1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: so please subscribe or. 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna make o Jo crack. 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: We got to talk about your team. The Bengals want 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: the finger at Shamir Shamar Stewart's Shamar Stewart's agent over 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: the contract drama. First, Bengals Director of Player Personnel Duke 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Tobin pointed the finger at Stuart's representation. He needs to 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: be here. I would encourage him to be here. He's 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: listening to advice. He's paying from it for his agent. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: I don't understand the advice. We're treating him fairly. No, 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: you're not. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: No, you're not. 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: Nobody else put that language in the contract that if 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: you have a conduct detrimental all future guaranteed could be voided. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 2: You do realize that, if I'm not mistaken, I think 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: the way they do it now to guarantee the first 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: round of the money is guaranteed. So, in other words, 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: he has a slip up this year, next year, the 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: year after, and the year after money could potentially be voided. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Are they out of their mind. 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: That is the reason why you have an agent, is 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: that you're supposed to take advice from the agent. You 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: didn't because see they want to take advantage. Oh, we 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: are we treating him fairly? No you're not. No, you're not. 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: Nobody else does this. Y'all trying to be slick and 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: they know they're starting dangerous. You gotta be careful with 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: president ojo precedent because now they're gonna try everybody. You 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: start doing that, everybody go, try to start to slip 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: that in there. Nah, you're not finna do that. If 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: you want to punish me for something I did this year, 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: by all means. But to take all the future guaranteed 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: when the contract is more time than not is guaranteed. 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely not oyo. 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying. 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: Obviously, I don't like the hypothetical that was used in 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: the situation, being that if you in prison and Mike 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: Brown saying if just so happened, he goes to prison, 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: I shouldn't have to pay him for that matter. I 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: think it should be a year to year thing. I 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: think the agent should have come to that conclusion a 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: very long time ago, based on yearly listen, year one. 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: If something happens that detrimental conduct detrimental to the team, 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: then money for that specific year should not have to 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: be paid. There should be some type of penalty where 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: the players, not the player, that the owners can protect 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: themselves and not having to play. But what's fair is fair, 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: and what I think what they're trying to do is 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 4: not fair. They're trying to set a precedent a certain 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: president that if Shamar Stewart the first one, then everyone 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: else it's a copycat league. If one team does it 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: and a Shamar Stewart and his agent allow it to happen, 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: then it would be a trickle effect and everyone else 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: will start implementing that and setting the president as well. 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: Then owner Mike Brown said, it's not about money, it's 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: about guarantee. In this case of if he were to 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: do something contrary to the discipline levels of the league. 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to ever happen. That's what's 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: holding it up. It's never happened as long as I 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: can remember. His agent wants it to be if he 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: acted in a terrible fashion. 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: This is all hypothetical. 64 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: Something that rides to the level of him going to prison, 65 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: we'd be on the line for the guarantee. 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it works. 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. But but oh Joe, but guess what they want 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 2: to be at a situation if we cut you, even 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: if I got guaranteed money, I cut you, I ain't 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: gotta pay you. 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: That's what guaranteed me. 72 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Hold on. If I the only one to understands what 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: the word guaranteed mean, do choke. Yeah, that's how it works. 74 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: You don't. 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: You don't get you don't get to determine that. Well, 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: you did something year one, Now we're gonna punish you 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 2: year two, year three, year four. Ah, Bro, that don't 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: work like that. Yeah, I mean if it goes if 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: it goes to arbitration, you know. He and that's what 80 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: we have. We have an independent arbiter and they hear 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: both sides and if they say, okay, okay, I can. 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Live with that. 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: But for you to me to just give you that 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: kind of control, just give up that absolutely, no way 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: in hell would I ever do that. 86 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: And he said, it's not about the money. It is 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: about the money. 88 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Guarantee is about guaranteed money. 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: Definitely about the money. 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: But listen, e shoose me Shamar Stewart and his representation 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: are in a tough spot. The Bengals of Browns and 92 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 4: Mike Brown, Katie and Douketobin, they're also in a tough spot. 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: I would love for the matter of resolved training campus 94 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: or started. The rookies have already reported, so he's actually 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: missing time, valuable time where I think he can come 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: in and make a difference based on what I've seen 97 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: on film. You know with college tape, he can come 98 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: in and make a difference. Our defense was very bad 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: last year. We need all hands on deck. We need 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: all hands on deck based on how we as a 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: team and organization start every goddamn season in a hole 102 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: having to dig ourselves and dig our way out of it. 103 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: The point of having the draft is the draft people 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: and draft players that we think we can benefit from 105 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: and help our team. And this situation right here is 106 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: not helping us in any way, shape, form of fashion 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: to reach the end goal. We all have the same 108 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: end goal we're trying to get to. Lombardi were trying 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: to be in San frank fucking Cisco come February week one, 110 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: and this is not the type of business and going 111 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: about doing so. I hope they get the matter resolved. 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: I'm sick of talking about it. You know, I'm sorry 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: for being a little frustrated. I'm a little passionate about 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: my team a little bit, you know. And listen, Shamar 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: Stewart has to do it right. His representation is doing 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: exactly what they should do. This is business. This is 117 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: the ugly side of business. I know, you want to 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 4: go out there and play football. I got drafted. I 119 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: finally achieved and reach my childhood dream of getting drafted 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: to an NFL team. 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: It just so happened. 122 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: Now the business gets in the way, the ugly side 123 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: of it, and you wonder why I had so much 124 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: fun while I was playing to get away from this 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: side this part, man, I hope, I hope it. 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: But you notice how the Bengals, now why not why 127 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: didn't the thirty other one of the teams did the hypotheticals? 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: You noticed how hypothetics do only happen to the Bengals. 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: If he were to go to prison or something, I 130 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: don't think that's going to happen. Just like they said, 131 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: oh this like he might best behave running fire with 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: the league. I don't think that's going to happen. Well, 133 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: if you don't think that's going to happen. Why you're 134 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: putting language in there? 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: I have an O question, an excuse you for my 136 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: lack of ignorance and lack of knowledge on his past history. 137 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: Does he have character issues or stuff that happened previously 138 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: in the past, but that that that I don't know about, 139 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: because that, to me, that would be the only reason 140 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: this specific player, these clauses would want to be implemented 141 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: into his contract. 142 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Because I thought you came in with a clean slate, 143 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: That's what they told us. Now I noticed now you 144 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this. You remember when 145 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: they Torail prior to Rail, Prior sold some of his 146 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: game war and stuff, the stuff that he got for winning. 147 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: The Big Ten championship Ohio State. He sold his jersey. 148 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: Now, this happened in college, and when he got to 149 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: the league, the league suspended him for five games. 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: I was outraised. 151 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: I said, how in the hell, since when can you 152 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: punish me for something? Oh, Joe, let's just say, for 153 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: the sake of argument, I'm a college kid and I get. 154 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: A d U. 155 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: I in college. I graduate college. He do an unbelievable job. 156 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: I graduate with honors. I get this job, and the 157 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: job tells me, well, we're gonna take too much salary 158 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: from you because you got a DUI that didn't have. 159 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Nothing to do when that I wasn't even on the job. 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Whatever Shamar's Summart Jamar, whatever he did or didn't do, 161 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: he didn't do it on the Bengals clock. How do 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you get to punish somebody for something they didn't do 163 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: when they didn't work for you. 164 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: But also, this is their entity, this is their business. 165 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: So when it comes to business, something that you do 166 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: know is businesses, they do everything they can, especially contractually, 167 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: to be able to protect themselves, justs in case what 168 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: you did back then, in case your past creeps in 169 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: while you're working. 170 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: For they have they put this in their contract? Is 171 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: this in Joe Burrow's contract? Is this in Chase his contract? 172 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: Was this in Anthony Munjos's contract? With this in Boomer 173 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: Scienzing's contract? Because this is the same ownership that's owned that. 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: So I need to know now, if this is what 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: they've always done. 176 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. 177 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: I might not like it, but if this is something new, 178 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be your test dummy. I'm not 179 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: going to be your guinea pig to start this President. 180 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: You can start it next year, but I will allow 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: allow you to start the precedent with me. 182 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 4: Oh hey, that's a good one. Hey, it's a tough spot. Hey, 183 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: I know fans of pissed, fans of piss hell. Can 184 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: you can you can tell the way I'm talking like, 185 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 4: I'm sick of talking about it because I want to 186 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: see young Bull in camp. But I also I see 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: both sides, for sure. I see both sides. Of course, 188 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 4: of course, me always having the side with it. I 189 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: got the side of the playoff. As much as I 190 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 4: love my Bengals, I got the side of the playoff. 191 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: More time than not. 192 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: I do too, O Joe. But I believe in right 193 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: is right, wrong is wrong, and I think that I 194 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: think the Bengals are wrong in this situation. And to 195 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: say you're receiving bad advice, that's why you, O Joe. 196 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Why would I hire financial advisor if I'm not gonna 197 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: listen to it somebody. I'm gonna give somebody millions of 198 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: dollars to invest my money and then they say, well 199 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: this is safe. It's not gonna give you twenty thirty 200 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: forty percent. But it's gonna give you a consistent six 201 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: to eight percent, because when you take those huge swings, 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: there's a chance, right, they don't hit. 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: This is safe. 204 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: Now, once you get to a certain level, you say, Okay, 205 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: I got a couple of extra dollars, I want to 206 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: put it in something here, a little more risky. 207 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna give me more bang for my buck, something 208 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: that can give me three x two x four x 209 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: five x. 210 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: But that's a huge risk because for every uber eats 211 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: or ring, there's something that does not hit. 212 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: See, they are all the ones. 213 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: We look at the big coins that we look at 214 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: the uber eats, and we look at the amazons. 215 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: But do you know how many companies have gone. 216 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: Belly up and that never the IPO net was was nothing. 217 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: Yes, thousans. 218 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: So that's the whole reason is that I listen, I 219 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: hired a guy for a reason. If I thought I 220 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: could do it on my own, I damn sure we'd 221 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: want to. Didn't care to give somebody three to four percent, 222 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: But I knew I couldn't do it on my own. 223 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: And then I didn't want to hear them talk some 224 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: BULLGEI because here I was taking these injections and giving 225 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: my all and you telling me I'm losing the step? 226 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Was I losing the step before or after I started 227 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: taking them injections? And I was out more than one 228 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: hundred percent? Out there? 229 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, speak speaking of that, Speaking of that, 230 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm glad you just said that. I'm so glad you 231 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: just said. Please tell me talk about that team that 232 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: we so called America's team based on the comments that 233 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: we said about sticks. 234 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna get that. We're gonna get to that. 235 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, Gods, you want to make sure we 236 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: got in the lineup now because he got a nerve 237 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: the audacity. 238 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: The Gold CBS Ports give their NFL Triplet ranking. The 239 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: Bengals Oh Joe are number one thanks to Joe Burrow, 240 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: running back Chase Brown's and Jamar Chase. The Philadelphia Eagles 241 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: are number two. Jalen Hurts, sa Kwan Barkley, AJ Brown, 242 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens are number three, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Zave Flowers, 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are number four, Jared Goff, gibbs On under Ross, 244 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Saint Brown, and rounding out the top five is the 245 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Isaiah Pacheco and Rashee Rice. Oh, okay, 246 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: we've got ten. Buffalo was number six, Josh Allen, James Cook, 247 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir Rams number seven, Matthew Stafford, Tyn Williams, Hooka Nakua, 248 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, thanks the Brock Purty, Christian McCaffrey, 249 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: George Kittle, number nine, Baker Mayfield, Bucker Irving, Bucky Irving, 250 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: Mike Evans rounding out the top ten Dak Prescott, Jafonte 251 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: Williams and c d lamb Ocho. 252 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, any objections? 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: You like it? Yeah? 254 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, as much as I love my Bengals, 255 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: there's no reason we should be number one. There's no 256 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 4: reason we should be number one. Number one should be 257 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles. Hey, listen, Number one should be the 258 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles. 259 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: Listen. 260 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 4: I love Chase Brown and obviously Joe Doug jis does 261 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 4: what it's not even close especially and obviously, and not 262 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: to be rude, not to be disrespectful, but where were 263 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: the Ravens again? 264 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: Ravens was three. 265 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 4: I would put the Ravens in front of it. I 266 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 4: would put the Ravens in front of in front of 267 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 4: the Bengals as well. 268 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: Hell, you could make a case Detroit should go in 269 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: front of the Bengals. 270 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: With with Gibbs, who was the three who was the 271 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 4: three for the for the Lions, Uh. 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: Jered gob Jamir Gibbs and. 273 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: Brown and listen, and that's inter changeable over there, you 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: can go Gibbs over on. 275 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 276 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: So I mean, if anything to be fair, I'd put 277 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: the Bengals maybe at four maybe five O Joe. 278 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: This is why I agree with you. And I'm saying 279 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: because I think the gap between the running backs, yes, 280 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: it's greater than the distance between Chase and say Alman 281 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown or Chase and A J. Brown or 282 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: Chase and and and and and and Zay Flowers. That's 283 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: that's that's why I think Bengal should be Look. Uh, 284 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: and there's not a gap. There's not that big of 285 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: a gap. If there is a gap between Lamar Jackson 286 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow. 287 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: No. 288 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to say, okay, Jalen Hurst doesn't 289 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: throw the ball, but that's not their offense. 290 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: It's not their game. 291 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: But Chase Chase, Chase Brown with the running back position. 292 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: And you're talking about Derrick Henry, talking about Sat Kwan 293 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: Barkley talking about Jamiir Gibbs. 294 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: No man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, listen. 295 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: As much as I love my bangles, I'm fair. 296 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be fair and I'm gonna be gott to 297 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: be I'm gonna be fair and I'm gonna be realistic. 298 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: Yes. Now, when you talk about Khalil Shakir and the 299 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: receiving position, I think that come on that Chase, that's 300 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: like Chase, that's like Brown with sa Kuan, Derrick, Henry, 301 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs. When you talk about Chase and Khalil Shakir. Yes, Now, 302 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: now we're onto something McCaffrey. It's kind of hard to 303 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: have forty nine event any higher for the simple fact 304 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: of help of McCaffrey. 305 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 306 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Bucks made it. The Bucks should 307 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: have made it. Yeah, sensational. Baker played extremely since he's 308 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: been in Tampa, Baker Mayfield has played extremely well. 309 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: Let's give credit where credits due. 310 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: I have no problem that he's found a home, he's 311 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: found someone that believed in it, and give him an 312 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: opportunity and he gets to be Baker Baker Mayfield, the 313 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield that we saw at Oklahoma. We get to 314 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: see this guy. Now, Yeah, the Cowboys, I don't really 315 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: have a problem. I don't have a what was the 316 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: running back before Javonte Williams got there? 317 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: Uh, well your guess as good as mine. 318 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Rick, o'dondell Okay, I look okay, ten Okay, 319 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys Dak, But Dak's coming out an injury. Also, Javontay 320 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Williams was now he's another year removed from that knee injury. 321 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: He didn't play very well as last year in Denver. 322 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: We understand CD y CD's there. 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, we'll talk, but the later on the season 324 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: get over. 325 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I agree with you, Ojo the Bengals. 326 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: It's just a mere fact that Chase the gap between 327 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: sa Quan Derrick Henry is a bigger gap between Jamar Chase, 328 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: aj Brown, Jamar Chase and Jason za Flowers. Yeah. Absolutely absolutely, 329 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: And so with that being said, yeah, and I get it. 330 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow had a history. He led the league and 331 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: passing touchdowns. Last year he led the league in passing yards. 332 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: And I understand Chase Chase won the triple Crown. Yes, 333 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: but how many yards did Chase Chase Brown have because 334 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: one guy had two thousand. 335 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Many then another guy had nineteen 336 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty one. 337 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: Right, and Jamiir Gibbs, even after splitting carries, probably had 338 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen hundred yards. 339 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: That's great imagining. 340 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: So I think the gap with the running back gap. 341 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: There's a bigger gap between the running back Saquon Barkley, 342 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: Dereck Henry, Jamir Gibbs, and Chase Brown. And there is 343 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: between Jamar Chase Zave Flowers, A J. Brown and I'm 344 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: in Ross Saint Brown. Yeah, that's just me, now, Chad. 345 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: I mean, y'all can have that it. Y'all can chop 346 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: it up. Y'all could agree or disagree with Ocho. And 347 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: I said, but had I think the Eagles, I would 348 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: I would put the Eagles one. I would put the 349 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: Ravens two. Now three and three. Now I'm having a 350 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm really having to think about three. And that's between 351 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: Detroit and Cincinnati, O Jo. 352 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: That's just me, honestly, because Detroit and this is no 353 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 4: district back to Chase Brown, good good running back. I'm 354 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: putting Detroit at three simply because they had that doubleheaded monster. 355 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: You could just pick who you want to go with. Yes, 356 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: the purpose may be they God damn Jamier Gibbson and 357 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 4: amn Ron golf is special, Yes, it's special. 358 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: How many yarths they Chase Brown had last year? Nine ninety? 359 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay he was ten from a thousand. One guy had 360 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: two thousand, the other guy had nineteen twenty one. Yeah, no, yeah, 361 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: look the bill. I don't I don't really have a 362 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: problem with anybody else that's on this list because we're 363 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: looking down. Okay, we looked down. Who else could could? 364 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 5: Uh? 365 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: The Texans with CJ. Stroud, Joe College, go Collins. 366 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: That's that's a good one. 367 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: Okay. Jacksonville Tank Bigsby, Brian Thomas Jr. Okay, you will 368 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: leave Trevor Lawrence. I okay, take him off. They got 369 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: a triple, but it doesn't it doesn't deserve to make 370 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: the top ten. Okay. What about Washington, Oh, Jane Daniels, 371 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: Terry mcclaurin, Robinson, Bryan Robinson. 372 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: They was twelve. 373 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: That's that. That's that's fair. That's fair. The Dolphins, you 374 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: got a chan you got Riek, you got tour. Yeah no, no, 375 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: not in front of the cowboys. You don't think you 376 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 2: don't think the. 377 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: Commanders from in front of the crowd in front of 378 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. 379 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I say. Yeah, I know I don't 380 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: think they should be a top five, but I'm. 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: Just saying, okay, okay, okay, I thought you were saying 382 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 4: top five like no. 383 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, Commander's nord. 384 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: The other team should be top five because although a 385 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: change inspected. No, the Commanders can't because Brian Robinson. Let 386 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: me see, would I take Brian Robinson over Chase Brown? 387 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, but I'm not taking over Saint Quan. I'm 388 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: not taking over there. I'm not taking them over Gibbs. 389 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: Hell no, yeah, I'm not taking it there and I'm 390 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: not and I'm not taking you know, I love Terry mclumin. 391 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: I'm not taking them over Za Flowers or A j 392 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: Or I'm ra I'm not. 393 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa slow down, slow down? 394 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: Got you taking over A J. 395 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: Brown? Hold on? 396 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: You say you're not taking Ted McLaurin over Saint Brown. 397 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: No, I don't think I'll take him over Saint Brown 398 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: because it's you know what else. 399 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. 400 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: It's hard Because one one play specifically outside, the other 401 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: is mainly inside, and so you look at Aman rah 402 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: arm and Ra had what one hundred and probably fifteen catches? Yeah, yeah, 403 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: he's he's customarily always over one hundred catches because he's 404 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: the slot. So what was it? What was his numbers? 405 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: I'm and raw, look you look up and Rob, look 406 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: up Terry McClure. That's that's interesting. 407 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: I know, I know, uh T Mac. I'mna call him 408 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 4: T Mac, call him T Max. I can't call him 409 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: scary Terry right now. I ain't call him scary Terry 410 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: until they pay. 411 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Him, Okay. Armen Rath was second and catches right fifty yards? 412 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: Third in touchdowns? What do you had in What do 413 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: you had in yards by? What? 414 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Twelve sixty three? 415 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: How many catches? Second in catches? One fifteen? God? Yes, 416 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: oh boy, the boy? 417 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: Hey theybe one hundred and fifteen passes? 418 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: No, that's another fifteen catcher. 419 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: He probably had one hundred and forty five to one 420 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty targets. 421 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: Hey, man, I'm trying. 422 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 4: I'm I wish, I wish I was able to do 423 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: the math. If you take my best season, whatever it 424 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: might have been, and you did the numbers based on 425 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: yards would catch. I think my highest my highest total 426 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: season catches like ninety seven. If I had one hundred 427 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: and fifteen catches, I wonder what my numbers would look like. 428 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: It's only a handful of guys gonna have that many catches. 429 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: With the deep crazy, you gotta look. So you got 430 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: to look at somebody like a moss. Yes, I mean 431 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: are you looking at I mean I'm talking about the 432 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: speed guy. A guy that's outside is catching the balls 433 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: like that. 434 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Man, They're gonna be sixteen seventeen hundred yards O show. 435 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: Because if you think about it, you averaging fifteen yards 436 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: of catch you average in your best season, when you 437 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: had sixteen hundred yards or high fifteens, you was averaging 438 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 2: fifteen yards of catch. So just imagine one hundred and ten, 439 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen, one hundred and twenty thirty catches. 440 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: Imagine imagine this during that time, me, TJ. Hoosh, Chris Henry, 441 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: imagine if we had what they have implemented in everybody's 442 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: game playing to day, those little quick screens, those little 443 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 4: bubble screens, bubble, those little quick passes where you know 444 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: they get it in your hands and let you do it. 445 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: You man. 446 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: Only handful of teams running that we started adopting that late, 447 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: like my last year or two in Denver. But prior 448 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: to that, the only team that really did that was 449 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: the Coats. Yeah, they were doing that. 450 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: What about the Rams? What about the Rams? That greatest Rams, 451 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 4: the Ram Rams. 452 00:22:53,480 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: The Rams kind of started it right with Isaac with Oak. 453 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: They would do it. 454 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: They would do it with Marshall fault that put Marshall 455 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: falk out and the no motion and throw it to him. 456 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: Hop call some of those Isaac, Bruce and then now 457 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: everybody just they'll just raise up and just throw the fault. 458 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: The guy, the guy bubble, he'll be in the slot 459 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: and he'll bubble back. 460 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: And they'll pop it to it. But it's it's a 461 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: different game now. Oh Joe, we had our time. We 462 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: played We played how we played it, because I can 463 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: assure you I heard Ozzie and Killing and all the 464 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: guys like, man, I'm sure we threw the ball like 465 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: y'all threw it today. 466 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you think we throw it? 467 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: Hell, I don't know if y'all seen Denver's offenset. A 468 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: whole lot of throwing going on. Yeah, but look, Beingles one, 469 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: Eagles two, Baltimore three, Detroit four, Kansas City five. I 470 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: would go Eagles one, Baltimore two. I agree with you. 471 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: I would go Detroit three, Kansas City four, Uh not 472 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: Kansas City Cincinnati. 473 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: And yeah, I was gonna say, I ain't putting the 474 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: Chaco in in front of us since oh. 475 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Hell na, right, that's that's my toss up. 476 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: My toss up is do I put Detroit three in 477 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: Sincy four? Or do I put Sincy three and leave 478 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: Detroit at four? 479 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: But two? 480 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: And but the Eagles and and Baltimore should be one two? Well, 481 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: hold on three. 482 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm doing Detroit at three and I'm putting the Bengals four. 483 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. That's what my toss up. 484 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: Heel, okay, okay, okay, listen. That's that's not even a 485 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: toss up for me. 486 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: That's a no brainer. 487 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a no brain on miam. But me no 488 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: brainer is Eagles at one, Baltimore two. 489 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 490 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah Cowboys. But you know, we talked about Washington, 491 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: we talked about hell well, no, they ain't got no quarterback. 492 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: And I think I know Atlanta and Atlanta didn't really 493 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: have the quarterback situation because I can't put that kind 494 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: of stock because I like Atlanta's running back and I. 495 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: Like Drake Loganjian is nice and Drake n I like. 496 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: I like Michael Pittman Jr. I like Jonathan Taylor. But 497 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm uncertain about their quarterback position. You see what I'm saying, 498 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: O Joe, Yeah, I'm not sure about Minnesota. I know Jetta, 499 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: I know Jones, but who's the quarterback? JJ McCarthy. I 500 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: ain't seen him throw, not one NFL pass. We just 501 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: we just saw with. 502 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: Why Why why am I drawing a blank on the quarterback? 503 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about for Minnesota? 504 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? From last year? Why am I drawing a blank? 505 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: In Seattle? 506 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: Now? Uh? 507 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: What Sam Donald? Sam Donald? Listen, we saw Sam Donald 508 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: in New York. Yeah, Okay, we saw Sam Donald. He 509 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: was somewhere else before he went to Minnesota. He's with 510 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: the Jets, he's with San Francisco Bingo. We saw what 511 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: he did with the Minnesota Vikings last year. Historic run, 512 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 4: historic season for him individually. Right, So you think J 513 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: McCarthy gonna come in and do but you got there justin. 514 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: Jefferson is still there. 515 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: He gonna be all right, hen. 516 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: Slanging that you ain't really gotta do much when you're 517 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: when you're a quarterback like that, even I it's gonna 518 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: be your first year playing. You're not a rookie. You're 519 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: going into your second year. But what's around you is 520 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: so great. All you have to do is just facilitate 521 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: the ball and don't make any mistakes. 522 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: That's but see, that's the thing. You see how you 523 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: have to play. You talk about don't make any mistakes. 524 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: Sam Sam Darnold had a historic season. Yes, Now the 525 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: thing is, plus he has some season, he was seasoned. 526 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: He understood this offense because it's a very similar offense 527 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: to what they run in San Francisco. So it's gonna 528 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: be interesting to see. But I understand why they didn't 529 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: put him up there because I understand Jones. I understand Jetta, 530 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure about the quarterback position, right, I'm 531 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: just not so. I mean, not the forty nine ers, 532 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: the Chargers, what about the Chargers, Ladd Conky, Justin Herbert. 533 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: They got Nigie Harris, but. 534 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: When he didn't have Nigie Harris, Now that's right, that's right. 535 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Jared Jones shows the opening training camp by taking a 536 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: shot at Michael Parsons. 537 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: Oh show, let's take a listen to what Jerry had 538 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: to say. 539 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to 540 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, 541 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: we've signed uh. I remember signing a player for the 542 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 5: highest paid at the position in the league and he 543 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: got knocked out two thirds of the year Dark Prescott. 544 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of things you can think about 545 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 5: when you just as the player does when you're thinking 546 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: about committing and guaranteeing money. 547 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: He just can't help himself. 548 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys fans, Dallas Cowboy players, this is your head coach. 549 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 4: This is your excuse me, head coach. Hey, this is 550 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 4: the man that he is the head coach, hu, this 551 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: is the man that the show. 552 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: This is the man. This let you know in short 553 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 3: term how they really feel about you. 554 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: After This is how they really feel about you. There's 555 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: nothing like getting taking a dig or taking a shot 556 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: at your two star players, your two star players. Oh well, 557 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: I made one of the highest paid but he missed it, 558 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: miss the season because of the injury. We play football, 559 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: it's a contact sport. It's a barbaric sports. Sometimes injuries 560 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: do happen. 561 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: I remember he made his I remember he made another quarterback, 562 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: the highest paid and he never took a shot of 563 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: him and he stayed injury. But that ain't none of 564 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: my business. I don't even know why I brought that 565 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: up about yo. 566 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: This is who you have to go out there and 567 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: play for. This is who you have to go. 568 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: I want to know if Tony Romo, your owner thinks 569 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: about you. 570 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: But we know that. 571 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: See. 572 00:28:59,640 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: See. 573 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: The thing is oh g see. 574 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: I remember in twenty sixteen when Colin nip oh, But 575 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: Jerry loves his players. Jerry loves people that look like 576 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: you and I that can do something for it. Don't 577 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: you fool yourself to the mistake that people make. Oh Jerry, No, 578 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: no, no no no no no no no no. Michael Levin 579 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: could do things for it. Daz Bryant can do things 580 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: for it. Emm Smith could do things for it. Charles 581 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: Haley could do things for it. Nate Newton, Larry Allen, 582 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: I could go on and on and on. Stop fooling yourself. Oh, 583 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: out of the kind and so your heart. 584 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I have a question, and this is for 585 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 4: the Chat, for the people in chat as well. If 586 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: you play for the Cowboys organization, how would you feel 587 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: as a player understanding that's how the man who runs 588 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 4: the shoe and writes your checks felt about you. 589 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: I already know how I feel about me. I've done 590 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: my home. 591 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: How does that does that even give you the motivation 592 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: even want to go out play for that man? Outside 593 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: of the money. 594 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. See what he is upset? 595 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: He's upset at Dak because Dak has always has imposed him. 596 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: Dak has already always been what it was. You're the owner, 597 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm the player. A lot of players get close to Jerry. 598 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Dak has never allowed that to happen. Todd Franz comes in, 599 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: does the negotiating, hard line boom, I'm up out of here, 600 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: that goes about his business. Dak ain't trying to go 601 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: to his house. Dak is not trying to go out 602 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: and hang out with him. Dak is that Dak does 603 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: what he does. Dak now has a family, boom business. 604 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: You see he taking the shot at Michael because Michael 605 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't let him, wouldn't let him glazing. Oh, oh, it's 606 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: between me and the player. You never did a deal 607 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: with just the player when the player had representation. But 608 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: you know what it's going to cost you because you 609 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: let Max Crosby get a new deal, You let Miles 610 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: Garrett get a new deal, You let TJ. 611 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: Watt get a big new deal. And guess what. 612 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons is three to four years younger and all 613 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: of them, so guess what he's about to do. 614 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: Pole vaudem So whatever TJ. 615 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: Wh got, Michael Parson's gonna get a million to two 616 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: million dollars more. And don't give me that junk. I 617 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: play in Texas. Oh well I do. I know the 618 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: ain't no state income tax and I'm glad for that. 619 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: So that's forty two forty three million. Uncle, say, I'm 620 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: going to go get thirty six percent of it those 621 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: state taxes. 622 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: Right, And I'm understanding. Obviously. 623 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to text Michael, I wanted to call him, 624 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 4: but I was like, you know what, I'm not even 625 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: gonna bother him. 626 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: Just say how you feel? How does that make you feel? 627 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm like croy oud that this is 628 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: my only thing my owner thinks about me. Now, what 629 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: about the time he missed some games? But I guarantee 630 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: you there's some games that he should have missed more 631 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: because I know Michael had some issues going on. But 632 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: that ain't nothing my business. I don't even know why 633 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: I brought that up again. Damn I keep telling people business. 634 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: You know how many times all of us have played 635 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: the game of football and went out there anyway. Yeah, 636 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: it had to take toward all pills, had to take, 637 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: had to take the shot. 638 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: Just and yeah for the same and the Marcaine Yeah, corterfone. Yes, 639 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 2: all that shooting up in your shoulders and then your knees. 640 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: Not why you shoot my kneither up? I shot my 641 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: ankles up, shot my shoulders up ribs did all that? O? 642 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: Yo? Did all that? 643 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: I mean, how do we not how do we not 644 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 4: understand and just have any self awareness where that's the 645 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: kind of stuff that you say to yourself. What you 646 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: never say out loud about the players that are on 647 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: your team. You don't say stuff like that out loud. 648 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: Had the nerves dead and in my ankles, so I 649 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: couldn't feel no pain the whole that that's what nerves do. 650 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: They allow you to feel pain, And says, okay, hey, 651 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: bro back off that I had my nerves, had my 652 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: nerves and my ankles deadn't so I couldn't feel pay 653 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: so I could go out there and play and then 654 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: to have somebody talk like that, man, please, I'd have 655 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: lost it. 656 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: I would have lost it. 657 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: Hey. 658 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 4: You know what's funny is when you think about the owners. 659 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 4: Obviously it's thirty two owners. I think Jerry is the 660 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: only one with the cohones to come out and say 661 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: how he really feels. 662 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: No one else would do that. 663 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: That's why would you what you saw today. 664 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: Nobody else why wouldn't but Jed Jerry. But see, that's 665 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: what Jerry wanted to be about him. See, Jared don't 666 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: want no superstar because you know why he want a 667 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: superstar because he would never take a Tom Brady. He 668 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: would never He couldn't play for Teyton Manny because they'd 669 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: be bigger than he is and he don't want that 670 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: to happen. Right, I've been bad fortune. I played for 671 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: two owners, mister Bowland. I did something for his his 672 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: his family today, Yes, sir, but Joe, it was about us. 673 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: We were the superstars. Jam amount of time, sharply, I 674 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: ain't catching no pass, shopper, I ain't making no tackles. 675 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: What the hell? 676 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: I need to be up there and talking and carry 677 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: it on. That's what I pay you guys for I said, 678 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: you play us quite well. I don't I don't get 679 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: why Jerry felt to open up training camp like this. 680 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 681 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: Everything that comes up doesn't need to come out right, but. 682 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: Michael or what you're thinking doesn't need to be said. 683 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 4: Every little thought, especially stuff that you know, is gonna 684 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 4: ruffle people's feathers. 685 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: Catch me the headlines. Hell, the only thing that should 686 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: be catching. 687 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 4: Headlines today is Cowboys open up training camp and George 688 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: picking looks motherfucking good. 689 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: Excuse my language, sorry, George Pickens look good. 690 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: Day one. 691 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: That's it. 692 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: That's what that should be the conversation, not what you 693 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 4: said about Dak what you said about Michael Man. 694 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: JJ Watt took to a Twitter excuse me x to 695 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: defend him. Anytime you can publicly take a dig, get 696 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: your star quarterback and your young star pass Russell simultaneously 697 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: right before the season begins, you gotta just take it. 698 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than 699 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while 700 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: fighting for you. 701 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Michael reposted that no discount for you. 702 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: Jerry, m Wait, hold on, hold on, what if what 703 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: if you think? 704 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 4: Excuse me? What if it even goes worse? What if 705 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 4: Michael says, you know that that's how you feel about me? 706 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: Trade men't trade? 707 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? 708 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: Then what. 709 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: It's the funny thing is funny. 710 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: I'm just finding out all about Jerry's ways because I 711 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 4: never played for the Cowboys, and obviously when I was playing, 712 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 4: you know, I'm i'm I'm I'm blind to what's going 713 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: on over there, but you don't want to introduce me 714 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: and told me about the whole thing with Jimmy Johnson. 715 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that raised my eyebrows. 716 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 4: But I thought, Okay, maybe that's just okay, maybe that's 717 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: just a one off. Maybe they just had a disagreement 718 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: and he not really liked that, but they got into it. 719 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: But he thought after three years, he thought, after he 720 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: hired eighty nine with Jimmy's first year, that's the year 721 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: he took over. He brought the I think bum bright. 722 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 2: I think that's where he brought the Cowboys from. So 723 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: he took over him and him and Jimmy and eighty 724 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: nine Constroy with their first draft pick. They won the 725 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: championship in four in ninety two, win it again in 726 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 2: ninety three, again in ninety five. So in four years, 727 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: so eighty nine, ninety ninety one, ninety two. So in 728 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 2: the fourth year, he thought he knew more football than Jimmy. 729 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: Now see Jimmy will see what Jimmy could do. Jimmy 730 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: was coming from college at the you so all these 731 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: guys is coming out yuess who knew him because he 732 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: tried to recruit him after you. Yeah, see Jerry think 733 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 2: because somebody handed him a piece of paper that they've 734 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: done all the work for. See, Jerry's that guy that 735 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: does no part of the project, but he gets eighth. 736 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 2: You ain't do nothing. You just happened to own the team. 737 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: You did nothing. Jimmy, the scouts, the evaluators, they did 738 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: all the work. It burned them. It burned them. 739 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: That Jimmy got the credit. 740 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: Everybody gave Jimmy the credit, and he wanted Jimmy to 741 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: toast it. 742 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: And that's that's a tough spot to be in for 743 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: a player. 744 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 4: It has to be just to hear that from your 745 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 4: owner has to be a tough spot to be in. 746 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: You know, he's running it. 747 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: It's supposed to be a football team, it's supposed to 748 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 4: be an organization. But you're running it like I'm not 749 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 4: gonna say the P bird. You're running it like. 750 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: The P word. Oh, Joe, as long as you. 751 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: Saw James, Yes, yes, okay, okay, you see where I'm going. Yeah, okay, 752 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: you're running. You're running it like that. 753 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: You don't say you don't you don't say that about 754 00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: the players that you. 755 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: Don't complain. 756 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I made the quarterback the highest state because you 757 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: fucking waited to pay him. 758 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: You waited till the last minute. 759 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: Waited to the last minute. You would got Michael Parsons 760 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: on the fifth year option, so you waited till the 761 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: last minute. He said it. And I used to say 762 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: this all the time. I am not going to give you. 763 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: I would give you a discount if you signed me 764 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 2: with a couple of years left, because now. 765 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: You're giving me guaranteed money. I'm not giving you a disk. 766 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: Account if you make me get to the punctuation v 767 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 2: end No, bro, I got to get maximum dollar out 768 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: of you, max value. But see, here's the thing on Joe, 769 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: I know who Jerry is. And as long as they 770 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: know who Jerry is, they should never have a problem 771 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: with it. He applauds to what you do, not who 772 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: you are. It's transactional to him, you can provide a service, 773 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: a damn good one. 774 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: He's gonna pat you on the back. 775 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: But if you think it's anything more than that, you're 776 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 2: selling mistaking, sadly mistaken. 777 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: And man, that's that's I ain't never heard nothing like that. 778 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: Now. 779 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: I know a lot of them think like that. One 780 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 3: thing to think, But actually. 781 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: Sa bro, listen, see a lot of times people want 782 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: to they'll take what he says about them. But I 783 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: listen to what he says about everything else and how 784 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 2: he handles everything else. 785 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: That told me a lot. 786 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh you're told are gonna be on the line. 787 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: Your hand's gonna be over the heart. 788 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh doing that? Oh yeah, yeah, Okay. 789 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: I see what we go with this? Yeah, I see 790 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: what I see how you think? 791 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's unfortunate you. 792 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: I hate to, Like I said, I know Michael Little, 793 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: I like him a lot, great personality. 794 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: No, it's represented it. 795 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be very very disappointed if y'all don't 796 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: rack Jerry ass cross the colst If y'all don't get 797 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 2: at least forty two forty three million dollars, If y'all 798 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: don't get if y'all don't get ten million if y'all 799 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: don't get five million. 800 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: More than what TJ Watt got. 801 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: TJ got three years, one hundred and forty three million, 802 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: he got one hundred and eight guaranteed with one year. 803 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, y'all better get. 804 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: You one hundred and fifteen million guarantee under guaranteed. As 805 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, Jerry, since you've been nasty, I 806 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: want a hundred of it and signing. I want a 807 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: hundred up about what than fifteen and signing. 808 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 3: As soon as I signed out of line, I'm not 809 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 3: even shaking hand day. 810 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm not happy to be a cowboy, but I'm more 811 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: happy than I get to a secure of my family. 812 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: This is generational wealth, my family, my dad, my brother. Hey, 813 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 2: we're good now. 814 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy, Dot he really said that out loud. 815 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that's oh, Joe. Don't you like that? Don't you 816 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: let me know where I'm staying with you? See so 817 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: far too many times, far too many times, I just 818 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: need to know. See that's the difference between the South 819 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: and the North, and it's how there. You know. They 820 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: don't like it. They tell you, yeah, I don't like you. 821 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 5: Bob. 822 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: As opposed to hide, right, Yeah, they'll tell y'all what 823 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: he thinks. 824 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: Michael actually reported the training camp today despite the contract 825 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: stand up? Should know? Should Michael trust Jerry Joe's enough 826 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: to report the camp? Yeah, I'm gonna report to camp. 827 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm a report to camp. I don't want to get 828 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: no money back. I don't want to, but I just 829 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: because they've tried to. That's another thing. Oh, Joe, see 830 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: see what they put in there? Now, Hey, there's no forgiveness, 831 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: though it doubles. I mean, what did it started up? 832 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand, thirty thousand, You missed ten, you missed ten, 833 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: fifteen days of practice. That's over a million dollars that 834 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 2: the team can't forget. Forgive mm hmm. Yeah. 835 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 3: But now that you know, you go on there. You 836 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: know you play the game. 837 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm playing the game for they say the game. 838 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: I'm playing with the number, the name on the back 839 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 2: of my jersey. Eft that name on the front. Because 840 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 2: that's what you said to me. 841 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, basically basically and not so many words. Yeah, that's crazy. 842 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: So hey, go do what you do, Michael. 843 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 2: I hope Michael get twenty five sacks and the fifty 844 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: and the forty million. You're gonna pass fifty now fifty Mili, Michael, 845 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: hopefully you get a contract extension. What's Michael playing on? 846 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 2: What's this fifty option? Twenty? 847 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 5: What? 848 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 2: Because he's outside, he's the edge or here d n 849 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: twenty four minutes? Michael, All you do is that you 850 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 2: pay your monthly expenses. Don't you buy nothing, don't you 851 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 2: buy a car? Don't you ay tell your mom and 852 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: dad say look here, there will be no expenses going on. 853 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play my rent. I'm gonna pay X, Y 854 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: and Z. I'm just gonna pay monthly expenses. I wist 855 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: sit tight because if this, you know what, try to 856 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: franchise me. I'm not coming. I'm not signing, no franchise tag. 857 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm not signing a franchise tag. Not gonna do it. 858 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 3: Hey, you think you think you would play with him? 859 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do realize here's the thing. Oh Joe, you 860 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 2: didn't do it to me. Now, so you've made run 861 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: the gauntlet two years in the row. Well, oh no, bro, 862 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: I got to hit you over the head with a 863 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: heavy hammer. 864 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, if I'm Michael, Yes, the. 865 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: Price goes the price goes up ten percent every year 866 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: that you don't get this done. 867 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: So right now, it's forty two million. You don't pay 868 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: me this year. 869 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 2: Guess what it is a ten percent increase forty six million, 870 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 2: and plus another ten percent on the sign up on 871 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 2: the guaranteed money. I don't. 872 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: I don't is he does he purposely? What is the method? 873 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 3: You did it with CD Lamb? You did it with that? 874 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 3: You did d Elliott? Because he's he's. 875 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: Thinking they're going to give him a discount. I'm not 876 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: giving you a discount when you're making me run to 877 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: the last year of the contract. Oh Joe, I'm not 878 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: see he thought that would give him a discount, like 879 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: Wentz and Golf gave their teams discounts. But those teams, 880 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 2: they were first and second overall pick, they got huge. 881 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 2: Their total contract was guaranteed. They got four they got 882 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: thirty five million, they got thirty two million fully guaranteed. 883 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: I don't know what that That was the fourth round pick, 884 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: So I don't really know what those numbers are. Then 885 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: three years into the deal they give a new contract. 886 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: That is what they did with that. So, oh Joe, 887 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: I've already gotten thirty two thirty three billion dollars are guaranteed, 888 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 2: plus you come to me early. Okay, I give you 889 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 2: a little discount, I help you, I help the salary camp. 890 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 3: Right, understandable. 891 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 2: I'm not giving you a discount when I'm that low 892 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: of a draft pick. My first contract, not first one. 893 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to split your dome. Oh yes, absolutely, Now 894 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 2: I might give you one the second one, but that's 895 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 2: my choosing. No, you say, oh, you know, you tell 896 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 2: me that's you know, football business and let football people 897 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: do football things. Well, I'm gonna let y'all handle that 898 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: salary camp. So my job is not to try to 899 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: help y'all manage all salary cap I'm trying to extract 900 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: because I care just about as much as winning as 901 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: you do. Jerry Jones has shown you over the last 902 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 2: thirty years he doesn't care about winning. 903 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: So guess what me either,