments,

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Speaker 3: Like step back, look at it as an outsider one

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Speaker 2: Was he not asking for enough for them to believe it.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps, you know, sometimes where people don't think you really

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Speaker 3: at his diamond factory in Jelais, Like, let's go to Arsela.

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Speaker 3: So you're filthy, rich captains of industry doing like shoe

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00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: leather detective in the absolute middle of nowhere.

445
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: With like baskets of food.

446
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 3: They're getting their hands ward three different guns of olive oil.

447
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: So I like to imagine them getting there like on

448
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: a map like Indiana Jones Dash. So they get to

449
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: France because they're they're in England and then they go

450
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: to Arjelais and they're all keyed up to confront Ari

451
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: and his mad scientists layer. So they make it to

452
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: Lords and that's you know, the closest big and then

453
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 3: they took a carriage a bit south to Arjelais. They

454
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: arrive in this small town and they ask everyone they meet,

455
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: like do you know Alri? And they're talking about him,

456
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: like do you know him? You know where I can

457
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: find his lab? And everyone's like I don't know. So

458
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: they pull out into a photo of like this impressive

459
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: large factory nestled into the foothills, like surrounded by a

460
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: lush forest, and the landscape looked right, but like people

461
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: are like, I don't I don't know what that is exactly.

462
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 3: One person after another's just like shrugging. They're like, I

463
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about. And then they go

464
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 3: to like the baker and the like, you know what,

465
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: you should go to the police station. That's a good idea,

466
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: like if they know how to find.

467
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: Anyone, you know, cab drivers or cops, right.

468
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: And so their closure eyes, Oh yeah, I want you

469
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: to picture it. Oh, you are a gendarmes in jelais

470
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: like your father before you. You are, for the time,

471
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: very tech savy. You like to have all the latest innovations,

472
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 3: and you often travel to Lords or even tarb to

473
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: get copies of international papers and magazines looking for news

474
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: of this exciting new world. You are especially fascinated by

475
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: the innovations in transportation. The hot air balloons don't really

476
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: do it for you, but the cars. You have a

477
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: buddy who moved to Paris a decade or so ago

478
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 3: to work at Renault. He got you a line on

479
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 3: one of their new mass produced taxi cars, petroleum powered.

480
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: You keep it in your barn, covered in a tarp.

481
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: There isn't access to fuel here, so you have to

482
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: ration what you get and it kind of freaks people out.

483
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: Everyone in town knows you're eccentric, but you try not

484
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: to push things in their faces. So there you are

485
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: sitting at the counter in the Gendarmerie reading an engineering magazine,

486
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: learning about new fabrication techniques used in factories. In the

487
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: back room, the captain is practicing his accordion. It's only

488
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: charming because it's so muffled, but there's a town festival

489
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: coming up and he wants to make sure his performance

490
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: is perfect. There you see two men walk in and

491
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: speak to a colleague of yours. He hears what they

492
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: have to say, shrugs in that beautifully French way, and

493
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: then points to you. I believe he can help you.

494
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: You hear him say to the men. They shuffle over

495
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: to you. Their beard games are impressive, big hefty beards

496
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: that come to a point. Distinguished. One asks you in

497
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: French if you speak English, I do you assure them

498
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: you're one of the few in town who do. The

499
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: man tells you that this French is passable, but he

500
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: needs to provide detail that he's not sure how to translate.

501
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: You read scientific journals in English all the time. You

502
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: tell them please proceed. He tells you, in a lyrical

503
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: English accent, that they are there to locate enrie l'umoin.

504
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: You explain that you don't know of such a man.

505
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: They produce so photo. You recognize it. It's in arah Onladon,

506
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: a small village not too far away. But you tell

507
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: them and that you aren't sure that's the building they're

508
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: looking for. They assure you it is and begin to

509
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: debate each other as to how to get there. They

510
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: ask you how far it is. You tell them it's

511
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: about four kilometers away. They ask you where they can

512
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: hire a carriage to take them to it. They'll pay

513
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: whatever's asked. I'll do you one better. You say, I

514
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: can drive you by motor coach. They look stunned. You

515
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: tell them you have a Renow taxi. Unbelievable, one of

516
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: them says, follow me. You tell them. You get out

517
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: onto the street, leaving the station in the accordion behind you,

518
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: nod to shopkeepers as you pass, and head two blocks

519
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: down to your cottage with its barn out back. The

520
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: men follow you and watch as you creak open the

521
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: big barn door, then whip the heavy canvas cloth from

522
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: a car. One of them whistles. Very impressed, you turn

523
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: and raise one eyebrow. This whole thing is turning out

524
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: so much cooler than you could have ever imagined. You

525
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: crank the front of the engine. It roars to The

526
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: men climb in the back of the carriage, and you

527
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: take your spot behind the wheel. Can it be protecting

528
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 3: you from the sun? As you roll out into the afternoon,

529
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: You pilot the car down the cobblestones of the town

530
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: streets and onto the hard packed dirt road leading to

531
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: a La Lavedan. You jostle along the road, trees shading

532
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: the lane and birds singing in the air. You round

533
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: a corner and come to a stop. Towering above you

534
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: is the building from the photo. It's massive. It's impressive.

535
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: The men climb out of the taxi and stare at

536
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: the building a dog. The building is producing a low hum.

537
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: How do you get in there? They ask? Oh, you

538
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: don't really. You tell them that it's a power station

539
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: that supplies electricity to all the surrounding villages.

540
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: What they are irate?

541
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: Are you sure it's not a laboratory? One asks? Of course,

542
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: you tell them, can you take us to the closest

543
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: train station that'll get us to Paris the fastest? They

544
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: ask you. You tell them you think you have enough

545
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: gas to get them to a train station, provided you

546
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: stop back in town to pick it up. Of course,

547
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: one tells you, while the other shoves an enormous wad

548
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: of francs in your hand. This is a matter of

549
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: utmost legal importance, one says, Do you have a way

550
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: for us to contact national security in Paris? You can

551
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: use the telegraph at the gendarmerie, You tell him Ali,

552
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: He yells and hops into the car. You climb behind

553
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: the wheel and whip a U turn on the dirt road.

554
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: Dust sprang up behind you.

555
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: Best day ever.

556
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: So when they get to Paris, Julius told the French

557
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: National Security Office that quote, by means of tricks and press,

558
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: digitation and.

559
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: Conjuring magic, comes back that Alrie.

560
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: Had succeeded in inducing him to part with three hundred

561
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 3: and twenty thousand dollars for the purpose of setting up

562
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: this special laboratory. When they did the calculations. Auri took

563
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 3: the De Beer's diamond company for about one point six

564
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: million francs. Nice And when Julius told the whole story,

565
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: the authorities were like, how could Henri have possed simply

566
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: faked the diamonds when he was watched so closely and

567
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: was totally naked, and you know, with Allri and the wind,

568
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: Julius and Oates had sent someone to investigate the original

569
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: lab and found that the crucible that a re used

570
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: had a false spot.

571
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: He's a magician bottom.

572
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: Everyone was distracted by this from Ari's real bottom.

573
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: Because he was he was showing, so.

574
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: Look at the real bottom, missed the false spot.

575
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: It's the classic distraction is al Re.

576
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: And that's I think why he then realizes when they'd say, look, oh,

577
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: you have to be naked, and he's like, yeah, all

578
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: right exactly. So Alri he gets arrested for obtaining under

579
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: false pretenses the money from Sir Julius, and then the

580
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: newspapers ate the story up. I bet they did everything

581
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: from like the snooty intellectual papers to tabloids ran stories

582
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: daily about it. Oh yeah, Allri. He hired Fernand Labori

583
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: as his lawyer. I don't know if I'm saying isn't

584
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: the last name right, But he was the defense attorney

585
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: with an impressive roster of clients, like impressive.

586
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: Clarence Darrow of He.

587
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: He defended Emil Zola in eighteen ninety eight in the

588
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: Dreyfus trial, like the whole Jacquus, and then he defended

589
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: Captain Alfred Dreyfus himself at his court martial in eighteen ninety.

590
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Nine, just always like I'll take you on this time.

591
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. He was also lawyer for none other than Friend

592
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: of the show Terrey Sumbert, the gal who pretended to

593
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: be an heir of an imaginary American millionaire Crawford. That's

594
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: who Alri got to defend him, Like he's going up

595
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: against de beers. He's like, I need a heavy.

596
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Hitter, Johnny Cochran.

597
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: Yes.

598
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: And so with the press watching like salivating over the drama,

599
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: Alre stuck to his story of being this torture genius

600
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: who became a pawn of the diamond fat cats, and

601
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: he kept saying he could really make his own real diamonds,

602
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: you guys. He begged the court and the press to like,

603
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: let me s ow you this is true. Let me

604
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: show you how I do this. Give me another opportunity

605
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: to get naked meat magic. So there was this huge

606
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: public debate, like is he a mad, misunderstood scientist? Is

607
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: he a scammer? Like you got to prove it. So meanwhile,

608
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: according to The New York Times, Allrey Quote accused Sir

609
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: Julius of conspiring with him to force the De Beer's

610
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: company to buy the secret for twenty five million dollars.

611
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: It was alleged, on the other hand, that Lemoit was

612
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: preparing to make money by buying De Beer's shares as

613
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: soon as they dropped on the publication of the stories

614
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: about his success.

615
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: He's gonna short them, uh huh.

616
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: It came out that before he went to Sir Julius Werner,

617
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: Lenoir had obtained money from Edgar Cohen, one of the

618
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: directors of Herod's stores in London, and had also gotten

619
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: two thousand dollars out of an American named Segmuent upon

620
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: the same pretext. So he's just playing everybody off of everybody, Yes,

621
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: and he keeps asking for an opportunity to prove himself

622
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: with an experiment. But then it came out that like

623
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: his diamonds. Even the raw had very small jewelers marks

624
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: on them. Oh, they'd been bought in Paris and came

625
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: right from De Beer's own South African.

626
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: Minds, Like, look what I made?

627
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: You made? Does this look familiar to this Parisian diamond

628
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: dealer comes forward and it's like, there's this jeweler, Bordier,

629
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: who bought a bunch of rough diamonds for me. And

630
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: then they did all this tracking and it turns out

631
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: that Bordier is Ari And then like, but then there's

632
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: the envelope, one of the envelopes.

633
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: What are the Elizabeth's take great questions?

634
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: We come back, We're gonna go searching for that envelope,

635
00:31:41,600 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: much like with Teres Umbert right Zaren.

636
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: Yes, these names are killing me. I can't repeat them

637
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: back to you. I'm like, I'm just gonna let.

638
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Dear France, I am sorry. So I just want

639
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: to say I'm so sorry.

640
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: No, no, I would you don't want to say I'm sorry.

641
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Henry Lemon was saying.

642
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Dear my ancestors. So anyway, he said that he was

643
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: making diamonds, which turned out to be false. He said

644
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: he had a special secret formula for them, which was

645
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: locked up in the London bank totally. So this formula, right,

646
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: Sir Julius is like, I want the envelope, like does

647
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: he really have it? And he's hiding it, Like I

648
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: can't trust this because he could bring the beers down

649
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: with this, And so he's.

650
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: Like, as long as that envelope is out there floating

651
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 5: around its bread to the stock price, yes.

652
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: And so he's desperate to open it up and see

653
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: what secret lives inside, already determined to keep that from happening.

654
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Not even that's all I kept thinking about.

655
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: It's like the Coca Cola rest, it's KFC. So in court,

656
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: the judge said that he's like, you know, I don't

657
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: really have jurisdiction in London, so my hands are tied.

658
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: Aure was thrilled, but then he doubled down. Like so,

659
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: according to the New York Times quote, Lamoin brightens up.

660
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: He takes a step forward and talks with great seriousness

661
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: as follows. I undertake to realize upon the whole of

662
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: my property, including my household furniture, and to the amount

663
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: thus obtained, I will add one hundred and thirty thousand

664
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: dollars worth of shares, which I will place, and the

665
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: keeping of the magistrate is a guarantee. I will then

666
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: carry on my experiments witnessed by experts selected by the Magistrate.

667
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: If I fail, Monsieur le suges, you are at liberty

668
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: to hand the whole of the guarantee fund to Sir

669
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: Julius Werner. If I succeed, I shall ask that he

670
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: pay me the sum mentioned in the contract, in addition

671
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: to damages for defamation. But in order to do this,

672
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: I demand, first of all, to be released on bail.

673
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: Like I can prove it to you.

674
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Just let me take these cups off for a moment.

675
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: Sir Julius fully opposed to bail, and the judges, like

676
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 3: I too, am fully opposed to bail.

677
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: Yea.

678
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: But while Alri couldn't get out of jail to get

679
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: to the bank and get the letter, his wife certainly could.

680
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: He's married, so she high tailed it to London to

681
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: keep the bank from delivering the sealed envelope to the court.

682
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: Sir Julius gives Chase he wanted to get the envelope

683
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: first before she could bring an injunction. And then while

684
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: Alri he didn't get bail, but he did get permission

685
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: to send a telegram, and here's what he wrote to

686
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: the bank. Quote, this is to inform you that a

687
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: registered letter follows forbidding you formally to hand to Sir

688
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: Julius Werner or any other party, any branch or agency

689
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: of your bank the sealed envelope deposited with you on

690
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: June eighth, nineteen oh five, and to inform you that

691
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: I have taken all legal measures to prevent you from

692
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 3: authorizing the removal of this envelope.

693
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: That's a long telegram, super long. Yeah.

694
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: So this held for a little while, but eventually the

695
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: English court told the bank to cooperate with the French court.

696
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I was wondering about that, the international cooperation

697
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: between At that.

698
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: Point they're like, yeah, fine, alri. He told the judge

699
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: that quote, he had no objection whatsoever to manufacture diamonds

700
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 3: to prove his ability to the court, but he could

701
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: not consent to have his secret formula read and published.

702
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: Yes.

703
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. The judge is like, I'm intrigued. I like this.

704
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: Take your clothes off. I want to see science happen.

705
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: Take your clothes off.

706
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: So he granted nothing but mustache wax and just stand

707
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: in the.

708
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: Corner of the courtroom. I've heard a lot about you.

709
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: So anyway, he's like, you know what, I'm going to

710
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: release you on bail for two months. And here's the thing, though,

711
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: you have to grow a gigantic synthetic diamond in that time.

712
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: It has to be bigger than anything on the market.

713
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: It has to blow my socks off. Wow, judge, and

714
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: you and you have to be naked, and you have

715
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: until June ninth, nineteen oh eight to do it.

716
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

717
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: So he's just like you keep saying, you keep begging

718
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: to do this experiment. All right, you got two months,

719
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: but it has to be mega. According to the New

720
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: York Times quote on June Night's remember he had by

721
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: June ninth, nineteen oh eight to do it. Quote On

722
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: June ninth, he appeared in court and announced that unforeseen

723
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: circumstances had prevented the success of his experiments. He professed

724
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: still the utmost confidence and asked for an extension of time.

725
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: He was granted another week.

726
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's going to get that.

727
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: A week went by, there was no diamond. There was

728
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: also no only he'd done a runner.

729
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: So he's in Russia.

730
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: Do you know what was there the envelope. Oh so,

731
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 3: sir Julius, he's very eager to get this baby open.

732
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: How does he know it's the envelope because.

733
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: It came like it was seized.

734
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: By British court then brought in.

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: Ok he's just like squirming in his seat, all riggling

736
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: and like drooling.

737
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: Mouth is wet.

738
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: So the paper inside was read and there are conflicting

739
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: reports as to what was in it. Pretty much everyone

740
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: was like it was just kind of this like jumble

741
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: of gibberish. There are varying reports and it's somewhere in between.

742
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: There are three. I'm going to read them to you, Okay.

743
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: So the first one was his formula quote iron boron

744
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: animal charcoal equal thirty fifty five fifteen one hundred. I

745
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: placed this mixture in a crucible, which I then into

746
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: an electric furnace before turning on. The current passed through

747
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: the crucible for a certain time carbonic acid CO two

748
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: so as to drive out all the oxygen. I then

749
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: turn on the current, continuing to pass carbonic acid through

750
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: the mixture. The time of heating depends on the quantity

751
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: of the mixture used.

752
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: It's like close enough, you might believe it. Yeah.

753
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

754
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: Second option to make diamonds, it will suffice to employ

755
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: the following process. One take an electric furnace. Two, take

756
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: some powder of carbon obtained from sugar. Three, place this

757
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: carbon in a crucible. Four deposit it in a furnace,

758
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: and raise the temperature from fifteen hundred degrees to eighteen

759
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: hundred degrees with a tension of one hundred and ten volts.

760
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 4: Five.

761
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: When this temperature is attained, to apply pressure through the cover. Six.

762
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: The diamonds are now ready, and it only remains to

763
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: take them from the furnace. Signed Lee.

764
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: I've heard like bread recipes that I have more detailed

765
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: than that.

766
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: My favorite report is the one that said the paper

767
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: in the envelope red quote, it is very difficult to

768
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: manufacture diamonds. You can try by crystallizing carbon, which you

769
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: must subject to the desired heat and pressure.

770
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: That's it.

771
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: That's it, good mind, not, that's some that I like.

772
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: It's like so basically, you know, you probably could do it,

773
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: but you'd have to, like.

774
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: You need a heats carbon like this, like a planet.

775
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: Would you'd have to put it inside planet.

776
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's probably.

777
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: The best way to do it. So the cops like, okay,

778
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: so all Rey's gone. They read this garbage. The cops

779
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: are desperate to catch him. He's high. It's like the

780
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 3: whole thing is high profile. And then you get these

781
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: wealthy victims because like, that's how it works. Are you new,

782
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: here's Aaron That's how it works.

783
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: It's not my first rodeo. I've ridden an ox before.

784
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: Yo. So some were like, you know what, I think

785
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: he went to Romania like that was like.

786
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm guessing Eastern Europe with Russia.

787
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: Others were like, I heard he went to Greece. And

788
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: still others were like, you know what I hear he's

789
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: in Egypt.

790
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: Oh he likes the weather.

791
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like he has all these kind of exotic places.

792
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: His wife was meanwhile, like you know what I heard.

793
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm not married to him anymore.

794
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: He divorce.

795
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: She's like, guess what I'm done. And then he was

796
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: found guilty and sentenced in absentia for his crimes. He

797
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 3: had ten years. That's a fine, Okay, it's good things.

798
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: She ditched April nineteen oh nine.

799
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: They got him where rusted?

800
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: Where in the world did they find him?

801
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where is this Carmen San Diego?

802
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Where did these professional trackers finally nab him.

803
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: I'm guessing America Paris. He had he was inis on

804
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: the left back.

805
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: He was just the press reported of his quote, freely

806
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: showing himself on the streets naked, That's what I want

807
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: to know. And in the music halls with no other

808
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: disguise than a shaven chin and a mustache trained upwards.

809
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 3: He's like plowing it up totally.

810
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: He's got a little fresh mustache wax.

811
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: And they caught him with the guy who used to

812
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: be his assistant, and then at least like he pretended

813
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: to be as much back in the day. I don't

814
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: know if it was like an accomplice like another, like

815
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: he didn't resist. In fact, they're like he's like, may

816
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: we yes, what do you want? Hey? But he hadn't

817
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: been in Paris that long, like just a few days.

818
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: He was staying at a hotel. He was using the alias.

819
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: Hans Lightna, are you kidding me?

820
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 3: A London merchant. My name is Hans the London.

821
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: Of Dutch or German origin, but of special magic origin.

822
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: And he only had twenty francs on him.

823
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: That's it. Wow.

824
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: He told authorities that after he ran from Paris, he

825
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: went to Sofia. Yeah, and then he went to Budapeste

826
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: and then Vienna and then Trieste, you know where his

827
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: parents met. Beautiful.

828
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: Then he hit up London, took a river up the Danube.

829
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then he went back to Paris. He's like,

830
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: you know, just scooted around for a year. He'd been

831
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: given a ten year sentence, but they moved it down

832
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: to six and apparently served it. And where he went

833
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: after is anybody's guests. There's no record of anything after that.

834
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: He would likely have been forgotten were it not for

835
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: Marcel Proust.

836
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: Why Marcel Pruce, Captain of Memories.

837
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: He was so himself because yes, he was so fascinated

838
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: by what he called, quote the prestige of a momentary diamond,

839
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: that he wrote about the whole fiasco in a series

840
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: of pieces for La Figaro. Oh yeah, February March of

841
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: nineteen eight.

842
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so he was doing like deep magazine dives.

843
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he wrote and then he wrote this book

844
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: of creative nonfiction. Yeah. It was collected in a book

845
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: called The Lemoin Affair that, according to its Penguin Books summary,

846
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: was quote inspired by the real life French scandal involving

847
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: aure Lemoit, who claimed he could manufacture diamonds from coal

848
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: and convinced numerous people, including officers of the De Beer

849
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 3: Diamond Company and Proust himself, to invest in the scheme.

850
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 3: In a series of pastiche imitations written in the style

851
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: of other writers, Pruce tells the story of the embarrassment

852
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: rippling across high society Paris in the wake of the scandal,

853
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: poking fun at himself. In one story, a character declares

854
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: that Marcel Preuss is so embarrassed he's suicidal, while lampooning

855
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: some of France's greatest writers, including Flaubert Balzac and San Simon.

856
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: H interesting, so he seems like a literary exercise.

857
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: He's like, this is fantastic.

858
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: I love the magic.

859
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: I love it that I fell for it.

860
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the biggest one. I almost killed myself.

861
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: And what of sir Julius, what of sir Jay Well,

862
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: Sir Julius died. I mean, we all do. But he

863
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 3: did it in nineteen twelve. In nineteen fourteen, he wasn't.

864
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine he was yet agen.

865
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 3: In nineteen fourteen, his estate was valued at more than

866
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: fifty seven and a half million, which was at the

867
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: time was the record for South African businessmen. That's one

868
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: point eight billion today. In two thousand, Christie's auctioned off

869
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: his silver collection and they described it as quote the

870
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: late Medieval and Renaissance silver a mass decades ago by

871
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: a diamond millionaire, Julius Werner. The New York Times wrote,

872
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: quote the collection was a mixed bag which included outright fakes.

873
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: A beaker in the form of an owl with a

874
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: body made from a coconut, fitted with silver gilt head,

875
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: wings and legs, looked like a spoof of late Renaissance silver.

876
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: Another vessel shaped as a parrot perched on branch was

877
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: just as unconvincing. Several other pieces of that ilk peppered

878
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: the catalog. Trickier than outright fakes were pieces that gave

879
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: the impression of having been tampered with. A German cup,

880
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: made from a turbo shell with parcel gilt mounts, was

881
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: topped by a monster head that clashed with it and

882
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: failed to convince connoisseurs, such as the London dealer Charles Truman,

883
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: formerly of the Victorian Albert Museum. The catalog dated the

884
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: object circuit to sixteen thirty it made one hundred and

885
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: sixty eight, seven hundred and fifty pounds. Did the buyer

886
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: choose to ignore the problem raised by the cover? Possibly?

887
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: Other buyers were certainly willing to buy nineteenth century imitations

888
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: described as such by Christie's at the price of an

889
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: authentic piece. The coconut and silver gilt owl mentioned above

890
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: went up to a staggering one hundred and two thousand pounds,

891
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: and the parrots sold for thirty two nine hundred pounds.

892
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: Nor were those isolated cases. An Ostrich, estimated by Christie's

893
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: to be worth three thousand pounds to five thousand pounds,

894
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: climbed to ninety one thousand, seven hundred and fifty pounds.

895
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: It was as if esthetic perception had ceased to function.

896
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: Great kicker that he's been a of like.

897
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Being snarked on by the New York Times. Yeah, God bless.

898
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: But here's my thing is, does that not also scream

899
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: money laundering to you?

900
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: I'm just about to say any time you hear about that.

901
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I still buy that.

902
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't care.

903
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're just doing it to like the estate, right,

904
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: So are they trying to curry favor?

905
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: I don't know.

906
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, and that was like, you know, that's

907
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: in the year two thousand, so oh right, so this

908
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: is like descendants of.

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00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: His Yeah, doesn't that it's I don't you.

910
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: Know what I'm taking just like Diamond, just like him

911
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: back in the day. I'm taking a step back. Yeah,

912
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it seems hanky.

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00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: It does seem hanky.

914
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to go investigate the laboratory, Zaren, what's your

915
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: ridiculous takeaway?

916
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: I love like this whole story. It reminds me of

917
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 5: the Prestige, the story about the magicians, and then around

918
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 5: this period of time. I love this time because it's

919
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 5: people are scientific, but they're not quite to the level

920
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 5: of science. They can always prove everything, but yet they're

921
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: so into it that they can be both conned but

922
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 5: also convince themselves because science and magic have not quite

923
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 5: separated yet. So there's still in like a medieval Renaissance

924
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 5: period of thinking where it's like, well, you know, da

925
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 5: Vinci had a way to make gold out of like,

926
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 5: they can be told anything as long as it has

927
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: the patina of science on its exact Really, it's always

928
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 5: still just magic underneath, and magic is ultimately a con

929
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 5: well I.

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00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 3: Love so magical and it's and especially if you don't

931
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: quite understand the whole thing, how quickly things happen or

932
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: you know, things seem incongruous and then it comes together.

933
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 5: It's intoxicated, and then Einstein comes along in nineteen fifteen.

934
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: It just makes everything like we don't know anything, but

935
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: trust me, it's still magical.

936
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: Exactly.

937
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: So that's ridiculous.

938
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: Take on exactly good one. I need to talk back Dave,

939
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: please and thank you.

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00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Oh God, I love you.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Zaron, Hi, Elizabeth High Team. I just got off

942
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 6: of listening to your re release of an episode where

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Speaker 6: you talk about Jack Shepherd and Spittlesville, and I wanted

944
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 6: to come and let you know that my parents live

945
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: in the town of slate Lick, which is in western

946
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania and is named after deer licking salt off of

947
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 6: the road. They licked the slate and they got to

948
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 6: be in the name slate Lick, Pennsylvania.

949
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: Look it up a little fun fat.

950
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 5: Yes, one of the greatest states.

951
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: In the nation.

952
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: That's a great way to name a place.

953
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: That's more things should be named after animals licking.

954
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not like you know, Pleasant Valley.

955
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: That's not pleasant or like pig knuckle.

956
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: I feel about it. That's what happens. The deer lick

957
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: the salt. Hooray for them there, thank you. That's my takeaway.

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Speaker 3: That's us for today. You can find us online at

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous Crime dot com. Zarah, I have good news for you.

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Speaker 3: us at Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com and then

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