1 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: So I unfortunately have a brand new addiction in my life. 2 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, wait, okay, how hold on? 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: I wanted let's see we name some of the addictions, 4 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: because let's talk about Because you say that you have 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: a new one, I would say, walk it exercise. 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: For you is an addiction. 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 4: It is. 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: Smoking used to be an addiction. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: That was a big one. That was I was also 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: just really good at it. 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so good smoking. You could do it in 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: the shower, you could do it while running. 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 5: How many packs a day did you smoke seriously at 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 5: the height, like. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: At my height, more than one? Between one and two? Yeah, yeah, 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: I was having I mean. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 5: I was a cigar at every Oh my god, because 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 5: I'm doing a pack like twenty twenty. 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would have. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: I would have, but I would have probably thirty to 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: thirty five cigarettes a day. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, that's so good. You're so good 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: at that. 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: I was really good at it. 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Let's see other addictions. Asking people where they live is 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: I would consider maybe an addiction needing to know where 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: everyone's located. 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: It's not an addiction so much as just I mean, 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: I could I could quit that anytime I want it. 30 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: Danielle. 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 5: Okay, sure, reading fantasy books. 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: Oh, reading fantasy books is a good one. Yeah, reading 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: fantasy books is a good one. Showering, showering so healthy? 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 5: Like, I mean, when do you call like, when do 35 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: you call it an addiction? If it's like correct running 36 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: or right now right super healthy? And yeah that's okay. 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: But I do think the definition of an addiction is 38 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: something that without it makes your life like not feel 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: as good or as harder. Like so even the running 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: is healthy for you, you can be addicted to the to 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: like I don't feel well if I don't exert that 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: much energy, like the adrenaline rush whatever it is, like 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: the endorphins. 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Uh, so you could technically be did to that. 45 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 4: But I this one is certainly not healthy. 46 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: Oh this new one? 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: What is it? 48 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 4: And I may need your help to break the cycle. 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: I have become addicted to awful reddit stories being read 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: on YouTube by bad voiceover actors. 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, this is so specific. 52 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are I've got titles for. 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: You too, Okay, like bad bad reddit stories meaning like 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: something kind of catastrophic happens somebody writes a post or 55 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: just a stream. 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 6: In some way extreme lots of cheating okay, asshole thing? Yes, 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 6: like those are a lot of So, for instance, here's 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 6: some titles for you. I heard my wife saying she 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 6: didn't want to hug me anymore, so I ignored her forever. 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: Oh somehow, by the way, that is a twenty two 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: minute story. 62 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: Honestly that I listened to. 63 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: The entire thing wins in that one? She doesn't want 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: to be hugged? Who wins? Really exactly? 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: My parents urged me to forgive my brother for betraying 66 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: me with my ex wife, then demanded I financially support 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: them in his new family. 68 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, twenty four minutes of my life. 69 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: That doesn't sound real. 70 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure none of these are. 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: There's like the Penthouse forums where it's like, oh, really, 72 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: everybody's having sex with four women a day at. 73 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: Their work, Like all stewardesses are exactly exactly when does 74 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: the pilot of time to fly the plane? 75 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: Like this? 76 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: This is what's happening. 77 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: So my fiance's pre wedding contract demanded forty percent of 78 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: my income, so I exposed her at the altar. 79 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 7: Wow. 80 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so you you find these stories, but I'm assuming you. 81 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: Well now they're just on my algorithm. Okay, so that's. 82 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: YouTube channel where we're a voiceover. 83 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: Actor meant but really in. 84 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: Quotes right right, right, Okay, It's like it's just somebody 85 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: doing a dramatic reading correct if they are the poster. 86 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Correct without fixing their stumbles or the mispronunciation of words. 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: And why do you for hearing it over reading it? 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Because, like I put it, like, what I used to 89 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: do was educate myself and put on history podcasts and stuff. 90 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: Now I put on these schlockfests of like. 91 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I got my teacher pregnant and now she wants answers 92 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: like stuff, and I'm like, oh, you got to listen 93 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: to that while I. 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: Walk my dog. 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 5: So your podcast listening has basically become a daytime talk. 96 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Show correct absolutely. 97 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 5: Correct apps like you've just you've just gone to the 98 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 5: bottom of the barrel of like yeah, daytime TV. Yeah, 99 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 5: you gotta get out. You got to pull yourself out 100 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 5: of this tail spend before you Before. 101 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: You do, I have a request, Will you find a 102 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: bad Reddit story that like you like and then will 103 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: you read one for us as a bonus episode? 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: That was the question I was going to ask, is 105 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: since I I don't have children, which means I have 106 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: a ton of time. 107 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I should just. 108 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: My voiceover skills. Yes, that's what I'm to start my 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: own YouTube channel where I read them well. 110 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 5: Because you really want to social media back in your life. 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Exactly, that's what I need more. 112 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't cause any anxiety, that's the beautiful part of it. 113 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 5: You won't obsessing over whether people like the performance or not. 114 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 7: No. 115 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Well, I mean my son got his teacher pregnant. Now 116 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: she's demanding marriage. But the DNA test results shock everyone. 117 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, I need to know that one. But read 118 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: by Ron mister super Phil Friedel. 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 120 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Your step brother needs this money more than you, she 121 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: said with a smirk. Three months later, he came to 122 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: my office to pitch his startup, only to freeze when 123 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: he saw. 124 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: Me sitting behind the desk. 125 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: What I don't even understand that headline? 126 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: You you will? You will when I read it. 127 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So hold on, I want to could you 128 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: do a little bit of a reading for us because 129 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 5: I want to know, like how you would do it? 130 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: Is the because because you like listening to the bad ones, 131 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: So would you do it as a sort of bad 132 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 5: reader or would you commit to it. Shakespeare, you're doing 133 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: an audiobook of like the Greatest Thing Ever Wrecked? 134 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: That's what I would do? 135 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: You correct their stuffs or like would you pronounce the 136 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: words as if they're spelled? 137 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: What would you do? 138 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 4: I would probably do it the way that the author intended. 139 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, but I mean I do. 140 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Listen to one guy who's the worst who also puts 141 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: on whenever a woman is speaking, goes like and that's 142 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: when my wife walked in and said. 143 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: But honey, I'm only walking. 144 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 5: Down and it's like, oh, it kills audiobook. Ability to 145 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 5: do the opposite gender voice is like a major thing, 146 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: like if you overdo it, because like there are some 147 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: female readers who I love, and then they go to 148 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 5: do every man in the in the book and they're. 149 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: Like, hey, we don't throw you don't just talk. Don't 150 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: like that. 151 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 5: And then and then the vice versus exactly what you're 152 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: talking about, where it's like every female voice is like 153 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: all said, You're like, what what are you doing? Like people, 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: we get it, you don't have the right, but. 155 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: Just you can just soften or you know you can, 156 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: you can do it just a hint. 157 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so. 158 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: By the way, though a lot I've been realizing from 159 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: just an educational standpoint, A lot of fiances cheat with 160 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: somebody's brother. 161 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: This is this is a big thing apparently. 162 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: People don't you know, you don't know that many people. 163 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, especially nowadays, it's like you have 164 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 5: a thousand friends online, but who do you actually like 165 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: see on a daily especially during COVID It's gonna be 166 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: family or slightly extended family. 167 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, the writer's already justifying it. 168 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: So you have a nanny that you sleep with. That's 169 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: not a thing. That's just part of life. One time 170 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: that okay, Shiloh, I don't you know. 171 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: It's just fine. 172 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: I don't blame the two of them. Now I pay 173 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: for them to live in there. 174 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's. 175 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: It's not a big deal. 176 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: It's it's part of the family. 177 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: It's how you keep The other great thing about it 178 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: is they also win AI because AI obviously does a 179 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of the voices, and so people always start with like, hi, 180 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm Doug twenty four male and my wife Sarah twenty four. 181 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: But right, but the AI doesn't interpret. 182 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: It so much like Penthouse forms because there's always. 183 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Been thirty three forty they do right. 184 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: So it always goes like I'm Doug twenty seven meters 185 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: and my wife Carol thirty five feet she and I, 186 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: and so it doesn't get the it is. 187 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Because it's reading text not knowing. 188 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: Yes, all right, let's do it this way. Let's actually 189 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: produce one of these things. 190 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 6: I watch music that will do anything, but you and 191 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 6: I can do it. 192 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 5: But you and I could do extra voices if they. 193 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: Read it will say girl, great woman, you just pick 194 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: a good story. 195 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 7: Okay, oh well, so you pick up. 196 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: You pick one, and then we will do it and 197 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: will be popular. 198 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: The record saying we should start smoking too does not 199 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: help my addiction. 200 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: Comes. 201 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: How can we make money off of it? How can 202 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: we help you start a social media channel that gets 203 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: you income. 204 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: That's what I want to do. 205 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I want to be the guy who everybody comes to like, 206 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: can you please read my am I the asshole story? 207 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: And I get to sit in this booth all day 208 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: and just really love that. 209 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 5: I think it's just the voice of all the like 210 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: the Civil War documentary and like. 211 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: Oh that was that. 212 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: The guy, the one guy who does. 213 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 7: Ken Burn. 214 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: I think it was David McCullough, who actually he's. 215 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 5: A historian himself right, yes. 216 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: And has that amazing voice. 217 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: So I want to be that for kind of the 218 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: same as a Ken Burns documentary. 219 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: For am I the asshole in love it? 220 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: I love it, Let's do it. I really am very 221 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: excited about this. It's like we become a rehab that 222 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: sells drugs. Yes, that's what writers about it. 223 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: It's a brilliant thing. 224 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: It's like the time I walked out of the weed 225 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: store to see the girl Scout table set up with 226 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: the cookies right in front of my weed store. It 227 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: was like, here's a thousand dollars. Yeah, like that's the 228 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: most brilliant thing in the world. 229 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: Brilliant Girl Scout. 230 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: It is so I okay, great, well, thanks for help 231 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: with my addiction. 232 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for bringing us a great new idea. I'm really 233 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: excited about it. 234 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: I'm excited to do so. 235 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: We got to come up what should we call it, 236 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: Let's Reddit. 237 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Pod meets Reddit's Good or something as to Reddit meets 238 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: world readit, narrate pod narrates. 239 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: We'll work on these, we'll workshop these, we'll come up 240 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: with something. 241 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: Am I the PMW. We'll figure something. We'll figure something out. Okay, Well, 242 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: thanks for the help. 243 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome. Thanks for bringing this to us, Thanks 244 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: for giving us an addiction. 245 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: Will you got it? 246 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: Let's go get a smokes. 247 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Welcome to Pod meets World. 248 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Fischl, I'm rather strong, and I'm will Fredell 249 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: forty eight meters. 250 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: There hasn't been a week that's passed for over thirty 251 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: years now that someone hasn't uttered the letters TGI F 252 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: at me. As much as the names Topanga, Eric and 253 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: Sean or the show title Boy Meets World have defined 254 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: our careers, so has that act. A programming block doubling 255 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: as a marketing campaign that aired on ABC starting in 256 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: the late eighties and straight through the nineties. Featuring mostly sitcoms, 257 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: this group of shows was geared to family viewing programs 258 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: that could be enjoyed by both kids and parents alike. 259 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: Originally debuting in nineteen eighty nine, ABC committed to funny 260 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Friday Nights and evening universally considered comatose for ratings but 261 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: ripe for experimentation, and boy did it pay off. TGIF 262 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: would not only become the network tent pole, but it 263 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: would grow into a cultural juggernaut, changing the medium of 264 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: television and. 265 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: Viewing habits forever. 266 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: Over a ten year period, the block included hits like 267 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: Full House, Family Matters, Perfect Strangers, and Boy Meets World, 268 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: with some more fly by Night tenants too, like Where 269 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: I Live, Sledgehammer, Aliens in the Family, and Clueless. 270 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: But just as. 271 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: Important as these TV shows was the marketing behind the concept. 272 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: It included creative commercials, eye catching graphics, hundreds of bumpers 273 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: with tgi F talent in between episodes, and even a 274 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: disastrous U two concert in an attempt to cross promote 275 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: these shows. Yeah I was there for that way. Yeah 276 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: I was supposed to interview Bono, of course, Yes I was. 277 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 278 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 7: To me. 279 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 5: They invited us a toy story too. 280 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't think you guys know. I may not have 281 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: been doing movies in the summer, but guess who. 282 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: Got asked to host all the TGIF bumpers. 283 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: That was me. 284 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: These shows did all have humor in common, but it 285 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: was the visionary campaign that tied it all together. And 286 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: so how are ideas like this born? How did Friday 287 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: go from a virtual TV graveyard to one of the 288 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: most profitable nights in ABC history. Well, this week we 289 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: are speaking to the man who did it, the writer 290 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: and producer from the promotions department whose little idea of 291 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: TGIF became a phenomenon and started his prolific career of 292 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: molding TV strategy for decades. He was the man behind 293 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: the TGIF concept, the visuals, the celebrity segments, the on 294 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: location shoots. This was his vision and we couldn't be 295 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 3: more excited to talk to. 296 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: Him about it today. 297 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: So this week's guest on Podmeats World, welcome the man 298 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: we should actually be thanking for Friday. 299 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 2: It's Jim janisek. 300 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: Hi. 301 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: How are you are you? 302 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, look how old you guys are? Young, 303 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 7: old guy. 304 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: We finally have an honest guest. This is a bad time. 305 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 7: That's not true. I've seen I've heard many great things 306 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 7: about all your guests that you got. 307 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: Well, we could not be more excited to talk to 308 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: you today. We have long hoped to speak to a 309 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: network executive from the late nineties, but never in our 310 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: wildest dreams did we ever think we'd get the chance 311 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: to chat with the architect of TGIF. 312 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 7: Well, thank you. 313 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: I want to first get into how did you start 314 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: at ABC? 315 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 7: Good question, It's six degrees of separation. Same kind of 316 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 7: thing I always tell people that ask that kind of question. 317 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 7: Is when I got to LA. I had worked in 318 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 7: on air advertising and marketing in local television in Denver, 319 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 7: That's where I was raised and had always wanted to 320 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 7: live in LA And immediately, as soon as I could, 321 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 7: you know, packed up the car and got out here 322 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 7: and started making phone calls. And eventually, you know, I 323 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 7: got in front of a gentleman by the name of 324 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 7: Stu Brower who was running on at the time, who's 325 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 7: a great guy, and he gave me a chance, and 326 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 7: I came on board as one of I think there 327 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 7: were probably about twelve of us producers at ABC at 328 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 7: the time, and I was pretty young. I was I 329 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 7: think twenty three, twenty four. And it was a blast. 330 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 7: And then, you know, went to work just like everybody else, 331 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 7: you know, spending a lot of time on stage in 332 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 7: edit base. 333 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: So you were one of twelve producers, were you guys 334 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: in a particular department. 335 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 7: Or just we were? So we were in on air. 336 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 7: So our job was to promote new shows and make 337 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: them look appetizing for the people. 338 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So and this is the this is the eighties. 339 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 7: A lot of them were not as easy to promote 340 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 7: as Yours was good, Yours was lovely? 341 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: Was this the eighties? 342 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 7: This was yeah, So this would have been about eighty four, 343 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 7: so eighty four, eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight, 344 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 7: and TDIF came about around eighty eight eighty eighty seven. 345 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 7: I was given the opportunity. So Friday Night used to 346 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 7: be what was considered the death slot. And I was 347 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 7: this guy, you know, young young producer. They and I 348 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 7: was promoting moonlighting and things like that, and it was 349 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 7: a summer and was given the opportunity to basically come 350 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 7: up with something that would help promote Friday Night and 351 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 7: make it appealing. And it was always a mish mash 352 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 7: of stuff. They would just kind of put shows there 353 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 7: that were on their last legs because the network always 354 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 7: believed that most people were out going on dates things 355 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 7: like that. That was kind of the attitude at the time. 356 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 7: And with me, I was raised basically that we got 357 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 7: together on Fridays and Sundays and you know, as a 358 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 7: family and often with our cousins, would have dinner and 359 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 7: then would you know, sit and watch TV. Specifically on 360 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 7: Sunday nights. We would always sit and watch mutual, Omaha's 361 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 7: Wild Kingdom, then Disney Sunday Movie, and it was a 362 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 7: whole experience that we did together. And so it was 363 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 7: summer of eighty seven or eighty eight, I think it 364 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 7: was somewhere in that area, and just so happened that 365 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 7: there were new bosses in charge, so we had I 366 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 7: guess people weren't really paying attention much to us, and 367 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 7: so in summer most of us producers were, you know, 368 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 7: either vacation because again we were between seasons. We weren't 369 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 7: starting to push for fall yet. Okay, so it was 370 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 7: a thing where you know, these they gave me these 371 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 7: comedies and said, okay, so we have full house, mister Velvet, 372 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 7: are perfect strangers and just the ten of us and 373 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 7: you know, go And so I basically took a bunch 374 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 7: of stuff and made up stories and just started doing 375 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 7: crazy things. And so these were cut promos, but we 376 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 7: would get some big names doing the voiceovers for us, 377 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 7: and we I made up stories like you know, Bob Costello, Burbank, 378 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 7: you know, started watching TGIF and suddenly shaved thirty two 379 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 7: strokes off as golf game. You know, funny things like that, 380 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 7: And so we would and We just did this whole 381 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 7: campaign around these made up stories, using stock footage and 382 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 7: things like that to try to get attention, and it 383 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 7: started to work. We started to get a little bit 384 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 7: of attention. Is specifically, my bosses called me and said, 385 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 7: I don't know what kind of drugs you're on, but 386 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 7: keep going, keep a yeah, as the market. Mark Zachern 387 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 7: who was my boss, and he was right under Bob 388 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 7: Iger and so it that's how it started. And then 389 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 7: Stu Brower and I started really looking at it as 390 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 7: Fall came along and said how do we extend that? 391 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 7: And being the young kind of ambitious producer I wanted 392 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 7: to be and you know, growing again, I was twenty 393 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 7: three and my entire goal in life was to be 394 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 7: on set as much as possible, So I proposed to them. 395 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 7: I said, what if we went to the showrunners And 396 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 7: at the time it was millibo At you know, and 397 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 7: Tom Miller were the majority of the shows. And then 398 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 7: we went to them and said, hey, what if we 399 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 7: did these little hosted segments and that you know, they 400 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 7: agreed to try it and see if they could. You know, 401 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 7: what it would be like, and we would come in 402 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 7: after the show, as you know, we'd show up as 403 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 7: you were wrapping and you were tired and ready to 404 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 7: go home, and you and you guys would graciously sit 405 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 7: with us and do something on the couch. And the 406 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 7: whole idea was, you know, everyone thought, oh, the couch, 407 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 7: that seems so weird, wanted to do, you know, and 408 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: our whole idea. The idea was to create an arc 409 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 7: across the whole night with the different shows, so that 410 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 7: no matter what show you were watching, you felt like 411 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 7: you were watching with the other shows, that when they 412 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 7: were done with their show, they were sitting down and 413 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 7: with you at home watching you know, watching the shows. 414 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 7: And so yeah, it was just again it was trying 415 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 7: to recreate that thing that I did with my childhood. 416 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 7: And it started to take and you know, one thing 417 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 7: led to another. We got a little bit in trouble 418 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 7: with the FCC because they didn't like the fact that 419 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 7: we were doing that. We were only allowed to do 420 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 7: two and a half minutes I believe it was somewhere 421 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 7: like two and a half minutes of promo before each 422 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 7: or in each programming block, and they classified this as promo. 423 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 7: And so we were like, how do we get how 424 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 7: do we sneak around that? And we went back and 425 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 7: we said, okay, rather than being promotion, we had to 426 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: make this more entertaining. We had to crack a few jokes. 427 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 7: We had to do that, and then they would qualify 428 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 7: this as more more part of the entertainment. 429 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 5: Sounds like original programming, right. 430 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 7: So we went back exactly and we went back and 431 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 7: we said, okay, how about this, and they said, well, 432 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 7: you still can't use a pod and that's why we 433 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 7: that was a commercial pod at the time. So that's 434 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 7: when we went back to the shows and Miller Boyette 435 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 7: was the first to do it, and we said, will 436 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 7: you cut twenty to thirty seconds out of your credits 437 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 7: each each week and make this happen for us? And 438 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 7: they agreed and that was the start. And then you know, 439 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 7: it's a long story. I don't mean to go on 440 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 7: and on and okay, okay, So ultimately it built from there. 441 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 7: We got it started to get a little rocky again 442 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 7: because it took a while for this to catch on. 443 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 7: It took a good year before it really you know, 444 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 7: started to catch and. 445 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: The we started to get away that you know that 446 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 5: it's catching on is because of the ratings. Like ultimately 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 5: you're looking at the numbers things show or how do 448 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 5: you it has like a cultural impact? 449 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 7: That's a great question. And the ratings and the I 450 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 7: would call it the inflection point happened about a year later. 451 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 7: I don't know if you're familiar, but they would do 452 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 7: Q ratings, so they will hold up a picture, you know, 453 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 7: do you recognize Danielle? You know who is she? And 454 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 7: rather and I don't know if it was with you. 455 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 7: I don't recall who they were doing this test with, 456 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 7: but they said something to the effect of people would go, oh, yeah, 457 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 7: that's the people from tgif right and research research department 458 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 7: went crazy and said, we need to cancel this because 459 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 7: they've lost the names of the shows. They don't know 460 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: the names of the shows. And this is where it 461 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 7: comes back to I oh, all credit to Bob Iger. 462 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 7: He stood in the way and he was like, no, no, no, no, 463 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 7: we have a brand. He says, this is something that 464 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 7: we're sticking with. And that's when they started really dumping 465 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 7: money into it and saying, Okay, now we're going to 466 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 7: push and we created you know, original animation and locked 467 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 7: in on the name and and so that's kind of 468 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 7: the just of how it all came to be. 469 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 470 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: I mean that's so smard because if you're Bob Iger 471 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: and you're going, oh, you mean, all the power. 472 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: Isn't with these individual shows. The power is in something. 473 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: Editor show we want in there, and people will still go, oh, 474 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: it's the new part of tgis so very. 475 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 7: Very yes, you are exactly right. And it was a 476 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 7: neat thing too. For sales. They used to go to 477 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 7: ad sales caught onto this and basically said, okay, now 478 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 7: we can do tent poling, which is a strategy that's 479 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 7: done where they'll take two strong shows like here's Boy 480 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 7: Meets World and here's Full House, and we'll put something 481 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 7: in between it, or we'll put something just after it 482 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 7: and lead it in and test our new pilots. And 483 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 7: in advertising, rather than saying you just bought you know, hey, 484 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: Kellogg's just bought Boy Meets World, Kellogg's wasn't offered Boy 485 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 7: Meets World. They were offered TGIF and so the price 486 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 7: was the same across the whole arc. So wasn't the 487 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 7: case where you got you know, so they were basically 488 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 7: leveraging getting a lot more in the revenues to happen. 489 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: So and to your point, then if people are staying in. 490 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: But if people are staying to watch the whole block 491 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: partially because there's BTS stuff they're watching the casts do 492 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: in between the shows, they're also seeing all those commercials 493 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 3: in between. 494 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, you are right on target. It's it really 495 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 7: became kind of just a neat little FuMO event we 496 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 7: would call it. So it was, you know, fear missing 497 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 7: app and it was one of those things that the 498 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 7: kids would drive mostly. That's why we'd use you know, 499 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 7: we'd often use the younger cast members to do the 500 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 7: promotions and it worked. It seemed to just catch on 501 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 7: and keep going. So it went on for I think 502 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 7: ten years. 503 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: So now, what was what was the first I mean, 504 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: I know the entire night took off, but what was 505 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: the first hit show from TJF. 506 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: Was it Perfect Strangers? 507 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 7: If you ask me, yes, So full House took a 508 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: little longer, and Full House didn't always want to be 509 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 7: on Friday night. They were really pushing for Tuesday night 510 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 7: and it, you know, I don't know necessarily why, but 511 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 7: ultimately Full House became kind of that early anchor because 512 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 7: it's skewed to the youngest. Personally, I loved Perfect Strangers 513 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 7: because they were geniuses and just unbelievable. We deliver scripts 514 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 7: to them and they'd be like, oh, that's nice, and 515 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 7: then they come back with these incredible limericks and rhymes 516 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 7: and fun things, and I just I was like, they 517 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 7: were so much fun. You guys too, were so you 518 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 7: guys were always the best to work with. Was never 519 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 7: a no or anything. And I remember, Danielle, when you 520 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 7: and I went to you two, I want. 521 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: To get into that story. 522 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 7: We just. 523 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 5: Always been a fan of you too. Personally. 524 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 525 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 7: I don't know me too. I don't know Sandy Christmas 526 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 7: was behind that or. 527 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: Who was Sandy. 528 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 7: Sandy Christmas remember that, Jesus sweetheart. 529 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's Miss Sandys. 530 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: When ABC just recently, within the last five years or so, 531 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: did a little bring back of t G I f U, 532 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: they asked me to do a commercial. 533 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: They brought me back to do a commercial and Sandy 534 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: and Christmas was there. 535 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, Andy, just a couple of weeks ago. She's a sweetheart. 536 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 7: She's retired now, but just the love of the life. 537 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 7: She was kind of the mama bear of the department 538 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 7: who kept us all straight. We were all young, egotistical, 539 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 7: you know, producers, and she'd be the one coming and going. 540 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 7: You're not doing that, even though she was kind of 541 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 7: assisting us. She was just the greatest of people. So 542 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 7: loved her and she loved connecting people. She was great 543 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 7: with folks. So I remember her and I doing a 544 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 7: special where we we had one day to shoot a 545 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 7: special with Delta Burke and Mark Curry and we had 546 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 7: the back lot of Warner Brothers to our avail and 547 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 7: she and I loaded up a golf cart with cameras 548 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 7: and just were running like crazy all over the place 549 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 7: get things done. And you know, Sandy is the type 550 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 7: that would walk up to anybody, Hey, you you come 551 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 7: over here, you know, can I talk to you? So 552 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 7: it was great. It was lots of fun. 553 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: Where did the name TGIF come from? And I want 554 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: to know if there were other options that you remember 555 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: being pitched around. So it is not thank God it's Friday. 556 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: It is thank goodness, it's funny. That's what TGIF stands for. 557 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: Thank Goodness, It's funny. So where did that come from? 558 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: And what were some other options you guys had? 559 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 7: So we were talking about things like the Friday Fun Club. 560 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 7: There's a whole list somewhere I probably could dig up, 561 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 7: but I remember that one. You know, It's Friday Night, 562 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 7: lots of little shortism, and I don't recall exactly where 563 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 7: it came from. We had that was on our list. 564 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 7: We were concerned about the restaurants at the time coming 565 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 7: at us, you know, and so we weren't really sure, 566 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 7: but I do remember I was standing at five to 567 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 7: five posts or something. We did our first animation, which 568 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 7: kind of was kind of more childlike, with a little 569 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 7: mouse called Friday the Mouse, which was it was. We 570 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 7: were animating that with a guy by the name of 571 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 7: Bob Kurtz who runs a company. I don't know if 572 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 7: he's still around, but Bob Kurtz and friends did the 573 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 7: original commercials for Shell and for It's the Green Dinosaur. 574 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 7: It was a green animated green dinosaur for a gas 575 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 7: and oil company, and the line was, remember some dinosaur 576 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 7: gave his or her all for that tank of gas 577 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 7: and I and he and he'd always this little animated 578 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 7: dinosaur and I love that dinosaur as a kid. So 579 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 7: I was like, I need to find this guy. So 580 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 7: that's we had hired, and I was with him. We 581 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 7: were animating the open and then Stu Brower and Bob 582 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 7: Iger called and said, we've landed on TG if we 583 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 7: want to call TJF. So that's where we got the name, 584 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 7: and we started animating those letters into the open and 585 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 7: went from there. But we were literally standing by in 586 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 7: a post house about to execute on that because time 587 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 7: was taken. So that's where the name came from. It 588 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 7: was and and Bob, I believe, came up with, Thank goodness, 589 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 7: it's funny to avoid any conflict, Yeah, with any any restaurants. 590 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: And wait, so, just to get my television history right, 591 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Just the Ten of Us was a spin off of 592 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Perfect Strangers. 593 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 7: I don't know that's a spun. 594 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: From something because the coach was it was it was 595 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: a character on another Yes he was, he was. I 596 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: can't remember which one it was. That then spun off 597 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: into Just the Ten of Us. 598 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, Rachel, Yeah. 599 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 7: And Just the Ten of Us was Mister Belvedere was 600 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 7: was waning, and Just the Ten of Us was also 601 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 7: kind of on its last season just when we were 602 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 7: were coming in, and then it went to Perfect Strangers. 603 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 7: Full House. You folks came in ninety three, I think 604 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 7: it was something like that, right, yeah, which was great. 605 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: You're you were you hit right at the Prime and 606 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 7: where we were rocking and rolling and you were the 607 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 7: perfect show for it. It just, you know, it just 608 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 7: nailed it because you had all the family values, the 609 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 7: kids that you know, the high school. You were right 610 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 7: on target. So it was a no brainer to have 611 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 7: Boime's World there. 612 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: And so I have a question about the network in general. 613 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 5: Did you have a sense of the network having a 614 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 5: personality or a sort of like ideal viewer, like because ABC, 615 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 5: I mean our corner of ABC was very much family, 616 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: but was there did you guys have like meetings where 617 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 5: you were like who is our ideal consumer? Who's who's watching? 618 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: And like what is AB? How is ABC different than 619 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: NBC or Fox? Did you guys know what that was 620 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 5: and what that meant? 621 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's sort of it's a you know people. Again, 622 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 7: when we were part of Cap Cities, which I think 623 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 7: we had become Disney right around I'm not sure when 624 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 7: Disney came in, but I think early. 625 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: On ninety six, wasn't. 626 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 7: It, Yeah somewhere, but we were part of caps Cities initially, 627 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 7: so and Cap cityse Murphy and Burke were really genuine 628 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 7: people and would allow us to come to Century City 629 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 7: and be parts of these meetings. The entire network was 630 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 7: only eight hundred people, so that was it. We were, 631 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 7: you know, the whole and most of them were in 632 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 7: the field, so like you know, the fourth floor in 633 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 7: Century City was where the power was. And you know, 634 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 7: there were program execs as you know, you've been there. 635 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 7: You guys were, I'm sure in those offices at the time, 636 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 7: and that you know, that was really it. And then 637 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 7: there were the producers in the field like myself and 638 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 7: on air, and the people running operations over in prospect 639 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 7: a lot and it so it was very much a family. 640 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 7: We all knew each other pretty well and you know, 641 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 7: would run across each other in the hallways. There was 642 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 7: always the question of who, you know, we were because 643 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 7: at that time they were kind of thematically broadcasting depending 644 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 7: on what night of the week you were at. So 645 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 7: you know, there was dramas on certain nights. You know, 646 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 7: Moonlighting was more adult. Okay, so that was Tuesday night 647 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 7: and that was where they put you know, Tuesday night 648 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 7: comedies and things that had a little more adult theme 649 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 7: to them. You know, they were I think Jack and 650 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 7: Mike things like that were over there. It was more 651 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 7: of a mystery you know movie or mystery show. It 652 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 7: was interesting because it's a funny story. I got in 653 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 7: trouble once when I got invited to one of those 654 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 7: programming things, which was it wasn't I wouldn't call it 655 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 7: big trouble, but like it. You know, we're around the 656 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 7: table of about thirty of the top exacts there and 657 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 7: one the gentleman John Scias, who was like a huge 658 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 7: he was way up at the top of uh of 659 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 7: the power chain, was talking and said, you know that 660 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 7: we were talking about NBC because that was the big threat. 661 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: You know, NBC was NBC was the hip place, so 662 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 7: talk about that fomo you know, ABC of course was 663 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 7: I won't you know, I want this and I want 664 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 7: to be cool exactly enough of this family, that was 665 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: exactly it. There was always that, and we even knew 666 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 7: the people, you know, Tom you know uh Miller John 667 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 7: Miller over was running NBC's uh uh marketing department. We 668 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 7: all were friends and knew and Vince Mansie and all 669 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 7: those folks. But everyone wanted to be everyone else, and 670 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 7: CBS was always the Tiffany network, and it was always 671 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 7: the you know, the older people, and so it was 672 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 7: that battle for that eighteen to thirty five that everybody 673 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 7: thought they wanted it, and you know, we weren't looked 674 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 7: down upon it all for TJF because it became such 675 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 7: a powerhouse. It kind of became a hands off thing, 676 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 7: which was great. But I was like, you, Danielle, I 677 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 7: was kind of like, this is the American Broadcasting Company, 678 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 7: and it should be you know, it should be family, family, family. 679 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 7: We could really nail this. And I made the comment 680 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 7: in this meeting, I was like, aren't we the American 681 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 7: broadcast You know, they were talking about pasting broadcasting and 682 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 7: you know, all the different dimensions of it, and I said, 683 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 7: shouldn't we That cable wasn't really barely there, you know, 684 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 7: there was MTV and stuff like that. But I made 685 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 7: the comment, I said, so, why aren't we considering maybe 686 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 7: narrow casting a little bit toward a very specific audience 687 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 7: like a lot of these so called cable networks are 688 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 7: starting to do. And John Syas looked at me and 689 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 7: he goes, young man, because this is the American Broadcasting Company, 690 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 7: not the narrow casting fucking. 691 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 4: Go stand in the corner. 692 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 7: I don't. 693 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 8: Away. 694 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 7: I don't think. I don't I don't think I got 695 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 7: invited back to that meeting. 696 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 8: Oh but it was because this was also I mean, 697 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 8: this was the time if if eighteen thirty five, eighteen 698 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 8: to thirty. 699 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: Five is what everybody was was clamoring for, but also 700 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: ninety three ninety four the Fox network comes out of 701 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: nowhere and you've got children on this Simpsons and they're 702 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: going for that kind of It's like they were really 703 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: shooting towards that demographic. So everybody, it really made everybody 704 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of have to hone their identity because it's like, okay, 705 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: now we're young and hips, so you're going to push 706 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: NBC more to the middle. 707 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 4: So then where do you go from there? 708 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 8: Wow? 709 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 4: What a street. 710 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 5: It's a really good question because what for cable networks, 711 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 5: being specific was exactly the way to go, Like you 712 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 5: had to be the channel just for one type of 713 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 5: audience because if you could build that fan base, you 714 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 5: could continue. But yeah, for network MTV simple, it's still 715 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 5: a huge I mean now streamers are asking themselves this 716 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 5: all the time, right because it's like, are you a 717 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 5: Netflix where you just try and be the channel for 718 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 5: everybody or everything? 719 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 7: Yeah? 720 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so interesting, it's such a big question. 721 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it is a fascinating thing, and you know, 722 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 7: to this day is still a battle people have of 723 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 7: trying to find their audience. And I'm kind of a 724 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 7: big believer that you can't please everybody all the time, 725 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 7: and you know, you have to kind of focus on 726 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 7: what you can do. And I'm also a big believer 727 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 7: in stuff I do now that family is that one 728 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 7: place that still has a lot of opportunity. You know, 729 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 7: I don't want to sit on the couch, even though 730 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 7: my daughter is now twenty three, I don't want to 731 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 7: sit on the couch if I had younger ones, yeah, 732 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 7: and watch something and have them start to crack super 733 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 7: sexual jokes or something like that. I just I don't 734 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 7: want to be uncomfortable with that. I want something that's 735 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 7: easy to watch and comfortable and fun. And you know 736 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 7: that's it. So it's uh, I mean, it's interesting. 737 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: Was truly the first, because even Must See TV came after. 738 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 3: Like it's like you you invented the idea of labeling 739 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: you're a night night or a block as something to 740 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: promote itself for a network. So it's it's like, it's 741 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: so it's so genius how ABC. I mean, maybe they have, 742 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: but I feel like ABC owes you forever and ever. 743 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 7: And ever, that's very very kind. And I don't know 744 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 7: if I was, if I was before Musty TV, but 745 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 7: I I know. I mean, obviously, Vince and John you know, 746 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 7: did a fantastic job promoting that, and that was the 747 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 7: Thursday night block that was unpenetrable and they they were 748 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 7: great and so we it's it was fun. I thank 749 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 7: you for the nice comments. And ABC did very were 750 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 7: They treated me very well. I stayed with ABC and 751 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 7: Disney for through two thousands doing all kinds of things. 752 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 7: So when I had babies, they called me and said, 753 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 7: we want you to do Big Einstein and I was like, 754 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 7: that's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. 755 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about I think we 756 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: pushed it off long enough? How did you not get 757 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: invited to this you two thing? 758 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 4: And what the hell do you know? 759 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 760 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 4: And how is Danielle friends with Bono? And we didn't 761 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: know this the entire time? 762 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 7: What what happened with this? 763 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: The story of the U two shoot? 764 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 7: The U two shoot? So it uh, you know, obviously 765 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 7: we get called and we're like, so, you know, you 766 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 7: two's launching their new pop album in Vegas and Student's 767 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 7: like you want to go? And you know, maybe we'll 768 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 7: pull in one of the talent. Let's see if we 769 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 7: can do that. And I apologized I was not behind 770 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 7: the decision of who got to go, don't. I don't 771 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 7: know I would if so we we I don't remember 772 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 7: how I think, I know, you know, Danielle, your your 773 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 7: your mom or your agents responded right away and said 774 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 7: she loves him, like okay, So we we go out 775 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 7: there and we're getting ready and it's it's it was 776 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 7: a semi live thing. We were racing the clock and 777 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 7: uh it was So that was a kind of a 778 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 7: first for us. We were used to filming something about 779 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 7: a week in advance and being able to take it 780 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 7: to post and turn it around. And so we had 781 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 7: editors standing by and a satellite window sitting open, and so, 782 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 7: you know, we basically were ready and you know, we're 783 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 7: in the tent getting ready. I don't remember the All 784 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 7: I remember is there were you know, a bunch of 785 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 7: stars around us, and we were getting food or something 786 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 7: and getting ready and we were going to go into 787 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 7: the tent with Bono and Edge and you know, have 788 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 7: them do these little bits like you guys do, and 789 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 7: they were all in on it. And then at the 790 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 7: last minute. They because they were premiering I think their 791 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 7: their record and stuff. They tell us they're like, we're 792 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 7: not going to we don't have time, we don't want 793 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 7: to do this, and so we're like, ah, yeah, so 794 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 7: you did, I did. I did. She got to go 795 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 7: in the tent and meet them and and you know, 796 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 7: so that was great where I'm so glad you did 797 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 7: that because that would have sucked store to speak, I apologize, 798 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 7: but but anyway, then she came out and by then 799 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 7: we kind of formulated, Okay, here's what we're going to do. 800 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 7: So you and I and our photographer ran to the 801 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 7: back of the stands and basically I told Danielle, Okay, 802 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 7: now now pretend you're hosting that just it's about to 803 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 7: happen and go live blah blah. And so we I 804 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 7: don't remember what the script was, but we wrote something 805 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 7: pretty quick and you pulled it off. You did a 806 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 7: great job. And we turned the camera around and it 807 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 7: made it look like she was reporting live from the 808 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 7: concert venue. 809 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: Do you picture like if you picture like the Hollywood 810 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 3: Bowl and being like, okay, we're not ready to interview 811 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: people who were going on. 812 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: Stage at the Hollywood Bowl. 813 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 3: And then I'm going, never mind, we don't want to 814 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: We're about ready to do this. 815 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: We're canceling it at the last second. 816 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: And then Jim and I looking at each other and 817 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 3: him going all right, let me put something together. Run 818 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: to the top of the Hollywood Bowl stairs with the 819 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: Hollywood the Bowl behind you, and. 820 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: You're gonna say like, we're here, but you too. He 821 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 2: was about ready the pop and blue and we did. 822 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: I said, somebody, it was like take it away at 823 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: the start of the show. 824 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 7: That was exactly. It was the greatest save and got 825 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 7: lots of lots of kudos. I hope you've heard them too. 826 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 7: The network was very happy. They were not disappointed at all. 827 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 2: So no, they weren't disappointed. They were really happy. 828 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 4: It was only Rider and I were disappointed. 829 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: It's funny because it was a. 830 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 7: Good Yeah, you guys could have been you got I 831 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 7: am again. I'm never to live that one down, I guess. 832 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 4: So we didn't even know about it until ten minutes ago. 833 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, until I'm shaking Bono's hand. I'm not I'm not excited. 834 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: Listen, guys. It was the Q rating. 835 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 7: It was the that's when she walked in it, when 836 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 7: she walked in. You know, Bono went You're the girl 837 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 7: from TG. 838 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: So funny. 839 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 7: It was a very fun concert. It was It was 840 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 7: super cool because we had good seats too. They were 841 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 7: right there pretty much, if I recall, they were up 842 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 7: there in front. 843 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 5: So was there a big shift when Disney bought the network? 844 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 5: Did it change the did it change your job? Did 845 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 5: it change your day to day experience? What did that mean? 846 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 7: There were you know, there were always shifting chairs Disney. 847 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 7: You know, there was a lot of fear when Disney 848 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 7: came in that there was gonna be big, big shifts 849 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 7: in that front. But really, for the most part, they 850 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 7: didn't mess with us too much. Obviously programming, and part 851 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 7: of it is because Bob continued to lead, and so 852 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 7: it was, you know, it was Bob's network basically at 853 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 7: the time, and he held that pretty pretty close to heart, 854 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 7: and the people around him, Stut Bloomberg, all those folks, 855 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 7: you know, were the next in line to continue that on. 856 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 7: So didn't get a lot of that. I noticed, at 857 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 7: least a lot. I mean, there were a few new 858 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 7: bosses and programm execs that came in, but to me, 859 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 7: Disney was all about family. So I was kind of like, okay, 860 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 7: we do yeah, yeah, and so and it did. It 861 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 7: worked very well. We were able. The coolest thing that 862 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 7: I think happened when Disney came in was the idea 863 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 7: of synergy. There wasn't a lot we while we as 864 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 7: a night were all about synergy and talking about other 865 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 7: shows and helping promote one another, the network as a whole, 866 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 7: and other shows that were not necessarily about that or 867 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 7: hadn't really learned to do that. And when when the 868 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 7: Disney came in, then all of a sudden, we have 869 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 7: theme parks, we have cruise lines, we have you know, 870 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 7: these other movies that they're doing that we can suddenly 871 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 7: you know, latch onto and do co promotions with and 872 00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 7: had a lot more money to work with. Yeah exactly, Yeah. 873 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 874 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: Were you also helping to decide what shows were on 875 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: T G I F Were you? 876 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 4: Were you actually picking the content that went on the night. 877 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 7: We didn't get that much that was in the programming 878 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 7: department's decision. We were involved in meetings like that, so 879 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 7: they you know, we got to hear and and you know, 880 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 7: hear the meetings and go through some of the pitches 881 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So but I would they listen 882 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 7: to exactly what we thought. No, I wouldn't necessarily. 883 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 5: Does that mean that you would have to be promoting 884 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 5: something and knowing it was probably not going to catch on? 885 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 5: That that would often happen, right Like you would be 886 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 5: saddled with a show and they'd be pitching you and 887 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 5: You're like, how do I promote this? This is a 888 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 5: stinker that must have happened, right. 889 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 7: Oh, just a few times. 890 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 5: Were you ever surprised? Were you ever like this is 891 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 5: probably not okay? Could could you? Because that will be 892 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 5: Can you name a successful where you were like, I 893 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 5: don't get that. 894 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 7: I will get in trouble if I say it, but 895 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 7: I will say it because I'm nearly retired anyway, and 896 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 7: I probably deserve this. So in one of those big 897 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 7: round table meetings, and I've admitted this to to you know, 898 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 7: Bob Boyette and Tom Miller before, and I've even to 899 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 7: the cast so full house, I was one of the 900 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 7: guys in the meeting. We were in the meeting programming meeting, 901 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 7: and they were talking about the queues and all this stuff. 902 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 7: And again I was young and just learning my roots, 903 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 7: and I was and t g if was barely even there. 904 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 7: I don't think that had even been recognized that much yet. 905 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 7: But I just was like, I didn't get it. I 906 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 7: was just like I because I had been on set 907 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 7: and I watched them feed the little you know, feed 908 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 7: Ashley and Mary Kate Lynes and love them. I mean 909 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 7: I worked with them a ton afterwards, and they were, 910 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 7: you know, they're nothing but sweet. The whole cast was wonderful, 911 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 7: and I just didn't get it. And I was just like, 912 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 7: I don't I don't think they can act. I don't 913 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 7: think they can do the you know. It just wasn't 914 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 7: feel it didn't feel right. And this was their season 915 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 7: one and it did take them two seasons to catch on. 916 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 7: But that's my big oops, I would say. 917 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: And that's also in television allowed a show to grow 918 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: though it's like, Okay, the show is not going really well, Well, 919 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,959 Speaker 1: we're still going to give. 920 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 4: It a season or two. 921 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: That just doesn't absolutely get an episode now when you're 922 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: out well, but. 923 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 5: That's what TGIF could afford. I mean, that's part of it. 924 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 5: Like the risk mitigation for the network is also artistically 925 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 5: for the creators. Risk mitigation like that allows them the 926 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 5: chance to like to grail around for a couple episodes, 927 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 5: get their act together and figure out how to you know, 928 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 5: how to make it. Yeah, it's really everybody wins. It 929 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 5: seems like in that situation. 930 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 7: That was the idea was the whole was greater than 931 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 7: the sum of the parts. That was our line, as 932 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 7: we would if we worked together, we would all do it. 933 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 7: And that became part of the contract if you joined 934 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 7: t G. If you weren't allowed to say I can't, 935 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 7: I'm not doing that, you know you basically you had 936 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 7: to be part of the family, so to speak, and 937 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 7: do things with us. 938 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 3: Well. I also want to talk about you mentioned it 939 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 3: with the U two one where it could have been 940 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 3: a disaster a shoot, but we saved it. It wasn't 941 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 3: a disaster a shoot in the end. But I do 942 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 3: want to know do you have any stories of true disaster. 943 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 5: I want to know who refused to do the TJ 944 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 5: But I would love to hear a story of somebody. 945 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 5: You don't have to say, I want to hear what this. 946 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, Dinosaurs was very difficult to work with. Kid they were, 947 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 7: but that was you know, that show was very difficult 948 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 7: to do. I mean poor people, those poor people would 949 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 7: be throwing up in the suits because they were so 950 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 7: hot and they were just doing things they were and 951 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 7: the sets were you know, these immense things. So so no, 952 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 7: we didn't have anything. I would say, you know, some 953 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 7: of the craziest, funniest things would happen when you know, 954 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 7: like shooting with the Muppets. The Muppets would you know, 955 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 7: call us out and you know off camera those guys 956 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,959 Speaker 7: can be hilarious. Start calling you out. Yeah, I start 957 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 7: calling you out on things you have gonzo bitch and etches, 958 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 7: stuff like that, you know. So I'm trying to think 959 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 7: of other things. We didn't really have big disasters, you know, nothing. 960 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 7: Camp Wilder could sometimes get a little crazy. J Moore 961 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 7: is a nut, you know, I don't know, you know 962 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 7: Jay and so, and we had him for a season 963 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 7: work working with us and he was kind of like 964 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 7: herding cats and you know he was but good guy. 965 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 7: You know he did he meant nothing but good. But definitely, uh, I. 966 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: Would say, difficult talent. 967 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 7: Besides Danielle, I got those guys. Let's see, I don't 968 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 7: really think we did. I mean, we had some that 969 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 7: didn't want to do things, but that's about it. I 970 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 7: mean I think about it now and I'm like, God, 971 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 7: you know, Patrick Duffy and Suzanne and Summers were always 972 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 7: in for things. They would always be willing. You guys 973 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 7: were always willing. You know Karen Miller, who you probably also. 974 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 7: I don't know if you know Karen. I think Sandy 975 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 7: would integrate with you. But Karen was on the side 976 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 7: of Miller Boyett, and she was kind of what I 977 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 7: would She was the Sandy or the the the peacekeeper, 978 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 7: you know, whenever she would feel about what's going on 979 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 7: in the shows. Because we knew you had some shows 980 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 7: that were difficult, and so we would try to stay 981 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 7: away from you when you were in you know, a 982 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 7: heavy production that you had something going that you couldn't 983 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 7: So we would always navigate that through you know, Sandy 984 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 7: or through Karen Miller to get you know, to get 985 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 7: the right cast. So often when people would turn us down, 986 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 7: it was because it was a crazy week or something 987 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 7: was way off, or someone might be sick or you 988 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 7: know that kind of thing. 989 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 4: Now, who would decide who would go with whom? 990 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: Because we had Jalil White on and we figured out 991 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,280 Speaker 1: as we were sitting here, like T Boy Meets World 992 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: and Family Matters never did promos together, and he said, 993 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: it's because that they were owned by Warner Brothers and 994 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: we were owned by Disney, so they were never allowed 995 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: We were never really allowed to connect. 996 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 4: Is that something you remember or was that done by design? 997 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 7: No, it wasn't done by design. We would have probably 998 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 7: loved to mix cast like that. And part of it 999 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 7: was because of how things were getting paid, so you know, 1000 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 7: the network wasn't the network was reimbursing studio for cost 1001 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 7: and Warner Brothers was obviously the one studio and so 1002 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 7: you know, for the hour two hours ot that we 1003 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 7: might pull, that was more the issue than anything as 1004 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 7: how do they mix. Now, when we did preview specials 1005 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 7: and things like that, we would try to mix a 1006 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 7: little bit and you know, get them. But and I 1007 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 7: completely forgotten how that you can bring up family matters. 1008 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 7: I mean they were great. We had some you know, 1009 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 7: there were some conflicts on that show a little bit, 1010 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 7: but they would always get through them and and do things, 1011 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 7: so it wasn't it wasn't horrible. 1012 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 5: I remember doing the tg IF spots was my first 1013 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 5: experience with a teleprompter. Oh, I remember, like it was 1014 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 5: really yeah, well yeah, because I was twelve or thirteen 1015 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 5: years old. I remember like them rolling in the thing 1016 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 5: and putting. 1017 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 7: In I was like, oh my god, so weird. It 1018 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 7: makes life much easier. Does so weird? 1019 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 5: Though I hated it, I remember hate it. I was like, no, 1020 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 5: I just want to learn the lines. I don't want 1021 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 5: to have to look at it. It's so weird. 1022 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 7: I love you guys, did good. I never you never 1023 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 7: knew it. 1024 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you were made to be a good host. 1025 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 5: This is why you got a good telegraphs. 1026 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: Well it is. I do remember. I do remember. 1027 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but I 1028 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: do remember back in the day when I got because 1029 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 3: I got asked to do a lot of them. I 1030 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 3: did a lot of interstitials, a lot of little things 1031 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 3: for for tg IF, and I remember them saying, you're 1032 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 3: really good at it, and you're super fast. We could 1033 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 3: get in and out, we could shoot a bu bunch 1034 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 3: of different interstitials all in one time. And I was 1035 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 3: because I was quick at reading off the teleprompter. I 1036 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 3: was a you could throw me into any situation. 1037 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: And I was. 1038 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 4: Always also talk fast. 1039 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: I talked fast. 1040 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 3: I have a bunch of I had tons of energy. 1041 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 2: Energy, it's all there. 1042 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 7: I don't think we ever had to had to say hey, 1043 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 7: can you kinda We never had to say energy, can 1044 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 7: you can of just make it like you're having fun? 1045 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 2: Well, we did not. 1046 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 3: It was interesting to hear you talk about reimbursing the production. 1047 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 3: We did not get paid for those. 1048 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 2: Those were part of. 1049 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 3: That was just it was considered promo, even though you 1050 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 3: guys went to the FCC. 1051 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: Additional stuff. 1052 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: But let me tell you something, We did not know that. 1053 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 3: But let me tell you something. When I started getting 1054 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 3: asked to do more and more of these interstitials, and 1055 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 3: I got to a point where I just said I 1056 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 3: don't want to. 1057 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 2: It was always on a weekend. 1058 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 3: It was like it was an extra day out of 1059 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 3: my schedule where they would want me to go and 1060 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 3: do something. You guys, we did a thing where we 1061 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 3: went to Danielle's hometown, We went to your Belinda, we 1062 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 3: did I was doing a lot of them, and I 1063 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 3: just started saying, no, like, these are a lot of them, 1064 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 3: and so my mom's this is the. 1065 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 7: One I couldn't talk about being in trouble, you. 1066 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 5: Know, the one you forgot, the one the one I 1067 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 5: forgot that I. 1068 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 7: Couldn't bring up of them. 1069 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 3: Went to Judy and said, I don't know what to 1070 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: do because they want daniel to do these and I 1071 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 3: feel bad because it is it's a day out of 1072 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 3: Danielle's schedule. She's it's usually or we would do it 1073 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 3: on a hiatus week when I'd be back at my 1074 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 3: regular school and I would just want to be at 1075 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 3: my regular school. 1076 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm on hiatus, I want to go back. 1077 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 3: And so they said, what if we paid her? What 1078 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 3: if we paid her a very what Eventually I did? 1079 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 5: They said on YouTube, we were also not getting. 1080 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 7: If you were on set, you didn't get I did not. 1081 00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 2: That's colt. 1082 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 3: If I was on set, I did not. If I 1083 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 3: was off set, I did, and my mom. So then 1084 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 3: my mom came to me and said, okay, they're going 1085 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 3: to pay you. And I you know, I never saw 1086 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 3: any of my money. My money all went into an account, 1087 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 3: and so I was like, so what does this mean 1088 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 3: to me? 1089 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: Not even just who can account? 1090 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 7: My parents? 1091 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 3: Like my mom was like, all right, whatever the interstitial 1092 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 3: money is, I'll let you have it. 1093 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: It can be Madli. 1094 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 3: And she would give me like say I'd get paid 1095 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 3: seven seven hundred and fifty bucks or something for the 1096 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 3: day of whatever it was. She just give me seven 1097 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bucks and I'd go to coffee Bean 1098 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 3: and I'd get. 1099 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 2: To go in all yeah, and I was like, this 1100 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: is amazing. This is more money than teenage Danielle had 1101 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 2: ever seen. 1102 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 7: And so it was awesome. 1103 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 3: It did. 1104 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 2: It ended up making it for me my coffee be fun. 1105 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, great story, that's great story. That is that is awesome. Yeah, 1106 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 7: and I don't you know, I know they tried the 1107 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 7: best always to make sure no offense. Guys. I mean, 1108 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 7: I'm sure if you'd come off set and done something, 1109 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 7: it would have gotten you would have gotten paid. 1110 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's okay. 1111 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: I also made fifty percent less than every other cast 1112 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 3: member on the show. Actually, yeah, so the fact that 1113 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 3: I got paid a little seven hundred and fifty or 1114 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: fifteen hundred dollars here and there is Yeah, it was. 1115 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 3: It was just a little thing. So you mentioned preview specials. 1116 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 3: We are actually about ready to do a recap soon. 1117 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 3: But did you do the Boy Meets World Saturday Morning cartoons. 1118 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 2: Preview or yeah? 1119 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, so we did. Yeah, those were us the we 1120 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 7: all that kind of fun post work. And I know 1121 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 7: you were paid on those. Yeah, yeah, but you had 1122 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 7: to be because that came through my company actually, but yeah, 1123 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 7: we were. When TJF became a hit, Jenny Treis, who 1124 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 7: was president at the time of Children's called and wanted 1125 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 7: us to do a lot of interaction and try to 1126 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 7: pull a cast because the Gauge group was just a 1127 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 7: little younger at Saturday Morning than it was what we 1128 00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 7: were getting on Fridays. So we were we asked to 1129 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 7: get involved with all those and come up with things, 1130 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 7: ways to promote new Saturday Morning things, stuff like that. 1131 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 8: So yeah, so wait, can I ask a question then, 1132 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 8: and maybe you know this, Why did TGIF end? 1133 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 4: Was it just ratings? I mean, why did it go away? 1134 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 7: Good question? And you know, for me, I had done 1135 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 7: some things where I again it had gotten a pretty 1136 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 7: you know, I don't know. They again new powers come 1137 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 7: in and they want a fresh look and I remember 1138 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 7: that they and no offense to them because you know, 1139 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 7: they got new marketing execs in that took over when 1140 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 7: Mark Zachran left. I think Bob Iger had moved on 1141 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 7: to his new powers, and they hire an agency, Chaia Day, 1142 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,240 Speaker 7: which was the hip agency. Again, this was the fomo 1143 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 7: things at the time, and shayat Day got really deeply 1144 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 7: involved in things and changed everything to Yellow and Black, 1145 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 7: and it was kind of an interesting turn of events. 1146 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: Promotions on your Couch, Your Friends, the couch your Friend, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1147 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 3: it's good for you, you know. 1148 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 4: Couch potatoes, the world, all that stuff. 1149 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly exactly. And so they were edgy and different 1150 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 7: and all that stuff. But they came in and made 1151 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 7: a lot of dramatic changes on the programming side too, 1152 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 7: and suggestions there. And I don't know if it helped 1153 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 7: or hurt at all. I mean, it's kind of hard 1154 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 7: to how to track. But part of the deal was, 1155 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 7: you know, I think they had gone, oh, we're kind 1156 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 7: of tired of this, and you know, maybe we should 1157 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 7: try something different. And I think we were twelve years 1158 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 7: in and I was getting offers to do some other 1159 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 7: things too, and I was just like, you know, I again, 1160 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 7: it wasn't while I loved every bit of it, we 1161 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 7: weren't making huge money on it either, yeah, and so 1162 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 7: we were kind of like, Okay, maybe we should start 1163 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 7: moving a little more into programming. And so they turned 1164 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 7: it over to some other folks in house at ABC, 1165 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 7: and I think they kind of died there because they 1166 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 7: just did not because they didn't do a good job. 1167 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 7: But it just wasn't you know, it wasn't the same. 1168 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you started there at twenty three. 1169 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 3: How old were you when you eventually left ABC. 1170 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 7: I left ABC pretty early on and started my own company. 1171 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 7: So that's an interesting story too. So I when TGIF 1172 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 7: was starting to hit big, I happened to my mom 1173 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 7: had gotten very sick with Parkinson's and so my mom 1174 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 7: and dad were back in Colorado, and I was kind 1175 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 7: of like, and at the time, I was dating a 1176 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 7: young lady who also was from Colorado who was not loving. 1177 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 7: She worked for Columbia Pictures, for the president of Columbia Pictures, 1178 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 7: and was not having fun. 1179 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: So glad you said that the way you said it 1180 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: was like I was dating a young woman who was 1181 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 1: not loving. 1182 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 9: I was like, oh God, she wasn't loving her job, 1183 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 9: she wasn't loving, wasn't loving her job, and and so 1184 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 9: and we all were kind of you know, going to 1185 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 9: la Is is tough, and so with the sickness of 1186 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 9: my mom, I kind of started to push and go, 1187 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 9: I really should be back there with them, And I 1188 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 9: went to Bob Iger, I went to Mark Zachron and 1189 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 9: Stub Brower, my boss, and said, I you know, I 1190 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 9: think I'm going to have to leave because of this 1191 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 9: is going on. 1192 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 7: And they marched me into Bob Iger's office and I 1193 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 7: was like, oh crap, I'm going to get it. And basically, 1194 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 7: you know, we talked about a couple of different things, 1195 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 7: and this is how great those people are. Bob looked 1196 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 7: at me and said, rather than do that, why don't 1197 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 7: you start your own company and we will, you know, 1198 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 7: put you under a contract. And that's what they did. 1199 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 7: And it went on for for almost twenty years. So 1200 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 7: it's they were They were great, and so you know, 1201 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 7: I owe a lot to them for being you know, 1202 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 7: respectful and kind on that part. So I did go 1203 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 7: back to Colorado and flew out almost every week or 1204 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 7: you know, the shoots and stuff like that, and then 1205 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 7: did my edit and worked back in Colorado because there 1206 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 7: were a number of sizeable posthouses there and could do that. 1207 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 7: So it ultimately all worked out. And then and now 1208 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 7: I'm back in La with my wife, a different, different 1209 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 7: girl that lay He's awesome and she she we moved 1210 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 7: to Sant Clementy and so we have a place in 1211 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 7: Colorado and in San Clementy and we just live in 1212 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 7: a good life. 1213 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 2: So I love that. Good for you. 1214 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, cable reactions when you tell them that you created 1215 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 3: the tgif block do, people must like lose their minds 1216 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 3: about that. 1217 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 7: I don't tell them, you don't, I don't sit. 1218 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 5: I've got to brag more. 1219 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 7: I don't brag. I don't. I don't tell them unless 1220 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 7: they ask or look me up. And so I'm not 1221 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 7: a I'm kind of shy about that and not. You know, 1222 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 7: it was a product of a lot of people. It 1223 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 7: took a lot of collaboration, including you guys to make 1224 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 7: it all happen, people to agree, you know, to pull 1225 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 7: some strings and be willing to give some of their 1226 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 7: time to make it go. So it was a wonderful 1227 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 7: what would I call it, a wonderful circum you know, 1228 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 7: or unique come together of events that just turned into 1229 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 7: something incredible. And I was very blessed to be part 1230 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 7: of it. So it was neat. I kind of wish 1231 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 7: I had leveraged it a little more down the road, 1232 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 7: but I you know, I didn't. I just kept going 1233 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 7: with what came my way and you know, promoted. I 1234 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 7: didn't use it enough to get meetings. 1235 01:01:54,840 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 2: Probably would like to meet with you, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1236 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 7: I never used that and I I so I never 1237 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 7: you know, but I did get to go work for 1238 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 7: NBC some and Vince and Tom and you know, do 1239 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 7: different things for a number of people. Helped launch Hallmark 1240 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 7: and all kinds of fun. 1241 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 2: And that was all Jenask Media. That's your media company, right. 1242 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,959 Speaker 7: Janask Entertainment and Jens Entertainment or Janasach Media. Yeah. But yeah, 1243 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 7: I got to work with a lot of great folks. 1244 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 7: I mean, we you know, one thing would lead to another. 1245 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 7: When I was back in Colorado, I met the founder 1246 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 7: of Stars who has become a good friend in his family, 1247 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 7: and we helped launch Stars, and then that led to Hallmark, 1248 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 7: you know, and Hallmark was launching and I met Margaret 1249 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 7: Lesh and Lenn Marino and helped do that and just 1250 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 7: one thing goes to another, you know, the Baby Einstein stuff. 1251 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 7: It's like, you just kind of that was weird how 1252 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 7: that one happened. It's just they had heard that I 1253 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 7: had twins, and my twins were like, you're like eighteen 1254 01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 7: months old. They had Jenny Trias had had me introduced 1255 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 7: to the people who were doing DVDs at the time 1256 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 7: at ABC, and ABC was competing, you know, to get 1257 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 7: DVDs out there that was the big market at the time, 1258 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 7: and they asked me to come in and try to 1259 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 7: develop something to knock off this brand that was was 1260 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 7: being a pain in their butt on the shelves. They 1261 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 7: couldn't compete with the shelf space. And they showed it 1262 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 7: to me and it was Baby Einstein and they were like, 1263 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 7: this is really doing well and we need to figure 1264 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 7: out why. And so I looked at it, and this 1265 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 7: was before I had kids, and I was like, oh 1266 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 7: my god, what is that? And I couldn't understand it, 1267 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 7: couldn't get it. And then a year and a half 1268 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 7: went by they didn't do anything with what we had proposed, 1269 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 7: and I got a call from the head of Home 1270 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 7: Entertainment and she said, hey, I want you to I 1271 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 7: heard you had twins and you know, having dark circles 1272 01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 7: under my eye and yeah, I heard you had twins, 1273 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 7: and hey, congratulations. And by the way, that brand that 1274 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 7: we were talking to you about, we just bought it 1275 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 7: and would you come in and look at that and 1276 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 7: see what did it? And so I met with the 1277 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 7: original creators, who were genius in their effort. And you know, 1278 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 7: Julie Clark and her husband had generally had basically taken 1279 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 7: it from their heart and their envisioned you know, ideas 1280 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 7: and created this thing that became crack for babies. And 1281 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 7: you know, then they and they showed me how to 1282 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 7: you know what it was about. There's there's a lot 1283 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 7: in timing and there's probably more brain damage in one 1284 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 7: of those shows than what you would ever think of 1285 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 7: going into other things because of timing and heartbeat tracking 1286 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 7: and all this other stuff that we would do. And 1287 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 7: but and then so my job was to take it 1288 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 7: to the next level, add bigger puppet shows do things 1289 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 7: which I love puppets because I was working with the 1290 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 7: muppets and all those things, so you know, I'll fit. 1291 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 7: So I worked. It was fun. Wow. 1292 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 3: Well, Jim, you are going to see in the comments 1293 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 3: when we post this on social media, but there are 1294 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 3: going to be a lot of people who are going 1295 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 3: to thank you for your work and for your ideas. 1296 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 3: It was really great and gracious of you to come 1297 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 3: and spend a little bit of time with us talking 1298 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 3: about this. 1299 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 2: You know, working with you doing those promos. It's such 1300 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 2: like when we've. 1301 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 3: Talked since starting the podcast about the things we remember 1302 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 3: the most, it's actually not the stuff that's the shooting 1303 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,479 Speaker 3: of the show necessarily, it's all it's us, us. 1304 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 2: In the school room and also us doing the promos. 1305 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 3: I have so many memories of TGIF promos and of 1306 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 3: us saying you know from they were. They were fun, 1307 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 3: even if it was we're going to cram this in. 1308 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 3: We know your go, go go, you gotta get in. 1309 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving, you guys. 1310 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 7: Did fantastic and you always nailed it in one or 1311 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 7: two takes. It was you were always just amazing and 1312 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,479 Speaker 7: so and it's so cool to see you guys. I 1313 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 7: just and I love that you remember me. I they 1314 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 7: probably don't, you guys. 1315 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 3: The minute I saw your picture, it was like the name. 1316 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I know that name. And then 1317 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 3: the minute I saw your picture, I was like, oh 1318 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 3: my gosh. 1319 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 7: Of course I remember him, remember him and Danielle. Just 1320 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 7: quickly I saw you're directing something coming up right? Are 1321 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 7: you something right now doing? Remind me what it was. 1322 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 2: I just saw a year fifteen years for ABC. 1323 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, awesome for you, that's awesome. 1324 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 3: It was a really wonderful experience. You know, hoping they 1325 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 3: had ten in their first season. I'm really hoping we 1326 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 3: get words soon that they'll be getting a season two 1327 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 3: and hopefully a full order, and when that happens, I'm 1328 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 3: hoping I'll be back. 1329 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 7: That's awesome. It's Tim Allen show, right, Yeah, yeah, I 1330 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 7: worked with him once. Filming with Tim Allen was always fun. 1331 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 7: He was he was crazy, so we had it. We 1332 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 7: did a promo with him getting abducted but by a 1333 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:16,479 Speaker 7: UFO and then brought back because they didn't want itsious. 1334 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 2: That's great, So that's funny. 1335 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,959 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell Jonathan it was so nice talking with you. 1336 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here with absolutely. 1337 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 7: I hope we'll see you in person some days. Yeah, 1338 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 7: and I love watching your careers blossom. Yeah. I mean, 1339 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 7: you guys have done amazing things. 1340 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 2: And lets me do you too, concert going. 1341 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 4: Up there? 1342 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, let's go. 1343 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 7: To the sphere they were Yeah right, that's cool. I 1344 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 7: haven't done that yet. 1345 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. 1346 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Too. By he was there, I mean he was there 1347 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: for like, first of all, hearing that all of ABC 1348 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: is like eight hundred people, because you thought it was 1349 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: thousands on thousands of this army of people that so 1350 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: to realize it was actually kind of small and spread 1351 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 1: out throughout the country and there's meetings with just twenty people. 1352 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 1353 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Help help Bob Iger, saying to him, don't quit, Yeah, 1354 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 3: start a company, company and let us hire you. 1355 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, you think there's has been as successful as see. 1356 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 4: Yes, let's get him on the show. I think I 1357 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 4: bet you Bob will come on the show. 1358 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 3: Man. 1359 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 2: I would love to have Bob on the show. 1360 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Oh, Man, that'd be great. 1361 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 3: But also, like Jim Janisek gave so and he should, 1362 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 3: he gave so much credit to Bob, and he to 1363 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 3: all of ABC, but like cam ABC for ten years 1364 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 3: because of that twenty three year old kid they hired, Yeah, 1365 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 3: owned a night of television. 1366 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah for a decade. 1367 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was there, Musty TV. It was 1368 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 1: there Thursday that Friday was. I remember moving out to 1369 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: to when I moved out to La with Spencer, who 1370 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: worked at Fox the time, and Fox was just up 1371 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: and coming. He said to me they had a meeting 1372 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: where they said, oh, we don't even worry about planning 1373 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Friday nights. ABC owns Friday Night just like you just 1374 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: never get it, he said, we did. We're not even 1375 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 1: gonna bother and so I just yeah, it was a juggernaut. 1376 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 5: It was amazing. 1377 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean we're talking billions of dollars in revenue yep 1378 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 3: for ABC because because that twenty three year old kid. 1379 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Was like, you know what my family used to do. 1380 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 2: We used to sit around and watch TV as a family. 1381 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm pitching to ABC doing a TGIF night. 1382 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,639 Speaker 1: We do one Friday night where all the casts get 1383 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 1: back together and do like a scene from one. 1384 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 4: Of their shows now at the age we are now, and. 1385 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: We just do a brand new boy meets World scene, 1386 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 1: a brand new full house scene, a brand new family 1387 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: matter scene. You get the perfect strangers. 1388 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 4: Guys back together. It'd be a whole night. It'd be 1389 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 4: just one a ton of fun. 1390 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 5: What kind of weird issues does that involve? 1391 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 7: Though? 1392 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 5: Like with who knows? Of the shows? 1393 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows? 1394 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 5: Can you get the rights to like play the characters 1395 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 5: in a different meme? 1396 01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1397 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 4: I mean ABC has done this thing now where they're 1398 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 4: doing live. 1399 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 1: Episodes of like all the old shows with brand new 1400 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: casts like All in the Family and all this kind 1401 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 1: of stuff, So they're thinking outside the box. 1402 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 4: Maybe who knows? 1403 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 2: Pretty great? 1404 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, thank you all for listening to this episode of 1405 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 3: Pod Meets World. 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