Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god you killed me? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, and time.
Speaker 2: Taking me and you together up?
Speaker 3: We can.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can take you show.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, welcome back to Frindal Advisory, Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 2: This is Erica and Mila and we.
Speaker 4: Have a special guest here today, my friend Amina Butterfly.
Speaker 2: Hello. If you don't know Amina.
Speaker 4: She is a super duper talented singer, beautiful single mama
Speaker 4: of two beautiful little girls, one that's sitting right here.
Speaker 3: At you.
Speaker 4: In the house, make sure to check out her Instagram
Speaker 4: is just.
Speaker 2: Bu d d A. That's Fly. So how was your weekend?
Speaker 2: My weekend was really good? Wait this weekend? I went
Speaker 2: to New York this past weekend, did you? I don't know.
Speaker 4: No, So we were we pre recorded our last episode
Speaker 4: and we told you we were pre recording it because
Speaker 4: we had Jamila had to do. She had a trip
Speaker 4: planned and she was going to update us on her trip.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I went to Jersey to see my
Speaker 1: homegirl and my little young thing over the weeks.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: My friend has epic house parties, so she had an
Speaker 1: epic Memorial Day house pool house party all day shindig.
Speaker 2: It was poppin shout out to Amara. Yeah it was fun.
Speaker 2: I had a good time. That's cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a little went out to Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: hung out a little bit, chicked a little ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really mostly it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I don't remember what I did Memorial Day weekends,
Speaker 4: we'll just skip mine.
Speaker 2: Well, what did you do this past Weekause? When you
Speaker 2: did this past week, it was pretty fucking lit, bitch.
Speaker 4: Well, if you were listening to our last episode, you
Speaker 4: know that I got invited to Nicaragua and I was
Speaker 4: conflicted on whether or not I was going to go. Well,
Speaker 4: I went, and let me just tell you, it was
Speaker 4: kind of a shit show. I mean it ended up
Speaker 4: being okay, it was definitely an adventure. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: went to Nicaragua, had to evacuate, had to evacuate the
Speaker 4: day that I landed because they're trying to overthrow their president.
Speaker 4: When I when I pulled in from the airport, the
Speaker 4: sky came and picked me up. The person who invited
Speaker 4: me didn't tell me the hotel was two and a
Speaker 4: half hours away from the airport. So I'm driving in
Speaker 4: the jungle at night with the stranger and then we
Speaker 4: like get to this roadblock and there's like all these
Speaker 4: trees in the street and masked men with machetes and
Speaker 4: AK forty sevens, and I'm like, what the fuck I'm
Speaker 4: gonna die And the guy.
Speaker 2: Was like, Oh, it's okay, don't worry.
Speaker 4: They just want money, and I'm like, oh, okay, don't worry.
Speaker 2: So we pay them off.
Speaker 4: Then we get to another place, but this time there's
Speaker 4: like they've like started little fires.
Speaker 2: There's like little fires. Girl.
Speaker 4: They had like closed the road off with tree trunks
Speaker 4: and then had lit fires like blowing off like fireworks,
Speaker 4: and they were like having a party, but then also
Speaker 4: had machetes and were masked and had AK forty seven
Speaker 4: So it was really scary for an American and Central America.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I finally got through, got to the hotel,
Speaker 4: went to sleep, woke up, and enjoined Nicarago for.
Speaker 2: Like four hours. Then our hotel called.
Speaker 4: Us and Steven need to come back and we have
Speaker 4: to evacuate because an American was killed and shit was
Speaker 4: going down and we weren't able to fly out of
Speaker 4: our airport anymore, so we had to rebook our flights
Speaker 4: of Costa Rica across the border in Costa Rica, which
Speaker 4: was definitely an adventure as well and.
Speaker 2: Half hours ride from Nicaraga to Costa Rica.
Speaker 4: The border was an hour and a half. So then
Speaker 4: like we went through the border, they stamped our passports.
Speaker 4: Like three other people looked at our passports and then
Speaker 4: we drove off. So then we get like about almost
Speaker 4: like forty five minutes into Costa Rica and there's another
Speaker 4: passport stuff. They checked our passports and they're like, you
Speaker 4: don't have a passport stamp for Costa Rica.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, we do.
Speaker 4: Someone stamped our passport and they were like no, it's
Speaker 4: for Nicaragua.
Speaker 2: And I was like what, you gotta go back.
Speaker 4: So we had to drive back again forty five minutes
Speaker 4: to get the stamp.
Speaker 2: And drive back.
Speaker 4: It was cool anyway, Sunday was great. I spent the
Speaker 4: day at the beach Nicaragua and.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 4: It was I'm tired, would you go back? I would
Speaker 4: go back to both places. Nicaragua needs to calm the
Speaker 4: fuck down, but after they do that, I will be back.
Speaker 2: But for sure Costa Rica. It was fun and my
Speaker 2: trip was fun. It was cool.
Speaker 4: It was kind of a lesson, like don't go on
Speaker 4: a trip with someone that you are not really that into.
Speaker 2: Right, So did you feel obligated to?
Speaker 1: Like, you know, women, we have this bad habit of
Speaker 1: feeling obligated because you know, the society we live in,
Speaker 1: I know, we feel like we have to give it
Speaker 1: up just because they gave us, like a nice gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I bought a plane tecut.
Speaker 4: Well, that's part of the reason I went, because I
Speaker 4: told you, like, I wanted to like challenge myself because yeah,
Speaker 4: in the past, I felt like, oh, we'll be like
Speaker 4: if you know, I'm sure so many people listening can relate.
Speaker 4: Like you start to have sex, or you start to
Speaker 4: do something with someone and you're afraid.
Speaker 2: Like you're you're not into it.
Speaker 4: You realize you're not into it, but you're afraid to
Speaker 4: like tell them, so you just let it cap.
Speaker 2: Because blue balls is a real disease. It's not even
Speaker 2: that it's like you don't want to.
Speaker 4: Make them feel bad or you just don't want to
Speaker 4: deal with the awkwardness of like saying, hey, I changed
Speaker 4: my mind.
Speaker 2: I changed my mind, and fuck that.
Speaker 4: You have every right to do that, and I know that,
Speaker 4: but I still don't put it into practice because I'd
Speaker 4: rather just avoid it, you know, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: I damn, but it's grown age. Do you think we'd
Speaker 2: like be grown enough to be like no.
Speaker 4: I know we're so independent not but it's just it's
Speaker 4: a fucked up thing like that that women feel a blog,
Speaker 4: you know, like obligated.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right.
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know, if I feel like it,
Speaker 4: then maybe I will. But I didn't feel like it.
Speaker 4: I just didn't get them. I just wasn't feeling it
Speaker 4: like that. Like I think the guy that I went
Speaker 4: with is a really really nice guy and he's a friend,
Speaker 4: like we're genuinely friends.
Speaker 2: But I just it's not there. It's not no, it's no,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing you could do about that. Like sometimes
Speaker 2: she's think, oh my god, what a nice person.
Speaker 1: You kind of have attractive maybe I should like you,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, no, it's.
Speaker 2: Not happening to happen. I was doing all those things.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's this. I was like, oh, why
Speaker 2: this sucks? Man, he's got a ship together. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyway, it was a great trip overall ish, but
Speaker 4: I'm really happy to be home.
Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. How was your weekend? A Mina would you
Speaker 2: do well for memorial I was in Vegas. Oh, I
Speaker 2: saw that. I was fun. It was crazy.
Speaker 3: It was it was crazy but fun because we kind
Speaker 3: of like balanced it out, like I didn't do more
Speaker 3: than I think.
Speaker 2: The first day we did like two parties, but the.
Speaker 3: Second day we only did a day thing and the
Speaker 3: night we relaxed, which was great because I drove and
Speaker 3: the next morning I had to drive back to the kids.
Speaker 2: So you went for one day, Yeah, I went for actually.
Speaker 3: Two nights, two nights and one day. So the second
Speaker 3: day was just the day party.
Speaker 2: All day and I drank too much, but I made
Speaker 2: sure that I you know, I was. I got my
Speaker 2: rest before the drive back. So yeah, it was good.
Speaker 2: I needed it.
Speaker 4: I feel like Vegas day parties are way better than
Speaker 4: their even night parties.
Speaker 2: I go to Vegas with the party.
Speaker 4: I had day party than the night one. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's just more fun. You're in the water, even
Speaker 4: though that water nasty, but after a few drinks you
Speaker 4: don't care.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh it's green, but at least I'm cool
Speaker 2: down now. But I can't do the non stuff anymore.
Speaker 2: Like if I do a day party, you're not making
Speaker 2: the night. Now dinner right at night night, we did
Speaker 2: dinner and that was it. There's definitely like a difference
Speaker 2: going into the Vegas as an adult. You're like, okay, hang,
Speaker 2: I you doing it. I'm here for the oysters and
Speaker 2: the steak and ship and then the spot.
Speaker 4: Last time I went to Vegas, I went to the spot.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is how people do this night.
Speaker 2: A right.
Speaker 4: But as far as current events go in the world, Oh,
Speaker 4: Kate Spade died today, guys, that's so key. Kate's Spade
Speaker 4: committed suicide in her apartment in New York City. Somehow
Speaker 4: her husband was there during the during that time, her
Speaker 4: maid found her in her bedroom at ten thirty am
Speaker 4: and she hung herself with a scarf, and apparently there
Speaker 4: was a suicide note to her daughter, and I guess
Speaker 4: the police were alluding to the fact that she was
Speaker 4: having marital problems.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was really sad, unexpected.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's young, she's pretty young, and not to mention,
Speaker 1: she's Kate's Spade.
Speaker 2: I remember, like one of Kate's bade bags so bad.
Speaker 2: When I was really.
Speaker 4: I went to a bougie school and all the rich
Speaker 4: white girls had Kate's bade bags.
Speaker 2: I was like, mom, I wanted Kate's spade bag. She
Speaker 2: was like what who taught you that?
Speaker 4: And her and to think like me at like twelve,
Speaker 4: want of a Kate's sadeback. Her designs were very like mature. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're still rich like for like they're for like old
Speaker 4: white Jewish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not like not my style at all, but
Speaker 2: everybody else. Yeah. So that's sad though, especially for her
Speaker 2: daughter is the daughter I think she's twelve. Damn, oh
Speaker 2: my god, no, it's bad. Yeah, that's the only thing
Speaker 2: I think of, Like when people like who.
Speaker 1: Have kids, like I cannot really I mean obviously I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but like we have kids.
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, get that shit together. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you leave your child on this
Speaker 4: earth before you have to go, right, you know. It's
Speaker 4: just I mean, she has she had to be an
Speaker 4: unimaginable pain. But that's just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I can't understand that. I understand that's.
Speaker 4: Why mental health is something that people don't want to
Speaker 4: talk about because like us, we don't get it.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: I won't ever do that there's no way I'm leaving
Speaker 4: my child against my will.
Speaker 5: Or what not again? Will yeah, yeah, so that will yeah.
Speaker 2: So that was really sad. Rest in peace Kate's bade.
Speaker 1: Speaking of mental illness, Kanye's album dropped this week. He
Speaker 1: had a listening party in Womi, right, he did, and
Speaker 1: Erica actually has the theory on why the listening party
Speaker 1: was in Womi.
Speaker 2: Not only did was he recording his album there? But
Speaker 2: what else?
Speaker 4: I feel like that's where he goes to rehab and
Speaker 4: gets like his mental health in order.
Speaker 2: Like what else is in Wyoming? Right? Like look, okay,
Speaker 2: I need to record in Waomi? Like why?
Speaker 4: I mean it's beauty's don't get me wrong. It's so
Speaker 4: beautiful there, and I mean that's part of it. Probably
Speaker 4: he probably rents like the most epic house with the
Speaker 4: most epic view of mountains and has his beats probably
Speaker 4: like penetrate the like mountains and echoes, and ship.
Speaker 2: Come takes some hell mushrooms and just strips out. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: All I know is that everybody that was like talking
Speaker 4: about how Kanye West was you know, you know, in
Speaker 4: the sunken place and all this ship, they.
Speaker 2: Went to the party like they I'm like, how are
Speaker 2: you gonna talk?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: T I he he was there, yeah, but also he
Speaker 4: that was publicity too, because then I came out with
Speaker 4: the song remember.
Speaker 2: Did you see did you hear?
Speaker 4: The Kanye West song with him and Tia are going
Speaker 4: back and forth about like, you know, white America and
Speaker 4: black lives man, not black lives matter, but just like
Speaker 4: the plight of the black man and why Kanye was
Speaker 4: like trying to lead us to love and ti I
Speaker 4: was like, Nigga, you crazy, h there's a song like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So that was a Poople City's son. And even Chance
Speaker 4: the rapper came out and was like, I can't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I can't really get behind this. I love you, but
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: But he but he went, you went mm oh wow,
Speaker 2: yeah you go. You gotta like, I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: They're still friends. At the end of the day.
Speaker 4: You can have a disagreement with someone and still support them.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I guess it's okay.
Speaker 2: I just I just can't with Kanye. Yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you think about Kanye? I meaning, I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: the weird artists, typical artists.
Speaker 3: I know so many artists that are like a little
Speaker 3: white polar and like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, all these things.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't really surprise me, but that upset me
Speaker 3: too that all these people that were making this such
Speaker 3: a big.
Speaker 2: Deal, like you know, what he said, and then they
Speaker 2: go out there so support it.
Speaker 4: Kanye needs a black woman in his life, clearly he hasn't.
Speaker 4: He just needs someone to hold him and hug him
Speaker 4: and be.
Speaker 2: Like, boy, chill out, chill stop talking. I just I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just feel like all of it was done as
Speaker 4: a publicity's done not really for the greater good of anything,
Speaker 4: but to benefit.
Speaker 2: His personal fame and.
Speaker 4: His narcissi and his bank account, you know. And that's
Speaker 4: what that family's all about. They don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: about anything except fame and money. As long as they
Speaker 4: know what's up between them, they don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: what anybody else thinks. But that's unfair because people look
Speaker 4: up to them.
Speaker 1: I think like, as a black person in America, you
Speaker 1: have to like not that you have to represent every
Speaker 1: black person if you're a celebrity, but like there's like
Speaker 1: there's an agenda for us, like for our people. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's somewhat responsibility, and like for the Kardashians,
Speaker 1: it's easy to like maybe not acknowledge certain things, but
Speaker 1: as like a black man who obviously is where you
Speaker 1: do have some type of like some type of responsibility
Speaker 1: to like at least care enough to contribute in a
Speaker 1: positive way, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, well, he thinks he is.
Speaker 4: He thinks he's contributing in a positive way. He's showing
Speaker 4: us that you have to be open and love everyone
Speaker 4: and everything.
Speaker 2: But what I think Kanye does. I feel like he's
Speaker 2: living his life as a white privileged man. He had
Speaker 2: like white privilege. It's crazy, and it's.
Speaker 4: Because he's where he came from that and he lives
Speaker 4: in this other world that's like outside of normal, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's like, but didn't he put up post to like,
Speaker 3: you know, just almost being surprised that.
Speaker 2: I was doing so well?
Speaker 3: Like can he say like, oh thank you am a
Speaker 3: tea or just something I heard that he was just
Speaker 3: like so thankful that his album is actually doing good,
Speaker 3: like meaning like he didn't expect that.
Speaker 4: Oh shut up, everyone was going after everything you did,
Speaker 4: you know people were going to listen, anyone.
Speaker 2: Was But he made it seem like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: Oh god, it's like that Beyonce video where she's gonna
Speaker 4: be a video where she's crying. I mean, it's really
Speaker 4: a dary. She's like, She's like, it's like a YouTube video.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm just so grateful.
Speaker 4: I'll just wake up every morning, I'll look at all
Speaker 4: the things that the Lord has given me.
Speaker 2: And It's true she was having a moment. But I
Speaker 2: couldn't help but laugh, and I'm like, people look funny
Speaker 2: with you. No, it was just her voice and just
Speaker 2: everything she was saying.
Speaker 4: But oh, speaking of them, did you see that Kim
Speaker 4: went to visit Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: I saw that. You're gonna see that she went to
Speaker 2: visit him in the White House.
Speaker 4: It was like a whole thing, like a photo op,
Speaker 4: like a photo of her next the photo was fake.
Speaker 1: No, this is how I'm socially like, this is why
Speaker 1: my technological advancement suck. I thought it was like a photoshop,
Speaker 1: like fake photo.
Speaker 2: But why what if they have to discuss.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a conversation between these two They're like,
Speaker 1: it's probably that I wish I would could have been
Speaker 1: a fly on the Wall to hear fucking Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and Kim having a conversation.
Speaker 4: Well, she went because she basically wanted to talk about
Speaker 4: prison reform because she uh has been funding this woman.
Speaker 4: Her name's Alice Marie Johnson. She's serving a life she's
Speaker 4: serving a life sentence in prison for a non violent
Speaker 4: drug related offense. And it's ridiculous. It's it's totally ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And Kim has been like funding her books and funding
Speaker 4: her case, and so she went to Donald Trump to
Speaker 4: talk about like prison reform and how people shouldn't be
Speaker 4: serving life sentences for drug related offenses and first time offenders.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds funny, you know, you was looking
Speaker 1: at me.
Speaker 2: Smiling so hard.
Speaker 1: Look, can you imagine Kim going to have a serious
Speaker 1: conversation about sucking like seriously, I mean the system. Can't
Speaker 1: you imagine her delivering like.
Speaker 2: She does a lot of public speaking, So maybe she's,
Speaker 2: you know, she got it together. It sounds hilarious. I
Speaker 2: wish somebody but her having any.
Speaker 1: Political stance in reality is just who It's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a giggle like she hardly.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying she's stupid, but.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, the bitch is a political genius, like
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Basically, she was trying to get Jonald Trump to pardon her.
Speaker 4: And this is I'm just reading this and says Bloomberg
Speaker 4: News reports that Kardashian's plea for Johnson's part and wet
Speaker 4: like a termite that eats corn instead of wood in
Speaker 4: one ear and out the other. Yeah, it's got a
Speaker 4: lot of backlash.
Speaker 2: I mean, people were clowning it.
Speaker 4: I mean I have to say, Okay, you know what,
Speaker 4: if you can use your platform to help someone like that,
Speaker 4: woman will be eternally grateful for that, for that opportunity
Speaker 4: because she has a platform to help her.
Speaker 2: I think that's my problem.
Speaker 1: I think this bitch and her family have a bunch
Speaker 1: of billions of dollars and a lot of mostly like
Speaker 1: social pool and.
Speaker 2: Up until now.
Speaker 1: First of all, there's a lot of people in that
Speaker 1: situation in the prison system, like a lot of black people,
Speaker 1: a lot of brown people. This is just the reality
Speaker 1: that we live in, going to yail for an extensive
Speaker 1: amount time for like minimal proof and like little nonviolent crimes.
Speaker 5: And bitch, if you just caught on and you're fighting,
Speaker 5: I mean, like not that it's one, you know, like
Speaker 5: one is better than you know, one.
Speaker 2: Hundred and ninety nine is better than two hundred.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, But like if you really cared genuinely
Speaker 1: and passionately about this topic, like this is not something
Speaker 1: that would have been new or would have been maybe
Speaker 1: specifically for this one person, it would have been like
Speaker 1: something you took a stand for, you know, like publicly
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: And this is just kind of random.
Speaker 1: It is kind of right when your man fucked up
Speaker 1: and said some stupid shit about black people, Like.
Speaker 4: You think you think, oh, you think it's like a decoy,
Speaker 4: Like yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, okay, well I'm going to the White House
Speaker 1: now because I got some shit to talk about.
Speaker 4: Let's forget about all that other the beast right.
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, I care, Oh my god. Sure.
Speaker 4: Well. Also, I think, you know, the Kardashians just are
Speaker 4: known to just be I feel like they they'd take
Speaker 4: down the black man. They have taken down every black
Speaker 4: man they do. Like they need to do a social
Speaker 4: study on it. There needs to be a documentary how
Speaker 4: to emasculate the black man, know, like how the Kardashians
Speaker 4: like systematically broke down one by one like, oh, like
Speaker 4: the name was the name Omar Lamar, Lamar Lamar, Chris,
Speaker 4: the other with what was her husband's say, Chris.
Speaker 2: The only one that got away was ray J. Ray
Speaker 2: didn't countcause she wasn't famous yet. No, he's no if anything.
Speaker 5: Like ray J got away, he was okay, he started,
Speaker 5: he was he started the whole, the whole down.
Speaker 4: Like but by the standards of how these other black
Speaker 4: men have ended up ray J one.
Speaker 2: What about Tristed is in his game, like his bet
Speaker 2: ball game not so hot right now?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's bound to fail. It's bound
Speaker 4: to fail. He's not gonna win. They're not gonna win
Speaker 4: the playoffs just because just based off we just based.
Speaker 2: Off the Did you guys hear about the Kanye push
Speaker 2: A Ship, Well.
Speaker 1: No, it's like a Kanye push it verse because Kanye,
Speaker 1: I guess produced in the album the track that was
Speaker 1: the distrack.
Speaker 2: I'm not really much into the hip hop beef for
Speaker 2: what side are you on?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm done Drake what what Drakes can do?
Speaker 2: No wrong? In my eyes, I just don't really care.
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes it's.
Speaker 4: Fun, like a little rap beef is cute, but I'm
Speaker 4: like I listened to both of them and I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, Drake got a baby mama, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 2: And Push is the one that exposed it. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know her put her name out there. I thought
Speaker 2: it was girly. I thought that was feminine. She's a
Speaker 2: porn star. It's like gossip London or Paris. She fought
Speaker 2: like a sneaker though. Yeah, people care about stupid shit.
Speaker 2: Everyone thought they were gonna be Drake's first baby mom.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, damn yeah, God damn it, Drake, God damn.
Speaker 4: Anyway, anyway, we brought Anina on because we are all mamas, yes,
Speaker 4: single moms, single moms, but Amina, like you have two
Speaker 4: beautiful daughters and you're out in LA.
Speaker 2: On your own, like no family. How do you do it?
Speaker 2: Like old family?
Speaker 3: I always people always ask me how I do it,
Speaker 3: and it's really no answer, like I don't, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know you yes, exactly, When you have to you
Speaker 2: just do.
Speaker 3: And it's like that with most things in life, like
Speaker 3: when you have to do something, you just do. But
Speaker 3: it was my choice to move away because if I
Speaker 3: would have stayed in New York, I would have had
Speaker 3: more help.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: But I just still think it was the best decision
Speaker 3: to go all the way to California by myself, because
Speaker 3: for me, it was you know, it just made me.
Speaker 3: It just healed me, and that's what I needed to
Speaker 3: be a good mom. So yeah, it's hard and I
Speaker 3: go crazy sometimes.
Speaker 2: That's why I wrote a whole album about it. Talks
Speaker 2: about your album.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't write all the songs about my kids,
Speaker 3: but it's just inspired by them. Like most of the songs,
Speaker 3: the album is called Mother and the two first singles
Speaker 3: that I put out Loved my Life was the first.
Speaker 3: One talks just exactly about the struggles of what I
Speaker 3: go through every day just being by myself with them
Speaker 3: and not having you know, full time nanny or you
Speaker 3: know help in general, no family here, so I can't
Speaker 3: just like you know, drop off.
Speaker 2: My daughters with my mom. Ever.
Speaker 3: So yeah, whenever I want to do things for me,
Speaker 3: I have to like really arrange it.
Speaker 2: It takes, you know, planning.
Speaker 3: I have to really like schedule my time for to
Speaker 3: be able to still do my music and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I recorded this album entirely at home alone, by myself.
Speaker 2: I didn't even go to the studio like you recorded
Speaker 2: it like not even the engineer.
Speaker 3: But I made sure that I have, you know, the
Speaker 3: proper equipment and everything to make it really sound really good.
Speaker 3: So I made sure that I invest than that, and
Speaker 3: then I just worked whenever they would sleep, whenever I
Speaker 3: had the energy because a lot of days I planned
Speaker 3: to record and then I didn't get to it because
Speaker 3: I fell asleep with them, you know, things like that.
Speaker 3: So it took me really a year to finish this album.
Speaker 3: But I did it, and it's out. Ye yes, oh
Speaker 3: my god, it's great.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: It makes me feel powerful and strong and independent and
Speaker 3: all these good things.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like I said, I really
Speaker 2: go through it. Some days I'm like, damn, I just
Speaker 2: need a break. What do you like? Yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you what is your like? What do you do when
Speaker 2: you feel that way?
Speaker 3: But you know, the good thing, the thing is that
Speaker 3: I know what gives me, what fuels me. So I
Speaker 3: make sure that I do my exercising, which is on
Speaker 3: irregular like at least every other day I work out.
Speaker 2: I say it on the ground, I spend a lot
Speaker 2: of money on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, girl, because I'm abs girl, I'll be saying on
Speaker 4: your Instagram.
Speaker 2: Really even not even on physical. It's more like mental
Speaker 2: makes me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just makes me happier and just feel good
Speaker 3: and feel energized and feel ready to like be there
Speaker 3: for my kids and do fun stuff with them when
Speaker 3: I work out, So I make sure I put m
Speaker 3: time aside for that, and even if I you know,
Speaker 3: I bring them to the Venom with me almost every
Speaker 3: time I go.
Speaker 2: And then I also do my workouts with them outdoors.
Speaker 3: Like in our little yeah, hiking and we go for walks,
Speaker 3: and when I take them to the park, I do
Speaker 3: my sit ups there or whatever, my yoga stuff.
Speaker 2: So I always kind of.
Speaker 3: Some way, somehow make it happen to where I get
Speaker 3: my you know, do my thing as well.
Speaker 2: And then I also, you know, I need like a a.
Speaker 3: A night, like at least one night a week where
Speaker 3: I I go out, so I get a sitter and
Speaker 3: I go out and whatever, if.
Speaker 2: I just go for some wine or something, it's necessary,
Speaker 2: like I need to do that.
Speaker 3: So I normally say it's like some weeks it's warm
Speaker 3: than one night, but I do need like a night
Speaker 3: a week, whereas like you.
Speaker 4: House to girl that you have to I think both
Speaker 4: of those things are so important. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: working out I kind of relate to that. I didn't
Speaker 4: start working out so much later until when I had
Speaker 4: I mean, I've always worked out, but then of course
Speaker 4: I got lazy. But then once I probably like a
Speaker 4: year into having Iri, like I was really like still
Speaker 4: struggling with like postpartum and just feeling really sad, and
Speaker 4: I started working out, and slowly I started like climbing
Speaker 4: out of that hole and it really helped, seriously, Like
Speaker 4: it's not just it's not just for your vanity, it's
Speaker 4: for your like your mental health for sure.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah. And then yeah, go in out girl,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah one a week. Yes, it's necessary loose and yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just can't do too much of it no more because
Speaker 3: I know at seven am.
Speaker 2: I gotta be a no matter what.
Speaker 3: So I even when I do go, like I don't
Speaker 3: stay out all night. I'm like, do you ever think.
Speaker 4: Like, do you ever think you'd move back to New
Speaker 4: York or you'd move back to because you're originally from Germany.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think that I'm gonna move back to Germany.
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe when I'm older, not like anytime soon.
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine living there, like it's almost been
Speaker 2: half my life now that old when you moved from Germany.
Speaker 3: Nineteen so yeah, now it's been.
Speaker 2: Sixteen years that have been Oh wow.
Speaker 3: So yeah, nineteen years home growing up. I mean it's
Speaker 3: a big part. But yeah, I don't can't imagine living there.
Speaker 3: I would move back to New York, but not now.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have the desire to be there, even though
Speaker 3: I love the city, always gonna love it, but I'm
Speaker 3: happy here right now.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and you have I mean I love I
Speaker 4: lived in New York too, not as long as you,
Speaker 4: but I love New York. But something about space, Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's none of it there and you have to now
Speaker 4: with the babies.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely happier here for now, but I do sometimes
Speaker 3: miss it. But I miss more than things that I
Speaker 3: used to do as a not a mom, like being
Speaker 3: you know without kids, right right, Yeah, it's been like
Speaker 3: fifteen years there, so I'm like I did I did.
Speaker 2: So much there already.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, how like as far as like raising them on
Speaker 4: your own, like do when you imagine having kids? How
Speaker 4: did you imagine having them? Like where did you grow
Speaker 4: up with your both of your parents married?
Speaker 2: Well, no.
Speaker 3: They my parents were never married, but we were a family,
Speaker 3: and then they separated when it was eight, which was
Speaker 3: it was really bad and horrible, but at the same
Speaker 3: time and we, you know, me and my sisters, we
Speaker 3: it was good to just see our mom's strength and
Speaker 3: we trusted in her and we knew that we didn't
Speaker 3: really understand at the time what was happening, but we
Speaker 3: just knew that it's better if we just with mom.
Speaker 3: And you know, Dad is not here for a while,
Speaker 3: and then he was even out of our lives for
Speaker 3: like a few years and then came back and it
Speaker 3: you know now.
Speaker 2: Which is great. They're friends.
Speaker 3: They're very close and every you know, Holidays and Christmas,
Speaker 3: we all together as a family. Even they never got
Speaker 3: back together, but everyone gets along now and like it
Speaker 3: just I mean, for me, I didn't imagine being.
Speaker 2: By myself a two girls. Did you imagine how to kids?
Speaker 2: Did you always want? Yeah? I always want to kids.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because I always wanted two girls.
Speaker 3: Oh. I always used to like sometimes jokingly lie the
Speaker 3: guys like that I met, like, oh I have two
Speaker 3: daughters and just to see their reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I actually did. It's just crazy. And
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't imagine being by myself. I don't
Speaker 3: wasn't you know ideally what I want it. But now
Speaker 3: that it is that way, I'm making the best of it.
Speaker 2: And how's your relationship with their dad? Good? It's better
Speaker 2: now that we not together, and we get along better.
Speaker 2: We barely fight ever, but we also.
Speaker 3: Don't really talk as much, and we definitely don't talk
Speaker 3: about like personal things, right you know what he does,
Speaker 3: Like I don't care, and he seems to not care
Speaker 3: anymore with me, So it's really about the kids and like,
Speaker 3: but it's this appreciation that we have for each other,
Speaker 3: Like he.
Speaker 2: Like appreciate so highly of.
Speaker 3: Me, and he still thinks, like I'm so just amazing
Speaker 3: and too good for him and all these things.
Speaker 2: Is very like, yeah, appreciative. Oh yeah, you're raising his
Speaker 2: two girls.
Speaker 3: That I'm the mom of his two daughters, and that
Speaker 3: I'm doing so well with them. Yeah, although I do
Speaker 3: sometimes think he needs he should be doing more, but
Speaker 3: it's you know, I'm I'm I'm like, I don't like
Speaker 3: asking people for anything, but he's the dad of my kids,
Speaker 3: so I should be able to ask him for stuff.
Speaker 3: But then I'm like always like, oh I got this, Like,
Speaker 3: no matter what, I always like I don't want to
Speaker 3: depend on nobody. Know.
Speaker 2: I always been that way, So even though he is their.
Speaker 3: Dad, I always feel that, like I don't need you
Speaker 3: for nothing?
Speaker 4: Is that because your mom was like that?
Speaker 2: Like being that way it just makes me feel like
Speaker 2: I don't need nobody in my life for nothing. I
Speaker 2: feel it. I feel like I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 1: Mom's point of view, but like when you acknowledge that
Speaker 1: you know, then you can kind of let go and release,
Speaker 1: like because you don't want to have expect there's obviously mention,
Speaker 1: have s, responsibilities, fathers, absolutely, but when you have expectations
Speaker 1: and they don't aren't met, that disappointment sometimes is like
Speaker 1: it's so disappointing that it makes you release all of that,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not asking you for shit, even because these
Speaker 1: are things that you should be doing automatically, and if
Speaker 1: you don't giving up that ass because it's common sense, well,
Speaker 1: I always need to be on your levels, guys.
Speaker 2: I begin at the point like what the fuck are
Speaker 2: you serious?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 1: There's never a time when you're not disappointed when someone
Speaker 1: does something that's not expected or dead ass wrong, especially
Speaker 1: for the mom, because we do fucking everything, every fucking
Speaker 1: thing that's be clear. And it's like the fact that
Speaker 1: even like at least he knows, like you're doing everything,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you all the praise, like at
Speaker 1: least that's enough, Like all right, at least you know,
Speaker 1: but like you know, like there's people who don't do
Speaker 1: it and still talk shit.
Speaker 3: I just know that he's somebody he like when I
Speaker 3: need something, it's like almost he never comes used to
Speaker 3: come through, and it's still that way.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to get disappointed anymore, so I
Speaker 2: don't ask. It depends. I don't you know, even do that.
Speaker 3: I just ask him because I got to go to
Speaker 3: Dallas in like two weeks for like three days, and
Speaker 3: I ask him, can you come just because I don't
Speaker 3: have anyone for three days for the kids, and he
Speaker 3: he can't give me an answer. So I'm already in
Speaker 3: my mind's.
Speaker 2: Preparent right, let me figure it out.
Speaker 3: So I got to figure it out by myself and whatever.
Speaker 3: I can't get mad because it's just gonna affect me
Speaker 3: and my mood.
Speaker 5: And then right your whole because you ask someone that
Speaker 5: you know that she'd be able to say yes, but
Speaker 5: they can't.
Speaker 2: But it's like, why am I even involving myself and
Speaker 2: your bs because I know you? But I know you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I have that today, Like I think I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's like a black woman thing like because we're independent,
Speaker 1: but like I was reading some text messages my baby
Speaker 1: daddy sent me and Eric andos, like this is a regular,
Speaker 1: like disrespectful thirty five text message every weekend type of thing,
Speaker 1: like you're a bad mom, you're this, You're oh, you're
Speaker 1: a slack yeah, Like it's just like you need to
Speaker 1: grow up. But I'm like, oh my god, Like I
Speaker 1: want sometimes I want to like talk to my friends
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, I know they're probably stick of
Speaker 1: hearing this shit because this is literally my life every weekend,
Speaker 1: every week, once a week and once a month. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, like I made this decision,
Speaker 1: I made my bed and now I have to lay
Speaker 1: in it forever. And I'm like, you know, I take
Speaker 1: responsibility for it, you know. But then I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: Like it still sucks. That's I'm still hurt. Like I'm
Speaker 1: still hurting. I'm still tense, as fuck. I could feel
Speaker 1: my body because I'm not like releasing shit. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like the struggle is real.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think, I mean, I think I've told
Speaker 4: you this in the past. Is like all you can
Speaker 4: do is change your reaction to what he says, because
Speaker 4: he's not.
Speaker 2: Going to change, and all you can do is change your.
Speaker 5: Reaction to how to whatever he That goes back to
Speaker 5: what Amina said, like not being disappointed, not being mad.
Speaker 2: I guess I need to take my own fucking advice, which.
Speaker 1: Is usually how it goes, which brings us to our
Speaker 1: next question or for you a mina, because I have
Speaker 1: as single moms, we all can relate to this because
Speaker 1: I know this is a big thing for me. When
Speaker 1: is the right time to know like, Okay, I've tried
Speaker 1: all I can try, and I'm walking away and actually
Speaker 1: walking away and actually being like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is not healthy for me because obviously, as women were
Speaker 1: so brainwashed to be like.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna have a husband, you're gonna have kids.
Speaker 2: You don't have a big bucket fence and have a
Speaker 2: marriage and.
Speaker 1: Be perfect, and anything that doesn't resemble that, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm disappointed.
Speaker 4: Or this time it'll be different. This time is I
Speaker 4: mean the story of my relationships. Time is different. He
Speaker 4: learned his lesson, He told me, he promised me, He cried,
Speaker 4: he egged, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I gaveed him out. He learned, you know, like I
Speaker 2: went and cheated. He knows, you know, like you think
Speaker 2: all these things right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think for everyone is different because everyone
Speaker 3: has the point and and when that point comes, you.
Speaker 2: Just know, like you just know. And for me, it
Speaker 2: was when I think like it, because I had many
Speaker 2: times where I'm like, Okay, this is enough. Now I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do this no more, you know, and
Speaker 2: then I ended up sing.
Speaker 3: But the one moment that stood out was when I
Speaker 3: had one of my breakdowns where I was crying like
Speaker 3: on the floor and I had my youngest she was
Speaker 3: born already.
Speaker 2: I was I think I was pregnant.
Speaker 3: With wrong and I just like looked up and then
Speaker 3: Corey and my daughter was like right in front of
Speaker 3: me with his face like because I was crying so hard,
Speaker 3: and she was just looking at me with this just
Speaker 3: like she didn't understand.
Speaker 2: And that was like when I looked at her and
Speaker 2: saw that. Hmm, I was like, she can't. I can't.
Speaker 3: However, I have her experience and we need this way again.
Speaker 3: And that's when I made the final decision to like
Speaker 3: move out. That night, I told.
Speaker 2: Peter, oh, I'm moving out, and I was actually serious
Speaker 2: this time. That was the and he of course did
Speaker 2: not take me serious because I had said it before.
Speaker 2: By this time, this was the day I was serious.
Speaker 3: And then I started looking for apartments and that was
Speaker 3: it pretty much. And I'm the one like because they
Speaker 3: say sometimes like the emotional connection and physical connections are
Speaker 3: two different things. For me, definitely they were because I
Speaker 3: was emotionally detaching the way before the physical For.
Speaker 1: Women, I think we can we detached me, totached me,
Speaker 1: totached me to toach you detachment, we're still like hopeful.
Speaker 2: And then there's that one after.
Speaker 3: I had moved to Cali. Like emotionally I was like
Speaker 3: even though I was in pain, but I was like
Speaker 3: detached but physically still, you know, whenever I would.
Speaker 1: See him, You're right, It's so funny because it's like
Speaker 1: the opposite for me, I detach physically first.
Speaker 4: First, I like my because it's almost like subconscious, my
Speaker 4: subconscious literally won't let me want like physically, I literally
Speaker 4: am like the desert down then, and I'm Sometimes I'd
Speaker 4: be like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 2: We love each other. No, I swear I'm happy.
Speaker 4: I swear like we had a great day to day.
Speaker 4: Why don't I want to fuck you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what don't want to say, because I'm detached.
Speaker 2: I'm not happy, you know. And if you ask my
Speaker 2: baby daddy, he would.
Speaker 4: I mean, his biggest complaint our relationship was our sex life,
Speaker 4: because we didn't I didn't want to have.
Speaker 2: It, and for the longest time I didn't know.
Speaker 4: Well, I knew there were certain things, reasons why, but
Speaker 4: the main thing that I wasn't acknowledging was that I, like,
Speaker 4: I just I was already stepping away and mentally but
Speaker 4: I didn't really realize it, and my body was trying.
Speaker 2: To tell me.
Speaker 4: Whereas some people like they're mentally detaching on you and
Speaker 4: then physically you see them and you still want them.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely for a while. It took like on
Speaker 4: like more than a year.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah. I think that's the number one thing for
Speaker 2: women too, like the biggest advice.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everybody has their own time frame that
Speaker 1: like I knew a long time ago, like I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew when shit was over, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's like you keep you keep going to the motion,
Speaker 1: to keep going to the motion, to keep going to
Speaker 1: the motions, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Bitch, you just worted five more years going to the oceans.
Speaker 1: And it's like you knew, and that this exact things
Speaker 1: I deal with, like the disrespect and the psychotists, like
Speaker 1: like text messages forty five text messages and five minutes
Speaker 1: and shit like these are.
Speaker 2: Things that pre existed.
Speaker 1: So it's like everything, like if I'm completely honest with myself,
Speaker 1: because I like to be like take responsibility for self
Speaker 1: and my own predicaments, Like I knew.
Speaker 2: I knew it was. I knew, You're not.
Speaker 1: Like I can't see myself being with someone who treats
Speaker 1: me like this.
Speaker 2: I was just like in this.
Speaker 1: Like battered woman place where like I thought, like Jesus,
Speaker 1: when I was gonna come down and like annoy him,
Speaker 1: he was gonna be a man suddenly, you know, and
Speaker 1: I was gonna have this happy family and that doesn't happen, right,
Speaker 1: I know that's the same with me.
Speaker 2: I think for me.
Speaker 4: Obviously, like my defining moment was you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: he he had cheated on.
Speaker 2: Me multiple times, but I think.
Speaker 4: The last time was pretty tragic, you know. I felt
Speaker 4: like so I felt like the last time was like
Speaker 4: not only had I supported him through so many like
Speaker 4: life altering situations like almost going to jail for so long,
Speaker 4: like almost go about to go to jail for a
Speaker 4: crime you didn't commit, and you about to be locked
Speaker 4: away for like ten years in a foreign country. And
Speaker 4: before that, like you almost got shot at and killed
Speaker 4: in New York at a show, and then like before that,
Speaker 4: like you were another fucked up situation that should have
Speaker 4: been like a wake up call for you, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And I was trying to show him that
Speaker 4: I was like this ride or die, you know, even
Speaker 4: through the cheating and all of that, and you know,
Speaker 4: he was always so apologetic, and you know, he's a
Speaker 4: really great apologizer. He's that is not something he's bad at.
Speaker 4: You know, some men don't even like don't apologize.
Speaker 3: Would it look like I'm curious because doesn't apologize wasn't
Speaker 3: a good one. His apology would be like just like
Speaker 3: some like reaction. Just he would never say.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm wrong. Oh no, oh no, my my, my,
Speaker 2: my might be da he is the king of apologies.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like, I'm so sorry. So I don't know
Speaker 2: what the fuck is wrong with me. I'm Sexcity's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what's happy.
Speaker 4: I just woke up and my dick was in her
Speaker 4: Like not like that exactly those words, but essentially that's
Speaker 4: what I heard. I just I felt like, Wow, I've
Speaker 4: done everything that I can possibly do in this situation.
Speaker 2: It is not me.
Speaker 4: Because for a while I was like, well, maybe I'm
Speaker 4: just letting myself. I've let myself go with pregnancy, Like
Speaker 4: I I've gained this weight. I haven't really been trying
Speaker 4: to like work out and get it off. I don't
Speaker 4: look like myself. I'm not fun anymore. I don't I
Speaker 4: don't want to go out. I just want to chill
Speaker 4: at home with my baby because I'm tired. Like there's
Speaker 4: all these other hot bitches on Instagram he's looking at
Speaker 4: and tworking videos he's liking, and I just kept comparing
Speaker 4: myself and being like, damn, I'm not fun.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get why.
Speaker 4: Maybe I need I need to work on this so
Speaker 4: that I'm a better partner for him.
Speaker 2: But then even.
Speaker 4: After I did all those things, and I like, because
Speaker 4: you're not fun because you're not happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what it is, like, Oh, you're a
Speaker 1: bitch all the time because you're unhappy and you're living
Speaker 1: with someone that doesn't make you happy.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't feed your soul.
Speaker 4: And he wasn't feeding me, and I wasn't learning anything anymore,
Speaker 4: and it just we weren't teaching each other anymore.
Speaker 2: It's it doesn't all go one way.
Speaker 4: I take responsibility for the things that I did too,
Speaker 4: but essentially we like, like we had our episode about
Speaker 4: monogamy and if it's natural or not, we agree to
Speaker 4: be in a monogamous relationship, and he wasn't following the deal,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Like this is not what we agree to.
Speaker 4: And then the disrespect of like the girls coming out,
Speaker 4: and then just like yeah, then the text messages that
Speaker 4: she that he was sending her and she was sending
Speaker 4: them to me and me saying the things that he
Speaker 4: was saying to her to get the pussy. I was
Speaker 4: just like wow, Wow, Like you have no respect for me.
Speaker 4: I always thought like okay, even though he cheated on me,
Speaker 4: I know there's some sort of respect there, and then
Speaker 4: I was like, there is no respect. There's literally no
Speaker 4: respect if you can tell this girl this and that
Speaker 4: and this.
Speaker 2: And I get that, I get that some I know that.
Speaker 4: I know that men say things to get what they
Speaker 4: want sexually, and I.
Speaker 2: Know that's probably what that was.
Speaker 4: But just the fact that you could lie on me,
Speaker 4: on our family like I couldn't, it was it drew
Speaker 4: the line for me. I was like, I can't do
Speaker 4: this anymore. And I was about to marry. I was
Speaker 4: planning my wedding, you know, so I have it was
Speaker 4: like too much on this. My family was about to
Speaker 4: pay for this expensive ass wedding, Like you're literally gonna
Speaker 4: let my family pay for this wedding and you're doing this,
Speaker 4: and just it was just so much. But I knew
Speaker 4: that that was that defining moment because even since that moment,
Speaker 4: I have never went back. Like, you know, we work
Speaker 4: on our relationship, we try to be cool, but sexually
Speaker 4: definitely not and emotionally I can't.
Speaker 2: I just can't. You're pride take my pride will allow it.
Speaker 4: And then also now hanging out with him, he's still
Speaker 4: he's still the same and I've progressed. I feel like
Speaker 4: I've flipped the pages, like ten pages and he's still
Speaker 4: on chapter one.
Speaker 2: That's a huge lesson though, because.
Speaker 1: You you'd like to think that you're like you're staying
Speaker 1: in your own lane, and you have to focus on
Speaker 1: yourself because sometimes in relationships we become obsessed with other person.
Speaker 1: They're not doing what they're supposed to do and they're
Speaker 1: not doing that. And there were times like Jamella, focused
Speaker 1: the fuck on yourself. But then when you realize, like
Speaker 1: as soon as I really left my baby's daddy alone,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm thriving. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm getting blessings, Like I'm living because I'm happy and
Speaker 1: I'm attracting good shit.
Speaker 2: But like, you have to be able to, like to.
Speaker 1: Break away from those toxic people in order to get
Speaker 1: to that place, and you have to be willing to
Speaker 1: like completely sever.
Speaker 2: All relationship, you know, and that shit doesn't hard. It's scary.
Speaker 2: It's so scary. You don't know the unknown. Like I
Speaker 2: knew what my future looked like.
Speaker 4: I was gonna be married, we were gonna have another kid,
Speaker 4: I was gonna be you know, you know, I was gonna.
Speaker 2: Have try to work on my career, but really I
Speaker 2: love focusing on his own because I don't like to
Speaker 2: deal with my own shit.
Speaker 5: So I was gonna be like the trophy the trophy
Speaker 5: wife and whatever.
Speaker 1: But how do you guys think because both of you
Speaker 1: kind of have like public situations because you know, like
Speaker 1: me and R you did this show and I know
Speaker 1: that probably got like so much backlash, and you do
Speaker 1: know your baby daddy kind of like gota like you know,
Speaker 1: a following an audience. Do you think that that, like
Speaker 1: knowing that other people knew your situations affected your like
Speaker 1: your ability to like go go away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, I think initially a little bit because
Speaker 4: when me our relationship was really great for a long time.
Speaker 2: We don't get it twisted.
Speaker 4: We did have a genuine I still love him, We
Speaker 4: have a genuine love for each other.
Speaker 2: We had a very genuine relationship. People looked up to
Speaker 2: our relationship.
Speaker 4: People were always saying that.
Speaker 2: You sing that song Girlron.
Speaker 4: People looked up to our relationship, Like even my friends
Speaker 4: would tell me, like, damn, you and Freddie like have
Speaker 4: such a great relationship, and we really did at the time.
Speaker 4: Even when they said it, I'd be like yeah, we do,
Speaker 4: thank you and so. But then when it went bad
Speaker 4: and people didn't see that side of it, I was like,
Speaker 4: well and I was holding on to like what it
Speaker 4: was or what people thought it was.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I felt in.
Speaker 4: A way not like jay Z and beyond right, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like not like oh shit, having
Speaker 4: a split this empire.
Speaker 2: You know, but I did.
Speaker 4: I think I was holding on to like what I
Speaker 4: like how our relationship looked to people.
Speaker 2: And I mean even like social media, like if you
Speaker 2: have there's like low key you started people. You feel
Speaker 2: like people have expectations of these periods. Well almosto. People
Speaker 2: think on social media they know you and your relationship.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know get that more than anyone.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that I I mean, I
Speaker 2: didn't that affect me.
Speaker 3: Is more like I'm the type of person when people
Speaker 3: say something to me, I like, do the opposite.
Speaker 2: I don't listen to none of that. I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know nothing.
Speaker 3: They can't make me do something because everyone's had been
Speaker 3: telling me for years, right that I needed to let
Speaker 3: go and leave, and I literally did it on my
Speaker 3: own terms. And I think that if we wouldn't have
Speaker 3: been on the show, it would have been the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what I will say, I mean it.
Speaker 2: Whatever we get, we're gonna take a quick break dis
Speaker 2: one moment. Please sorry about that. We're back. I was
Speaker 2: gonna say to mean it is.
Speaker 1: What I will say is, despite like you having such
Speaker 1: a public relation relationship situation, I respect that, like no
Speaker 1: matter like what people were saying, because people are gonna
Speaker 1: have their opinion, especially for people like on social media.
Speaker 1: And you did what the fuck you wanted to do,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure because I know you're getting so much
Speaker 1: shit and people judge and don't know you and like
Speaker 1: in things they know.
Speaker 2: But despite all that, you're.
Speaker 3: Like I'm wanted to buy, you know, And by being honest,
Speaker 3: I got so much like just you know, judging and
Speaker 3: like people just with the negative stuff you know, coming
Speaker 3: at me, just because I was honest, for instance, about
Speaker 3: the fact that I was still physically involved with them
Speaker 3: after we separated. That made me just look so bad,
Speaker 3: but I didn't care.
Speaker 4: It was how many people that were talking about you
Speaker 4: are doing that currently.
Speaker 2: Yeah I know I'm thinking in my head like you're
Speaker 2: probably doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, We're human, like, you know, sometimes we want what
Speaker 5: we want, but I couldn't, you know, lie like so
Speaker 5: many other women right.
Speaker 2: And said, oh that's done. You know that's over with.
Speaker 2: The people would have liked me more.
Speaker 4: But but you know, here to be so and women
Speaker 4: just always want I mean, unfortunately, women are the worst.
Speaker 2: We are the worst.
Speaker 4: We don't support each other. We want to tear each
Speaker 4: other down. We want to see each other lose, and
Speaker 4: we want to pick sides. And I'm sure in your situation,
Speaker 4: you know they wanted to pick sides. It was either
Speaker 4: you or the other, or his other the mother of
Speaker 4: his child, and they wanted to like have this divide
Speaker 4: between you two and make it a competition, or who's.
Speaker 2: Smarter than the other one. Oh, she respects herself more
Speaker 2: than this. Why would you do this?
Speaker 1: To do that? It's like, I don't know, but now
Speaker 1: I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: They I don't know if she happens. This is not
Speaker 2: how I basically wrote out the blueprint. But now it's happening,
Speaker 2: and this is my life. Fuck you and fuck you.
Speaker 4: It's not as simple as one, two three. Not everything
Speaker 4: is black and white. There's a lot of gray areas,
Speaker 4: especially when you have children, especially when you know you're
Speaker 4: confused and you know, and people aren't being honest and
Speaker 4: people are lying and you want to believe what they're saying,
Speaker 4: and it's just.
Speaker 2: It's so much, you know.
Speaker 4: And yeah, just like Jamila said, like I can only imagine,
Speaker 4: you know, do you just turn off your comments or did.
Speaker 2: You just like not read them? Like how did I
Speaker 2: do that? Looking at it?
Speaker 3: And then I mean at the time where the comments
Speaker 3: were really bad, I wasn't able to turn them off
Speaker 3: because I didn't have my verification yet. But then when
Speaker 3: I got that, sometimes I would turn it off, but
Speaker 3: I really kind.
Speaker 2: Of didn't even want to do that. I just stopped
Speaker 2: looking because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then but I also am a really really
Speaker 3: great blocker, so we're whatever.
Speaker 2: I had people just being negative, I would block them.
Speaker 2: So I blocked probably like I don't know if that
Speaker 2: wasn't don't you the book I do. I had a book,
Speaker 2: and that was after I moved out here.
Speaker 3: I wrote it was almost my therapy, literally because at
Speaker 3: the time when I first moved to Cali, that's when
Speaker 3: I had I had already started writing the book, but
Speaker 3: it was not in the plans to actually make it
Speaker 3: a book, So I was just writing like a journal style.
Speaker 2: And then when I moved here, I started.
Speaker 3: Seeing a therapist because of my sadness, and I felt like,
Speaker 3: I just need to talk to somebody.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to talk to any of my
Speaker 2: friends because they.
Speaker 3: Told me so many times and that they all they
Speaker 3: do is tell me what I should do, but they're
Speaker 3: not there to help me through it. Every day every morning,
Speaker 3: I'm alone. So I wanted to talk to someone outside.
Speaker 3: So I went to see a therapist for like five
Speaker 3: months every week.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: Expensive, but it was it helps me, but I think
Speaker 3: it was worth it because it helped me.
Speaker 2: Just look at things.
Speaker 3: Differently and just feel just feel better about where I
Speaker 3: was at in my life. And that's also at the
Speaker 3: same time where I wrote the book, and the therapists
Speaker 3: actually encouraged me to, you know, keep writing.
Speaker 2: And because I was.
Speaker 3: Literally too depressed to write music because that's normally what
Speaker 3: I would turn to my music and make songs, and
Speaker 3: I was too depressed to even like when I looked
Speaker 3: at my piano, I was like almost like sad cause
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I f felt like nothing was coming, so
Speaker 3: I wasn't inspired. So I still needed to write and
Speaker 3: like let it out. So the book happened the other
Speaker 3: Woman mm, and people thought, oh you they other woman,
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't the title wasn't actually towards me. It
Speaker 3: was just a general title, the other woman, because just
Speaker 3: not even in only this relationship, but so many relations
Speaker 3: all the all the real relationships I had, which is
Speaker 3: like f F four in my life, I was dealing
Speaker 3: with another woman some way.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I didn't message up sound I mean, you
Speaker 4: were the other right, I mean, there's another woman a right?
Speaker 3: The other woman is always when I was with somebody,
Speaker 3: it was always either like EGS or someone new they
Speaker 3: cheated with, or and then at times, you know, I've
Speaker 3: I've been the other woman too to somebody that was
Speaker 3: in the relationship, and so it just made sense to
Speaker 3: name it that.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like I was talking just about me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a book. I'm happy I did it. I'm
Speaker 2: proud of it.
Speaker 3: Because it's just really a real, you know, a real
Speaker 3: kind of a real story of who I am, who
Speaker 3: I really am, And I think that people that works
Speaker 3: to show they didn't get to see that the real me.
Speaker 2: When you read the book, you really understand.
Speaker 3: And I had a lot of feedback where women were like,
Speaker 3: oh no, it makes more sense and I understand you
Speaker 3: more and that was good to hear.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I feel like it.
Speaker 4: I con mention you for doing that because some women,
Speaker 4: I mean some celebrity women out there, they actually was.
Speaker 4: I was just happened to be on the internet, on
Speaker 4: the interweb on Instagram and I follow Amber Rose and
Speaker 4: she was posting about how like the Shade Room ruins
Speaker 4: lives and oh yeah, how you know you have to
Speaker 4: be a really strong person in order to deal with
Speaker 4: all the scrutiny that you get. We didn't like, she
Speaker 4: didn't ask for this life, and you know, the Instagram
Speaker 4: is like a place of trolling, and which in her defense,
Speaker 4: like in her it totally is. But then sometimes I
Speaker 4: feel like some people instigated though, whereas I don't feel
Speaker 4: like you like you don't ever you've ever instigated. You
Speaker 4: just were trying to live your life life.
Speaker 2: Happened to be on a show during that period of time.
Speaker 3: Yea, And literally before like when I decided to do
Speaker 3: the show, I didn't. That was one thing that I
Speaker 3: didn't really think about you did it, and not at all.
Speaker 3: I only thought about the positive that can come from this.
Speaker 3: I didn't think about any of the activity you were
Speaker 3: music because I never had people being so negative and
Speaker 3: not like me in my life before I was on TV.
Speaker 3: So then when it happened, it was really hard. At
Speaker 3: first it was overwhelming, but you know now I'm actually
Speaker 3: glad for the experience because it just made me.
Speaker 2: Stronger, stronger. Have you ever had people like, of course
Speaker 2: people get crazy.
Speaker 4: In your comments, but have you ever had someone in
Speaker 4: real life come like come at you, or like say
Speaker 4: something to you in the streets, or like been like.
Speaker 3: Just no, it's crazy because there was so much hate online.
Speaker 2: That's not crazy.
Speaker 3: Every time when people run into me that know me,
Speaker 3: it's always been love. Like there was maybe one or
Speaker 3: two times when I was with Peter, like at the
Speaker 3: mall or something, and then the girl would be disappointed
Speaker 3: that it was me in that tower. I don't want
Speaker 3: to pat you with her, I would yeah, how about
Speaker 3: no that happened.
Speaker 4: But other than that, no, no real hate, And that
Speaker 4: just shows you like you can't, you really cannot. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's hard not to take everything personally, but you are
Speaker 4: going to take personally.
Speaker 2: But these people are just we bore gangsters literally bored
Speaker 2: with their lives.
Speaker 4: They're never going to say anything to you in the streets, right,
Speaker 4: That's not It's just crazy the world we live in
Speaker 4: where it's just people just are so quick to judge
Speaker 4: you based on a relationship they think they know you.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I I am so like, don't have
Speaker 4: anywhere near the amount of like.
Speaker 2: Scrutiny that you've had, but I've had people. I just
Speaker 2: get annoyed when people just are in my dms like.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's none of my business, but you know, just
Speaker 4: wondering what.
Speaker 2: Happened with you And.
Speaker 4: If you preface a conversation with it's none of your
Speaker 4: goddamn business, right, did they just get so invested in
Speaker 4: your relationship?
Speaker 2: And it's crazy even with like.
Speaker 1: What you said about like not discussing ship with your friends,
Speaker 1: Like first of all, it's what First of all, I'll say,
Speaker 1: it's I don't want like it's one thing to talk
Speaker 1: about front like with my friends who have kids who
Speaker 1: actually parents ach because it's like you'll never understand how
Speaker 1: my baby's daddy he's dumb. I know, he's a dickhead,
Speaker 1: I know, but he's my baby's daddy. So it's like
Speaker 1: I can't. I want to scratch him off and like
Speaker 1: throw him out the back window and keep going.
Speaker 2: But like I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 1: Keep going back to Starckle pick his ass up because
Speaker 1: he's always going to be there.
Speaker 2: So like to talk to someone that's non biased.
Speaker 1: I think that's like that was It's important, Like that
Speaker 1: therapy is important because that disappointment just because like our
Speaker 1: our expectations of marriage and family are.
Speaker 2: So like deep rooted in us.
Speaker 1: To cope with that as mothers, that that we were
Speaker 1: letting go of that possibility or whatever is a.
Speaker 2: Big It's a big thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even sometimes I feel like this is gonna sound bad,
Speaker 1: but sometimes like even my like it's one thing like moms.
Speaker 2: But sometimes like my friends aren't black. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't think you get it.
Speaker 1: I want to like make it like keep in mind
Speaker 1: all my friends are not like most of my friends
Speaker 1: are not black. I got like three I'm like, you
Speaker 1: don't get it because you're not black.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't have to disagree with
Speaker 2: they get so offended.
Speaker 1: But there's some things like culturally it's just different. That's
Speaker 1: my baby's daddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want to fall into that trap. But
Speaker 4: I mean I think I think that. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: everybody's everybody's baby daddy is a man, and and they do.
Speaker 4: She ain'tlide, they don't show up, they're inconsistent, you know,
Speaker 4: all those things. Not every baby daddy. I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: sure there's so many that are great.
Speaker 2: Shout out to any of the good ones listening. You
Speaker 2: love he's laden to the d ms. If you single,
Speaker 2: we like single daddy. Have you seen that guy that
Speaker 2: keeps sliding in our dms and will not stop? Which one?
Speaker 2: There's some young kid? Why him? I always say, okay,
Speaker 2: take care of this. Oh how's your dating situations? Have
Speaker 2: you been dating? How's that? Well?
Speaker 3: I I want to, but I don't want to force it.
Speaker 3: So it's like I haven't I just haven't met anyone
Speaker 3: that I really like, like enough to like. So I
Speaker 3: want that to happen. But then at the same time,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be looking for it, so I'm
Speaker 3: just chilling.
Speaker 2: But I'm open to it.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm scared because I already know I already
Speaker 4: encouraged her.
Speaker 2: Everyone would be like, we'll be on the shame room now,
Speaker 2: right right right? I mean a Butterfly.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I totally encouraged me Ina to join Tender.
Speaker 2: We already have this conversation that we're gonna encourage you
Speaker 2: all the wrong.
Speaker 4: I swear Tinder, you need to pay me, like, like,
Speaker 4: as much as I talk about you, as much as I.
Speaker 2: Number one, I do want to try. No, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's different for you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And even me like I don't know, I don't I
Speaker 4: don't like using it in l a like I like
Speaker 4: to use it out of town just in case anybody,
Speaker 4: like even like my like brother's friend sees me. You
Speaker 4: know what, I feel weird about it, But I feel
Speaker 4: like dating has definitely helped push push it along, push
Speaker 4: it along of the process of healing from my past relationship.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I have to heal within myself and
Speaker 4: do what I have my own personal work, but it helps.
Speaker 2: I'm definite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm excited about like now that.
Speaker 2: You know, wonder like who I'm gonna end up?
Speaker 4: Okay, But I mean, so now you you told us,
Speaker 4: and you just told us that you know, you've dated
Speaker 4: a lot. You've You've dated a lot of men that
Speaker 4: had like other.
Speaker 2: Women or this and that.
Speaker 4: So you have to have you like thought and looked
Speaker 4: hard at yourself, because this is something that I've had
Speaker 4: to do too, And like why I'm attracted to the
Speaker 4: Why why do I attract this certain type of person?
Speaker 3: It's just that to me, Like when it comes to men,
Speaker 3: like the one of the if not the most important
Speaker 3: thing is like the chemistry and the passion, and like
Speaker 3: the attraction, I'm just attracted to the wrong guys.
Speaker 4: So you have to like you have to like reprogram
Speaker 4: what that attraction means to you.
Speaker 2: How do that?
Speaker 4: Well, it's hard, like I told, like I was telling
Speaker 4: you when I was on dating starting Tinder, like I
Speaker 4: tried to force myself to go on dates with guys
Speaker 4: I normally would say no to r and like I
Speaker 4: still struggle with it. Like I've been dating someone consistently lately,
Speaker 4: and you know, there's things about him that are so
Speaker 4: different than like the father my child or like the
Speaker 4: people that I've dated in the past, and like what
Speaker 4: I equate masculinity to is like aggression and that's not right.
Speaker 4: So like because he's not an aggressive person, sometimes I'd
Speaker 4: be like, oh, damn, right, do I like this? I
Speaker 4: don't know, but I'm like, why the fuck, yes, I
Speaker 4: do like this, like stop thinking that. This is like,
Speaker 4: this is what got you in the in trouble in
Speaker 4: the first place, you know what I mean? Like this
Speaker 4: man is has aggression and doesn't know how to communicate things.
Speaker 4: All he knows how is to communicate things through aggression,
Speaker 4: and that.
Speaker 2: That's why you will guff. That's why you're fucked up
Speaker 2: in the first place, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's hard. It's hard to like reprogram yourself. I'm
Speaker 4: still struggling with it, and I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to try. I'm used to like I like
Speaker 2: dark and mysterious men. I like the mystery. I like
Speaker 2: the troubled soul. I know. And it's like, I know,
Speaker 2: I know what the nice ones are just but I don't.
Speaker 4: But I've I mean, my nice guy he's freaky.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I always thought nice guys were incapable of that, which
Speaker 4: is totally fucked up. And that's not true.
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say nice guys just joking.
Speaker 2: Kind of. Yeah, No, it's it's true. Like when you
Speaker 2: start to do that, yeah, and you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't force chemistry, you can't force attraction, like even
Speaker 1: if it's a nice guy, you can't force it.
Speaker 2: No, But I mean you have to give it a chance.
Speaker 4: You have to give it a chance because you might
Speaker 4: not be initially it might not be like this explosion
Speaker 4: of attraction. Like it wasn't this explosion of attraction with
Speaker 4: the guy that I've been saying, But it was like
Speaker 4: a steady like as I got to know him more
Speaker 4: and more, the attraction grew and grew and almost that's
Speaker 4: almost like better. Yeah, you know, I've always dated men
Speaker 4: that like we have this intense passion like off the bat,
Speaker 4: and it ends then.
Speaker 2: It like fizzles out quickly. Yeah, you know. And I'm
Speaker 2: not to say that.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't have that can't exist either. You
Speaker 4: can't have this intense passion with the man and him
Speaker 4: be like the man of your dreams and be the
Speaker 4: perfect manner for you whatever. But I don't know, I'm
Speaker 4: trying to go a different route. I encourage anyone listening
Speaker 4: to like try to go a different route. You know,
Speaker 4: it's going to be uncomfortable. You might think he's a
Speaker 4: little corny at first, but you know, let him show
Speaker 4: you who he is, let him get in that situation
Speaker 4: where he can show you like, okay, you bout a
Speaker 4: baby a little bit, and not like not like you're
Speaker 4: gonna go to jail though, right right, you know that's
Speaker 4: not cut anymore.
Speaker 2: Story, I mean, did you think of any horries one?
Speaker 3: But so they have to be dating related, not necessarily
Speaker 3: dating related.
Speaker 2: I don't if you don't have one.
Speaker 4: If you don't have one one, okay, I have a
Speaker 4: recent one, please please. It's not like a horror like
Speaker 4: I wasn't being a whore. It's more of like literally
Speaker 4: a horror story. And only some people might not think
Speaker 4: this is a horror story, but to me, I was
Speaker 4: a little horrified. So me and the guy, this guy
Speaker 4: were you know, looking up, we're kissing, and like I
Speaker 4: had decided, I didn't Okay, low key, it's the guy
Speaker 4: from Nicaragua.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, just stop with the my I didn't
Speaker 5: put it out there, okay, did I from Nicaragua.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really feeling a nice guy, really great guy.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed his company, but I just the chemistry is
Speaker 4: not there, and I I've tried to let it build,
Speaker 4: like I've just said, and it just isn't there for
Speaker 4: me and I really realized that on.
Speaker 2: This trip, when I spent two consecutive.
Speaker 4: Days with him, and you know, I got drunk. We like,
Speaker 4: you know, made out a little bit and then you know,
Speaker 4: I wasn't I wasn't down. I wasn't down, but he
Speaker 4: but I like, again, I was testing myself and I
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really want to have sex. I'm sorry. And
Speaker 2: he was like why and I was like, I just don't.
Speaker 4: I just I'm not into it. And he was like, well,
Speaker 4: can I hump you?
Speaker 2: He's no way, you need to be clear, he said,
Speaker 2: can I hump? He was like, well, can I just
Speaker 2: hump you? She's laughing too, because it's hilarious. I feel
Speaker 2: terrible having this conversation in front of her child. Amina.
Speaker 4: She's as our last episode is about all the things
Speaker 4: that children pick up on when we don't think they
Speaker 4: know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: We meant under too. We met that it only counts
Speaker 2: under two years old. Just like Disneyland, they're free under two,
Speaker 2: we're free under two. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He asked if he could hunt me and I said okay,
Speaker 4: and then I was like, because.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what else to do.
Speaker 4: I know I failed at the Okay, I like semi
Speaker 4: accomplished my goal of like not doing but then I
Speaker 4: still compromised and like, okay.
Speaker 2: Well I guess that's not so good. Okay.
Speaker 4: And when I say hump, like not like hump with
Speaker 4: a penis out, like he was fully like clothed, like
Speaker 4: there was like he does underweirl on and he humped
Speaker 4: to me and I was like, well, what are you.
Speaker 2: Completely what's gonna happen? Like, I was like, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Like when you were you gonna come? And he was
Speaker 4: like in a mandawaar, like are you ten years old?
Speaker 2: No dog.
Speaker 1: For him, because you should never repeat that again. Just
Speaker 1: do it if you're gonna if you want to do it,
Speaker 1: just do it. But please please refrain from asking anyone
Speaker 1: else if you can hump them.
Speaker 2: And apparently I think it's a thing for him. He
Speaker 2: really it's not.
Speaker 4: It's not apparently like he told me he likes to hump,
Speaker 4: like he's.
Speaker 2: A humper like a dog. I don't know he likes
Speaker 2: to hump and he needs a humper. I don't Oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, I don't know. I didn't know that was
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 4: Still, I remember doing that in like, you know, middle school,
Speaker 4: early high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're scared to do anything else.
Speaker 1: It was like right before finger bak, you know it
Speaker 1: was it was like it was a grinding titty sucks
Speaker 1: finger bank slowly.
Speaker 2: Genital start coming out of the underwear. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it was so bad. Anyway, that's my horror story, the
Speaker 2: real one. But we have the weekend. Well does that
Speaker 2: conclude our today's episode?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think just as a recap. Love yourself. Oh, also,
Speaker 2: you could drop your kids off with us all the
Speaker 2: time Monday. You're a part of the village. Call us
Speaker 2: if you need some help.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, because we're mom's two and sometimes we have
Speaker 5: the kids and we can't do shit, So might as
Speaker 5: well rotate.
Speaker 2: Ye, might as well keep it in rotation. This one's
Speaker 2: blue to your hip. She might have a meltdown. No,
Speaker 2: but you know once she's normally fine.
Speaker 3: Does she still breastfeed? No, you stopped about it. I
Speaker 3: said her early at six months, which is still okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because some don't even do that. Yeah, how how
Speaker 2: long did Corey? Fourteen months? Yeah? Mel over here breast
Speaker 2: feed to Luna was four years old.
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Speaker 2: And make sure you check out Amina.
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Speaker 1: out her book The Other Woman and her album Mother.
Speaker 2: And I think we're going to fade out with a song.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, thank you do it again.
Speaker 4: She was a little soundtrack in the background. I know
Speaker 4: she was singing her little song. All right, Well, we
Speaker 4: will see you guys next week.
Speaker 2: Have a wonderful week.
Speaker 1: And call hi.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can take you. Show you house girls, tell
Speaker 2: you out, you say, somebody to feeling you don't. Everybody
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