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Speaker 1: So I think it's pretty clear when you translate that

426
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Speaker 1: to the Colts and their search going forward, what do

427
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 1: they need from their next quarterback starting in twenty twenty three.

428
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: I think the blueprint is there in the playoffs in

429
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: terms of quarterback play and what you need to be success.

430
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: As far away as this Colts team from advanced into

431
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,959
Speaker 1: a championship give just follow me here, follow me here.

432
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: I got two examples. I got Jaguars. I got Jacksonville

433
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: after doing what they did last year, obviously bringing in

434
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, but a hot young quarterback that's going to

435
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: be good. And I also bring up San Francisco with

436
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: literally the last man picked in this recent draft, a

437
00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback advancing to another conference championship game. I'm saying,

438
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 1: how seriously, Well, it's so hard away South is better,

439
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: and that's the easiest path to the playoffs is to

440
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: win your division, and this year was the easiest time

441
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: to win the division and it's only going to get

442
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: more difficult because Houston and Jacksonville are on the ascent.

443
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: Primarily Jacksonville is going to be a factor. They are

444
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: a force that is only going to continue to improve

445
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: with the coaching that they have and the aggressiveness that

446
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: they have as a franchise in terms of not only drafting,

447
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: but spending in free agency and those things. So I

448
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: think you're a little ways off because this division is

449
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: better and it's going to be more difficult to win

450
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 1: the next year moving forward, and just the conference in general,

451
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: with all the young quarterbacks that are still on their

452
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 1: rookie contracts. I mean, Burrow's not going anywhere. We know

453
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes isn't going anywhere. Josh Allen isn't going anywhere, right,

454
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: So if you don't win the AFC South, that's going

455
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: to make it even more competitive and tougher to make

456
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: the postseason as a wildcard team as we saw this

457
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 1: past season. So in some senses, it's yeah, you're not

458
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: far off because you do have good players on offense,

459
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, pieces you can build around, right in Pittman

460
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: and Pierce and Woods and Taylor. I think the offensive

461
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: line is more than salvageable, like we talked about last week.

462
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: So in some ways, yeah, you're not that far off

463
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: because it's not a complete reclamation project like we talked

464
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: about last week. But just the unknowns make it tough

465
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: to say that in one year they can turn it

466
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Speaker 1: around and be the Cincinnati Bengals that go from whatever

467
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: their record was in twenty twenty one or two wins

468
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: to playing in an AFC Championship game the next year.

469
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Speaker 1: That's just hard to envision because we don't have a

470
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Speaker 1: head coach. The Colts don't have a head coach. We

471
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Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do at quarterback, right So,

472
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Speaker 1: like I said, I think defensively they played much better

473
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Speaker 1: than a four twelve and one record. They've got a

474
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: lot of players they can build around on that side

475
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: of the football. I think the same is true for offense.

476
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: I think it's easy for this offense to come in

477
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Speaker 1: and have a bounce back season next year. But that

478
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: being said, there's a lot of ifs right. If you

479
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: get the right offense, coordination may take it ain't easy

480
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: to move the fall I'm saying, I know, but with

481
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: a rookie corps you've got to sink it's gonna be.

482
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, all signs are pointing towards a rookie quarterback

483
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Speaker 1: coming in to lead the Colts offense. That's a that's

484
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: a tall rable. Every year, like we talked about last week,

485
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: every year you see a team go from worse to first,

486
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of teams that make the playoffs that

487
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: did in the year before. I mean, the margin of

488
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: air in this league is so slim, and the Colts

489
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: were right there. They were so close. Instead of being

490
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 1: four twelve and one, they could have easily been if

491
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: they make a couple of plays latent games, an eight

492
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: win team or a nine win team. So I think

493
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: it's doable to turn this thing around. So in some

494
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: ways you say they've got the pieces in place to

495
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: contend in twenty twenty three, but just not knowing who

496
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: the coach is, not knowing what they're going to do

497
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and the growing pains are going to experience

498
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: along the way with that, That makes it on the

499
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: other side of the coin tough to see them doing

500
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Speaker 1: what the Bengals are doing now, the sustained, you know,

501
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: level of great play after finishing so poorly a couple

502
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: of years ago. What gives me optimism that you are

503
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: closer rather than farther away from getting to that point

504
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: is when you look at getting the right culture, establishing

505
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: the culture with great coaching like we saw with Doug

506
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: Peterson in Jacksonville, like you saw with Brian Dable in

507
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: New York. How quickly those two coaches were able to

508
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: put their team. That's your successful position. Coaching matters this weekend.

509
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: Coaching and culture like those are just those two huge factors.

510
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: And that is why this whole coaching search is so important,

511
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: not just in the guy you are hiring, but in

512
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: how he is assembling a staff and the vision he

513
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: has for how to construct the team coincide hand in

514
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: hand with Chris Baller. Okay, let's talk with some of

515
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: these playoffs. And I got a beef to pick with you, Taylor.

516
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: You ever noticed when you talk about the Reds with him?

517
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, I have no reason to ever talk about

518
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: the Red Joe Morgan and you know don't you dare

519
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: say that about how Morris and I said Joey Vato

520
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: is not a Hall of Famer, and you wanted to

521
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: fight me. And it's like, why don't you have the

522
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: love for the Bengals and the city of Cincinnati which

523
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: you love and this Bengals team is right up your life?

524
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: I know you're played by play with the Colts. I

525
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: get that you're trying to defeat that team, but the

526
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: love and enjoy that you know about talking about the

527
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds and wanting to fight me when I say

528
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: how Morris was average at best and Barry Larkin wasn't

529
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: that good, but not the same with the Bengals. You're

530
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: just kind of whole home. Is it just because you

531
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: you're in this league or what? Well? Ibe, I grew

532
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: up here and I, you know, had a football team here,

533
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: Like the closest baseball team I had was in Cincinnati

534
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: with a baseball team. Guys, Yeah, I got you, So

535
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Anyway, Come on, you didn't watch Carson

536
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: Palmer and be like, man, I love this guy and

537
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: get you fired up. Back in the day Boomer size

538
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: and didn't move the needle back in Indianapolis, Okay, make

539
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: tell you gotta hobbled Patrick Mahomes. He's hosting Joe Burrow

540
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: on the road. I want to hear what you guys

541
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: like in the NFC. Excuse me AFC this weekend. I

542
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: like the Cincinnati Bengals. So how about that for you?

543
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I mean, if you look at

544
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the teams, this is

545
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: what's the point I was trying to make. In terms

546
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: of turnover and giveaways and taking care of the football.

547
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs are sort of the outlier among

548
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: the four teams that are left in terms of what

549
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: you need to do to win close football games. Turnover

550
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: margin San Francisco in the regular season number one, Philadelphia

551
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: number three, Cincinnati number six, Kansas City number twenty two.

552
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: All right, giveaways San Francisco three, Cincinnati four, Philadelphia five

553
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: in terms of least giveaways right, Kansas City number seventeen. Wow.

554
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: So defensively they're sort of average. They're not taking the

555
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: football away. Offensively, they can be careless, but they can

556
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: score quickly, right. They can get back into games very

557
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: very fast. They can erase deficits. If you're Cincinnati, you

558
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: gotta be going there thinking we are the kryptonite of

559
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: this Kansas City team three straight up. They beat him

560
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: three times in a calendar year in twenty twenty two. Yeah,

561
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Cincinnati's going to go into this game

562
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: intimidate it at all and overwhelmed by the crowd and

563
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: the magnitude of the situation. So I like Cincinnati to win.

564
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: I think they're a better complete football team. I like Cincinnati.

565
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: The one factor is, no matter what happens with Patrick

566
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: Mahomes this week, I mean, it would take a lot more,

567
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I think than a high and goal sprain to keep

568
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: him out of the game. It'll certainly limit him because

569
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: of a quarterback who is so known for his mobility

570
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: and escapability, and he can make somebody plays with his legs.

571
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, Chatty chat Henley looked pretty dark and

572
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: good right in that situateen years. If it comes down

573
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: to it and he has to step in the other

574
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: thing is, no matter what happens at quarterback, you have

575
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey who apparently absolutely no one can stop. So

576
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: I don't think that's one thing for me is like

577
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: there is obviously, you know, this kind of question surrounding

578
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: what Patrick's availability will be or what his health will

579
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: be going into that game. They are still going to

580
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: be problematic because of the factors that they have, primarily

581
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: in Travis Kelsey, who in my opinion, is going to

582
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: go down as the greatest tight end of all time.

583
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: What saying it right now anyway, right now, will surpass

584
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: He'll surpass he will surpass Gron absolutely without questions, first

585
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. I think he will be hello done,

586
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: that's far from done, and he has he's gonna have passed.

587
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: He's not a great He's just not a great blocking

588
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: tight end though, I mean weapon wise, yes, absolutely, he's

589
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: more like a receiver than he has a type. That's

590
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: just what they don't care about block. But that's how

591
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: But that's just how how do you How do you

592
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: get fourteen catches in one game and in a playoff game?

593
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: How is that costs? But I will say I do

594
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: think that Cincinnati is just seemingly three three I mean

595
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: three boxes check for Cincinnati in the FC. May take

596
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: quickly go to the NFC because we're gonna play you

597
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: win or you out now right after this, I want

598
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: to figure this thing out, So I gotta take a

599
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: minute for you in, you out, But listen, go to

600
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: the NFC. This is a great one. Perdie's going on

601
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the road. Jalen Hurts at home. Jalen Hurts MVP candidate?

602
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: Does he win the MVP this year? Or did the

603
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: game's missed hurt hurt his chances? Were? We looking out

604
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: out there? No, tell me what's going on in the NFC.

605
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: Philly does not have any weaknesses, at least not glaring

606
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: weaknesses within their team. I mean, I think they've got

607
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: the best roster top to bottom. You said, Hurts, he's

608
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: playing fantastic right now. They are some Michael Jordan comparisons

609
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: from his head coach. If you saw that? Did you

610
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: hear that? Oh yeah, Serrianni, take a breath, Okay, I

611
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: heard the Little Caesar's comment. Was that it? No, Michael

612
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: Jordan was not eating Little Caesar's pizza after the Flu game. No,

613
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: who was eating? Was? Was Jalen Hurts eating? Nick Sirianni

614
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: after the game said he was gonna order Little Caesar's

615
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: pizza to celebrate. Oh I didn't All right, Yeah I

616
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: didn't hear that. I didn't either. Um here I'm finding

617
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: the exact quote. But keep talking. And then I'll come

618
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: in with this. I'm just saying, if if you beat

619
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: the Giants for the third time, or if you play

620
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: the Giants for the third time and you beat him

621
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: thirty eight to seven, I mean that's doing something right there.

622
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: That they're playing like a team that blitzed out to

623
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: their thirteen and one start to begin this season. The

624
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: offensive lines playing great. They ran for two sixty eight. Again,

625
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: they don't have any chinks in that armor. DeVante Smith

626
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: and Goddard and A. J. Brown, They're just loaded, dude,

627
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: they are. And I think with Purdy, I think he's

628
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna come into this game and he's gonna turn into

629
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: a pumpkin. To steal a line from Rick Finurry, He's

630
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna come in and turn into a pumpkin. He's gonna

631
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: be asked. They're gonna get down that game. He's gonna

632
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: be asked to make plays. He's gonna be asked to

633
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: do things that he hasn't done so far in terms

634
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: of managing the game, and you know, kind of deviating

635
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: away from that conservative game approach on the road. They're

636
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna get down ten points. He's gonna have to go

637
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: make a play and step outside of himself a little bit,

638
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Speaker 1: and I think that's where the Philly defense gets him. Okay,

639
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: so I'm quoting an article here from NBC Sports that said,

640
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Speaker 1: shortly after the Eagles dispatched the Giants in the Divisional

641
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Speaker 1: round by a score of thirty eight to seven, Sirianni

642
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: attempted to explain what it's like for his team to

643
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Speaker 1: have a healthy Jalen Hurts on the field. This is

644
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Speaker 1: what he came up with, end I quote. It's like

645
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: having Michael Jordan out there. He's your leader, he's your guy,

646
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: he would go on to explain. As well as he's

647
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: running the football as well as he's throwing the football,

648
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: reading defenses, accurate throws, as well as he's done all that,

649
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: what you notice first about Hurts is his will to win,

650
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: his competitive drive. That comparison is kind of in that

651
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: aspect of it. Again, was I around Michael Jordan? No,

652
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: But I was able to watch him afar when I

653
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: was a kid. But then they're also able to watch

654
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: these documentaries and see the common denominator of those things.

655
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: The first thing you asked me about Jalen, I always

656
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: talk about those things, all the intangibles that he has.

657
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: He goes on to explain ridiculous comparison, in my opinion, ridiculous.

658
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we're having sex success with the thing. You

659
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, But all right, move on. It

660
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: can't you can't blame him for the confidence. That's the thing, Like,

661
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: is there a current coach in the NFL that more

662
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: greatly reflects like the fan base than like fieriness and

663
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: like the swagger of Nick Sirianni and just his I mean,

664
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Speaker 1: Nick has this kind of zero f's given, you know,

665
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: which is such a philly type of thing. Did you

666
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: see him arguing with the ref when he's like, I'm

667
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Speaker 1: allowed to be down here, Like, yeah, it's so, it's so,

668
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: it's so great, it's hilarious. I mean, I do I

669
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Speaker 1: think that. I'm so excited for Nick Sirianni and for

670
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Speaker 1: all of the guys who were there, you know, took

671
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, plenty of coaches from this staff there, guy

672
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: like Zach Pascal who was there with him, and you know,

673
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of that with Nick when

674
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Speaker 1: he was here. But now being in the position that

675
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: he's in as a head coach, and you can just

676
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: tell that he's one of those guys who that group,

677
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: that roster, that locker room fights so hard for their

678
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: coach because he's not afraid to go out there and

679
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: make those type of comparisons and be the vocal guy

680
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: and kind of put it all out there too. Because

681
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but we saw his initial press conference little rocky,

682
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: a little rocky, and you're like, wow, I mean you're

683
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: trying to get behind this market and look he's done man.

684
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you've gotta be hard to get by.

685
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Joe Cool is gonna be taken on. I like that.

686
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Speaker 1: I like that matchup to a lot. I got Cincinnati Philadelphia. Okay,

687
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: we let's get into some you in or out. We're

688
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Speaker 1: gonna bring JJ Stankovitz from Colts dot Com to senior

689
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Speaker 1: writer in here. You in or you out. We're starting

690
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Speaker 1: with double J J J. Stankovitz really quick. You wer

691
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Speaker 1: out on a Super Bowl consisting of Joe Cool taking

692
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Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts. I'm in on that. You're in on

693
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Speaker 1: that that Bengals team is playing pissed off. They're gonna

694
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Speaker 1: make it yep, fair enough. On the other side, you

695
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Speaker 1: like Philly to do what they're doing. Yo. Yeah, yeah,

696
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Speaker 1: the way Sirianni's getting stuff schemed up there the way

697
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken is calling those plays. Yeah, I'm in on them. Okay,

698
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: time to play it. Here we go. Thank you for

699
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Speaker 1: that quick you know, exit ramp there, double J you enter,

700
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Speaker 1: you out. I love this game. The thing is gonna

701
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: be a Wink Martindale hosted game. And I'm not talking

702
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: about the defensive Bard I'm not talking about I'm talking

703
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: about the legendary Wink Martin. What's the game show he host?

704
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Speaker 1: It was that match game? He was on the luck

705
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: he was he had so many I used to do

706
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot of game show Network back in the day,

707
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: like during college, when you'd have like a race, you know,

708
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Speaker 1: you'd be done with classes at like one pm. I'd

709
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: go home, toss on a little game show network. Who

710
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: is the guy that always kissed the ladies? Richard Dawson.

711
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: Richard Dawson as so really quick, we're gonna get Richard

712
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Dawson ended come on, man, come on fair start all right,

713
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: real quick. I know I was on a game show

714
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Speaker 1: that Wink Martindale hosted. You were called Debt d Ebt.

715
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Speaker 1: You had to say, Hey, I'm in debt. I have

716
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Speaker 1: a chance to win and pay off my bills for this.

717
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: And it was literally somewhere. I used to live down

718
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Speaker 1: the street from CBS Studios in southern California another lifetime ago,

719
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: and they said, hey, we're looking for contest contestants. I

720
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I fill this out. Okay, they called

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Speaker 1: me up. I'm like, do it eliminary test for a

722
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Speaker 1: rockhead like me to get on a show. It worked, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Eric. It's on YouTube somewhere because so, did

724
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Speaker 1: they create a storyline for you? It was no. I

725
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Speaker 1: just said I was a m I said I was

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Speaker 1: a fertilizer salesman from from southern California, and I'm in

727
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Speaker 1: dad up to eight thousand dollars for this or that.

728
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Speaker 1: And I did that because my dad would say always

729
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: say when I was growing up, son, you're a salesman

730
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Speaker 1: with a mouthful of samples. So I was a fertilizer

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Speaker 1: salesman a wake Martindale and he said I reminded him

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Speaker 1: of a young Robert Redford at the time, because it

733
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Speaker 1: was in the nineties, it's out there on YouTube. I

734
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Speaker 1: was the first one eliminated. You're the first one, just

735
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Speaker 1: one to eliminated. Yeah, I couldn't gonna spend all day

736
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Speaker 1: looking for Melrose Place was a category and I was like,

737
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Speaker 1: I don't watch this show, and it was one of them.

738
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Speaker 1: I just I butchered it and I was the first show. Yeah,

739
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: it's a trivia game show, question and answer type of things,

740
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: and I swear my friend Dan Buyer from Fox Sports

741
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Radio sent me a clip of this a couple of

742
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: years ago. So it is on YouTube somewhere. But debt

743
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Speaker 1: hosted by weight Dan. If you're listening at that CEO box.

744
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, JJ stakum, it's for Sharp. I'm starting

745
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: it out. You enter you out. Coach need to hire

746
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: an offensive minded head coach, considering how far the offense

747
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: fell last season. You wenter you out, I'm out. I

748
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: talked about it earlier on the pod, where you don't

749
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Speaker 1: have to hire an offensive coach, even if you're gonna

750
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Speaker 1: have a young quarterback and you're trying to fix the offense,

751
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: but you have to have the right structure around that quarterback.

752
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a defensive coach. It has

753
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: to be the right offensive structure. And again those two

754
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: things do not have to be the same. Mann Taylor,

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Speaker 1: you enter you out. I'm I'm gonna tweak it to

756
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: answer it. I'm gonna say I'm in on needing fresh

757
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: perspective of the offense. You have to hire state of

758
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the art, modern coach to grow a young quarterback. If

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00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: you decide to go that route in the draft and

760
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: fix the passing game, that quite frankly, outside of last year,

761
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean the last couple of years, it hasn't been

762
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: on par for this franchise to make a deep run

763
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, or to get into the playoffs for that matter.

764
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Speaker 1: So I'm in on fresh perspective, state of the art

765
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator as a head coach, or to bring in

766
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: fresh perspective to fix the past. Hello, are you saying

767
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: no defensive minded coach should be hired? You enter you out. No,

768
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that doesn't matter as much to me.

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Speaker 1: What matters more to me is that someone has a

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00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: vision for how to construct an offensive staff, whether he

771
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: is an offensive, defensive or a special teams minded man.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, you enter you out. I like this. We're

773
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Speaker 1: gonna stick with l O. Number two. The Colts have

774
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Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback because they are picking in the

775
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Speaker 1: top four. The Colts have to keywords have to you enter,

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Speaker 1: you out, capital I, capital in, capital in, gotta get

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00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: that quarterback double jo I'm out because if three quarterbacks

778
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: go off the board for you're picking at four and

779
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: you reach for the wrong quarterback, that sets your franchise

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Speaker 1: back farther ding ding Ding. I like this answer. I

781
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: think it's the finest one. He's kind of right. What

782
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Speaker 1: if there's a big offensive tackle up there at that

783
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: position at your or an edge rusher to everybody watch,

784
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Speaker 1: or a defensive tackle not maning any names right now,

785
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: but all three quarterbacks are gone that are supposedly in

786
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: the top four. Don't put yourself in a position that

787
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: that happens. Oh, I see what you're saying, Move up, moving,

788
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: No feel strong enough, strongly enough about moving Every every

789
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: single quarterback in the AFC playoff field this year was

790
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: drafted by their team in the first round. And what

791
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the average age is about twenty five and what a

792
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Speaker 1: nine hind say? I mean, just the different quarterback the

793
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: offensive quarterback carousel. We've been dealing with it for the

794
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: last four or five years, and we get we're trying

795
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Speaker 1: to build chemistry and cohesion and we're trying to get

796
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: on the same page with this guy in training camp

797
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: and the first couple of weeks of the season. But

798
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: unfortunately you don't get on the same page until history

799
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Speaker 1: is shown weeks five, six seven. Last year, the Colts were,

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00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, they were fighting an uphill battle because of

801
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: the AFC South woes that were stacked against them to

802
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: start the season. So I think it's time listen. I

803
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: know it's not the popular answer here, but Chris Ballard said,

804
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: in addition to saying like you mentioned Lara, that yes,

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Speaker 1: I would trade for someone if we thought he was

806
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the guy, he also said it's about getting it right.

807
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: If you just draft a quarterback because you well you

808
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: need one and this guys here needs fourth on our board,

809
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: then that is going You're gonna wind up looking like

810
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: you could build a great team around that quarterback and

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Speaker 1: you could go seven and ten like the New York

812
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: Jets did that. That is an outcome that could happen.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Layer and I both understand that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we I don't want to speak

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Speaker 1: for Layer, we're saying I think we're speaking in absolutes here.

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00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: No we're not. I don't think we're speaking in absolutes.

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: But we're saying, is it time? Yeah, it's time. Oh,

818
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: it's absolutely time. It's absolutely time. But I don't. I

819
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Speaker 1: think you just can't speak in absolutes about these things

820
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: because if you do, you do. Yeah, you definitely can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't force an evaluation. We all understand that. But

822
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Speaker 1: if if the evaluation matches up with where you're picking,

823
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: then absolutely it's time to you know, to to build.

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Speaker 1: I'm an LS camp, Move up, get your guy. If

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00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: you got to move up, move up. Hey, it's it's

826
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Speaker 1: it's go time. On this one, I also think that

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Speaker 1: it's it's a good time because you are going to

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Speaker 1: have a coach who can mold this per and immediately

829
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Speaker 1: imprint what he needs to do to develop this quarterback

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00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: for the NFL, rather than taking a guy who you're inheriting,

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Speaker 1: who comes from different systems that you're trying to mold

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Speaker 1: and fit this piece into what you have and you're

833
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: forced to work with them. Okay, let's not be long

834
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Speaker 1: on this one. On the Jaguars now team to beat

835
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Speaker 1: in the AFC. Right now you enter you have JJ.

836
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Speaker 1: It's not even close to I'm in, You're in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's close. They are the team to

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Speaker 1: beat in the FC salth not just because they're defending champions,

839
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Speaker 1: the talent they have in that roster, the coaches they

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Speaker 1: have in that team. And by the way, I was

841
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: just talking about this with our our friend Casey Valley

842
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: out here. Oh yeah, you know what they really need.

843
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: They need like a little more juice at wide receiver.

844
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Speaker 1: They're only just gonna get Calvin Ridley back next year.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I forgot about that. Oh hi, oh hi,

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that, all right? Moving around a horn Jaguars, Ye,

847
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: your name and no chance. Actually I'm saying, but what

848
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you guys is they are winning the

849
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: AFC South next year. True or false. That's what I'm

850
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: saying right now. But I know what we're gonna say

851
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: on that. I know they're good, But can I say

852
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: this the complete flip. Before having the worst record going around,

853
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: they last year least questions. They have the least questions

854
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: surrounding their ros. I mean, yes, you are correct. I'm

855
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna shut up on that. Hello, just shut me up, mate,

856
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: right Finally, finally, all right, I'm starting with you, matey.

857
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: Despite our potential log jam at linebacker, we got Shack

858
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Leonard out there coming back healthy. The Colts need to

859
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: resign Bobby o'karaca in free agency. What say you you in?

860
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: Are you out? I want to be in, but I

861
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: just don't know how this is going to play out.

862
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: It's like we talked about last week. I think on

863
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: the last word, Jeffrey, I think it boils down to

864
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: the health and the return of Shack Leonard versus the

865
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: amount of investment in dollars you already have at linebacker.

866
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Zaire Franklin is under contract, you paid him.

867
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: Shack Leonard's coming back. He got paid what two summers

868
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: ago in training camp in twenty twenty one, chains right,

869
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: So if he comes back this is a hypothetical and

870
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, to JJ's play, if we're speaking in absolutes,

871
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: if he absolutely comes back fully healthy next season, you

872
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: don't keep him off the field for what he can

873
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: do in terms of ripping the football away and creating takeaway.

874
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: So he's got a spot based on what Zaire Franklin

875
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: did last year? How do he take him off the field?

876
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: He proved that he can be one of the best

877
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: linebackers in the game. I mean, he set a franchise

878
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: record for tackles in a season, so that makes it

879
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: very hard. I think just from a roster construction standpoint

880
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: and free agency with Bobbio Kake and EJ. Speed, you'd

881
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: love to have both of those guys back, But it

882
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: just boils down to how many times do you play

883
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: three linebackers on the field at the same time and

884
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: how much money can you invest at one position? JJ,

885
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: we got three starters and only two starting positions. Go Yeah,

886
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm probably out on the need here, and

887
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: I might be even more in on bringing EJ. Speedback

888
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: because you consider Bobbio Karaka deserves to be paid like

889
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: a starter. He deserves to be a starting MIC or

890
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: will linebacker somewhere. The Colts probably can't offer that, right, Laro,

891
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: what do you think Bobbio Kake? I would love for

892
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: there at least to be an attempt. You know, you

893
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: at least make an offer, and so I'm in on

894
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: pursuing him, but probably not over spending or over a

895
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: region because you feel like you. I absolutely need to,

896
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: because I do feel like that he will command a

897
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: lot of interest from other organizations, primarily a guy just

898
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: up I sixty five who loves and Matt Eberflus. So

899
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: I do think that you could see Eberflus try to

900
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: talk the Bears into coming up with a pretty healthy

901
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: offer for a guy like Bobbio kare K. Putting him

902
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: in a prominent position, it's already a defense that he has,

903
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, proven to have knowledge within, thrive within all

904
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: of those things. So I'm kind of curious that what

905
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: the competition will be for a guy like Bobbiokay, can

906
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: we keep this? You enter you out in? Yeah? Are

907
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: you wait a minute? You enter you out on you outer?

908
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: You in? I mean I'm in outer, you're in, Yeah,

909
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm in. No, it's inner out, it's inner out. Yeah.

910
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm game. Let's do this next week, don't forget. Coming

911
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: up this week on the Colts Audio Network, The Last Word,

912
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: the Colts off season radio show, airs Friday night at

913
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: six pm on ninety three five and one oh seven

914
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: five The Fan That's with Me Hacking My Way Through

915
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: with Matt Taylor. It'll also be available on demand at

916
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: colch dot com, the Coach Mobile app, and the Colts

917
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Audio Network. I've been waiting for this one for a while.

918
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. I don't care what

919
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: the theory is. Llo. I don't care what he found

920
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: in the chest box under the sea. I don't care

921
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: what it is. This is JJ stak if it's his

922
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: random thought of the week, and I'm gonna tear it

923
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: apart somehow, some way, because I like to go into

924
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: a courtroom like setting with you, j J. Let's go.

925
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: There's a good You know, we butt heads a little

926
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: bit on this stuff, even when I'm in the wrong. Listen,

927
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you're always in the wrong when it comes

928
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: to Portillo's. But this is about. This is about I

929
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: was thinking. I was thinking thinking today with the snowstorm

930
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: coming up with Sizzler, what's that one calls sizzler? What's

931
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: that stuff calling? No, the guys back in the day,

932
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: coming a box and you put it up and then

933
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: be real to thin steakums. Oh yeah, yeah, you're comparing

934
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: portis jj JJ. It has been a minute for me

935
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: to get my hands around this. It is steak get out.

936
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's the thinnest steakums. I will give that

937
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: to you. It's better. It's I don't know what that's

938
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: beef in a box. I'm just taking though. You get

939
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: a skillet out. It's like very sliced frozen U skirt

940
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: like skirts, steak kill comes out green depending on your

941
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: fridge freezer. Actually, what did you get? Like the swans?

942
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: He like? What was this? Stay still make steakoms Go

943
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: to your local grocery freezer section and then look up

944
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: steak up. Yeah, I don't know, J. I'm not often

945
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: perusing the frozen beefs. I'm just gonna say, oh, okay,

946
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all right, go ahead, j J. Random thought

947
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: of the week. So, got the snowstorm coming up on Wednesday.

948
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm dreading it because I'm like, oh my god, I'm

949
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna close my kids daycare. We're gonna have to, you know,

950
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: entertain the kids at home. I'm gonna have to shovel

951
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: out the driveway. Potentially, my wife is gonna have no

952
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: no school that day, which means we're gonna have to

953
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: cut our vacation short. That we're going that too next month.

954
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Whole thing on that. So, at what age do you

955
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: go from thinking snow is magical and awesome too? I

956
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: can't believe it's gonna snow. This is so annoying and

957
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm dreading it. At what age? At what age can

958
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I go first? Yeah, like nine or ten. Yeah, that's

959
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: when I My thought was, it's when you first learn

960
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: how bad shoveling is as an activity. Like all right, JJ,

961
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: you're old enough to go shovel the sidewalk, and you're like,

962
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: I don't want it to snow anymore. Sledding is fun,

963
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: but I don't want to shovel. But after three days

964
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: of sledding or two days of sledding, and everything becomes gray,

965
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: and then it's pushed off to the side and it's

966
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: not there, and then it's black. Then the ice, the

967
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: ice sheet that's there. It's gorgeous when it's coming down.

968
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's a Hallmark card. I love it, and

969
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, this is beautiful, but ello overall snow

970
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: and then it turns Yeah, I'm gonna say like five,

971
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably out on snow, like the first time I

972
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: realized it's cold af out there. Like on the moment

973
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: you're like sledding, You're like this is fun. No, and

974
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: then you're like, I got this crep inside him a

975
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: snowsuit and it's like, you know, it's like vacuum sealed

976
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: my ends, but it manages to get in there and

977
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: it's just all cold crevices. My dad, I'll never forget this. God,

978
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: God love him. My dad, fair and square lair. He

979
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: used to make us put whenever it's young. When I

980
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: was in that five seven ten year ray, you put

981
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: your sock on and then you put it in a

982
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: plastic bag. Yeah, and then you put it in your boot. Oh.

983
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, my foot slides around way too much

984
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: like this, and if I'm catching out patterns before, you know,

985
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: before school, but recess, all the bust shot. I can't

986
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: move because my foot. You're putting your foot in that

987
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: plastic bag or it will be shopped. I'm like, dude,

988
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: you gave me Eskimo boots for a reason. Did anybody

989
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: else do that? Oh? Yeah? Absolute, I had the moon

990
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: boots like Napoleon Dynamite out there, you know like those, Yeah,

991
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: marching around little. But then the worst is when the

992
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: snow gets in the boot. Oh yeah, and then it's

993
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: just like around your ankle. Ter. That's how it wasn't Buffalo.

994
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: That's how it wasn't Buffalo. Yeah, twenty seventeen. Yeah, literally,

995
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: I only go to Buffalo for preseason. It literally snowed.

996
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: It snowed maybe like eight inches in an hour and

997
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: a half. Quite swear. Yeah, just coldest I've ever done

998
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: in my life. Did that give you flashbacks? Watching the

999
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: game on Sunday it wasn't as significant. Oh no, nothing,

1000
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: nothing will ever get me. I mean, it's it's gonna

1001
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: have probably the snowstorm they had in November. It's the closest.

1002
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: Obviously that was betterly, you know, more more serious, but

1003
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: just in terms of watching a game, yeah, I don't.

1004
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's gonna be for that. The

1005
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: big dump's coming this Wednesday, I guess, in the afternoon

1006
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: of Wednesday, according up, according to you know, my sources,

1007
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: and then it goes in overnight. So we're all like, oh,

1008
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: this is beautiful and look at how elegant it is.

1009
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: And it wasn't. Wasn't last week the anniversary of the

1010
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Blizzard of seventy eight, like the forty fifth anniversary of it,

1011
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: or sometimes I heard that was nasty though, Oh yeah,

1012
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: that was My point is it's wonderful and Wednesday, oh

1013
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: this is gorgeous. It's so clean, it's so white, it's

1014
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: so and by Thursday afternoon you're like, get the hell

1015
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: out of I don't get anything that impedes my ability

1016
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: to do what I want to and you gotta you gotta,

1017
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Plus you've gotta get your mind. By the way, you

1018
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: gotta get your Miley on Thursday. You gotta get your

1019
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: your Hello, you're You're mile. I don't like to do

1020
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: anything that impedes on what I want to do, right.

1021
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: That is the understatement of this podcast I'm trying to get.

1022
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: Being inconvenienced is like just the word. First it is

1023
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: you run in the snow. You do run the snow

1024
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: six inches. Yeah, So we're fortunate that our our street

1025
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: normally gets plowed pretty quickly. So I also have the

1026
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: floodwall there, so I'll go run on the floodwall. And hey,

1027
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: you can shag too, if you guys don't know what

1028
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: that is. We can all shag if you want to

1029
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: meet up on Wednesday night and shag no no, no, no, no,

1030
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: no shaggy Midwestern term not that not from shag no. Uh.

1031
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Your bus would leave or your friend's car would leave,

1032
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: and then you'd hook your your fingers on the back

1033
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: bumper and they would drag you. It's called shagging, just

1034
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: going down the street. Remember I remember that being called skitching.

1035
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: Skitching Okay, that's a Chicago or whatever there you go from.

1036
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: But that's what we did. Uh. In hindsight, you need

1037
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: a helmet. It was about as dumb as you can get,

1038
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: because you could be rolling under the back tire accidentally

1039
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: or anything like that. A lot a lot of games

1040
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: of being played this weekend. Never played Yuker. That was

1041
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: actually on a Twitter thread with jam because he claims

1042
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: that he's never played Yuker and he was asking other

1043
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: people who and I've never played. I can't crasp how

1044
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: do you how do you live in this area and

1045
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: not play a hand of uk I've never played Yuker either.

1046
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this is it because you don't?

1047
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: Are you adverse to learning? Or like, how did you

1048
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: get too old to learn how to play a card game?

1049
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: The same? Like, I just saying I'm on board with this.

1050
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Learn I learned how to play was like six grades

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Speaker 1: and Matt Tayler Casey Valie. This is a true story.

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Speaker 1: According to Yuker Today, which is a daily publication, I

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Speaker 1: am ranked in the top twenty five in the state

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Speaker 1: of Indiana. Yes, you've been on You've been on a

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Speaker 1: show with Wink Martindale and you're a top twenty five Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: I just made that up. But don't it song Today

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Speaker 1: a daily publication. I don't advocate for Yuker because at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's really a mindless game.

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Speaker 1: It's more like a time killer. Yuker is what you

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Speaker 1: do when you have five people, meaning up at one place,

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Speaker 1: and you're waiting on one guy to get there. So

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Speaker 1: there's four of you, so you just start playing yukas

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Speaker 1: talking about a game that these two know no idea about.

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Speaker 1: It is like people talking about their face fantasy football team.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, and also I'm gonna bug out,

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Speaker 1: yeah with Yuker. Why is it that every time you

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Speaker 1: play Yuker, you play a hand and everybody has to

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Speaker 1: relive the hand. Well, you had the nine, so I

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Speaker 1: played the ten to draw you out? Did you I

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Speaker 1: knew you had the bower? It's like, guys, why do

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Speaker 1: we do that? I am that? Why do we have

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Speaker 1: to do the play by play after nine? Queen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me let me bring it when? When But do

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Speaker 1: you do the play by play and you're play by

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Speaker 1: play voice? Well, like in my head, I'm like I

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Speaker 1: know as she has, so here you know I can't.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get one trick to help my partner. It's like,

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Speaker 1: why do we have to relive the whole thing? Oh

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Speaker 1: Yuker Today, a daily publication doesn't exist, Guys, I had

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