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Speaker 1: You heard it live a short time ago. President Biden

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Speaker 1: the burdens that they're putting on voting in other ways.

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Speaker 1: June we have less than a minute. But the other

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Speaker 1: big story today is well, what didn't happen? No retirements announced.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I have to say, I am not

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Speaker 1: surprised because I thought from the way that Justice Brier was.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he hired new clerks for next term.

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Speaker 1: He really in that speed. She gave it at Harvard.

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Speaker 1: He seemed to say politics shouldn't be involved in in

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court jurisprudence and Supreme Court anything. So it seemed

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Speaker 1: to me as if he was giving off signals almost

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to bow to the enormous pressure

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Speaker 1: that you know, Democrats and particularly progressive Democrats put on him.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brier retired those big billboards and everything. So

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. But this is why you listen to Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Law to night. June could have told you, June Grasso,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm Joe Matthew. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg you Sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time with us on Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to sound On as we focus on this ruling

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Speaker 1: on voting rights today from the Supreme Court. As we

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Speaker 1: discussed with June Grasso, the Court today ruling right down

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Speaker 1: the middle six three that Arizona did not violate the

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Speaker 1: landmark Voting Rights Act. In this decision that provides legal

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Speaker 1: cover for Republicans as they push for new rules around

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Speaker 1: the country ahead of the two elections that we're joined

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Speaker 1: by the Panel I want to hear from both Rick

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Speaker 1: and Genie on this Bloomberg Politics contributors Genie she in

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Speaker 1: Zano and Rick Davis. Genie, this, I guess was no

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Speaker 1: surprise to see it come down six to three. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a surprise. We have to remember this was the

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Speaker 1: first year, the first Supreme Court term with three Trump

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Speaker 1: appointees on the bench. M Amy Corney Barrett the last

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Speaker 1: to to go on. She is not the person who

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Speaker 1: granted certain most of these cases, but she certainly has

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Speaker 1: had an impact. And of course this is a really

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Speaker 1: really important day in American history because now following the

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Speaker 1: Shelby decision in you see the Supreme Court really essentially

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Speaker 1: gutting as you and June were talking about, this last

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Speaker 1: remaining stalwarts section of the Voting Rights Acts, section two,

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Speaker 1: which means if Congress doesn't act to pass a voting

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Speaker 1: rights bill, and that's a big if, it doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like the Court is going to step been when these

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Speaker 1: states and localities passed restricted voting rights, and so that

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Speaker 1: creates a real challenge. I mean, I'm thinking we're looking

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Speaker 1: at July four in a few days. This is a

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Speaker 1: time we celebrate American independence and the right to vote

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Speaker 1: is critical for that independence. Rick, there's no chance that

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen in the legislature. Isn't no chance?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm sure it needs to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably the one person you'll talk to today who's

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Speaker 1: actually run elections in Arizona. And I can tell you

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Speaker 1: right now the two provisions that were taken before the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, ballast harvesting and and voters who vote outside

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Speaker 1: their precinct are not Voting Rights Act issues. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like you got to really get it down into the

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Speaker 1: nitty gritty. Do we really want people going door to

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Speaker 1: door knocking on voters houses and getting their ballots and

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Speaker 1: collecting them and then turning them into a voting location.

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Speaker 1: Um uh? In mass it's just a really bad idea.

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Speaker 1: It's called ballot harvesting. It's not allowed in virtually any state.

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Speaker 1: Normally you have to designate somebody to be able to

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Speaker 1: pick up your ballot and they have to be a

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Speaker 1: member of your family or something like that in other states.

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Speaker 1: So I I completely applaud what the Supreme Court did

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Speaker 1: because allowing people to go outside their precincts, why do

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Speaker 1: we have precincts if we're gonna allow people to vote

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Speaker 1: anywhere they want to vote, and so I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: there's like so many big implications. Believe me, I've I've

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Speaker 1: spent most of my career with John McCain doing campaign

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Speaker 1: finance reform and ballot issues, and a practical political consideration

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Speaker 1: here is, don't we want some rules that govern how

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Speaker 1: we vote? Justice Alito Rick said that that this mere

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Speaker 1: inconvenience line has really seemed to get a lot of

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Speaker 1: people's attention, not enough reason to win validate voting rules.

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Speaker 1: What are what are communities of colors supposed to make

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Speaker 1: of that? You know, I I don't think it's even

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Speaker 1: considered a inconvenience to require people to make arrange if

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Speaker 1: they can't get to a ballot a polling place, or

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Speaker 1: they can't mail their ballot themselves. Is it really an

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Speaker 1: inconvenience to to find someone within the rules of the

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Speaker 1: state who can deliver your ballot. I mean, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about a very small percentage of people who simply cannot

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Speaker 1: do one of the two things that are allowed in

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Speaker 1: Arizona in this case, and that is to mail your

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Speaker 1: ballot or to actually drop it off in a designated location,

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Speaker 1: and so you know again, I mean, I think there

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Speaker 1: are huge issues related to these laws passed by these

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Speaker 1: states about constraints on voting. This is not one of them.

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Speaker 1: Is there a move here for the White House, Genie

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Speaker 1: for Democrats in Congress, knowing what just happened with an

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Speaker 1: attempt at legislation there is It is going to put

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Speaker 1: a lot of energy behind moving forward one of these

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Speaker 1: two bills. And I just want to go back on

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Speaker 1: what Rick said. I think it's important to remember when

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Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts wrote the decision in Shelby, he upheld

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Speaker 1: section two. He said, keep it in place. Strike down five,

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Speaker 1: keep two in place. We protect voting rights by allowing

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Speaker 1: people to litigate after the fact. The problem this this ruling.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree on the specifics of the Arizona law.

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Speaker 1: The problem with this ruling is the burden is now

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Speaker 1: on the challenger. The standard is so high now to

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Speaker 1: challenge laws. It's going to be incredibly difficult to challenge

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Speaker 1: them and get those overturned. And that's why I think

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Speaker 1: there is going to be wind behind more than there

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Speaker 1: otherwise would have been if the Court had gone another way.

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Speaker 1: Some movement in Congress, because now the only hope for

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Speaker 1: people who feel they've been discriminated against that state and

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Speaker 1: local level is going to be a federal law because

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Speaker 1: obviously the federal courts, if they follow this decision, and

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Speaker 1: they will, are not going to find any comfort in

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Speaker 1: the federal courts under Section two, which has largely been gutted. Now, Jennie,

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Speaker 1: are you disappointed that we did not get a retirement announcement? Today?

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Speaker 1: Justice Stephen Bryer carries them. I have to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's very hard to push somebody to retire. I am

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Speaker 1: one of those people who call them Justice Ginsburg to retire.

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Speaker 1: She obviously didn't. She wrote a famous descent in Shelby.

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Speaker 1: Now we're facing brier Um. You know, I do think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it is very tough to have these people

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Speaker 1: stay this long. But I have a hard time telling

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Speaker 1: somebody personally when they should retire. I'm not certain that

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Speaker 1: that call for those retirements didn't work against it. He's

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Speaker 1: not the kind of person who's going to listen to that.

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Speaker 1: Ye would you, Rick? Uh No? I think that the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court should be immune from these kinds of political shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: And I would say that there's another way to change

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Speaker 1: these laws, and that elections have consequences. In the Arizona case,

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Speaker 1: where the state Senate and State House or within a

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Speaker 1: couple of votes of one another politically, um, if if

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Speaker 1: that changes and Democrats take over, they write the rules

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Speaker 1: related to this, to this election or to these election laws.

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Speaker 1: And so that is the proper place to litigate election

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Speaker 1: rules is on a state by state basis. It's called federalism.

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Speaker 1: It's been a backbone of how we run our elections.

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Speaker 1: It's not by are going to Congress or by being

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Speaker 1: able to try and get the bench to litigate Jennie,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about voter I D for a minute. Since

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Speaker 1: we're on this topic. It's been suggested recently that Democrats

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Speaker 1: of softening the edge when it comes to something that

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Speaker 1: and they should be softening to it. There's no reason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna date myself here. But if you

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Speaker 1: went in to get a video at the video store,

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Speaker 1: or you went in to get you going now to

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Speaker 1: get a book at the book at the library, you

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Speaker 1: need some kind of I D most American supportive voter

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Speaker 1: I D. I think Democrats should warrant to that. I

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Speaker 1: even think that they should support this, you know, this

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Speaker 1: for the People Act. I think hr one s when

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Speaker 1: they go too far. But I want to push back

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Speaker 1: a little bit on what Rick has said. I agree

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Speaker 1: with him that you resolve these questions in a legislature.

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Speaker 1: But their prerequisite for that as you're able to have

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Speaker 1: a fair and transparent voting system that doesn't discriminate against

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Speaker 1: people on the basis of race, sex, under or anything else.

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Speaker 1: And that is the problem here. You do have states

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Speaker 1: and localities that are passing legislation that is discriminatory, and

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Speaker 1: that's the problem Rick. Would it help the ODDS to

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Speaker 1: handle this legislatively if Democrats used voter i D as

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Speaker 1: a more effective bargaining chip. Yeah. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: really interesting debate. Um. You know, we've gone through so

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Speaker 1: many cycles on voter I D where Republicans were suspicious

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Speaker 1: Now Democrats are anxious about it. And I do think

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Speaker 1: it's actually worth a national discussion about because if the

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Speaker 1: Democrats could put it in play, I mean something as

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Speaker 1: simple as what we've talked about in the past is

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Speaker 1: on these COVID vaccinations. It would be nice to be

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Speaker 1: able to track all this stuff and in some kind

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Speaker 1: of a database, and right now we don't even have

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Speaker 1: a facility to do that on a national basis. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's time to crack open this debate and

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Speaker 1: see where it stands. Bloomberg political contributors Genie she and

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Speaker 1: Zano and Rick Davis with us today on Bloomberg Sound On.

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Speaker 1: In our remaining moments, I want to look ahead to

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. We've got a big day here tomorrow, the

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Speaker 1: jobs report coming out. Obviously it'll be an hour before

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Speaker 1: the bell, but we're looking at this through the prism

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Speaker 1: of politics. Here the Labor Secretary is ready to go,

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Speaker 1: and we know that the president is going to be

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Speaker 1: speaking about this. Genie, why well, this this is big

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Speaker 1: because the last few months the numbers haven't been quite

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Speaker 1: what they wanted or so what if they're not tomorrow

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Speaker 1: He's he's already got a speech, he's got a speech

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Speaker 1: schedule that you know, it's a little bit dicey, but

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Speaker 1: I think they are feeling confident, and of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: if the numbers are what they're hoping and thinking they

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Speaker 1: of credit for it. And I would say, as we

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Speaker 1: look at your discussion about you know that the tax

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Speaker 1: around the world as corporate tax, Janet Yellen has I think,

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Speaker 1: able to negotiate and work things that I think people

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Speaker 1: didn't expect. So they do have some things in this

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Speaker 1: realm to celebrate. What do you think about that Ricky

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Speaker 1: schedule to speed before you know the number? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think he's got to give a speech no matter what

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Speaker 1: the number is, because his entire economic land is starting

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Speaker 1: to rest on these jobs numbers from the past. So

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Speaker 1: you got it, yeah, exactly, you got speech one good news,

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Speaker 1: Speech two good news is even worse. So I think

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Speaker 1: he's got to lean in. He's got a huge amount

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Speaker 1: of work to do on Capitol Hill to get these

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Speaker 1: big trillion dollar packages pass, and no matter what this

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Speaker 1: job's report is, he's got to lean in on it

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Speaker 1: and try to sell it hard tomorrow because you know,

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Speaker 1: the narrative Genie is going to be if the number

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Speaker 1: is not good, jobless recovery echoes to the recovery during

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration. That's right, and it's going to make

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Speaker 1: him that much harder for him to push for the

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Speaker 1: big kind of reconciliation bill he wants on something like infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be hard for him to get his

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Speaker 1: legislative agenda through, so he's gonna have to do, to

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Speaker 1: Rick's point, have two speeches ready that make the case

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Speaker 1: got one more tomorrow again. Join us for more on Jobs,

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