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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocuslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Maya is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Aaron.

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Speaker 2: So in a second we're going to call him and

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Speaker 2: see fields house why is a ghostinger? And maybe get

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Speaker 2: her another date if she still wants one. But first, Maya,

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Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Aaron?

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Speaker 3: It's been a month?

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Speaker 1: Oh, a long time.

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Speaker 4: Why do you want to get a hold of him

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Speaker 4: if it's been a whole month?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just really felt like we had a really

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Speaker 3: good connection, you know what. The conversation was really effortless,

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Speaker 3: and we had a lot in common, and he just

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Speaker 3: felt really special. And you know, it's kind of hard

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Speaker 3: to find that some nowadays, you know, and like hard

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Speaker 3: to meet people and it's hard to really feel that

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Speaker 3: gimuine connections. Both I thought it was special and I

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Speaker 3: wish you're thinking about him.

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Speaker 1: Have you tried to reach out to him in this time?

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Speaker 5: I have.

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Speaker 3: I reached out to him three times, but I haven't

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Speaker 3: urged that.

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Speaker 1: What do you say when you reach out?

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Speaker 3: Well, first time, it was like, oh, I had a

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Speaker 3: great time. It was it was really great getting to

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Speaker 3: know you'd like to see you again. And then the

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Speaker 3: second time it was pretty much the same, like oh,

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Speaker 3: just you know, just reach out again, you know, just

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Speaker 3: seeing how you're doing. And then the third time I

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Speaker 3: was kind of concerned for his well being because I

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Speaker 3: was like, well, maybe something happened to him, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I was just he was okay.

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Speaker 1: But I still haven't heard anything, and why don't you

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Speaker 1: tell us about the date? How did all of that go?

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Speaker 3: It was crazy.

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Speaker 4: We met this really cool jazz bar and it was

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Speaker 4: a really romantic atmosphere and we both were both really

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Speaker 4: into music, so you know, we were listening to music

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Speaker 4: and talking about the music, and then we just really clicked.

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Speaker 3: We sho had a few dreams. We had this really

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Speaker 3: nice little boose, so it was really easy to talk

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Speaker 3: and that's about our work of traveling and our where

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Speaker 3: we want to go, like what places we want to

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Speaker 3: go to, and we talked about uh, you know, our

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Speaker 3: pets and our passions and it was really just great

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Speaker 3: and he was really funny. He was making me laugh,

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Speaker 3: and it just kind of felt like we known each

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Speaker 3: other for years, you know, and we did uh we

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Speaker 3: did share a kids at the end of the night,

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Speaker 3: which I usually don't do, but I was was going

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Speaker 3: so well.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you sound so giddy right now just

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Speaker 1: reliving it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I could just really help for him,

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Speaker 3: you know. And then and it was a really kiss,

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Speaker 3: do you know like too? I think so, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I I think he I think he did, you know,

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Speaker 3: could be in his eyes and and and he and

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Speaker 3: he said, you know, I had a really great time

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Speaker 3: and I'd like to see you again, and just and

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Speaker 3: just really know just the way that uh, the kiss, well,

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Speaker 3: you know it was you know, it started out we

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Speaker 3: cut tentative, and then it got you know, we got

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Speaker 3: so you know, so so naturally you just kind of

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Speaker 3: figure out the angles and everything, and.

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Speaker 1: It just why do you think you're getting ghosted?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Okay, this is embarrassing. But you know, he was

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Speaker 3: really funny, and he was you know, you know, just.

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Speaker 6: Like cutting jokes the whole night and cracking me up.

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Speaker 6: I love a guy with st of humor, you know.

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Speaker 6: And he made this one that's really funny joke and

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Speaker 6: high laughed so hard, like some snatching out of my mouth.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw it. He was kind

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Speaker 6: of looking away, but it was kind of it was

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Speaker 6: dark in the clubs, so maybe he didn't see it

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Speaker 6: and I worked into its real quick. But uh, maybe

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Speaker 3: Maybe he was like, oh, like.

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Speaker 1: A little embrassing. I mean, I wouldn't go somebody for that,

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Speaker 2: I just take it as a compliment that I made

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Speaker 2: them laugh so hard that they couldn't control their snot.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so cute. Yeah, all right, welcome, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if we can figure it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song, come back, and then call him

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Speaker 2: and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh, thank you, I appreciate it. Pla us on

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Speaker 1: come back and get your first day follow up next.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of today's first Day follow up,

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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us, Maya is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Aaron. So

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Speaker 2: we're about to call him and see if he'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why he's Ghostinger and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 2: But first, Maya, why don't you refresh everybody's memory about

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Speaker 2: your date with Erin.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, well it was really great. We met up

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Speaker 3: at this really nice jazz bar. We heard some great music,

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Speaker 3: we had a booth, was a really nice intimate date,

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Speaker 3: and we had a nice conversation and he was really

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Speaker 3: funny and we really hit it off, being a lot

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Speaker 3: in common, and we even had a really nice kids

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day. And I'll would love

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Speaker 3: to see him again. And I even texted him a

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Speaker 3: few times and I just never heard anything back. And

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Speaker 3: it's been a out of months.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A little nervous then, alrighty, and you think the reason

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Speaker 2: you're getting ghosted is because you blew us, not rocket.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that she just a little came out, which

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Speaker 1: she's laughing. Big different.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. I'm gonna dollas one number.

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Speaker 2: Hello him, I speak to Aaron. Please.

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Speaker 3: This is Aaron.

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Speaker 2: Aaron, Hey man, how are you? My name is Jewbell.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jebel Show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Aaron, I'm Nina also on the show. Hey, and

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Speaker 1: I'm Victoria. How many people know this? Three?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay, and it's a radio show. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you heard that part. I did. Okay, have you ever

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Speaker 1: listened to the show before?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Sometimes on my way to work?

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool? Have you ever heard of first State follow

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Speaker 2: up before? I? Yeah, I guess okay, that's good. Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what erin?

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Speaker 3: I'm on it.

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Speaker 1: You are now the star of one.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea who would email us about you?

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Speaker 5: I might have an idea.

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Speaker 3: I don't really date many people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who do you think? It is?

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Speaker 5: Probably Maya?

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Speaker 1: Guess what erin? You're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 2: My emailed us and told us about your date, and

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Speaker 2: she wants to know why your ghost would you tell us?

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it's kind of crazy timing. So I have

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Speaker 5: real bad anxiety and I'm kind of working through it

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Speaker 5: with my therapist, and we actually in my last session

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Speaker 5: just talked about Maya, And you know, I feel bad

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Speaker 5: for not reaching out and possibly hurting her feelings. But I,

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Speaker 5: you know, I try to. I find myself figure on

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Speaker 5: her text messages, but I just I just can't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So your therapist is helping you with that, Like,

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Speaker 1: do you think that you're going to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Was that part of the plan?

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 5: I just haven't been able to you know, preset call button.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you just care call her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 5: And now it's been about a month and it just

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Speaker 5: makes things a little worse. And now I'm on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's good timing though, because maybe this will put

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Speaker 1: you in a position to not have to worry about

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Speaker 1: what to say because she wants to know why you're

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Speaker 1: not calling it.

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Speaker 3: I guess that helps.

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Speaker 1: Is that anxiety or what? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I fear of rejection, I guess is what my

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like I said, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Really date much, so when I do date Aaron, have

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Speaker 2: you ever heard of the term cognitive behavioral therapy?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, okay, cool, Well I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 1: what it is.

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Speaker 2: So cognitive behavioral therapy is when if you have like

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Speaker 2: a fear of something, they put you in that situation

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Speaker 2: then you can start to relieve that fear. So like

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Speaker 2: if you're scared of jumping into water, does take you

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Speaker 3: That sounds terrifying.

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Speaker 2: And the reason that I bring that up to explain

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Speaker 2: and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 7: So okay, hey, it's good to hear your sorry, you know,

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Speaker 7: well hearing your reason.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it makes sense, and it doesn't make me

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Speaker 6: are you just gonna want to see me or embarrassing myself?

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Speaker 3: No, but it's more of the opposite.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have you know, I care about you or

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Speaker 5: I have strong feelings and I'm not sure how to

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I care about you too, and I understand.

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Speaker 3: Just you know, it did really hurt my feelings when

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Speaker 3: I never heard anything from you, and then I know,

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Speaker 3: very hard to work through, you know. I sometimes I

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Speaker 3: think it can be an excuse, you know, not to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or

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Speaker 3: Just you know, so is it an excuse?

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Speaker 5: I mean no, No, I really liked you. I really

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Speaker 5: like you, and i'd like to, you know, hang out.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's tough. Oh, I understand, and I don't

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Speaker 3: want to do too and be awkward. I didn't think

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Speaker 3: you're awkward at all. When we had our date. I

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Speaker 3: thought it was great and the conversation was great, and

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Speaker 3: you were really charming and funny and and i'd like

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Speaker 3: to see you again. And I'm willing to work with you,

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Speaker 3: you know, and the understanding seeing how much I was saying.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to go out with mya again, We'll

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Speaker 1: pay for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, you look at that.

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Speaker 1: That's exciting.

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Speaker 2: You got a second date, Maya, and we hear to

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Speaker 2: Aaron's fear of rejection.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 5: Maybe I should pay you guys.

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Speaker 1: Will's first date follow up