1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should know from house stuff 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Josh Clark and Charles W. Chuck Bryant's with me, so 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: stuff you should know. And Jerry of course is here, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: who just celebrated a birthday. Yeah, happy birthday, Jerry in 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Run our Indian sweat lodge that we call 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: a recording booth. Yeah, man, that's hot. Yeah. Part of 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: it's this thing. You want to turn this off, just 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: this It really does put out a tremendous amount of heat. Yeah, 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Josh's we have a lamp on our table that we 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: used to see. Well we can't see any longer. Oh 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: well blin'd blind. Yeah, that did make it like three 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: cooler immediately. Yeah, it's that lamp. It's the lamp. And 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: then like you know, just people generating heating here. Yeah, 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: podcasters were a ball me bunch, the blusters, a herd 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: of oxen in the corner. And it doesn't help. It's 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: been the best intro ever I think. Do you think that? 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: I think so you're not being facetious. No, you know 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: the word facetious. What do you got for me? Well, 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: when I was younger, I knew the word facetious. It 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: was a word that my dad used a lot, so 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: I used it in like regular conversation correct yeah, okay, 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: but I've never seen it written out, or so I thought. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: And then finally one day I ran across in a 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: book again this word I kept coming up on, and 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: I was like, what is that word fastidious? Facidious, facious? 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's facetious. I don't know that 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I've seen it spelled either. Yeah, it looks like factious, 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, it looks like facet like a facet of 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: a jewel or something. And then E s I O 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: U S. Yeah, there's no I would have so bombed 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: the spelling of that, right. But the thing is, it's 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: like I was using it correctly in conversation, and I 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: had seen it in books. I just never put the 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: two together until finally one day it clicked and you 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: had to get your tattoo changed. Facetious across the back 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: of your neck in the heart, all right. So um skateboarding. Yeah, 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: about the same time that I realized the word facetious 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: when it was correctly spelled, as I was skateboarding at 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the time. So that's how it ties in that was 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: a little skateboarder for a long time. Yeah, I was too. 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: I Um, I did not. I'm not old enough to 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: where I saw all the different waves of skateboarding. Of 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: the four, but the first two I saw, I didn't 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: see the first one. That's pretty funny. That would mean 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm dead now. There's plenty of old boarders out there, sure, yeah, 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: but I was of the age where I definitely had 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: the um small sort of plastic board with the single 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: little tail on the back only and clay wheels. No, no, yeah, 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: clay wheels. It seems to me like that the skateboards 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: from from biblical times. Clay wheels. That's what I think 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: of when I see clay wheels. What do they even 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: look like? Uh? Just brown? Were they super dangerous? Well? Yeah, 54 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: And if you've seen the great documentary um Dogtown and 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: z Boys they go over. It's a really good doc 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: by the way, like amazing footage that they have and 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: good music and highly recommended over the movie version. The 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Lords of Dogtown was Val Kilmer in that, No, Heath 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Ledger was. He played the the mentor. I can't remember 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: his name. Skip the Zephyr Crew, yes, skip skip Skip 61 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: went on to found Santa Monic Airline Skateboards. Yeah, yeah, 62 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: he was. He stayed on. It's like a big influence 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: in skateboarding's good. So anyway, I just wanted to point 64 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: out that I have branched a few different Like I 65 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: started with a little clay one, and then in high 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: school is when I got the big, huge fat skateboard 67 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: when they were super obnoxious. Yeah, let's see, that's when 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: I came into skating. Four had like a nice Lance Mountain. Um, 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: it was my first board. My first board, remember the 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: Nash tough tops there was it was blank on the bottom, 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: there were no graphics, but on the top cut out 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: in the grip tape was like a star that looked 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of like a saw blade circular saw blade. And 74 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: then the big difference was the different colors of the 75 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: board underneath blue or pink or yellow or what it 76 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: was like neon green. Yeah, you're a big fat one. 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: Yeah and looking back like kind of corny. And I 78 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: think after that is when like true skater started being like, 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, we don't really care that much about like 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: awesome graphics, Like we just want a good board, good board. 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: You wanted some rib bones, on the side. You remember 82 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: those underneath. Yeah, yeah, but I don't think people like 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: those now either. Oh no, not anymore skaters. No, that 84 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: that the whole point of those. I think it was, 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, to let you rail slide or whatever easier. 86 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: But I think it was also to protect those graphics too. 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: They told he was because I had a little big 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: plastic bumper under the tailpiece too, which is counterintuitive to 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: the tricks. Yeah, but I mean, like, who cares about 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: protecting the tail It's weird. Yeah. I was also a 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: nosebone too. That was not never very good. Oh I 92 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: wasn't either. I don't mean to give that. I mean 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of our skating and I never 94 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: got very good. I think I pulled off one kick 95 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: flip once, really once. That's good. I thought it was 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: pretty good too. That is the trick that you most 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: often see kids not landing driving down the street. If 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: you ever see a kid like I, rarely see a 99 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: successful kickflip just on the sidewalk. Oh yeah. If you 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: see somebody who pulls off a kick flip, the chances 101 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: are there somebody filming them because they know that they're 102 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to pull off the kickflip in 103 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: l A. Actually I would see more, you know, obviously 104 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: better skaters out there in New York. Yeah, all right, skateboarding. 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: Should we get going with a little history. Yeah, let's 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: talk about the history of this. This this is so 107 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: close to my heart. Man, I fell down the rabbit 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: hole to day watching like old skate videos and like 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: checking out old Powell Peralta boards. That was my dam 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: was Powell. Well, we mentioned that there have been four 111 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: distinct waves of skateboarding starting in UH ninety nine, and 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: each new wave like it's it's just waned in popularity 113 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: here and there and then come back strong or in 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: stronger due to either UH advances mainly in like skateboard 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: technology right and trickery, yes, and um parental acceptance. Because 116 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: it never really goes away. Skateboarding is either ever since 117 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: its inception, it's either been mainstream or else forced underground 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: and like practiced by juvenile delinquents who kind of kept 119 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: it going and advanced it quietly until it came back 120 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: into the mainstream and parents were like, Okay, you guys 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: can skate again. But the true origin of the skateboard, 122 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: the first one that came out, the first commercial produced 123 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: when it was in nineteen fifty nine. It's called the 124 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: roller derbry skate. Yeah. And before that, you know, if 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: you've seen the movie Back to the Future when Martin 126 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: might Fly rips the little milk crate off the front 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: of the homemade wooden scooter, that was where skateboards really 128 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: came from. You just you know, it was a sort 129 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: of a homemade deal with like a peach crate as 130 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the front of your scooter, a couple of handles. Yes, 131 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: steal wheels from roller skates, yeah, and that was super dangerous, right, 132 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: But like you say, if you take the peach crate 133 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: off and take the handles off, you have that two 134 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: by four with the roller skate wheels. And they don't 135 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: know exactly who did it. They think actually several people 136 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: probably did it simultaneously Marty right in the forties. They 137 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: think surfers in California did it. There are kids in 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: France that were seen doing it in the forties, so 139 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: it kind of spread. It happened, it arose independently around 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: the world at about the same time. That's called the zeitgeist. 141 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: That is my friend. So now we're in the nineties, 142 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 1: early nineteen sixties and it was I mean it really 143 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: took off like a rocket in the first few years 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: of the nineteen sixties. Like fifty million skateboards were sold 145 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: in those first three years and it was everywhere. Yeah, 146 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: it was like the hot new craze. Well it was 147 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: like also like hula hoops and things like that, Like 148 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: it was America was in a crazy mood, a craze mood, 149 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: like whatever the big thing was, Yeah, and skateboard fell 150 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: into that big time. The problem is, uh, they were 151 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: pretty dangerous. There wasn't a lot you could do with 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: them now they because again there's steel wheels there. It's 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: basically two by four on steel wheels, ride down the 154 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: street and you could fall off of it exactly. That 155 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: was so and I think because of the safety concerns 156 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: overnight skateboarding just went away in like nineteen sixty five. 157 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: It was over, but it's still kind of stayed somewhat 158 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: popular as a thing to do among surfers. When the 159 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: waves weren't breaking, Um, they would just kind of sidewalk 160 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: surface what they called it, And they never really saw 161 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: it as anything bigger than a supplement to surfing. It 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: was just kind of like it wasn't its own thing 163 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: until uh the sixties, the late sixties or the early seventies, 164 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: when clay wheels came about. You could do a little 165 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: more stuff. I think, Well, clay was better than the 166 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: steel wheels, but still bad. And that's hit a rock 167 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: in the road your toast, and like that's when people 168 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: started dying from skateboards, which kind of led to its 169 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: decline again. Sure, and then some surfers, the Zephyr Crew 170 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: are the ones who like broke skateboarding out once and 171 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: for all. Well, yeah, thanks to uh Frank Nasworthy's invention 172 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: of the Eurothane wheel in nineteen seventy two. Uh he 173 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: founded Cadillac Wheels, and all of a sudden, it was 174 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: like a smooth, like steady, silent experience on a skateboard 175 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: for the first time. And then you changed everything it 176 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: did because it could grip. Um, it wasn't just that 177 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: it was it rumbly any longer like that. You're a 178 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: thing could grip like concrete or pavement. Yeah, instead of 179 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: just stopping and um, yeah, all of a sudden, there 180 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: were way more surfaces that could be skated. And that 181 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: plus the invention of the truck, yeah, which is basically 182 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: an axle for your wheels that not only allows the 183 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: wheels to revolve more smoothly, especially when you add a 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: set of bearings, but it also allows you to maneuver 185 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: to the left or the right, which is a big deal. 186 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: Kind of opens things up there, twisty. And then the 187 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: kicktail also changed everything. All these kind of came together 188 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: at about the same time. Yeah, and you mentioned the 189 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: Zephyr Crew in ve that held the first um uh 190 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: basically competition in Delmark, California, and that's when and if 191 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: you've seen the documentary, it's pretty great. I mean they 192 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: had sort of the holdovers from the sixties doing like 193 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: handstands and all these sort of square, antiquated moves, and 194 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: then these little punks came in there and just like 195 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: toward the place up and like the judges didn't know 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: how to judge them at the time because they've never 197 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: seen anything like it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It was 198 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: a pool. They were skating in pools right well at least, Yeah, 199 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: the pool thing came a little later because they um 200 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: there was a big drought in the mid seventies in 201 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: southern California and water was actually in short supply. So 202 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: people would drain their pools or not refill them or 203 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: whatever for the new summer. And so they started busting 204 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: in the backyards and skating in pools. Yeah, and they 205 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: would bring their own pumps and hoses to drain like 206 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: all the muck out entirely and then just like skate 207 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: that pool. And there was um at one of those pools, 208 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: a kid named Tony Alva who was in that Zephyr crew. 209 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: It was Tony Alva, j Adams, and Stacy Perelta, yeah, 210 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: among others. Right, but those are like the big three. 211 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: Tony I was your guy, right, Stacy Perelta, Oh, I 212 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: thought you were like a huge Tony Alba dude. Okay, No, 213 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: I respect for Tony album, but no, I was always 214 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: pal par Alta. Um. But Tony Alva at one of 215 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: those pools kept going and going and pushing himself harder 216 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: and harder, and then one day he cleared the coping 217 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: of the pool and like caught air, yeah with his 218 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: hand at first, Oh, he did like a hand plant. Yeah, 219 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: that was how that originally came about. But he did 220 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: leave contact with the pool, and no one had ever 221 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: done that, and everyone's like, and that was like the 222 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: creation of vertue style skateboarding. UM and Alva went on 223 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: at like age nineteen and found his own skateboarding company. 224 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: He was the first one to use some Canadian maple Veneers, 225 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about UM. And it was like really innovative, 226 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: especially for a nineteen year old skate punk from southern California. Yeah, 227 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: they all were. Yeah, it's pretty amazing, like this collection 228 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: of kids were. And it most of them ended up 229 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: being like very savvy, like wealthy businessmen like yeah. And 230 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: and right after the del Mar competition, the Zephyr crew 231 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: kind of scattered to the wind and went in and 232 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: found purchase and and expanded skateboarding as a sport and 233 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: as a theme. And one of the things that they 234 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: brought with them from having been part of a crew 235 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: is to form their own crews um of people that 236 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: they sponsored, which made those people pros. And those pros 237 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: would go on tour. And when those pros went on tour, 238 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: they were skating say palm Pearl to skateboards and showing 239 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: local kids what could be done with the skateboard. And 240 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: those kids would go buy pal Pearl to skateboards and 241 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: go out and skate. And it that whole idea of 242 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: doing demos on tour with pros who are sponsored by 243 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: skateboarding companies really helped expand skateboarding in the eighties and 244 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: and created that third wave where skateboarding just became it. Yeah, 245 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean it was big in California and Florida. Like 246 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: my cousins were way into it in Florida early on. 247 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: But it really took off when kids like me and 248 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Georgia and you and Ohio we're skiing, you know, skiing 249 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: skating up my like steep driveway and trying to do 250 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: a little one eight turns going back down like it 251 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: was a wave, and I was, you know, it was 252 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: one of those silly little kids, like was so caught 253 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: up in it at first. Well, I had a kid 254 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: who lived across the tracks from me who had a 255 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: half pipe, like a good half pipe that his dad 256 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: built him UM, and that was part of that rise 257 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen three. I think that third wave where UM 258 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: because I should say we didn't really mention UM in 259 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: the late seventies, after Alva Skateboards was founded and and 260 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: pau Perelta was founded and all that, UM, skateboarding took 261 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: a hit mainstream wise, and it became associated with punks 262 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: and like just like like just punk kids, bad kid 263 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the bad kids and who literally gave skateboarding 264 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: a bad name. Um. And so it was kind of 265 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: driven underground again. And then in the early eighties that 266 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: experienced their rise and its image kind of changed a 267 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: little bit thanks to the pal Peralta team, the Bones Brigade, 268 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: who were actually like they were all young kids and 269 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: they were skateboarders and all they cared about was skating. 270 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: But they were also like kind of clean cut as 271 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: far as um as far as skateboarders went, and like 272 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: they didn't do drugs, at least they didn't publicly do drugs. 273 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Stay was a good kid, yeah um. And so the 274 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,479 Speaker 1: kids that he sponsored, like Tony Hawk, Mike McGill, Steve Caballero, 275 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Christian Hassoi, all those kids were good kids too, and 276 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: they had a tremendous amount of influence on the the 277 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: skaters who were into them, and so it kind of 278 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: changed skating's image a little bit too. It went from 279 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: like being something that like punk kids were into to 280 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: something all kids were into. Yeah it um. It did 281 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: go into another four year lull towards the end of 282 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: the seventies before it started coming back in the mid 283 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: eighties and BMX had a lot to do with it. 284 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: That became more popular and um, you know some skateboarder 285 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: magazine shut down or change names to a different you 286 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: know title, and it just like you said, it never 287 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: went away to the adherents of like like the true 288 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: underground skateboarders, right, it's always there's always somebody who's been 289 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: skating at some point ever since the ninety nine. But 290 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: in the mid eighties is when it definitely came back 291 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: to the big time mainstream. Yeah. And I can't tell 292 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: if it's just nostalgia on my part or else if 293 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: that was when it like really exploded, but like that 294 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: was when that was my wheelhouse. Remember the videos man, 295 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: Bones Brigade videos. Yeah, and that was another thing too. 296 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why UM skateboarding was able to 297 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: spread as a sport or recreation or whatever UM was 298 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: in part the access to cheap VHS players because the 299 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: Bones Brigade made videos and people bought them, Like you 300 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: could go to your local skate shop and buy like 301 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: a Bones Brigade VHS tape for like twenty five or 302 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: thirty bucks. You kind of had to if you wanted 303 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: to learn the cool tricks. Right, It's like the only 304 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: place you could see him at the time. Yeah, and 305 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: then they were produced in a way like you'd want 306 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: to watch him again and again, like they think the 307 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: fourth one, the Search for Animal Chin, actually had like 308 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: a plot and everything. Yeah, so you would watch these 309 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: things again and again. These guys became like your heroes. 310 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: And not only were you watching them do their tricks 311 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and and you know, watching their videos, but like you 312 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: also wore their t shirts, like you got their deck 313 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: and it said a lot Like I had a Mike 314 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: McGill deck. I really was into Mike McGill. I had 315 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: a Lance Mountain deck. Was really into Lance Mountain, and 316 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: I like Tony Hawk and everything, but I never had 317 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: a Tony Hawk deck like that. You identify with the 318 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: skater based on your personality type of yeah, and your style. Yeah, 319 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: style had a lot to do with it for sure. Uh. 320 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: Then there was another law in the early nineties because 321 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: um of the recession is what everyone seems to blame 322 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: it on. And I don't know, I thought it was weird. 323 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: I don't remember that happening, But now that I think back, 324 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: late high school early college that there wasn't a lot 325 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: of like skate stuff going on in the world, and 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't skating in the time, but I was still 327 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: just young enough to pick up on that fourth wave 328 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: in the early mid nineties. Well, thanks to the X games, 329 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: that's what really brought it back big time. Antony Hawk too, Yeah, 330 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: he kept it going. His video games definitely helped spread 331 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: that fourth waves too. Um, and I guess it's never 332 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: really gone away. He's bigger than ever skating. Yeah. Well, 333 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: another thing I think that helped is that eighties nostalgic craze. Yeah, 334 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: you know that how the eighties inform everything today. Part 335 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: of that was that the I guess re exploring that 336 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: third wave of um skateboarding. So like if you're go 337 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: into a band store, they're all like old Powell decks 338 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: are old like UM Vision Vision street wear decks. Yeah, 339 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: and slimeballs. Yeah. I have and I still have a 340 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: pair of Vans Old Schools the black and white checker No, no, no, 341 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: those were this, I can't remember the name of those. 342 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: The slip ons. Yeah, the Old Schools are the black. 343 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: They have the low top in the high top that 344 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: has the little sort of white wave on the side. 345 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I still wear those shoes. Ye. So uh, 346 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about the skateboard itself. Um, 347 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: right after this message break, So CHUCKO, we're going to 348 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: talk about the skateboard itself. You promised. Yes. Um. There 349 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: are three main parts. You have the deck, you have 350 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: the trucks, and you have the wheels. And like we said, 351 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: the trucks connect the wheels to the deck and they 352 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: service the the axles on the front and the back 353 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: a little T shaped thing. Um. And I remember definitely 354 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: like taking a lot of time to get your trucks 355 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: the way you wanted. Some people like them really loose 356 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: and some people like them a little tighter. If they're looser, 357 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: you can turn more aggressively. Yeah, but you also get 358 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: wobble wheel and you get wheel. But um, yeah, I 359 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: like my little tighter too, Like you want to be 360 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: able to turn, but you also I like the stability 361 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: of a tighter truck. Um. You've also got your wheels, 362 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: which have a set of bearings. Yeah. And the wheels 363 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: haven't changed too much. They're still polyurethane. They've changed in 364 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: size a little bit, but it's the same basic concept 365 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: and again, it still depends on your preference. Like you 366 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: can buy a pre made skateboard that's all put together. 367 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: But as you know, any skate worth its salt buys, 368 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: the deck buys the trucks, buys the wheels that they want, 369 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: puts it all together. You might as well just go 370 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 1: to like a department store and by your skateboard, if 371 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: you're just gonna buy it all together. Yeah, with a 372 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: little outfit that comes with it. One out yeah. Um. 373 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: So the last part arguably the most important part, well 374 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: one of three most important parts, is it the deck? Yeah, 375 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: and the deck has evolved over time. We talked about 376 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: how the tail kicked up in the early seventies and yeah, 377 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: that allowed a lot of like tricks. Um. And the 378 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: if you look at a skateboard from the top or 379 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: the bottom were you're looking at the outline, that's called 380 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: the plan. And then if you look at how the 381 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: tail or the nose is kicked up and then the 382 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: concave to the interior of the skateboard which allows more 383 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: control and stability. Um, that's called the concave. So you 384 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: get the plan in the concave, and those are part 385 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: of the deck. They informed the shape and size of 386 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: the deck and um, then on top of that deck 387 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: you have the grip tape, which I thought that would 388 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: have been a recent innovation. Apparently grip tape was invented 389 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: all the way back in for scooters. They get it 390 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: back then, and a guy named Ferdinand's switz Offer invented it. Nice. Yeah, 391 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: and they changed the name from switz Offer tape to 392 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: grip tape. Um. Yeah. And in the eighties too that 393 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: the thing now is your whole board is covered with 394 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: grip tape. In the mid eighties, I remember, I just 395 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: had like there were graphics on tops said tape at 396 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: the front and the back, and it really didn't make 397 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: any sense, like you the whole thing should be grippy. Yeah, 398 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: but I mean, like again, the Powell graphics are pretty awesome. 399 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Steve Cavalilero had that your dragon or like at least 400 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: you had the bones guy. Uh. The decks are not 401 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: a solid piece of wood. It's actually thin layers of 402 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: veneer and they are laminated and then you spread adhesive 403 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: and you just you know, like with a lot of furniture, 404 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: it is just many layers of thin wood compressed together 405 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: into a mold. And it's a hydraulic press that just 406 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: smashes it all together until you've got your really solid 407 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: piece of wood. Yeah, and it's definitely a lot stronger 408 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: than just the sum of its parts. Yeah, for sure 409 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: from being molded plywood. Um. And then you cut that 410 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: plan out, uh. And then after that you spray it 411 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: with some sealing because you don't want to accidentally alli 412 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: into a puddle or a fountain or something like that 413 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: and have your boardwarp or purposefully allie into a fountain. 414 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: And then the graphics are put on, and then the 415 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: grip tape. I get a sense that graphics aren't like 416 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: super cool anymore? Am I wrong? That it's sort of 417 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: like I think it's a matter of preference. It definitely 418 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: isn't like in the mid eighties it was like they 419 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: were so obnoxious. Oh yeah, remember the Gator one. It 420 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: was like, um, kind of like, uh, I guess a 421 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: vertigo thing, but it was made out of different spikes. 422 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: You would recognize it immediately. Yeah. I definitely had the 423 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: stickers on my car and like it was a thing. 424 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: We had a shop in a Stone mountain called surfs 425 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: up in Stone Mountains, their Stone Mountain that was obviously 426 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: open for like, you know, four and a half years, 427 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: and they had like skate gear in surper gear and 428 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: for all of us, like you know, in in inland 429 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: living people. Yeah, it was like you used to have 430 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: to initially at the early wave in the early eighties, 431 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: like you had to go to like a ski shop. 432 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: Skiing was already established, and then like they'd open up 433 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: a little section for skateboards and then eventually got a 434 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: little bigger and then all of a sudden there were 435 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: actual skate shops. All right. So that is the actual 436 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: uh skateboard in all its three parts. Um, and I 437 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: guess we need to talk about how to ride this thing, um, yeah, 438 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: because the fourth part is you. That's right. Although it 439 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: looks cool just hanging on your wall. If you want 440 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: to impress the ladies, sure, like check out my skateboard. Yeah, 441 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: that was all into that. Um. But it is like surfing, 442 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: And the reason they compare it to surfing is that 443 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of it's like a smaller version. You have 444 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: the side stands, just like on the surfboard. And if 445 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: you heard our surfing podcast, you heard us talk about 446 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: regular foot and Goofy foot is their mongo foot on 447 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: surfing tea. No, because you're not pushing off of it. Um, 448 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: regular foot is your left foot forward, and uh, you're 449 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: using your right foot to push goofy foot is the 450 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: opposite of that, your right foot forwards. You're pushing with 451 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: your left just does not feel right. No, And I 452 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: was a mango foot and I never knew it until 453 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: I looked this up. Um, that is when your left 454 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: foot is forward. I'm sorry, your your right foot is 455 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: on the board, but you're using your left foot to push, 456 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: and your foot is at the rear not the front. Yeah, 457 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: and I just that just feels supernatural to me. But um, 458 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: not supernatural, but very natural. But um, apparently mango foot 459 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: is is I think you're sort of frowned upon as 460 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: a person, but by real skaters if your mom like 461 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: lay off, I've watched you. You can't even kick flip, 462 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: so you pay attention to how you stand. That's what 463 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: you say to people if they give you guff about 464 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: being mango foot. Well, the problem with mango foot is 465 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: you have to shift your feet a little bit once 466 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: both are back on the board. And uh, I guess 467 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: you can't like bust a move immediately with a trick, uh, 468 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: which matters if you're like competing for half a million dollars, 469 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: but not if you're like on your way down to 470 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: the seven eleven. Yeah, if you've never skated before and 471 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: you want to try it, um, I would advise to 472 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: not start with mango foot at all if you don't 473 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: know any better, because you know you won't be made 474 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: fun of. You know, maybe is that what kept you back? 475 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: Maybe you'd be like, right now, that's what it was. 476 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: But I've never seen this before. It makes sense if 477 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: they if you don't know which foot you're prominent with, 478 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: although I would say if you're right footage, you're probably 479 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a regular foot, and if you're goofy foot footed, 480 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: you might be goofy foot. I think it has to 481 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: do with handedness. So like, if you're right handed, your 482 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: left foot is gonna be ford, You're gonna push with 483 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: your right foot. If you're left handed, you're gonna be 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: goofy foot. Where your right foots forward you push with 485 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: your left foot. I think you push with your foot 486 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: in the rear of the dominant hand side or foot 487 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: side right, Yeah, but I think your dominant hand is 488 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: typically your dominant foot as well. Yeah, it seems right. 489 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: And then if if, if you if somebody came up 490 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: and pushed you, Yeah, that's the test. The foot you 491 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: put back to steady yourself, that the one you want 492 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: to use to push with before you crow hop and 493 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: punch him in the head. Right, what what the h man? Yeah, 494 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: so I've never heard that. That's a little trick you 495 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: can do. And I guess you're not. Maybe surprise somebody, 496 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: because if you think about it too much, like all right, 497 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: push me, you try to put both feet back at 498 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: once and you end up just hopping. Uh. So there 499 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: are a few different quite a few different things you 500 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: can do. Back in the day, it was all about 501 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: like the downhill slalom, which is boring, I mean, super 502 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: speed is not boring. Scary, she said. I I suffered 503 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: a pretty decent head injury once. Really. Yeah, I got 504 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: the wobble wheel going downhill and I was like, I 505 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: got a bail out, and right before I went to 506 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: go jump on the grass, the board went and I 507 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: went forward and landed on my head and skidded on 508 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: my head entirely. Tell it at all right, No, yes, 509 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: it's like right, and uh yeah it was it was something. Yeah, 510 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: I remember I have not been the same since. Its 511 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: neighborhoods have one hill you know that you don't dare 512 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: go down. And my best friend his name was Chuck 513 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: actually at the time, and then in high school, he 514 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: had a hill like that and I remember standing at 515 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: the top of it and thinking there's no way I 516 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: should be doing this, and getting on the skateboard and 517 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: trying to go down, and like you said, bailing out 518 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: into the grass was always Uh, if you're in the neighborhood, 519 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: a nice way to go about things. Is that what 520 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: you did? Uh? I think I went all the way 521 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: down actually, but yeah, it's a little scary, you know, 522 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: no way I do that now. I remember a car 523 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: was driving past and stopped and went, oh my god, 524 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: are you okay? I was like, wow, is that bad? Huh? 525 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: And they finished their beer and drove on. So you 526 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: also have freestyle, which is um doing tricks and things 527 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: on a flat surface. Um, And we're gonna get into 528 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: the tricks a little bit in a minute, which if 529 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: you are like, what's free style, it sounds stupid. Look 530 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: up Rodney Mullen or pare Wellinder on YouTube. Check out 531 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: some of their especially their eighties stuff. The early mid eighties, 532 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: they were doing some pretty cool stuff. And some of 533 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: it is like that stuff that you were saying the 534 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: California dudes doing like handstands on making skateboard or just 535 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: the three sixties, like standing in one place with a 536 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: nose in the air. But then they would take their 537 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: hands and like flip their board three sixty degrees eight 538 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: times and land on it. They're pretty good, pretty great stuff, 539 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and its for sure, it's definitely like choreography and a skateboard. Well, 540 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: I have the feeling you're about to say vert skating. 541 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't, but I will. Are you ready? They didn't 542 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: give rise to vert skating SKA well, vert skating, Yeah, 543 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: it kind of that came out of those Dogtown guys 544 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: in the swing pools. Yeah, because a pool is considered 545 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: vert skating. Vert is short for vertical, right, because you're 546 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: skating on vertical services like a pool or a bowl 547 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: or a half pipe or a quarter pipe or whatever. 548 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Or if you're like me, to milk crates in a 549 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: piece of plywood, did you do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 550 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Josh pipe it was not that stable. Uh, it's a 551 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: vertical is when people started leaving and catching air leaving 552 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: the side of whatever surface they were on, which was 553 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: really exciting at the time. Yeah, I can't imagine having 554 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: been there, and it's only gone open up since then, 555 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: you know. Uh. And then you got street skating, which, 556 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: um is if you've seen h ladies and dudes on 557 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: the street like jumping up the air onto a park 558 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: bench and grinding that park bench or a railing, or 559 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: smashing themselves trying to grind a railing, that is uh 560 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: street skating. Or if you've ever played the Tony Hawk 561 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: video game. Did you ever play that? Yeah, the first one. Yeah, 562 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: if you play that enough, people who played that enough? 563 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm talking about you start walking around in life 564 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: and everything you see. Oh man, I could grind that 565 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: so hard if I could really skate. Yeah, not in 566 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: real life, um, but yeah, so so street skating kind of. 567 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I guess you could say it combines freestyle with obstacles, 568 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: using obstacles in the um built environment. That's street skating. Yeah, 569 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: and that's the stuff that usually you'll see like frowned 570 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: upon by businesses and people thinking like these hooliguns are 571 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: out there right, which skateboarding is not a crime man, Nope, 572 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: Although if you use the skate go to jail. But 573 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: to combat all that crime stuff, a lot of cities 574 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: built skate parks in the seventies. And what they didn't 575 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: realize is that, um, when those kids fell and cracked 576 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: their heads, their parents were gonna sue. And so all 577 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the insurance premiums four skate parks went 578 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: through the roof and all the cities shut them down 579 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: and they went away for a very long time. And 580 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: then I guess there was some changes in liability laws 581 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: that allowed skate parks to come back. And so now 582 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: skate parks are back, but they're very frequently put up 583 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: by cities. They're like, we'll build a skate park, and 584 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: they don't ask the skaters how to build a skate park. 585 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: So they build like a terrible skatepark and the skaters 586 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: don't use it, and the cities are like, use skate 587 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: punk kids use the skatepark, and they're like, your skate 588 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: park sucks, and they're like, no, it doesn't, and yes 589 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: it does in the skateaway um, or they do it 590 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: well and it's too crowded. Well, if there's one thing 591 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: I know is that for every skate park in any 592 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: city there will be a group of skaters saying this 593 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: place sucks. I remember when we shot at a skate park. 594 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: Remember these local kids and it was a new skate park. 595 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: One of them, that one kid was pretty good. Yeah 596 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: he's all right, but U I s him. I was 597 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: like this this is great, right, this is new and 598 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: it's indicator and like the sucks. Yeah. Well then that 599 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: one kid lied. He said he lived from like a 600 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: seedier part of Atlanta. Hit us up for bus fair 601 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: and somebody. Yeah, one of the crew saw him, like 602 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: go into his house a block away and it's a 603 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: very nice neighborhood Decatur and hide his skateboard in his backyard. Um, 604 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: if you and they can be different, they can be 605 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: like uh smaller half pipes and ramps and rails and 606 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: things and obstacles. To my recommendation if you ever visit 607 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: l A is to go to Venice Beach to their 608 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: newish skate park there, and it is like the Cument Bowl. 609 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: It's like a huge series of connected swimming pools. And 610 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: this is where you'll see some like you'll see the 611 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: old school guys that aren't leaving the bowl that are 612 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: just like carving it up. Is like sweet as pudding. 613 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: And uh, then you've got guys that really know what 614 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: they're doing, like catching air and doing you know, three sixties. 615 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: And and there's a bulldog that rides a skateboard there too, 616 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: I've heard of that. You should see him. It's quite amazing. 617 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm for sure it is like you can't catch air 618 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, but just the fact that a dog is 619 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: using a skateboard is pretty awesome. So should we talk 620 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: about some tricks. Let's well, almost every trick on earth 621 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: is based on the Ali the trick named after Alan 622 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: Alie gelfand he invented it in the early nineteen seventies, 623 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: mid nineteen seventies, and that is basically when you jump 624 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: up in the air. And if you've seen skateboarders do it, 625 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: you might wonder, how on earth do they jump up 626 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: in the air and have that skateboard seemingly attached to 627 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: their feet. I never was very good at it, I 628 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: really no, I could all be pretty good. I was 629 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: more of a sidewalk surfer than like a trick aerial guy. 630 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: You know. Well, I wasn't a trick aerial guy either, 631 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: but I could Allie, you know, well, explain the Alie 632 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: oh well, okay. So the ALIE is let's say you're 633 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: on your board and you're on a flat surface. You 634 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: kick your the tail of the skateboard down really hard 635 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: against the ground and uh, what this does is this 636 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: um exerted force allows you to overcome the force of gravity. 637 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: And since you're jumped ing at the same time you 638 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: jump into the air, um, you're taking off your own 639 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: downward pressure on the board. So the front of the board, 640 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: the nose, goes up high in the air and the 641 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 1: fact that you've slapped the tail against the ground means 642 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: the tail comes up into the air until it's even 643 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: with the nose and the boards flat in the air, 644 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: and it looks like it's attached to your feet if 645 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: you do it right, and all of a sudden you 646 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: and the board are four feet into the air and 647 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: then you come back down and you landed. That's an ALI. 648 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned four feet The world record Danny 649 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: Wainwright of h I think he's from England, Uh, recorded 650 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: at forty four and a half inch ALI. Well, it's 651 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: pretty amazing, yeah, but was that like standing still? No, 652 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, you know, they just set up 653 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: something to jump over. You keep adding layers until you 654 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: know you can't jump any higher, and then you've got like, 655 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, ten feet to get going, and then just 656 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: pop up and it looks like it's attached to his feet. 657 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: And the allie is so integral this so many other um, 658 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: so many other tricks that it's it's almost not a 659 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: trick any longer in and of itself. It's like the 660 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: basic mechanic of whatever other trick that follows. But like 661 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: you pretty much can't do anything without ali ing. And 662 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: that's how those those guys originally caught air convert skating 663 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: was to ali off of the coping the top and 664 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: then you would catch some serious air because you already 665 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: had that extra momentum behind you as well. All Right, 666 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about a few of the terms here 667 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: in a minute that if you watch the X Games 668 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: and you're not familiar and you hear these words, we're 669 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: going to clear it up for you right after this message. Okay, 670 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: we're back, Chuck. We're gonna talk about the names of tricks, 671 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: different types of tricks. All right. So, if you've ever 672 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: watched the X Games and you hear the uh sort 673 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: of annoying announcers admittedly talk using all these words you've 674 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: never heard. We're gonna explain what some of these words 675 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: mean just to help you follow along a little bit. 676 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: That's right. Um, you might hear speak out front side 677 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: there or whatever. Front side is when you're facing the 678 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: obstacle and performing a trick as opposed to backside, when 679 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: you're back is to the obstacle. Yeah, Like you're basically 680 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: going backwards on the skateboard. That's right. Yeah. Um. One 681 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: eight is pretty basic trick. But it's um, well, it's 682 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: where you ali and you and the board turn eight 683 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: degrees to face in the opposite direction. Yeah, Like you 684 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: go up the ramp and then you turn the mid 685 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: air and you come right back down. You can also 686 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: do it on a flat surface, or you could one 687 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: eighty onto like a park bench or something and trained 688 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: it whatever. Um, but the one eighty also kind of 689 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: forms a basis for a lot of other tricks, especially 690 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: vert tricks like three sixties and five forties all the 691 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: way up to ten eighties, and you can grab the 692 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: side of your board and just do all sorts of 693 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: cool stuff. Tony Hawk famously completed the first nine hundred 694 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: degree turn and for many years they thought that was 695 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: it until a twelve year old named Tom Shar in 696 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve pulled off the first ten eighty and uh, 697 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: they filmed that it wasn't in competition. The first one 698 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: in competition was a guy named Mitch Brusco. He did 699 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: at the X Games. And that is three full rotations 700 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: in the air. Uh. And obviously you have to land 701 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: successfully for it to count and to live and live. 702 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: And uh, it's amazing, man, three full rotations in the air. 703 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: These dudes are getting up super super high. Now. Uh, 704 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: have you ever heard the word fakey? I have? Fakey 705 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: is um basically where you remain in your regular stance, 706 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: but you're going backwards, so you're doing like, um, you're 707 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: going into a backside trick. That's right. Uh. Pop shove 708 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: it is when you do an ali with the one eight, 709 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: but your body isn't moving. You're just uh popping up 710 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: in the air and flipping the skateboard around underneath you 711 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: and then landing on it. And then we talked about grinding. Um, 712 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways you can grind. A true 713 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: grind is when you're on the actual axles, so you've 714 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: got to be going forward, or you can go sideways 715 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 1: and grind on your board and it's called a board 716 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 1: slide or a rail slide. And then the kick flip, 717 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: of course, is the one that you see people busting 718 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: butt on which I've pulled off once. That's right, the 719 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: famous Josh kick flip. And then, of course, Chuck, there's 720 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: the manual, which is another way to say a wheelie. 721 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: I was good at those front side manual backside manual 722 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: I could do, like I was not good. I think 723 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: that's becoming clear. Like I thought it was cool if 724 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: I could do a little wheelie and do a little 725 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: one a D turn on the ground. Yeah, no, I'm 726 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: with you, man, I understand I wasn't very good either, 727 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: But Chuck, I had years of enjoyment. Twice third Wave 728 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: and fourth Wave loved skateboarding, love it like I just 729 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: love skateboarding. I think everybody should go out on skateboard 730 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: all the time. She's never gonna be one of those 731 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: old men that's like, quit grinding my rail. Well, yeah, 732 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean if I had a nice rail out trying, 733 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: I'd be like, hit the hell off of my rail, 734 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: but I I would Still, it's not like a hate 735 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: skateboarding in general, but you would chip in and help 736 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: build a half pipe in your neighborhood, maybe away from 737 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: my really nice rail. Right, that's a good idea if 738 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: you do want to try skateboarding. Obviously these days, with 739 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: the safety consciousness of people, you should get a helmet 740 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: and some kneepads and elbow pads and if you're smart, 741 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: maybe some risk guards, although that might not be cool. 742 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: Well no, actually, like there's a that's another reason skate 743 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: parks off and go and use is because there's local 744 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: ordinances that say you have to wear a helmet and pads, 745 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: and of course skaters are like that sucks. Yeah, but 746 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: the risk guards. That's a common injury because you'll you'll 747 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: often go to brace yourself with your arms when you fall, 748 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: and they say to try and follow in your fleshy 749 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: parts of your body, but you're really kind of at 750 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: the whim of where gravity takes you. At think at 751 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: that point, well, you know, that was another reason I 752 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: think I wasn't ever that good, just because back when 753 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: I was a kid, they were all fleshy parts. It's 754 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: hard to get air. We should have been safe. It was, uh, 755 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: you got anything else? No, man, that's it. Uh, skateboarding. 756 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: If you want to know more about it, you should 757 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 1: type skateboarding into the word search bar at how stuff 758 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: works dot com. That's the first thing you should do. 759 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: You should follow that up by watching skate videos and 760 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: going to buy a skateboard and go skating. Yeah, you know, 761 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: I want to get along board now? Oh yeah, yeah, 762 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: that's the old man style. Yeah, just cruising. Get on 763 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: a flat surface and use it a carving the concrete 764 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: way a mode of transportation. Yeah. Are you gonna learn 765 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: to do handstands on it? Uh? Let's see. Since I 766 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: said handstands and then laugh, that means it's time for 767 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: listener mail. I'm gonna call this Josh, what are you hiding? 768 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: And I'm glad to get this email because I knew 769 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't crazy. So let's just get into this, you know. 770 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: Can I say I don't even remember this most recent reference? 771 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's just explain here what's going on. 772 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: This is from Ben Ben says, Hey, guys, I've been 773 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: living like a trog globitic trug bloodt for the past 774 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: six years because I just discovered your amazing podcast a 775 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. As penance I've been listening to UH 776 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: several per day and have since gone to over one hundred. 777 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: So he's binging, he said, just noticed something in UH. 778 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: During the can Cats Scuba dive episode not one of 779 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: our best on August twelve, two eight, Josh goes into 780 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: detail about he was a certified scuba diver and at 781 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: the one time he was in open water, he not 782 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: only got sea sick, but also got a slight case 783 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: of the bens due to surfacing too quickly. Then UH. 784 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: In two thousand thirteen and the Diving Bell episode, Chuck says, 785 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: I thought I remembered many months ago you mentioned something 786 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: about getting the bends, and Josh quickly and confidently retorted, 787 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: I've never had the bends. So I know this is 788 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: almost five years later, but it begs the question, what 789 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: are you trying to hide? Josh? You have answered some 790 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest, long lasting questions in history, but this 791 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: is one of the few times where you simply added 792 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: another mystery into the pile of the enigma and conspiracy 793 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: that is our world. So UH, have you ever had 794 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: the BENSU? So uh in I was skating down the 795 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: hill and I fell in in my head. Uh. Yeah, 796 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: I would call it a mild case of the bens. Okay, 797 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: so you just don't remember denying you had the bends? Okay, 798 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: all right, well there's your answer. Yeah, well I not 799 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: only do I not remember denying having the bends. When 800 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: I denied having the bends, I had forgotten that I'd 801 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: had the bends before. And again, this is a very 802 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: mild case. But it wasn't just seasickness. It was directly 803 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: related to having just bent half an hour under water, 804 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: you know. Alright, So I would call that the case 805 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: of the ben. I think that clears it up. Then 806 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: that is from Ben Helms from Mount Shasta, California. I'm 807 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: sure Ben will be unsatisfied with your explanation of Ben. 808 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: I just forgot. That's pretty much it. Yeah, let's see. 809 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch with Chuck and I, 810 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: you can tweet to us at s Y s K podcast. 811 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: You can join us on Facebook dot com slash stuff. 812 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: You should know. 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