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Speaker 1: M The Around the League Podcast is wary of shadowy

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Speaker 1: league figures. Welcome to another edition of the Round the

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Speaker 1: League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by the room filled with heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What up boys, Hey Anne, Happy Friday,

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Looking forward to this weekend. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. How was your Thursday night? Then Thursday

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Speaker 1: night was excellent? Well, let's let's ditch the pretense that

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Speaker 1: we're actually taping Thursday and we're trying to be cute here.

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Speaker 1: It's going up first thing Friday. But as you can see,

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Speaker 1: we're professionals, so we're we can mess with tents and time.

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Speaker 1: It just shows the power we have over the medium.

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Speaker 1: I'm not as professional as Mark Sessler, who brought up

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Speaker 1: a Russian novel up here in terms of his print

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Speaker 1: outs just to get ready for the show. This is yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is not a something that cessler. This is more

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Speaker 1: than one time he's done this, and it's interesting. A

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Speaker 1: man of the trees for the show, by the way,

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to send a photo out at some

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Speaker 1: point because for the past whatever it is eleven twelve months.

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Speaker 1: I am the individual without a computer monitor in here,

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Speaker 1: and so any information that I want a reference must

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Speaker 1: be printed out. That's fair. But well, this is not this.

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Speaker 1: There is a pile of paper to my left, which

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the show. You are destroying

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Speaker 1: the environment worse than China. The question is, does a

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Speaker 1: smart man take a trip to Kinkos and drop like

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Speaker 1: guy were to do that, would you do it to

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Speaker 1: your office or a Kinkoes? Mark? Is that guy that

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Speaker 1: it in the century. I like that. Yeah, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: And listen, alright, my reasoning is pure. They come there,

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Speaker 1: there is reason. Okay, So we got a really nice

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Speaker 1: show today. I'm very excited. We're all very excited. Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: NFL analysts for NFL Media, will be back his second

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Speaker 1: visit with us. We're gonna talk about he came to

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Speaker 1: us and said that he had some good information to

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Speaker 1: plugged in guy. So Bucky's gonna be in here. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna dig into a little bit. We have our Projected

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Speaker 1: Starters series where we basically, um, you know, make predictions

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Speaker 1: you know, have some fun talking about that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get We're gonna get Kevin Patrack coming at

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Speaker 1: you on the phone. He had something he wanted to

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Speaker 1: then not any not his relate, not any long distance

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Speaker 1: do have something to talk about about? Gold Standard? A

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Speaker 1: Let do it. Michael Vick was signed by the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets in the off season to compete with Gino

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Speaker 1: really an open competition. Kind of like you know, when

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Speaker 1: hits you. Excellent analogy. The last thirteen years of Vick's

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Speaker 1: that's just the competitive nature in me. Hopefully that opportunity

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Speaker 1: But where I think that Michael Vick was smart to

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Speaker 1: Because they believe in Geno Smith. I think John Zick

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Speaker 1: we shall San Francisco forty Isors linebacker Aldon Smith is

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Speaker 1: Smith is scheduled for a July sentencing in Santa Clara, Gentleman,

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Speaker 1: from Cessler. It ain't right, I know, Mark. Moving forward,

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Speaker 1: how he's made changes, and he was playing like an

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Speaker 1: m v P. Talk to us West. He played better

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Speaker 1: last year. He's not a terrible quarterback. I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time rooting for a guy who I don't like

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Speaker 1: what by the way Western says, Vetoing is a Lions

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Speaker 1: fan throwing this out there. That that's something too And

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Speaker 1: if you have Trustman and someone needs to come in

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Speaker 1: for Cutler, that's gonna be a well coached quarter a

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Speaker 1: quarterback we saw that last season little David Fail's action.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jordan Palmer will not play for the Chicago Bears. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, I think that was an excellent suggestion, and

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Speaker 1: they're certainly you know, again, it's way too early. It's

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Speaker 1: like taking too much out of ot as with the players.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to, you know, make it known what

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Speaker 1: teams are really in the mix. But the Bears. That's

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Speaker 1: an interesting thought. Thank thank you, Kevin, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: all the listeners have chimed in on this issue. They

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Speaker 1: have their own choices. Some had pretty dramatic feelings about

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Speaker 1: whether we should pick it in the preseason. I like

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Speaker 1: that they were saying, don't pick it in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: And Patrick. You can now go back to your chess

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Speaker 1: match in the park with John Legend. Thanks Kevin. All right,

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Speaker 1: good talk from Kevin Patrick. Always great hearing his voice.

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Speaker 1: H a t l S version of Mark Wahlberg. As

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Speaker 1: we all know, uh, we are going to now get

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Speaker 1: into We have a series up on the Around the

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Speaker 1: League page NFL dot com backslash a t L the

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Speaker 1: projected two thousand fourteen starters. This is where we've predicted, uh,

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Speaker 1: the week one starting lineups for all thirty two teams,

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Speaker 1: analyzing the potential impact of each rookie class. So well,

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Speaker 1: quickly go, we got Bucky Brooks coming in a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: So let's go quickly around the room and each of us, uh,

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Speaker 1: we can point out something we we found interesting from

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Speaker 1: the series, and we will start with the boss, Greg Rosenthal. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the team. Kevin Patrick was just

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Speaker 1: talking about I did the NFC North starting lineups and

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Speaker 1: it just struck me how the Chicago Bears could be

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Speaker 1: starting six or seven new defensive starters this year. It

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Speaker 1: could be as little as three or four, but you're

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Speaker 1: looking at Jared Allen, Lamar Houston, Kyle Fuller, their first

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Speaker 1: round pick Ryan Mundy strong safety, and then you might

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Speaker 1: also have a couple of rookies Ego Ferguson, Will Sutton

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Speaker 1: could start. Maybe they'll even replace Chris Content. You could

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Speaker 1: have seven new defensive starters. And then you look at

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Speaker 1: the offensive side, Man, they're loaded. That is as good

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Speaker 1: a starting lineup, including the offensive line, as stable as

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Speaker 1: any group in the league. They've just totally flipped from

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Speaker 1: a few years ago. And I like that starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: I like how Trustman needed essentially about eighteen months to

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Speaker 1: come in and fix that line win over the course

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Speaker 1: of how many seventy years Smith it just descended into

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Speaker 1: madness with him, right, And they're as stable as it

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Speaker 1: gets now. I think they're They're pretty happy. It's a

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Speaker 1: group that's better as a group than if you just

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Speaker 1: look at the individuals. The previous regime left kind of

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Speaker 1: a conundrum are on how to fix an aging defense,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like they've done a pretty good job.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how they do with six or seven new starters.

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Speaker 1: All right, West, what do you uh? What did you?

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Speaker 1: What was the team or a player that kind of

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Speaker 1: jumps out to you was interesting? The one that jumped

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Speaker 1: out to me was the Bears division rivals. The Packers

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Speaker 1: don't have a hole on the roster. WHOA. They are

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Speaker 1: a deep, deep team that got a key player in

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Speaker 1: free agency, drafted well, and is getting more key players

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Speaker 1: back from injury than anyone else. Getting Clay Matthews, uh

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Speaker 1: Casey Hayward, who was a big loss for them last year,

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Speaker 1: was their best cornerback the year before, Brad Jones coming

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Speaker 1: back from injury. And then they have got young guys

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Speaker 1: like Daton Jones who they expect to come in and

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Speaker 1: play a huge role this year. And then uh Micael

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Speaker 1: Hyde who isn't even listed on our starting lineup, but

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to find snaps for him

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. I really like what their defense did,

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Speaker 1: and of course you know the offense with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and Eddie Lacy. The receivers are good, and then they

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Speaker 1: bring in a guy like Davante Adams, who a lot

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Speaker 1: of people liked in the second round at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: This is a loaded, loaded roster. So was this a

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Speaker 1: situation where you didn't quite realize it until he sat

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Speaker 1: down and scratched out who was there? And if you

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Speaker 1: look at the team they put on the field and

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Speaker 1: the champion, and not in the playoff game against the

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Speaker 1: forty niners when they lost, and they barely lost. Look

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Speaker 1: at the players on defense who are new Clay Matthews

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Speaker 1: wasn't on the field, Casey Hayward wasn't on the field.

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Speaker 1: Ha ha, Clinton Dix, Julia's Peppers, Dayton Jones barely played.

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Speaker 1: This is a majorly upgraded roster from their playoff There

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Speaker 1: is one hole. I think they're left tackle. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: David back tr wasn't particularly great last Aaron Rodgers, I'd

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Speaker 1: say that. And then their defensive end, they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of depth there. They don't know if they have

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Speaker 1: anyone that's particularly good. Mike Daniels played great last year. Alright,

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Speaker 1: scientists bare down, all right. You know, when I was

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Speaker 1: going through the a f C East today, I thought

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Speaker 1: I'd set that up. You know. I took a look

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Speaker 1: at the Patriots roster in a couple issues skill position wise,

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Speaker 1: and you know last year they went through the season

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Speaker 1: without It doesn't matter what New England does, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: win ten, ten, twelve, eleven games anyways, go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But I look at Buffalo's line up and say, if

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Speaker 1: you remove the quarterback position from both teams, and that's

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Speaker 1: a that's an issue. But outside of that, the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills have more talent than the New England Patriots. Stop

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Speaker 1: whoa Buffalo's defense? You want to talk about a defense

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have a weak spot and has potentially one

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Speaker 1: of the better front sevens in football, that's Buffalo. We

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Speaker 1: saw hints of that last season. And then on offense,

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Speaker 1: you've added Sammy Watkins to a wide receiver group, Robert Woods,

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams from Tampa Bay not a terrible addition, Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Spiller in the backfield, a line that is not

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Speaker 1: a great offensive line necessarily, but they've made some additions there.

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Speaker 1: And look at New England Edelman, Amondola, Brandon LaFell is

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Speaker 1: your potential number three. And then this Stobs, Dobson Tompkins

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Speaker 1: scenario where last year nine or one of them jumped

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Speaker 1: out as a premier talent. I like what you're cooking up.

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Speaker 1: I concede your point that the rosters outside of quarterback

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Speaker 1: are not that dissimilar. However, the Bills do not have

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Speaker 1: the best tight end, quarterback and cornerback of the past

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Speaker 1: seven eight years. Which the Patriots. That is true, and

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Speaker 1: you're and you need to in Gronkowski. If he's in there,

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Speaker 1: that's a completely different offense. But I'm not sure he's

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Speaker 1: back there for the beginning of the year, all right,

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Speaker 1: And I will stick in the ANFC East with the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets. Um, Mark, Yeah, Well, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you gotta keep people on their toes. Stephen hill Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Jets have waited and been patient with

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Speaker 1: Stephen hill Um to emerge for or second round pick.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't happened. I'm just curious, Mark. I know you

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Speaker 1: you listed him as a starter in this uh projection,

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Speaker 1: and I can't really blame you because there's not someone

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Speaker 1: necessarily that will step in. But I really do think

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Speaker 1: hill is in great danger not only of not having

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Speaker 1: a starting role, but potentially bouncing off this team taken

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Speaker 1: by a prior regime. And you have some other guys,

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Speaker 1: just some sneaky guys on the roster, you know, Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Ford maybe can slide into that spot. They took two

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in the fourth round, Jalen Saunders and Shack Evans.

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Speaker 1: And his name is Shack, which is cool. So I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of wondering if if one of these young guys

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Speaker 1: can emerge and get on the good side um of

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Speaker 1: Marty Morton Wig if they're going to see a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, and who knows, maybe they get someone off

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Speaker 1: the street. I just don't think Stephen Hill will have

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Speaker 1: any real role with the Jets. In the piece itself,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned that Steven Hill is one of the guys

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Speaker 1: that is in danger of falling off the side of

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Speaker 1: a cliff in New York if he doesn't do something quick.

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Speaker 1: That sounds great, we're talking week one. I would put

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Speaker 1: him as a Week one starter because the Jets probably

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Speaker 1: want to give him one more shot. Approved that that

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Speaker 1: draft pick was correct, and we're talking the other guys

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Speaker 1: you mentioned or people I've not watched those college guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to jump in and put Shack whatever

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Speaker 1: his name is, as the starter this time around. I'm

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Speaker 1: going Stephen Hill. Can he lose his job, yes, but

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Speaker 1: he also hasn't played with the real quarterback yet. He

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Speaker 1: will be when Michael Vick takes the Week one starts

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Speaker 1: under all right, that's it for that Mark. I know

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Speaker 1: you have to get out of here. Uh. And it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's good because you kind of make some room for

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Speaker 1: a man he can go out on the bottom with

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Speaker 1: his Bill's Patriots and listening. Sorry to upset your future. Correct,

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Speaker 1: it was, it was a good time. Here's the one.

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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing you forgot. One of them is

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Speaker 1: coached by perhaps the greatest coach, and the other one

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Speaker 1: is coached by a guy that went eleven and seventeen

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Speaker 1: in the Big East. Your team hasn't had a losing

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Speaker 1: season since you were a freshman college Mark. I'm out

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Speaker 1: of here. I've had enough seeing it. Bucky Books who

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Speaker 1: is making his way into the studio, and this is nice.

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Speaker 1: We've never had like a live guest coming into it,

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Speaker 1: so I would like to introduce the man. He is

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Speaker 1: a former UH star at U n C, a second

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Speaker 1: round pick in the NFL, a personnel man, a scout,

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Speaker 1: analysts for NFL media, and perhaps most importantly, he has

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Speaker 1: the same exact laugh as Jay Z. That's pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: I heard Gregg and here banging on the Billy Brooks

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Speaker 1: banging on the Bills. I'm sorry you have to watch that,

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Speaker 1: you know, family argument. Do you think Bills are Patriots

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Speaker 1: roster if you take out the quarterbacks? Did they close.

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Speaker 1: I hate to agree with Mark, but he makes compelling points.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty talent. What about what about Jay Z and

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks similar? Laughing? I wish, I wish I could

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Speaker 1: have his, uh, his swag and his his his his

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Speaker 1: plot in life right now? Can we do a side

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Speaker 1: by side comparison? It's kind of similar. There's something there, Bucky. Alright, So, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: you are a man that we trust for your knowledge

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Speaker 1: of all matters professional football, and you mentioned to Greg

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Speaker 1: in an email that you had a lot of info

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Speaker 1: that you had to share just come across random stuff

616
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: and talking to guys throughout the league about mini camps

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Speaker 1: and what they think and how they perceive, and you

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Speaker 1: need to unload this is we gotta dump it off.

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Speaker 1: So we we are the dump. We are the trash

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Speaker 1: dump that Bucky Brooks comes to, and we're proud to

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Speaker 1: be that. So where do we want to start? How

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Speaker 1: about I'll throw it out there. Why don't we start

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, which is a team port. Mark Sessler won't

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Speaker 1: be able to talk about it with you, but we're

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Speaker 1: curious what your thought is on the Johnny Manzel situation

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. You know, I think the Cleveland situation is

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Speaker 1: really interesting. Haven't known Ray Farmer. God, we played against

628
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Speaker 1: each other in college and really we're close friends in

629
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Speaker 1: the business. Talking about his vision for building a team,

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Speaker 1: he's really and the few guys who has talked about

631
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Speaker 1: what his vision would be and kind of followed through

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Speaker 1: with the Johnny Manziel coming in. He has always talked

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Speaker 1: about the team being a team that is not necessarily

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Speaker 1: quarterback centric, but a team that is similar and balanced

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Speaker 1: like the Seattle Seahawks were. He was fascinated by the

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Speaker 1: way they built their team um and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the conversation when people have really deinged them about Josh

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Speaker 1: Gordon and why they haven't gone out and got a

639
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: marquee receiver. During the senior board we talked and he said, look,

640
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Speaker 1: who's the marquis receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Yet they

641
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Speaker 1: were able to win, and he talked about Percy Harvard

642
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: yet came in and made contributions. But it's about finding

643
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: a couple of receivers that can step up on a

644
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: game by game basis. With Johnny Manzel, I think the

645
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Speaker 1: fascination with Johnny Monzela is how does he fit, what

646
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Speaker 1: will he do? What will their offense look like? And

647
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Speaker 1: I think if you go back and not necessarily look

648
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Speaker 1: at what Cayl Shanahan was able to do with the

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00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins and the pistol, Johnny Monzel didn't play in

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Speaker 1: the pistol at tex and m So when people kind

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00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: of make that parallel, that's not necessarily accurate. I think

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Speaker 1: when you look at what Kyl Shanahan has done, he

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00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: has experienced during the West Coast offense for his time

654
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Speaker 1: with Gary Kubiak in Houston, I envisioned that offense looking

655
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: very much like the Houston Texas offense. Look when you

656
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of boot rollout action, a lot of

657
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: stretch runs. When you look at the two running backs

658
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: they got Terence West and Bentate in the off season,

659
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: both of those guys are zone based running games. So

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Speaker 1: as I'm connecting the docks, it leads me to believe

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00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: that they're going to run the zone based system and

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: then they're going to have johnnyman Zel always sneak out

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00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: the back door, a lot of movement, passes, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things, and then talking to a separate executive, he said,

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Speaker 1: envisioned johnnyman Zel playing like Jeff Garcia in San Francisco

666
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: rather than the Doug Flutie fran target. In comparison, think

667
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: about how Jeff Garcia played at his at his prime,

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00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: at his best when Steve Mary was there. That's how

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Speaker 1: you can see Johny Manzell possibly playing in the nash Football.

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00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: You've seen our teams use their off season O t

671
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: A's team building training camp. Do you think there's anything

672
00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: too wasting a little bit too much energy on getting

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00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer ready as a starter instead of investing all

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Speaker 1: your time and resources into really getting your number one

675
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: draft pick prepared? Or is there plenty of time for

676
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: both and doesn't really matter? I mean, I think it's

677
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: plenty of time for both. I do think it's funny.

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: You know, the Browns have this ground swell of attention

679
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: and media attention, and everyone's fascinated by Johnny Manzel, and

680
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: they have done everything that they can to absolutely squash that. Yeah,

681
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: not even like squashes common as oh he's a backup,

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Speaker 1: he's this. I think if you bind a Johnny Manzel,

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00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: you bondto the whole package, You bondto the personality you

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Speaker 1: brought into the competitive drive that he brings to the table.

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Speaker 1: And I think you have to let Johnny be Johnny,

686
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: and I think he doesn't get enough credit for his football.

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Speaker 1: Like you, I believe that he can play this game

688
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: at a high at a high level, but I think

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Speaker 1: you have to make sure you put him in a

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Speaker 1: position to succeed. I understand having Brian hoy kind of

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Speaker 1: take the reins early, but I think eventually John Manzel

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Speaker 1: has to be the quarterback of that team. Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware, but Chris westling to

694
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Speaker 1: my right, has said he will eat his softball pants.

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Speaker 1: We're talking hy uh composite parts metal zipper. If Johnny

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Speaker 1: Manziel is not under center week one for the Photon,

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Speaker 1: no no, no. If Brian Hoyer starts over a healthy

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Speaker 1: Johnny Menzel in week one, if Tyler Thigpen starts, I'm

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Speaker 1: in the clear. Okay, alright? Is should west be concerned

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Speaker 1: that is it possible Manzel is not starting? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's possible. Like if if he

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Speaker 1: goes out and he just kind of lays an egg

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00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: going preseason, he doesn't grasp the offense. I can't envision

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Speaker 1: him not being the starter on opening day for as

705
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: much as people are building up Brian Horrier, let's keep

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Speaker 1: buying horror and perspective like he is not the next

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Speaker 1: grade coming. I think they drafted Johny Manziel would have

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Speaker 1: plan for him to be the starting quarterback. And also

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Speaker 1: because Kyle Shanahan did such a great job again, Robert

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Speaker 1: Griffin the third ready to play as a rookie, I

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Speaker 1: think Johnny Monzel eventually be the guy. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: move into Minnesota. That is a team that seems as

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Speaker 1: an intrigues Buckey Brooks a little bit. You want to

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about Anthony Barr and what

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Speaker 1: he could be doing in Minnesota this year. I think

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Speaker 1: the uh fascinating reports coming out of Minnesota is how

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Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer will use Anthony Barr. Uh. He even alluded

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Speaker 1: to having a Von Miller like role in that defense.

719
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Speaker 1: And so the transition that Anthony Barr has to make

720
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota is moving from being a three or four

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker to have been a four three outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: And while a lot of it is semantics and making

723
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Speaker 1: that comparison to what von Miller has done for the

724
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, I think that's a very valid way to

725
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Speaker 1: get him on the field. First, you have him stand

726
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: up play over top of the tight end on first

727
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: and second now where he can use his length, his

728
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: athleticism and strength to set the edge on the running game,

729
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: and then on nickel situations you can have him put

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Speaker 1: his hand on the ground and come off the edge.

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Speaker 1: Von Miller really succeeded and thrived in that role, and

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Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer has done similar things. If you go back

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Speaker 1: to his days in Atlanta with Michael Bowley, if you

734
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: look at Michael Bowley's production when Mike Zimmer was there,

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Speaker 1: it's very, very similar to the role that I can

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Speaker 1: is an Anthony Barr playing for them. So he got

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Speaker 1: him a lot of money. He did a really good

738
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Speaker 1: job of finding a way to create production for him.

739
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Speaker 1: I think he will find a way to create products

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Speaker 1: for Anthony Barkon. That Vikings team is interesting. We did

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Speaker 1: this starting lineup series on the site and you look

742
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: at bar rushing off the edge, and then you look

743
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Speaker 1: at the defensive line. They have Brian Robison, Lynval, Joseph

744
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: Sharif Floyd and Everson Griffin. That there's an intriguing group there.

745
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Speaker 1: And and with a defense coordinator or a head coach

746
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Speaker 1: who de facto defense coordinator, who understands how to get

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Speaker 1: his guys going. His guys really play for them. He's

748
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: a hard nose coach. He kind of finds a way

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Speaker 1: to get him going. The success he had in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely believe he can do similar things in Minnesota.

751
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: He has a very young, talented roster. The only position

752
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: of question for me is Captain Maunderland playing at cornerback.

753
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: I just want to can he hold up Xavier Rose

754
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: Captain Mundlin. I wonder how good they are with Josh

755
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Robinson also having to play in the nickel package. And

756
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: what about Teddy Bridgewater? What are you thinking of him

757
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: right now? I think people are excited about Teddy Bridgeward.

758
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: I know, after we've gone through all the pre draft

759
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: speculation and people kind of poking holes and what he is.

760
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I think they've been pleasantly surprised at what he's been

761
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: able to do. The fact that he's getting reps with

762
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Speaker 1: the Number one says a lot about what he was

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00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: able to show in rookie minicamp, and he falls into

764
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Speaker 1: what I think is a perfect situation for a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Most rookie quarterbacks aren't drafted at the bottom of the

766
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Speaker 1: first round, so they typically don't fall into talented situations.

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Speaker 1: With Agan Peterson in the backfield, pass catchers you know,

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Speaker 1: Quardrell Paterson, Greg Jennings, Kyle Rudolph. He has a wealth

769
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Speaker 1: of weapons around him where he only has to kind

770
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Speaker 1: of play the point guard role. If he doesn't go

771
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Speaker 1: and mess it up. I can easily see him supplant

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Speaker 1: mac Castle at the starting quarterback in Minnesota. Let's talk

773
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Speaker 1: about Mike Zimmer's old team. How is Hugh Jackson can

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Speaker 1: utilized Jeremy Hill and what does that mean for Ben

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00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: Jarvis green ellis you know, I love Hugh Jackson's offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get enough credit for what he did in Oakland.

777
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Speaker 1: When he was the offensive coordinator in Oakland twice they

778
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Speaker 1: were finishing the top ten in Russian and they were

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Speaker 1: number two as an offensive coordinator. So in remaking that

780
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals team, he's going to make them a tougher,

781
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: more physical team at the point of attack and they're

782
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: going to run the ball between the tackles. Jeremy Hill

783
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: would be the hammer in that offense. Ben Jarvis Greenell

784
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Speaker 1: still could have a role, but I think Jeremy Hill

785
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: and jere Vonnie Bernard would be the one to punch

786
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: in that in that running game, and they'll do a

787
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: lot of unbalanced sets. That's one of the things that

788
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: he does cleverly under the radar. He does a lot

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Speaker 1: of extra offensive lineman in the game, unbalanced as running

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00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: the power into counter. He'll find a way to get

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill going. And part of the reason they drafted

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill over Carlos Heide is because they liked the

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00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: way he ran an l s U against eight nine

794
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 1: man boxes. He'll see some of those looks in the

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Speaker 1: a f C North, but he'll thrive in that is

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00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: his strategy to improve Andy Dalton gonna be partly to

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Speaker 1: minimize Andy Dalton, I think. So. I think what you

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Speaker 1: do is here, try and make it where you have

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: to respect the running game, because if they can create

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Speaker 1: enough of a punch in the run where they can

801
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: draw that extra safety into the box, now that makes

802
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: it easy for Andy Dalton to throw all side. But

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00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Andy all has to grow up. And I'm surprised, I

804
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: know there's been conversations about him signing that contract. I'm

805
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: not all in on Andy Dawton being necessarily a franchise

806
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: quarterback that can get them to the next level. I

807
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: think they'll do everything and they're prober to put him

808
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: in a situation where you can't fail. But I could

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00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: see them playing another quarterback real soon. Cincinnati. How do

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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: you mean well, I mean, I mean, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to sell sign that contract either. I think Mike Brown,

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00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: you know Mike, I don't think Mike Brown's going to

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Speaker 1: give him that deal this year. I think there's no

814
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: reason to give him that deal this year with the

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Speaker 1: deal that he wants. If he's talking about that eighteen,

816
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: the nineteen that Joe Flacco like that, that's crazy for

817
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Speaker 1: Andy Dawton. Now, aj McCarron. Whatever Ajian mccarroon is, isn't.

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00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: The offense that he's stepping into in Cincinnati is very

819
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: similar to what he did in Alabama, where all he

820
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: has to do is be a game manager and care taker.

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Speaker 1: If whatever reason Andy Dalton has hurt can't get it done,

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00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: I think, and I mean Ajan McCarron can step in

823
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: there and not only play, but play very was a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that they could I think

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00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: he's a guy. I think he was drafted for a reason.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was just a throwaway pick. I

827
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: think there was something behind taking a J mccarren. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, regardless of whether he has all the talent

829
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: tools that's a little for in the franchise quarterback, I

830
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: think he's a good play He's won a lot of

831
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Speaker 1: games and knowing how to get his team to the

832
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: winning circle. There's something to be said for that. Does

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00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: it matter you You've been inside of teams and from

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00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: the front office and scouting perspective. Doesn't matter that he's

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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. If he was a third round

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Speaker 1: pick by the Bengals, would that materially help his chances

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Speaker 1: of playing sooner or or doesn't really matter? Maybe. I

838
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: mean when someone comes in like one picks one, two,

839
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: and three first three rounds, those guys that are pretty

840
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: much locks to be on your team, you expect them

841
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: to have a future for you. You expect him to

842
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: eventually be starters in your program. Now, the fact that

843
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: he's a fifth round pick, it does kind of put

844
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: him out of the realm of conversation in terms of

845
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: being a lock. But if he goes in and shows

846
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: people and o t as Minichians were more importantly in

847
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: preseason that he can handle the responsibilities of being a quarterback.

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00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: He could get a legitimate chance. I mean, I don't

849
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: want to bring up the Russell Wilson team because he

850
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Speaker 1: was a third around it and there is a little

851
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: bit of a difference, But I think ultimately you want

852
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: to play players who earned the right to get on

853
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: the field. If he earns the right through his performance

854
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: in preseason, he could be a guy. And finally, I

855
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: know you are You're hearing a lot of intrigue around

856
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: how the Saints planned to use Brandon Cooks. You know,

857
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks one of my favorite players in the draft,

858
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: Super explosive, probably the most polish of all the wide

859
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: receivers coming out. When you lose the Darren Sprowls and

860
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: you let Lance more go, you have to kind of

861
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: figure out a way to make up that production. The

862
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: fact that the Saints jumped up to get him says

863
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: that Sean Payton has a plan for him, and I

864
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: think that plan could include him being kind of the

865
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: guy that plays all over the field in the slot

866
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: on the outside, does a lot of stuff. I can

867
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: see Brandon Cooks being a guy and as a as

868
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: a rookie to have seventy plus catches as a guy,

869
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: that kind of makes some of the production that Darren

870
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: Sprowles had as an underneath checkdown guy, but also some

871
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: of the stuff that Lance Moore did. Plus he's explosed

872
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: enough to get over the top. He should have a big, big,

873
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: big season. I'm not a fantasy football player, but I

874
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: would put a lot of money on Brandon Cooks if

875
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: he was, like, let me throw out one more. You

876
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: mentioned fantasy football. It's really got my attention. How much

877
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman, the Panthers GM has talked up Odell Beckham

878
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: has said twice on two different occasions, the only wide

879
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: receiver in this class you can't question his route running

880
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: is Odell Beckham. There's some truth to that, and I

881
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: think when you look you have to understand, like evaluators

882
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: and GMS and scouts, when they're looking at tape, they're

883
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: trying to find guys that are seamlessly fit into a

884
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: pro system. Because Odell Beckham played on the camp Cameron

885
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: he ran roused that we see on Sundays we see

886
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: an offense at L s U that is one that

887
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: is very similar to what Cam Cameron did at Baltimore,

888
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: in Miami and San Diego. So it's easy to look

889
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: at him and say, Okay, he can run all of

890
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: the routes on the rout tree. He shouldn't have a

891
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: big lording curve in terms of being able to get

892
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: on the field for the Johnson. In fact, when I

893
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: watched him on tape, he reminded me of the guy

894
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: they already have in New York and Victor Cruz. His skill, said,

895
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: reminds me of Victor Cruz, but he has a little

896
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: more pop. So the fact that you have Victor Cruz,

897
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, and now Ruben round the also on the outside,

898
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: you have three really good wide receivers, and you have

899
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator is going to run some of

900
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: that West Coast system. I think he could be a

901
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: really good fit. I don't see Dave Gettleman being out

902
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: of bounds with that comment because I think there's some

903
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: truth is he's trying to get a job in New

904
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: York again and he did not draft. You know, the

905
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: funny thing is whenever you leave a team and you

906
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: go to another team, there's some that affinity that you

907
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: have for your previous team, allows you or leads you

908
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: to make decisions based on what you've experienced. Even his

909
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: decision to draft Kelvin Benjamin. He talks about plexico birds.

910
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Now I didn't necessarily see that, but the more he

911
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: talks about it, I can see trying to give Cam

912
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Newton what he Lion Manning had a big, targeted guy

913
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: that can kind of expand the strike zone to make

914
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: up for some of the accuracy accuracy issues that he

915
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: may or may not have on the outside. So Dave

916
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: Gettleman is reaching back into his past and that's why

917
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: he believe so much of those guys he talked about.

918
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: If I was a Panthers fan, I'd be like, hey, buddy,

919
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: let's get some receivers that you talk ups just him

920
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: going he didn't have the twelve overall pick. You know,

921
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: I would like to see them surround. Like I think,

922
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: of all the top quarterbacks, Cam has been the one

923
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: who has had to do the most with the least

924
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the talent on the outside. You'd like

925
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: to see him upgraded receiver corps on the perimeter for sure.

926
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, we want you, if possible to come in

927
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: a semi regular basis. Love that. Let's do it. Let's

928
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: put me in ready, alright, Bucky Brooks has visited his

929
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: personal dumpster, the Around the League podcast. He's unloaded into it.

930
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if this analogy really works, but we're

931
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: just gonna roll with it from now. But thank you,

932
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: thank you Bucky for coming in, and we hope to

933
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: see against you. I appreciate I'll work on my jay

934
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: Z laugh. I don't think you have him, all right,

935
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks with another great showing love that guy and

936
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: love is jay Z laugh. Let's hear it one more

937
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: time and then let's hear Bucky. It's like the same.

938
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: Very interesting anyway, if we mentioned earlier that we had

939
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: some news on the gold Standard, and I can't say

940
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: it's great news for the podcast, but it's, you know,

941
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: good news for the gold standard. He will be leaving us,

942
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: leaving us the gold standard, Zach Goldman moving on to

943
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: other endeavors, and uh, Zack, you just you know that

944
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: you will be missed. Thank you so much. It's very

945
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: kind of so enjoyed my time here. You guys are

946
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: the best, and uh yeah, I'm always a caller A

947
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: tweet away you know that violin there. If I was

948
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: a conspiracy minded listener, I would be wondering why the

949
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: violin music was playing. On the previous podcast, Greg called

950
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: the gold Standard a punk, and then on the next

951
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: podcast the news breaks that the gold Stand there is

952
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: no connection. Zack and I have a small Jewish Man

953
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: bond that you guys will never never get it. Well, Zack, yes,

954
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: we we have loved working with you, and who knows,

955
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: maybe one day down the road we will be reunited.

956
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: But for now you're moving on to uh even better

957
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: things before you go, by the way, not the final show.

958
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: By the way, we've got, We've got. We should make

959
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: that clear. You're right, You're absolutely right, Greg, gold Cender

960
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: has got about three more weeks with us, I believe.

961
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: But we just wanted to let the audience know and

962
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: also uh throw it out there that because it's to

963
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: me the thing that stresses uh the gold Standard out

964
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: the most, which is finding contestants for win West's toaster.

965
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to put that heat on a one more

966
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: time and for well, this will be for the gold Centers.

967
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: Last week we will bring back win West's Toaster. The game,

968
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: the Game of Skill and Valor in which contestants battle

969
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: in NFL trivia against Chris Westling the Mailman, with the

970
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: winner either West keeping his toaster, which he always has,

971
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: or a contestant taking West's signature NFL toaster. That Pope

972
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: that manages to somehow superimposed NFL logos upon the bread

973
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: products that will happened so stupid, that will happen three

974
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: weeks from now. And gold Standard, who will be leaving

975
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: us unfortunately, Um in three weeks it will be his

976
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: last big task is to round up some real murderers

977
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: row and you know, just to make it even more special, um,

978
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: we're lining up someone special, a real heavyweight. If the

979
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Speaker 1: callers cannot take West down, somebody from inside the building,

980
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: a you know, Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, WrestleMania six type showdown.

981
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: If West slay's all comers and gold Centered, are you

982
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: going to give us a nice crop of challengers? I

983
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: ask you given them this last go around. It's the

984
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: only way I can go out. I want to know

985
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: who the in house competitor could be. I've got a

986
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: guest though, Brian Baldinger, and he's gotta messed up pinky.

987
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: I think we should keep him out. Um, alright, so

988
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: that was that's the big news. And Zach, we we've

989
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: really enjoyed working with you, but we got some time left,

990
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: but we wanted to get that out there. And you

991
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: get to work gold Standard because you're not done, uh

992
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: working for us yet. It sounds good, alright, so let's

993
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: get out of here, uh signing off for the Mailman,

994
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: the Sizzler, the boss, Bucky Brooks. Why not throw it

995
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: out to him, Kevin Patrick, Kevin Patra who's always coming

996
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: at you. And of course the gold Standard, the quitter,

997
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: they should call it now that that's not true. He's

998
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: a good man. Until Monday,